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Speaker 1: We have a very very special guest for this episode,

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Speaker 1: none other than the great Laura Ingram. You know Laura

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Speaker 1: Ingram from The Ingram Angle on Fox News, always speaking

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Speaker 1: the truth, fearless, independent minded, which I deeply respect. I

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Speaker 1: love people like that. I love people like her. So

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you it's an honor to to have

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Speaker 1: her from TV. She previously was a nationally syndicated radio show,

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Speaker 1: The Laura Ingram Show. And also before her media days,

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Speaker 1: she worked as a speechwriter in the Reagan administration in

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Speaker 1: So she's lived an interesting life, obviously accomplished a great deal,

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Speaker 1: but I think most importantly, she's fearless and she's brave.

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Speaker 1: I originally wanted to have her on to talk about

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Speaker 1: life and to talk about some of that, you know,

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Speaker 1: into media and all those sorts of things. And then

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Speaker 1: got turned upside down and my plans got turned upside

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Speaker 1: down for the things I wanted to discuss. So now

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that the impact it has on

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Speaker 1: the country. We'll get into other things too, but you know,

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Speaker 1: primarily just sort of talk about the direction this nation

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Speaker 1: I know it's an honor for me. Big fan of

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Speaker 1: is Laura Ingram. So we've got a big show today,

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Speaker 1: a big week obviously, a lot happening in the country.

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Speaker 1: The great Laura Ingram is joining us. You know, Laura,

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Speaker 1: I originally wanted to talk about life because you're a

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Speaker 1: badass and I admire and respect you. But then the

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Speaker 1: but then the but then the you know I do,

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Speaker 1: but but then the FBI rated Trump. So you know,

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Speaker 1: now we're here, Laura, and it feels like the country

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Speaker 1: People think, oh, we're at the rubicon, it's a new frontier. Now.

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Speaker 1: This I think does so much to undermine what Americans

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Speaker 1: turn them into enemies. It doesn't exist to vanquish political opponents.

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Speaker 1: quote new Gingrich on the angerm angle um this week,

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Speaker 1: an exaggeration to say we're at the precipice now, because

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Speaker 1: we know already. LI said that these forces on the

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Speaker 1: And how is a nation survive in in the environment

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Speaker 1: say stopped. It's time to stop demonizing rich people and

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Speaker 1: It really does feel like this upcoming midterm election is

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Speaker 1: But is there anything else you'd like to leave us

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Speaker 1: If you if you're a believer, pray. I mean sometimes

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Speaker 1: when you really just someone. I always tell my kids

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Speaker 1: when someone fights with them or says something I said,

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Speaker 1: pray for them. It's easy to like the people who

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Speaker 1: are who are good to you, it's hard to pray

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Speaker 1: So I guess that's my staffie way to to close

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Speaker 1: out well, and that means we're praying for a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. It's a long list, Laura, so we got

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Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. Laura Ingram, it's an honor.

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Speaker 1: I really respect you, I respect your voice, and it's

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time. Congrats on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Can't wait to come back and come on

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Speaker 1: TV soon. Love it, Laura, thank you so much. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. We'll talk to you certinly, so bye bye.

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Speaker 1: What's that cool? I've always been a huge fan of

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Speaker 1: Laura ingram. I. I love people who are into, pendently minded,

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Speaker 1: who fight for what they believe, who are strong in

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