WEBVTT - Rachel "Metallic Flats" Zoe

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You've filthy horse, your husband's gone, and we've got books

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<v Speaker 1>and a bottle of wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir, it's Martini. Celebrity Book Club,

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<v Speaker 1>Read it while it's hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrity poop Club. Tell your secrets.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't talk celebrity books.

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<v Speaker 3>No boys are a loud celebrity book say it loud

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<v Speaker 3>and cloud Celebrity book Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Buzz me in. I brought the queer voe. Hi boss friend,

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<v Speaker 2>what's upstairs?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up your fucking bitch?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? And not much but everything. I'm like, so busy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so busy. Looks so fucking glamorous today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I'm just trying to keep it low key

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<v Speaker 1>but high key for the office and be appropriate but sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how you're pairing a vintage prep Pulo Ralph

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<v Speaker 2>Lauren double RL country belt with a little kind of

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<v Speaker 2>totally like cool chain with Island cheapies and like a

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<v Speaker 2>glam acoust top.

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<v Speaker 1>That's ti.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's high Hello, but what's up with you? I'm exhausted,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so busy. I was out of so many events

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<v Speaker 2>last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually felt so spoiler alert Rachel, so coming to

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<v Speaker 1>our place of work today because I drove your butted

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<v Speaker 1>has on to fit here from the traffic was absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>in soon and it was just like the Midtown Tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>is most insane contraption ever engineered.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, sorry, bebe before it gets like warm. Yeah, good

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<v Speaker 2>conversation always goes best over chilled bubbling.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's an amazing because it's the tiniest bottle of

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<v Speaker 1>MOI amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I just like actually had them left over

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<v Speaker 2>from an event.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, were you doing an event at home? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing an event at your workspace? Which is actually the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing an event workspace, And it's always good

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<v Speaker 2>to have if you're having ten people over order for fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course, yeah, I had ton of these really

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<v Speaker 2>cute and Mowa mini bottles to give out his gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>Mini bottles are so fun because you're so generous because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody gets their own individual.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe you're not fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's nothing worse than girls fighting over a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of champagne.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just a little accents that make you feel

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<v Speaker 2>welcome at an event.

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<v Speaker 1>So just what did that rent you? What is a

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<v Speaker 1>mini bottle of moeut run?

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<v Speaker 2>To be perfectly honest, I did buy this in mentim

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<v Speaker 2>for recording when you said you were late. This is

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<v Speaker 2>twenty for one bottle twenty for a while, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what's the big bottle and he was

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<v Speaker 2>like seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like like, that's fucking random.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fucking random. But I was also like, these mini

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<v Speaker 2>balls are so shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing, because it's like, by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of a bottle of champagne, it's not fizzy anymore. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, what's the point, literally, what's the point?

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<v Speaker 1>So just get mini's?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask our engineer, would you like a little splash?

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<v Speaker 2>I felt so, But he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is getting naughty, all right, ladies, wow, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect amount for three people, one bottle, three girls,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll open another one in like okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>cheer cheers to Midtown to Midtown.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the bubbles are that's not bad, not bad at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Moe does a great classic classic standard. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets the job done. It's light, it's got those citrus

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<v Speaker 1>notes on the back, it's a little bit of rosemary so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much champagne, this headache, and a bottle I find.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, babe, let's just get fucking into it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't how much time I have, so many evens tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>This is hell week for me and I need all

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<v Speaker 1>hands on deck. Who are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously obviously we've already said her name we were talking about, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I just found it today or co worker at my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a podcast which I'm sure you haven't heard.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the inventor of a decade to call the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>She literally invented metallic flats, hobo bags, oversized sunglasses, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Store kits, and Misha Barton paraceltics.

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Garner, Sol mahay X, Lindsey fucking low Hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably one of the most prominent, not the most, like

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<v Speaker 1>prominent stylist. I would say, like, of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>You think stylists, you think it's so funny if you

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<v Speaker 2>went to Miriam dash, Webster, Dot fucking Calm and after

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<v Speaker 2>you were looking up the word dishy where you found

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<v Speaker 2>the definition is us and you headed over to stylist.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm sure there would be a sentence also pulled

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<v Speaker 1>in The New York Times about how Rachel Zoe is

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<v Speaker 1>a stylist is the Stars, Yeah, of course we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about none other than.

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel Zoe and Harbuck Style.

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<v Speaker 1>The Art of Fashion, Beauty and Everything Glamour by Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>Zoe with Rose Appadocca.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge blurb on the front from none other than Nina

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<v Speaker 2>Garcia of l and Project Frontway.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mine doesn't have a blurbarde Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it says a great god for personal style, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you Nina.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mine has stuff on the back. Oh has that

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<v Speaker 1>thing from Nina. And it also has a quote from

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<v Speaker 1>Live Tyler. I think it's important to allow yourself this

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<v Speaker 1>lift tire us. It's more baby. I think it's important, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it is a little baby like. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>Paige rox Manning is coming to Umpire Records tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good. It's pillowy, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like and Rachel's so good at that. She helps

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<v Speaker 1>bring out your inner style by guiding you through looks

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<v Speaker 1>that drop from the classics but are also so modern

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<v Speaker 1>in every way. She's taught me so much about the

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<v Speaker 1>power of accessories too. I always have so much homeworker there.

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<v Speaker 1>And if there's one thing that she knows, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>power of accessories.

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<v Speaker 2>First off, in this book, it blew my mind. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>some people say start dressing from the shoes. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>say start dressing from you know, the dress, or you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually start with pants, but sometimes I'm turning with

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<v Speaker 1>like a pants shoe combo. And then of course everything

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<v Speaker 1>changes six times and.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and then it's tops everywhere, And honestly, I usually

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<v Speaker 2>start from the top.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Rachel Zoe says start from accessories.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she's an insane accessories sound all right, should we

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<v Speaker 1>do an accessories check because people kind of dressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Up for us, like kind of the whole outfit and accessories.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, and you know, if we're talking about the way,

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<v Speaker 2>she also says like men should success arise. It's always

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<v Speaker 2>like simple and strong and rugged and like shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>too glam.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also like she's so aware where like a

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<v Speaker 1>silver because she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I love when my six rings and they're so

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<v Speaker 2>cheesy and she's like, I love my husband. No husband,

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<v Speaker 2>Roger wears like a cardier like ring that has like

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<v Speaker 2>skull bones and like guns on it, and you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is so la and like cheesy. Okay. I am

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<v Speaker 2>wearing my standard silver Figato chains silver necklace. I am

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<v Speaker 2>wearing also a Figaro silver bracelet. I am wearing my

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<v Speaker 2>classic grandfather's watch that is Diego Latour that is the

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<v Speaker 2>original sixties memo Vox with kind of a black and

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<v Speaker 2>gold band. I love classic piece of classic pieces with

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<v Speaker 2>rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about vintage, look for stains and look for

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<v Speaker 1>good materials.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I threw in this ring that actually my

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend's mother gave me.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like a massive black. This is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Massive black that's what was in their family. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>always been afraid of rings, but I was like access rights.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a massive black golden onyx ring with like a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of looking Julius Caesar figures etched in. If you

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<v Speaker 2>can take it off here too, it's a big leg

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<v Speaker 2>right on hunking this kind of car.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in gray into the stone. Is this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Roman profile figure. Huh. It's a little beat up, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's so beautiful, so vintage. It tells us story.

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<v Speaker 2>When I go to Decade's my favorite vintage store. In Melrose.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole book is about the store decades, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing this super breezy because it's kind of humid.

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<v Speaker 2>This beautiful Italian nitpolo I'm wearing, and then just basic

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<v Speaker 2>block jeans and then vintage paraboots.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting you wore jeans. And we'll get to the

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<v Speaker 1>forty pages on Dunhim and her incredibly schizophrenic opinions about

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of Dunhim and the world of Dunham. I

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<v Speaker 1>went completely insane today.

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<v Speaker 2>All you look insane, but also like but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like almost kind of works in this way where because

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be insane, but like just insane enough

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<v Speaker 1>that like maybe you're like, okay, actually maybe you can

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<v Speaker 1>just rock that outfit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm wearing my John Fluvog Lug Souls, which I

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<v Speaker 1>keep thinking of my labooks because they just are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of labuoki. They're just like a heavy brick pattern, wide

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<v Speaker 1>like ag house jeans, braided brown leather belt. Yeah. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>mixing brown and black shoes and belt. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the rules throw them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Cropped ex house tea silver chain that I got in Barcelona,

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<v Speaker 1>dead stock, Carl Lagerfeld massive watch with a blue ceramic face.

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<v Speaker 2>That took me back to you because I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>like you were trying to be so rigels though in

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<v Speaker 2>high school, because you were like, boh, yeah, you in

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<v Speaker 2>this big, like flashy Carl liverpoold watch is taking me back,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a gift from friend of the pod Arabella, because

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<v Speaker 1>she used to design for Carl's like airport line. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously when it's hit dead sec, I mean, like the

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<v Speaker 1>watch is dead and it's not telling time, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>This like really two thousand and nine hue of like metal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of gun metal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of dark gun metal. And then it has

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<v Speaker 1>this like cobalt face. And then I'm wearing my like

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<v Speaker 1>see through glasses like Bedford Bedford half a new glasses

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm also wearing Vermont knit hat, then a long

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<v Speaker 1>scar and then my Diesel hoodie. It's just about showing

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<v Speaker 1>as many layers and objects as possible. Oh and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wearing pukashells and two gold necklaces.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she says, right with puka shells, I love

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<v Speaker 2>island chepies. Yeah, she was like, Okay, here's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>about traveling and I love going to St. Barts and

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<v Speaker 2>she's always been like a don Over pipe but underpack

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<v Speaker 2>and like brigle. But all I'm wearing is a Cardia bracelet,

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<v Speaker 2>a Rolex my engagement and wedding rings. Of course I die.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's so crazy that they got divorced, like last month.

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<v Speaker 2>I know this episode's be so hot.

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<v Speaker 1>How did she know that we were about to read

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<v Speaker 1>her book from like fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really so insane because it's like she's just not

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<v Speaker 2>been in the news at all, and then it's just

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel and Roger divorce have for thirty three years.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's so seasoned she's getting divorced. We're reading

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<v Speaker 1>her book like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>We're realizing she's our coworker. Like you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I watched you know, we all remember the Zo Project,

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<v Speaker 2>which is now streaming. You can watch it on Peacock.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I was watching an Amazon like pain per episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Saba, if you're money for vintage.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, reality TV in the early two thousands was

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<v Speaker 1>so fucking good and it will never be that good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was discussing this my lever why is so good?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like we could just watch Zoe and

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<v Speaker 2>there was drama, but it's not just real. It's real.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I wouldn't say some all the dramas so.

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<v Speaker 1>Produced, but it's I'm saying the people who are on

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<v Speaker 1>the show did not grow up watching reality television, so

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't like become these weird archetypal characters in their

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<v Speaker 1>head where it's like when you watch The Bachelor. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all these girls grew up watching The Bachelor, like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Real they grew up literally at this point, watching their

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<v Speaker 2>grandmother's like be on the Bachelor, and it's like they're

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<v Speaker 2>not all fighting in the same way, you know, of

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<v Speaker 2>like I mean we talked about this all the time

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<v Speaker 2>of like obviously it's always you know, first season Top Model,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just raw and like it is a little

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<v Speaker 2>more meditative to just like watch Zoe be like babe,

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<v Speaker 2>I want a new couch. Yeah, not just constant We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to a big empty restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the way and the way that's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just a constant like interior shots and like just drone

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<v Speaker 1>shots of kitchens and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like couches and huge eyelands. I'm like, hey, I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to you about something. But it did start.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to you about something.

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<v Speaker 1>It did invent I want to talk to you about something.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, curR and Roger kind of have this like beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like chill tense but like sexy relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Her gay husband seems really supportive, and he's this just

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of sea crusty but like with long hair,

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<v Speaker 1>very almost Ryan Cabrera.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very Cabrera. And he's being so like waffle

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<v Speaker 2>knit ed, hardy rocker tea over flare jeans chains.

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<v Speaker 1>The episode I was watching, like episode two, and like

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<v Speaker 1>she's talking about patting these dresses so Deborah Messing can

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<v Speaker 1>try them on for the side.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole book is about Deborah Messing.

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah Messin's her masterpiece. Yeah, but she's like, we need

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<v Speaker 1>the hero address and they're in her kitchen and he's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, what do you mean it's a hero? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is it a hero? And then she goes, don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>don't mock what I don't and he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, babe, you know, I support you. But then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>cut to them like at like Shotateau and like she's

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<v Speaker 2>so also like it was the air of inventing Starbucks,

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<v Speaker 2>massive venting, always her like tiny tiny hands wrapped around

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<v Speaker 2>Halloween style of venting. And she's like, I'm just scared

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<v Speaker 2>of like debuting my like line of like cheap sunglasses

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<v Speaker 2>with my name on it. And he's like, here's the thing, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sortive.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is like he is roasting her, being like

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean, hero, What do I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think went wrong? After thirty three years and three beautiful children?

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<v Speaker 2>This is my theory And I wrote this not at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of my notes that I was like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a certain type of popular girl in college that like

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<v Speaker 2>with her like cool boyfriend that everyone does love who

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit gay.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, the tea that was just absolutely spilt in this office.

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<v Speaker 2>And she is that girl. And everyone is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we actually love Roger more than Rachel, you know, y, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>She actually she really found a good one because she can.

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<v Speaker 2>Be Fulca's usually I hate him, I hate him, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's one who's like, no, I love him, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's honestly, she did so well in her career. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'll say this, she wasn't like focused on looking

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<v Speaker 2>for dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's really true.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think she could focus on hero dresses. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because just like he was there and like being her rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because let's just say it. She's not just successful

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<v Speaker 1>in the way we think of success today where it

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like, oh, she has money, she has she

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<v Speaker 1>has not already she invented a whole era of celebrities.

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<v Speaker 1>She was really good at what she did, and she

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<v Speaker 1>understood that, like these girls she was creating their red

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<v Speaker 1>carpet looks like had to be subtle and on point,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was this whole like economy that was not

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<v Speaker 1>very populous, Like there was no social media, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was all like the fashion place.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fashion Police, right or online yeah, this weekly.

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<v Speaker 1>And like it was more hierarchical and more top down,

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<v Speaker 1>so like there was less room for air. And she

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<v Speaker 1>took people who were basic and had no like Deborah

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<v Speaker 1>Messy and Jennifer Garner are two of my favorite people

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. But they're not like so basic, they're

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<v Speaker 1>insanely basic. They're not like people. She took them and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, I'm going to subtly make them incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>consistently glamorous and like give them literally a twenty year career.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the way they look at a series of

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<v Speaker 1>events over the course of five years in the early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, like she did that. She did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because imagine, look what Deborah is doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just like in the idef she said, yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 1>literally and she looks me and those fatigues.

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<v Speaker 2>No baggy fatigues. Little change, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Garner has still even though like Garner kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been in anything good since Alias and is only

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<v Speaker 1>in weird Christian movies that like no one sees.

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<v Speaker 2>Right that been like The Dog Flew Over the Moon, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Still thought of as like an A list like star

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<v Speaker 1>who's just like totally, like absolutely has prestige.

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<v Speaker 2>And she talks about styling Jennifer for the Alias premieres,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like something because it's like she's literally in

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<v Speaker 2>so many costumes Alias. But then when she is so

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<v Speaker 2>jeans and basic and Christian like out of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like Zo made her glam and when she wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>also doing the Dubras, she was making like Lindsay lohand

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<v Speaker 2>be even more Lindsay Lohan than Lindsay Lohan was, and

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<v Speaker 2>was like, we're making her look like Norma Jean, We're

0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.800
<v Speaker 2>doing old school Maryland, Marylyn, and.

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<v Speaker 1>She did fucking know Cole Richie. She did all the

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<v Speaker 1>thing girls who were just like bow hold out.

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<v Speaker 2>The who yeah, boho bags, metallic jewelry, she created ten

0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.840
<v Speaker 2>dollars dress Jimmy two heels. No one else was saying

0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.760
<v Speaker 2>H and M dress Chanel.

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<v Speaker 1>Belts before that drink every time in this book that

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<v Speaker 1>H and M is mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>This book is about H and M.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a high low kind of thing. Because H

0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and M was so ubiquitous in two thousand and two.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god when it dropped and we would go,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean remember we read aw how we were in

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<v Speaker 2>downtown Box every much every weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I was never not there. And I remember because I

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<v Speaker 1>discovered H and M in Sweden.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually probably came back when you came OUs bisexual and

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, Lily, I'm bisexual and you need to meet

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<v Speaker 2>me at the store inchin them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they opened an H and M in Boston

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<v Speaker 1>like later that year. After I gone on my youth

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<v Speaker 1>like youth exchange trip to Stockholm christ Missionary trip when

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<v Speaker 1>I was fourteen, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, okay, so I love also have this book. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it starts in this very chan stick in some way,

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<v Speaker 2>just like I was a girl who collected magazines.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she loved fashion. She was on the floor, so

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<v Speaker 1>I came right out of my mother's room and into

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<v Speaker 1>her closet. I swear her closet is my earliest memory

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<v Speaker 1>as a young girl. I thought she epitomized glammer. Everything

0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.440
<v Speaker 1>about her was and still is beautiful. Her hair, her jewelry,

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.679
<v Speaker 1>her shoes. My sister and I would rifle through her

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<v Speaker 1>things all the time. So my fondest memory to the

0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:23.560
<v Speaker 1>three of us, sprawled out on our bed, we'd spread

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<v Speaker 1>out her boxes the kind you find it the hardware

0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of organized nails, but are perfect for the endless

0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.480
<v Speaker 1>inventory of jewelry she collected. She's got this big, like

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<v Speaker 1>orange plastic box. I'm guessing parents sound really chic.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she has photos of her mom and like they're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty fab.

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<v Speaker 1>And she like saves up to go to the West

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<v Speaker 1>Village and buy a two hundred dollars vintage coat in

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<v Speaker 1>like nineteen seventy one or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>The school trip, and everyone else is buying like postcards,

0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.240
<v Speaker 2>and she literally like heads the West.

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<v Speaker 1>Fell and she starts like learning about Halston at age

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen and is like wearing headbands and being like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a glamor girl. I celebrate American designer.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I was like, you're literally so me going to

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<v Speaker 2>the Gianni Versace store in downtown Boston at age eleven, being.

0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Just like, that's so crazy, literally such a fashion hound.

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<v Speaker 2>One of her biggest tips it's for stylists but also

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.040
<v Speaker 2>all people in this book, which I think is so true,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in our online world. I mean, this is so

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<v Speaker 2>pre online is like, get to know your boutiques and like,

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<v Speaker 2>get to know the big stores like shop is research,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's literally fine, like go shopping. You don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to buy anything, go and try a bunch of stuff on. Yeah,

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.919
<v Speaker 2>get to know your salespeople. They'll let you know when

0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:39.119
<v Speaker 2>sales are coming. And she was like, now, even in

0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Santa Fe, there's amazing local boutiques.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I do feel that way, and in times in

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<v Speaker 1>my life when I've been more regular customers at certain boutiques,

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel a certain sense of knowledge that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting that I wouldn't get elsewhere. Yeah, I'm also feeling

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<v Speaker 1>a certain sense of spending money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it's a sense of being rich. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course I think it's like if you have the money

0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.080
<v Speaker 2>to spend. That gives you the power to go in

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<v Speaker 2>and not spend. Sorry, I just shook.

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<v Speaker 1>Myself for race see and the bombs you're dropping today.

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<v Speaker 1>The power to spend is the power and not spend.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so true because when you don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of money.

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<v Speaker 2>To go in and be like, oh, thank you so much, No, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even try it all.

0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.879
<v Speaker 1>It's the rat race and you feel like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>go in because you can't buy, and then if you

0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:30.920
<v Speaker 1>do go in, you're like, well, I have to buy.

0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.320
<v Speaker 1>And the real power is knowing that you aren't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>buy because you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm just being like I just want to see

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<v Speaker 2>how it fit and I'll think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then you're not like insecure about them, worrying

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<v Speaker 1>that you're poor, and just like being a teen who's

0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:49.320
<v Speaker 1>in here for shits and kicks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you think this is funny?

0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh, you're gonna make me run around because like

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<v Speaker 1>you know that they know that you could come back

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<v Speaker 1>at any time and up Chase Sapphire preferred like it's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's business.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the prefer that lets you into the lounge, but

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<v Speaker 2>preferred nonetheless so right, she loves Holston's her first love,

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 2>which is like so fab then Valentino. So I also

0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.880
<v Speaker 2>had no idea. Before she became Rituals of Stylist the Stars,

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<v Speaker 2>she was the fashion editor and one of my favorite magazines,

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<v Speaker 2>Why am.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and Wyam is one of those like smaller sized magazines.

0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.640
<v Speaker 2>It used to be big and then it went small

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.359
<v Speaker 2>and then it just went over. Yeah, my sister and

0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.159
<v Speaker 2>I would buy like seventeen wym. It was like the

0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 2>classic like teen magazine that had the embarrassing stories about

0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 2>like getting your period on a guy and then quizzes

0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.040
<v Speaker 2>and like an article and then like fashion spreads that

0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.679
<v Speaker 2>were so like Cosmo for teens because yeah, and it

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 2>was like sex advice and like how to put in

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 2>a tampon, Like everything was just like I have seven

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 2>tampons in me at once.

0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I loved teen Vogue, which I subscribed to for a

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 1>while as an actual teen, and that was small. That

0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:04.239
<v Speaker 1>was small, and like tvag was cool because it was

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:07.879
<v Speaker 1>very like the magazine Jennifer Garner comes up with at

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the end of thirteen going up three, like it was

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:13.960
<v Speaker 1>always it was more positive and like collages of like

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 1>interiors like there was just like a lot of like

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>overall design inspiration in that magazine, and I didn't feel

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.399
<v Speaker 1>like it was too prescriptive. It didn't feel too like

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:24.640
<v Speaker 1>girl like, oh, I'm not allowed to read this because

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm a boy. And it wasn't so period stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Also as like maybe she left y m teen. Vogue

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<v Speaker 2>came about when we were like fifteen, sixteen and more

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<v Speaker 2>was like you are teen, you have power to like

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<v Speaker 2>shop them thrill.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were doing like actual editorials, like actual fashion spreads,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think Wyam was really doing that, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know when I was like fashion es. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>very like this girls wearing maybe like a roxy tank

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<v Speaker 2>candy sneakers, like a denim shrug. We should look up

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<v Speaker 2>what her spread shrug. She's always just like how glamorous

0:22:58.359 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 2>does Deborah Messing?

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Look at this her shrug and you know what she does.

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<v Speaker 1>So then she starts working at Halston. She gets like

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<v Speaker 1>a job like archiving in Halston, which is such a

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<v Speaker 1>dream for her literal dream, and she kind of works

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<v Speaker 1>your way U very quickly. It's one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where like when you're getting into an industry in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies and eighties, nineties, like I'll say it, if you

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<v Speaker 1>are like interested in something, you can kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>hop in. Like there isn't so much competition because it's

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<v Speaker 1>pre Internet and you're not like competing against a thousand interns,

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<v Speaker 1>and like if you actually care and you're hungry, like

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be wanted and you'll be Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you pound on the door in this

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 2>very like kind of eighties way and like write your

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<v Speaker 2>big letter on scented paper and legally blonde, Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 2>did you get your CNN internship?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? It's funny. Actually I had a teacher at

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<v Speaker 1>NYU who had worked at CNN, and he like taught

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>this class on the news media, and like he encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>me to apply for the internship. I think like wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a letter or whatever, and like I got it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure how competitive it was, but that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm thinking about the competition where it was like

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<v Speaker 2>when I applied to my Springer internship.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it because I did go to NYU,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, I think part of what you're paying for

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and by you, I mean my parents is like the

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<v Speaker 1>internship office, because it's like then I got the CBS

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>News internship, I got the w it's made for Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>So they just kind of were like, here are the

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<v Speaker 1>internships you could apply for, and then you apply for

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 1>it and you got it. But obviously it's like enormously talented,

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and you're enormously talented and was built for news. I

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<v Speaker 1>also lied on.

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<v Speaker 2>My internship application period two Springer and said I had

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<v Speaker 2>interned for a close friend's father.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I led in my internship to n YU.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys, I lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that I was treasurer of the art club,

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>but like I was treasurer of my own art club,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I was shopping, Yeah, Celebrity book Club.

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so she's archiving for Halston.

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Like wait, I always love the popping cork on a

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>bottle of champagne. In that very instant, the loud seems

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 1>to signal a crazy burst of excitement, conjuring all kinds

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 1>of thrills, Stepping out your front door with the biggest

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 1>smile and highest heels, hanging out with your favorite people

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.199
<v Speaker 1>and laughing until it hurts, jetting away from home to

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>an even more thrilling place, living it up because you're

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>truly alive. There's an intrinsic change to those three very

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>simple words, living it up. It's about being happy, positive, alive.

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>There's something so h can the brevity of the phrase,

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<v Speaker 1>as if it were a synonym for style itself. On

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.199
<v Speaker 1>those nights when we live it up, we feel our

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<v Speaker 1>most glamorous, are most confident.

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean eryod literally period.

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<v Speaker 1>This book to me is a little bit like if

0:25:56.160 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Lauren Conrad like was educated. Yes, because Lauren Conrade's book

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>is almost written by like an alien. This book is

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>lives inside a Walmart and like Rachel so like is smart,

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>but like she is, like it's this basic manifesto and

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.679
<v Speaker 1>she's just like this is what girls want. Ladies like

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>we watch sex in the city, we want heels.

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 2>We're glamorous. Like. It's also very this response to like

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.639
<v Speaker 2>this nineties like, oh so we're all in casual trainers

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 2>now No, Like I would say one of the biggest

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 2>thesis I took away from this is just be glamorous

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and like always, no matter the occasion. And she goes

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>through many occasions, but it's like show respect to the

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 2>event and person you are seeing by dressing fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with that. There's also a theory that

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just perklating right now. I think we've heard somewhere

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>else too, though, But like, if you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties as being a time of like really intense casualness

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 1>and the evolution of style. Yeah, so you have like

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>there's that pood. Do you want to go jet off

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>somewhere with your best friends and left till it hurts?

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Yea? And I want a pack, I don't know, something

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 2>for single girlfriends, tons of cool frocks, short heels.

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>So I think the nineties were this time of like

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<v Speaker 1>basically we reached the peak of casualness in the course

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>of fashion history. So on the one hand, it's like

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>people were just being comfortable going out in yoga pants

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>and like exercise where which hadn't really happened, I mean

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of happened like in the eighties. Yeah, and then

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 1>like you had like grunge and then like American sports

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>wearing Tommy Hill figure and like the urban revolution and

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>logos and so like casualness was becoming like more of

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like a thing that like people could do as like

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 1>an intentional look, as an outfit. But as the new

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>millennium rolls around, there becomes this reaction and I think

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>if you look in fashion history, and have heard this

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>before that every turn of the century fashion gets a

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>little more conservative again and empire wastes come back.

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like almost like this reset, people like, oh, we're

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>going back in time, like we need to like be

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>like Edwardian again. And so I I think there's a

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit of that and her being this creature of

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the two thousands, there's a slight reaction against the casualness

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of the nineties.

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Also not even casual, but I would say the high

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 2>prep of it all right, because if we're looking at

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 2>like just like the casual office and like the gapness

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>of everything of being like I'm in like khakis. M

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:23.479
<v Speaker 2>Obviously there was a lot of people who weren't being

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 2>khakis in the nineties, but it's like khakis were around

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 2>and big, and then it's like two thousands is like

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 2>we're actually rockers, but rockers not in a grungeway rock gun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's getting more form fitting. Well, this actually is interesting

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>because it gets back into the history of pants, which

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I looked into for that article I wrote a year

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>ago for Mister Porter. But like how the mail leg

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and showing the male leg became more common as we

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:56.479
<v Speaker 1>moved away from the Renaissance era, and like it became

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>about like men showing their masculinity and different through the

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>leg and differentiating themselves from the boys. And there's scrawny

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>little chicken legs and big.

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Shorts and it's like, right now, we're in this insane

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 2>pants revolution that's rejecting Rachel's Doe's era.

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>And yet it's ironically embracing rachel' z Tho's era. I

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>know point now where every size of pant can be rocked.

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't think super skinny, even though so many

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>people are doing it. Still.

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I think like men who are would be qualified as

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>fashionable in today's modern times are not doing super skinny,

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>but they are doing somewhat skinny. There's a skinny slim.

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 2>She loves stove pipe harres.

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>To jetting off with your goal to jetting off.

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>When she says something so funny in this book where

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>she's like we all have like our problem areas and

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 2>like places in our body we hate, she goes even

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 2>supermodel and then she goes, don't roll your eyes, which

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I was obsessed with. Yeah, she was like, don't roll

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 2>your eyes. That like super you know, Nicole Richie may

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>hate her arms.

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, she also calls herself curvy though.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's the which is the most shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I was thinking how the word curvy has evolved,

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>because now curvy means like the plus size market. Yeah,

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's been something that like I've been at the

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>forefront of, like someone who is like branded plus size

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>women's clothing companies where it's like we say the curve

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>market now, but it's like curvy. Why does curvy mean big?

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Because I could draw a line on this piece of paper. Okay,

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a curve. That's not big, that's thin.

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Because it's meaning right hips, but you can have a

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 2>pretty snatched waist in a huge ass.

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Like am I people, I am actually curvy, literally thin

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>and curvy, because you do have hips. I have hips.

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like literally thinn and curvy, So what about me?

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 2>No, And honestly, I would say, like I'm sturdy, not curvy.

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I think, like I don't think. I mean, yeah, when

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 2>I had like big old titties, like maybe that was curvy.

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>And I wouldn't say you have an hour glass figure? No,

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and I don't.

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I wouldn't say I have like such a don't.

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Drop like you qualify as the curve market.

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Right like I probably would when I'm shopping for basics.

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 2>This is such an amazing quote. If you show up

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>looking a bit more glad than the rest, what's the

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>worst case scenario? You look the best in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I kind of take issue with this, though.

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about this because I feel like

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>it's something that I.

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Think there's something so embarrassing when you arrive, when you're

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>super dressed up at everyone's so casual in a fucking

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>heather hoodie.

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Well she says, you have an ow you can say,

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm going somewhere else after this. And that happened to

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 2>me once when I was going to an engagement party

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>and I went to just like an airbrush event at

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Singers before and everyone was like, oh my god, you

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 2>look amazing, Like why are you in a blazer?

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>But you were going I literally was.

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>And I got to just go to everyone I've been

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>after this. This is a reading. Consider the time, and

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 2>at Sunday at four pm, chances are it's not a

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>black taieth ad. If it's a Saturday night weddings after

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>six pm, it most certainly calls for a formal looks

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>a weekend brunch or an afternoon tea, celebrating a birthday

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 2>or baby shower, calls for a little dress, stay away

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>from satin or other shiny fabrics per day, and resist black.

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I love black, but during the day, go with some color.

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 2>If prefer darker shades, then try navy or brown or

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>deep jewel tone, but generally I prefer white, creams or even.

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Pastels jewel tone.

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And then she's like, jeans are fine, but skip the

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 2>scruffy T shirt for a halter or a puncho. If

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a pool party, do not forget to cover up,

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 2>be it a calftan or oversized scarf. No one really

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 2>wants to see her bare booty, regardless how fabulous it is.

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 2>While they're digging into their dinner. She kind of is

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.239
<v Speaker 2>always like, don't show cleavage, but like, don't show too

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>much leg.

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>And this comes back to this sort of turn of

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>the century like conservatism reaction area that I'm talking about.

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>But I do think that maybe like that is changing now.

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>We're almost like wearing a button down with jeans versus

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>wearing a ratty T shirt with jeans. The ratty T

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>shirt actually looks cooler. Yeah, because the button down with jeans,

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>like there's something that's trying so hard. Where's a button

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.719
<v Speaker 1>down with dress pants? Is like, oh, you're so confident

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>to wear this, to wear this.

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, because something about the button down with jeans is

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>a little bit like o gray, like here's a meeting.

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>What's interesting is they almost do think that fashion has

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 1>become more costume me in the past fifteen years, and

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>like everyone is basically kind of in a costume now.

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 2>But couldn't you see that in the seventies.

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Well no, because the seventies literally was the seventies. But

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, but now people are dressing like they're in

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a seventies I was. You go to Dimes Square of Silver, like,

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and everyone looks like they're in Fleetwood Mac and they're

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>wearing like the tightest little T shirt and my pants.

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Ya.

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:43.479
<v Speaker 2>No. I saw a girl the other day in an

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>event and she was dressed like full almost famous, and

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that I found actually like sad and embarrassing. Where I

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, you could have nodded to the seventies. You

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 2>could have done like flares and a top, but like

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the full patches of flowers on the hat.

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, You're like, what about this metallic.

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Flats, metallic plots, hobo bag with fringe, like be a

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>little bit rocker. I think it's like to the over

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 2>dressing point is like, it's more just like dressed to

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 2>have fun, and I think people will see that if

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 2>you're having fun, they'll have fun.

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Broach the subject. You have no idea how many times

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>in my line of work a broach has saved the day.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Nicole Richie and I were in Las Vegas for an event,

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<v Speaker 1>just time that events are referred to as an event.

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Which is by the way, listening to her podcast today,

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 2>she literally said she grew tired of events, which is

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 2>so crazy because this whole book is about her going

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>to events.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine ever going to kind of events, and

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>if I do, take me out back, shoot me. Nicole

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>rich and I were in Las Vegas for an event,

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>already on her way to the party when she realized

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the dress she was wearing was too constricting to dance in.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 1>This dawned on her as we were walking through the

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>forum shops at Caesar's.

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>That lied screamed, just a forum shops.

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>It's dawned on her when we were in the forum

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>shops at.

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Caesar's walking through being like, you know, oh my.

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 1>God, this dress, it's too constricted. She's like carrying the

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>wedding dress. Get it off, Get it off.

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>So maybe she was walking through the shops being like

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I can hardly even walk through the Forum shops because

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about walking through Caesar's.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they go to the shops of the Caesars.

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>We walked right into Gucci and found a dress we liked,

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>a coral colored, pleading, cocky dress. There was only one,

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>and it was a size ten. Luckily there was a

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 1>decorative brooch on the front of the dress. I took

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the brooch off the front, cinched half the dress back,

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and pinned it. Just like that. The size ten fit

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>her small frame perfectly. That's genius.

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 2>It's so genius, and I love how Also, like, this

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 2>book is way more about like how to fit thin

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 2>girls into bigger clothes, Yeah, not like how to be

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 2>a bigger girl like rock clothes.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you're not going to put a size

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>ten girl in his size two zero with a magical brooch.

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>That working the other way around.

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:08.800
<v Speaker 2>My sister wrode with a magical brooch.

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into the travel section. This section is It's Crazy.

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 2>By the way, just before we start off, Harvey Weinstein

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 2>is heavily featured in this book, and she talks about

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 2>how like she was on a three day business trip,

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>like styling.

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Everywhere.

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 2>She's like styling Deborah Messing or Nicole Ritchie or something

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>like that. And then she's like, and then a powerful

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 2>player asked me to go to con and then it's

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 2>like so many photos of her and Harvey, So I

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna go ahead and be Harvey.

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he wasn't really.

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I think he knew like he needed her to style

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>his girls, but she didn't need him. No, so it

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't didn't make sense.

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he couldn't give her anything. I mean they wanted

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to work with Rachel. Everyone wanted to work with Rachel.

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Packing my clients for a trip, but Truman and fit

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>much of what we need to glam them up for

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a prece event way in advance. But even then a

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>backup look or twenty might be thrown into the last minute,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.320
<v Speaker 1>particularly extra heels and bags. The entire level is carefully

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.240
<v Speaker 1>wrapped in stuff with tissue paper and ship by FedEx

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 1>to a destination. Well almost the entire lot when there's

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>a little room for backup. My sisters or I might

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>hand carry a gown on board. Take note if you

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 1>can't risk it because it's an valuary, I really love it.

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't leave it to chance or bag of handlers who

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>could potentially send it on a fourteen hour flight to Pretoria.

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Take it with you as a carry on. Of course,

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 1>if it's a six seater plane going to a photo

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>shoot and a Caribbean island, the pilot himself might deny

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>my bringing a gown, no matter how hibulous it is

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>into the tiny cabin. In those cases, you have to

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>hope for the best and pray that it arriots on

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the cargo flight.

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm obsessed with the part where it's just like

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 2>in the bag, like different types of like way to

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>pack for like different types of trips, single girlfriends, sexy dresses,

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 2>high heels, and lots of Juliet for a riot of

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>a time, family, more comfortable outfits and not as many

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>options because you can repeat looks with your family, which

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with the only time you're repeating significant others

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 2>their favorite things in yours, including those little nothings that

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 2>can make your trip sucksier, business associates, business tire that

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 2>doesn't easily wrinkle, including a dress, the option in case

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 2>dinner follows the big meetings.

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like this whole section is a little

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 1>bit the opposite of this Reddit communityum part of called

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>her one bag.

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>It's really opposite her one bag because she says only

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 2>do carry on for a three day trip.

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Where it's like she's checking the most massive suitcases for

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 1>a five day trip.

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>She's very my HouseGuest, Mickey Blonco coming with three full sized,

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 2>massive suitcases.

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Just go start with shoes at the bottom. I put

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>mine in sacks, either those that come with the shoes

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 1>or draws the don't get scratched. Then next layer is

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>jeans folded in half, then layer everything else. So I

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>do put jeans at the bottom, but I don't put

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>shoes at bottom. I put shoes on the side, so

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I separate shoes. I put like one shoe on a

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.359
<v Speaker 1>sign and one shoe on another side, not together. No,

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>but I do carry in for a month, and I

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.280
<v Speaker 1>still have plenty of room and plenty of clothes.

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Plenty of room.

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with my gorgeous expandable samsonit.

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 2>You changed my life with that Samsonite because I bought it.

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>We'll put it like a page.

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 2>My favorite thing that she says to pack, which was insane.

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Again to reference my HouseGuest Mickey Blanco guest on the pod,

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>so she says, I always carry a hard paper calendar.

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>That's so weird.

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:31.879
<v Speaker 2>Blanco comes to my house, No unpacks like a Tiffany's like, no,

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 2>full ass walk not only a calendar and has the

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:42.720
<v Speaker 2>same exact Amazon witch calendar that maya house like full

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 2>ass like kitchen drawings of witchy.

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Girls, not just like photos of like sexy witches noes.

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>We're drawings of sexy witches van art kind of ye

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and art. And it was like and he was like,

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I carry too. He was actually so Rachel's though.

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>He was like I carried to kind of filled it

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:02.720
<v Speaker 1>out with like sharpie.

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was like folded in the bag.

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Because it just needs a large visual.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so weird. I mean I love having writing

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:13.879
<v Speaker 2>down things on my big calendar my kitchen. I don't

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 2>know if I'm traveling.

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 1>With it, yeah, I mean personally I use Google, cow

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>icw whatever like that does function for me pretty But like.

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 2>If you have your hobo bag. She also says like

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 2>write down what you need.

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, makings of a bonvoyage, purpose business, weather report, hot

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>or cold pack, separate, think me, mixed and matches, a

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.320
<v Speaker 1>complete professional outfits, A white bluff thing go with a

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>skirt suit and jeans, a pretty canasol. The fucking strangle

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>hold that camasols had on women in the early two thousands.

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Camsol over, camesol over cameras.

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like your sister had, Like she probably had

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 1>camocels and they had that little the lace.

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 2>No, the little lace at the top that was maybe

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 2>half an inch. Yeah, And honestly I had a few

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>of those too before I became the badass pimp I am.

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I had these, like the lace Candy, the lace Lion

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I had. It was yeah, but it was still a

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>little more like a wife pleaser. It was like from

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Urban and it was like a black tank with a tiny, tiny,

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:21.720
<v Speaker 2>tiny bit of lace.

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I think, huh, that actually does kind of sound sexy.

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was kind of like Rocker in London

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 2>and Trondreness act.

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, bring that back.

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, this is for when it's holiday cold. Don't forget

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 2>a hat. Newsboy, Beanie cap, floppy will beret, anything that folds, gloves, sunglasses.

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Pack hosiery, but never skinning colored. Don't forget a belter

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>who distension, bulky sweaters, addresses at the hips or waist,

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>and a wrap that can double as a scarf or shawl.

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually getting so confused. Everything has this like multi

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>dimensional like three piece shawl sweater, wrappable hats.

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Wait, we haven't even gotten to like the show. And

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 2>just like Curtain Brad and there fallout and just like

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 2>her fallout, all too a tailor.

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean everyone in that show is like a monster.

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Taylor is so funny.

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 2>You're so evil and like she's really trying to like

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>raz Brad.

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 1>She's the most like classic East Village evil bartender, like so.

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.439
<v Speaker 2>True where she's just being like fucking like Rebecca took

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>all my shifts. Yeah, like and she has this insane

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 2>choppy like Taylor moms and cut.

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 1>And she's so mean to Brad. She's so abusive to

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 1>this poor gate intern, just being like he's like all

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the dresses got soaked because Rachel's garage flooded in the range.

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 1>She's just like you need to deal with this. I

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>have to go to the reress please get it together,

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>that dresses.

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 2>And then he's trying to fix it by like calling

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.280
<v Speaker 2>all the stories to get new dresses again for Debora Messing.

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:56.799
<v Speaker 2>So he's like doing the thing where he was like, well,

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.879
<v Speaker 2>let me try to fix the problem before even Rachel

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Zoe finds out about the problem.

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>And then she also told him not to tell Rachel Zoe,

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>which was and then he's mad at him for not

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>telling him. He doesn't even throw into the bus because

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>he's like actually good person. And now I'm like justice

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>for Brad Gorski, even though he is just now.

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 2>He's become such like an insane like evil cheesy.

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>An evil cheesy fashion who's so also doing the thing

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that Tan France does where it's like your hair doesn't

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 1>need to be so Jimmy utronto seven.

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I know, and it's still insanely, I mean.

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Now so much cuter if you had like a close

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>cropped fashion French haircut.

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Tell him, Brad, tell him bad dear Brad, let's crop it.

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 2>And I guess their fallout was because she thought he

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 2>was like stealing clients from her because he got obviously

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 2>like too big for his bridges. But the point is it's.

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Like that you fall out with your former employer, your

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>maid ysinist. Literally, it's like it's kind of just like,

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean that this student becomes a master.

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you want me to just sit here for and

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 2>help you like get dresses for debor messing and not

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 2>get my own clients. Yeah, learn, it's like teach.

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, why are you trying to teach him

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want him to get his own clients.

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about her opinion on jeans for a second,

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 2>because it's just.

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Lets there's like forty pages on jeans where she's like,

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>don't wear jeans the office, but also so much is

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:19.879
<v Speaker 1>happening in Denham right now?

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 2>And then on her podcast that I was listening to

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>from two months ago, her producer goes, so, how often

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 2>are you bringing your Chanelle denim bag to the Hamptons

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, oh, of course, of course I'm bringing

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 2>the Dunham Chanel.

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 1>There's also this thing in the book where she has

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>little like celebrities are invited to sound off.

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Such as Jennifer Garner and.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Like real celebrities, it's Runner, Michael Course and Hathaway. There's

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 1>this little section and Hathaway cracks the gene code we've

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>been waiting. If you're thin, you can probably get away

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>with a stiff gene. If you're like me and a

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>bit curvy, then some stretches the way to go. There

0:44:57.760 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>are even some brands that managed to cut a skan

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>jing with stretch that looks good on the rest of

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:06.280
<v Speaker 1>us shapely girls. Because Anne Hathaway in like two thousand

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and one terms was like fat. She was fat.

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 2>And also this is the time when I think the

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 2>first time jeans was stretched came out in like.

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Not a like because they hadn't figured out how to

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>like inject like spandex, and they had made.

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I think eighties like total ridiculous stonewashed jeans with

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.280
<v Speaker 2>like a big pouch over it, but not the skinny

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:31.320
<v Speaker 2>jeans we know today that are like three percent elastine.

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 1>And then Rachel Zoe goes gray. Fitting Ritlican jene should

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>not look like they're squeezing you out like sausage from

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>its casein if the waist cuts your hips running on

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the line, your trursto create a fat roll. Cast those

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>jeans off immediately. In all likelihood, you don't need to diet.

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>In all likelihood you don't need to diet.

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like all but you probably do. Rachel Zobi she's

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 2>really anti jeens, but she's also like I get they're

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 2>like a part of today, and like we all do

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 2>need a pair of jeans, so you should have a

0:45:58.000 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 2>pair of like stove top skin.

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>But she goes. I believe genes can be worn in

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>a mile long list of scenarios. I wear them for

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>work and play, of course, and occasionally on a night

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>out celebrating. I also believe denham should be used and

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>not abused. She's very dunhim is a privilege. I agree,

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and like know when to use it. They're ideal for

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>running around on your day off or a dinner party

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>at a best friend's house. Some jeans could even be

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>right for work, depending on the office of dress code

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and culture. But when it comes to a company event,

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.479
<v Speaker 1>unless it's some hoe down barbecue off for a little

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>more than dunhim out of respect for your employers in industry,

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a dresser pair of trousers is no more difficult to

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>get into her list relaxed, and it makes an entirely

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>better statement. No matter on which you glam up jeans,

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>there's still jeans. So she comes down the office, but

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>not an office party unless it's like a backyard hoedown and.

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like themed. And she's also like never never do

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 2>a Canadian tuxedo, like please, She's very.

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 2>She's being so like fashioned police and just being like,

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 2>oh okay, Willie Nelson.

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure now she saw like Billy Eilish and like,

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, a huge.

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.320
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I die, I die, I die for Billy.

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I die for Billy, I die for segments does she wear?

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 2>How does she live? Okay, how does she live? Here's

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 2>the thing? Like she has a big white Bobo Italia

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 2>CNB couch and in the show she's like Roger, I

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 2>want a furniture and he's like, we just got a

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 2>couch two years ago, and she's like so and he

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, you told me this would be for life.

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And so then they go to Fendi Cassa and they's

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>like furniture. It's like very like modern, like everything is

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>just so like kind of euro early two thousands, like square.

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Square white, but and it's cool, like I feel like

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 2>she talks about just like being fun. She does the

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Clinton Kelly thing where she's just like, buy a ton

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 2>of different pattern cups from FLA Markets.

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:06.320
<v Speaker 1>She says at one point, then she loves Kelly Wurstler's style,

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 1>but she's like, obviously that's like way too colorful and

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 1>maximalist for me. I'm super modern and having like one

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Amarillis on the counter and then just like this all

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>white room and so it's celebrity and like one large

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>canvas that's like all yellow.

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 2>And then she's also like very like me and dorm

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 2>in this way where she's being like, cant afford pricey art,

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 2>get vintage magazines and frame.

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Them, frame magazines, Carla fil Massoni blankets. I don't know.

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 1>The whole friending cost some thing to me is a

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit like one stop shop where I'm like right

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>where she's just like, oh wait, it's designer, Like she says,

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>don't fall for designer, but then she's like I need

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to cost a couch. Yeah.

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>She really isn't following her own creed in this no.

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I think like when it comes to furniture, like everything

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.240
<v Speaker 1>that she's learned from fashions, she throws out the window,

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 1>which I don't really get. It's like, shouldn't you be

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like a student of this and do what you like

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and a mix of vintage and and she's.

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, she's get Massoni pillow.

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>And research and it's like where is all that, Like

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 1>where's the inspiration?

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:08.239
<v Speaker 2>You know what it is? It was because they were

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 2>coming to photograph her house. She panicked, and she panicked

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:13.720
<v Speaker 2>was already kind of just pretty beige.

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>It was beige and boring, and it's.

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Like where are the funky cups?

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:18.880
<v Speaker 1>But I guess it also because like ultimately she is

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 1>basic and metallic flat, so like the house is going

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to have.

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Like she has flats, so it's going to be just

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 2>like white leather section.

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:28.359
<v Speaker 1>It's not being so like a dual told sofa and

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 1>like dark cherrywood walls and like yeah, fourteenth century tapestry.

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like she's so obsessed and she has another page

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 2>from like the Massoni granddaughter who is being so like

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm a mess and I'm not as organized as Rachel Zoe,

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 2>but I wish she was like took more of her

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.600
<v Speaker 2>own advice and like was a little more or less

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 2>like three magazines and the same modern lamp that like

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 2>everyone has go wireless or compact in the kitchen, tuk

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>away everything else involved in a Media Center. Also throughout

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 2>this book she talks about travel and like me, She's like,

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 2>always stalk your iPod. I'm like, and bring DVD. But

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 2>then there's a photo of her and Roger on their.

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Bed with DVD. So many clickers in dvdps.

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 2>And she is just a cheesy in dorm and has

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 2>a frame photo of Johnny Depp that she got like

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.919
<v Speaker 2>blown up. It's like a little frame bridge in this way.

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait what did she eat? Can I just this

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:22.799
<v Speaker 1>section where Amy Soco as in Bungalow E. If you

0:50:22.800 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know it, look it up. Yes. I went to

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Mangalo eight for a Diesel after party in two those

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and eight.

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Now here you are in your Diesel hoodie.

0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's so crazy. And I went with the

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>entire cast of Project Home By season three and I

0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>spent the whole night talking to Angela, who is completely insane.

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know her, look around corrupt Anyways, Amy

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Soco has a little piece on the at Home bar.

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 1>The perfect host is always ready for an impromptu cocktail party.

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I know this all too well at Bungalow eight, where

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of friends show up at all kinds of hours,

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 1>ready to have the time of their lives at your place.

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Having the following essentials and stock will make her personal

0:50:56.280 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>bungalow just as great. The tools a cork, squirrel, a

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:03.240
<v Speaker 1>double jigger, a shaker, a cocktailspan is very just like, okay,

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the most normal things glasses old fashioned, those short scott

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 1>ones are ready to go. I do agree, like a

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 1>classic tumbler, like a short tumbler is the best, like

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a rocks.

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Glass basically, which I kind of like need.

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.279
<v Speaker 1>As opposed to like a high ball is really like

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I use her all the time.

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:22.880
<v Speaker 2>It's and I think good for guests.

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:25.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's also just like, oh I love the small

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 1>color mo rocan glasses and you can get them to

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:32.480
<v Speaker 1>by the case, bottle service, vodka, bourbon, rum, tequil, legit.

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 1>She's just listing all liquors. I do feel Rachel's sop

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:38.400
<v Speaker 1>has like a bar that's so hidden because she is

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:41.320
<v Speaker 1>so hidden fridge and it's like hidden in a cabinet.

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.840
<v Speaker 1>But like she's only drinking besides bubbles.

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:47.120
<v Speaker 2>No, she's very just like white wine and one glass

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 2>of champagne because that's like, how else do you do

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 2>so many events the night she's bubbles? I also think, yes,

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 2>you should have a stalked bar, but I also think

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 2>it's better to slim it down, like have a light

0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 2>in a dark, like maybe have a whiskey in a

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:00.959
<v Speaker 2>vodka and beer and wine. I don't think you need

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 2>like gin whiskey rum vibe.

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I usually don't have like all five majors, but actually

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe I do have like a little bit of everything

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>at some point.

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, she doesn't cook obviously, and like when she has

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 2>this like housewarming for her friends and parents, she orders

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 2>from Johnson third Famous.

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Where I was going to every day when I was

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:23.759
<v Speaker 1>staying at maybe friend of the Pod Blaine's house, I

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 1>was in La and it's just like so like not

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 1>even that good and expensive, but you're like, I'm so

0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:30.359
<v Speaker 1>la and enrich, and I'm getting this.

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Chicken salad and like she's not eating, No one's eating. Yes,

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 2>there was a bowl of curry chicken salad, being like

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 2>is this a barn And there's like at a mama.

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Shoe ma, and she's having three bites and be like,

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm having way too much of this. She also invented

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Bethany in this way because both of them are bobbleheads.

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Bobbleheads who are like say.

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Type and scary and psychotic and caffeine and.

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 2>Saying like I die and like being like coffee and

0:52:56.840 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 2>like it's crazy. She doesn't even talk about coffee, even

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:03.600
<v Speaker 2>though it's like she's give me my like valium latte personality.

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to speak ntill I've had my all

0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>black or is she.

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:10.799
<v Speaker 2>So like vanilla latte and it's getting so like yeah,

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 2>but then that feels like to me calories, So I'm like,

0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 2>she's just huge.

0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 1>But she's also the girl who like only gets her

0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 1>colories from coffee. That's true because she's had her massive

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 1>like eight hundred calories star. She was like, I'm actually good,

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I already ate and she can have six grapes later.

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:27.839
<v Speaker 2>But then it's like she mentions once and here being

0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 2>like it's so good to take time with Roger making

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.280
<v Speaker 2>a late night meal. It's like you guys are.

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Not getting your fendy Costa kitchen dirty.

0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:39.719
<v Speaker 2>No, because even he and that he was like we

0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 2>been like she's very kendal generally slicing one cucumber. Okay,

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 2>what does she wear?

0:53:47.360 --> 0:53:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess like metallic literally but also not.

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 2>But also like when I think of Rachel's so specifically,

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I think of a really flowy silk then belted, belted

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 2>hobo bag, metallic flats.

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hair for day. He's basically like stealing clothing from

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the curve market and belting it for the size zero market.

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Stop stealing clothes from the curve market. Okay, leave some

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:15.760
<v Speaker 2>for us. Okay, who are you in the book?

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:21.360
<v Speaker 5>Like, I mean, I have Brad, but you're Brad but like, okay,

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 5>sometimes you are like the most evil like Indie East

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 5>villainch bartender girl, because I'm Indy, I'm fucking Indie, you.

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Loser, but you're being more these shirts are a mess.

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 2>But I think it's more I'm tailor and you're Rachel

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:39.560
<v Speaker 2>So and like you're huge coffee and like because Rachel

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:41.920
<v Speaker 2>So doesn't have to be mean to Brad because she

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>just takes like tailor to sushi and is like, can

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 2>we just like talk like she has Taylor be mean

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 2>to Brad, right, and so she can be fat and

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.839
<v Speaker 2>dirty work. You're fucking dirty work and I'm just being

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:54.240
<v Speaker 2>like so scared you're.

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 1>BD, like calling me on your PDA being just like

0:54:57.800 --> 0:55:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sick, and I'm like you actually to come in.

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm really sick, Like, well we're dressing duble messing,

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 2>so come in. You can be sick when you're dead, bitch.

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess book was so fun.

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's I like that it's a textbook and it's

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 1>so chock full of like insane advice about so.

0:55:18.200 --> 0:55:20.879
<v Speaker 2>Much advice and like kind of like breakout. Well, there's

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 2>also all this like fashion illustration, that.

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Much fashion illustration. I do love the photos of women

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>in the two thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this like really blurry, blown up photos of just

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<v Speaker 2>like Beascha Barton getting her hair done. Is It's really

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<v Speaker 2>sad because this whole book is a bad She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>Misha looks so cute, and she rocks her kads and

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<v Speaker 2>jeans when she's done a sneakers and like all these

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<v Speaker 2>just little like Misha does this, and Misha does she

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<v Speaker 2>was on.

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<v Speaker 1>Top of the world. She was so perfect period and

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel so bad. And I guess that the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is it's like when you're not a good actress.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like she must have been a pill

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<v Speaker 1>to be around or something, because I feel like she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't retain a lot of like allies as she moved

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<v Speaker 1>into adulthood and then she just got so fucked over

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<v Speaker 1>and did all the wrong projects.

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<v Speaker 2>She became like depressed and didn't make allies. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Zoe loves her well.

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<v Speaker 1>She did that. I don't know if they're still hanging out.

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<v Speaker 2>No they aren't. And then she was on Dancing with

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<v Speaker 2>the Stars and it was like really sad. Remember she

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<v Speaker 2>was all smoking a bong in her car, so random

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<v Speaker 2>new carbong. Anyway, I give this book like, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard to say. It's like some iconic. It's she's iconic,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, go watch the Ritual Zoe Project. As a book,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not very revealing, and like, frankly, a lot of

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the advice isn't like that good. It's not She's.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally saying, you're bring gumb on a blaze. So like

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<v Speaker 2>her personality, it's hard to because it's I'm alsomate with

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<v Speaker 2>the Lauren Conra because funnier because Lauren's like dumber and

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<v Speaker 2>more insane like her fashion. Zoe is such an icon

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<v Speaker 2>so when she is being like bring gum, you are

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel, I guess I'm not actually going to recommend that

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<v Speaker 1>people go out and buy this book. Yeah, give it

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<v Speaker 1>like two out of five metallic flats, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>say give the show like five out of five statement jewelries,

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry talk, start listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Two point eight stovepipe vintage Levi's out of five. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you saw this at a thrift store,

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<v Speaker 2>buy it, order it from thrift books. No, but I think,

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<v Speaker 2>actually this would be really fun gift. Because she talks

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<v Speaker 2>about alternative gifting. She was like, instead of bringing wine,

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<v Speaker 2>bring a photo of you and the host over to

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<v Speaker 2>someone's house, which I found so random.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It like an amazing housewarming gift or something like that

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<v Speaker 2>for someone like a stylish friend who loves metallic flats.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just imagining if I went over to someone's house

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<v Speaker 1>and I brought them a framed photo of me and

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<v Speaker 1>them as a gift for just like a six person

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<v Speaker 1>dinner party.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, people are already weirded out by that frame

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<v Speaker 2>photo I now have in my house of us at

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<v Speaker 2>the Russian Tea room that we were scammed into buying. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like you're new and frame just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh so you frame.

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<v Speaker 1>That that kind of looks like a normal night. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, listen, it's fall.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to buy more metallic flats and we need

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<v Speaker 2>to get renewed by iHeart.

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<v Speaker 1>We are up for renewal. And if you guys don't

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<v Speaker 1>flood our Apple podcast page with good reviews, they will

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<v Speaker 1>literally access from the lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you've already made a review, like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's under a pseudonym.

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<v Speaker 2>Hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know one minute and forty five seconds out

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<v Speaker 1>of your day to write a review and just.

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<v Speaker 2>Say like I die, like I'm obsessed with them, so

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<v Speaker 2>I am would mean the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It would really mean the world to us. We love

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<v Speaker 1>you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We die, We die for you, We literally die for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We just want to keep giving you the content that

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<v Speaker 1>you crave.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to keep buying like coffee table textbooks.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we also need my meme.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like to keep on buying flats.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Love me best. Our podcast is produced by Darby Masters,

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<v Speaker 2>who has like really chic Island style, kind of like

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 2>vintage Captains, et cetera. She throws like amazing President's Day parties.

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I die for her events our podcast. The supervisor producer

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<v Speaker 2>is Abuzafar. He's an amazing American designer really doing new

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<v Speaker 2>things like Dunham sandals.

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<v Speaker 1>Our show was executive produced by Christina Everett. I die

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:37.640
<v Speaker 1>for her. She has incredible style. She always wears statement

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 1>butterfly necklaces because she's such a free spirit. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. Our engineer is Beheid Frazier, And I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like, he's someone who is so high low

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and he'll mix still lettos with a foo door. Yes, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be like a Cashmir strug with a string bikini

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<v Speaker 1>in the winter.

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<v Speaker 2>So cute, and it's so unexpected.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's actually really really a ball, especially for as

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<v Speaker 1>conservative in office as iHeart. I think it's really really

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<v Speaker 1>brave of him.

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<v Speaker 2>The music was done other by like one of my

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<v Speaker 2>most favorite DJ, Stephen Phelips. Course, I saw him at

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<v Speaker 2>Calm the other year. I died at his like remixes

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<v Speaker 2>at the Bungalow eight pop up.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give a quick note and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>our previous producers who we actually no longer work with

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<v Speaker 1>my prolout projects. We have a falling out over actually

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<v Speaker 1>Debrah Messine's dress at the two thousand and eight American

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<v Speaker 1>Television Awards. It's fine, It's water under their bridge. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>see him at Spago and we'll grab a martini. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a few SIPs. So it's really not that big

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<v Speaker 1>of a deal. And I wish him all the beasts

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<v Speaker 1>in his future.

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<v Speaker 2>Knows, I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>really really interesting stuff out there, really call.

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<v Speaker 2>Like vintage episodes also if you want to catch up,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're looking for something like Timeless for a road trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's like a great mix of classic

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<v Speaker 1>and vintage and modern and you're going to find that

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