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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Stephen Ferdick.

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Speaker 2: I'm the pastor of Elevation Church and this is our podcast.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to thank you for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: Hope this inspires you. Hope it builds your faith.

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Speaker 2: Hope it gives your perspective to see God is moving

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Speaker 2: in your life.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the message. Look, I want to preach.

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Speaker 2: About joy today and I want to get there from

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Speaker 2: a story and then share several scriptures with you can't

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Speaker 2: tell your story. I just got a new car last year.

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Speaker 2: I drove a Nissan Maxima for ten years before I

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Speaker 2: bought this new car.

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Speaker 1: I loved my Nissan Maxima.

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Speaker 2: My car before this Nissan Maxima was a Nissan Maxima.

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Speaker 2: That's how much I liked my Nissan Maxima. I maximized

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Speaker 2: the Maxima and it was very good to me. Only

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Speaker 2: thing that I ever remember happening, other than the time

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Speaker 2: it cut off in an intersection, was that one day

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Speaker 2: I was driving down the road a few years ago

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Speaker 2: and my stereo system started doing strange things. It started

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Speaker 2: skipping around to different tracks without me telling it too,

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Speaker 2: and the volume kept increasing and decreasing, and so then.

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Speaker 1: I would put it back on the song. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to listen to.

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Speaker 2: And I would turn down the volume or turn up

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Speaker 2: the volume, depending on it would go both ways without

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Speaker 2: me telling it too, without me turning the knob, and

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Speaker 2: it happened for about ten to fifteen minutes straight one

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Speaker 2: day that I was driving, and it seemed like my

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Speaker 2: speakers in my car had a mind of their own.

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Speaker 1: So I thought maybe my Maxima got a demon, and.

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Speaker 2: Then I looked in the backseat and realized it wasn't

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Speaker 2: a demon.

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Speaker 1: It was my daughter.

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Speaker 2: That she had the center console down and I never

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Speaker 2: rode back there, so I didn't realize that all the

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Speaker 2: years that I've had this car, you can control the

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Speaker 2: volume and skip tracks.

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Speaker 2: and they thought it was so funny, and I told

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Speaker 2: him stop that it's annoying. When I figured out what

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Speaker 2: they were doing, two or three minutes later, there goes

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Speaker 2: the volume up and down again. There goes track two,

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Speaker 2: track three, track four. Again, it's on shuffle. And I

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Speaker 2: but it's really driving me crazy up here. Stop and

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Speaker 2: a few minutes go by and it starts happening again.

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Speaker 2: I pulled the car over the third time. I pulled

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Speaker 2: the car over the third time. I'm Providence Road. I said,

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Speaker 2: let me explain something to you. I said, y'all are

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Speaker 2: passengers in this maximum I'm the driver.

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Speaker 1: That means I'm the DJ.

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Speaker 2: I get to choose what comes on this stereo and

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Speaker 2: how loud it is because the driver gets.

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Speaker 1: To be the DJ.

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Speaker 2: I want to ap preach to you for about thirty

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Speaker 2: seven minutes today about back seat DJs, because I suspect

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Speaker 2: that there are some things in your life that are

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Speaker 2: at a level that you're not realizing that they're being controlled.

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Speaker 2: And I believe that today God is going to use

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Speaker 1: I study.

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Speaker 2: Joy has become more important to me every year that

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Speaker 2: I've been alive. I feel like in my twenties I

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Speaker 2: just cared about accomplishing things. I've been figuring out, what's

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Speaker 2: the point if you don't enjoy it? What's the point

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Speaker 2: position to appreciate the accomplishment because you constantly need more.

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Speaker 2: And I spent my twenties and maybe the beginning of

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Speaker 2: my thirties just trying to get more, more, more. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: that meant more popularity. Sometimes that meant more impact. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: For more joy, and it sent me on a scriptural trajectory, and.

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Speaker 2: Would it be all right if we talked for a

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Speaker 1: Amen? I'm excited. Do you feel my enthusiasm? James?

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Speaker 2: Chapter one, Verses two through four. We'll start here. I

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Speaker 1: To teach us how to develop joy. Very different than

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Speaker 2: Discovering joy means it's waiting somewhere and you got to

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Speaker 2: find it. It's waiting in your next career move, it's

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Speaker 2: waiting in your next relationship.

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Speaker 2: But James is going to show us something that may

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Speaker 2: I'm going to just read those verses, just three verses

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Speaker 2: to you, he says, James, Chapter one, verus to consider

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Speaker 2: it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face

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Speaker 1: That's not where I was looking for joy.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that's not what I was praying for,

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Speaker 2: He said, consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters,

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Speaker 2: whenever you face trials of many kinds. Because you know

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Speaker 2: that the testing of your faith produces perseverance, Let perseverance

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Speaker 2: So the first one is the distinction of joy, the

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Speaker 2: King James that Pastor Mickey preached from said, diverse trials

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Speaker 2: because I have learned that we're not all going through

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Speaker 2: And how many know that there are as many different

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Speaker 2: I found out that there are trials that are associated

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Speaker 2: with plenty. There are trials that are associated with poverty.

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Speaker 2: I always understood the first one because everybody understands that

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Speaker 2: being broke is a battle. But management of resources can,

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Speaker 2: in its own way, test a part of your character

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Speaker 2: that if you're not prepared to have it testing, it

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Speaker 2: can create a lot more problems than financial poverty. In fact,

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Speaker 2: There's single people trials, there's married people trials. There are

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Speaker 2: Distinction, that there's different kinds of trials, And some of

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Speaker 2: us are like, well, can I try a different kind

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Speaker 2: for those trials. But we never again, after the year

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Speaker 2: And so there's different kinds of trials. Added to that,

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Speaker 2: as easily be referring to economic hardship or persecution that

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Speaker 2: for your bad decisions. There are different.

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Speaker 2: the Bible teaches resistance.

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Speaker 2: that's what James one to five says, and it's connected

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Speaker 2: to this passage, even though I never thought it was.

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Speaker 2: It says, if any of you lacks wisdom, you should

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Speaker 2: and it will be given to you. Now, if you

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Speaker 2: It's making you feel worse, it's making them feel worse,

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Speaker 2: the distinction, to know the trial that I'm in. God

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Speaker 2: is this one that you want me to fight or

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Speaker 2: do you want me to do what the Parables said

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Speaker 1: There's a distinction. There's different kinds of trials.

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Speaker 2: Some of the stuff that I'm dealing with as a

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Speaker 1: It's a different kind of trial. It's just life.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know those little church signs that they do.

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Speaker 2: By the way, at elevation the church signs where they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this. I think we should get one.

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Speaker 1: How many vote we get a church sign.

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Speaker 2: Let's have our first ever church voted elevation church vote.

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Speaker 2: Jesus, you don't have Jesus, you don't have joy k

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Speaker 1: No Jesus, no Joy. There's a lot of things you

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Speaker 2: Good whether you're saved or not.

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Speaker 1: My taste buds didn't get saved. It's fun to.

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Speaker 2: I've always loved this picture of joy because it helps

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Speaker 1: Joy and pleasure. Okay, pleasure can.

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Speaker 2: I've found that out about myself early in life. I

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Speaker 2: Some of y'all appreciate the rain, appreciate the sunshine. The

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Speaker 2: You can find the joy in everything. I am not

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but it sets me free

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