1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 3: Everybody is the DJ. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 4: En Vy Jess hilarious Charlomagne, the guy we are the 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 4: breakfast Club Ess is on maternity leave, so laurla Rosa 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 4: is feeling and we got a special guest in the building. 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Big money in the building, Big, big money in the building. 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 5: Wow, big b Robert Craft is here, he said, he 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 5: has a nickname. He said, I'm god you Envy Lauren 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 5: is single. 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: So what do. 12 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 6: You nice to meet you? 13 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: I'm a newly But here's the deal. Well, I have 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: a new football coach and we had this big introduction. 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: And about for the Patriots. 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's awesome. Man. He calls me young Thundercat, 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: your thundercat, so you can call me r k K 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: or Young Thundercat as he addresses it. And he started 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: calling me that back in eight when we drafted him. 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: So I've known him for you know, like fifteen years. 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: And why did ThunderCats? 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: You're a fan of the Cartoonough, I'm gonna let you 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: ask him that he's the one who named me. 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: Come from somewhere. 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 5: What did you see from Gerard that made you hire 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 5: him as the first black head coach of the Patriots. 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I saw him come in on our 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: team as a tenth pick. We picked him in the 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: first round and that was actually at the time the 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: highest pick we had ever had since I owned the team. 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: That was in eight And the second year he was 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: with I think he got voted defensive Rookie of the year, 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, number one. And then in the second year 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: with us, he got elected captain and guys voted for 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: him whould won Super Bowls. So it told me something 36 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: that he could get respect of people that you know, 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: and in locker rooms I watched little things. And anyhow, 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: he played for US for the next seven years, or 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: he was with us. He played eight years, and then 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: he left US and went in the private industry, worked 41 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: in private industry, you know, reached back out and said 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: he really wanted to get into coaching, and he coached 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: US three four years, and so the varied experience was special. 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: Now I've taken twenty seven missions to the Holy Land, 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: mainly Christians and athletes who haven't seen the country about Israel, 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: pardon ise, yes. And when we were there, we had 47 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: a group of athletes and we were delayed at the 48 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: airport and I think they were like over twenty. He 49 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: organized them in the airport. He got a discussion going 50 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: and showed just unique leadership. You know, and in life, 51 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: when you're hanging with people, you know, you connect for 52 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: different reasons. And the light went off, and I said, 53 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: anyone that can relate like this to young people because 54 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: the world is different than I bought the team thirty 55 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: one years ago. Wow. And you know I've watched the 56 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: transition of players, the impact of social media, how you relate, 57 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: it's different. You got to adapt. And I just thought 58 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: he had something special. I respected. I call my eldest 59 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: son from the Holy Land that night and I said, 60 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: I think I got our next head coach. Wow, what's 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: five years ago? 62 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: What still excites you? 63 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: I mean, you did the Super Bowl thing, you owned 64 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: all different types of teams, You're a philanthropists, you travel 65 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: around the world. 66 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: What's doing with your riches? But I was at that point, No, 67 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: I'm not. 68 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable. Why right? 69 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 6: That shi version of comfortable? 70 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: We are poor. Let me hold some uncomfortable. 71 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Let me hold Can I tell you something? And it's 72 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: why you know today we launched a campaign to stop 73 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: all hate. Why Why? Yeah? Time out again. But why 74 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: did I do it? Because I was a kid who 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: lived in a walk up apartment. I you know, I 76 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: went to college on a full scholarship. I went to 77 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: graduate business school on a full scholarship, didn't have a 78 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: car to I was twenty five and I dreamt big 79 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: and I had my dreams and I was able to 80 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: make a number of them come true. Look, I own 81 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: an NFL franchise in my hometown. You know, I had 82 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: a greater chance of being a starting quarterback in the NFL. 83 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: There are thirty two quarterbacks, and some of these teams 84 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: don't sell for one hundred years. But I did the 85 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: things along the way I had to do, and we 86 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: start a little paper and packaging company fifty two years ago. 87 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: We're in one hundred and twenty seven countries today, and 88 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: it's all because of our country and opportunities for anyone 89 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: who wants to take advantage of it. And I see 90 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: things changing, and you know, that's why I started this campaign. 91 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 5: It seems like you've always well. In more recent times, 92 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 5: it seems like you've been involved in public service. Has 93 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 5: that always been your thing? Have you always been involved 94 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 5: in community issues and what's going on in society. 95 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: Yes, I was privileged to have great parents. It was 96 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: a sort of a wild kid, a middle child, and 97 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: I had a mom and dad who gave me great love. 98 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: But my mom really discipline me, thank God. And you know, 99 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: if you're blessed to have one or two parents who 100 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: give you good love and discipline, that's worth more than 101 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: financial resources for you to operate in the world, because 102 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: he gives you a strong foundation. But to answer your question, 103 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: I had a dad. While he didn't have material riches, 104 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: he was the greatest man I ever knew because he 105 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: was spiritual and he left me in ethical will and 106 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: he said, when you go to bed at night, make 107 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: sure the people you've touched that day are richer for 108 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: having known you. And he even though he had modest income, 109 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: he taught me a rule. He said, you always give 110 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: ten percent of whatever your income is away as a 111 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: minimum to people who are more needy. Wow, and the 112 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: only you know, he was a great man And the 113 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: only thing I ever heard my parents argue about and 114 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: was about money because he was so good. He never 115 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: was able to accumulate, but he was just what. I 116 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: was blessed to have that legacy. So I asked all 117 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: of us out there who are privileged to have kids 118 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: to invest that time and energy and try to give 119 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: similar values. 120 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: Now, when did you I don't want to say, when 121 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: did you realize? But a lot of times people with 122 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: a lot of money don't understand how bad it is 123 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: for other people because they're never there. But you, on 124 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: the other hand, are completely opposite. Like you, you do 125 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: things that most people don't do it. We've seen you 126 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: do it with Meek, we see you do it with 127 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: all these other organizations. 128 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Why well, it goes back to my dad. But I mean, 129 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: the quality that we've lost in society today is empathy. 130 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: You know, we don't listen to the what's going on. 131 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: And look, that's why I think your show is amazing. 132 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. You connect with four or five million people, 133 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: you give a message eight but who's counting eight million? 134 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it's twelve and they're under reporting it. You don't 135 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: have to pay it for those ads. That's right the 136 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: way they should that's probably the case. But think about it. 137 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: You're relating in a way that people can connect, and 138 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: your messaging connects. And what's happened in the world today 139 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: is people aren't caring about other people. And look, I 140 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what it's like to walk in 141 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: a room and be a man of color or a 142 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: woman of color, and how people treat you and what 143 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: your psyche is, how you have to act and it. 144 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's got to be difficult in many ways. 145 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: That why people don't understand or don't empathize with. But 146 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: we have we as society have to understand that and 147 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: have to We're all human beings. We had no choice 148 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: the way we came into this world, you know. And 149 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: if you were blessed to have one or two good parents, 150 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, that's the greatest. But if not, you know, 151 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: we gotta The thing that bothers me now is people 152 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: are just going in their own lanes and not opening up, 153 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: and especially social media is creating that where you know, 154 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: people just talk to one another in a way. You know, 155 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: how did I build my businesses. I would relate to 156 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: someone who was much different than I and I had 157 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: to listen to what that person was saying and maybe 158 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: change my way or go to the where that person 159 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: is thinking. And then it's the only way you can 160 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: do big things. But today people aren't doing that. They're 161 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: just going in their own lanes and staying with the 162 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: similar people. We got to change that. 163 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: I agree. What do you think the difference is? 164 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 5: What's the differ between Time Out Against Hate and your 165 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 5: nonprofit to Foundation to Combat Anti Semitism? 166 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I started this Foundation of Combat Anti 167 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Semitism back in twenty nineteen because I saw what was 168 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: going on in charlottevillein seventeen guys carrying signs saying Jews 169 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: or Blacks won't replace us. And then in nineteen the 170 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: Tree of Life in a synagogue. You know, you have 171 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: someone come and shoot and kill people. Think about going 172 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: to church. Church is a place where you have some 173 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of spiritual connection. You don't feel safe in the 174 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 1: United States of America. So I saw signs in twenty 175 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: nineteen what was going on in Nazi Germany in the thirties, 176 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: and I don't want America to be what Germany was 177 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: in the forties. So I started this foundation because it 178 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: usually starts. The hate starts over the last hundred years. 179 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: If you look at history with Jewish people, and then 180 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: it goes to every group, black, gay, Hispanic, Asian, you 181 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: name it. And look, this country was great to me. 182 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: We you know, we've had a lot of improprieties. Think 183 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: the way people of color have been treated, it's crazy, 184 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: the whole concept of slavery. I mean, in the modern world, 185 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe that people that, and so we have 186 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: to make it right and build bridges. And those of 187 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: us that are privileged to be able to do things 188 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: and pay our bills, we got to find ways to 189 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: build bridges and bring people together. And this country, with 190 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: all its faults, is still the greatest country in the world. 191 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: Think about it. We elected a man of color as president. 192 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: There's no other Western country that's done that. So with 193 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: all our faults, and we still got to correct a 194 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: lot of things. And I think the most injustices have 195 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: been done to people of color. You know you mentioned Meek. 196 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: Can I just say this because of course, yeah. I 197 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: mean I had developed no one believes Meek and I 198 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: are really friends, and I had developed a relationship with 199 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: him through a mutual friend, Michael Rubin, And he started 200 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: calling me and asking me questions about how he could 201 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: grow and prosper. And then he got thrown in jail 202 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: for doing a wheelie invited me to visit in jail. 203 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Now I'd never been to a jail, and going and 204 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: visiting him in jail changed my life. I couldn't believe 205 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: in the United States of America, we would take a guy. Look, 206 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,479 Speaker 1: he could be out earning millions of dollars, hiring employees, 207 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: paying people's salaries that could help their family, paying taxes, 208 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: paying taxes, and our system, you know, because of bigotry, 209 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: is putting a guy in jail. It was great, and 210 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: when I met him, it really changed my life. He 211 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: was nice, and he told me they fixed up the 212 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: jail when they painted it. They knew I was coming, 213 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: which is crazy to me, and he was nice. I said, 214 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: how come you don't have an edge? I'd be ticked, 215 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: you know exactly. He said, I expected it. And then 216 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: you know, I got into it my with my buddy 217 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: and I came out by the way and I spoke 218 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: to the media after listen. He got out of jail 219 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: two three days later, and he told me I made 220 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: a difference, not and it just told me how screwed 221 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: up our system was. And we got to change this 222 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: whole bail and situation. And because of that, a few 223 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: of us got together, you know, Michael and jay Z 224 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: and Meek and myself when we started this reform alliance 225 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: to try we we we have to correct that system. 226 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: It's a great injustice in America. 227 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: I agree. 228 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 5: I want to go back to something you said, because 229 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: you have donated money to Democratic politicians. You donated the 230 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: money to President Obama's campaign out of all the NFL owners, 231 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 5: But you talked about what happened in Charlottesville. You're also 232 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 5: good friends with Donald Trump, and in twenty seventeen you 233 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 5: said Trump would be great for the economy. So how 234 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 5: do you feel about him in twenty twenty four because 235 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 5: he's fueled a lot of the dangerous things that have 236 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: happened that you're talking about. 237 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let me just say I've been I'm a Democrat. 238 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: I've been. I was head of the Democratic City Committee 239 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: in Brookline and Newton, and I ran Teddy Kennedy's re 240 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: election campaign with a young man called Tommy O'Neill in 241 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: Boston who was Tip O'Neill's son. And I've always been democratic. 242 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:52,359 Speaker 1: Donald Trump became a social friend in the early nineties 243 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: when I was going down to Florida, and then when 244 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: my wife a blessed him. Memory died thirteen years ago. 245 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: He was one of four or five people who reached 246 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: out to me and was really really nice. I've not 247 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: The only donation I ever gave to him was he 248 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: called me when he got elected and I made a 249 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: strong donation to his inauguration. I couldn't believe it. It was 250 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: like having someone who's a drunk fraternity brother become president. 251 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't believe, you know, he was you know, 252 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, I think he did things. I mean, I'll 253 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: say this, but since I was very upset what happened 254 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: January sixth, Uh. 255 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: Pardon, I think he led an insurrection in his country. 256 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: And I haven't talked to him since then. Did you 257 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: reach out to him after that? 258 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 6: I was going to ask, did you reach out to 259 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 6: him after that to have a conversation, because if you're upset. 260 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: No, I was really upset because, just like what's going 261 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: on with our campaign to stop eight, there are things 262 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: going on in the country. Look, I can pay my bills. 263 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: God's been good, except for losing my first wife. I'm 264 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 1: one of the luckiest guys walking the planet. Wow. So 265 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: I want to build bridges, bring people together, you know, 266 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: and haven't owning the Patriots, As you know, I worked 267 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: very hard to get it. There's a book called the dynasty. 268 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: That explains the whole story. But the biggest thing that 269 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: came to me because I used to sit in the 270 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: stands and dream about own it what I do. And 271 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: you know nine to eleven happened. Four months later we 272 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl a team called the Patriots in 273 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: America wearing red, white and blue uniforms. 274 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: My dad thought that was a conspiracy back then because 275 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 5: Cowboys fans and so we alway say the Cowboys as 276 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 5: an America's team. And I remember when he y'all won 277 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl and he was like, this is a conspiracy. 278 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 5: Nine to eleven just happened? Did the NFL rig this 279 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 5: for the Patriots to win? 280 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: Well? I understand dad saying that because Cowboy fans are 281 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: very loyal, but we're red, white and blue. Our name 282 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: was the Patriots. Boston is a city of six hundred 283 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: thousand people. What happened twenty four hours later, one of 284 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: the coldest days, I think it was February third or fourth, 285 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: A million and a half people came to the streets 286 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: of Boston. Gay people, black people, Asians, whites, everyone came 287 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: to celebrate the team. And it just showed me the 288 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: power of sport. In a way. It's why, you know, 289 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: with this campaign to stop all hate our foundation, we 290 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: worked hard as a first time in over one hundred years, 291 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: all the sports leagues unity, and that's what we need. 292 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: Brothers and sisters. I mean, we're all. We didn't have 293 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: any choice how we're born, what religion we're born, what 294 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: skin color, how our eyes are shaped, what we look like. 295 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: But you know, we got a chance. You know, hopefully 296 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: you're born with good characteristics where you can function and 297 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: not have certain proclivities that keep you from doing things. 298 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: So I just my life is about bill and bridges, 299 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: given everyone a chance. It's good business for us to 300 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: have everyone who's born in this world to live their dreams. 301 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: I got to ask a question. You said you're a Democrat. 302 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 4: Most people would assume that you would be a Republican 303 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: because of the tax breaks and the money and that 304 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: and all that other stuff. So what made you say 305 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: I want to be a Democrat? 306 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: What made you for the people? No, I was That's 307 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: how I got elected. When I was in my twenties. 308 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: There's a very liberal community and they older people and 309 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: they were fighting and they picked me because I just 310 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: I want to build bridges and I thought, I'm a 311 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: little disturbed with the Democratic Party today. 312 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Wow. 313 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a group of progressives who have 314 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: come in that are not building bridges and listening, and 315 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: they're preaching hate just the same way they never used 316 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: to be in extreme like that, the way it's done 317 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: on the right. And you know, I think, you know 318 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: we need anyway. Once you can pay your bills, you 319 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: got to work to try to If you have your 320 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: health and pay your bills, God's been good. You got 321 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: to then work to make the surrounding things around you good. 322 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: You know. I love the way one hundred years ago 323 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: the black and Jewish Jewish people their skin is in black, 324 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: but after you know, the discrimination to the Jewish community 325 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: has been the same to black except for that. We 326 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what it's like to walk in 327 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: a room and have people look at you like that, 328 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: Like people might not know when I walk into a room. 329 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: But I stay true to what my values and what 330 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: I've been and you know, try to be a good human. 331 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: The Vice president campaign, I haven't I've I haven't supported 332 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: any political person since I've started this Blue Square because 333 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to be political. I want what's best 334 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: for the country. And actually, I'm really worried. Part of 335 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: the reason we started this campaign and itn't inaugurated today 336 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: with these ads that are going to run. There's an 337 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: ad that's gonna run on the game tonight. We just 338 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: did a big interview with NBC that aired and CNBC 339 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: and this is my second stop on a one of 340 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: the biggest days, and it comes out of respect to 341 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: you all and your audience and the message we're trying 342 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: to get out there. 343 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 5: Well, if you're against bigotry and you're against hate, why 344 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: would you choose not to be involved in the election 345 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 5: in this year like Trump have an opportunity to be 346 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 5: back in the White House. You said you didn't like 347 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 5: what he did on January six, let an insurrection in 348 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 5: this country, So why wouldn't you want to be involved? 349 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: Because when I started this foundation, as soon as you 350 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: take a political position or stay, you alienate I. I 351 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: don't I don't have the answer. You know, I've met 352 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: with the Vice President's husband, He's come and visited our 353 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: I hope one day you you all come and see 354 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: our command center where we have a wall tied to 355 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: three hundred million websites all over the world and we're 356 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: watching trends and hate and we're trying to monitor it. 357 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: And you know, we've worked with Doug M. Hoff on thistly. 358 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: White House is app to him as leading in this effort. 359 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: But once we take a side politically, then we alienate people. 360 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: And I don't want to. I want everyone what we're 361 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: preaching in our foundation. And you look, we're able to 362 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: get the seven sports leagues and NASCAR, which is mid 363 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: America and a different I don't know how many NASCAR 364 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: fans are listening to your show, but we were able 365 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: to bring them all together and they're all together preaching 366 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: against hate and trying to keep civility, instill the greatest 367 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: with all our faults in this country, we're the greatest 368 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: country for opportunity. Look look what you folks are doing 369 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: with this show, but we got to work at it. 370 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 5: Is my last political question, So why tell people you're 371 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 5: a Democrat? And I was shocking you said that because 372 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 5: of the fact you're an owner of detention. 373 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: That's OK. 374 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: You can go back and look when I was twenty 375 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: eight years old, I was elected chair that I'm probably 376 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: an independent. Now, well, I have not what I don't want. 377 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: I used to think I would run for political office. 378 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: I had the privilege of being elected present my class, 379 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: senior class high school and then in college, and I 380 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: love doing that. But then the more I got out 381 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: and trying to support my family, I saw that politics 382 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: there was too much phoniness and just it wasn't something 383 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to vote my time to. So I decided 384 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: I could have a bigger impact doing philanthropy. Once I 385 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: started making a few dollars and trying to be showing 386 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: initiative as a businessman, doing my philanthropic things and trying 387 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: to be creative, It's like getting exposure to me. I'd 388 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: never been to a jail, I told you, and I 389 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: saw the craziness, and that got us to start together 390 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: with the partners the Reform Alliance, that we should get 391 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: a million people, you know, change their situation to give 392 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: them a chance to get out in society. But we're 393 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: doing that in other areas. And once you get political, 394 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: you alienate people. And I'm sorry now I wanted to know. 395 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 6: So by you saying you're not getting involved in an election, 396 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 6: that doesn't are you going to vote though? Absolutely okay, 397 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 6: but you just don't want to come out and see 398 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 6: who you're voting for. 399 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because when you do that. Let me just 400 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: say this, people from both sides, both parties, right at 401 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: the top, have reached out to us and want us 402 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: to be involved. And I don't. I think we bring 403 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: more value to this country and to people who are 404 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: needy by being in the position we're in and not. 405 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: I just look. I see my ancestors came here as immigrants. 406 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: I went to school on scholarship. The country allowed me 407 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: to go function and fight battles and dream my dream. 408 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: I want that for everyone coming into this country. And 409 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: when you get involved in politics, you know, it's sad 410 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: to me to see that. You know, I go back. 411 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: None of you were on the earth when Ronald Reagan 412 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: was president. But when he was president, there was a 413 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: guy who was Speaker of the House by the name 414 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: of Tip O'Neil. He was from Massachusetts, Cambridge where how 415 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: it is, and you know, they used to fight each 416 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: other like crazy during the day five point thirty they'd 417 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: have a beer and then they go play nine holes 418 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: and they do business for America. Today we're not doing that. 419 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: People don't even listen to one another. They're not coming together. 420 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: And my life will be about building bridges and bringing 421 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: all people to the best of my ability and fighting hate. 422 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: Now think about I'm very proud that we were able 423 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: to bring all the sports commissioners, women, men, NASCAR together 424 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: to do this campaign of time out. By the way, 425 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: what is the time out? When do you call that? 426 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: In a sport? You're doing it when things aren't going right. 427 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: You want to win. You want to win your game. 428 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: You've got to readjust your strategy and do things that'll 429 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: be good that allow you to win. That's what we're 430 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: doing in America. We're trying to call a time out 431 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: and have all people come together. How do I benefit 432 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: by demeaning anyone, any group that's given there, even if 433 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: they think differently than I. I want them to have 434 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: their chance, but do it straight and be respectful of all. 435 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: Do you think that's the reason why you're so your 436 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: franchise is so successful. We look at all these other franchises. 437 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 4: You've had a very successful franchise other than my New 438 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 4: York Giants. But besides that, do you think that's the 439 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 4: why because you have that way of thinking of unity 440 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: and getting it together. 441 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you when we bought as a good question, 442 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: I always have tried to incorporate everyone. When we bought 443 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: the Patriot, you know, in thirty four years, they had 444 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: never sold out, so the local games are always blacked out. 445 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: I sat in those stands dreaming what I would do, 446 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: and when I was privileged to take it over, I 447 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: tried to bring everyone in. And then the first year 448 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: we sold out, we got over one hundred thousand people 449 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: on a paid waiting list to buy seats to something 450 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: that wasn't that way, and you know, I have the 451 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: good fortune to have it. We drafted this guy by 452 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: the name of Brady, and I heard him. Yeah, no, 453 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: I know most people. 454 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: The Giants. Giants have heard of him a couple of times. 455 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: Well in the Big Apple, you guys. You know we're 456 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: in Beantown, in the village up there. But you know, 457 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: and I also, I decided with my nose to hire 458 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: a coach that they went to me I shouldn't. And 459 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: I kept them together for twenty years, and we built 460 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: bridges the way I'm talking about here. We kept it together. 461 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: And you know, in our history, since we've bought our Patriots, 462 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: we have the best winning percentage for championships of any 463 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: sports team in any league. Anywhere in the world, and 464 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of that. 465 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 5: That's because y'all cheat, and which I don't have a 466 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 5: problem with. 467 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 2: I was my cowboys and cheat. 468 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: Okay, but see what you're saying. That's what I call 469 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: envy and jealous. 470 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: And even one in a long time. 471 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Look at you, folks, you're doing this show. You don't 472 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: think there are people that hate you that you're so successful. 473 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: I want to try to throw digs and throw of course, 474 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: so jealous in envy? I wan, I have a saying, Actually. 475 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 6: Oh please, I mean jealousy envy. 476 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 5: Okay, this is an rkka that jealousy and envy are 477 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 5: incurable diseases. And it's the one time it is better 478 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 5: to be a recipient than a donor. 479 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 6: Carry around all the time. 480 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I give him off. 481 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: About three other things in your pocket you coulda gave me. 482 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm a slavone, you know. 483 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: Want to ask, like, there's always this debate between Belichick 484 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 5: and Brady and who's responsible for the Patriots success? How 485 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 5: much credit should you get put your name in those competitions. 486 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna I'll let you decide that. Here's the deal. 487 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: We were in business thirty four years. How many home 488 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: playoff games do you think they had in those thirty 489 00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: four years the Patriots. 490 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: It's a good question. 491 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 492 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 5: How many home games playoff games? 493 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: No, no, hell, no way, more thing too, maybe like 494 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: twenty two. 495 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: You're half right for one one why and they lost 496 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: to the Houston Oilists. I was sitting in the stands 497 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: Earl Campbell, you remember that name. Yeah, he ran for 498 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: over two hundred yuys and we lost. And I believe 499 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, we've had thirty one home playoff games and 500 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: one twenty seven in the thirty years we've we've gone 501 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: to ten Super Bowls and one six. 502 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 5: I heard the question, I thought you meant when you 503 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 5: were how many playoff games did y'all. 504 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: Have at home? 505 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: Oh? 506 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you met the Patriots before. Okay, okay, okay. 507 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: Excuse me for not be But anyhow, what you folks 508 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: have created here is amazing. 509 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: We're trying to be a dynasty like y'all are. 510 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what to do it in the 511 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: medium you're doing and being it's much hotter in the 512 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: media world to keep it here and the fact that 513 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: you're relevant and doing it so you can influence people. 514 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: And I just hope. We're building on the building blocks 515 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: that are good that I know. We got a lot 516 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: of problems in the country, but it's still the best. 517 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: Agree the tom need build to Bill need time. 518 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, well, I don't know, all right, 519 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: you're not married? 520 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: No, hell no. 521 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: A lot of guys, a lot of guys are having 522 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: their eye in that direction. I see, are you toube married. 523 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: Twenty three years, twenty six years? Married for ten? But 524 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: bid my wife for twenty six years twenty three years? 525 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: So think about your man and by the way, that decision. 526 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: If you get the right person, you're going to go 527 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: through tough time. Absolutely, but you stay together, especially if 528 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: you have kids and the dividends you'll get later. But 529 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: who's more responsible? We're keeping it together? How do you 530 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: answer that? And that's what's easy. 531 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 6: My wife Okay, I knew where you were going, like said, 532 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 6: take dependent, but they're smart, they're not answer my wife. 533 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get it. That's why she not only 534 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: has a good look, she's got the brain. 535 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 6: Thank you. Wait, so you and Belichick like, what's the 536 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 6: relationship now, because you know it's been on and off, 537 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 6: rumors that y'all don't really do that y'all don't really 538 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 6: like each other like that. 539 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: Look, I mean I kept him for twenty four years. 540 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, I didn't enjoy having to fire him, 541 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: but I try to do it. If you look at 542 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: the press conference and how it happened, try to do 543 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: it in a classy way. And what he did for 544 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: us was great. You know, people need to adapt and 545 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: if they don't, or look at you folks together, things 546 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: can change in life. It's about getting good chemistry and 547 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: trust and feel that. You know, our record the last 548 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: three to four years wasn't what I wanted. And I 549 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: had given him so much power. He had full control 550 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: over everything, and shame on me. I should have had 551 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: some checks and balances better, but he had earned that right. 552 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: But then the results weren't there. And if you're in 553 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: a sports business, you know you win or you lose. 554 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: There's no gray and I hate losing. 555 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 5: Now break the Patriots that was seriously thinking about signing 556 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 5: Colin Kaepernick. Yes, at really, yes, why didn't you? 557 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, those are decisions I've never like. 558 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: We just changed. We have a new quarterback starting this week. 559 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: I let my football people make decisions. I'm happy to 560 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: discuss things. I think it would have been a great 561 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 1: thing for us to have hired them because it would 562 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: have been a great statement to the country. And you know, 563 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: here the best team, the best coach, everything, they were 564 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: just there's The NFL is not a straight line business. 565 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: Personnel decisions are a function of you know, many things 566 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: going on. When you bring in a quarterback, how does 567 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: it affect the second and third quarterback, how does it 568 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: affect the team. We're trying to do things that always 569 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: build team first, and in America what's happening now and 570 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: the NFL is a perfect example. If you don't have 571 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: everybody on the same page, you're not going to win. 572 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: You can have the greatest quarterback, but it's not like 573 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: other sports where you can have one or two great 574 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: people and it can impact you know, great pitcher, great center. 575 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: You know in football, special teams can lose you again 576 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: if they let a run back go or offense by fumbling. 577 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: You can have the greatest defense and your offense gives, 578 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: so you need it's what has to go on in America. 579 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: You need everybody pulling together and it's hard. 580 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 5: So it was it Rock Nation that was pushing for 581 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 5: you to sign Cap or why didn't you do? 582 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: Was he black ball? 583 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: Like? 584 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: What was the reason that it just didn't happen? 585 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: You just there were a lot of variables that just that. 586 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't make that final decision. There was 587 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: serious considerations and it was just I mean, in the end, 588 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: the bottom line is every decision we're making with the 589 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: NFL team on the game field is going to help 590 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: us win or lose. 591 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: And it wasn't a fit. It wasn't a fit. 592 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: Well, I'll let you ask Coach Belichick that now. 593 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 5: On the FX show, it looked like you'd be calling 594 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 5: shots on the Aaron Hernandez Show on FX and they 595 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 5: got you in the draft room and you would the one. 596 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: Who said pick him. 597 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: No, I don't know. That's not how it happened, you know, 598 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: I have. 599 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: I watched the show. 600 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: No, what's it called. 601 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 5: It was just the name of an Aaron Henandi. It's 602 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 5: a scripted show on FX about Aaron Nandi. 603 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: Oh I heard that, and they got, yeah, No, I 604 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: haven't seen that someone. Yeah, they get some. 605 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: Dude, American sports story, the American sports story. Yeah, the guy. 606 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 3: I've never even seen that show. 607 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: In fiction, So I don't, I mean, I don't. 608 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 6: But they discussed stuff with you the right way. After 609 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 6: they make those decisions. It's not communicated. And I'm just 610 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 6: saying it because he's saying he don't really know what's 611 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 6: it's for the football. 612 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: Wait. The one thing we've said, they can draft whomever 613 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: they want. They can do it, except we never want 614 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: to be bring a person into our system who has 615 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: done the wrong thing by women. You know, where that's 616 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: not allowed. They're not And I think in our third 617 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: year of ownership they we drafted someone who had abused 618 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: women in his fraternity. It was covered up. To me 619 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: it was a guy who should have gone in the 620 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: first or second around. We got him in the fifth 621 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: or sixth round, and when I found out after the draft, 622 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: we cut him before he even came. And we're trying 623 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: to send a message to any coaches we ever had. 624 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: That's the one thing. I mean. I was blessed. I 625 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: have a new wife who's awesome, and I had a 626 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: first wife who I told you died thirteen years ago. 627 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: And respect for women is a community thing. That we 628 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: can't have players that have abused women and be part 629 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: of our team and culture. 630 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to know when Brady went to the Buccaneers. 631 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 3: How did that hurt you? How did that affect you? 632 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 4: Because that was your guy for so many years? And 633 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 4: did you'll have a conversation and how do you feel 634 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 4: about him when it happened? 635 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 1: Now, Well, here's what happened. He he and Bill had 636 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: some problems. Yeah, let's say they weren't best friends. And 637 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: I negotiated his contracts with him the last twelve years, 638 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: and and he was always put team first, and I 639 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: was able to convince him not to. Oh, you know, 640 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: we have a salary cap in the NFL, so I said, look, 641 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: it'd be better if you didn't take the full amount 642 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: that you would want by other quarterbacks. Because whatever we 643 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: don't pay you not going in my pocket. It's going 644 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: to other players to make you better. And if we 645 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: do as well as I hope, the greatest beneficiary will 646 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: be you. It doesn't go to that long term benefit 647 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: doesn't go to the club or the coach. It goes 648 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: you don't remember Joe Montana and people like that, Roger stoveback, 649 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: And sure enough he listened to me, and he took 650 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: less money and we were able to get great support 651 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: people around. We spent to the cap every year, and 652 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: he listened and he did it, and he was just unusual. 653 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: But when I did the last contract with him, which 654 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: would have completed twenty years with us, I said, look, 655 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 1: you will do I won't allow Bill or the team 656 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: to franchise you. If you don't want to stay here 657 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: after this, which had two years to go, you'll decide 658 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget that. I believe it was in 659 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: the month of March. He lived down the street from me, 660 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: came to my house and I opened the door. He 661 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: started crying and he hugged me and he said, I 662 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: made a decision gonna leave the Patriots after twenty years. 663 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: And I had you know, we normally would have franchised 664 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: someone like that and they're not allowed to. But I 665 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: kept my word to him, and it was one of 666 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 1: the worst days. 667 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 3: It's like almost like losing a child. 668 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and he and I look, he grew 669 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: up with us. I was. I mean, I love the 670 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: guy and he's one of a kind. You know, I 671 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 1: went to his marriage when he marriage is held down 672 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: in Costa Rica, and you know, we've he spent half 673 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: his life with us, and we you know, when it 674 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: was with Bridget moynihan and everything and he's he's one 675 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: of the most amazing human beings on the planet. He's 676 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: a guy when he goes in the huddle, he makes 677 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: average players better. He just but he's got a heart 678 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: of gold and he'll cry talking about an injustice. He 679 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: cried that whole time when he had to leave us, 680 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: and you know I understood it. He lived under an 681 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: arrangement that was very difficult for him the last decade. 682 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: But you know, he's an amazing human being. Ye know, 683 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: he's part of my family to this day and I 684 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: love him deally. 685 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 6: I want to go back to something you mentioned earlier 686 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 6: about the violence against the women and how serious you 687 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 6: guys take that. So Jabrul Peppers right now is all 688 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 6: over the news for domestic violence charges against his significant other, 689 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 6: and in the beginning of it, Jarrett Mayo has said 690 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 6: that you guys didn't know enough to not allow him 691 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 6: into the facility and then that change. Now he's on 692 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 6: the commissioners exemp list. So do you guys conduct your 693 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 6: own investigations what was found, like what was the change there? 694 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,760 Speaker 1: Because I know we are doing that's a very good question, 695 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: and you know we're living in a world now with 696 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: so much on social media, and so much it's reported 697 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: is unfear in these kind of situations, and you know, 698 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: when you read the thing initially it turns your stomach. 699 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: But we've learned, and I don't know the facts in 700 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: this case, and Gerard called me. We spoke about it. 701 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: Once he goes on the Commissioner example list. They do 702 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: their independent checking. We're doing ours, and it was reported 703 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: is true, he's gone. There have been some suggestions that 704 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: this was a setup, and a lot of what's reported 705 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: is not accurate. I just I can just okay, God 706 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 1: that I've seen in life that if someone will take 707 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,439 Speaker 1: any one of the three of you you have profiles, 708 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,479 Speaker 1: if someone could set up something and say something it's 709 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: just not true. It's a fact, and there's nothing so 710 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: one other things. And I've personally had that happen with me. 711 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: So you know, I have a saying that I used 712 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 1: to all my key people and important decisions in life. 713 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: You measure nine times and you cut once. And I 714 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: think in this case, if what's been reported is true, 715 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: he's gone, but we want to get the facts. 716 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 6: I had one more question. I was going to say, 717 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 6: did you were you guys in your investigation able to 718 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 6: see his lawyer had mentioned there was videotape evidence that 719 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 6: suggested that this may not have been what it was 720 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 6: reported as. Did you guys see that that videotape is 721 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 6: when you say that since. 722 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,479 Speaker 1: This came out, I've been in New York. I've talked 723 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 1: to you in our legal counsel and other support people. 724 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: They you know, the easy thing would have been to 725 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: cut them right away, but we're trying to measure nine 726 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 1: times and do right by him. If the facts are 727 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: has been reported publicly, then he's not with us. There 728 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: is a possibility there's a different explanation and the facts 729 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: are different. So I'm personally just gonna wait knowing how 730 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: these things can be unfear because excuse me, you know what, 731 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: and this bothers me and you folks are very important 732 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: platform for getting the message out. Make sure you get 733 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 1: the facts and don't there's too much of this going 734 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: on and then it just becomes it it ripple effect, 735 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: and that's not good for any of us. And you know, 736 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: people love you know how I gave you the jealousy 737 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: and envy. We can get them. So I'm just saying 738 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't. 739 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 2: I thought you was about to ask how can you 740 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 2: get it up? It's this thing called blue choo. 741 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, yeah, you take it. 742 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: Some of us don't need it. 743 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 5: I do one last question, why you believe you're not 744 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,439 Speaker 5: in the NFL Hall of Fame. Ye, cause I don't 745 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 5: know why you're not. It makes no sense to me. 746 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: Read that car jealous? Wow? Wait if I don't really 747 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't care because on merit, you know, 748 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: I think most people who are objective, it's this, this 749 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: is people. It doesn't mean anything to me. What I'm 750 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: doing more in my foundation to come back that has 751 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: a greater impact, whether it's just I think the whole 752 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: and it's happened with other people, so it means the 753 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: value of it. It should be your objectivity. So in life, 754 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, I just the key thing is to dream 755 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: your dream hang with good people of good character and 756 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: Bill Bridges and that's what my. 757 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 4: Wife, ladies and gentlemen, Robert Craft. We appreciate you for 758 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 4: joining us. 759 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm honored to be here, and I congratulate 760 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: you all for billing the Equity brand that you've done here. 761 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 2: I good things from you from so many people. So 762 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 2: there's a pleasure to so what's my. 763 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 3: Name, young thundercat, you cat all. 764 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: Right, you're right, opening all right, Robert Craft, thank you lovely. 765 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 2: He started to say that that. 766 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 4: Robert Graft is the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that 767 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 4: answer up in the morning, Breakfast Club