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Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: now your hosts. Brian brought us Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans,

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Speaker 1: and David Hellman. It is Thursday, February the tenth, and

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Speaker 1: that means it is time for another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Draft Show, brought to you by Miller Lite. Hi. There,

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Speaker 1: I'm David Hellman. In your in your radio or your headphones,

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Speaker 1: however you're digesting this podcast. I'm joined by my buddies,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, Brian brought us Kyle Yeoman's you know the drill?

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Speaker 1: Jeff was the last player you watched. What's just all

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Speaker 1: the tough questions? That's not a tough question. I don't

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Speaker 1: Joseph is a safety out of Illinois that would be

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Speaker 1: a really nice player in the third round. Dave Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl Guy, right, boy. Yeah, yep, he's a senior bowl man.

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Speaker 1: He falls in behind the top two groups. I guess. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton Notre Dame, but you can't have so don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it. Sure. Daxton Hill, Michigan, which for me

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Speaker 1: is a cheater grade. First second, so somewhere near the

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Speaker 1: end of the first round. Second round is jikuon Brisker,

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Speaker 1: Penn State, Jalen Petrie, Baylor Lewis Scene, Georgia. Third round

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Speaker 1: is Kirby Joseph. I'm actually really glad you did that.

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Speaker 1: get into that in the second segment. It's not as

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Speaker 1: cold outside as you think it is. It was when

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Speaker 1: thanks mann Man, you know, like he's doing Denver Bronco Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to take all that back. No, if you're

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Speaker 1: looking good, it's okay. How's everybody else this morning? Great? Great? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nice little synergy. There you go. So all right, I

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Speaker 1: asked Jeff about a prospect, but what I want to

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Speaker 1: do today, and Brian, I think you'll appreciate this. Um.

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Speaker 1: This is the frustrating thing about doing a draft podcast

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Speaker 1: we don't know about what this team is gonna look

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Speaker 1: like on April thirtieth or whatever day the draft starts.

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Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna stop doing the Draft show

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Speaker 1: for a while. No, Ill figured out, No, I absolutely don't.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it lends itself to some interesting conversations.

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Speaker 1: If you remember, financially, you and I don't need to

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Speaker 1: sing this stuff. That's a fair point. Let's not let's

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Speaker 1: keep doing it. I was thinking four times a week, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kyle and I don't get paid by the appearance. No,

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Speaker 1: you guys can, Rin and I are going to do

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Speaker 1: two more a week. Yeah you two. Godspeed. But if

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Speaker 1: Long winded. Where I'm going with this is if you

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Speaker 1: And then if they move on from him, Tank probably

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Speaker 1: him harder to move. Yes, because you've you've read. Oh, no,

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Speaker 1: And it's like, wait, but you did this to our

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Speaker 1: restructure Amar. I would restructure a Mari. I would do that.

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Speaker 1: Am I crazy? No? You're not. I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: like they're gonna do what they're gonna do. We're thirty

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Speaker 1: There's a fi fifty four point two percent chance Tank's

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Speaker 1: defensive theory or receivers the edge spot is a lot easier.

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Speaker 1: Ryan's play tell me on George Carloft that way. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think in theory, receiver is much easier to replace

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Speaker 1: than good edge. No. To me, there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: deep positions. I kind of you know we're talking last night.

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Speaker 1: Linebacker is another one edge, linebacker, receiver, safety. I mean

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Speaker 1: there's some good positions some you know, the Cowboys sitting

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Speaker 1: right where there are. I think they're going to be fine.

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Speaker 1: But again, if you want to go the only reason

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Speaker 1: I would go up, in my opinion, is if I

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Speaker 1: the best offensive tackle out of this thing. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about, because I might have a chance of

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Speaker 1: there's a plethora of wide receiver's bilaball all the time.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna counter myself real quick, but you are

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Speaker 1: talking wide receiver one like real life number one. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, versus kind of my thing is ceedee lamb. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You tech the theoretically should have a wide receiver one.

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Speaker 1: You do have one. You you drafted him at seventeen,

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Speaker 1: he had over Mars gone. Now I need a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver two and a wide receiver three. Well, if you

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Speaker 1: at least keep one or the other of Michael Gallop

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Speaker 1: and or Cedric Wilson. So there's your two potentially maybe

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Speaker 1: your three, and you're looking probably easier to keep than

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Speaker 1: than Gallop. Thing I think. I think I think people

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Speaker 1: realize that Gallop will be healthy and ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I really just had surgery, I know, but I think

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest. The Gang of Seven. I think I

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Speaker 1: want to keep Gallop because I don't want Cedric Wilson

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Speaker 1: plays in the slot, and that means CD's not in

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Speaker 1: the slot, get in my way. I would very much

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Speaker 1: I would prefer to keep Gallop, and I would love

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Speaker 1: to try to do it on like a one or

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Speaker 1: Whinny and receiving CORP could be Michael Gallop, Cede Lamb,

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Speaker 1: and either Jalen Toilbert or John metchi Byam. I'm cool

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Speaker 1: with that. And that's two. If you're three, are gonna

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Speaker 1: Twitter on you just right off the rip man. That

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Speaker 1: we're staying on track saying was my fault? Yeah, screw you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Andrew wants to Andrew wants you to compare Jabril Cox

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Speaker 1: and Nakobe Dean. Are they similar or not similar players?

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Speaker 1: I will say they are very not similar. I agree

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Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, Jabril Cox. If you're a draft nerd

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Speaker 1: like we are, my Jabril Cox very optimistic comp is

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Speaker 1: he played college ball like Fred Warner played college ball. Lanky, long, smooth,

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Speaker 1: easy coverage guy, not necessarily a good run defender. Now

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Speaker 1: Fred Warner has turned into that that's Jabril Cox. Like long, big,

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Speaker 1: rangy but not fair to say, but not violent, physical

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Speaker 1: run filler. You're drafting Jabril Cox or you drafted Jabril

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Speaker 1: Cox for what he does away from the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: You're drafting Dean for what he does at the line

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Speaker 1: of script. The biggest difference, the biggest difference in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: is that when you watch Cox play at LSUE, he

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Speaker 1: didn't always see it as quick. That was the thing.

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Speaker 1: Once he saw it though, he was gone. He was

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Speaker 1: gonna go get it with Dean. Dean sees it before

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Speaker 1: it's happening, and then he's gone. That's the biggest difference.

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Speaker 1: You talked about long, lanky and all that and tall

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Speaker 1: one to six two one to six foot. You know

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Speaker 1: there's a difference, but but they go to the ball.

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Speaker 1: The thing about it is, though, it's the how he

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Speaker 1: initially sees and diagnoses the play that's the biggest difference.

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Speaker 1: In my view, it's a quick recognition and the first

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Speaker 1: step ability. Dean is so downhill and so fierce whenever

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Speaker 1: he does see that supercharged Nick Bolton. It's easy. It's

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Speaker 1: easy to draw comparisons between guys that wear the same uniform.

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Speaker 1: But and he's not as big, but Dean just reminds

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Speaker 1: me of Roquan Smith the way that he's that right

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Speaker 1: on the ball carrier the minute that gets the ball,

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Speaker 1: like he's just always there. The toomp would be more

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Speaker 1: between Devin Lloyd and Jabril Cox if you wanted to

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Speaker 1: do a linebacker in this class. Again, I think Devin

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Speaker 1: Lloyd is a better prospect because he is also good

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Speaker 1: coming forward, making a much plays on the other side

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Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage, but he's your longer coverage. I

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Speaker 1: alluded to this in the first segment, but Mike just

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Speaker 1: wants an idea of what you think about the safety

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Speaker 1: class the top of it at least, and we talked

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Speaker 1: about jet I think there's some really good safeties we've mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton. I think he's a generational type safety. I

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Speaker 1: think he's going to come in, be a starter and

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Speaker 1: immediately be a star in this league. Even with some

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Speaker 1: of the height and maybe some of the quickness or

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Speaker 1: concerns just based off of how big he is for

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Speaker 1: the position. I don't have any concerns. I think he's

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal player. Dax Hill right there from Michigan as well,

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Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal player. Lewis signed up at the top.

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Speaker 1: Chiquon Brisker signed by the way from Georgia. Brisker from

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Speaker 1: Penn State. And I really like Sterling Weatherford out of Miami, Ohio,

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Speaker 1: so him at the Senior Bowl. Got to watch a

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Speaker 1: little bit of tape of him last week, just kind

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Speaker 1: have been passing. I haven't done a complete report on

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Speaker 1: him yet, but I like some of the stuff I

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Speaker 1: saw from him. Another long, lanky range safety. You can

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Speaker 1: play over the top centerfield guy. I just think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of top heavy guys in this class. But

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Speaker 1: you could go down the list, I know. Jokingly, the

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Speaker 1: tongue in cheek was Jalen Petrie. Sure, I think there's

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Speaker 1: guys in that range. Second, third, fourth round. The cam

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Speaker 1: Taylor Britt out of Nebraska, Kirby Joseph out of Illinois.

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Speaker 1: He moved him to safety from corner. Is what you did? Who?

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Speaker 1: Taylor Britt? Yes? I did? Okay, Yeah, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: There's some people projecting that. Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: I just get the sense Kyle Hamilton should be one

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Speaker 1: of the first ten or twelve players picked. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: then it sounds like the rest of the good safeties

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Speaker 1: and wow, do we get to ten with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Now you're talking, that's exciting if you're telling me, you know,

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Speaker 1: I watched like half of a game of Kyle Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: Because I'll be honest, the guys who you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: have a at I wouldn't hurry. I'm not so am

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Speaker 1: I trying to watch watch Haydon Hutchinson last night for

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Speaker 1: the first time. What do you think, because what do

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Speaker 1: I care? Right, No, I'm because I'm agressive though he's

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Speaker 1: very good. Yeah, I actually would take Thibadeau over Hutchins.

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Speaker 1: I'm there too, but I had in that way as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: I feel bad now I need to change that. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, I was watching him. I was like, the

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Speaker 1: six foot twenty pounder that keeps falling over, like, that's

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Speaker 1: the top five player in this class. But I watched

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Speaker 1: like a half of football. It's pretty good. Which game

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Speaker 1: did you watch? He's pretty good because I think there's

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Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of wasted steps in his

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Speaker 1: doesn't step Cincinnati? Yeah, yeah, I watched Cincinnati. Like, he

614
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Speaker 1: makes one great play where he blitz his off the

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Speaker 1: edge and jumps up in bats of ball down Like,

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Speaker 1: holy crap, that's a condor that runs really fast. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm all on his tape the rest of

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Speaker 1: the time. And then I'm watching other players and I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he can't cover receivers. The stopping go isn't very good.

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Speaker 1: He gets stuck in space. Um so I'm look, the

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Speaker 1: whole world doesn't think a guy's a top five player

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Speaker 1: and he's not good, So I just need to watch

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Speaker 1: him more. Just put it out there. But well, the

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Speaker 1: point I was gonna make is outside of him, the

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Speaker 1: rest of these guys sound like thirty to sixty type

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Speaker 1: of players like that range. Well, you know, I thought,

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Speaker 1: well Hill might go before that. Yeah. The thing when

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Speaker 1: I was watching Dax Hill play from Michigan, the first

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Speaker 1: time I thought that was Dallas's pick at twenty four

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Speaker 1: could be I tweeted about it. I'm like, I just

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Speaker 1: watched Dallas's pick at twenty four. This was the first started,

632
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Speaker 1: you know, in December looking at this playing guy. Yeah,

633
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like though two though, with the

634
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: say and Dane made a really good point last night,

635
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: is that maybe some of these guys that we think

636
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: that might be twenty to twenty five or twenty to

637
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: thirty five whatever, guys, if we I don't think we're

638
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: going to get our normal number of first round players

639
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty guys, Oh no, I have four or five, six, eight, nine, ten, eleven. Yeah.

640
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying, You're gonna be down maybe seven

641
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: or eight guys. So guys that you thought about that

642
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: might be you know, at seventeen, maybe Green might be

643
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: that example guy. I think a lot of people have

644
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: Green that guard for me and him in the round.

645
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: If you don't, if you don't have some of those

646
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: guys like that, Oh Widemeyer, the tied end from Texas

647
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: A and M. I don't have him as a first

648
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: round tight end, but he might be taking at twenty one,

649
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty somewhere around around there. You know what

650
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So let him go bring me Tray McBride. Well, no,

651
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: that's I'm saying. They're plenty of I'm just saying though,

652
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of people that the number usually

653
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: that number is eighteen to twenty A first round grades.

654
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: And if you only have like Jeff's talking about, you

655
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: have eleven to thirteen first round grades, that means there's

656
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of those guys like from fourteen

657
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: on on your board. You're trying to tell me to

658
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: prepare for chaos. Yes, oh yeah, this is gonna be fun.

659
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: This one's good. We always say it's gonna be fun

660
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: because the quarterbacks, but maybe the lack of them is

661
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: gonna make it fun. Remind me to go back to

662
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: the safeties, because that's the topic real quick, but just

663
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: for fun because like the guys even I know it's

664
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: early in mock drafts, who cares. They're just fun little exercises.

665
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: But guys who are really plugged in, they look very different.

666
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: You'll see Tyler Linderbaum in the top ten. Then you'll

667
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: see him at thirty one. You'll see na Kobe Dean

668
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: at number eight, and you'll see him at number twenty nine.

669
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: You'll see Devin Lloyd, same thing. He goes twelve. Nope,

670
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: he goes twenty six like Stingley. Is he gonna go

671
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: three or is he gonna go eighteen? Like it's gonna

672
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: be all over the place, and you'll just see what

673
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: happens in the safety class. I think it's a good

674
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: safety class. You mean the safety I like this. You

675
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: have to see what happens because we are talking about ranges.

676
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: Is there a chance that Kyle Hamilton, Daxton Hill, Jaquon Brisker,

677
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: Jalen Petreet, Lewis Sene are all gone by the time

678
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: you pick in the second round? Yeah? Yeah, But if not,

679
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: one of those is a good second round pick. Kirby

680
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: Joseph Can I get him in the third? The Illinois

681
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: guy and still guys, I gotta watch. Yeah, but Verne

682
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: McKinley out of Oregon. It's like Richie Grant and Travan

683
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Merrick all over again, except but in this case they

684
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: were like safety two and three. Yeah, I'm talking about

685
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: safety five and six. Yeah, it's fair. Actually, you're gonna

686
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: have a shot at drafting a starting safety in the

687
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: second and third round. This lends itself well to the

688
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: next question, Sports two Trill wants to know that's his name?

689
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: Love it best? A best case scenario. In a best

690
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: case scenario for the Cowboys, how many of these quarterbacks

691
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: could you realistically see going in the first twenty three picks?

692
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: Three tops. I think corral will pick it. I don't

693
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: know Willis. I don't know if people will like Willis

694
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: as much as I like Willis. I think he's going

695
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: to test really well. And it's quarterback starved league. Everybody's

696
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to trade for the or Watson

697
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: or whatever the first one. We'll see what happens. You know,

698
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: the Commanders Washington, give me another team that could take

699
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Three could be gone. About Minnesota, Oh, they

700
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: they've already got well, they got the kids from Ay

701
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: and m Yeah, and well, I guess Zimmer's gone. But

702
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: Zimmer told you what he thought about Well, and I'll

703
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: tell you what. Kellen Mond is okay in one school

704
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: out there. Don't listen to this. He can't play in

705
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. Pick it out the quarterback. He couldn't complete

706
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: passes outside the numbers in college football. It's true, he

707
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: ain't playing the NFL. I'm looking at it. I mean

708
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: New Orleans in there, New Orleans, Uh, Denver, Washington, Pittsburgh,

709
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: maybe Minnesota, maybe you maybe Cleveland, maybe Cleveland. You can

710
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: get three. It could be there, you could get three gone.

711
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: Or it could be an EJ manual year where one

712
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: is gone. I mean, Howell's got a Howel's got him,

713
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: How's got a shot? I think Hall and Pikett. I

714
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: mean me personally, I have a Willis, Hall and Pickett.

715
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: That's how I have my order. So at least two

716
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: will be gone, and I bet three will be gone.

717
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: I like where it's correct. That's the first one is

718
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: the top one. The other three guys, I have the

719
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: second round. Guys, gotcha? Jason has a Senior Bowl follow up?

720
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Daniel Fallele The gigantic Minnesota

721
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: tackle and Darian Knard out of Kentucky. There's such a

722
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: thing as too big. M You look around all terrified

723
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: like that that's what he is. That's what he has

724
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: on a radio heat steal like this is his way

725
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: or not drop the grenade and then move. Yeah, well,

726
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: I just I like, it's it's fun if you can

727
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: be a nifty but as he six eight three idea

728
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. Nuts. But it's just like you're gonna and

729
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong about this, but I've already seen things

730
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: about the Jets where they're like, hey, McKay Beckton, wait

731
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: where is he? And it's just like a giant guy

732
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: who you guys can tell me how he did the

733
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. My understanding was, sorry, I wasn't particularly impressed.

734
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean not that I got beat by all the

735
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: quicker guys. I's just say that everybody who had any

736
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: kind of spit speed coming off the edge and he

737
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of get off. Yeah, HiT's wwe. The problem is like,

738
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: look at the guy like Neil and you understand why

739
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: Neil was that big, and then the first round players

740
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: and then you watch this kid and then you see

741
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: the lack of foot quickness, and then that that's the

742
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: thing that really that kind of takes you back, and

743
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: he gets really tall out of his stance and it's

744
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: hard for him to move. And Jeff's right, there's a

745
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: point in time where you're too big. Evan Neil's as

746
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: big as you're allowed to be. Yeah, when you're three

747
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: fifty seven, it's a lot different than being like three

748
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: seventy nine or whatever. This kid is. He's sure as

749
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: hell looked. I mean, it's it was wild looking at him,

750
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: like huddling up with the other guys and Trevor Quinning

751
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: just looking across from each other. People people are going

752
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: to talk about remember Orlando Brown coming out of Oklahoma.

753
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: Ye remember how I mean that's a guy that was

754
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: six eight threety five pounds okay, and tested as the worst,

755
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: tested as the worst athlete, and next thing you know,

756
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: he's playing on Pro Bowl exactly. So for every time

757
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: that you might think that these guys can't maybe the

758
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: lack of foot quickness and all, someone's gonna remind you

759
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: of Orlando Brown in that whole thing about can Yeah,

760
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily think he lived up to the billing

761
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: and mobile mostly because I think he's banged up. I

762
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: think he's got a knee issue. He's wearing the braces

763
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: on the knee. I mean, this is one of the

764
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: most experienced guys in terms of college football and actual

765
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: snaps throughout his career. I'm not impressed with the hand strength,

766
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: with the quickness and the timing with his hands. I

767
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: was a little I thought it left a little bit

768
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: to be desired, especially when going up against guys like

769
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: even Travis Jones and company throughout the Canard. So I

770
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: don't know I was. I was going into it expecting

771
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: him to be the best lineman there. I use the

772
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: word lumber or lumberie or lumber six times. He doesn't

773
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: look it's not a word I want, and my scouting

774
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: doesn't look smooth. He he'll lock you up, he'll move you.

775
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: He's strong as hell. Yeah, he lumbers. Yeah. The thing

776
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: about it is the thing is the balance. I mean,

777
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: you watch him and something. When his head goes down.

778
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: He is toast, you know. I mean, and a lot

779
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: of offensive lineman when they lunge or they get over extended,

780
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: And a lot of has to do with what Kyle

781
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: is talking about. Your hands, Will you put your hands

782
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: hand placement, your punch, the ability to sit down with

783
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: your bend your knees and stuff. And this kid he

784
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: is You're right though, I mean he is massive. He

785
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: gets movement in the running game. There's times you see

786
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: him like guys can't get around him or through him.

787
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: But then again, there's those balance issues that kind of

788
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: like it's it's you great him on sixty play sixty

789
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: five plays, five of the plays, it's like, oh God,

790
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: what just happened kind of a thing. So I think

791
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: I know why John asked this question based on our

792
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: first segment. He notes that Amari Cooper what helped him

793
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: so much here he was a very He was Dak friendly,

794
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: He got open, he got separation, he made life easy

795
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: on Dak is a Mari Dak friendly. He wasn't twenty eighteen,

796
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: for sure. I think was he Dak friendly in twenty

797
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: eighteen or did it give you a good receiver? I mean,

798
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: I think because like I feel like the thing with

799
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: Dak is well, I love I love Dak. I'm a

800
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: big Dak fan. But like Amari Cooper, I think a

801
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: lot of people over the last couple of years you

802
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: would have expected more catches, more yards. I think that's fair.

803
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: I think, and Dak was hurt. My reasoning for this

804
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: is Dak and I think his accuracy has improved over

805
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: the years, But Amari Cooper was just a guy that

806
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: was easy to get the ball too. Sure he'll get

807
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: open in that. With that in mind, is there a

808
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: receiver like that I get basically a route runner, a

809
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: technician if you will, that you've seen in this draft class.

810
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: One David Bell from Purdue just really yeah. He put

811
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: up big numbers, wow, six foot two, two hundred and

812
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: five pounds, and he I mean, he's one of those

813
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: like traditional X receivers and he's he plays bigger, but

814
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: he plays quicker than what he looks like even on

815
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: paper with the two oh five. He has great route

816
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: running ability, very sharp in his in his cuts, and

817
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: I think he can catch the football pretty well, good

818
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: pinpoint accuracy with the or being able to high point

819
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: the ball. Good receiver. One of the three guys that

820
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: I've watched, and so I'm pretty pretty solid about this guy.

821
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: I feel good about him because he's better than the

822
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: other two that I've watched. I kind of started, I'll

823
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: give you a guy, I'll give a guy. We and

824
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: we mentioned him because I wasn't. Tilbert is good. No,

825
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: Tilbert can catch the ball. You're absolutely right about that.

826
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: Is he a route runner though? Yes, yeah, he yes,

827
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: Well I would say he, I would say vertical stuff.

828
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: He's stuff is great. He's a technician, yeah, like he

829
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: is one of those guys changed his speed. The reason

830
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: that he gets open deep even though he's not a burner,

831
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: is the same reason he gets open on other routes,

832
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: which is he knows how to get to the corner.

833
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: Get him, head up, stem him. If you want to

834
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: use football space. He knows how to stem him. He

835
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: knows how to change speeds in the route. He knows

836
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: how to make you think I'm doing something I'm not.

837
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Tulbert, South Alabama, second round. I'm cool with it.

838
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: I'll give you a guy. When I watched Drake London again,

839
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: I talked about the USC side. I thought he was

840
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: a bigger version of Adam falin. Holy cow, that's what

841
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: I thought. Catching the football. He was listed at six five.

842
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: There's no way he's six five, right. He's a big boys,

843
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: a big boy. Adam Fealand is six two to a

844
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: one when he came out. So but I thought he

845
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, I thought he was a bigger version

846
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: of Adam Falin when I watched this guy play, because

847
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: he lines up inside, outside, he catches the ball all

848
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: over the field. It doesn't matter where it's thrown, it's coming.

849
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: He's coming with it. I mean he's going to catch

850
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: the ball easily. You talk about a guy that's very

851
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly, this kid right there, because USC struggles with

852
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback. They got all those high price guys out there,

853
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: and they play him like you know, they shuffle him

854
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: in and out. This guy they target him like thirteen

855
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: fourteen times a game and he comes away with eleven

856
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: twelve catches every single time. I mean, he is a

857
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: guy when you watch him play what he I mean?

858
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: I just you talk about a friendly quarterback, friendly player.

859
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: That's the guy. And it's dumb to try to predict

860
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: the exact range people are gonna go in. But I'm

861
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 1: gonna throw out a name that I think is gonna

862
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: fall between your first and second round pick, most likely

863
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: Chris Olave. Yeah, that's the second one you mentioned. If

864
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: you want a route runner and a technician and a

865
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: smooth operator, that is the smoothest dude in this class.

866
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: I love. We talked about this on Tuesday, but like

867
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: he was, he was the name to know on Ohio

868
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: State at the start of the year, and now he

869
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: almost feels like an athlete. So we then know what

870
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: the jigbo was. That's what I'm saying. And now it

871
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: turns out that Garrett Wilson aren't as good as the

872
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: one who's staying. I mean, yeah, it's like Alabama running back.

873
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: I'll tell you Garrett, listen. Garrett Wilson is wide receiver

874
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: one in this draft for me, wide receiver one, and

875
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: he and he wasn't the best one on his college team.

876
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: The my current defensive tackle number one is it Georgia?

877
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: Maybe my DT one into my guy. They weren't the

878
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: best defensive tackles on their team. Talked about this draft

879
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: ineligible Jalen Carter. I want him, he wanted. Yeah. When

880
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: twenty three drafts come back, three man, we tank this

881
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: year for Jalen Carter. Tank the draft next year. We

882
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: need to listen, Let's eat some dead money, get all

883
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: the contracts off the books that get out of the way. Yeah,

884
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: and let's try to get the top five next year

885
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: and get Jalen Carter Georgia d tackle. Here we go.

886
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I like what you're doing. Then

887
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: thank you. I can I go back with the lobby

888
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: real quick? Ye can we get for dad? H No,

889
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: this isn't. This isn't. This team will let you talk

890
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: about stuff like that, Believe it or not. Anybody else

891
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: would get fired. Let's just want to run like the

892
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: one to say one thing about a lobby real quick? Yeah,

893
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: rush one a game that if the lobby Like most

894
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: college players, it's like get one foot down and bounce

895
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: kind of a guy. This guy's always getting two ten three.

896
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: He knew he was gonna ge in the NFL. This

897
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: guy knew he was gonna be an FL receiver. Every

898
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: time you watch him tight throw whatever along the sidelines

899
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: in zone corner whatever, two feet, two feet, two feet.

900
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: He's not trying to just drag one. He's dragging. He's

901
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 1: putting two downs knowing that. But he's a slight guy.

902
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean he's a six break tackles. Yeah, he's six

903
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: to one, he's one hundred and eighty two pounds. I

904
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: don't want to hear the slight stuff anymore after DeVante Smith,

905
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean no, but devant the differences. Davante Smith is

906
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: a more explosive mover, so he can get off press

907
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: and do a little more after catch like a love

908
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: is super smooth, but he's not gonna really make you

909
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: miss after I'm gonna run through an arm tackle. He

910
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: might struggle against press. But if you tell me you

911
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: can get him in the slot or get him a

912
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: clean release, Chris Alove will be open or will him

913
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: in the slot over ceedee lamb Because earlier you said

914
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: you want to see to say no? Is that troubling trying?

915
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: Can you make it interchangeable, you dude, make make it

916
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: all work. Both play a little bit of every which

917
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: is fine. You get a guy who can do both.

918
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: Did you just trade Deak? Yeah, I was trying to

919
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: get Jalen Cartere. Oh yeah, Georgia, and you'll know you will.

920
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: You want of tackles that are about to be directing

921
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: the first round, they're terrible when you're next to him.

922
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Eight years of doing this, you've learned you pick up

923
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: other guys that you're trying to watch the one guy

924
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: you're trying to study. Yeah, Jeff's trying to get rid

925
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: of the franchise quarterback for a defensive tackle. Yeah, go

926
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: after him on. I am clearly doing bits to express

927
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: my love for that defense people. Yeah, exactly, that's all

928
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: all right. I have a good one from Stephen, but

929
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: Stephen just not know Stephen with a V could be okay.

930
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Speaker 1: I don't know if Stevens accountant somebody I know people

931
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: inside the organization listen to this. So if you're listening,

932
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: shoot me a text and tell me if Steven listens

933
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Speaker 1: and then just start screaming about dragons, dragon stuff, mud

995
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Speaker 1: on your face show. Yeah, maybe Jeff and I will

996
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Speaker 1: launch a Tolkien podcast. Hilarious. So this is what I

997
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about anyway, sort of. But Stephen, all right,

998
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: so we'll start with we'll start with Steven's question, how

999
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: do you pre free agency? We obviously know a lot's

1000
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: going to change, but how do you rank right now

1001
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: these needs? Receiver, linebacker, safety, edge right right right this second.

1002
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: I we can't predict what's going to happen between now

1003
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: and markets. Okay, this is going to change, and it

1004
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because also the least valuable position of the

1005
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: group technically right now safeties number one and linebackers probably

1006
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: number two. Because you don't have enough on the roster.

1007
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: You go, um, just pure bodies. You need them, you

1008
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: gotta sign them. You gotta find a way to fill

1009
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: those holes prior to drag once we get to because

1010
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: otherwise you're starting safeties right now, Donovan Wilson and Israel

1011
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: Mquamo those would be your starting safe and you're starting

1012
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: linebackers would be Jabriel Cox and Micah Parsons, and you

1013
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: have Francis Bernard hanging out somewhere. And that's it. Um,

1014
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: you don't have enough players at those spots. They will

1015
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: fix that in free agency and this order will change.

1016
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: But today that's it. Well, Randy Gregor is a free agent,

1017
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: edges a needing and going back to its absolutely right

1018
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: receiver and edge. Again, this ties into what we talked

1019
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: about in the first segment. I just he said it's

1020
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: gonna if it changes. I'm terrified at what that could

1021
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: look like because right the second you could play receiver

1022
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: because you have a Marie Cooper, Ceedee Lamb Semi Fihoko.

1023
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: But what well and if you bring back Jabren Curse,

1024
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: this whole list could flip, because I away with you

1025
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: on the order, it could completely the diverse. It'll be

1026
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: a wide receiver first, then edge then okay. So now

1027
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: try to predict the future for me. What do you

1028
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: see it being when all is said and done, Wide

1029
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: receiver first, then going into into Okay, let's do most

1030
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: likely that they will plug with a body they believe

1031
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: is capable of starting, because in theory, they're going to

1032
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: get all of it filled in right, They're gonna get

1033
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: what they do. They'll get random free agents so that

1034
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: they can draft close to their board. Because of the

1035
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: way they seem to value safety, I would imagine they're

1036
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: going to bring at least one of them back, and

1037
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: safety will go away as one of your safety will

1038
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: become I think safety will become either three or four. Right,

1039
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: safety will probably go away. Colin, I think I think

1040
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: Malik Hooker is a starter here next year. I think

1041
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: Hooker and Curse are back. In my opinion, I don't

1042
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: know about Curse, and the reason why Curse would stay

1043
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: is because I think he would take a little bit

1044
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: less money than he could get elsewhere just to be

1045
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: back with dan Quinn and when market value what we

1046
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: think it is, like, we know we had a good year.

1047
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: Does the league think that he had a good year?

1048
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know. Well if also, you might be

1049
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: in a situation too. We're talking about all these safeties

1050
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: in the draft. Somebody might say, we don't need to

1051
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: go get this guy. I mean, I just look at

1052
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: it in the sense that Curse is a seventh year

1053
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: VET drafted in the sixth round. He signed here for

1054
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: one mill, Like, he's never had a real NFL payday,

1055
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: and so if somebody offers him something I could, Yeah,

1056
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna, I would take it. He's gonna. He's like,

1057
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: this might be the only chance I ever have to

1058
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: make good NFL money. But why couldn't you get that

1059
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: here though, because dan Quinn could go across the hall

1060
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: and say, I need We don't have no money. I know,

1061
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: I know, but whatever everything brands out, Yeah, maybe that's

1062
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: probably right. Let me ask you this, though, guys, the

1063
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: number one need if if all things flip, it's gonna

1064
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: be wide receiver. I agree because left guard. Well, you're yeah,

1065
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: you were talking about earlier and you mentioned you mentioned

1066
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: about the whole thing about the the core back and

1067
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: blocking all that stuff like that. If this guy's got

1068
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: nobody to throw the ball too, Yeah, you gotta help

1069
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: your quarterback, right. Yeah, we saw what receiver by committee.

1070
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: You and I lived receiver by committee first. Yeah, we

1071
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: lived like eight weeks every Yeah, we live that. Okay,

1072
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: if you want, if you want to throw, if you

1073
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: want to throw in the sneaky it's not a sneaky need.

1074
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: But the left guard spot is a need unless unless

1075
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: they address it with putting their golden child at right

1076
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: tackle and moving Lyle Collins the left guard. Yeah, that's

1077
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: that's where that's where this thing can that. They could

1078
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: take everything out of now adding a guy or two, sure,

1079
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: let's do it. But as far as a need, if

1080
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: they move Collins, that's going to take them out of

1081
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: draft in a green or somebody like that. I believe bold,

1082
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: my bold prediction, or you can tell me if it's bold.

1083
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: One of their first three picks, and quite possibly two

1084
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: is going to be a receiver. I don't think that

1085
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: they one or two they will pick up there. Yeah,

1086
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: they're looking at receiver. I don't think that's that bold

1087
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: because I think I mean, here, I thought I brought

1088
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: something spicy, bold, and tangy to the table. Anything's tell

1089
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: me it's bland. If you would have said that in

1090
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: the middle of season, it would have been bold. If

1091
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: you would have said that in week fourteen. Yeah, hey,

1092
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna go get a wide receiver in the first

1093
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: three rounds of the draft. I'm just not OPTI I'm

1094
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: just not optimists. This glass between us, I can't get

1095
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: to you. Do you have good reach your former offensive

1096
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: ya might cut might cut your arms down by your

1097
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: kneecat got me on two foot you reach gyle over here.

1098
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I don't know. It's it's early,

1099
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: but I just think the writings on the wall, I

1100
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: just think that's the one kind of the one position.

1101
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: Or maybe you can give me another one where you're like,

1102
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: I promise you their first three picks, this position will

1103
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: be kind of still offensive line. I still kind of

1104
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: feel like linebackers in that too. I would say, honestly,

1105
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: odds we hit them all there, offensive line, wide receiver,

1106
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: and linebacker or think order. I think there's a high

1107
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: chance at that. When do you think they would have

1108
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: to make a decision about Elsie if that's going to happen,

1109
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: and I have heard no mblings from anybody to give

1110
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: him the whole offseason to do it. I'm saying, yeah, see,

1111
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: we won't. You won't hear that because we need to

1112
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: be smarter about the questions that we might ask when

1113
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: that pre draft meeting about moving guys around, You know

1114
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: that mean we might not see this until we get

1115
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: out there to the OTA practice and they're already and

1116
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: then Lyle Collins's plan out. You just called me out,

1117
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: but make it a point to ask about it. No, no,

1118
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: But but I'm also saying this, though the question needs

1119
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: to be asked, is there any consideration of moving see

1120
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: to me after after the failure of the second time, well,

1121
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: I really want to failure. But when after after they

1122
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: moved McGovern out, I would have gone ahead and put

1123
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: Collins over at guard and put Steel at right tackle,

1124
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: just to see, give me fourth, Hey, we're not running

1125
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: the ball, we're really not protecting. Is it really the

1126
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: problem at the left guard spot? And I would have

1127
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: I would have at least looked at that to kind

1128
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: of get an idea. But to me personally, like I said,

1129
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: if you go up in this draft, I'm gonna go

1130
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: get one of those tackles, and I'm gonna move Collins

1131
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: to the left guard. That's what I'm gonna do. That's

1132
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: that's the guy I'm going for if I'm I'm gonna

1133
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: try and fix this office. So you're because my scenario

1134
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: is Charles Cross. Yeah. Yeah, if I'm gonna go, I'm

1135
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: going I'm gonna get one of these tackles and I'm

1136
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna and then what happens when the left tackle breaks down,

1137
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Cross. I'm gonna move him the other side,

1138
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: and I got still and I'm gonna plug him in.

1139
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: You know, That's what I'm gonna do. I was starting

1140
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: to get excited, and then I remembered that this future

1141
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: doesn't involve Amari Cooper and that bummed me out a

1142
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: little bit. Yep, not gonna lie. Trade down pig Zion

1143
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: Johnson captain trade down to my early captain trade down dream.

1144
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: Would he be your trade back guy? Yeah? Austin college

1145
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: guard Zion Johnson. Yeah. I think some NFL teams will

1146
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: have him as their top guard based on listening to people. Yeah,

1147
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: and I love it wrong. So yeah, Zion Johnson, you

1148
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 1: move down. Find me a way to get another second

1149
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: rounder or early third or whatever. Another thing to just

1150
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: throw in here. And I mentioned this a moment ago,

1151
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: But if you're doing these two scenarios and you're fixing

1152
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: the guard spot in the tackle spot and you're a

1153
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: little bit thin at wide receiver, you're also going back

1154
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: to Tyler Beiottish at center again for an entire NFL season?

1155
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: Am I crazy? If I don't think that's a big deal.

1156
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: I think it's Well, that's what I'm asking is it's

1157
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: not It's not a terrible idea. If I could draft

1158
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum, I would do it in a heartbeat because

1159
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: he's Tyler Linderbaum. Because but I do think I think

1160
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: it's easy. You're probably not upgrading it. So that's what

1161
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think it's easy to just dog Tyler

1162
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: Beotish Like. I don't think he's like just this problem

1163
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: that ruined their offense, you know, and that's kind of

1164
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: it took turns being problems. No he's not. He'sn't all

1165
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: on Williams and mcgovernor. He's not Travis Frederick. But I

1166
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: don't think like, if they don't upgrade that position, I

1167
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna like sink their offense. I kind

1168
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: of feel like that there's some centers there. This Alec

1169
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: Lendstrom from Boston College. Yeah, I kind of feel like

1170
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: that if they're really looking for a guy, there's I mean,

1171
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: if you miss out on linder I have him the

1172
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: third Okay, so that's what I was saying. I mean

1173
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: him and the Parum guy from Memphis. I know that's

1174
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: a conversion from a guard to the center spot, and

1175
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: it might be a little bit of a flip there,

1176
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: but I kind of feel like that there's there's like

1177
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: third round guys if they're really interested, if they miss

1178
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: out on Linderbaum, there's some centers that could be just

1179
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: as good as what you're what you're playing with right now.

1180
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: Jeff joked about this on Tuesday. I don't joke, is

1181
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: that right? Did our guy Green play center at all

1182
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: at A and M I know he played tackle. I

1183
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: don't believe he played all five spots, but never Dane

1184
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: said that last Yeah, Dane said all five spots. I

1185
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: talk at YouTube dot com so last Jeff Cavanaugh, Yeah

1186
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: that thing baby, Oh yeah, YouTube page. We did a

1187
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: draft thing last night with Dane Um. I didn't think

1188
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: he did, but I I don't see either. I didn't

1189
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: see him. I said he played right guard, left guard,

1190
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: right tackle, left tause I've seen him play. I've seen

1191
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: him playing all four. I've seen him played tackle against Alabama,

1192
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: and I've seen him play guard against LSU. You know

1193
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, thinking out loud, that's all. Yeah,

1194
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: I see if I can figure out the Kenyon Green

1195
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: see if he ever played center. Yeah, I've never seen

1196
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: it with my own eyes. I have not either, and

1197
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he did last year. But that doesn't

1198
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: mean that he didn't at some point. Because he can

1199
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: play wherever, and he's a badass. I think I wouldn't

1200
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: mind doing that, Like, I mean, trade back with Zion

1201
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: for Zion no pick Green at twenty four? Oh okay?

1202
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, And I do want to say,

1203
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: position flex means nothing if you're not awesome. Yeah, I

1204
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: just want that out there. Two. They tell you about

1205
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: position flex, like this guy can play some guards, some tackle. No,

1206
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: most guys that they tell you about position flex, it

1207
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: means he can't play. Kenyan Green can play all of

1208
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: them because he can play. Zach Martin could play left

1209
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: tackle tomorrow. You know why, because he can play. It's

1210
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: kind of a guard, kind of a tackle. He can't play.

1211
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons can rush the pass because he's Micah Parson,

1212
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: because I can play. Along that line, we can probably

1213
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: put like Connor McGovern as center to bed can't play

1214
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: because wouldn't you have done it by now? Yeah? Yeah,

1215
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: like he doesn't have play. I believe, I believe you

1216
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: have to be anything. I don't think Joe Philbin was

1217
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: a big fan of his. Yeah, that that was a

1218
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: problem certainly doesn't seem that way. I'm not a big

1219
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: fan of shows. This was fun, guys. We got into

1220
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: the weeds a little bit very I'm we're gonna call

1221
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: this the hypothetical show. Good conversation, This is a good

1222
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: draft show. Thank you. I want you to know that

1223
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: you did a great job. Absolutely bring bring trade up

1224
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: for you, and bring you would trade up for me? Yeah,

1225
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: take your adder all before the show every week. By

1226
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 1: the way, Kenyan Green one snap career at center. Bam

1227
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: played all five. He played, He played all five, but

1228
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: he count one snap and it was in twenty twenty.

1229
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: All right, Well, gentlemen, uh enjoy the weekend. I'll see

1230
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: you back here on Tuesday morning. We'll figure out. You know,

1231
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: we'll probably talk about some draft prospects if I had

1232
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: to guess. Please, doll, thanks for listening to the Draft show.

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Speaker 1: H Yeah, we'll catch you all next time. This has

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