Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 3: Everybody is the DJ.
Speaker 4: En Vy Jess hilarious Charlomagne, the guy we are the
Speaker 4: breakfast Club Ess is on maternity leave, so laurla Rosa
Speaker 4: is feeling and we got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 2: Big money in the building, Big, big money in the building.
Speaker 5: Wow, big b Robert Craft is here, he said, he
Speaker 5: has a nickname. He said, I'm god you Envy Lauren
Speaker 5: is single.
Speaker 2: So what do.
Speaker 6: You nice to meet you?
Speaker 1: I'm a newly But here's the deal. Well, I have
Speaker 1: a new football coach and we had this big introduction.
Speaker 2: And about for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's awesome. Man. He calls me young Thundercat,
Speaker 1: your thundercat, so you can call me r k K
Speaker 1: or Young Thundercat as he addresses it. And he started
Speaker 1: calling me that back in eight when we drafted him.
Speaker 1: So I've known him for you know, like fifteen years.
Speaker 2: And why did ThunderCats?
Speaker 1: You're a fan of the Cartoonough, I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: ask him that he's the one who named me.
Speaker 3: Come from somewhere.
Speaker 5: What did you see from Gerard that made you hire
Speaker 5: him as the first black head coach of the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I saw him come in on our
Speaker 1: team as a tenth pick. We picked him in the
Speaker 1: first round and that was actually at the time the
Speaker 1: highest pick we had ever had since I owned the team.
Speaker 1: That was in eight And the second year he was
Speaker 1: with I think he got voted defensive Rookie of the year,
Speaker 1: you know, number one. And then in the second year
Speaker 1: with us, he got elected captain and guys voted for
Speaker 1: him whould won Super Bowls. So it told me something
Speaker 1: that he could get respect of people that you know,
Speaker 1: and in locker rooms I watched little things. And anyhow,
Speaker 1: he played for US for the next seven years, or
Speaker 1: he was with us. He played eight years, and then
Speaker 1: he left US and went in the private industry, worked
Speaker 1: in private industry, you know, reached back out and said
Speaker 1: he really wanted to get into coaching, and he coached
Speaker 1: US three four years, and so the varied experience was special.
Speaker 1: Now I've taken twenty seven missions to the Holy Land,
Speaker 1: mainly Christians and athletes who haven't seen the country about Israel,
Speaker 1: pardon ise, yes. And when we were there, we had
Speaker 1: a group of athletes and we were delayed at the
Speaker 1: airport and I think they were like over twenty. He
Speaker 1: organized them in the airport. He got a discussion going
Speaker 1: and showed just unique leadership. You know, and in life,
Speaker 1: when you're hanging with people, you know, you connect for
Speaker 1: different reasons. And the light went off, and I said,
Speaker 1: anyone that can relate like this to young people because
Speaker 1: the world is different than I bought the team thirty
Speaker 1: one years ago. Wow. And you know I've watched the
Speaker 1: transition of players, the impact of social media, how you relate,
Speaker 1: it's different. You got to adapt. And I just thought
Speaker 1: he had something special. I respected. I call my eldest
Speaker 1: son from the Holy Land that night and I said,
Speaker 1: I think I got our next head coach. Wow, what's
Speaker 1: five years ago?
Speaker 3: What still excites you?
Speaker 4: I mean, you did the Super Bowl thing, you owned
Speaker 4: all different types of teams, You're a philanthropists, you travel
Speaker 4: around the world.
Speaker 3: What's doing with your riches? But I was at that point, No,
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable. Why right?
Speaker 6: That shi version of comfortable?
Speaker 2: We are poor. Let me hold some uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Let me hold Can I tell you something? And it's
Speaker 1: why you know today we launched a campaign to stop
Speaker 1: all hate. Why Why? Yeah? Time out again. But why
Speaker 1: did I do it? Because I was a kid who
Speaker 1: lived in a walk up apartment. I you know, I
Speaker 1: went to college on a full scholarship. I went to
Speaker 1: graduate business school on a full scholarship, didn't have a
Speaker 1: car to I was twenty five and I dreamt big
Speaker 1: and I had my dreams and I was able to
Speaker 1: make a number of them come true. Look, I own
Speaker 1: an NFL franchise in my hometown. You know, I had
Speaker 1: a greater chance of being a starting quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: There are thirty two quarterbacks, and some of these teams
Speaker 1: don't sell for one hundred years. But I did the
Speaker 1: things along the way I had to do, and we
Speaker 1: start a little paper and packaging company fifty two years ago.
Speaker 1: We're in one hundred and twenty seven countries today, and
Speaker 1: it's all because of our country and opportunities for anyone
Speaker 1: who wants to take advantage of it. And I see
Speaker 1: things changing, and you know, that's why I started this campaign.
Speaker 5: It seems like you've always well. In more recent times,
Speaker 5: it seems like you've been involved in public service. Has
Speaker 5: that always been your thing? Have you always been involved
Speaker 5: in community issues and what's going on in society.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was privileged to have great parents. It was
Speaker 1: a sort of a wild kid, a middle child, and
Speaker 1: I had a mom and dad who gave me great love.
Speaker 1: But my mom really discipline me, thank God. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you're blessed to have one or two parents who
Speaker 1: give you good love and discipline, that's worth more than
Speaker 1: financial resources for you to operate in the world, because
Speaker 1: he gives you a strong foundation. But to answer your question,
Speaker 1: I had a dad. While he didn't have material riches,
Speaker 1: he was the greatest man I ever knew because he
Speaker 1: was spiritual and he left me in ethical will and
Speaker 1: he said, when you go to bed at night, make
Speaker 1: sure the people you've touched that day are richer for
Speaker 1: having known you. And he even though he had modest income,
Speaker 1: he taught me a rule. He said, you always give
Speaker 1: ten percent of whatever your income is away as a
Speaker 1: minimum to people who are more needy. Wow, and the
Speaker 1: only you know, he was a great man And the
Speaker 1: only thing I ever heard my parents argue about and
Speaker 1: was about money because he was so good. He never
Speaker 1: was able to accumulate, but he was just what. I
Speaker 1: was blessed to have that legacy. So I asked all
Speaker 1: of us out there who are privileged to have kids
Speaker 1: to invest that time and energy and try to give
Speaker 1: similar values.
Speaker 4: Now, when did you I don't want to say, when
Speaker 4: did you realize? But a lot of times people with
Speaker 4: a lot of money don't understand how bad it is
Speaker 4: for other people because they're never there. But you, on
Speaker 4: the other hand, are completely opposite. Like you, you do
Speaker 4: things that most people don't do it. We've seen you
Speaker 4: do it with Meek, we see you do it with
Speaker 4: all these other organizations.
Speaker 1: Why well, it goes back to my dad. But I mean,
Speaker 1: the quality that we've lost in society today is empathy.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't listen to the what's going on.
Speaker 1: And look, that's why I think your show is amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You connect with four or five million people,
Speaker 1: you give a message eight but who's counting eight million?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's twelve and they're under reporting it. You don't
Speaker 1: have to pay it for those ads. That's right the
Speaker 1: way they should that's probably the case. But think about it.
Speaker 1: You're relating in a way that people can connect, and
Speaker 1: your messaging connects. And what's happened in the world today
Speaker 1: is people aren't caring about other people. And look, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what it's like to walk in
Speaker 1: a room and be a man of color or a
Speaker 1: woman of color, and how people treat you and what
Speaker 1: your psyche is, how you have to act and it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's got to be difficult in many ways.
Speaker 1: That why people don't understand or don't empathize with. But
Speaker 1: we have we as society have to understand that and
Speaker 1: have to We're all human beings. We had no choice
Speaker 1: the way we came into this world, you know. And
Speaker 1: if you were blessed to have one or two good parents,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the greatest. But if not, you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta The thing that bothers me now is people
Speaker 1: are just going in their own lanes and not opening up,
Speaker 1: and especially social media is creating that where you know,
Speaker 1: people just talk to one another in a way. You know,
Speaker 1: how did I build my businesses. I would relate to
Speaker 1: someone who was much different than I and I had
Speaker 1: to listen to what that person was saying and maybe
Speaker 1: change my way or go to the where that person
Speaker 1: is thinking. And then it's the only way you can
Speaker 1: do big things. But today people aren't doing that. They're
Speaker 1: just going in their own lanes and staying with the
Speaker 1: similar people. We got to change that.
Speaker 2: I agree. What do you think the difference is?
Speaker 5: What's the differ between Time Out Against Hate and your
Speaker 5: nonprofit to Foundation to Combat Anti Semitism?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I started this Foundation of Combat Anti
Speaker 1: Semitism back in twenty nineteen because I saw what was
Speaker 1: going on in charlottevillein seventeen guys carrying signs saying Jews
Speaker 1: or Blacks won't replace us. And then in nineteen the
Speaker 1: Tree of Life in a synagogue. You know, you have
Speaker 1: someone come and shoot and kill people. Think about going
Speaker 1: to church. Church is a place where you have some
Speaker 1: kind of spiritual connection. You don't feel safe in the
Speaker 1: United States of America. So I saw signs in twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen what was going on in Nazi Germany in the thirties,
Speaker 1: and I don't want America to be what Germany was
Speaker 1: in the forties. So I started this foundation because it
Speaker 1: usually starts. The hate starts over the last hundred years.
Speaker 1: If you look at history with Jewish people, and then
Speaker 1: it goes to every group, black, gay, Hispanic, Asian, you
Speaker 1: name it. And look, this country was great to me.
Speaker 1: We you know, we've had a lot of improprieties. Think
Speaker 1: the way people of color have been treated, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: the whole concept of slavery. I mean, in the modern world,
Speaker 1: I can't believe that people that, and so we have
Speaker 1: to make it right and build bridges. And those of
Speaker 1: us that are privileged to be able to do things
Speaker 1: and pay our bills, we got to find ways to
Speaker 1: build bridges and bring people together. And this country, with
Speaker 1: all its faults, is still the greatest country in the world.
Speaker 1: Think about it. We elected a man of color as president.
Speaker 1: There's no other Western country that's done that. So with
Speaker 1: all our faults, and we still got to correct a
Speaker 1: lot of things. And I think the most injustices have
Speaker 1: been done to people of color. You know you mentioned Meek.
Speaker 1: Can I just say this because of course, yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean I had developed no one believes Meek and I
Speaker 1: are really friends, and I had developed a relationship with
Speaker 1: him through a mutual friend, Michael Rubin, And he started
Speaker 1: calling me and asking me questions about how he could
Speaker 1: grow and prosper. And then he got thrown in jail
Speaker 1: for doing a wheelie invited me to visit in jail.
Speaker 1: Now I'd never been to a jail, and going and
Speaker 1: visiting him in jail changed my life. I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: in the United States of America, we would take a guy. Look,
Speaker 1: he could be out earning millions of dollars, hiring employees,
Speaker 1: paying people's salaries that could help their family, paying taxes,
Speaker 1: paying taxes, and our system, you know, because of bigotry,
Speaker 1: is putting a guy in jail. It was great, and
Speaker 1: when I met him, it really changed my life. He
Speaker 1: was nice, and he told me they fixed up the
Speaker 1: jail when they painted it. They knew I was coming,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to me, and he was nice. I said,
Speaker 1: how come you don't have an edge? I'd be ticked,
Speaker 1: you know exactly. He said, I expected it. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I got into it my with my buddy
Speaker 1: and I came out by the way and I spoke
Speaker 1: to the media after listen. He got out of jail
Speaker 1: two three days later, and he told me I made
Speaker 1: a difference, not and it just told me how screwed
Speaker 1: up our system was. And we got to change this
Speaker 1: whole bail and situation. And because of that, a few
Speaker 1: of us got together, you know, Michael and jay Z
Speaker 1: and Meek and myself when we started this reform alliance
Speaker 1: to try we we we have to correct that system.
Speaker 1: It's a great injustice in America.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 5: I want to go back to something you said, because
Speaker 5: you have donated money to Democratic politicians. You donated the
Speaker 5: money to President Obama's campaign out of all the NFL owners,
Speaker 5: But you talked about what happened in Charlottesville. You're also
Speaker 5: good friends with Donald Trump, and in twenty seventeen you
Speaker 5: said Trump would be great for the economy. So how
Speaker 5: do you feel about him in twenty twenty four because
Speaker 5: he's fueled a lot of the dangerous things that have
Speaker 5: happened that you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let me just say I've been I'm a Democrat.
Speaker 1: I've been. I was head of the Democratic City Committee
Speaker 1: in Brookline and Newton, and I ran Teddy Kennedy's re
Speaker 1: election campaign with a young man called Tommy O'Neill in
Speaker 1: Boston who was Tip O'Neill's son. And I've always been democratic.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump became a social friend in the early nineties
Speaker 1: when I was going down to Florida, and then when
Speaker 1: my wife a blessed him. Memory died thirteen years ago.
Speaker 1: He was one of four or five people who reached
Speaker 1: out to me and was really really nice. I've not
Speaker 1: The only donation I ever gave to him was he
Speaker 1: called me when he got elected and I made a
Speaker 1: strong donation to his inauguration. I couldn't believe it. It was
Speaker 1: like having someone who's a drunk fraternity brother become president.
Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't believe, you know, he was you know,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think he did things. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: say this, but since I was very upset what happened
Speaker 1: January sixth, Uh.
Speaker 2: Pardon, I think he led an insurrection in his country.
Speaker 1: And I haven't talked to him since then. Did you
Speaker 1: reach out to him after that?
Speaker 6: I was going to ask, did you reach out to
Speaker 6: him after that to have a conversation, because if you're upset.
Speaker 1: No, I was really upset because, just like what's going
Speaker 1: on with our campaign to stop eight, there are things
Speaker 1: going on in the country. Look, I can pay my bills.
Speaker 1: God's been good, except for losing my first wife. I'm
Speaker 1: one of the luckiest guys walking the planet. Wow. So
Speaker 1: I want to build bridges, bring people together, you know,
Speaker 1: and haven't owning the Patriots, As you know, I worked
Speaker 1: very hard to get it. There's a book called the dynasty.
Speaker 1: That explains the whole story. But the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: came to me because I used to sit in the
Speaker 1: stands and dream about own it what I do. And
Speaker 1: you know nine to eleven happened. Four months later we
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl a team called the Patriots in
Speaker 1: America wearing red, white and blue uniforms.
Speaker 5: My dad thought that was a conspiracy back then because
Speaker 5: Cowboys fans and so we alway say the Cowboys as
Speaker 5: an America's team. And I remember when he y'all won
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl and he was like, this is a conspiracy.
Speaker 5: Nine to eleven just happened? Did the NFL rig this
Speaker 5: for the Patriots to win?
Speaker 1: Well? I understand dad saying that because Cowboy fans are
Speaker 1: very loyal, but we're red, white and blue. Our name
Speaker 1: was the Patriots. Boston is a city of six hundred
Speaker 1: thousand people. What happened twenty four hours later, one of
Speaker 1: the coldest days, I think it was February third or fourth,
Speaker 1: A million and a half people came to the streets
Speaker 1: of Boston. Gay people, black people, Asians, whites, everyone came
Speaker 1: to celebrate the team. And it just showed me the
Speaker 1: power of sport. In a way. It's why, you know,
Speaker 1: with this campaign to stop all hate our foundation, we
Speaker 1: worked hard as a first time in over one hundred years,
Speaker 1: all the sports leagues unity, and that's what we need.
Speaker 1: Brothers and sisters. I mean, we're all. We didn't have
Speaker 1: any choice how we're born, what religion we're born, what
Speaker 1: skin color, how our eyes are shaped, what we look like.
Speaker 1: But you know, we got a chance. You know, hopefully
Speaker 1: you're born with good characteristics where you can function and
Speaker 1: not have certain proclivities that keep you from doing things.
Speaker 1: So I just my life is about bill and bridges,
Speaker 1: given everyone a chance. It's good business for us to
Speaker 1: have everyone who's born in this world to live their dreams.
Speaker 3: I got to ask a question. You said you're a Democrat.
Speaker 4: Most people would assume that you would be a Republican
Speaker 4: because of the tax breaks and the money and that
Speaker 4: and all that other stuff. So what made you say
Speaker 4: I want to be a Democrat?
Speaker 1: What made you for the people? No, I was That's
Speaker 1: how I got elected. When I was in my twenties.
Speaker 1: There's a very liberal community and they older people and
Speaker 1: they were fighting and they picked me because I just
Speaker 1: I want to build bridges and I thought, I'm a
Speaker 1: little disturbed with the Democratic Party today.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a group of progressives who have
Speaker 1: come in that are not building bridges and listening, and
Speaker 1: they're preaching hate just the same way they never used
Speaker 1: to be in extreme like that, the way it's done
Speaker 1: on the right. And you know, I think, you know
Speaker 1: we need anyway. Once you can pay your bills, you
Speaker 1: got to work to try to If you have your
Speaker 1: health and pay your bills, God's been good. You got
Speaker 1: to then work to make the surrounding things around you good.
Speaker 1: You know. I love the way one hundred years ago
Speaker 1: the black and Jewish Jewish people their skin is in black,
Speaker 1: but after you know, the discrimination to the Jewish community
Speaker 1: has been the same to black except for that. We
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what it's like to walk in
Speaker 1: a room and have people look at you like that,
Speaker 1: Like people might not know when I walk into a room.
Speaker 1: But I stay true to what my values and what
Speaker 1: I've been and you know, try to be a good human.
Speaker 1: The Vice president campaign, I haven't I've I haven't supported
Speaker 1: any political person since I've started this Blue Square because
Speaker 1: I don't want to be political. I want what's best
Speaker 1: for the country. And actually, I'm really worried. Part of
Speaker 1: the reason we started this campaign and itn't inaugurated today
Speaker 1: with these ads that are going to run. There's an
Speaker 1: ad that's gonna run on the game tonight. We just
Speaker 1: did a big interview with NBC that aired and CNBC
Speaker 1: and this is my second stop on a one of
Speaker 1: the biggest days, and it comes out of respect to
Speaker 1: you all and your audience and the message we're trying
Speaker 1: to get out there.
Speaker 5: Well, if you're against bigotry and you're against hate, why
Speaker 5: would you choose not to be involved in the election
Speaker 5: in this year like Trump have an opportunity to be
Speaker 5: back in the White House. You said you didn't like
Speaker 5: what he did on January six, let an insurrection in
Speaker 5: this country, So why wouldn't you want to be involved?
Speaker 1: Because when I started this foundation, as soon as you
Speaker 1: take a political position or stay, you alienate I. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't have the answer. You know, I've met
Speaker 1: with the Vice President's husband, He's come and visited our
Speaker 1: I hope one day you you all come and see
Speaker 1: our command center where we have a wall tied to
Speaker 1: three hundred million websites all over the world and we're
Speaker 1: watching trends and hate and we're trying to monitor it.
Speaker 1: And you know, we've worked with Doug M. Hoff on thistly.
Speaker 1: White House is app to him as leading in this effort.
Speaker 1: But once we take a side politically, then we alienate people.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to. I want everyone what we're
Speaker 1: preaching in our foundation. And you look, we're able to
Speaker 1: get the seven sports leagues and NASCAR, which is mid
Speaker 1: America and a different I don't know how many NASCAR
Speaker 1: fans are listening to your show, but we were able
Speaker 1: to bring them all together and they're all together preaching
Speaker 1: against hate and trying to keep civility, instill the greatest
Speaker 1: with all our faults in this country, we're the greatest
Speaker 1: country for opportunity. Look look what you folks are doing
Speaker 1: with this show, but we got to work at it.
Speaker 5: Is my last political question, So why tell people you're
Speaker 5: a Democrat? And I was shocking you said that because
Speaker 5: of the fact you're an owner of detention.
Speaker 2: That's OK.
Speaker 1: You can go back and look when I was twenty
Speaker 1: eight years old, I was elected chair that I'm probably
Speaker 1: an independent. Now, well, I have not what I don't want.
Speaker 1: I used to think I would run for political office.
Speaker 1: I had the privilege of being elected present my class,
Speaker 1: senior class high school and then in college, and I
Speaker 1: love doing that. But then the more I got out
Speaker 1: and trying to support my family, I saw that politics
Speaker 1: there was too much phoniness and just it wasn't something
Speaker 1: I wanted to vote my time to. So I decided
Speaker 1: I could have a bigger impact doing philanthropy. Once I
Speaker 1: started making a few dollars and trying to be showing
Speaker 1: initiative as a businessman, doing my philanthropic things and trying
Speaker 1: to be creative, It's like getting exposure to me. I'd
Speaker 1: never been to a jail, I told you, and I
Speaker 1: saw the craziness, and that got us to start together
Speaker 1: with the partners the Reform Alliance, that we should get
Speaker 1: a million people, you know, change their situation to give
Speaker 1: them a chance to get out in society. But we're
Speaker 1: doing that in other areas. And once you get political,
Speaker 1: you alienate people. And I'm sorry now I wanted to know.
Speaker 6: So by you saying you're not getting involved in an election,
Speaker 6: that doesn't are you going to vote though? Absolutely okay,
Speaker 6: but you just don't want to come out and see
Speaker 6: who you're voting for.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because when you do that. Let me just
Speaker 1: say this, people from both sides, both parties, right at
Speaker 1: the top, have reached out to us and want us
Speaker 1: to be involved. And I don't. I think we bring
Speaker 1: more value to this country and to people who are
Speaker 1: needy by being in the position we're in and not.
Speaker 1: I just look. I see my ancestors came here as immigrants.
Speaker 1: I went to school on scholarship. The country allowed me
Speaker 1: to go function and fight battles and dream my dream.
Speaker 1: I want that for everyone coming into this country. And
Speaker 1: when you get involved in politics, you know, it's sad
Speaker 1: to me to see that. You know, I go back.
Speaker 1: None of you were on the earth when Ronald Reagan
Speaker 1: was president. But when he was president, there was a
Speaker 1: guy who was Speaker of the House by the name
Speaker 1: of Tip O'Neil. He was from Massachusetts, Cambridge where how
Speaker 1: it is, and you know, they used to fight each
Speaker 1: other like crazy during the day five point thirty they'd
Speaker 1: have a beer and then they go play nine holes
Speaker 1: and they do business for America. Today we're not doing that.
Speaker 1: People don't even listen to one another. They're not coming together.
Speaker 1: And my life will be about building bridges and bringing
Speaker 1: all people to the best of my ability and fighting hate.
Speaker 1: Now think about I'm very proud that we were able
Speaker 1: to bring all the sports commissioners, women, men, NASCAR together
Speaker 1: to do this campaign of time out. By the way,
Speaker 1: what is the time out? When do you call that?
Speaker 1: In a sport? You're doing it when things aren't going right.
Speaker 1: You want to win. You want to win your game.
Speaker 1: You've got to readjust your strategy and do things that'll
Speaker 1: be good that allow you to win. That's what we're
Speaker 1: doing in America. We're trying to call a time out
Speaker 1: and have all people come together. How do I benefit
Speaker 1: by demeaning anyone, any group that's given there, even if
Speaker 1: they think differently than I. I want them to have
Speaker 1: their chance, but do it straight and be respectful of all.
Speaker 4: Do you think that's the reason why you're so your
Speaker 4: franchise is so successful. We look at all these other franchises.
Speaker 4: You've had a very successful franchise other than my New
Speaker 4: York Giants. But besides that, do you think that's the
Speaker 4: why because you have that way of thinking of unity
Speaker 4: and getting it together.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you when we bought as a good question,
Speaker 1: I always have tried to incorporate everyone. When we bought
Speaker 1: the Patriot, you know, in thirty four years, they had
Speaker 1: never sold out, so the local games are always blacked out.
Speaker 1: I sat in those stands dreaming what I would do,
Speaker 1: and when I was privileged to take it over, I
Speaker 1: tried to bring everyone in. And then the first year
Speaker 1: we sold out, we got over one hundred thousand people
Speaker 1: on a paid waiting list to buy seats to something
Speaker 1: that wasn't that way, and you know, I have the
Speaker 1: good fortune to have it. We drafted this guy by
Speaker 1: the name of Brady, and I heard him. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I know most people.
Speaker 3: The Giants. Giants have heard of him a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Well in the Big Apple, you guys. You know we're
Speaker 1: in Beantown, in the village up there. But you know,
Speaker 1: and I also, I decided with my nose to hire
Speaker 1: a coach that they went to me I shouldn't. And
Speaker 1: I kept them together for twenty years, and we built
Speaker 1: bridges the way I'm talking about here. We kept it together.
Speaker 1: And you know, in our history, since we've bought our Patriots,
Speaker 1: we have the best winning percentage for championships of any
Speaker 1: sports team in any league. Anywhere in the world, and
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of that.
Speaker 5: That's because y'all cheat, and which I don't have a
Speaker 5: problem with.
Speaker 2: I was my cowboys and cheat.
Speaker 1: Okay, but see what you're saying. That's what I call
Speaker 1: envy and jealous.
Speaker 3: And even one in a long time.
Speaker 1: Look at you, folks, you're doing this show. You don't
Speaker 1: think there are people that hate you that you're so successful.
Speaker 1: I want to try to throw digs and throw of course,
Speaker 1: so jealous in envy? I wan, I have a saying, Actually.
Speaker 6: Oh please, I mean jealousy envy.
Speaker 5: Okay, this is an rkka that jealousy and envy are
Speaker 5: incurable diseases. And it's the one time it is better
Speaker 5: to be a recipient than a donor.
Speaker 6: Carry around all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I give him off.
Speaker 2: About three other things in your pocket you coulda gave me.
Speaker 1: I'm a slavone, you know.
Speaker 5: Want to ask, like, there's always this debate between Belichick
Speaker 5: and Brady and who's responsible for the Patriots success? How
Speaker 5: much credit should you get put your name in those competitions.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna I'll let you decide that. Here's the deal.
Speaker 1: We were in business thirty four years. How many home
Speaker 1: playoff games do you think they had in those thirty
Speaker 1: four years the Patriots.
Speaker 2: It's a good question.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: How many home games playoff games?
Speaker 2: No, no, hell, no way, more thing too, maybe like
Speaker 2: twenty two.
Speaker 1: You're half right for one one why and they lost
Speaker 1: to the Houston Oilists. I was sitting in the stands
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell, you remember that name. Yeah, he ran for
Speaker 1: over two hundred yuys and we lost. And I believe
Speaker 1: you know, we've had thirty one home playoff games and
Speaker 1: one twenty seven in the thirty years we've we've gone
Speaker 1: to ten Super Bowls and one six.
Speaker 5: I heard the question, I thought you meant when you
Speaker 5: were how many playoff games did y'all.
Speaker 2: Have at home?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you met the Patriots before. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Excuse me for not be But anyhow, what you folks
Speaker 1: have created here is amazing.
Speaker 2: We're trying to be a dynasty like y'all are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what to do it in the
Speaker 1: medium you're doing and being it's much hotter in the
Speaker 1: media world to keep it here and the fact that
Speaker 1: you're relevant and doing it so you can influence people.
Speaker 1: And I just hope. We're building on the building blocks
Speaker 1: that are good that I know. We got a lot
Speaker 1: of problems in the country, but it's still the best.
Speaker 2: Agree the tom need build to Bill need time.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, well, I don't know, all right,
Speaker 1: you're not married?
Speaker 2: No, hell no.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys, a lot of guys are having
Speaker 1: their eye in that direction. I see, are you toube married.
Speaker 2: Twenty three years, twenty six years? Married for ten? But
Speaker 2: bid my wife for twenty six years twenty three years?
Speaker 1: So think about your man and by the way, that decision.
Speaker 1: If you get the right person, you're going to go
Speaker 1: through tough time. Absolutely, but you stay together, especially if
Speaker 1: you have kids and the dividends you'll get later. But
Speaker 1: who's more responsible? We're keeping it together? How do you
Speaker 1: answer that? And that's what's easy.
Speaker 6: My wife Okay, I knew where you were going, like said,
Speaker 6: take dependent, but they're smart, they're not answer my wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get it. That's why she not only
Speaker 1: has a good look, she's got the brain.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Wait, so you and Belichick like, what's the
Speaker 6: relationship now, because you know it's been on and off,
Speaker 6: rumors that y'all don't really do that y'all don't really
Speaker 6: like each other like that.
Speaker 1: Look, I mean I kept him for twenty four years.
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, I didn't enjoy having to fire him,
Speaker 1: but I try to do it. If you look at
Speaker 1: the press conference and how it happened, try to do
Speaker 1: it in a classy way. And what he did for
Speaker 1: us was great. You know, people need to adapt and
Speaker 1: if they don't, or look at you folks together, things
Speaker 1: can change in life. It's about getting good chemistry and
Speaker 1: trust and feel that. You know, our record the last
Speaker 1: three to four years wasn't what I wanted. And I
Speaker 1: had given him so much power. He had full control
Speaker 1: over everything, and shame on me. I should have had
Speaker 1: some checks and balances better, but he had earned that right.
Speaker 1: But then the results weren't there. And if you're in
Speaker 1: a sports business, you know you win or you lose.
Speaker 1: There's no gray and I hate losing.
Speaker 5: Now break the Patriots that was seriously thinking about signing
Speaker 5: Colin Kaepernick. Yes, at really, yes, why didn't you?
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, those are decisions I've never like.
Speaker 1: We just changed. We have a new quarterback starting this week.
Speaker 1: I let my football people make decisions. I'm happy to
Speaker 1: discuss things. I think it would have been a great
Speaker 1: thing for us to have hired them because it would
Speaker 1: have been a great statement to the country. And you know,
Speaker 1: here the best team, the best coach, everything, they were
Speaker 1: just there's The NFL is not a straight line business.
Speaker 1: Personnel decisions are a function of you know, many things
Speaker 1: going on. When you bring in a quarterback, how does
Speaker 1: it affect the second and third quarterback, how does it
Speaker 1: affect the team. We're trying to do things that always
Speaker 1: build team first, and in America what's happening now and
Speaker 1: the NFL is a perfect example. If you don't have
Speaker 1: everybody on the same page, you're not going to win.
Speaker 1: You can have the greatest quarterback, but it's not like
Speaker 1: other sports where you can have one or two great
Speaker 1: people and it can impact you know, great pitcher, great center.
Speaker 1: You know in football, special teams can lose you again
Speaker 1: if they let a run back go or offense by fumbling.
Speaker 1: You can have the greatest defense and your offense gives,
Speaker 1: so you need it's what has to go on in America.
Speaker 1: You need everybody pulling together and it's hard.
Speaker 5: So it was it Rock Nation that was pushing for
Speaker 5: you to sign Cap or why didn't you do?
Speaker 2: Was he black ball?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What was the reason that it just didn't happen?
Speaker 1: You just there were a lot of variables that just that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't make that final decision. There was
Speaker 1: serious considerations and it was just I mean, in the end,
Speaker 1: the bottom line is every decision we're making with the
Speaker 1: NFL team on the game field is going to help
Speaker 1: us win or lose.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't a fit. It wasn't a fit.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll let you ask Coach Belichick that now.
Speaker 5: On the FX show, it looked like you'd be calling
Speaker 5: shots on the Aaron Hernandez Show on FX and they
Speaker 5: got you in the draft room and you would the one.
Speaker 2: Who said pick him.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. That's not how it happened, you know,
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: I watched the show.
Speaker 1: No, what's it called.
Speaker 5: It was just the name of an Aaron Henandi. It's
Speaker 5: a scripted show on FX about Aaron Nandi.
Speaker 1: Oh I heard that, and they got, yeah, No, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen that someone. Yeah, they get some.
Speaker 2: Dude, American sports story, the American sports story. Yeah, the guy.
Speaker 3: I've never even seen that show.
Speaker 1: In fiction, So I don't, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 6: But they discussed stuff with you the right way. After
Speaker 6: they make those decisions. It's not communicated. And I'm just
Speaker 6: saying it because he's saying he don't really know what's
Speaker 6: it's for the football.
Speaker 1: Wait. The one thing we've said, they can draft whomever
Speaker 1: they want. They can do it, except we never want
Speaker 1: to be bring a person into our system who has
Speaker 1: done the wrong thing by women. You know, where that's
Speaker 1: not allowed. They're not And I think in our third
Speaker 1: year of ownership they we drafted someone who had abused
Speaker 1: women in his fraternity. It was covered up. To me
Speaker 1: it was a guy who should have gone in the
Speaker 1: first or second around. We got him in the fifth
Speaker 1: or sixth round, and when I found out after the draft,
Speaker 1: we cut him before he even came. And we're trying
Speaker 1: to send a message to any coaches we ever had.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing. I mean. I was blessed. I
Speaker 1: have a new wife who's awesome, and I had a
Speaker 1: first wife who I told you died thirteen years ago.
Speaker 1: And respect for women is a community thing. That we
Speaker 1: can't have players that have abused women and be part
Speaker 1: of our team and culture.
Speaker 4: I wanted to know when Brady went to the Buccaneers.
Speaker 3: How did that hurt you? How did that affect you?
Speaker 4: Because that was your guy for so many years? And
Speaker 4: did you'll have a conversation and how do you feel
Speaker 4: about him when it happened?
Speaker 1: Now, Well, here's what happened. He he and Bill had
Speaker 1: some problems. Yeah, let's say they weren't best friends. And
Speaker 1: I negotiated his contracts with him the last twelve years,
Speaker 1: and and he was always put team first, and I
Speaker 1: was able to convince him not to. Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: we have a salary cap in the NFL, so I said, look,
Speaker 1: it'd be better if you didn't take the full amount
Speaker 1: that you would want by other quarterbacks. Because whatever we
Speaker 1: don't pay you not going in my pocket. It's going
Speaker 1: to other players to make you better. And if we
Speaker 1: do as well as I hope, the greatest beneficiary will
Speaker 1: be you. It doesn't go to that long term benefit
Speaker 1: doesn't go to the club or the coach. It goes
Speaker 1: you don't remember Joe Montana and people like that, Roger stoveback,
Speaker 1: And sure enough he listened to me, and he took
Speaker 1: less money and we were able to get great support
Speaker 1: people around. We spent to the cap every year, and
Speaker 1: he listened and he did it, and he was just unusual.
Speaker 1: But when I did the last contract with him, which
Speaker 1: would have completed twenty years with us, I said, look,
Speaker 1: you will do I won't allow Bill or the team
Speaker 1: to franchise you. If you don't want to stay here
Speaker 1: after this, which had two years to go, you'll decide
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget that. I believe it was in
Speaker 1: the month of March. He lived down the street from me,
Speaker 1: came to my house and I opened the door. He
Speaker 1: started crying and he hugged me and he said, I
Speaker 1: made a decision gonna leave the Patriots after twenty years.
Speaker 1: And I had you know, we normally would have franchised
Speaker 1: someone like that and they're not allowed to. But I
Speaker 1: kept my word to him, and it was one of
Speaker 1: the worst days.
Speaker 3: It's like almost like losing a child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and he and I look, he grew
Speaker 1: up with us. I was. I mean, I love the
Speaker 1: guy and he's one of a kind. You know, I
Speaker 1: went to his marriage when he marriage is held down
Speaker 1: in Costa Rica, and you know, we've he spent half
Speaker 1: his life with us, and we you know, when it
Speaker 1: was with Bridget moynihan and everything and he's he's one
Speaker 1: of the most amazing human beings on the planet. He's
Speaker 1: a guy when he goes in the huddle, he makes
Speaker 1: average players better. He just but he's got a heart
Speaker 1: of gold and he'll cry talking about an injustice. He
Speaker 1: cried that whole time when he had to leave us,
Speaker 1: and you know I understood it. He lived under an
Speaker 1: arrangement that was very difficult for him the last decade.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's an amazing human being. Ye know,
Speaker 1: he's part of my family to this day and I
Speaker 1: love him deally.
Speaker 6: I want to go back to something you mentioned earlier
Speaker 6: about the violence against the women and how serious you
Speaker 6: guys take that. So Jabrul Peppers right now is all
Speaker 6: over the news for domestic violence charges against his significant other,
Speaker 6: and in the beginning of it, Jarrett Mayo has said
Speaker 6: that you guys didn't know enough to not allow him
Speaker 6: into the facility and then that change. Now he's on
Speaker 6: the commissioners exemp list. So do you guys conduct your
Speaker 6: own investigations what was found, like what was the change there?
Speaker 1: Because I know we are doing that's a very good question,
Speaker 1: and you know we're living in a world now with
Speaker 1: so much on social media, and so much it's reported
Speaker 1: is unfear in these kind of situations, and you know,
Speaker 1: when you read the thing initially it turns your stomach.
Speaker 1: But we've learned, and I don't know the facts in
Speaker 1: this case, and Gerard called me. We spoke about it.
Speaker 1: Once he goes on the Commissioner example list. They do
Speaker 1: their independent checking. We're doing ours, and it was reported
Speaker 1: is true, he's gone. There have been some suggestions that
Speaker 1: this was a setup, and a lot of what's reported
Speaker 1: is not accurate. I just I can just okay, God
Speaker 1: that I've seen in life that if someone will take
Speaker 1: any one of the three of you you have profiles,
Speaker 1: if someone could set up something and say something it's
Speaker 1: just not true. It's a fact, and there's nothing so
Speaker 1: one other things. And I've personally had that happen with me.
Speaker 1: So you know, I have a saying that I used
Speaker 1: to all my key people and important decisions in life.
Speaker 1: You measure nine times and you cut once. And I
Speaker 1: think in this case, if what's been reported is true,
Speaker 1: he's gone, but we want to get the facts.
Speaker 6: I had one more question. I was going to say,
Speaker 6: did you were you guys in your investigation able to
Speaker 6: see his lawyer had mentioned there was videotape evidence that
Speaker 6: suggested that this may not have been what it was
Speaker 6: reported as. Did you guys see that that videotape is
Speaker 6: when you say that since.
Speaker 1: This came out, I've been in New York. I've talked
Speaker 1: to you in our legal counsel and other support people.
Speaker 1: They you know, the easy thing would have been to
Speaker 1: cut them right away, but we're trying to measure nine
Speaker 1: times and do right by him. If the facts are
Speaker 1: has been reported publicly, then he's not with us. There
Speaker 1: is a possibility there's a different explanation and the facts
Speaker 1: are different. So I'm personally just gonna wait knowing how
Speaker 1: these things can be unfear because excuse me, you know what,
Speaker 1: and this bothers me and you folks are very important
Speaker 1: platform for getting the message out. Make sure you get
Speaker 1: the facts and don't there's too much of this going
Speaker 1: on and then it just becomes it it ripple effect,
Speaker 1: and that's not good for any of us. And you know,
Speaker 1: people love you know how I gave you the jealousy
Speaker 1: and envy. We can get them. So I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I thought you was about to ask how can you
Speaker 2: get it up? It's this thing called blue choo.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, yeah, you take it.
Speaker 1: Some of us don't need it.
Speaker 5: I do one last question, why you believe you're not
Speaker 5: in the NFL Hall of Fame. Ye, cause I don't
Speaker 5: know why you're not. It makes no sense to me.
Speaker 1: Read that car jealous? Wow? Wait if I don't really
Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't care because on merit, you know,
Speaker 1: I think most people who are objective, it's this, this
Speaker 1: is people. It doesn't mean anything to me. What I'm
Speaker 1: doing more in my foundation to come back that has
Speaker 1: a greater impact, whether it's just I think the whole
Speaker 1: and it's happened with other people, so it means the
Speaker 1: value of it. It should be your objectivity. So in life,
Speaker 1: you know, I just the key thing is to dream
Speaker 1: your dream hang with good people of good character and
Speaker 1: Bill Bridges and that's what my.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm honored to be here, and I congratulate
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Speaker 2: I good things from you from so many people. So
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