1
00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,600
Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be

2
00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,400
Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised.

3
00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,720
Speaker 2: The world's a big podcasts.

4
00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,680
Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

5
00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,239
Speaker 2: Open it up to our emailers and our callers and

6
00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,480
Speaker 2: see what they want to talk about, really anything.

7
00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,360
Speaker 3: What are you watching on TV movies?

8
00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,240
Speaker 4: We're going to get back onto a soap conversation?

9
00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,320
Speaker 3: Something wrong with that?

10
00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,560
Speaker 4: You got a problem with that?

11
00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,360
Speaker 3: Think you're better than me?

12
00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,360
Speaker 2: And then locally, you know, with the other team. Big

13
00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,480
Speaker 2: trade for the Celtics, Prazinca coming to Boston. Rhode Island

14
00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,960
Speaker 2: drivers are the worst drivers because the state is so small.

15
00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,280
Speaker 2: They don't get enough practice. First of all, I find

16
00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,320
Speaker 2: them very disrespectful. If there's a big distance between you

17
00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,120
Speaker 2: and the contents, that's disrespectful too.

18
00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,040
Speaker 5: Could you ever see anybody who finds disrespecting more places?

19
00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,600
Speaker 4: Pet peeve of mine. People not knowing how to use roundabouts.

20
00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,880
Speaker 6: Okay, car with the light turned.

21
00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,479
Speaker 5: Screen and it takes how long do you wait? Yes?

22
00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,679
Speaker 4: Do you use your Morton friend?

23
00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,240
Speaker 6: People in the left lane who drive the exact spin

24
00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,240
Speaker 6: limit or below.

25
00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,000
Speaker 5: It's just soap with a slot. She's interested in nonsense.

26
00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,880
Speaker 5: Just not your nonsense.

27
00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,440
Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered.

28
00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,080
Speaker 5: Something tells me we're going to have a little time

29
00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,880
Speaker 5: for someone nonsense this week. It's a skeleton crew here,

30
00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,039
Speaker 5: to say the least, with with Paul Parole, who had

31
00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,600
Speaker 5: Paul Parola being one of the only ones in at

32
00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,119
Speaker 5: this time of year, with Evan Lazarre, and we brought

33
00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,400
Speaker 5: Tease down for a quick cameo appearance this week. But

34
00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,840
Speaker 5: Te's bombing from upstairs, coming in, coming in hot. Yeah,

35
00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,000
Speaker 5: I think we'll have some well, we'll try to start

36
00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,560
Speaker 5: off at least with some with some Patriots talk, some

37
00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:59,440
Speaker 5: football talk in general. Hopefully the weather's been so miserable

38
00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,120
Speaker 5: around here that hopefully at least our local followers are

39
00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,160
Speaker 5: paying attention and then tuning into to our Patriots on filter,

40
00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,320
Speaker 5: we'll get plenty of calls and emails. We're going to

41
00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,639
Speaker 5: do this a little differently today without Fred, because Fred's

42
00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,320
Speaker 5: on vacation. Normally he steers the ship. We're gonna have

43
00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,080
Speaker 5: Evan handle the emails.

44
00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,600
Speaker 3: Hopefully.

45
00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:24,640
Speaker 5: We're experiencing some technical difficulties right now, and Paul via

46
00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:30,280
Speaker 5: Matt is going to handle the call screener, So write in,

47
00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,800
Speaker 5: call in. We're always looking for some interaction with our

48
00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,400
Speaker 5: favorite fans. Just coming off the weekend. I think we'll

49
00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,639
Speaker 5: start with DeAndre Hopkins. But before we get into any

50
00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,200
Speaker 5: of that, guys, what's going on. Haven't talked to you guys.

51
00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,560
Speaker 5: So how was the weekend?

52
00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,960
Speaker 4: Weekend was good? I think we should mention that Fred

53
00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,200
Speaker 4: Induce are both on vacation, which tells me that, you know,

54
00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,880
Speaker 4: we're the poor ones that can't afford to go on vacation.

55
00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,640
Speaker 4: In this room right here, Fred is on the cape,

56
00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,919
Speaker 4: right at his mansion on the Cape, and I believe

57
00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,360
Speaker 4: Deuce is in Hawaii, Hawaii, La Hawaii at this point.

58
00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,560
Speaker 5: I think he's in Hawaii.

59
00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,960
Speaker 3: Now, yes, actually, Douce have a high noon.

60
00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,799
Speaker 4: You know, maybe he should call in a couple of

61
00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,320
Speaker 4: high nuns deep and see where it goes.

62
00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,040
Speaker 3: The wind in the background. That would be great there,

63
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,800
Speaker 3: even though at time it is in Hawaii.

64
00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's probably like six am.

65
00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,240
Speaker 4: Right, oh, right, right time. I'm not good with time changes.

66
00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,240
Speaker 5: Google it.

67
00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:28,440
Speaker 7: Oh.

68
00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there was I would say, not necessarily any

69
00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,680
Speaker 4: breaking news or anything.

70
00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,720
Speaker 5: I don't want to overstate it, but there was a

71
00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,520
Speaker 5: little furthering of the DeAndre Hopkins story this morning. I

72
00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,840
Speaker 5: thought because South Palatonio, who I think is a pretty

73
00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,280
Speaker 5: respected ESPN guy, you know, one of the longer tenured

74
00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,640
Speaker 5: U members of the NFL media at ESPN. He was

75
00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,560
Speaker 5: on ESPN Radio this morning and he sort of expressed

76
00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,640
Speaker 5: his thought that I think that they were asked him

77
00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,600
Speaker 5: that specifically about Hopkins in New England, and he felt

78
00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920
Speaker 5: I think he hears it. I believe so he thinks

79
00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,240
Speaker 5: that's gonna end up being that way. But he did

80
00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,040
Speaker 5: add some wrinkles to the story, which I don't think

81
00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,000
Speaker 5: if you guys correct me if I'm wrong. I hadn't

82
00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,800
Speaker 5: heard but a couple of other teams in Cleveland, in

83
00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,200
Speaker 5: Carolina that lurking, lurking expected to make a push.

84
00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,920
Speaker 4: You never want to be lurking. That's creepy.

85
00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,640
Speaker 5: Well, I worry about teams like that, and I'll tell

86
00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:28,120
Speaker 5: you why, especially Carolina team that's sort of looking to

87
00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,039
Speaker 5: get out of the doldrums, is maybe willing to go

88
00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,560
Speaker 5: a little bit further than you are. They have an

89
00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,360
Speaker 5: owner with as deep a pockets as any in the NFL,

90
00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,240
Speaker 5: and they have a number one overall pick quarterback in

91
00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,960
Speaker 5: Bryce Young that they're going to want to get, you know,

92
00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,560
Speaker 5: some weapons around so I worry about a team like Carolina,

93
00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,680
Speaker 5: even though I know a lot of people you know

94
00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,680
Speaker 5: listening to the talk radio this morning just sort of

95
00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,159
Speaker 5: laughed off the Panthers. I was like, I don't laugh

96
00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,279
Speaker 5: those I don't laugh those.

97
00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,000
Speaker 3: Guys out here, like he just wants to get paid.

98
00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000
Speaker 5: To just carry us on your thoughts and what you

99
00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,560
Speaker 5: what do you guys think of the salpal I won't

100
00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,320
Speaker 5: call it a report, but his comments on the.

101
00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,600
Speaker 4: Radio, Well, another connection to Carolina is that's where he's from.

102
00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,240
Speaker 4: He's from the Carolina area, went to Clemson, so he's

103
00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,760
Speaker 4: from that neck of the woods. So maybe it is

104
00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,120
Speaker 4: a little bit like Stefan Gilmour going to the Panthers

105
00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,000
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago as a homecoming of sorts.

106
00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,240
Speaker 4: But I'm with you that the two things that you

107
00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,680
Speaker 4: have to worry about with Hopkins if you're a Patriots fan,

108
00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,200
Speaker 4: is one a contender like Buffalo or Kansas City opening

109
00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,400
Speaker 4: up the room to be able to bring him in,

110
00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,240
Speaker 4: or someone out bidding you that is at least in

111
00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,360
Speaker 4: the ballpark or in the same sort of vicinity. I

112
00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,720
Speaker 4: think the Patriots have a little bit more aspirations than

113
00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,040
Speaker 4: the Panthers, just because It is year one of Bryce

114
00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,680
Speaker 4: Young and we'll see what he brings to the table.

115
00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,320
Speaker 5: But I don't think there's much of a question. I

116
00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,520
Speaker 5: think last week I sort of irritated some people by

117
00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,479
Speaker 5: suggesting that Tennessee and New England not all that different. Yeah,

118
00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:57,200
Speaker 5: I think the Patriots are a clear step above with Carolina.

119
00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,480
Speaker 5: Is the only thing about Carolina is they playing a

120
00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,160
Speaker 5: terrible vision that anybody could win.

121
00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. The Browns has been out there a little bit

122
00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,960
Speaker 4: because of Deshaun Watson and because of his relationship going

123
00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,200
Speaker 4: back to Houston with Deshaun Watson. So Deshaun Watson had

124
00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,919
Speaker 4: a press conference during OTAs where he said love to

125
00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,080
Speaker 4: have him, right, I love to be to team up

126
00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,600
Speaker 4: with him again, And they did talk about it, but

127
00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,320
Speaker 4: Mary Kay Cabot came out and said the Browns are

128
00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,000
Speaker 4: not interested.

129
00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I saw Florio sort of furthered that a

130
00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,159
Speaker 5: little bit this morning, saying, you know, Watson continues to

131
00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,919
Speaker 5: say it, but the Browns reportedly are not interested. Well,

132
00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,640
Speaker 5: they've made a lot of moves in that room. You know,

133
00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,320
Speaker 5: They've added Amari Cooper, they added Elijah Moore this offseason,

134
00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,520
Speaker 5: so they've already tried to stack that wide receiver room,

135
00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,880
Speaker 5: So I think that they're looking to see what do

136
00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,000
Speaker 5: we have here first before they will go ahead and

137
00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,320
Speaker 5: make a.

138
00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:51,839
Speaker 4: Move like that.

139
00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much, as long as he doesn't go to

140
00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,120
Speaker 3: a contender in the AFC, I don't care either cover

141
00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,359
Speaker 3: the Patriots or go to Carolina.

142
00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,840
Speaker 5: That's interesting because now I know you listen to the

143
00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,039
Speaker 5: show's tease when you're not a part of them. Evan

144
00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,359
Speaker 5: I think is probably the strongest of our group in

145
00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,720
Speaker 5: the pro column for Hopkins, but we all want them,

146
00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,120
Speaker 5: Fred Mike myself, we all want them. I think Evan's

147
00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,920
Speaker 5: probably the strongest, but you seem a little bit more.

148
00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:17,040
Speaker 7: No.

149
00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,240
Speaker 3: I mean I want him almost for a point that

150
00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,320
Speaker 3: I'd rather him here than go anywhere else. But I

151
00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,720
Speaker 3: mean he's a top ten receiver in league, and when

152
00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,640
Speaker 3: he's healthy, I mean top five, So I think he

153
00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,160
Speaker 3: brings something we don't have and changes the complete offense.

154
00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I look at it from two.

155
00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be fully transparent. I have two reasons to

156
00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,400
Speaker 4: want this. One is because of what he potentially could

157
00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,040
Speaker 4: bring to the football team and make an impact there,

158
00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,040
Speaker 4: but quite frankly, it's also just more interesting to have

159
00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,680
Speaker 4: him here for us, and it would be more It

160
00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,840
Speaker 4: would be more exciting to cover a team that has

161
00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,680
Speaker 4: a stratice. So I will, you know, when Evan comes

162
00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,360
Speaker 4: back to practice, actually we will have Wednesdays, like you know,

163
00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,840
Speaker 4: he won't practice those veteran wednesdays. But no, it it

164
00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,240
Speaker 4: makes the team more exciting. It creates more buzz around

165
00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,960
Speaker 4: the team. And although I don't think Bill Belichick gives

166
00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,560
Speaker 4: two f's about that, I do think that the overall

167
00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,880
Speaker 4: buzz and confidence that you get from making a move

168
00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,000
Speaker 4: like that coming into trading camp, people might have a

169
00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,960
Speaker 4: little bit more pep in their step around the building

170
00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,960
Speaker 4: if all of a sudden it feels like, all right,

171
00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,320
Speaker 4: we got something really brewing here. Now we have guys

172
00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,440
Speaker 4: that we already like in that receiver room and the

173
00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,360
Speaker 4: tight ends and Remandre, and now all of a sudden

174
00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,840
Speaker 4: you add Hopkins to that mix as well. In Bill

175
00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,200
Speaker 4: O'Brien's back, there's a little bit more confidence. And I

176
00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,800
Speaker 4: think that that's something that his team really lacked last

177
00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,640
Speaker 4: year in that locker room was belief, continuity, just understanding

178
00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,120
Speaker 4: what they're doing and belief in what they're doing. And

179
00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,760
Speaker 4: I think that that can go a long way, when

180
00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,160
Speaker 4: you start to add some of these bigger names and

181
00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,559
Speaker 4: star power to the room.

182
00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,280
Speaker 3: What also gives the opposing defense as somebody actually game

183
00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,160
Speaker 3: planed floor.

184
00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,000
Speaker 5: No question, and right now it's Ramadre Stevenson.

185
00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,160
Speaker 3: That's you know.

186
00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,840
Speaker 5: And to a lesser extent, I would say, based on

187
00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,120
Speaker 5: what we saw this spring, you're probably gonna be more

188
00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,640
Speaker 5: prepared for the two tight end looks than maybe you

189
00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,200
Speaker 5: have in the recent past with Kasiki and Hunter Henry.

190
00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, DeAndre Hopkins is a guy that

191
00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,800
Speaker 5: the other teams are gonna have to say, Okay, where's

192
00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,080
Speaker 5: our number one corner. We're gonna have to make sure

193
00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,480
Speaker 5: that we find ways to make sure that we're matching

194
00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,720
Speaker 5: up our best personnel on Hopkins because he would clearly

195
00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:26,840
Speaker 5: be the number one on.

196
00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,320
Speaker 3: He opens it up for the rest of the team,

197
00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,000
Speaker 3: which I feel we haven't had that in so long.

198
00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's why I've been higher on it more

199
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,319
Speaker 4: than anything. Is more the trickle down effect than necessarily

200
00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,200
Speaker 4: that Hopkins is going to come in and be a

201
00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,720
Speaker 4: fifteen hundred yard receiver like he was in his prime.

202
00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,000
Speaker 4: It just slots everybody into the right order in the

203
00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,840
Speaker 4: pecking order, and then you also have guys like Juju

204
00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,240
Speaker 4: and guys like the t tight ends that want to

205
00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,040
Speaker 4: win in the middle of the field, and in order

206
00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,280
Speaker 4: to win in the middle of the field, you got

207
00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,000
Speaker 4: to give him something to respect on the outside. Now,

208
00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,760
Speaker 4: I think a lot of us are hoping that that

209
00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,959
Speaker 4: might be Taekwon Thorton, but Hopkins, I think just brings

210
00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,679
Speaker 4: a little bit more a cachet, certainly a little bit

211
00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,200
Speaker 4: more experience and real production in the league than Thornton.

212
00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,600
Speaker 4: And I still think that they work well together because

213
00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,960
Speaker 4: I think Thorton is kind of like that Will Fuller

214
00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,880
Speaker 4: take the top off the defense type, and Hopkins is

215
00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 4: still more of that possession receiver. So I love all

216
00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,840
Speaker 4: the combinations that you can come up with those two.

217
00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,640
Speaker 4: And you mentioned the two tight ends, which I think

218
00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,960
Speaker 4: is fascinating that since twenty one and twenty one and

219
00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,640
Speaker 4: twenty two the Patriots were twenty fifth in the league

220
00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,440
Speaker 4: and two tight end usage despite paying Johnny Smith and

221
00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,400
Speaker 4: Hunter Henry what they are paying them, I still need

222
00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,600
Speaker 4: to see a fully healthy wide receiver room and them

223
00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,960
Speaker 4: using twelve personnel as much as they did in the spring,

224
00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,120
Speaker 4: because they did it in the spring. But I think

225
00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,120
Speaker 4: a lot of that was because the veteran receivers were.

226
00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,960
Speaker 5: Could be in and out, could be Yeah, it's funny

227
00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,920
Speaker 5: that you it just when you were talking about despite

228
00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,320
Speaker 5: what they paid and Smith, there was a conversation on

229
00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,960
Speaker 5: EI this morning with Greg Hill and Jermaine Wiggins and

230
00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,000
Speaker 5: they were going back and forth on you know, Greg

231
00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,720
Speaker 5: Hill really wants Hopkins, you know, kind of like we do.

232
00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,400
Speaker 5: And he doesn't really understand, like, if it's just money,

233
00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,880
Speaker 5: why wouldn't you just pay the money? Blah blah blah

234
00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,720
Speaker 5: blah blah. And you know, Wiggy says that you know,

235
00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,480
Speaker 5: he'll do it if Robert lets him do it, and

236
00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,200
Speaker 5: you know, they're sort of going back and forth, and

237
00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,440
Speaker 5: Greg Hill's point is like, but Bill, it's it's sort

238
00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,480
Speaker 5: of against Bill what he wants to do. He doesn't

239
00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,280
Speaker 5: want to overpay and blah blah blah. And this is

240
00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,680
Speaker 5: what's frustrating because he won't do. He goes, what have

241
00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,319
Speaker 5: you ever seen? He actually said this, what have you

242
00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,199
Speaker 5: ever seen Bill overpaid for a free agent? And not

243
00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,079
Speaker 5: thinking of myself, I have like seven off the top

244
00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,000
Speaker 5: of my kid from two years ago, Like how did

245
00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:44,599
Speaker 5: you not say that?

246
00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,000
Speaker 3: Like that?

247
00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,800
Speaker 5: John ou Smith was overpaid in free agency, Like yeah, Nelson, I.

248
00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,040
Speaker 4: Find it interesting that people think that they've never done

249
00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,240
Speaker 4: that before, because you get that a lot that Oh no,

250
00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,720
Speaker 4: they don't. They don't spend like that, they don't hand

251
00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,319
Speaker 4: out that. I mean, did not do that with Tefan Gilmore.

252
00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,439
Speaker 5: Some of them they're right right, I mean they went

253
00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,960
Speaker 5: out and they were aggressive with Gilmore and they were right.

254
00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,400
Speaker 4: Right, or you know, I know it kind of Judon's.

255
00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,800
Speaker 5: They've probably been proven right.

256
00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,600
Speaker 4: Judon was a good one, Like I know, it is

257
00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,800
Speaker 4: similar in some ways to this Hopkins situation Drell Revas,

258
00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,040
Speaker 4: Like they went out and paid at least for one

259
00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,640
Speaker 4: year they paid Durel Revisa. Obviously we remember some of

260
00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,520
Speaker 4: the ones where they missed a little bit, like a

261
00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,480
Speaker 4: Dahlias Thomas. You know, like, yeah, but they've done it before.

262
00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,280
Speaker 5: But it's a perfect example of what I what I

263
00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,800
Speaker 5: always talk about, like I don't care necessarily. I mean

264
00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,400
Speaker 5: this on limit, I'm not telling you one hundred percent.

265
00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,520
Speaker 5: I don't care what they pay if the guy can

266
00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,000
Speaker 5: play right, and you know, like Matthew Judon is a

267
00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,679
Speaker 5: perfect example. I think they overpaid for Matthew Judon. I'd

268
00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,040
Speaker 5: probably still think that. I don't care. He's been a

269
00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,480
Speaker 5: very productive player for you. So if they gave him,

270
00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,439
Speaker 5: you know, and maybe it's you know, maybe they paid

271
00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,679
Speaker 5: just perfect for him, you know, based on what he's produced.

272
00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,400
Speaker 5: But I don't think anybody would go back and look

273
00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,400
Speaker 5: and say, just that Gilmour contract that really hurt him. Yeah,

274
00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,720
Speaker 5: Like you know, he was a terrific number one corner

275
00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,440
Speaker 5: for you who helped you win it, you know, get

276
00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,839
Speaker 5: to one and one and then win another like.

277
00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,040
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year too.

278
00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,839
Speaker 5: I just don't know why you would sit there and

279
00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,640
Speaker 5: you know, Fred about how much money these guys are costing. Yeah,

280
00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,559
Speaker 5: as long as they can play. Now, you know the

281
00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,400
Speaker 5: Jono Smith that that that hurts right because you paid

282
00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,720
Speaker 5: him money and he didn't produce. That's that's the problem.

283
00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,959
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the interesting thing with Hopkins is the timing.

284
00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,560
Speaker 4: If this if Hopkins had become a free agent in

285
00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,640
Speaker 4: March and there's a ton of cap space around the

286
00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,079
Speaker 4: league and it's a bidding war for him and there's five, six, seven,

287
00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,920
Speaker 4: eight teams interested in his services, then I would say

288
00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,000
Speaker 4: the Patriots were not going to win that bidding war

289
00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,520
Speaker 4: be in that mix. This is a really it's it's

290
00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,360
Speaker 4: similar with Dalvin Cook, Like you don't see players of

291
00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,160
Speaker 4: that caliber be available on June twenty seventh, the whole

292
00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,360
Speaker 4: lot and when they there is reasons for it. And

293
00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,760
Speaker 4: I think that that's something that this is almost now

294
00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,079
Speaker 4: it's almost a bargain. Like now it's they're almost getting

295
00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,079
Speaker 4: a deal. They're almost swindling the rest of the league

296
00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,880
Speaker 4: because they were able to get DeAndre Hopkins on July first,

297
00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,240
Speaker 4: when everybody else went in overpaid guys back in March.

298
00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,480
Speaker 4: So I think that that's how they view it sometimes,

299
00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,080
Speaker 4: is that now, all of a sudden, even if they

300
00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,320
Speaker 4: have to pay DeAndre Hopkins fifteen million dollars next year,

301
00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,880
Speaker 4: it's all it's suddenly a great deal, right because you

302
00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,960
Speaker 4: got them when you got them. It's post June one,

303
00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,120
Speaker 4: after the comp picks it. It wasn't in a huge

304
00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,480
Speaker 4: bidding war because a lot of the cap space has

305
00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,360
Speaker 4: dried up. But another interesting thing you just mentioned Judon.

306
00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,320
Speaker 4: You see some of that thirty third team stuff that

307
00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,560
Speaker 4: Belichick did with in that interview, and one of the

308
00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,600
Speaker 4: things they asked him about jude On, and he brought

309
00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,160
Speaker 4: up Judeon and he mentioned that Judon is their highest

310
00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,440
Speaker 4: paid player on their roster. And we talked about this

311
00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,840
Speaker 4: with Fred a lot about that. Is that worry you,

312
00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,720
Speaker 4: that hierarchy, It worries me. It worries I know everything.

313
00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080
Speaker 5: Everybody's gonna make fun of me, and rightly so, because

314
00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,880
Speaker 5: everything worries me.

315
00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,239
Speaker 4: It worries me because that tells me that he's cognizant

316
00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,080
Speaker 4: of we're paying Judan as the highest paid player on

317
00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:21,400
Speaker 4: our roster right now because Judon is representative of that.

318
00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,160
Speaker 4: That was his point. He was like, he's a great

319
00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,520
Speaker 4: football player and he's been a great foot soldier for us,

320
00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,120
Speaker 4: and that that's why we made him.

321
00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,239
Speaker 5: He was saying that as a as compliment, Yeah, complimenting

322
00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,080
Speaker 5: the player, right, and kind of themselves like we see,

323
00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,800
Speaker 5: we went out and got this guy, We targeted this

324
00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,040
Speaker 5: guy and he's produced. What I worry about is that

325
00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,440
Speaker 5: sets the bar, right, that sets the salary structure, so

326
00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,720
Speaker 5: no one makes more than Juda correct and I and

327
00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,080
Speaker 5: I you know, I don't like doing it that way.

328
00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,000
Speaker 5: It's one thing if you have a Patrick Mahomes right,

329
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,480
Speaker 5: Tom Brady for years here, you know.

330
00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,720
Speaker 4: He's only making sixteen million I think it is a year.

331
00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,320
Speaker 4: So it's not like it's one of these huge twenty

332
00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,080
Speaker 4: five million dollar contracts. But if you're going to pay

333
00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,080
Speaker 4: Judon sixteen, and he's the representation of if we're going

334
00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,720
Speaker 4: to have a big money player, this is what we

335
00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,160
Speaker 4: want the guy to do. He's he's great, he's great

336
00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,720
Speaker 4: in the locker room, he great with us. He's obviously

337
00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:18,240
Speaker 4: performs out on the field. He stays healthy and plays,

338
00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,160
Speaker 4: you know, the entire season. Those types of things are

339
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,160
Speaker 4: some of the concerns that people have about DeAndre Hopkins.

340
00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,280
Speaker 4: So they're not going to make DeAndre Hopkins a higher

341
00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,280
Speaker 4: paid player than Matthew Judon. That's not happening. And that's

342
00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,280
Speaker 4: because that's the structure that they've set up. So you know,

343
00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if they'll make anybody a higher paid play.

344
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,360
Speaker 5: Right, and that that's the part that worries me. But

345
00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,840
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not going to, as my buddy Foger

346
00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,160
Speaker 5: likes to say, I'm not going to kill them for

347
00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,480
Speaker 5: something they haven't done yet. Uh So I'll wait. But

348
00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,120
Speaker 5: Evan brought up in the middle of that, Dalvin Cook,

349
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,000
Speaker 5: and I also wanted to get to him, Tisse. You know,

350
00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,240
Speaker 5: he's another free agent, obviously a very productive running back

351
00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,080
Speaker 5: had some some injury history, much like all running backs.

352
00:16:59,120 --> 00:16:59,880
Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on.

353
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,320
Speaker 3: I'm so split. I low key hate him because he

354
00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,920
Speaker 3: cost me a fantasy season, but.

355
00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,879
Speaker 5: That's a story as long as there's a good reason.

356
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,120
Speaker 3: No, honestly with with Dalvin Cook, I think running backs

357
00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,679
Speaker 3: are complimentary, so almost more than DeAndre Hopkins. Like I

358
00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,480
Speaker 3: don't want Dalvin Cook to go with the Dolphins, Like

359
00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,480
Speaker 3: that completely switches up the game. I like Ramandre I

360
00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,560
Speaker 3: think he could be in every down back and Dalvin

361
00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,159
Speaker 3: Cook that would be a great one two punch. But

362
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,160
Speaker 3: it's almost like just get him to keep him out

363
00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,800
Speaker 3: of the division for the conference.

364
00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,560
Speaker 5: I think that's a dangerous game to play when you're

365
00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,359
Speaker 5: when you're starting to sign players so other teams don't

366
00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,439
Speaker 5: sign them. I mean, I understand what people you know

367
00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,160
Speaker 5: are thinking in Miami, but I think that's an offense

368
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,520
Speaker 5: that the running back. I don't think they need DALVINU.

369
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,640
Speaker 3: Is he twenty seven? Twenty seven? It's just I mean.

370
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,959
Speaker 4: He's coming off an injury. There's definitely some you got

371
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,920
Speaker 4: a couple more years, yeah, you know, in another year

372
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,960
Speaker 4: or two of big production, But.

373
00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,680
Speaker 3: So are you gonna sign into a big two year

374
00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,560
Speaker 3: contract a one year deal like it's it's so difficult

375
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,800
Speaker 3: with running because you can get.

376
00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,439
Speaker 4: Over the market. So there's definitely some smoke there with

377
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,400
Speaker 4: the Patriots. I think his agent right now is trying

378
00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,879
Speaker 4: to put every team he possibly can put out there

379
00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,919
Speaker 4: to kind of drum up a market. But I do

380
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,359
Speaker 4: think the Patriots have at least inquired on Dalvin Cook,

381
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,880
Speaker 4: and I think the biggest reason why is behind Remandre Time.

382
00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,320
Speaker 4: Montgomery hasn't had over two hundred scrimmage yards since twenty eighteen.

383
00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,880
Speaker 5: No, I hate he's not necessarily a reliable player. Even

384
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,760
Speaker 5: though we right again much like he keeps seeing it online,

385
00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,520
Speaker 5: we see why people like him.

386
00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's been five years impressive to one since

387
00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,200
Speaker 4: he's been like an actual NFL.

388
00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,800
Speaker 3: Him in twenty sixteen was the next level.

389
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's been five years since Time Montgomery's been

390
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,560
Speaker 4: a piece in an NFL offense. You have no idea

391
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,679
Speaker 4: really what Kevin Harrison and Pierre Strong are at this level. Now.

392
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,840
Speaker 4: I'm a guy that I think running backs don't matter.

393
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,640
Speaker 4: I think they're interchangeable. For the most part. I think

394
00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,000
Speaker 4: that you can cycle through the Pierre Strong pass, the

395
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,639
Speaker 4: torch from Damien Harris to Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris

396
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 4: to the next group. But with that being said, I

397
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 4: don't think that they necessarily view it that way. I

398
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,120
Speaker 4: think that they've always prioritized some depth there and some

399
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 4: experience there.

400
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:14,399
Speaker 3: They do.

401
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 4: And again it's like with DeAndre Hopkins, Dalvin Cook is

402
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 4: available on June twenty seventh, and that's a player that

403
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,680
Speaker 4: maybe does move the needle for you and maybe does

404
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 4: give you a real one two punch with Ramandre where

405
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 4: they can kind of trade off and then both of

406
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 4: those guys stay healthy towards the end of the year.

407
00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,639
Speaker 4: I'm reluctant with it because I don't want to overpay

408
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 4: a running back, especially one that's had a ton of

409
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 4: carries over the last couple of years, and that he

410
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,919
Speaker 4: is redundant to Remandre, Like I don't think you can

411
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 4: play them together. Like I don't think you're gonna be

412
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 4: running two running backs.

413
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 5: Hopkins on Cook.

414
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: There are other running backs out there too, Like we

415
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 3: signed James Robinson, obviously we let him go, but like

416
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 3: I would have rather taken Jack McKinnon like he's out there.

417
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 4: I think so. I think he actually him back to

418
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 4: the Chiefs.

419
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 3: Now did he Yeah, I thought I saw him.

420
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 5: Still listen, if you're gonna come in and step in

421
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 5: as a sub, you gotta know, you gotta know you could.

422
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 4: Be wrong about that. He still So the big names

423
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 4: are obviously Dalvin Uh, Leonard Fournette, and Zeke Elliott.

424
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. Fournette is one that I've always had

425
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 5: in the back of my mind because the Patriots had

426
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 5: that little sort of intalience with him. Yeah, was it last.

427
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 4: Year a couple when he went when he signed with

428
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 4: Tampa Ago. Yeah, if if Brady isn't in Tampa, then

429
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,959
Speaker 4: he's probably a Patriot and not a buck Leonard Fournette,

430
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 4: so they they've shown some interests. But to me, would

431
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 4: you rather pay Dalvin Cook?

432
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 3: You got me? Also, he chief, you got me?

433
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 5: I like, I like Cook better than Fournette.

434
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 4: Okay, but would you rather pay Cook six to eight

435
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 4: million for next year or for Nette two?

436
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 3: It's Fournette and Shape.

437
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna probably go Cook, just because I think he's

438
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 5: that much better of a player. But I understand your

439
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 5: point totally. Like, and I always come off as the

440
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 5: look don't hear about the cup guy?

441
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, you do have to care about

442
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 4: it like if you have a chance to get you know,

443
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 4: ninety percent of the production for you know, thirty percent

444
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 4: of the cost.

445
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 5: And I mean those kinds of things have to come

446
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 5: into play.

447
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 4: I just worry about Cook is a is a volume

448
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 4: back and to get the most out of somebody like

449
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook, he needs to be carrying the ball fifteen

450
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 4: to twenty times a game. And how many times are

451
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 4: you gonna run it between his only one?

452
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 5: Why I'm not overly interested in Cook because I do

453
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 5: think he's probably a better player than Stevenson, but at

454
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 5: this stage maybe not. Yea, So I'm fine with Stevenson

455
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 5: being the every down guy and can you have two

456
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 5: every down guys? Like it's kind of doesn't make sense. Yeah, right.

457
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 5: So I like Dalvin Cook. I've always liked I love,

458
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 5: love loved him coming out of Florida State. I think

459
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 5: he's a good piece. I know that you don't want

460
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 5: to see him go. I think he's a good piece

461
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 5: for one of those teams, a Buffalo or a Miami.

462
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 4: Miami does scare me the same as tease, not to

463
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 4: the point where I'm I'm jumping at him just to

464
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 4: keep them away from the Dolphins, But his agent has

465
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 4: made the rounds the last couple of days. Yeah, and

466
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 4: you know, he mentioned that he played in that state

467
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 4: and he's you know, add some memories at that stadium.

468
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 5: And I think they can use running backs really well

469
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 5: and I think that they They did it last year

470
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 5: with Wilson and most are But the problem with both

471
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 5: of those guys is they can never stay healthy. Yeah,

472
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 5: so you add another really good one who it's.

473
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 4: A great ability issues too. Yeah, it's a great scheme

474
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 4: fit he in Minnesota. They come from a similar tree,

475
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: you know, the North Turner West Coast offense with the

476
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 4: outside zone. It's not exactly one for one, but it's

477
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 4: pretty close.

478
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 5: And didn Miami also didn't they draft the kid from

479
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 5: Texas A and m Yes, Yeah, the speedy the speedy kid.

480
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, run because they well they that whole system. They

481
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 4: just they just want somebody that can fly, right. That's

482
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 4: like why most are so good in that scheme. He's health, Yes,

483
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 4: is because if you can run a four to three

484
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 4: eight and we get that cut back for you and

485
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 4: you're gone. You know, that's all they're trying to create.

486
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 7: Now.

487
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: McDaniels talked about a little bit, you know, regrets from

488
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 4: last year and how it kind of fell apart on

489
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: them and late in the year, and he has said

490
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: that they've he felt like they should have ran the ball.

491
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 5: And run enough. Yeah, I definitely felt that. Watching the

492
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 5: late season game against Green Bay, the last concussion that

493
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 5: Tua suffered, I felt like they dominated that game and

494
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 5: they were on the verge of blowing green Bay out

495
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 5: at every left you at every turn they kept and

496
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 5: then somehow they just found a way to have it

497
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 5: be a close game at the end and they lost it.

498
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 5: And I thought that was part of it. I thought

499
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 5: the play calling was a little out of whack in

500
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 5: that game. But you know, so Dalvin Cook and Hopkins

501
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 5: are on the table and you guys are right, there's

502
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 5: been a lot of smoke with it. I think there's

503
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 5: a lot of smoke with Hopkins's agent too. I think,

504
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 5: you know throwing. I mean, we haven't heard anything about

505
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 5: Carolina until Salpa throws it out here today. So I

506
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 5: at the same time wonders this is just a ploy,

507
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 5: like is it a done deal with the Patriots? And

508
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: the Patriots said, well, you know, we'll sign you for X,

509
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 5: We'll give you ten, we'll give you eleven whatever, you know,

510
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 5: take it or leave it. And the agent's just like.

511
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: Well, let's get a little bit more, get a little bit.

512
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 5: More if we can get a couple more teams out there.

513
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 5: You know, Hey, Soal Carolina, they're a lurking, you know.

514
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 5: I do wonder if this is part of that.

515
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: I mean, he just signed this agent, like he just

516
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: started working with this agent. I think it's a clutch

517
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: sports agent if I remember correctly, And they just when

518
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 4: he got released by Arizona. He was unrepresented, unrepresented before that,

519
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 4: and so he signs with an agent immediately once he

520
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 4: hits free agency, and now all of a sudden there's

521
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: a market for him out there, at least from the

522
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 4: media perspective.

523
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 3: So if this happens all these veteran free agents, you

524
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 3: think it happens beginning to training camp or more end

525
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: of training camp, like they don't want to do they

526
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: just don't want to do camp.

527
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 5: I think probably earlier then later. I don't know about

528
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 5: right at the start, but I would think you'd want

529
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 5: to at least get some yeah, you know, some time

530
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 5: in the preseason that you're here, especially those joint practices.

531
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

532
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 4: I think with Hopkins, because of his familiarity with Bill O'Brien.

533
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 4: He doesn't necessarily need to be here right away, but

534
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 4: I think that they would want him here by by

535
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 4: Green Bay, by those joint practice.

536
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 5: Like if he would like to miss most, if not all,

537
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 5: of training camp. I mean, I don't know about you.

538
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 5: With receivers, all I think of his hamstring poll.

539
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, or just timing, you know in the quarterback too,

540
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: Like he's not the receiver. That's necessarily He's not Tyrek Hill.

541
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: He's not going to create five yards of separation and

542
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: run behind the defense, so you know, on back shoulders,

543
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 4: on in cuts, like you need to have that timing

544
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 4: down with Mac Jones. And even though he probably knows

545
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: the playbook already because of playing for O'Brien and Houston,

546
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: he still needs to get that relationship with the quarterback.

547
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: I think as long as he's ready to practice by

548
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 4: the time they go to joint practices in Green Bay,

549
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 4: it's it's fine. But I think those very.

550
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 5: Give me one of those sets at least of joint practice.

551
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that first week of training camp, you

552
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: know that you have the three non padded or light

553
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: padded days and then no, he's not gonna be I

554
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 4: don't think he I don't think that he wants those

555
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't think he really is is

556
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: all hell bent on being here for those.

557
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 5: All right, Matt, let's let's look at the phone lines

558
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 5: and give Evan a little time to sort of check out.

559
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 5: Can we check out emails and maybe you can do

560
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 5: the fread and pretend that you're listening but not really

561
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 5: be listening. Fred's got a gift for that. So uh,

562
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 5: let's uh, let's lead off with our calls here. Matt

563
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: go to the phone lines with Todd in North Carolina.

564
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 8: So, you know, guys, I asked the other week about

565
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 8: the running back and you guys got to poot me.

566
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 8: And now I hear on Catch twenty two a little

567
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 8: about the running back and everything else.

568
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 9: And I'm like, these guys, they dismissed my question, and

569
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 9: now they're spending tons of times.

570
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 5: Are you dismissing questions?

571
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 4: I don't know, must have been in a bad mood.

572
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 7: Evn't got me back on the PU thing with this.

573
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: Just wait, even like you know mudgeons like Paul, like.

574
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 10: See, that's what got me back on there.

575
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 11: Which there's a little bit of it.

576
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: That could happen now to that.

577
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 4: Bye, guys, we're playing audio.

578
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: Now, what what is it?

579
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: Was?

580
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 5: This like this? This whole society for it, This whole

581
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: society has turned into the like just like you said

582
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 5: something I don't agree with, and I'm going to make

583
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 5: fun of you. And then what I'm going to do

584
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 5: most is not just make fun of you. I'm going

585
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 5: to show that you were making fun of someone else

586
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 5: and I'm going to try to get you in trouble.

587
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: All I said was that even a curmudgeon like Paul

588
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 4: wants them to sign DeAndre Hopkins. That's and you'r You

589
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 4: would fully admit I wantre Hopkins, that you want Andre Hopkins,

590
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: and you also fully admit that usually you're kind of negative.

591
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 5: So see, I think negative is a strong word, and

592
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 5: I think curmudgeon is a really strong word. But I

593
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 5: play a role. But what I do try to do

594
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 5: is rather than like, I'm not and this is what

595
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 5: you know And this will come back and haunt me. Now,

596
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 5: the next guy who calls in will have the audio

597
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 5: clip of me sort of painting all of the writers

598
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 5: with a broad brush. I do not necessarily buy conventional wisdom.

599
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 5: So if that makes me like a contrarian. I don't

600
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 5: mean to be a contrarian.

601
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: That's that's probably a better word than than I don't.

602
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 5: Like when things are just generally universally accepted, like you know,

603
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 5: you know, you don't want to overpay for him, Like

604
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 5: what is overpaying? Like I always I always push back

605
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 5: with when a guy makes whatever, whatever someone gave him,

606
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 5: that's what that's what he was worth, that's what he got.

607
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 5: You know, your value is what someone's willing to give you,

608
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 5: and if you don't end up playing to that level,

609
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: then that's a problem.

610
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 4: I Johnny Smith, not to pick on Johnny Smith.

611
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 5: Johnson didn't play to the level of what he got paid.

612
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 4: And it's a perfect example because of the length of

613
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: the contract. If you give DeAndre Hopkins one year, fifteen

614
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: million dollar deal and it doesn't work out, the only

615
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: thing that it's kind of impacting cap wise is twenty

616
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: twenty three Smith that when you give three four year

617
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: deals with a lot of guaranteed money, now he's carrying

618
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 4: a dead cap.

619
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 5: So I'm good though. This is good because that's a

620
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 5: good example. So what's going to happen when DeAndre Hopkins signs? Well,

621
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 5: how do you think it's going to be universally taking.

622
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: I'm mod Patriots media and I want him, so I'm

623
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 5: not trying to be a fraud here. I love it,

624
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 5: but I will look at it from all sides. And

625
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 5: this is why I would push back with because I know,

626
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: like I play a role here. Okay, this is why

627
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 5: I push back on the negative connotation, because because I

628
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 5: don't mean it to be. What I do is I'll

629
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 5: look at it and say this is what I wanted.

630
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 5: I'm not always right. Yeah, sometimes I'm wrong with things

631
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 5: that I want to happen and when they do them right.

632
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 5: So let's just say, for arguments, say he comes in

633
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 5: here and everybody's like this is great, they got to

634
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: number one receiver. Well, what if it really pisses off

635
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: Devontae Parker and he's gone, or annoys Kendrick Bourne and

636
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: you don't get anything out of them? What if even

637
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 5: worse to me than those two examples, somehow it stunts

638
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 5: the growth of Taekwon Thornton. Like these things can happen.

639
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: Nobody will look at those things. And when I say nobody,

640
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: I don't mean literally zero percent, but very few will

641
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 5: analyze that move in how it would affect everybody else

642
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 5: without saying, well, who cares? Would they think? You know, well,

643
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 5: I'm trying to create a good wide receiver cor not

644
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 5: just have one guy like I'm trying to see what

645
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 5: how can I maximize? Hopefully it's exactly the way Evan describes.

646
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 5: You have a guy who creates attention from the defensive

647
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 5: coordinator and it opens up maybe Will Fuller aka Tae

648
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 5: Kwon Thornton to get down the field and all of

649
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: a sudden he's averaging nineteen yards of catch on fifty

650
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 5: sixty catches. You know, like Will Fuller.

651
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: Right, I mean if DeAndre would be great, even if

652
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: he just gives the illusion that he's still DeAndre Hopkins.

653
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: You know, you watch a lot of that that Texans tape,

654
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: which you know I've nerded out on, and you see,

655
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 4: you know, the safety is collapsing down on Hopkins going

656
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 4: over the middle, and now Fuller has you know, a

657
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: deep post and it's just a foot race and it's

658
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: one on one down the field and he wins. You know,

659
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: you see things like that happen, and how Bill O'Brien

660
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: does do a good job of creating conflict in the

661
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: deep part of the field. Where now the safety has

662
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: to make a choice. Am I going to close off

663
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins on the incut or am I going to

664
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: stay on the post right? And if whichever one he picks,

665
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: the quarterback just throws the other ball and and that's that's.

666
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 5: And that's how I look at it, That's how I

667
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: would would hope that when you have that guy that

668
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 5: knocks everybody down a peg. We talk about it with

669
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: Christian Gonzalez hopefully being able to do that with the cornerbacks.

670
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 5: That's ideal, but there's there's another side that could happen,

671
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 5: and maybe he lost a step, maybe he's not that good,

672
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 5: Maybe he ruffles the feathers of the veterans that are back.

673
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 5: We saw Parker not necessarily sound all that thrilled because

674
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: he's probably thinking about it in terms of himself. And

675
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 5: if he stays in the first you know, he could go.

676
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 5: But if he stays, maybe his role is diminished and

677
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: that's not good for him. So there's a lot of

678
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: different ways to look at this stuff. I don't think

679
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 5: a lot of people do that. I think they just

680
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: look at the shiny new object and get excited. I

681
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: do too, Yeah, and I want Hopkins. Bottom line is

682
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: I weigh the pros and cons, and I think the

683
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 5: pros outweighed the cons. And I think that's what Bill

684
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 5: tries to do.

685
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: And to Todd's point about running backs, I hate paying

686
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: running backs.

687
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want Cooks, so I'm not paying.

688
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: I love Ramandre Stevenson. He's one of my favorite players

689
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: on the team currently. When it's hit his turn to

690
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: get paid in a couple of years, I'm.

691
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 5: News for people he will go unless for whatever reason

692
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 5: he sides, yeah, I'm gonna you know, I'll be willing

693
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 5: to sign an extension after this season because he's not

694
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 5: eligible now, so after this season he could sign an

695
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 5: extension and he says, oh, yeah, give me three years

696
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 5: and nine million. Oh maybe they'll do that.

697
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: It's it's absolutely the running back market right now. And

698
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: I know that. You know, ESPN's did a lot, like

699
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: Mina Kimes has talked a lot about this too. The

700
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: running back market right now is it's almost gotten to

701
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: the point where it's like kind of a problem that

702
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: they that they can't get paid. Like and I when

703
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: I say can't get paid, I don't mean like the

704
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: forty million dollar contracts. I just don't mean anything.

705
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: Look like that's a unicorn right there. Yeah, and he's

706
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: not gonna get paid.

707
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 5: But he will see. But the thing about like I do,

708
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 5: and I know what Evan's talking about, and I know

709
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: what you're talking about to teach you have Pollard, Jacobs

710
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 5: and Saquon are all franchised, if I'm not mistaken, right.

711
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: Right, because the franchise attack is now is a huge bargain.

712
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 5: Right, it is a bargain for what those guys are.

713
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 5: But at least you know they're employed and they make

714
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 5: is it like ten million? Yeah, I mean it's not

715
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 5: no jump h it's not right. But let's go to

716
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 5: the Dalvin Cook is unemployed, Leonard Fournette is unemployed. Zeke

717
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 5: is unemployed. Now, you know. I you know, at some

718
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 5: point in career the in comes kareem hunt, you know,

719
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: like Austin Eckler was upset, you know, with his contract

720
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 5: and like sort of threatened to hold out. They gave

721
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 5: him like a few shekels and he was like, oh great,

722
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 5: things Like they gave him some incentives that weren't even

723
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 5: worth like two million or something, and he's happy about it.

724
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 5: I I do kind of feel for the players I

725
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 5: know Melvin Gordon had some comments about it.

726
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 3: This week, the worst position to play in the league. Yeah,

727
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 3: training your kid to be a punter a kicker, And he's.

728
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 5: Right, But I'm just talking about like there there's still

729
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: important players. As much as I diminished them, there's still

730
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 5: they still have the ball in the hands a lot. Yeah,

731
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 5: but you can't get paid and it's just.

732
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: A term jetty d. Yeah. And so the one position

733
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 4: where the franchise tag has actually gone down is running back.

734
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: So every other position the franchise tag every single year

735
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 4: increases across the board, even kickers, right like it increases

736
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 4: across the board. Running backs is going the opposite directions

737
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: going down, and they just can't. Nobody is getting the

738
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: guarantees into multiple seasons. So the franchise tag at one

739
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: for ten is a good deal for teams because they're

740
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: not giving out twenty twenty five million dollars guaranteed in

741
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: the first two years. The one really good conversation I

742
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: heard about this was how this might actually trickle down

743
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 4: all the way to the college game because in college football,

744
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 4: running backs are still valuable. Running Backs still really matter

745
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 4: in the college game. So with nil they might actually

746
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 4: make more money signing a lucrative nil deal if you're

747
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: like a real star running back. I mean nobody's read bus,

748
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: but like think about like a Reggie Bush.

749
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 5: But that's interesting. If you could get some of these

750
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: running backs coming out of college and they can get

751
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 5: you know, a year's salary before they even get there, yeah,

752
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 5: or two right, then you know, all of a sudden,

753
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 5: it's a six year career instead of a four year

754
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 5: career before you.

755
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: It's getting to the point where if you are a

756
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 4: Reggie Bush, certainly, but even like a guy like Leondard Fournette,

757
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 4: right who had that really big playoff game against Michigan

758
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: or Bowl game against Michigan, and he's on the everybody's

759
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: radar and then he comes back to LSU for his

760
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: junior season before going to the league. You can cash out,

761
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 4: maybe even more so at that point of your career,

762
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: because at that point you are valuable to Georgia, you

763
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 4: are valuable to LSU. It's just in the NFL game,

764
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: there's too many running backs that can play. There's too

765
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: many guys that are good enough just to get the

766
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 4: production out of them, and there's not enough guys that are.

767
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 5: Really, really I'll be watching Robinson he gives, you know,

768
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 5: this year's class two to see if.

769
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: They're Bijon's a really good one.

770
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, if they're more like you know, I'm not talking

771
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 5: about stylistically, but if they're more like McCaffrey and Barkley

772
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 5: and Jacob's and less like you know, like Travis etn

773
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 5: has been okay. I mean, you got hurt the first year,

774
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 5: he was okay last year. You know, I don't know

775
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 5: if people would say I would sign up and do

776
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: that again as a first round picker. So I'm watching

777
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: those guys and see which way they trend.

778
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: Also, a player like Gibbs, like you can put him

779
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: in the slot, yeah, like, oh yeah, he's so versatile

780
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: that like, he's a player that's probably gonna get another contract.

781
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: But I could see some I'm with you a hundred percent.

782
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: That's why I said Bijeon's an interesting one, because that's

783
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 4: a true work course. Bell cow running back, right, he's

784
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: not he's got receiving the mobility, but he's two hundred

785
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: and twenty five pounds and he's definitely more geared towards

786
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 4: the old school. Are going to hand it to him

787
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: three hundred times so Seattle Kenneth Walker. Yeah, you know

788
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 4: million carries in college. Yeah, really good.

789
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and he had a really good rookie year,

790
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: what like after four years, right.

791
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 3: You know they just rack I think they did.

792
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Seahawks.

793
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'mprec sure.

794
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean that's good. That's good business. Like the

795
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: Patriots do it. Theriot come the Patriots had, you know,

796
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 5: the two last year. That's why I am not. That's

797
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 5: another reason why I'm not overly hot on the trail

798
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 5: of Dalvin Cook, as much as I like him as

799
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 5: a player, because I feel like you invested in that

800
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 5: with a couple of picks, and I think you should

801
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: should see it out. I think we saw flashes for

802
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 5: both of them, very small ones. Yeah, but you know

803
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 5: strong in Arizona and Harris was.

804
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 4: It Arizona as well, So that that double back to

805
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 4: back in Arizona and the Raiders or Mandre and Damien.

806
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: Harris missed the the well reminder got hurt really early

807
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 4: in the Cardinals game, okay, and then Harris was out.

808
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 5: For a while. Yeah, And I think that, I mean,

809
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 5: obviously Stevenson is going to be a number one guy,

810
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 5: but Kevin Harris should be able to give you four

811
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: or five carries between the tackles, and Pierre Strong should

812
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 5: be able to catch three or four passes in any game.

813
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 5: So it doesn't have to all be Stevenson. You can

814
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 5: have a couple of series a game where you just

815
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 5: tell Remandre you know what you know, middle of the

816
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 5: second quarter, take this series off, and we're not going

817
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 5: to sacrifice anything offensively. I'm not suggesting you you punt

818
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 5: on the on the possession, but you don't have to

819
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: have him because it's clear and he's he's admitted, he

820
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 5: talked about it in the spring he would down. Yeah,

821
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: and who wouldn't you know with that with that workload.

822
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think you got it right in that

823
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: Kevin Harris should be able to be a guy that

824
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: can carry it maybe even five to ten times a game. Right,

825
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: it's just a peer between the tackles, follow the blocking

826
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: and get you know, get as much as he can,

827
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: and then Pierre Strong. I still I still believe in

828
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: Pierre Strong's speed and big playability even the limited carries

829
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: that he's got, and he's got you know, two runs

830
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 4: of fifteen over fifteen yards, three runs of over ten

831
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 4: and nine carries last year. So you see that big

832
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: play potential. We saw it, you know, the forty four

833
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: yarder against Arizona last year. It's there. And with a

834
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: better coordination and better scheming, if they can get him

835
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: into some space with the with the ball in his hands,

836
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 4: then you got that potential. I just wonder, I don't

837
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: think that it kind of goes back to like, you know,

838
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: when they had to bring in Steven Jackson or like

839
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 4: they had to use a corderial Patterson at running back

840
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: in eighteen.

841
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 5: They've kept him.

842
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 4: They've always seemed to now since that those two years.

843
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 4: Was it sixteen, right with Steven Jackson at fifteen or

844
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 4: something like that. Yeah, they they always seem to be

845
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 4: well stocked there now and they're not.

846
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 5: And they shouldn't have any any issues with that. And

847
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 5: the fact that just what we're talking about with this

848
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: the play to the running back in general, there are

849
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 5: more talented options that potentially going to be on the street. Yeah,

850
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 5: you know, if you could, let's say, you know, god forbid,

851
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 5: Stevenson goes down in week two, if one d is

852
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 5: still available, right, I mean, that's that's a pretty good

853
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 5: fallback plan.

854
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: They have five running backs, including JJ Taylor is the

855
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 4: one guy we haven't mentioned.

856
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you guys and Evan specifically about

857
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 5: Taylor because No Socks and I talked about Taylor a

858
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 5: little bit this morning. Yeah, do you think this any like,

859
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 5: do they just look at him as a practice squad

860
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 5: guy who's versatile and can do that body Yeah?

861
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: I think so at this point. But I still I

862
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 4: think he's a better between the tackles runner than he

863
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: is like a third down back.

864
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: And that's really interesting.

865
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 4: And so I actually think that he's opposite of what

866
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: you would think based off of his size and his

867
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: skill set necessarily, but I think that he has always

868
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: been okay running the football between the tackles and the

869
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 4: limited opportunities that he's gotten. But with his body type

870
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: and his size, how much of a work place.

871
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 5: Twelve games in three years, Yeah, so he's never really

872
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 5: gotten a chance. No, that tells me that he probably

873
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 5: doesn't factor into their point.

874
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 4: Right, So then just to spin it forward, if J. J.

875
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: Taylor doesn't factor in, which I think we all agree on,

876
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: they have four backs on the roster right now. All

877
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: four of them are gonna make it because they usually

878
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: carry for anyways, and you're not going to go with three,

879
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: and so then on top of the fact that there's

880
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: always the injury that's going to come at that position,

881
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: it just there's just not a whole lot behind those

882
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: two guys, you know, behind Remandre, like in terms of

883
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 4: experience and in terms of like recent production in the league.

884
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 4: In Time Montgomery's case, it just as much as I

885
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 4: hate them giving a contract that they probably don't need

886
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 4: to give to Dalvin Cook or somebody like that, it

887
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: just seems like you need at least four running backs

888
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: to make it through the season. And right now, I

889
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: don't know if you can say they definitively have four

890
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: guys you can rely on.

891
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 5: Well, and I know this isn't you know, the be

892
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: all end all, but even like the preseason games, so

893
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 5: you don't want Time Montgomery and Reminder Stevenson taking very

894
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 5: many carries and preseason games, you're just going to go

895
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 5: with Taylor Strong and Kevin Harris. Like, oh jeez, we.

896
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: Had a fire alarm at our apartment at two thirty

897
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: in this morning, so I'm just the jinx.

898
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: So if you can hear in the background, we have

899
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 5: a emergency warning going.

900
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: Off during those in construction Those are.

901
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 5: Usually followed by instructions to whether or not we have

902
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 5: to leave the building, so we may have to stop

903
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 5: this wonderful podcast, which evidently is not getting a lot

904
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: of attention because we haven't gotten many phone calls, and

905
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 5: we do have some emails watch it. Why don't you

906
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: read some?

907
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have, we have a lot of emails. Actually,

908
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: some people want to talk about some of the non

909
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 4: football stuff too. Oh excellent, So uh Judy Blitz j

910
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: E W d Y Judy, Oh okay, interesting, want to

911
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 4: talk jerseys. I don't know if you guys have any

912
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 4: strong opinions on jerseys loves, but Judy does not like

913
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: the jerseys that the Patriots currently where and is real quickly,

914
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 4: I personally hate the current uniforms. The stripes on the

915
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: shoulders look like duct tape, and it's actually duct tape, Judy.

916
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: I learned that one day.

917
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 5: So this is why they don't like you.

918
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: They don't even go with the flow of the uniform

919
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 4: any ideas on when the news cycle of uniforms will

920
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 4: be ready, like one or two seasons away, or are

921
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 4: we in these indefinitely?

922
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: So Fred talked about this a little bit last week.

923
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 5: We do not know when they're up for another when

924
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 5: they plan to have another uniform change. I did see,

925
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 5: and I know tis you're looking at me, So I

926
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 5: know you saw it because I know you are all

927
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: over this guy. Our buddy Babs had.

928
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: A whole lot of quote unquote uniform information that he

929
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: put out on Twitter yesterday. He says, and I have

930
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: not seen this confirmed by anybody inside the organization, that

931
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: the Patriots are planning.

932
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: On wearing the red uniforms twice this year. That has

933
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 5: not been confirmed by anybody that I know of inside

934
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 5: the organization. And he talked about the possibility of changing

935
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 5: the combination of the traditional home uniform to wearing the

936
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: silver pants a couple of times. So I don't know

937
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 5: where Babs. You guys, he's on.

938
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 4: You know, he's on the mic.

939
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 5: He's a longtime Patriots fan. He is a training camp

940
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 5: all the time Patriots insider quote unquote. I don't know

941
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 5: where he gets his information, but so there would be

942
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 5: some different combinations. I guess to look forward to this.

943
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: Year, that's all I want, Like I imagine, actually I

944
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: don't want to ever imagine being a Jags fan, but

945
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: you know, they wake up on Sunday and they don't know,

946
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 3: like what the matchup's gonna be, Like, are you gonna

947
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: wear white pants teal pants? I don't know, Like I

948
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: just want some changes, you know. You wake up. I'm like, oh,

949
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 3: we're wearing the blues, and I think the I've gotten

950
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: used to the home jerseys like reluctantly, I'll deal with

951
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 3: it whatever, But it's the away jerseys. I can't stand them.

952
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: I used to. I used to like them the first game,

953
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: and now it's.

954
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 5: Just like I don't do you don't like the blueberries.

955
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: I kind of like the white. I kind of like

956
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 5: the white shirt a little better than me too.

957
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: I think the blue if you added not even silver

958
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: pants white pants with the blue would look unbelievable. But

959
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I want the Royal Blues back. That's all

960
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 3: I want. Give me the nineties Royal.

961
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: Blue if I'm not mistaken. Babs throw that out there too,

962
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 5: So I don't know. So, according to Babs, are wearing

963
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 5: every uniform the Patriots have ever worn.

964
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: This so I find it interesting though that so the

965
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: pat Patriot reds are now legendary, like everybody loves them,

966
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: and the nineties uniforms are have a little bit of

967
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 4: a you know, allowed group of people that I want

968
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 4: to see the Patriots wear those more. But Paul, correct

969
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: me if i'm those were not universally loved when they.

970
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 5: Actually wore them, right, I didn't really like them. Yeah,

971
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 5: but so don't let me speak for the entirety of

972
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 5: Patriots nation.

973
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: Let me I know, but I mean, I'm just saying

974
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: it's interesting that now everybody wants to bring you know,

975
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: I see people that really think that the red pat

976
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: Patriot uniform should be their default home uniform.

977
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 5: I really don't like the retro red uniform that we wear.

978
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 5: I like the late seventies version. Yeah, but most people

979
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 5: go with the stripes on the shoulder. I like the

980
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 5: stripes on the sleeve that they wore, like say Mike

981
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 5: Haynes seventy eight. Yeah, Yeah, I loved.

982
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: I think the thing is ever since the League went

983
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: to Nike, like Nike makes such a clean jersey that

984
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 3: the Royal like they won't mess up the Royal blues.

985
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: It's like the Eagles are bringing back the light greens,

986
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: like Kelly. Yeah, Like like Nike's going to make that

987
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: look unbelievable. And I think they could work some magic

988
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: with the Royal Blues. That's my take on.

989
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 5: I mean, we'll see, we'll see what they end up doing.

990
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 5: I mean I would be surprised if at least the

991
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 5: part that Bab said about the throwback uniforms. I think

992
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 5: that's something that you can probably bank on at some point,

993
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 5: just because I think that's the way the league is

994
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 5: trending to see that all the time. Again, I'm not

995
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 5: announcing anything on the show because I haven't seen anybody

996
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 5: within the Patriots organization state that on the record or definitively,

997
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 5: so I just go I'm just going by the pass,

998
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 5: you know, Like I think they've won the red a

999
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 5: little bit and I wouldn't be surprised to see that continue.

1000
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really love their current uniforms either. I

1001
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: would be okay with seeing a full change, to be

1002
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 4: honest with you, but I do. I'm a sucker for

1003
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 4: the nostalgia, Like I really like doing the throwback weeks,

1004
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: and I don't mind if these are the uniforms that

1005
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: they're stuck with for the next handful of years.

1006
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 5: I'll watch any time from seventy eight, Like all the

1007
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 5: uniforms are on the League. It's like, you know, Cleveland

1008
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 5: used to have those brown shirts with the orange pants,

1009
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 5: Like I loved that.

1010
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: Look, he's a question. So the aren't home jerseys pretty

1011
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 3: much just the color rush from a couple of years ago, right?

1012
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 4: The blueberries?

1013
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the blueberry it's bad. Okay. Well, here's the thing.

1014
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: Back in twenty sixteen or whatever, when they debuted them

1015
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: against the Texans, did you like them then?

1016
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 4: So this is my point. I yes, And this is

1017
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: my point with the pat Patriot jersey is that if

1018
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: you if you make that the default jersey, it's no

1019
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: longer Yeah, it's no longer cool, Like, it's no longer

1020
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 4: an individual throwback week type of thing, and now all

1021
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 4: of a sudden it becomes a permanent thing. It doesn't

1022
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 4: have the same mistique to it. So I think that

1023
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 4: that's why I wouldn't want to change back to like

1024
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 4: jerseys that they've worn in the past, is because it

1025
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 4: may it doesn't. It's not special anymore if you're wearing

1026
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: them everywhere.

1027
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: Agree with you?

1028
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 5: So, like, do you think San Diego, I'm sorry the

1029
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 5: Chargers fall into that trap where the powder well, like,

1030
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 5: they have a lot of different content. I'm sure you

1031
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: love that.

1032
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: I think their navy ones are the best they wear.

1033
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 4: They we have the best jersey collection in football.

1034
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they have like greeners are different combinations

1035
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 5: that I like. That's that's the best in the league.

1036
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 5: That's that's the second best in the LEA. That's the

1037
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: third best in the league.

1038
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: You know, I just want I just want some variety,

1039
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 3: you know, wake up on a Sunday like, oh, they're

1040
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 3: wearing great pants. There you go, just something all I want.

1041
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 5: Well, we'll see.

1042
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 4: Doesn't seem likely.

1043
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 3: Oh no, not at all.

1044
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 4: All right, more emails?

1045
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get another email.

1046
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 4: All right, So this is from Steven. We've heard Belichick

1047
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: talk about how the coverage and pass rush work in tandem.

1048
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: Pass rush, that's that's tough to say, compliment each other.

1049
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: Good coverage, it's a sass. Good pass rush heads to

1050
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: I t's Is it the same with pass pro in receivers?

1051
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: What I mean is, if our tackle situation doesn't get

1052
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: better at the top and with depth, would in d

1053
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: hop a guy who has always open due to his

1054
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 4: hands as a safety valve for Mac one of the

1055
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 4: best things we could do. So basically, he's saying, would

1056
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 4: Hopkins also help make the tackles or the offensive line

1057
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 4: less of a concern.

1058
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,959
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to defer to you on this one

1059
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 5: specifically because as you said earlier, you've been geeking out

1060
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 5: on old Texans tape with with Hopkins. Is he a

1061
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 5: guy that uncovers immediately?

1062
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I don't know. I think that the emailers right,

1063
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 4: and that he's one of those guys that's often always

1064
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 4: open even if he doesn't look open because of his

1065
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: catch rad he totally in with that. I don't know

1066
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: if he's necessarily like an electric like off the line

1067
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 4: separator that does that, but I think the main point

1068
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: of there being other elements that contribute to pass protection

1069
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 4: is definitely true. I mean, we saw with Brady with

1070
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 4: the release, right, like if you have a quick release,

1071
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: you can really eliminate a pass rush. If you stay

1072
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 4: at certain depths of the pocket and kind of protect

1073
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: yourself within the pocket, you can really help out your

1074
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 4: tackles in your offensive line that way as well. I

1075
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: think this is the one thing that Patrick Mahomes sometimes

1076
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 4: does get knocked for is that he'll drop to thirteen

1077
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 4: fourteen yards, which is really difficult.

1078
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 5: He's taken a lot of criticism from that within his

1079
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 5: own team, you know, and when I say criticisan, not

1080
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 5: like they hate him, but they've talked about that a

1081
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 5: couple of years ago with a lot of the problems

1082
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 5: that he creates on his own because he's holding the ball,

1083
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 5: He's retreating a lot of RPOs that you know, sometimes

1084
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 5: it can be difficult, you know, the passes, plays that

1085
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: are meant the balls meant to come out quickly, and

1086
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 5: he holds it, you know, like that that can come

1087
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 5: into play too. And that's why I think, and I

1088
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 5: know Evans talked about this tease with Bill O'Brien. You

1089
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 5: hope that you have a better design and maybe he

1090
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 5: can help you cover up for your problems right now

1091
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 5: at tackle with his scheme and just you know, get

1092
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 5: the ball out quick because we know we're going to

1093
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 5: be under pressure.

1094
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1095
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that I'm a big proponent for sacks

1096
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 4: are as much a quarterback stat as they are an

1097
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 4: offensive line stat, and maybe as much a scheme stat,

1098
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: and some degree as well as they are an offensive

1099
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: line stat, because you can really there's helping your offensive

1100
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 4: line and there's really not helping your offensive line when

1101
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: it comes to passing the football. And I think one

1102
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 4: of the things that you always hear with with Brady

1103
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 4: is not only did you know the depth that he

1104
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 4: was dropping to, you also knew where he was going

1105
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 4: to be because he's not mobile, so he's always going

1106
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: to be sort of in the center of the pocket,

1107
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 4: whereas with the guy you know that does move around

1108
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: back there, it's unpredictable. It's difficult to know exactly where

1109
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: he's going to be at all times. So they're guys

1110
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 4: like that Mahomes, you know, Russell Wilson. Over the years,

1111
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: those guys take a lot of sacks. They take a

1112
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 4: lot of sacks just because of the way that they

1113
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 4: play the game. So I think that in It's all

1114
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 4: works together, it's a conjunction of everything that that sacks

1115
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 4: become more of an offense.

1116
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 5: As Fred says, apropos of nothing, I'm curious to see

1117
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 5: what Russell Wilson.

1118
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: Looks like this shit. I was thinking the exact same point.

1119
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I hear some reports out of Denver

1120
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 5: that he shed some.

1121
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: LB's reports that Peyton doesn't really want himself.

1122
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, but just with the fact that he's there though

1123
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 5: he's he's a pretty good offensive code. That's offense.

1124
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: It's the game. I'm sneakily excited for I think it's

1125
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 3: gonna be a good one.

1126
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm curious to see what he looks like. And

1127
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 5: is he completely washed cashed like you know, or is

1128
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 5: he does he does he have something left? A big

1129
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 5: season for him. Let's get back to the phones because

1130
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 5: as I said that, we weren't getting a lot of calls.

1131
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 5: There you go, our boys have come through. Jesse is

1132
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 5: in New Bedford, so we'll take him first. Will take

1133
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 5: him first? Hey, Jesse, what's going on?

1134
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 7: What's going on?

1135
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 9: Quick?

1136
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 7: Thing? Beautiforms? I like him, but I think I don't

1137
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 7: know if Evan said it. I like the blue with

1138
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 7: the white pants. I don't know who said that, but

1139
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 7: that brings out the blue. It's not so much. I

1140
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 7: think just go with that and maybe like a couple

1141
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 7: of games a year, go with like the white helmets,

1142
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 7: but with the new logo.

1143
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 5: That's Fred Stan. Yeah, that's Fred's thing. He wants the

1144
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 5: elvis with the white helmet.

1145
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 3: Can you do that'?

1146
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? There are limitations lead the.

1147
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 7: Blue jersey with the white pants. And then because when

1148
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 7: it's the white jersey with the blue pants, I think

1149
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 7: it looks good. You got to offset the colors there.

1150
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 7: So that's my opinion with that. My second opinion is

1151
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people, uh, the narrative on

1152
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 7: Mac is a rookie year, he was you know, you know,

1153
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 7: look at this guy, he's had a great rookie year.

1154
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 7: You know this and that, And I kind of compare

1155
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 7: it to Trevor Lawrence because everybody was saying he was

1156
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 7: a bust his rookie year. But why was he a

1157
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 7: bus because he had Urban Meyer and the clown show

1158
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 7: and that's what Mac had this year. So if you

1159
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 7: reverse the years, you put the Patricia year as max rookie,

1160
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 7: then he put max rookie with this year, what would

1161
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 7: be what would everybody be talking about the same thing

1162
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 7: that the narrative for Trevor Lawrence is our local Lawrence

1163
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 7: did with was a legit coaching system. I think would

1164
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 7: be he's saying the same thing with Mac. He had

1165
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 7: a boso for a coach his rookie year, and now

1166
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 7: look at him. He's got Bill O'Brien. He's coming along.

1167
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 7: Twenty three touchdowns, eleven picks or whatever it was, thirteen,

1168
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 7: you know, he's coming along. He's make that turn. He

1169
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 7: made a little leap and I think he's gonna make

1170
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 7: a big leap. So all I'm trying to say is

1171
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 7: if he reverse the years, I think the narrative would

1172
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 7: be a lot different on Mac. In my personal opinion,

1173
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna absolutely light it up this year

1174
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 7: and a lot of people are going to be eating

1175
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 7: a lot of crawl. I think he's gonna really really

1176
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 7: tear it off. What you guys think, Mac Jones all

1177
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 7: the way.

1178
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 5: Hi, Jesse, I'm gonna just a good call.

1179
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's.

1180
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 5: Listen, I love it. Drop the hend there's a lot listen,

1181
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 5: there's a lot of enthusiasm. I think that's great. I

1182
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 5: would just look at it and say, like, what game

1183
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 5: did Mac Jones come from like twenty eight down to

1184
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 5: win when he was when he was a rookie, when

1185
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 5: he had when he had the Trevor Lawrence season, What

1186
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 5: game did he come from behind and you know, score

1187
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 5: like two touchdowns in the last five minutes to get

1188
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 5: a game to overtime against the Cowboys? Like I didn't

1189
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 5: see that. I didn't see that kind of stuff. So yeah,

1190
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: there's some similarities with Trevor Lawrence was I don't think

1191
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 5: anybody considered him a bust but Trevor Lawrence was disappointing

1192
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 5: his rookie year with a train wreck of a coaching staff,

1193
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 5: and he was much better in year two. I think

1194
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 5: with an average coaching staff. I'm sorry, Like he didn't

1195
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 5: have Bill Belichick. He had Doug Peterson, good quarterbacks coach.

1196
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 4: Though.

1197
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 5: Listen, he won a Super Bowl. He beat the Patriots

1198
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl, so I can't take that away.

1199
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 5: He made Carson Wentz and Nick Foles. I can't take

1200
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 5: that away from him. But I just think that what

1201
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence did last year, to me, and maybe it's

1202
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 5: because you're gonna call me negative, I think was vastly superior.

1203
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 4: We're gon we're gonna go from now on. No, I

1204
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 4: think that you have to. So I actually got a

1205
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: DM about this a couple of days ago too, and

1206
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: he did a statistical side by side.

1207
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 5: I saw the statistical side by side between Mac Jones

1208
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 5: and Josh Allen. Oh after two years, so this is

1209
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 5: all the passing numbers are the same, and the guy

1210
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 5: goes the only thing that Josh Allen is better at

1211
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 5: is running, and I'm like, oh, that's all yeah, not

1212
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 5: like that.

1213
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: Okay, this was this was Trevor versus Mac. And so

1214
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence is in his first two years his td

1215
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 4: DI in t ratio thirty seven to twenty five, and

1216
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: Max is thirty six to twenty four, so pretty much

1217
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 4: almost identical. And so I wouldn't might you know, you

1218
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 4: go down the line here, Lawrence hasn't beat in passing

1219
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 4: yards total yards. Mac is better completion percentage. MAC has

1220
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 4: a slightly better passer rating. But they're all right in

1221
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 4: the same ballpark. So I understand where people are coming

1222
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 4: from with the stats. But you got to use your

1223
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 4: eyes a little bit too, watch the game, right, and

1224
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: you got to realize, I'm not trying to crap all

1225
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 4: over Mac, because I think Mac can still be a good,

1226
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 4: solid NFL starting quarterback. But the two things that Trevor

1227
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 4: are won just physically, it's not close, like there are

1228
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: two different planets in terms of.

1229
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 5: How Jack'sville won some of their games. Yeah, and show

1230
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,959
Speaker 5: me the games that the Patriots won that way.

1231
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. I would also say Trevor Lawrence coming into the

1232
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 4: league was as sure of a prospect as any quarterback

1233
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: since basically Andrew Luck right, And there was a reason

1234
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 4: for that, Like there was a reason why there Nobody,

1235
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 4: not a soul questioned that Trevor Lawren should go number

1236
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 4: one overall in that draft. Nobody where the conversation started.

1237
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 4: Where right after Trevor Lawrence, like Zach Wilson, Trey Lance

1238
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: Fields and Mac. So. I don't think the Lawrence comparison

1239
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: is a good one because I think Trevor Lawrence is

1240
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: a much much better physical player, Like he's just a

1241
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 4: tool more toolsy thrower, a better athlete. But say nothing

1242
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 4: of you don't think there's a difference between Jacksonville, Yeah

1243
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 4: and New England. Yeah.

1244
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 5: New England has been the pre eminent program in the

1245
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 5: NFL for twenty plus years and Jacksonville is still kind

1246
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 5: of an expansion team. That's how people think of him,

1247
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 5: and that's what they've been. They have a couple of,

1248
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 5: you know, little bumps where they you know, like was

1249
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 5: it seventeen that they had us beat in the AC

1250
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 5: Championship game? Right? I mean yeah, every once in a

1251
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 5: while they put a good team on the field. It's

1252
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 5: still Jacksonville. Yeah, you're not comparing the two, are you.

1253
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 4: I just I can't. I can't get to the Lawrence

1254
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 4: Mac comparisons because maybe it is just my priors, Like

1255
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: maybe it is just how I felt coming into that

1256
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 4: draft about the two guys, but to me, one of

1257
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 4: them has so much more physical upside than the other.

1258
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 4: And I hope that Mac proves me wrong in that department.

1259
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 4: I think Mac can be a fringe top ten quarterback

1260
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 4: like a Kirk Cousins, but I hope he proves me wrong.

1261
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 4: I hope that he goes out there and shows me

1262
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 4: physically that he can be even better than that.

1263
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I just feel like I know that he

1264
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 5: sort of dismissed this part of it. Jesse dismissed this

1265
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 5: part of it. But yeah, it's better to be blah

1266
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 5: as a rookie and improve a second year guy then

1267
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 5: it is to be black as a roopeat and go

1268
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 5: down as a second year. Like, yeah, you would think

1269
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 5: of it different if he had the better year in

1270
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 5: year two, because that's the progression.

1271
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I still think we harke him back to

1272
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 4: year one, and we still say when it was competent

1273
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 4: around him and he had Josh McDaniels and he had

1274
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 4: enough around him playmaker wise and a good coordinator, he

1275
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 4: was fine. Like I still think we do.

1276
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 5: That, and I think he'll be fine this year for this.

1277
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 3: For those reasons, That's why I want to see some

1278
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: structure because Trevor Lawrence going into year two of Doug Peterson,

1279
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: Like we need Mac Jones to get two years of

1280
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator. You don't want to end up like

1281
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 3: Alex Smith ten years ago where he had what like

1282
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: four different coordinators, Like you can't you can't set your

1283
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: quarterback up for success with that system.

1284
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, and also I want to I'm not like

1285
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 4: all in on Trevor Lawrence yet either, Like I think

1286
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 4: I think he had a great year last year. The

1287
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 4: playoff game was certainly a really good It was.

1288
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 5: A good bounce back. He'd throw four pitance you know.

1289
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm not saying that I think Trevor Lawrence

1290
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 4: is like this great, all time great yet either. You know,

1291
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 4: he's still got a ways to go to until he

1292
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: proves that he's got a He has thrown a lot

1293
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 4: of interceptions in a lot of big games. Yeah, and

1294
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: it has had some moments down stretches and games that

1295
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 4: have been close to where he hasn't been you know,

1296
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 4: nails like he was in that playoff game.

1297
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Matt, let's get back to the phone.

1298
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 3: Lines.

1299
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 5: We got Dan in Virginia in Michigan, don't forget Michigan Dan, I.

1300
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 12: Thank as well with the pole filling a little vulnerable,

1301
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 12: being called a curmudgeon and all by uh by.

1302
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 5: Believe me, if that was the worst I was called,

1303
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 5: I'd be doing all right.

1304
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 12: The correct term is great white snog, of course correct.

1305
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 12: And the lack of goals, I thought I'd just trying

1306
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 12: to make poles a little better.

1307
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1308
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 12: Uh I got two questions with Hopkins available, Yeah, I

1309
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 12: might be a bit negative here, but is anyone concerned

1310
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 12: that the fact that he is of like that you

1311
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 12: know that he isn't going to be everything that the

1312
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 12: fan base is hoping for.

1313
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 4: A little surprised. I'm a little surprised by that, but

1314
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 4: I still want him.

1315
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 12: Yeah, how does he run?

1316
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 7: Blocking?

1317
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 5: Know, Paul, that is too share.

1318
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 12: But the other question I have is the Patriots are

1319
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 12: gonna have a big to do for Brady that first

1320
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 12: week of the season. And I know Paul's probably going

1321
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 12: to say that any quarterback that's affected by this he

1322
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 12: doesn't want anyway, But is it the wisest timing to

1323
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 12: have that big Brady shindig the first week of the season.

1324
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 12: You know, Max, who is kind of coming back from

1325
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 12: this sub past season, confidence might be a little dented.

1326
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 12: Do you really want the greatest of all time you

1327
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 12: know there that first week rather than kind of maybe

1328
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 12: letting Max find his get that confidence back a little

1329
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 12: bit first, before you know, you bring you bring the

1330
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 12: goat to down?

1331
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 5: What do you guys think of that?

1332
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 4: I don't love Brady coming during a game. I don't

1333
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: love it.

1334
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 3: I love him coming back. I hate that it's week one.

1335
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: I wish it was like last year. Yeah, it's just tough.

1336
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if I necessarily if he has to

1337
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: do it. I don't mind it being week one, because

1338
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 4: I think even worse than that would be if he

1339
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 4: comes back and they're like two and ten and he's

1340
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 4: they're just matching them out there for the well.

1341
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 5: At least that wouldn't affect anything. But what if you're like,

1342
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 5: you know, four and two, and he comes back and

1343
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 5: it throws them for a loop and you lose a game.

1344
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 4: To a either Washington. I don't know, I play a team.

1345
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 4: I know I went, I went, I went negative on

1346
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 4: that one and said two and ten. Paul's right, they

1347
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 4: could be five and one and all of a sudden,

1348
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 4: Brady comes and it's the circus and it throws them

1349
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 4: through a loop. I don't think there would be a

1350
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 4: great time for him to come back in season, which

1351
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 4: is why I'm not a huge fan of it being

1352
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 4: in season. I totally understand why we're doing it as

1353
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 4: an organization and as as as you know, a team,

1354
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 4: why we'd want it, But I don't. I don't love

1355
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 4: it for multiple reasons. And I just there's such a

1356
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 4: and you know, I listened to to Paul's shows and

1357
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 4: and and you hear these people call there more than here.

1358
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 4: I would say, there's still so many fans that are

1359
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 4: bitter over him leaving in the first place, that I

1360
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 4: just I just don't love the optics of like what

1361
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 4: Matista was kind of saying, You're playing the defending NFC champions.

1362
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 4: It's week one of the season. Everybody always puts a

1363
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 4: little bit into Week one, right How do they look

1364
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 4: right out of the gate if they then go on

1365
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 4: the field and get to waxed by the Eagles, who

1366
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 4: are just a better team than you right now? Anyways,

1367
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 4: that's it's gonna I don't know, it's a lot.

1368
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 5: I was kind of I don't really feel all that

1369
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 5: passionately either way about it. But you guys are making

1370
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 5: good points. Damn you want you want over the the crowd.

1371
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 12: It's also surprising, like from a business point of view,

1372
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 12: you know everyone's gonna be there for the game anyway,

1373
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 12: if you have a separate thing, you know, like they.

1374
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 5: Do the whole that That's a point I brought up.

1375
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 5: That's a point I brought up in a meeting and

1376
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 5: I was summarily told.

1377
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,959
Speaker 4: To keep quiet. What was the point?

1378
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 5: Like the opener can't get any bigger, right, And I like,

1379
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 5: to me, it's kind of like wasting you know, the

1380
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 5: Brady I guess, but I think that they kind of

1381
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 5: felt like it was the best in terms of the logistics.

1382
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. And I know that they've done

1383
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: this with other like Edelman had his his halftime like

1384
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 4: send off, and they've done this with the other great

1385
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 4: Patriots in the past where they give them that eight

1386
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 4: minutes at halftime to to wave to the crowd and

1387
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 4: everything like that. So I I understand that, I say,

1388
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 4: you know.

1389
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 5: But why, But why did it have to be the opener?

1390
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 5: Is I think dance point like if you do it

1391
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 5: in you know, even if you did a week two

1392
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 5: in the Sunday night game against Miami, like that opener

1393
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 5: is already you know, yeah, she's the ticket holders aren't

1394
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 5: giving away their opener tickets, you know, like it's juice anyway.

1395
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 4: I just also like you know more about it, Paul,

1396
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 4: because you're you're invited to the to the meetings where

1397
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 4: they talk about these things. Yes, that's very important, yes,

1398
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 4: uh uh, And I'm to sit in the back and

1399
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 4: keep quiet. It also is just kind of weird to

1400
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 4: me that like they're bringing him out in week one

1401
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 4: to like wave to the crowd, and there's no, it's

1402
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 4: not a jersey retirement, it's not an induction into the

1403
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 4: Patriots Hall of Fame. It's just he's here, like, you know,

1404
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 4: in that part of it, I didn't like. I just

1405
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what the purpose of

1406
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 4: that is. I guess I will just say that there

1407
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 4: will be more.

1408
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 5: Who's honor? Yeah, all right, Dan, thanks, let's uh, you know,

1409
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 5: my food is here, so we have I want to

1410
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 5: clear the phone lines before I go and eat, so

1411
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 5: Paul and Vancouver Paulie won't be seeing him no more.

1412
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 13: Hey, boys, how you're doing today.

1413
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 8: You got your hard.

1414
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:50,439
Speaker 13: Hats on there.

1415
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got a lot. There's a lot of stuff

1416
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 5: going on here.

1417
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 13: I was like, I waited to get on the show

1418
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 13: here and I got this drill that buz in my

1419
01:07:59,160 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 13: ears or whatever.

1420
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 5: Oh you got to see you got to see Marine corps.

1421
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 5: Though he he storms out of the.

1422
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 14: The I could not find him.

1423
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 5: He's like looking, Whore's that noise coming from? Do you

1424
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 5: know how many different ways I have to kill you?

1425
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1426
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 8: It's quite ridiculous.

1427
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 15: All right.

1428
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 13: With all the talk about DeAndre Hopkins, I just want

1429
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 13: to ask you a couple of questions about the receiving

1430
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 13: corps as a whole, because I think the most successful

1431
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 13: ones have a range of quality, and many times in

1432
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 13: the show I hear this comment that the Pats have

1433
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 13: too many of the same types of receiver. So what

1434
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 13: is your ideal composition of the receiving corps? Like, you know,

1435
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 13: like you kind of think of it more like a

1436
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 13: basketball team. You get your point guard, you're power for

1437
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 13: small forward, right so you know, like I think we're

1438
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 13: kind of missing with that quick swat guy right now,

1439
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 13: you know, And so the question is, what is your

1440
01:08:54,960 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 13: ideal composition? How's that how's the current pack team compaired

1441
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 13: to that, and how do you think what you have

1442
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 13: it tight end affects that.

1443
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 4: I don't know if I necessarily think that they don't

1444
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 4: have complimentary receivers. I think when we say that they

1445
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 4: have the similar receivers, we're talking about like talent level. Well,

1446
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 4: you know, they have a bunch of like twos and

1447
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 4: threes and there's no number one in the group. Like,

1448
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 4: they do have some diversity in terms of skill sets,

1449
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 4: like DeVante Parker is your above the rim contested catch guy.

1450
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 4: You know, Juju is your power slot. Taekwan's your burner. Like,

1451
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 4: they do have a little bit different things that they

1452
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 4: do well. I think the only overlap is maybe like

1453
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne and Juju or are somewhat similar.

1454
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 3: I think you want what you're saying is like I

1455
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 3: want what the Bengals have, what the Chargers have. You know,

1456
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 3: you got Jamar Chase and t Higgins on the one.

1457
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: On the other side, the Chargers have Keenan Allen, Mike Williams.

1458
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 3: Like you need that one stug guy and then the

1459
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 3: shifty guy slot.

1460
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 5: I'd like a burner with some size, not a not

1461
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 5: a just a small like aj Brown, Yeah, a burner

1462
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 5: with some size and then maybe more of a possession

1463
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 5: guy on the outs. Yeah, and then you know, you know,

1464
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 5: a good quality slot guy. It doesn't have to be

1465
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 5: like the small, shifty slot guy like I think Tyler

1466
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 5: Boyd has been a really good slot receiver for a

1467
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 5: long time. Now he's on the back nine. I think

1468
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 5: he's sort of the declining, which is great for him

1469
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 5: to be with those two dynamic guys on the outside.

1470
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 5: But I do kind of look at Cincinnati now, three

1471
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 5: really good players, like but I do think they have

1472
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 5: different skill sets, you know, and Higgins has the size,

1473
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 5: contested catchability and speed, whereas Chase does everything and you know,

1474
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 5: and I think Boyd is just a really steady guy.

1475
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 5: And they had the other guy that filled in a

1476
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 5: little bit, the guy with the hair, but he made

1477
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 5: he made some plays for them, you know, down to

1478
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 5: stretch opportunities.

1479
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 4: They just they just drafted one of the one of

1480
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 4: the guys I liked in the draft a lot. And

1481
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 4: now Charlie Jones. They drafted Charlie Jones Jones, so he's

1482
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 4: the next Tyler Boyd, I would assume for them running.

1483
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: I really like Tyler Boyd coming out of pit too. Yeah, no,

1484
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 4: they they I mean I thought the Patriots would be

1485
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 4: on him. The Bengals have a great receiver room. They

1486
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 4: definitely an argument that they're the best receiving room in

1487
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 4: the in the league. And you also kind of describe Philadelphia,

1488
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 4: I guess a little bit with AJ Brown and Devalte

1489
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: Smith and Goddard kind of being more of the middle

1490
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 4: of the field guy.

1491
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 5: And I would say Paul Evan makes a good point

1492
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 5: with the tight end. I would add, you know, a mobile,

1493
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 5: you know, pass catching tight end into that mix. Now,

1494
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 5: obviously that's what makes the best offense is the best.

1495
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, the balance, but more of.

1496
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 5: Those things that one offense has becomes awfully difficult to stop. Yeah.

1497
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 4: I think that the Patriots have or decently diverse in

1498
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 4: their skill sets, but they just don't, like we always say,

1499
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 4: they don't have the AJ Brown, they don't have the

1500
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase. They don't have that guy. And I think

1501
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 4: you know that that's the hope is that if you

1502
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 4: get Opkins, that he can at least be that guy

1503
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 4: in the short term. He's not going to be a

1504
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 4: long term solution for that problem, but maybe he will

1505
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 4: be in the short term.

1506
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 5: All right, fat guy's going to eat so so uh hey,

1507
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 5: look at that. We went one twelve cruise all football,

1508
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 5: one twelve all football, so we'll have plenty of time

1509
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:07,679
Speaker 5: for nonsense after I eat.

1510
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 14: Verizon, the network America relies on, and the official five

1511
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 14: G network of the New England Patriots.

1512
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,560
Speaker 16: Patriot Place is the region's number one shopping, dining and

1513
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 16: entertainment destination. Shop your favorites including Vineyard, Vines, Express, Fast,

1514
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 16: Pro Shops, Petco and more. Enjoy dining at one of

1515
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 16: our nineteen restaurants, including six Streen Grill and Stage, Scorpion

1516
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 16: Bar and Bar Louis, And don't forget about the entertainment.

1517
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 16: Explore your inner artist at Newspaint Bar, watch a movie

1518
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 16: at Showcase Cinema Deluxe, or grab a controller and start

1519
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 16: gaming at hewix Esports. For a complete directory listing, please

1520
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 16: visit Patriot dash Place dot com.

1521
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 17: How did Verizon build the fastest five G in the world.

1522
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 17: We started by building it right with five G ultra wideband.

1523
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 17: Then we gave it massive capacity and near zero lag.

1524
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 17: And it's not just fast, it's twenty five times faster

1525
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:58,440
Speaker 17: than today's.

1526
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 18: Four G networks.

1527
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 17: Is five G built right from the network. More people

1528
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 17: rely on only on Verizon five G Ultra wide band

1529
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 17: available only in parts of select cities. Global claim based

1530
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 17: on open signal independent analysis twenty five times analysis by

1531
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 17: ookluv'sp test intelligence date in Q two twenty.

1532
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 19: Twenty, when someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes,

1533
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 19: Oh No, replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture

1534
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 19: proof of delivery, everyone can focus on the perfect opening

1535
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 19: night FedEx where now meets next for residential delivery only

1536
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:30,919
Speaker 19: in sports.

1537
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 20: If you think joy only happens after you win, think again.

1538
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 20: Look at the world's most successful athletes like Serena Williams,

1539
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 20: Brooks Koepka, and Alex Morgan. They don't spend all their

1540
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 20: days grinding away. They take time to enjoy themselves, like

1541
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 20: getting together with friends over at michelob Ultra, because they

1542
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 20: know that happiness is the key to winning, and that

1543
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 20: joy is the whole game, not just the end game.

1544
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 20: Michelob Ultra ninety five calories, two point six grams of cars.

1545
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 20: It's only worth it if you enjoy it, enjoy responsibly.

1546
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 20: A b Michelot Ultra light Beer, Saint Louis, Missouri.

1547
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 21: Some people are never content with simply being good, not

1548
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 21: when they can be great. But it takes a big

1549
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 21: step to get there. In fact, it takes a leap

1550
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 21: of faith, a belief in what you're striving toward, and

1551
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 21: a willingness to make the commitment day in and day

1552
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 21: out to something bigger than yourself. Putnam is proud to

1553
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 21: partner with those who share their own commitment to performance excellence.

1554
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 21: This is Matt life for Putnam Investments a world of investing.

1555
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 15: There's no season better than football season, and there's no

1556
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 15: better place to get in on all of the action

1557
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 15: than with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy sports partner of

1558
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 15: the New England Patriots. To add to the thrill, DraftKings

1559
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 15: has millions of dollars in prizes up for grabs every week,

1560
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 15: so head to the app now and check it out

1561
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 15: if you haven't tried it yet. Fantasy football is easy

1562
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,759
Speaker 15: to play. Just pick nine players, stay under the salary cap,

1563
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 15: and pile up points for yards, touchdowns, options, and so

1564
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 15: much more. There's no better way to put your football

1565
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 15: knowledge to the test than to compete for a shot

1566
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 15: at one million dollars in total prizes. Download the DraftKings

1567
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 15: app now and use promo code pats to get a

1568
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 15: shot at millions of dollars in total prizes every week.

1569
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,879
Speaker 15: That's promo code pats to get a shot at millions

1570
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 15: of dollars in total prizes every week only at DraftKings.

1571
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 15: Eligibility restrictions apply. See DraftKings dot com for details.

1572
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 6: Patriots fans, you'll want to check out the replay on

1573
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 6: this one. Pat the Patriot is stealing the show tonight

1574
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,759
Speaker 6: with his Bank of America mobile banking app.

1575
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 14: That's right, folks, So here we see Pat cheering and

1576
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 14: then whammo, is that Bank of America life planned.

1577
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,879
Speaker 6: Looks like he's saving up for some big future moves,

1578
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 6: planning the next vakhum big guy.

1579
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 14: And wait, now he's paying back his buddy for concessions

1580
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 14: using zel no penalty there.

1581
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 18: Incredible, no way.

1582
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 6: As if that double move wasn't impressive enough, now he's

1583
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 6: beefing up his account defense with security meter. Holy kunolli,

1584
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 6: what a performance.

1585
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 14: Bank of America's digital tools are so impressive. Patriot fans

1586
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 14: just can't stop banking. Learn more at Bankofamerica dot com

1587
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 14: slash banking. You must be enrolled in online banking or

1588
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 14: download the latest version of the mobile banking app, only

1589
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 14: available on select mobile devices. Message and data rates may apply.

1590
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 14: Terms and conditions apply. Member FDIC.

1591
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 11: Want to get into the game, Get coached up at

1592
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 11: Dean College. Equipped with exclusive academic partnerships featuring the Patriots Revolution,

1593
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 11: Providence Ruins, Summer Baseball, and more. Our classrooms are set

1594
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 11: up for success by learning directly from the pros. Dean

1595
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 11: College has programs in communications, sports, management, business and marketing

1596
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 11: with unprecedented hands on experiences. Our students take what they

1597
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 11: learn in the classroom and put it right to work

1598
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 11: in the marketplace. At Dean College, our students don't just

1599
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 11: play games, we run them.

1600
01:16:58,400 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 18: Visit us at Dean Dot ed.

1601
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: Some of the content.

1602
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 14: Verizon, the network America relies on, and the official five

1603
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 14: G network of the New England Patriots.

1604
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 16: Patriot Place is the region's number one shopping, dining, and

1605
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 16: entertainment destination. Shop your favorites including Vineyard, Vines, Express, Fast,

1606
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 16: Pro Shops, Petco and more. Enjoy dining at one of

1607
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,560
Speaker 16: our nineteen restaurants including Six String, Grill and Stage, Scorpion

1608
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 16: Bar and Bar Louis, and don't forget about the entertainment.

1609
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 16: Explore your inner artist at Newspaint Bar, watch a movie

1610
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 16: at Showcase Cinema Deluxe, or grab a controller and start

1611
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 16: gaming at helix Esports. For a complete directory listening, please

1612
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 16: visit Patriot dash Place dot com.

1613
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 17: How did Verizon build the fastest five G in the world.

1614
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 17: We started by building it right with five G Ultra wideband.

1615
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 17: Then we gave it massive capacity and near zero lack.

1616
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 17: And it's not just fast, it's twenty five times faster

1617
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 17: than today's four G networks. This is five G built

1618
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 17: right from the network. More people rely on only on

1619
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 17: Verizon five G Ultra wide band available only in parts

1620
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 17: of select cities. Global claim based on open signal independent

1621
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 17: analysis twenty five times analysis by WHO Club's b test

1622
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 17: Intelligence date of Q two twenty twenty.

1623
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 19: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh No.

1624
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,839
Speaker 19: Replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1625
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 19: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1626
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 19: now means next for residential delivery only.

1627
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 20: In sports, If you think joy only happens after you win,

1628
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 20: think again. Look at the world's most successful athletes like

1629
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 20: Serena Williams, Brooks Koepka, and Alex Morgan. They don't spend

1630
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 20: all their days grinding away. They take time to enjoy themselves,

1631
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 20: like getting together with friends over at michelob Ultra, because

1632
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 20: they know that happiness is the key to winning, and

1633
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 20: that joy is the whole game, not just the endgame.

1634
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 20: Michelob Ultra ninety five calories, two point six grams of cars.

1635
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 20: It's only worth it if you enjoy it, enjoy responsibly

1636
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 20: a b michelob ultralight Bear, Saint Louis, Missouri.

1637
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 21: Some people or never contend with simply being good, not

1638
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 21: when they can be great. But it takes a big

1639
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 21: step to get there. In fact, it takes a leap

1640
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 21: of faith, a belief in what you're striving toward, and

1641
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 21: a willingness to make the commitment day in and day

1642
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 21: out to something bigger than yourself. Putnam is proud to

1643
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 21: partner with those who share their own commitment to performance excellence.

1644
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 21: This is Matt life for Putnam Investments a world of investing.

1645
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 15: There's no season better than football season, and there's no

1646
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 15: better place to get in on all of the action

1647
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 15: than with DraftKings, the official daily fantasy sports partner of

1648
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,520
Speaker 15: the New England Patriots. To add to the thrill, DraftKings

1649
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 15: has millions of dollars in prizes up for grabs every week,

1650
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 15: so head to the app now and check it out

1651
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,839
Speaker 15: if you haven't tried it yet. Fantasy football is easy

1652
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 15: to play. Just pick nine players, stay under the salary cap,

1653
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 15: and pile up points for yards, touchdowns, receptions, and.

1654
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 3: So much more.

1655
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 15: There's no better way to put your football knowledge to

1656
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 15: the test than to compete for a shot at one

1657
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 15: million dollars in total prizes. Download the Draft Kings app

1658
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 15: now and use promo code pats to get a shot

1659
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 15: at millions of dollars in total prizes every week. That's

1660
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 15: promo code pats to get a shot at millions of

1661
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 15: dollars in total prizes every week only at Draft Kings.

1662
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 15: Eligibility restrictions apply. See DraftKings dot com for details. And

1663
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 15: Now great moments in.

1664
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: History.

1665
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: The logic behind where they stock face The mayonnaise should

1666
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: be by the tuna. Okay, Jerry, all right, you can

1667
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: have another section with mayonnaires, but also put it by

1668
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 2: the tuna.

1669
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 4: I agree.

1670
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 14: There should be hot dog buns by there, but you

1671
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 14: have to go all the way.

1672
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, but you have to go all the way to

1673
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 11: the breadile hot dogs and.

1674
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 5: Now just that stuff.

1675
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: Because I like, I guess if you go in and

1676
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: you do big shops, Okay, you're going up and down

1677
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: in the aisle, just get a couple of things.

1678
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 5: Then you don't go to a supermarket, go to a

1679
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 5: seven eleven, go to a convenience.

1680
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 2: Are gonna have a little hot dogs at seven eleven?

1681
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 5: Yes, it's the same package of hot dogs at seven eleven.

1682
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 4: Check the expiration date?

1683
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 5: Charge him expose I would expired. I mean, if you

1684
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 5: don't change inspiration date, that's on.

1685
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: You because they're sitting in there for a while.

1686
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 5: So then you don't buy it.

1687
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: You don't go grocery shopping at seven eleven. You go

1688
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: in there to get a cit Did he just change?

1689
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 5: Did he just do it? Did he just do pack

1690
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 5: a cigarette? Just jack? Did he just change? The argument?

1691
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 5: And typical Fred fashion.

1692
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:50,879
Speaker 21: That's another great moment from.

1693
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of those that come back.

1694
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 5: And I hear myself in an argument and I and

1695
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 5: I cringe, and I was like, what aude, what a

1696
01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 5: sanctimonious jerk? Like about myself? I think, Wow, could you

1697
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 5: have sounded any more arrogant? Or could you have been

1698
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 5: any more like snarky. And then I hear that one,

1699
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 5: and I'm like, if you just need like a couple

1700
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 5: of things, why wouldn't you just stop on a seven eleven?

1701
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 5: And then he goes, why would you do your grocery

1702
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 5: shopping at seven eleven? I never said that. I like

1703
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 5: literally never said, Oh, I have a list of thirty

1704
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 5: seven things, I'm going to go to seven eleven and

1705
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 5: pay ten times as much for them at the convenience

1706
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 5: store than I would at stop and shop.

1707
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've been doing some some cookouts lately, been

1708
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 4: on the grill and get doing my my dad thing

1709
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 4: and uh, we have a market basket, like one of

1710
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 4: those big giant market baskets right down the street, and

1711
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 4: you know sometimes like we need to we need hot

1712
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 4: dogs or a macaroni salad, whatever, like you're just missing

1713
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 4: a couple of things for the cookout. And I go

1714
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 4: into a market basket on like a Sunday afternoon. I

1715
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 4: almost didn't get out alive. I was like, what am I?

1716
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 4: What am I doing here? Like this is I just

1717
01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 4: went in for like three things. It was like hot dogs, uh,

1718
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 4: some macaroni salad. And then because I obviously too, I

1719
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:05,919
Speaker 4: was looking for some dessert also right like three things,

1720
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 4: and I literally walked into like you would think that

1721
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 4: the apocalypse was coming or something like that. And so

1722
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 4: to that point, next time, I might just go to

1723
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 4: like the seven eleven down the street if.

1724
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 5: You if you just like you had everything that you

1725
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 5: needed but you forgot catch up or you know, Hamburger. Yeah,

1726
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 5: I wouldn't go in and say, well, geez, these Hamburger rolls.

1727
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 5: I mean the green but you know what, what's the

1728
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 5: obviously you look at the expiration date.

1729
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: I got seven eleven right across the street from me

1730
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 3: and has a liquor store in it, So I mean,

1731
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 3: I spend way too much money there, but that's my spot.

1732
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 3: I'll buy whatever they need, whatever they got there.

1733
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 5: But Fred he just that mark. Everything's got to be

1734
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 5: high end.

1735
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 4: So everything's as a Wegman's Whole Foods guy. You know

1736
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 4: that that next that next tier up.

1737
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 5: He is funny though he has his He has his quirks,

1738
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 5: as as do we all.

1739
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 4: True.

1740
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 5: All right, Matt, you ready, I don't want to throw

1741
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 5: you off guard like I did catch you off god,

1742
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 5: like I did before the break. So Brian and Saint

1743
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 5: Louis looks like he's been holding the longest, so we'll

1744
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 5: go with him.

1745
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 8: Hey, you ready for me?

1746
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

1747
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 9: Oh fantastic.

1748
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 22: So Hey, I called in.

1749
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 9: I called him last time, and I thank you for

1750
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 9: the thoughts that you had on the development of Tom

1751
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 9: Brady over time, and that that was intriguing. I wanted

1752
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 9: to add something to the conversation.

1753
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 22: That may help to add some fullness to the picture

1754
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 22: and also give us an understanding of how we might

1755
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 22: see the.

1756
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 9: Development of mac choums.

1757
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 22: So first, there's I think about I think about the

1758
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 22: playoff game for Tom Brady and the Patriots the second year.

1759
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 22: I think it was the visual round against the Stealers,

1760
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 22: and I.

1761
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 23: Remember Tom Brady could not make a touchdown throw off

1762
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 23: to the side.

1763
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 8: And I don't know, I don't know, my memory somewhat big.

1764
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 10: I don't know if he was injured or whatever the

1765
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 10: case was. Drew Bledsoe comes in, he makes the pass.

1766
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 22: And if I remember correctly, this is what allows the

1767
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 22: Patriots to win the game, right.

1768
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 7: Am I right?

1769
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 5: Well, it's a little I mean, you're a little simplistic,

1770
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 5: even even speaking to the biggest Drew Bledsoe fan on

1771
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,799
Speaker 5: the planet. Tom got hurt. They didn't really do anything

1772
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 5: on offense in that game. With or without Tom, they

1773
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 5: were They had seven points on a punt return for

1774
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 5: a touchdown by by Troy Brown. When Tom left the

1775
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 5: game and then Drew came in. In the first drive,

1776
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 5: he lit it up. He went right down the field,

1777
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 5: I think he.

1778
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 4: I think he completed three passes, the third of which

1779
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 4: was a beautiful touchdown.

1780
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 5: To David Patton.

1781
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 4: But in the second half they didn't do a whole

1782
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,440
Speaker 4: lot offensively. They blocked a field goal for another touchdown,

1783
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 4: and then late in the game when the game was

1784
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 4: was getting close, he he did lead a big drive

1785
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 4: for a field goal that kind of sealed it. But statistically,

1786
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 4: I think Brady actually threw for a couple more yards

1787
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 4: than Bledsoe in that game, but either one of them

1788
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 4: did anything. So I pulled up through for like one

1789
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty yards or something like that, even though

1790
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 4: Paul just told me the box score. But yeah, Brady

1791
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 4: threw for one hundred and fifteen and Drew through for

1792
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 4: one hundred and two.

1793
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, So they didn't really have a lot in the

1794
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 5: way of offense. Now I would say they would not

1795
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 5: have to say that. They wouldn't have won the game

1796
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,719
Speaker 5: if Drew didn't come in, is I think a stretch. Again,

1797
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 5: I'm the biggest bledsoe supported there is. But he he

1798
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 5: did enough. He did enough to win the game. Right,

1799
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 5: he did enough to win a game.

1800
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 4: Right he threw in the second quarter.

1801
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did throw it touchdown pass. It was the

1802
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 5: first drive he came in.

1803
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 10: Kept trying to make this pass. It wasn't It wasn't happen.

1804
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 13: It wasn't happen.

1805
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 5: Well, Brady threw the same touchdown pass in the Super

1806
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 5: Bowl two weeks later, one week later. Actually, it was

1807
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 5: a very similar play.

1808
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 4: I think it might have been the same play.

1809
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 5: White fifty zing cry for I used.

1810
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 4: To well, he broke it down on Uh what was

1811
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 4: that quarterbacks thing that they used to do the Pro

1812
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 4: Bowl Quarterback Skill Challenge or whatever with the about Yeah,

1813
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 4: so they used to do a quarterback skill challenge. Brady

1814
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 4: was in it. He did terribly, which like isn't surprising

1815
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 4: because he's not you know, the guys that won it

1816
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 4: or you know, like yeah, like a Brett Farv or

1817
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 4: like you know, Cordell Stewart was always really good in

1818
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 4: it because he could add the cannon and Brady broke

1819
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 4: down the David Patton touchdown pass from the Super Bowl

1820
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 4: and like spelled out the whole play and all everything,

1821
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 4: all the reads, all that type of stuff, And it

1822
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 4: was like a segment that was like what's your favorite play,

1823
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 4: like if you know there's one player that you want

1824
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 4: them to call, and it was the touchdown to Patton,

1825
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 4: which was the same play that that true through.

1826
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 23: The dusty mm hmm okay, thank you, and a couple

1827
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 23: other things. Evan, that was a nice article that you

1828
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 23: wrote on potential breakout players and that that was especially

1829
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 23: the running backs. I appreciated the the the writing about

1830
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:24,560
Speaker 23: Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris and I wasn't too familiar

1831
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 23: with with Kevin Harrison and uh he he the clip

1832
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 23: that you put up there, You've got a lot of potential.

1833
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:32,600
Speaker 9: I was impressed.

1834
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1835
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 23: And lastly, and i'll take this one off the air,

1836
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 23: I'm glad you mentioned David Patten because.

1837
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 13: He was on my list.

1838
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 23: I think he is the most under rated, the most

1839
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 23: underrated wide receiver that the Patriots have had instead of

1840
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 23: in the time.

1841
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah Patton. Yeah, thanks for your phone's kind of in

1842
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 4: and out. But yeah, I think David Patten was a

1843
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 4: by the way, yes, but a very important part of

1844
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 4: those Super Bowl teams in the first part of the dynasty.

1845
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 5: I thought he made some big plays. Obviously he had

1846
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 5: that huge game in Indianapolis in O one, but just

1847
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 5: some plays that you remember, like those two touchdowns back

1848
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 5: to back weeks AFC Championship in Super Bowl. He was

1849
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 5: a really reliable guy. I think, very different style, but

1850
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 5: same kind of stature David Gibbons. I think Gibbons was

1851
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 5: a really important guy that somewhat gets overlooked. They weren't

1852
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 5: similar in style of David Patton could fly and David

1853
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 5: Gibbons was a possession receiver. But I do think they're

1854
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 5: sort of you know, you don't it's it's Troy Brown,

1855
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 5: it's Randy Moss, it's Wes Welker, it's you know, it's

1856
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 5: Julian Edelman.

1857
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 3: It's oh yeah, yeah.

1858
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 5: And then they had David Patton and David Gibbons too.

1859
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 5: Even Dion Branch, you know, dwarfed David Gibbons in terms

1860
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 5: of importance in memories.

1861
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, David Patton I always remember, just it wasn't you know.

1862
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 4: I think what he had, like eight hundred yards is

1863
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 4: like his biggest year with the Patriots, but just a

1864
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 4: reliable guy that played big and big games and stuff

1865
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 4: like that, just to one of those guys that you

1866
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,440
Speaker 4: just need when you're when you have Super Bowl aspirations

1867
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 4: like those Patriots teams did, maybe not a know one,

1868
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 4: but three oh four because one of those guys that

1869
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,839
Speaker 4: is just part of that, right that those big moments

1870
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 4: and a big time player in big moments. And I

1871
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 4: always like David Patten a lot. I think is a

1872
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 4: good Patriots.

1873
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 5: So in all the years Evan that you go out

1874
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 5: and you do training camp, yes, he has a smirk,

1875
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 5: he thinks I'm setting them up.

1876
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 3: Yes.

1877
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 5: So in all the years that you do training camp,

1878
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 5: do you ever go out and see a guy and

1879
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 5: I'm talking specifically like a wide receiver, but a player

1880
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 5: in general that you know very little to nothing about,

1881
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you just look and you

1882
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 5: say that that guy can play.

1883
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 4: He's he's pretty good.

1884
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 5: David Patton was that guy for me in that season.

1885
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 5: In the two thousand and one season, I was like,

1886
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 5: he's he's going to be good. I thought I thought

1887
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 5: Drew was going to throw bombs to him all year. No,

1888
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 5: obviously didn't work.

1889
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 4: Out that way, but I dreams did Yeah up here,

1890
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 4: you can't take it away any guys like that, and

1891
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta make this quick because we have

1892
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 4: his special special Guest. I don't know. I'm such a

1893
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 4: draft nerd that, like I I kind of know know

1894
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 4: everybody that that's no, I'm not saying that, I that

1895
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 4: I think I am right all the time about who's

1896
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 4: going to be good and who's not going to be good.

1897
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 4: I know, but I think that, you know, I just

1898
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 4: I do a lot of the prep work with the

1899
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 4: draft and stuff like that. But I think the one

1900
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 4: guy that that really I just wasn't sure if he

1901
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 4: was going to be anything for the Patriots at all

1902
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 4: in terms of NFL player was would probably be Jacobe Myers.

1903
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 4: Like I knew Jacoby, I knew, you know, I knew

1904
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 4: that he was productive at NC State. I knew that

1905
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 4: he had that Patriot but it was apparent immediate this

1906
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 4: guy can play. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah,

1907
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 4: all right, So the special Guest, I.

1908
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 5: Didn't think I could lose much more respect for for

1909
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 5: Mike do so, but I think I just did in

1910
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 5: Hawaii calling into a Patriots on a filtered show, What

1911
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 5: is it? Like seven o'clock, eight o'clocky.

1912
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 10: It's well, it is seven o'clock. But I gotta say

1913
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 10: I got up at h I got up at six

1914
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 10: am because you got to go to this this place

1915
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 10: called the cinnamon Roll Place, that's what it's literally called.

1916
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 10: So anybody who knows me got it bright and early,

1917
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 10: and there's already a line around the corner. So yeah,

1918
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 10: I was. I was digging into a giant cinnamon roll

1919
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 10: about the size of my head when Matisse reached out.

1920
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 10: So I'm happy to call in.

1921
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1922
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 5: I didn't know. I didn't know that Matisa reached out.

1923
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 3: I said, if he was up, he has to call it.

1924
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 5: So now now you're off the hook. Now you're not

1925
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 5: as big a louse.

1926
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 4: Is anybody more energetic than Deuce right now? And it's

1927
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 4: seven am? Where he is?

1928
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 5: Seven am?

1929
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 3: How many high names?

1930
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 2: Now?

1931
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 10: Well, it's that's the thing that's weird about Hawaii, Like

1932
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 10: everybody gets up early. And I don't know if that's

1933
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 10: just because everyone's on time change, but like that, we

1934
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 10: were driving over, We're driving to several places six forty five,

1935
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 10: and it's like, you know, people are out walking, walking,

1936
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 10: their kids running, I mean it's just packed already. So

1937
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 10: uh yeah, usually gets windy here too in Maui, So

1938
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 10: you got to get out early if you want to

1939
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 10: have a nice day.

1940
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 3: How many high news do you have?

1941
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 10: Oh, they were, they were, They were flowing last night.

1942
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 10: They were flowing last night, for sure. Uh it was fun.

1943
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:26,799
Speaker 10: We went on a we went on a little dolphins

1944
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 10: boat tour yesterday. Oh nice, which you know, for some

1945
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 10: of us was fun because we got to see uh

1946
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 10: some dolphins. But for some of a good bunjory not

1947
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,879
Speaker 10: no un stand majority, but a significant chunk of the population. Unfortunately,

1948
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 10: they paid for three hours of sea sickness and we're

1949
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 10: sitting in the bottom of the boat just throwing up

1950
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 10: the whole time.

1951
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 8: As we were driving out the dolphins, they like made.

1952
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 10: This announced it like, you know, it's gonna be a

1953
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 10: little bit rolla today. So if you do get sick,

1954
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 10: go for distance, go off the boat.

1955
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 13: Uh.

1956
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 8: But they were great.

1957
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 10: They brought everybody bluckus. I just I was laughing because

1958
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 10: like these four people probably thought they were going off

1959
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 10: to seat dolphins and and it said they just paid

1960
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 10: it to didn't look at the bucket on the bottom

1961
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 10: of the boat for three hours.

1962
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 5: So what's on what's on the doka today?

1963
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 10: Well, I think it's a low key day here, just

1964
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 10: kind of checking out some some beaches. I don't know.

1965
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 10: We don't really have anything planned today. It was just

1966
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 10: kind of nice. But yeah, we we we kind of

1967
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 10: yesterday it was a big planning day. So now it's

1968
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 10: been nice. I can't I can't believe I've been gone

1969
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 10: a week, but it feels like I've been gone a month.

1970
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 4: It just feels like a day or two for us.

1971
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you today it was the first day

1972
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 4: I missed you, and that was only because I had

1973
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 4: a host.

1974
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, PAULI, that's what what I figured

1975
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 10: when I called in, I heard I didn't hear the

1976
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 10: magical tone of thread there.

1977
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, Fred, we made tease come down. But uh,

1978
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 5: you know, we've actually, uh I have to give us

1979
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 5: a little bit of credit because I think we went

1980
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,839
Speaker 5: a whole hour plus just really all football.

1981
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,839
Speaker 4: We haven't even talked about traffic yet or anything that's

1982
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 4: coming though. Do give me give me a high and

1983
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 4: low so far of your of your vacation.

1984
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 10: Oh all right, that's a good one. Well, I would

1985
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 10: probably say the low was my oldest son, Tyson, unfortunately

1986
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 10: being one of the people that got a little se

1987
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:07,839
Speaker 10: stack yesterday.

1988
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 5: So that was I knew you. I knew that with

1989
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 5: that to be involved at some point. Uh you know

1990
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about.

1991
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 10: Both the kids had some struggles on the plane and

1992
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 10: you know, so it's just spent a little bit of

1993
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 10: a battle with all the travel we've been doing for them.

1994
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 10: But uh, but I just did a high point was

1995
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 10: like just finally getting here and we got off the

1996
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 10: boat and we went to we went to just an

1997
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 10: awesome launch and you know, just overlooking the water, and

1998
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 10: I mean it's just it's you know, it's a long

1999
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 10: flight to get to LA It's a long flight to

2000
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 10: get here. So when you finally got here, it was

2001
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 10: kind of nice. So yeah, we settled in. I'm I'm

2002
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 10: standing here looking out upon the Pacific Ocean right now.

2003
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 5: So now I'm gonna enjoy mine.

2004
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 10: I look forward to getting back and Paul, I'm glad

2005
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 10: to see you're on on that critical email to uh,

2006
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 10: you know, get some some evergreen moments for the for

2007
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 10: the team and you know, when the work doesn't stop here.

2008
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I bought that guy didn't notice how you like

2009
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 5: just sort of separated from me on the first On

2010
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 5: the first one, I was like, we we did all

2011
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 5: we talked about all these things, and then he just

2012
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 5: sends out an email like what what? What what happened was?

2013
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 5: So I ended up But believe I pulled that together

2014
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 5: for you, So don't worry about it. I didn't. Uh,

2015
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 5: I didn't cut you loose like you did me.

2016
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 10: I want to get the ball roll and I knew

2017
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 10: I could count on you.

2018
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2019
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 4: We got that meeting coming up at two, so yeah,

2020
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 4: you won't be there, so we got that to look

2021
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 4: forward to, which is not not entirely nice.

2022
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 10: So keep me posted, all right, So before.

2023
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 5: We let you go, douce DeAndre Hopkins, they signed him

2024
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 5: or not?

2025
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 7: Did they?

2026
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 3: No?

2027
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 5: Will they they?

2028
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 10: Oh? I started pulling Eric there as if I had

2029
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 10: nothing ida. I don't know, guys, I'm starting to feel

2030
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 10: like it's a note for me dogs, but I don't know.

2031
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 10: I felt positive going on. I haven't really put much

2032
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 10: thought into eleven out here. I've been trying to get away,

2033
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 10: but I'm gonna say right now, I'm feeling like they're

2034
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 10: gonna roll what they got.

2035
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 7: Oh.

2036
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 5: Oh okay, Well, I do still watch the news. All right,

2037
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 5: du get back, go back to your sin with funds

2038
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 5: and uh and enjoy enjoy the rest of your trip.

2039
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 4: Thank you, I help you go to a lou au.

2040
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 5: Deuce, what are you back?

2041
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 13: How dare you?

2042
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 10: I'll be back on the show next Thursday. So you

2043
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 10: got you got this, uh West Thursday show, and I'm

2044
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 10: back for the next one.

2045
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 5: Oh, that's right, because we don't have a show next Tuesday.

2046
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 5: Fred doesn't. Fred's not going to make me do a

2047
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 5: show in the.

2048
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 4: Fourth right, that's a company holiday.

2049
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Deuce, thanks for choting me. Yeah, I

2050
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 5: wish I could say the same anyway. Uh, why don't

2051
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 5: we just move right along to Aaron in Kentucky? Aaron

2052
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 5: in Kentucky? Is that a new caller?

2053
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 3: No?

2054
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:41,679
Speaker 5: Is he call all the time? Aaron? Hey? What's going on?

2055
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:46,640
Speaker 5: All right?

2056
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 10: I got it?

2057
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 5: All right? Why did you call us right back eron?

2058
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 5: Obviously your your cell was in a bad spot there.

2059
01:39:55,439 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 5: But uh, despite Deuce's uh trials and tribul on really watch.

2060
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 4: Really positive attitude, I knew he was.

2061
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 5: I knew he was making fun of one of his kids,

2062
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 5: because it's all he ever does. I knew, I knew

2063
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 5: for sure that one of his kids was involved in that.

2064
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 4: Dolphins not high on my list of animals that not

2065
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 4: that I like.

2066
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 5: They really, who doesn't like dolphins? Well google Evan Lazar.

2067
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 4: Google it.

2068
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 3: You never went to the Bahamas, just the dolphins.

2069
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 4: I did that actually in Mexico when I was a kid.

2070
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 4: There's a picture of it somewhere in.

2071
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 3: The Lazar household. Yeah.

2072
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 5: I always thought dolphins protected humans, like in the in

2073
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 5: the like they steer like divers away from trouble.

2074
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 4: Dolphins, especially male dolphins, not not safe for air. Google

2075
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 4: it really yep?

2076
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, all right, but I'm not going to google it,

2077
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:46,679
Speaker 5: but I'm going to ask him as soon as the show.

2078
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 4: But it's cool to I mean, you know, you go

2079
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 4: on one of those things like whill watches dolphins.

2080
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 5: You're not a whille watch.

2081
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 4: You're not one hundred percent guaranteed to see anything. The

2082
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 4: fact that it sounds like Deuce might have seen some stuff,

2083
01:40:58,520 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 4: yeah cool.

2084
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 5: I did. I went on a watch and it was fun.

2085
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,480
Speaker 5: It was when we saw like a couple of whales.

2086
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 3: And long they're way too long.

2087
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I'm not a huge ocean guy, you know.

2088
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 3: I mean, stuff that's just ocean scary as hell.

2089
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 4: I don't go well.

2090
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 5: Now you get these stories about the orcers are like

2091
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 5: intentionally attacking boats.

2092
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 3: All those swimming. But I'm not going past the break.

2093
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:20,679
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm not. I don't do the ocean.

2094
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 3: My toes need to touch the ground.

2095
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 4: I don't do the ocean, especially around here. I mean,

2096
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 4: like how many every summer there's a shark off the

2097
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 4: cape or something like that. I don't do the ocean.

2098
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 5: Every year around this time you get that overhead shot

2099
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 5: off one of the beaches down the cape and you see, like,

2100
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 5: you know, Tea so out there not his feet are

2101
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 5: touching the ground, and it's like a great white like

2102
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 5: two feet away that he has no idea about the

2103
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 5: gaddle board.

2104
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 3: The seals are like right up on the beach now

2105
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 3: because like the sharks are twenty feet.

2106
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 5: But I would not be in the water if I

2107
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 5: saw a seal, right, because I know why the seals

2108
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 5: are there.

2109
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So the in the Caribbean, the ocean is

2110
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 4: so clear, yeah that you can see everything. So I'm

2111
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 4: a little bit more okay with that. But around here,

2112
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 4: like in the Pacific, you know, West Coast, Hawaii, La,

2113
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 4: Like I don't I do pools.

2114
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 5: I forget what the distance was. But my wife, you know,

2115
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 5: before she met me, and she actually had a life.

2116
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 5: She had gone scuba diving and stuff and she was

2117
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 5: certified to do that and she used to do it

2118
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 5: all the time up here.

2119
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then she was down in the Caribbean and

2120
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 4: they canceled the dive because the visibility was like only

2121
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 4: fifty feet or or one hundred feet some kind I

2122
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 4: don't know the numbers, so like, don't call me a

2123
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 4: fraud for making up I don't know what the actual

2124
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 4: number was. But she was like, you know, we we

2125
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 4: dive all the time, you know, and it's like, you know,

2126
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 4: less than fifty feet.

2127
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 5: In like Rockport. And the guy was like, yeah, if

2128
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 5: there's a great white within one hundred feet of you,

2129
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 5: you want to know. Yeah, And they were like, okay,

2130
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 5: well that's good enough because like at the time, you

2131
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 5: didn't have to worry about that right here, right on

2132
01:42:57,800 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 5: the north shore if he went cold, but it was

2133
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,639
Speaker 5: so cloudy and murky, but you didn't have to worry.

2134
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 3: About sharks on the cap. On the cape, they have

2135
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 3: the biplanes going by for the shark sightings. We saw

2136
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,759
Speaker 3: him go by last summer and then uh, my friend

2137
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 3: was like, you're gonna be called out of the water

2138
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 3: in ten minutes, and lifeguard sure enough called everybody out

2139
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 3: because the shark was tagged and they caught him on

2140
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 3: they knew where he was. And then another happened twice

2141
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 3: last summer. Another time the plane spotted it and he

2142
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 3: wasn't tagged, so then the boats came up and tagged it.

2143
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 3: So scary stuff.

2144
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 5: He's not like Zoe, do you have to listen to

2145
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 5: Zoe talk about it on Beetle With Beetle itself, he's

2146
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:33,759
Speaker 5: like infatuated with the shark attack.

2147
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 4: It's yeah, because that's I know what you're talking about

2148
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 4: every summer. I'm telling you, I just but I don't

2149
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 4: stuff in your own time.

2150
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,719
Speaker 5: I don't just you know, we goify the coast Guard.

2151
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 4: We go in the vineyard and you know there's the

2152
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 4: Jaws Bridge right which is like the actual bridge that

2153
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 4: they shot the scenes at, and and people just are

2154
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 4: swimming like right by it. You know, they're jumping off

2155
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 4: the Jaws Bridge into the ocean right there. I'm like,

2156
01:43:58,760 --> 01:43:59,759
Speaker 4: did you not see the movie?

2157
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 5: Like this is like this is you can't pretend that

2158
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 5: you saw the movie. It doesn't hold up. We know

2159
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 5: your feelings on the movie that this movie.

2160
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 4: So you know you scroll on on like my videos

2161
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 4: on Facebook and stuff like that, and uh, and the

2162
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 4: scene where they first like interact with the shark and

2163
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 4: it like attacks the boat and everything like that comes

2164
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 4: up and I'm just like, stand by it. Stand by

2165
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 4: what I said, like and like the wife calls, right, oh,

2166
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 4: we'll be we'll be in in a minute, honey, or

2167
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 4: something like that, like come on, like this is no

2168
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 4: doesn't hold up.

2169
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 3: I hate sharks, just scare as hell.

2170
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 4: I was listen. I was young when I saw Jaws

2171
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 4: for the first time. I was probably too young to see.

2172
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 3: Jaws where you like it.

2173
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 4: I it's a nostalgic movie. It has its place in history.

2174
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 5: I understand, like your technical from the technical words that

2175
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 5: you say doesn't hold up. Yes, it was made in

2176
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 5: the mid seventies, right, And there's a lot of mid

2177
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 5: seventies ish things, So I understand what you're talking. But

2178
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 5: like to say that like the movie itself isn't great, like.

2179
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 4: Oh no, it's a great piece of cinema history.

2180
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 3: It's a great movie.

2181
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,640
Speaker 5: It's a great story. It's a great movie. Like I mean,

2182
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 5: I'm I'm obsessed with the movie, you know, with with

2183
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 5: Mike and Hardy and I spend way too much. I'm

2184
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 5: sure that people will complain about the amount of time

2185
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 5: that we spend talking about it on pregame shows, but

2186
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 5: it to know the story behind the scenes of like

2187
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 5: they couldn't get the Shark to work. They did all

2188
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 5: the work with the shark, the mechanical shock in a pool,

2189
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 5: and when they put it in the ocean, the salt

2190
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 5: water constant to mouth. It couldn't it wouldn't work. So

2191
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 5: that was why Spielberg chose to show the Shark so infrequently,

2192
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 5: because they had no choice. It didn't work, so they

2193
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 5: had a sort of shoot around it. And it ended

2194
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 5: up to me being like one of the best parts

2195
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 5: of the movie is suspend you were right of this

2196
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 5: thing that you could only feel. You couldn't see it

2197
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 5: until you know Chief is throwing the chum in the

2198
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 5: water and yeah, you're gonna need to rig a boat,

2199
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 5: like that's the first time you see the Shark.

2200
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 4: I will admit that changed.

2201
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,759
Speaker 14: Horror Friday the thirteenth was based off that, right.

2202
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 4: I will admit say say no, no, no, I'm gonna

2203
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 4: say something nice about Jaws. I will admit that the

2204
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 4: suspense that they that they build up, the tension that

2205
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 4: they build up, is still to this day maybe the

2206
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 4: most tense movie that that you ever watched.

2207
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 5: But the shark just kept ramming itself into the boat

2208
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,879
Speaker 5: and it sunk the boat. Yeah it was awesome.

2209
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was very tense movie. I give you that.

2210
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 4: I'll give you that.

2211
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:43,640
Speaker 3: You're not going to the ocean. You're not going to

2212
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 3: the ocean the summer.

2213
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 4: No, I'm not going now.

2214
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 5: I'm with him on that out. I have not been

2215
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 5: a big fan of the ocean because of that. And

2216
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 5: I'm not lying. I saw that movie when I was

2217
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 5: probably like eight years old, down the cape and I

2218
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 5: did not go in the ocean the rest.

2219
01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 4: Of the.

2220
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,679
Speaker 3: Visiting my friend at the vineyard. It was during Shark week,

2221
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 3: watched Jaws, and I got caught in a rip tide.

2222
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:06,759
Speaker 4: That was oh god, that was that was awful.

2223
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 3: Then go in the water.

2224
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 5: A lot of people getting caught in rip tides doesn't

2225
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 5: end well. You have to get rescued.

2226
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 3: I just let it take you out.

2227
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 4: Swim sideways, swim sideways, you do.

2228
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what they tell your swim parallel to

2229
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 5: the shore.

2230
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 3: I was fine, So you're out of the rip TI, Yeah,

2231
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:23,599
Speaker 3: I was fine. It was water just kind of like

2232
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 3: in the back of my head, I was just shook

2233
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 3: about it being Shark week and I'm on the vineyard like,

2234
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 3: come on.

2235
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 4: Hey, look it's the Jaws Bridge. You know what we

2236
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 4: should do? Swim Like, no, it's terrible idea.

2237
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 5: You got you got marine corps cracking up.

2238
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 4: It's horrible, like when we do it.

2239
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, like I said, I so when

2240
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 5: will Will was like four or five years old, and

2241
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 5: you know Jaws is on like four thousand times you

2242
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 5: know TNT well, but you can see it or anything.

2243
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 5: It was on one of the movie channels and it's

2244
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 5: Showshank Redemption to me that The Godfather. There's ten twelve

2245
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 5: movies that I get Showshanked. If I put it on

2246
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 5: and it's on, I'm in and I can't stop. Jos

2247
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 5: is one of them.

2248
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 4: I think is better than Shashank just for that.

2249
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 5: Well, Josh is much better than show Yeah, Josh, thanks

2250
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:13,639
Speaker 5: great though, But yeah, it's so it's on and I'm

2251
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 5: you know with like I think my wife was at work,

2252
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 5: I got the kids and like I said, Will was

2253
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,639
Speaker 5: only like four five years old, like far too young

2254
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 5: to be watching that, right, So we're watching it, and

2255
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 5: now he's into it, and you know, like you know

2256
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 5: enough about my son without really even knowing him, how

2257
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 5: talkative and inquisitive he is. So he's like asking me

2258
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 5: all kinds of questions. And now it's getting to the

2259
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 5: point where the boat's going down and Quinn's gonna go right,

2260
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 5: so you.

2261
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 4: Know, Quinn dies what So so I'm.

2262
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 5: A spoiler alert. So I'm like, we're playing with legos

2263
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 5: or something, and I'm like, I distract him. And while

2264
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 5: I distract him doing something, I changed the channel so

2265
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 5: he doesn't see them, and it's you know, he's a kid.

2266
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,640
Speaker 5: So like it was ten minutes later before he realized.

2267
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 5: I go back and like the credits are rolling right,

2268
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:02,799
Speaker 5: so it's over, and he's like, well, did did what happened?

2269
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 5: I go, well, no, they ended up. You know you

2270
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 5: remember that that that gas tank that they had, you

2271
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 5: know for the air the chief shot it and the

2272
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 5: shark blew apart and that was the end of the movie.

2273
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 5: And that's what I told him. So like fast forward,

2274
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:20,760
Speaker 5: like three weeks later, he somehow stumbled upon it on

2275
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 5: his own, because again, you know when they're on the

2276
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 5: movie channels, they're constantly on that channel. He saw it

2277
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 5: on his own. You lied to.

2278
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 3: He got eaten by the shot.

2279
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 5: I was pissed. He was so pissed. And Beth is

2280
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 5: just looking at me like he let.

2281
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 3: Him watch jobs four year old son John's.

2282
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 5: And again I say this often when I tell stories

2283
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 5: about the way Beth looks at me. It's not the

2284
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 5: only time I get that look frequently, Like you did what? Yeah?

2285
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 7: So uh?

2286
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 5: Will was probably like four when he saw Quint get

2287
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 5: eaten by the shock?

2288
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 3: Did it not freak him out?

2289
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 5: But he's he's a big horror loves the horror movies.

2290
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 4: See, I'm not a horror movie guy.

2291
01:49:58,920 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 5: I hate him.

2292
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 4: We we all saw Jos's too young like that. Everybody

2293
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 4: has their.

2294
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 5: Story like this, Like I'm not big on the gore right,

2295
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 5: Like Friday the thirteenth, when I saw that to use mats,

2296
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 5: like I literally I saw that like three houses down

2297
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 5: from me in the middle of the day. I ran

2298
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 5: home from that kid's house as fast as I've ever

2299
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 5: run in my life.

2300
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 4: Is that someone's with what's his name, right, Jason Jason. Okay,

2301
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 4: so I the hockey Mask. What's the one with.

2302
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 14: You ran home because of the new Paul, Let's not

2303
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 14: play it.

2304
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 5: That's just that's just that's just silly. Now you're being silly.

2305
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 5: That was one of those like everybody went like everybody

2306
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 5: did that like forever, just to try to freak you out.

2307
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 4: What's the one with Jamielyn Curtis? What that's Halloween? Right? So,

2308
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 4: my my sister's husband's a big core movie guy, and

2309
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 4: we watched that in a cabin in Vermont on his

2310
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 4: bachelor party weekend. So you're in this cabin in Vermont

2311
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 4: that's not for me, in the middle of the woods,

2312
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 4: and you're watching a movie about a guy that's out

2313
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:08,679
Speaker 4: of the cabin in the woods. Without watching what Right,

2314
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 4: I slept with the lights on. I was terrified. I

2315
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 4: was like, oh my goodness, this is like, I'm so

2316
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 4: bad with horror movies. I can't do it. Jack and

2317
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 4: in Arbor though, he says that Shawshank is much better

2318
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 4: than Jaws, and he said it's not even close.

2319
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 5: Shank's great. I love sho It's not Joss, but it's

2320
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 5: a great movie.

2321
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 4: It's good.

2322
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 5: It's a great movie, which you think, what say you

2323
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 5: fussy briches?

2324
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:31,639
Speaker 3: Which one's on more TV?

2325
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 5: Like I think is on constantly.

2326
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

2327
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 5: I actually met somebody like a year ago that I

2328
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 5: had never seen, Shoshank, and I didn't believe him. I

2329
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 5: didn't believe.

2330
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 3: Because I think it awes you. I've never seen The Godfather.

2331
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 5: I'll still let you be friends with me.

2332
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 4: The Godfather is great if you like, I watched The

2333
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 4: Godfather for the first time when I was like sick,

2334
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 4: like home with the floor or something like that. No, No,

2335
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 4: I was like sixteen and I got the flu and

2336
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 4: I had to stay home from school and I'd just watch, like,

2337
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 4: you know, it's because it's four hours, so like you're

2338
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 4: just a great like you know, one of those types

2339
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 4: of it's you gotta watch it.

2340
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 3: That's I just like, it's four hours, but.

2341
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 5: It's it's long, but it's worth it.

2342
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,599
Speaker 4: You don't it doesn't feel like four hours exact good,

2343
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 4: I'll give it.

2344
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like you get like this would have been

2345
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 5: a perfect time because it's been raining every day, especially

2346
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 5: on the weekends. You can veg out and watch that.

2347
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 7: Well.

2348
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 3: I finished Anatomy, so one two.

2349
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 5: I can't believe that you went out of your way

2350
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 5: to watch. Like, I'm not saying I'm not making it.

2351
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 5: Everybody listening knows that I'm not making fun of the

2352
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 5: fact that he watched Great's anatomy, but to go out

2353
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 5: of your way to stream.

2354
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 4: It it was successive. Yeah.

2355
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 3: I watched it so long that there was a character

2356
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 3: named Matisa. That's how long it's been. They ran out

2357
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 3: of names.

2358
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 5: All right, let's get back to the phone. So Andrew

2359
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 5: in La will probably be our last caller of the show. Andrew, Hey,

2360
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:54,679
Speaker 5: what's up boys doing?

2361
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, John's is a fantastic movie, especially without scene with

2362
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 8: Quinn on the boat when he's talking about the sub

2363
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 8: going down or the show. Yeah, that's like my favorite scene.

2364
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 8: And and I think in like the behind the scenes thing,

2365
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 8: the the other actors were like blown away by his performance.

2366
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 5: And I think I think he was. I think he

2367
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 5: did that in one take, and I think he was drunk,

2368
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 5: which was a rob staple at the time, evidently.

2369
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, that was part of his calling card. Yeah,

2370
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 8: so that's just a fantastic moves. But speaking of sharks

2371
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 8: and being in Hawaii, so me and my me and

2372
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 8: my wife are going to go there in the in

2373
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 8: the in September for our anniversary and she's like, oh,

2374
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:45,759
Speaker 8: let's do a shark dive there. And I'm like, well, okay,

2375
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 8: like that sounds cool. It's probably not that crazy. And

2376
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 8: I'm like, it's not like they're chumming the waters to

2377
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 8: get the sharks there, right, And she's like, no, they're

2378
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 8: chumming the waters. I'm like, oh, okay, well, it's probably

2379
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 8: not like they're crazy big sharks where they're doing that,

2380
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 8: and she's like, yeah, probably not. It's probably just like

2381
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 8: some stand sharks. And I look it up and it's like,

2382
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 8: oh yeah, bull sharks and like tiger sharks around there.

2383
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,759
Speaker 8: I'm like, uh, well, at least it's probably a cage.

2384
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 8: It's like, no, it's free diving. And I'm like, I

2385
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 8: I've seen jaws. I don't think I really want to

2386
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 8: go with there.

2387
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, Andrew, no no interest in that.

2388
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 5: That doesn't doesn't excite me in any way.

2389
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 4: None of that three thrill seeking stuff really does it

2390
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 4: for me. Just doesn't live.

2391
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 3: Now.

2392
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be I'm gonna channel my inner Evan. I'm

2393
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 5: just saying I got some film to watch.

2394
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 4: I'll break up that that is I'm gonna break down

2395
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 4: the All twenty two that is, did you ever did

2396
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 4: you hear the big news about the All twenty two? No,

2397
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 4: they're now going to give us four angles instead of

2398
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 4: just two possibilities. So really the big one, the big

2399
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 4: one is the wide end zone angle. So now you're

2400
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 4: gonna get the ALL eleven from the end zone instead

2401
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 4: of just the offensive line, you get the whole wide

2402
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 4: angle of the end zone, which is really, really.

2403
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 5: And really I think that's what we've all been clamoring fourties, right.

2404
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm a big All twenty two guy, you know.

2405
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2406
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 4: So NFL teams have always had this, like they've always

2407
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 4: had it this way, but obviously the public does not.

2408
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 4: So the public is now going to have access to

2409
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 4: the wide end zone angle, which gets me Andrew on

2410
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 4: d hop.

2411
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 8: I think that it's like time to kind of put

2412
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 8: up or shut up with Mac. So I think that

2413
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 8: that would be probably the best option for the team

2414
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 8: going forward, because if it's not going to happen with Hopkins,

2415
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 8: then it's not going to happen because it's not like

2416
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 8: you're just gonna You're not going to have a Tyree

2417
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 8: Killer and a J Brown volunteer lap. So it's best

2418
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 8: to just get the best asset on the market and

2419
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 8: just put them into the system and see if mac

2420
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:47,920
Speaker 8: can actually play quarterback at a at a top ten level.

2421
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 8: That would be my opinion on it.

2422
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, guys.

2423
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 5: No, I think we're all in agreement. We're all in agreement.

2424
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, you got to get a segment on felgrim Mas

2425
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 8: with on Celtic talked about talk. That was fantastic. Lastly,

2426
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 8: you you really missed your colin with being a basketball analyst.

2427
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people would disagree with you.

2428
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 4: People do not Some people really don't like it when

2429
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 4: we talk Celtics in THEO.

2430
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 5: They don't. And uh, you know, the the Marcus Smart thing. Yeah,

2431
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 5: I'll tell you it. Teas are my colleagues on the

2432
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:27,800
Speaker 5: Patriots beat. We are all Woodwood and Bernstein by comparison

2433
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 5: to the Celtics. Oh my god. The amount of people

2434
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 5: who had restless nights in the aftermath of the Marcus

2435
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 5: Smart trade astounded me that that a grown adult would

2436
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 5: say something like that.

2437
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 4: Someone said that, oh god.

2438
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 5: Oh, like like I've really had trouble with this. I

2439
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 5: had trouble with this all night. I like, the dynamic

2440
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 5: of the team is chance Like, it's unbelievable.

2441
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 4: The more that the.

2442
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 5: More you would have thought Brady, you thought it was

2443
01:56:58,320 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 5: like when Brady left.

2444
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 4: The more time that has passed since the trade, I

2445
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 4: the more I think that this is like one of

2446
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 4: those I'm trying to think of a Patriots comparison, and

2447
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 4: I can maybe you can help, like one of those

2448
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 4: times when the leadership, like the voice in the locker

2449
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 4: room needed to change, Like the leadership needed to change,

2450
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 4: and the only way for that shake up to happen

2451
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 4: was to take Marcus Smart's voice out of the locker room,

2452
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 4: so that hopefully the Jays now take over the mantle

2453
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 4: of the leadership and run with it.

2454
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 8: Lawyer malloy is the only thing I could think of.

2455
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not a bad one. Yeah that's not a

2456
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 5: bad one.

2457
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 4: Except lawyer actually won a championship, So oh wow, Shade.

2458
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 5: And I'm the one that always takes the shots at

2459
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 5: poor Marcus. Uh. And the one thing that I did say,

2460
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 5: like I was talking to someone over the weekend about Smart,

2461
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 5: like by all accounts a fantastic guy. Yeah, like does

2462
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 5: tons for charity in the hospitals with children the camps.

2463
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 3: He'll be back eventually too, I think, well, I.

2464
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 5: Think he's already did like his own camp. Like so,

2465
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 5: I don't have anything bad to say about the person.

2466
01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 4: No, I just didn't really enjoy watching him play basketball.

2467
01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 8: Did you see the article from Kozie?

2468
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 5: I did Bob Coozy was that was very funny? Actually,

2469
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:15,160
Speaker 5: did you see those comments?

2470
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 4: I saw some of them. I don't know, Like so

2471
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 4: I've I've talked to some people.

2472
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 5: I take it in general, and evidently Coozy hates all

2473
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 5: all quote unquote point guards. He doesn't like any.

2474
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 4: Of them well because they don't really play point guard

2475
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 4: anymore the way he wants them to write. I don't know,

2476
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 4: Like I love Bob Coozy for what I know of

2477
01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:35,720
Speaker 4: Bob Kozy. I'm not gonna I'm thirty years old. I'm

2478
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 4: not going to sit here and act like I saw

2479
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:37,839
Speaker 4: Bob Coosey play.

2480
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 5: Basketball, but I didn't even come close to But.

2481
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 4: At the same time, it's like, do I really care

2482
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 4: about ninety five year old Bob Coosey's opinion on a

2483
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 4: Celtics trade, Like, I don't know, it doesn't regardless if

2484
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 4: it was a positive or negative take, I'm not sure

2485
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 4: it was really needed that.

2486
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 5: It was both he was he was kind of positive

2487
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 5: on Smart and he was kind of negative on Smart,

2488
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 5: like with the point guard thing. But I had uh

2489
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 5: listening to Michael Holly talk about it a little bit

2490
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 5: last night on one of one of my shows, and

2491
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 5: he was saying, like he remembers talking to Coozie when

2492
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 5: he was covering Celtics and he hated all point guards.

2493
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, well there's the actual Bob Coosey point guard like

2494
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 4: doesn't exist anymore in the NBA.

2495
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 5: Chris Paul is like the closest thing. Yeah, that's what

2496
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:25,000
Speaker 5: they were talking about on that show.

2497
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even he like doesn't really play anymore.

2498
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:33,879
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, all right, Andrew, enjoy your your holiday weekend.

2499
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, we're wrapping up here today. Any any plans

2500
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 5: for the fourth before we put a bowl on.

2501
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 4: I think I'm fit in the fourth with with Barth,

2502
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 4: with my other half down and I really do do

2503
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:50,720
Speaker 4: everything together, really do which the fourth is one day

2504
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 4: we are but we are here on Thursday.

2505
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 5: We'll do it again on Thursday. At the very minimum,

2506
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 5: the three of us, will you be here to you

2507
01:59:57,040 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 5: all right? So at the very minimum, the three of us,

2508
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 5: Matt you'll be here and will we have a Catch

2509
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:02,960
Speaker 5: twenty two Thursday?

2510
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 3: There you go.

2511
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 5: Oh, well, so that's a special treat. You get to

2512
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:09,240
Speaker 5: listen to Evan Lazarre call me names while I'm not listening,

2513
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 5: because he's smart enough to know that I do not

2514
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 5: listen to Catch twenty two. Wow. Yes, I deserve that,

2515
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 5: all right, So we'll be back on Thursday.

2516
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 1: Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, Google Play,

2517
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, please rate

2518
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:32,560
Speaker 1: and review us. Listener comments and ratings help keep us

2519
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 1: high in the podcast rankings so new listeners.

2520
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 5: Can find us.

2521
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 1: Be sure to check Patriots dot com for more news

2522
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 1: and more podcasts.