1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Good mornings, we were old and welcome to the Now 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, February ninth, 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I'm Jay Skeeds here in the Classic 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Factory and alongside me as always Testmelo, next to Tassi 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: Sibir to one with tough shot hot boy Trey Kirby. Hey, 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: hey over yonder our super producer JD. Hello, there he is, 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: and last but not least, our social media superstar. 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But 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: let's jump into the big deal from last night. A 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: few days after Kyrie was traded to the Mavericks, his 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: superstar teammate in Brooklyn is headed to the Western Conference too. 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Everybody wants the head west. Late last night, while all 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: the no donkeys were snuggled up in their beds. 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 3: I've never wanted to live on the West Coast more 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: than last night. You'll wait for this thing. 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Phoenix Suns acquired Kevin Durant in a blockbuster deal. 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 4: This is a block thank you. 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: I just wanted to confirm with this ant Man and Wasp. Yes, 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: the three teamer earlier last night, that was black Adam, 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: this one is ant Man. So Katie and TJ. Warren 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: head to the desert in exchange four Nickilebridges, Cam Johnson, J. Crowder, 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: four first round picks we're talking twenty three, twenty five, 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty nine, and a twenty twenty eight pick Swamp. Hello. 33 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Let's break it down. Well, first off, tell me how 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: you found out this morning. Was it just as simple 35 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: as rolling over? Do you check your phone right away 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: in bed? I know it's not healthy, but do you do? 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: It depends on the day. Usually I do, and surprisingly 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: today I didn't. Surprisingly it took me until after a 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: pee to actually check my phone, which is surprising for me. 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: But luckily it was after the pee, so it didn't 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: go everywhere. I was startled to see Kevin Durant. Wow, 42 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: I guess you can actually buy into a guy leaving 43 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: the bench Monday night and then not being there on Tuesday. 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: He wanted to go you kept yeah, but James Jones, 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: seemingly reading all the reporting and Adrian Wilji and Rescue's 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: reporting on ESPN, didn't want to do it. Didn't want 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: to include Michael Bridges. But Matt Ishbia, the new owner 48 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: of the Phoenix Suns, who just had his introductory press 49 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: conference yesterday Wednesday, we walked in her. Yes yesterday, he 50 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: walked in and said, just keep calling, keep calling. Last night, 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: give Shawn Marks one more call, and he was very 52 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: comfortable including Michel Bridges, which was the sticking point. James 53 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: Jones didn't want to move him. This is the best 54 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: trade we possibly could have gotten from here because from 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: this perspective, because we've got the Phoenix Suns obviously going 56 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: for it and the Brooklyn Nets getting as much as 57 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: they possibly could in terms of draft capital. And I 58 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: think the level of player with mckel Bridges. Yeah, going 59 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: back to the preseason, it was Jalen Brown sort of 60 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: the top echelon type player that they get back or 61 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: mckel bridges or the ogn and ob type chatter. So 62 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: this is peak stuff right here. And and I think 63 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: the Phoenix suns. I think it's easy to forget that 64 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: Devin Booker just came back. 65 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: They have got to feel very, very good about their 67 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: chances this year. And they've got a Durant and a 68 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: Booker for four playoff runs. I think you could you 69 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: can pencil them in for you know, the favorite in 70 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: the Western Conference next year, I'd say, but you could 71 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: even say it this year. If you say it this year, 72 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't think you're crazy. 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: Oh, good team, they have good five. I mean they're 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: a little thin obviously after trading some guys. But is 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: this just the classic case here TK of new owner 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: have itch, let's do it like this. This is wild. 77 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: The timing of Ishbia coming in here and saying get 78 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: me Kevin Durant, I said, get me Kevin Durant. Go 79 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: get Kevin Durant. Now there's been rumors obviously these teams 80 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: linked for a while, but I guess it was that 81 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: the bridges hold up and they crossed it. 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: Matt said, not a bridge is too far. 83 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 5: It is a little bit of new owner syndrome, but 84 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 5: it's also a huge part of smart owner syndrome. 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 4: He traded for Kevin Durant. 86 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 5: It's not like he's making a big, splashy deal for 87 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving, which would be a huge risk. This is 88 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: a new championship contender. I think the Suns were done 89 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 5: this season. Prior to this trade. I didn't think they 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 5: had the championship team in him. With Chris Paul taking 91 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 5: another little half step back, a little bit of rama 92 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 5: with DeAndre Ayton, Booker was out of the lineup, the 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: team fell apart, and they were still pretty shallow before 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 5: this trade. They're gonna be shallow right now until they 95 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 5: pick up random buyout guys. 96 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 4: Mellow sure, sure, yeah, why not Mellow? 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 5: Any old guy you can think of, Hassan white Side, 98 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 5: maybe John Wall somehow ends up there there. 99 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 100 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: If you made an All Star team five seasons ago, 101 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 5: you could probably find your way to the Phoenix Suns 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 5: if you really want to. But trading for Kevin Durant, 103 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 5: huge move, smart move. He's under contract, he's great. The 104 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: only concern really is injuries, because he's missed a chunk 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 5: of time this season, last season and going back to 106 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: his first season with the Nets and with the Warriors. 107 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 5: Obviously you're counting on sixty games and for him to 108 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 5: hopefully be healthy come playoff time. But I'm with Tass. 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 5: I think this at least puts him in the upper 110 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 5: echelon of the Western Conference. And maybe I'm gonna hold 111 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 5: out just a little bit to actually see him on 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 5: the court together, but I think that they could easily 113 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 5: be the championship favorite coming out of the West. 114 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess why I'm slightly in hold mode is 115 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: because of what happened with the Brooklyn Nets last year. 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: I was comfortable saying those dudes are the favorites, but 117 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: I think this is an entirely different locker room. Kevin 118 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 3: Durant has got that relationship with Many Williams, Devin Booker 119 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: is healthy, and I basically your one question what Phoenix 120 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: Suns is. Is Kevin Durant too old or is he injured? 121 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: And he's had two guys fall into his legs the 122 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: last two seasons. That's what's happened. He's thirty four, I 123 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: get it, but really I'm comfortable with this. The injury 124 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: history again, four playoffs under contract, twenty six with him 125 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: and Devin Booker. I think he's healthy and obviously I'm. 126 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: And DeAndre Eaton is under a long term contract as well, exactly. 127 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: I mean, so so yeah, you say, you say, yeah, 128 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: they have a big four and they're a little thin. 129 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: They're thin at the small forward position. There's no doubt 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: those four guys are starting. You're starting with Paul and 131 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: Booker and Durant and Ayton Tory Craig, Josha Kozy or 132 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: you're probably your starting small forwards. I think we kind 133 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: of undervalue Kevin Durant's defense. He is an MVP candidate 134 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: this season. If the Nets, you know, played a little 135 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: bit better to start like, he is one of the 136 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: best players in the game. Devin Booker is an All 137 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: NBA player. If they're all healthy, them and the Nuggets 138 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: are the two best teams in the Western Conference. And 139 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: if they're all healthy in they're in a series, who 140 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: you taking, I'm probably taking the Suns. You know, if 141 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: they're again all healthy and they still probably can make 142 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: a move. They got Dario sarz Is expiring and some 143 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: other little little moves there. But you know, they got 144 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: to keep Jock Landale. That's pretty cool so that. 145 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 4: They didn't even assume he was gonna get mentioned. 146 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: That's exciting. It is exciting. Yeah, they are a little 147 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: thin for sure, but not that. 148 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: Then it's a ballsy, ballsy move. It is Kevin Durant, 149 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: but I alas love that they're going for it. Obviously 150 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: they're looking at the Western Conference, like, you know, standings layout, 151 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: where they are even like we're talking like the Suns 152 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: have had like the worst season of all time. 153 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: No way, and they have. 154 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: It's been bad by their standards from the last two years, 155 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: obviously going to the finals two years ago, sixty four wins, 156 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: last year before that Game seven flame out against the MAVs, 157 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: and then this year, yes, struggling to find their way. 158 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: The Booker injury was out for a good chunk of time. 159 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: But they're like, they're right there in the Western Conference 160 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: standing what are they fifth right now? Basically tied for fourth. 161 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: I think with your Dallas Mavericks, who've got Kyrie and 162 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: he played last night, Man, what a night. You could 163 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: have scored eighty points last night, no one would have cared. 164 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that'll be like the tenth thing we talk 165 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: about here today. 166 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: I think they have a decent enough locker room, like 167 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: they were first in the West in early December, and 168 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 3: then Devin Booker got her. Their best player got hurt. Yeah, 169 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 3: and so Chris Paul's you know, age and breaking down 170 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: is definitely a worry to some degree, but now him 171 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: as the third fourth guy, You're fine with it for 172 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: this year, and the worries are going forward after that 173 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: with Chris Paul. But you gotta feel damn good. I 174 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: know they're gonna miss mckel bridges. He's kind of their 175 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: heart of their team, and Cam Johnson as well. So 176 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: Suns fans gotta be hurt, ye, just because they're their 177 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: boys are gone. But I think they'll get over Kevi. 178 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant puts on a jersey, best player they've ever had. 179 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: I can't believe just the nets timeline of what's happened 180 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: over the last like three and a half years, Like 181 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: it'll do your head in when you think about what's gone. 182 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: On July twenty nineteen, they signed Kyrie Irving. Soon after that, 183 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is acquired from the Warriors in a sign. 184 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: And trade injured. 185 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: A couple years after that, they acquire James Harden from 186 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: the Rockets February twenty twenty two. He's traded to the 187 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: Semi six Ers. Is when they start to build it 188 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: down three years sort of, to build it up two 189 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: hours really, and then it just starts ripping down. Here 190 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: in two years, hard And traded to the Semi six 191 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: Ers February sixth, obviously of twenty three. Kyrie traded to 192 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: the MAVs, and then last night call it today, Kevin 193 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: Durant traded to the Suns Holy Moldy to like acquire 194 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: three MVP like guys, three Hall of famers, put them 195 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: all together in the span of again like a three 196 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: year window to your window, and then to blow it 197 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: up in a year. And man, I felt bad for 198 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: my godson. He turned into a Nets fan, his father, 199 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: My buddy Grish, your buddy Grish, our buddy Grish. He 200 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: bought them three jerseys bottom of heart in nets jersey 201 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: bottom a Kyrie nets jersey, bottom of Durant nets jersey. 202 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: God. 203 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: I hope you did that with the AMEX. 204 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: No, it's too late. I was just I was just 205 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: reporting that news here to the studio before you got here. 206 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: It's outside the X window fourteen months ago. It's gotta 207 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: be twelve months to get the insurance. 208 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy. 209 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if he bought the extended insurance that 210 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: doesn't exist. 211 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Three jerseys you can throw out or at least give 212 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: good to goodwill or something. 213 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about the express insurance. We're talking about 214 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 3: matt Ishbia giving out a mortgage rate to the Nets. 215 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: That's a pretty good mortgage rate. 216 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: So do you think then what you were saying Durant 217 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: leaving the bench after the everything, like so Durant went 218 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: to them, went to uh Joe Siah and said, okay, 219 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: get me out of here too, right. Otherwise we were 220 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: like sitting here going okay, they traded Kyrie, all right, 221 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: you get off that headache, get some nice pieces back. 222 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: It's fine, it's not crazy, but like there's something there 223 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: to pack, you know, put around Kevin Durant. There's some 224 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: defensive minded guys there, and instead, you know, two days later, 225 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: he's gone, well, I. 226 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 5: Mean, obviously they must have had some sort of a 227 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 5: chat about it, but I also think it's probably you know, 228 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 5: the Nets get the offer from the Suns and they're 229 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 5: like four first round picks and a swap. We're trading 230 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 5: a thirty four year old guy who has injury problems 231 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 5: to a team that has had injury problems the entire season. 232 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: And the Bridge is part of it. Who you know 233 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: could be in You don't think Bridges could be an All 234 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: Star in this sleep? 235 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 5: Uh maybe if his team has sixty wins and he's 236 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 5: the third guy, that's good. I mean, he's fine, he's 237 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 5: fine to me. But I would trade Michale Bridges for 238 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant one hundred times out of one hundred, even 239 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: if Bridges ends up being a. 240 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 4: Three time also. 241 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I actually don't know that they'll hang around 242 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: on the nets either, because why why at this point 243 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 5: all they. 244 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: Have is three and D wings. 245 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: They got a lot of them. 246 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's basically all they got is wings who played three, 247 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 5: three and D. But I kind of think it's like, 248 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 5: I don't know. I didn't think that Kevin Drank would 249 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 5: get traded this year. 250 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: I thought it would take too much negotiation and just 251 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 4: to be a lot easier to do. 252 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 5: But the Sons had a ton of picks. They had 253 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 5: youngish players, and that's exactly what you're looking for in 254 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 5: a deal for somebody who may at the very least 255 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 5: be unhappy in the future. We know it was unhappy 256 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 5: in the past in the introim who knows. So a 257 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 5: good job by the Nets, I think to be able 258 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: to get back players and to be able to get 259 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 5: back these picks and maybe still make moves going forward. 260 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 5: I just don't think that they are a team to 261 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 5: worry about going forward this season. I mean, maybe they'll 262 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 5: hang out in in the play in tournament, but I 263 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 5: think they'll drop pretty far down the standings. 264 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: It sounds like they're going to try and move Crowder 265 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: here too, to a possible contender before the deadline ends 266 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: at three pm today. Keep forgetting that it's today. 267 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: They did as best as they could. I think the 268 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 3: Nets front office, even going back to the summer, was 269 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: thinking about let's just blow this thing up to some 270 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: degree with Kevin Durant and so I don't even know 271 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: if they talked in the last forty eight hours, they've 272 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: been thinking about it. They were kind of in this 273 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: mindset before the season with Josiah and Sean Marks where 274 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: they were just upset with the direction of the team, 275 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: with the attitude of the team, and so I think 276 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: that's carried over and basically that's as good as you 277 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: can get. Essentially, Mickel Bridges is not a number one. 278 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: I agree with trade to some degree here. He is 279 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: an ogn and ob type. If the best ability is availability, 280 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: then he's the best player in the league. The guy 281 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 3: doesn't miss it again. But guess what the best ability 282 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: is not availability. He's a very good player. He's not 283 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: a number one. You know him in the two cams. 284 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: Two cams is exciting, Cam Johnson and now Cam Thomas. 285 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: The future is here. 286 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: The cams campaign for the trade. 287 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: That's a good call. Triple cams not quite the studio. 288 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: Here we go. How many cams we got? Yeah, new 289 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: Camon Dua, I see five at least. Man We blew 290 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: the budget, but I think that is the best they 291 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: could do. They got a twenty three to twenty five 292 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: to twenty seven and a twenty nine from the Suns. 293 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: They don't have their own picks, so yeah, they don't 294 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: have their own future to bank up, but now they 295 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: have the Sun's future to bank on. I do think 296 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: the twenty three and twenty five pick aren't going to 297 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: be all that great. They do get the swap. As 298 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: you said, they're in twenty eight, so they're banking on 299 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: the second half of this decade, Chris Paul being gone. 300 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: Who knows what happens with Kevin Durant's age, But the 301 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: Sons have their team. I don't I don't think they're 302 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: they're moving off this until Kevin Durant becomes, you know, 303 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: a shell of himself laid in his thirties or I 304 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: I'm just comfortable saying that Kevin Durant is healthy enough. 305 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: He's bounced back. We thought he was done in when 306 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: he had that foot injury in twenty sixteen. I mean 307 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: people were questioning before he went to the Warriors. I 308 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: guess it was twenty fourteen. I'm getting my years mixed up, 309 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: But before he went to the Warriors, and so he's 310 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: bounced back, and he's bounced back after the Warriors injury. 311 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm being crazy. It's a different era. 312 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: Players are playing, you know, later into their thirties. So 313 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with the Nets taking this chance. And at 314 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: the same time, as I said off the top, the 315 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: Nets taking a chance here too, to to really tear 316 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: it up. That's why I feel so good. It feels 317 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: like both teams swinging and I'm. 318 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: Not sitting here and applauding the Brooklyn Nets. 319 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: This is f you mean for the last few year. 320 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you can put a lot of the blame 321 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: on the players, but also put some on the front office. 322 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: They brought in three again Hall of famers and won 323 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: one playoff series. It's like a good team. Yeah, right, 324 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. And Brooklyn still owes Houston their first round 325 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: picks in twenty four twenty six. Rockets have the right 326 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: to swap in twenty five twenty seven. Yeah, they got 327 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: some back here. They got I guess seven tradable first 328 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: rounders over the next seven years here in these moves 329 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: they've made sending out Kyrie and KD. But it's it's 330 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: not that's this is pretty sad. I mean, look, the 331 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: Rockets are probably happy with this deal, right because of 332 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: those picks. I just said, like, they want the Nets 333 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: to be as bad as possible moving forward here, and 334 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna probably be worse getting rid of Kyrie and KD. 335 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: But maybe they won't. 336 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, because they were running the overront office whatever 337 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: and all of the just the negativity and the and 338 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: the bad headlines hanging over them. Maybe they'll just feel 339 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: feel a little looser and They basically just went back 340 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: to the old Nets before they ended up trying to 341 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: build the superstar team. 342 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: Crazy crazy, but Kenny Atkins and Nets. Yeah, yeah, the 343 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: the Spencer, Dinwiddie and Nick Claxton and the Cams. Now, 344 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: you know, injuries played a factor in that super team 345 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: that didn't work out. 346 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a factor. 347 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: You gotta mention it. But yeah, the headache is gone, 348 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: and I think that was part of the the move here, 349 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 3: the Sean Marks. Let's move on. Let's uh, let's get 350 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: back to the Kenny days. It's a lot. 351 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 4: Easier when you don't have to try and win, you know. 352 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 353 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: As Utah Watson Abie tweeted this morning at eight thirty 354 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: six am, once again the one for the World. It's 355 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: it's translated from Google, but uh this this. 356 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: Is you drop it, you drop it in the Utah 357 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: in Japanese tweeted once again the Wonderful World. You think 358 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: Utah is just happy, just he's just out there now 359 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: playing ball. Thanks are feeling good. 360 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: You gotta assume you know what, it's the positivity you 361 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: needer than that after the last couple of days. 362 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, any other thoughts here on on the Sun's 363 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: Nets blockbuster deal. 364 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I do have some thoughts. Kevin 365 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 5: duran He's switching conferences. Did you hear Eastern Conference to 366 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 5: Western Conference? You think that makes people want to pay 367 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 5: more for an OGN ANDOBI. If you're the Denver Nuggets, 368 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 5: aren't you a little bit more like WHOA probably can't guard? 369 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant with KCP and MPJ, I think that there 370 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 5: should be teams that are calling now saying we absolutely 371 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: need a big time wing defender if we're going to 372 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: be making a run here. Because the Nuggets have been 373 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 5: in the lead in the Western Conference for quite some time. 374 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 5: They've been a team we've been talking about, probably still 375 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 5: needs to make a move because they're a little shallow 376 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 5: after their solid starting five. 377 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 4: They definitely need a defender and a big wing. 378 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 5: They've been an OG team for sure, as has Memphis, 379 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: ye as has the Pelicans, though they've fallen off as 380 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 5: a team and kind of it feels like a little 381 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 5: bit in the sweepstakes. But I do think this makes 382 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 5: OG even more desirable to a team like Denver or Memphis, 383 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 5: who now needs to figure out how do we deal 384 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: with a new MVP candidate coming to the team. 385 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you stop that team? Period? Booker is 386 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: obviously a huge problem. So those two guys, and I 387 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: know everybody just wants to say that Chris Paul is washed. 388 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy is shooting thirty nine percent from 389 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: three this season. If he's your third best offensive player 390 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: called DeAndre ay and whatever, you just can't stop this team, 391 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: regardless of who you get. That's why they're They're gonna 392 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: be the best offense. 393 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: So do you agree with what Trey saying here that 394 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: the Nuggets and Grizzlies should be, you know, increasing their 395 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: their potential deal for an og and really trying to 396 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: go for him here with this being so open. 397 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 3: Totally when you're starting Michael Porter Junior, Jamal Murray, you 398 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 3: gotta worry about your defense, period. And so yeah, sure, 399 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: why the heck not to me? The West was open 400 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: at the top and Denver should be trying for whatever 401 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: they can get to try and make it happen, and 402 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 3: now the Suns are pushing them. Yeah, what would the 403 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: offer for og b? I don't know. I don't know 404 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: if do they have the pieces just a lot of picks. 405 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: We're talking about bones. Michael Porter Junior, picks yeah, and 406 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: the Grizzly side of things. That was a long time ago. 407 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: Now that trade we had some in there. There was 408 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: like there was like pieces of you know, Zaire Williams. 409 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: There was one with Dylan Brooks, there was one without 410 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: I was trying very hard to get Desmond Bay to 411 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: the Raptors. That's not happening. But yeah, there are packages 412 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: that I think both teams could could make, though I 413 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: also don't know what the Raptors are doing now, and 414 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: we'll get to them. Bring him back Hurtle, Yeah exactly, 415 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, I do think that the Nuggets and Grizzlies. 416 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: Definitely the Nuggets here with an MVP guy and Jokic's 417 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: like with what now the Sons have done, with what 418 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: the MAVs have done, do it for do it for 419 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: him as well, do it for your franchise, do it 420 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: for your fan base. Like, no, we're not going overboard here, 421 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: but like get some help, get some defensive minded guys 422 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: that you can at least slow some of these perimeter 423 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: guys down or at least try to, and we'll see 424 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: if they're aggressive here. It feels like bones Isiland couldn't 425 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: be traded today. Guy doesn't play anymore. So he's an 426 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: enticing young player to start a deal with to try 427 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: and get like an O G or someone else. 428 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: So I guess the price has gone down for everybody. 429 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: All that's all that that stuff that we were talking about, 430 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: the two first round picks for Yaka Purdle, all a 431 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 3: pile of WHOI every single player, even og An Andobi's 432 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: price coming down. 433 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: They wanted four at first the Mitchell package, then it 434 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: turned to three. 435 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it would definitely not be three. It would definitely 436 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: not be three. I don't think bones and Michael Porter 437 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: Junior does it for Messiu Jeri. That's that's too risky. 438 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: But it's it's gonna be hard to compete with the 439 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 3: with the Suns that maybe you just wait it out 440 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: and hope they get old. But yeah, it makes sense 441 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: to to go for at some point. I think the 442 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: the thinness of the Sun's rotation is a bit overblown, 443 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: already eight hours into this thing, because they still do 444 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 3: have a couple of their own draft picks here. Even 445 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 3: though they've traded a bunch and they you know, they 446 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: they still could trade Sarcho, as I said, they could 447 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: make another pick swap, like when you've got those four 448 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: guys that we've mentioned. You gotta feel good no matter what. Yeah, 449 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: I think what they're doing here, I think it's a 450 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: bit overblown, just that they don't have anybody to defend. 451 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 3: Kevin Durant is a pretty good defender. I mean, they've 452 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 3: got a good, very good, very very very very very 453 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 3: very very good tea. 454 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: They are banking on the health of these guys. Chris 455 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: Paul and his age holding up in a playoff run. Obviously, Booker, 456 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, just hoping he's fine after his injury. And 457 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's the huge one. The guy's plays like one 458 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty games over the last three seasons or 459 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: something like that. Some of it just unfortunate guy's fallen 460 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: into them. But yeah, those three guys out there, DeAndre 461 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: Ayton is playing well. If that's your third or fourth guy, 462 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: you're good like. And this is a team that's gone 463 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: far already again disappointing last year, and everybody just laughs 464 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: at them. What a joke, But holy crap, I thank 465 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. Yeah, yeah, it's wild. Seth Partner had a 466 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: fun tweet about this this morning. I thought just made 467 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: me think, is he the best player at the time 468 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: of the trade to get traded in season or who 469 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: was the last one? Even is a good way to 470 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: look at it. In season, you know, best player at 471 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: the time of the trade, hardens in the mix, exactly, 472 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: hardened to the nets. Yeah, yeah, hardened to the nets. 473 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: I would say, Jimmy Butler to the Sixers. 474 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler to the six Ers. Yeah, that's not That's 475 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: a pretty good one. Yeah, trying to think who else? 476 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: I mean Rashid Wallace obviously a few years, many years back, 477 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: nearly twenty years Backasla Lakers Palgasault to the Lakers. That 478 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: was a swinger robbery. 479 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: And then you're not gonna like this one. Maybe maybe Marcasus. 480 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: On this one. 481 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: Vince Carter to the Nets. He's a damn good player. 482 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: He was. 483 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was sandbagging it in Toronto, but he was 484 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: a damn good player. So as he put on the. 485 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: Nets, trat that was I was an early in season trade. 486 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: Wasn't that a December trade? You don't see that too 487 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 3: in the NBA. Yeah, December seventeenth, two thousand and four. 488 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: Also nearly twenty years ago. 489 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: Oh jeez, but. 490 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 3: Like your godson, apparently I talked myself into Vince Carter 491 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: being traded for Eric Williams, Aaron Williams and the ghost 492 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: of Alonzo Morning, who said, no way, I'm going there. 493 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 3: It's cold there. We'll get to the Toronto forecast a 494 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: little bit later in the show. Did you guys, Did 495 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: you guys tune in for the forecast the Toronto forecast, 496 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: because we'll get to that later on in the show. 497 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: It's it's coming. But I talked myself into that. Your 498 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: god's apparently talking himself into the two cam and Spencer Dinwiddie. 499 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: And oh you got no choice, I mean. 500 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: He he, Oh, he could change teams. 501 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: He doesn't need to be a Nets fan anymore. 502 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be It's right. He was obviously 503 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: living in New York for a little bit, decided not 504 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: to be a Knicks fan. Jump Over was a Nets fan. 505 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: That's smart. Why not, jump Over, jump Over? 506 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Don't even just leave the Knicks. Don't be a Knicks fan. 507 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean you live in Atlanta, now, kid, I mean, 508 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: hell be a Hawks fan. You should have been a 509 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: Raptors fan. It's on his It's on his father. His 510 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: father's a team of all fan of all thirty yeah, exactly. 511 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: He screwed up kid as it is. 512 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 3: I mean he's got thirty logos on his jacket. 513 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly exactly. 514 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: But no, just I would say jump over the mckel 515 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: bridges and go over to Manhattan. 516 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: No, I respect it. I mean I want him to like, 517 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: talk yourself into a camp Thomas. Guy's on fire, talk 518 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: yourself into a Claxton. 519 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: Oh it's coming from a. 520 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: More fun team to watch, or at least cheerfour. I 521 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: should say to cheer. 522 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: Four, pain all the underdogs. You So you're saying, like 523 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 3: as a as a sports fan of a team that 524 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 3: had some tough times. Yeah, pain. Sports fandom misery is 525 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 3: sports fandom. 526 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: Course. All right, let's take a break. We do have 527 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: some more trades to dissect, so don't go anywhere. We're 528 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: back in like sixty seconds. All right, here in the 529 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: classic factory Thursday trade deadline day. If you're just joining us, 530 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: here's the big blockbuster that happened. What like one o'clock 531 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: last night, one am Eastern something like that. Again, we 532 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: were sleeping, I was cuddling my pillow. Sons received Kevin Durant, 533 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: TJ Warren nets getting back mckil bridges, Cam Johnson Jay 534 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Crowder who might be rerouted today to another team. We'll 535 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 1: wait to find out. Four first round picks twenty three, 536 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty seven, twenty nine, and a twenty eight 537 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: pick swap. We just did a good twenty minutes weighing 538 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: in on it. People are pumped about the Suns going 539 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: for a championship, Nets getting back a decent return. There 540 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: in two really good young players in Bridges and Camp 541 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: and then all that draft capital to try and put 542 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more in the cupboard after that hard 543 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: and trade. But let's hear your thoughts. 544 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and here's a tie in as well, our man 545 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: Esh chiming in with another big name that was traded 546 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: in season. Carmelo Anthony. We forgot about him twenty eleven, 547 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 3: was traded from the Nuggets to the Knicks. Tie in, 548 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: Sons could use a guy who wants a ring pick 549 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 3: and hit some shots. He's not retired, he's available, just 550 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: a depth guy more. Just hey, come on, come on over, 551 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: just just be a part of a champion. Carmelo Anthony. 552 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: Why not? 553 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: If you are joining us live on YouTube and you're 554 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: new here, hit the like button. We got a lot 555 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: of people live right now and not enough likes, so 556 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: take a second do that, make sure you subscribe to 557 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: No Dunks here on YouTube, and hopefully we'll be going 558 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: live all throughout the day with some fun stuff. Let's 559 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: put aside the blockbuster for a second and let's talk 560 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: about some of the other deals that went down last night, 561 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: and we will begin with the Portland Trail Blazers trading 562 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: Josh Hart to the Knicks in exchange for Cam Reddish, 563 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: Svee and Ryan. I'm on a first name basis with 564 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: those guys, no reason why, we're just real tight. Makay 565 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: Luke and Archie Diacino. Sure, I took a chance at it, 566 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: and a twenty three first round pick that's protected, so again, 567 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: heart to the Knicks. Blazers gonna be the next team 568 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: to maybe take a flyer on Cam Reddish Spee Ryan 569 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: to make the money work. And a twenty three first 570 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: round pick which is protected and I believe it's lottery protected. 571 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: It turns into four second rounders if it doesn't convey 572 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: this year, which is a little rare for that type 573 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: of thing to happen. But anyway, thoughts thoughts on the 574 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: Knick side of things getting hard. He's the real player 575 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: in this trade. 576 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: He's a TIBs type of player. Yeah, he's going to 577 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: get out there. I don't think he starts on this 578 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: team because I think Quentin Grimes has been griming it 579 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 3: pretty well for the New York Nicks. I mean, he 580 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: is their three point shooter, just to provide space for 581 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 3: Julius Randall out there. Josh Hart has not been shooting 582 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 3: it as much. He fits coming off the bench though, 583 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: And it's really interesting from the Blazer side of things. 584 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: We were thinking, Oh, they're buyers coming to the trade deadline, 585 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: but this is probably a smarter move to trade something 586 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: for a first round pick, which is probably going to 587 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: convey this year. They're probably going to get it high teens. Yeah, 588 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: and a flyer on Cam Reddish. So I don't hate 589 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: it from either side. I think the Blazers shouldn't be 590 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: trying to go for it. There's a fly right there. 591 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: I take it a fly. 592 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 1: I was eating a banana in her in here earlier. 593 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: May have brought the fruits. I kinda don't have time 594 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: for breakfast this morning. 595 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: I like it for both sides, but yeahs TIBs and 596 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: Josh Hart. 597 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: TIBs and Josh Oh, what a perfect And. 598 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: You say that just a hard nosed guard rebounds TIBs 599 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: like guy, despite undersized, just gonna play obviously on the 600 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: defensive end. 601 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: Sounds sounds like you're describing Keith Bogans to me, I 602 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 5: think Josh Hart's a little better than Keith Bogans. 603 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so can handle. 604 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 4: He's a better rebounder. Yeah, Yeah, he's a better transition player. 605 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 606 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 4: I think it's better if you're. 607 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 5: Comparing Josh Hart specifically to Keith Bogan's a player for 608 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 5: the early twenty tens. I think this is fair from 609 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: the Knicks. They needed help on the boards. Josh Hart 610 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 5: will help there. They were a little fin on the wing. 611 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 5: They got they got a lot of guards, they got 612 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: a lot of big guys wing position. It's kind of grimy. 613 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 5: It's Barrett and now it's gonna be Josh Hart. So 614 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 5: I think he helps there. He doesn't help with the 615 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 5: three point shooting, but he will play hard. And I 616 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 5: mean they gave up nothing from their rotation, so I 617 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 5: think this is pretty fair. I also think the Knicks 618 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 5: are gonna stick in the playoffs this year, Like they've 619 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 5: won enough games at this point that it will be 620 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 5: surprising that they fall into the lottery. 621 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, this pick will. 622 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 5: Probably go, but it'll be one that they're fine with losing. 623 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 5: Middle of the first rounder kind of like that. You 624 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 5: probably would be hoping to draft a Josh Hart caliber 625 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: player at that draft slot. So I think pretty smart here, 626 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 5: assuming that the Knicks are able to come to a 627 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 5: deal with Josh Hart, because maybe you would be a 628 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 5: little sad about trading a first round or for a 629 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 5: rental on a guy who's going to be coming off 630 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 5: the bench. 631 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's probably why a part of the reason 632 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: why at least the Blazers moved off of Hard here too. Right, 633 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: he does have a player option at the end of 634 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: the season. It's almost certain he's going to opt out 635 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: of that try and earn more money. And by all reports, 636 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: the Blazers wanted to focus more on Jeremy Grant than 637 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: Josh Hart. That's sort of the pecking order there, uh 638 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: and in terms of priority, So that's a part of 639 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: the reason why he's moved here. Maybe more minutes for 640 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: for sharp shading sharp there, you know, Gary Payton second, 641 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: just lets them play a little bit more as another possibility, 642 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, I like this for the Knicks here, and 643 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys saw the clip. Jalen Brunson, his 644 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: former Villanova teammate, He was pumped. That may have been 645 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: the most like pumped I've ever seen Jalen Brunson, absolutely right, 646 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: Like that guy is stoic, I mean on the floor 647 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: for all, from all I've seen off the floor. But yeah, 648 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: finding out uh that that that heard his buddy was 649 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: coming over to join the Knicks. He was freaking pumped up. 650 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Just cool to see. 651 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 5: That was Ryan Archie Giaco on those Villanova teams as well. 652 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 5: He was definitely on Villanova, so I imagine he was 653 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 5: a teammate. 654 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: But Jalen Brunson is like, he sucks Josh Hart a 655 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 4: lot better. 656 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it was just a perfect clip. It almost 657 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: seemed slightly staged because he was at like. 658 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: A Villanova Yeah right right, so that's made it even weirder. 659 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: He was wearing a Villa jacket. He got extremely pumped 660 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: that his man was coming to join him for sure. Yeah, 661 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: great moment. Also, Josh Hart was just just a note 662 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: here for all the fantasy lovers out there. Josh Hart 663 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 3: was like one of those fantasy wonders at the end 664 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: of last season with the Blazers, he had a forty 665 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: four point game when they were extremely thin, So Keith. 666 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: When they were tanking very hard. 667 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: Keith Bogans ever have a forty four point game. 668 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't what's Bogan's career high. Somebody look it up. 669 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 5: Bogans might have had like a forty four point season. 670 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 5: That's quite possible. 671 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: Important note for the nerds out there from Fred Katz, 672 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: Fred Katz on the Boulevard. Because the Knicks own the 673 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: mavericks twenty three first rounder, and because that pick is 674 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: only top ten protected and thus extremely likely to convey 675 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: this summer, New York would still almost certainly be able 676 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: to trade its twenty four first rounder in a trade 677 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: this summer. So what does that mean? If a star 678 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: another star becomes available in the off season, new York 679 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: will have its full allotment of up to four first 680 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: rounders to trade, even though it just dealt a lot 681 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: of your protected pick here in twenty three. Good note 682 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: there from Cats. You know, if if there's a big 683 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: splashy move to get a beel or e Levine or 684 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: the Knicks like want to go that direction, they still 685 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: they still have the war chest here too, to try 686 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: and get it. I think that is important. 687 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 3: That is important. Thanks cats, Thanks cats, and I want 688 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: to on the other side the Blazers. 689 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: The Blazers, all right, that kind of day. 690 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks cats, all right, I'm good with it. And 691 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: then we get a quick quick me out. 692 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: Hey in the slack channel for ads, did you hit 693 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: the little like button because you own a cat? Are 694 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: you interested in a potential cat litter product to promote here? 695 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: To be honest, we need to promote right now. 696 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: Of course, of course I did you got a cat? 697 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: You got a cute little cat? Man, I hate cats, 698 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: So you got a cute little cat sushi? 699 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 3: You might eat that kid up. You might call her 700 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 3: a perfect kitty. I think that's the name of the product. 701 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: I think I think a right. Anyway, it's a Blazer 702 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 3: side of things. They trade. Josh Hart I like it. 703 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: You can't just sign everybody. The Blazers have to, as 704 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: we've talked about, change it up to some degree. Does 705 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 3: that mean usef Nurkic is gonna be dealt as well? 706 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: Because they're clearly sellers to some degree. I think everybody 707 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: beyond Jeremy Grant, Damian Lillard, maybe Shade and Sharp are 708 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: untouchable or those are those are touchable. I guess I 709 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: should say probably not the right word. Everybody else is credible, 710 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 3: tradable besides Lillard, Grant and maybe Shade and Sharp, everybody 711 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 3: else is tradable. I think that makes a ton of sense. 712 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: I just find the Blazer are so depressing. 713 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: Like you were high. 714 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: I was high, I was looking smart for a little while. 715 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: The defense was like, oh, okay, there's something there. That 716 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: was when they were missing Gary Payton the second start 717 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: of the season, and like they just fell off a cliff, 718 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: and I just like, what I mean is like it's 719 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: so depressing. It's like Damian Lillard is averaging thirty one 720 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: points per game. It's having an unreal year, and here 721 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: they are like gonna just be praying that you get 722 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: into a playing spot, and like no one takes them 723 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: serious right as currently constructed, uh with Nurk and Grant, 724 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: and even though there are pieces there, Simon's obviously he 725 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: has a big game where he hits a million threes, 726 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, just like ugh, Wizards West, Oh, 727 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: that's depressing way to put it. 728 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, don't worry. We're gonna talk about Yaka Perol 729 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 3: on the rap soon so get me. Yeah. 730 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: Uh Nurkic I think is a guy who could be moved. 731 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, he's signed through the twenty twenty sixth season, so 732 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 5: you're gonna need a team who's got a lot of 733 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 5: money laying around also in desperate need of a center. 734 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 5: Jeremy Grant I would think stays in Portland, but he's 735 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 5: an expiring deal as well, so maybe they just decide 736 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 5: let's see what we can get for him. Pull the 737 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 5: plug there. And I mean I've been advocating trading Simons 738 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 5: since before he even blew up. 739 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 4: I still think they should do it, just because it 740 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense. Man. It just doesn't make sense to 741 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 4: keep doing the exact same thing expecting it to change. 742 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 4: That's what the Wizards did. That's what the Wizards did. 743 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 5: They went from Beal or from Wall and Beal to 744 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 5: Bale and Westbrook to now just Beale. 745 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 4: It's the same thing. You're just trying to finish tenth 746 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 4: every year. 747 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's a good sign that Joe 748 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 3: Cronin is moving Josh Hart because you could easily just say, oh, 749 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 3: we can do it, we can do it. We got 750 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 3: the defensive parts and hope for it. Obviously, the Yusuf 751 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: Nurkic contract is a bit of an impediment to deal 752 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: him Anthony Simons. I think it's not. He has such 753 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 3: a ceiling and such a high ceiling as a score. 754 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 3: You just have to find the right team, and we've 755 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 3: talked about the Orlando Magic as a team that he 756 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,479 Speaker 3: could go to. He is signed through twenty twenty six. 757 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 3: About the Raptors from twenty two million up to twenty 758 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 3: seven million, Yes, a guard who can score, Yeah, totally. 759 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: You just need to find the right team for Anthony Simons, 760 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: and the Blazers doesn't seem like it's the right team 761 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 3: with Dame beside him. I totally agree with that. 762 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's get too teenage mutan yak A Pertle. 763 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 1: The spur have traded Parle back to the Toronto Raptors. Yes, 764 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: that's where he started his career when he played two 765 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: years and then he was traded in the Kawide deal. 766 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: The Raps in getting Purtle send Ken Burch a Fine 767 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: Tree protected twenty twenty four first round pick and two 768 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: future second round picks. So are you pumped the Purtle's 769 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: coming back to the Raptors. Are you confused that the 770 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: Raptors are are acquiring a player instead of shipping out one. 771 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: Obviously still time left here before the deadline. 772 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 3: But what do you think it's still ship one out? 773 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 3: Of course the price has gone down free Yaka Purdle, 774 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 3: It's not too high a price. He's twenty seven, solid player, 775 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: maybe even a little overblown in this factory over the 776 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: last few months. At what he can do. 777 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: Excellent rim protector, very simple, offensive game excellent. 778 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, players are shooting over sixty percent when they get 779 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 3: close to the rim, and Yakub is in between the 780 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: rim and that player. 781 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: I will say, I think Perdl, it's been better than 782 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: that yours prior, and I think around more talent that 783 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: will drop. 784 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 3: Okay, you're right, You're right. 785 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: That is his one really good skill set, and he. 786 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: Can handle it a little bit. He's not He's not 787 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: stiff with the ball. He can move the ball. I'm 788 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: sure Jerome is gonna find some good tweets from Raptors, 789 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: faithful from people who are excited about Yaka. 790 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: Perls spicy psy and skills. Those guys are buds, yeah, 791 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: best friends. So I'm back together. 792 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: So as the first question, are you surprised that they're 793 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 3: going for it rather than tearing it down? 794 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 4: I don't. 795 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say this is going for it. 796 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 3: But okay, I here, okay, here's why. 797 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 4: Of course it's coming up. 798 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: We're looking at yaking skills here on YouTube. 799 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: The Spurs made this move because they were back probably. 800 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: Probably pretty I don't know, I don't. I don't love 801 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 3: calling him skills. I know that's his handle, but that 802 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 3: that was that was. 803 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 2: Back in the day. Yeah, how they're pairing it was 804 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: yacking skills, yack and sack. 805 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 3: I mean, yeack sacks. Come on, that's good stuff. 806 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: It is no surprise the Spurs move move Parle here 807 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: because they weren't gonna likely resign them. So there is 808 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: that part of the equation here. 809 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 3: Too from this burst. 810 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: How much is this guy is? The pay increase is 811 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: current salary? This guy is a really really solid, you 812 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: know center, But you know, once you start paying them more, 813 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: it's like can you keep up with that? And has 814 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: he hit a sort of peak as a player too? 815 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: Being what twenty seven years old? I mean, I guess 816 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: in his prime? Is he going to be get that 817 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: much better? Probably not? But the Raptors. They are a 818 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: middle of the pack defensive team when everybody thought they'd 819 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: be way better. And that we're talking defensive rating, defensive 820 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: rebounding percentage, opponents field goal percentage. They're just like average 821 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: or below average. So Partle helps in all those categories. 822 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: The weird part of all this is, yeah, what what 823 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: are we doing? Raps? Are are we just going to 824 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: like go for it in the sense this year like 825 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: they're pretty far behind, but go for it and try 826 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: and just make the playoffs and then like regroup next 827 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: year or in the next couple hours. Here, Wow, what 828 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: a deal the Nuggets are throwing at us or the 829 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: Grizzlies or the Blazers or whoever for og or is 830 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: it carry Trent Junior or is it Fred Band. 831 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at that. I look at those two 832 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 3: scenarios totally different. They got a starting center, Yeah, he 833 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: can still do whatever they want with the rest of 834 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 3: their roster. They didn't overpay a protective first round pick essentially, 835 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 3: and Ken Birch, Yeah, they can still go both directions. 836 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: Massias kept his option open. 837 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, the Raptors were going to NITA Center 838 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 5: next season, regardless of how this season ends up. They 839 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 5: are back in the play in tournament. Exciting times for Toronto. 840 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't even realize they're actually winning games right now. 841 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: This is like one of their best stretches of the season. 842 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 5: But I'm a task I don't think this means that 843 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 5: the Raptors are going for it this season. 844 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 4: I don't. 845 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 5: I mean, maybe, if things click right, they could get 846 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 5: up the sixth, but it feels like as constructed, a 847 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 5: first round out team is the maximum for the Raptors 848 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 5: right now. So if people are interested, Nogi, sure, let's see, 849 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 5: let's get some picks going forward. Because you traded one 850 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 5: for Thad Young, you traded one for Yaka Perl, You're 851 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 5: gonna want to replenish those Also kind of weird that 852 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 5: the Spurs and the Raptors just trading with each other. Yeah, 853 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 5: there are other teams, Call them up, Call them up. 854 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 5: Twenty eight more teams out there, Masai RC, you got 855 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 5: their numbers. But I think like Van Bleet is still 856 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 5: gettible as well. Gary Trent Junior still gettable if you wanted, Oh, Jiannaoby, 857 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 5: still gettable as you wanted, or if teams make the 858 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 5: right offer, or if you're Toronto, you just say the price. 859 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 4: Wasn't good enough, We'll roll with what we got. 860 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 5: Signed Pearl next season and at least we've got a 861 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 5: center figured out for next year, because the same problems 862 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 5: would rear their ugly heads next season as well. 863 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: I like to pretend that Pearl sort of tanked his 864 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: performance last night playing the Raptors too in Toronto. Like 865 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: we kept saying the Spurs wanted two first round picks 866 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: for Pearl. Nope, we're not trading them unless we get two. 867 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: He goes out last night. He played like crap against 868 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: the Raps. You know, four of eleven for him is very, 869 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: very bad. He was a minus eleven out there. He 870 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: only scored twelve boyds. Didn't do a whole lot, but 871 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: he did on purpose because he wants to go back 872 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: to Toronto. So he's like, if I played like garbage 873 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: in this game Spurs Raps, then maybe they have to 874 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: take the the requirement of two picks down to one 875 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: and then some future second round picks. 876 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 3: Were good move. Respect to you taking in games last night. 877 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: I was trying to watch my Raps, but man, there 878 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: was too much going on. 879 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 3: Well, trades are happening. Yeah, we did an emergency podcast 880 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 3: if you haven't checked it out on the three team 881 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 3: deal between the Lakers, Wolves, and Jazz, that'll we'll touch 882 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 3: on here. But to me, it didn't even feel like 883 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 3: basketball was being played last night. 884 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: It was a weird one. 885 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 4: I watched the MAVs game to watch it. 886 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 3: Ye, what's your take on Kyrie. 887 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 4: That's a pretty good score. 888 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 5: Their team looks a lot better with him on the 889 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 5: court and Luca off the court than when it's Luca 890 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 5: off the court and nobody else play any So, a 891 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 5: really nice win for the MAVs. They've got two wins 892 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 5: back to back now without Luca. Pretty impressive. 893 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 4: And who knows it. 894 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 5: I still feel like the window is this season for 895 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 5: Dallas because who knows what happens in the off season. 896 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 5: Because if you're the Lakers, you're looking at the return 897 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 5: you got last night, you're saying. 898 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 4: Oh, that ain't Kevin Durant, right, Yeah. 899 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 5: I think the Lakers trade looks a lot worse than 900 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 5: the lighted day now that we've seen Kevin Durant make 901 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 5: a move as well. 902 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: And the other part of that Mavericks game too, Josh 903 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: Green looking amazing and a lot of people are more 904 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: opportunity there and Reggie Bullock had a good game too 905 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: as a nascot. That win and the Spurs, just the 906 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: Spurs side of things, they get one first round pick, yeah, 907 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: for a guy that they probably are not going to resign, 908 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: like I said in Perdle, And they do keep acquiring 909 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: first round picks here, right, Derek White got one at 910 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: the deadline last year for them. You said the Thad 911 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: Young there was another one that they got from the 912 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: Raps that was a first round pick. Got a boatload 913 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: of them in the de Jonte Murray trade in the 914 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: off season, and then one more here. They have a 915 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: lot of draft capital, the Spurs, and they are going 916 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 1: to be well under the salary cap floor there. They're 917 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of money to play with if 918 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: they want, if they can get anybody to their to 919 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: their team. 920 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: And they're chasing the Rockets as in the bottom of 921 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 3: the standings. They've lost ten straight games. They lose games 922 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,439 Speaker 3: by an average of ten points per game, the worst 923 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 3: in the NBA in terms of net rating. They're close 924 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 3: to those Rockets still have one more win, tied with 925 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 3: the Detroit Pistons. That's what's important. The Webbin Yamas sweepsticks 926 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 3: for this season, but the right direction for the San 927 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 3: Antonio spurst I questioned the de Jonte Murray trade whether 928 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 3: it was, you know, the right move. They're trading their 929 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 3: best player essentially, but they would have been on that 930 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 3: treadmill of mediocrity for a while with the Jontey Murray 931 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 3: and now they're they're going and they're getting out of that. 932 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 3: They're getting out of that that realm of just being 933 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 3: a play in tournament type team. 934 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think a part of the Jontey Murray 935 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: trade was also his personality and maybe friction with the 936 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 1: front office. That was a big part of them moving 937 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 1: I think too. 938 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 3: That's what he said on the podcast. Steven Jackson still. 939 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: Say not because of like he's not talented. 940 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 3: As well, He's doing his part in Atlanta. Yeah, your 941 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 3: god son can get a Murray jersey. 942 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll try and convince them. Let's just quickly go 943 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: over the Lakers Wolves Jazz three team deal. Now, we 944 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: did an emergency podcast last night. If you want to 945 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: hear us talk about this in great detail, fire that 946 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: one up. It's in your podcast feed, it's there on YouTube, 947 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: but here it is for everyone. The Lakers getting D'Angelo Russell, 948 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: Malik Beasley, Jared Vanderbilt, so potentially two starters or at 949 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: least three rotation players. The Jazz get Russell Westbrook, he 950 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: will very likely be bought out here and then we 951 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: can discuss where he's gonna go. Jta Damian Jones. They 952 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: get that twenty seven first round pick, and then the 953 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: Wolves getting in on this, they get Mike Conley Junior, 954 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: so they replace D'angela Russell with Conley, take a flyer 955 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: on Nikkeil, Alexander Walker, good old Canadian boy, and then 956 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of second round picks in four five, twenty six. 957 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: I'll try. Let's start with you. I mean again, we 958 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: did the podcast last night, but you say this one 959 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: now after a big Kevin Durant blockbuster, maybe some of 960 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: the other moves you're not as not as in love 961 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 1: with it from the Lakers side of things, But overall fine, 962 00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: what's your take? 963 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 3: Fine? 964 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 4: Yeah? 965 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 5: I think overall fine is the answer for me. I 966 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 5: think DiAngelo Russell has the best chance to be a JR. 967 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 5: Smith like pickup for the Lakers, similar to when the 968 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 5: Cavs traded for a Jr. And Aman Shumpert. Aman Shumpert 969 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 5: was like the big name in that one at the time, 970 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 5: but it was Jr's willingness to just chuck threes alongside 971 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 5: Lebron that was huge for him going to Cleveland. And 972 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 5: I think the confidence that Russell plays with will be 973 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 5: emboldened by Lebron saying anytime I pass you the ball, 974 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 5: shoot it, and that's what he needs to hear. Beasley 975 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 5: will do the same, that's just his game. I just 976 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 5: don't necessarily think that Beasley will be able to survive 977 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 5: in the playoffs. I don't think Jared Vanda Bolt will 978 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 5: be able to survive in the playoffs. And then a 979 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 5: team that they're gonna be chasing the Lakers, they're chasing 980 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 5: the Suns, and they just got Kevin Durant. So it's like, 981 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 5: you got three rotation players from some of the worst 982 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 5: teams in the league, and you think that's really gonna 983 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 5: push you over the edge. I'm a little skeptical. I 984 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 5: will say I like it more for the timber Wolves 985 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 5: than I did before I went to bed last night, 986 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 5: because I think, at the very least, a lateral move 987 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 5: from D'Angelo Russell to Mike Conley. Conley probably not going 988 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 5: to be thrown away games like Russell would occasionally. Probably 989 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 5: also won't win you games like Russell did occasionally, but 990 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 5: it makes it more likely that the Timberwolves are able 991 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 5: to keep nas reed. And I think he's a super 992 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 5: important player for them, so I think being able to 993 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 5: sign him in the summer will go a long way 994 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 5: for the Timberwolves. 995 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 3: I love the move for the Wolves. I think it 996 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 3: makes sense just to reallocate the shots because Russell was 997 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 3: handling and shooting a lot. Carlington Downs is going to 998 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 3: come back, he needs his shots. Mike Conley will sit 999 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 3: back and be a catch and shoot guy, shooting forty 1000 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 3: one percent on catch and shoot opportunities this season with 1001 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 3: the Jazz. I know a lot of people aren't watching 1002 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz unless you're a Utah Jazz fan. But 1003 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 3: I think he was extremely solid in his role. Obviously 1004 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 3: got to wonder about his health. Sure, I get it, 1005 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 3: but I think it makes it just a better fit 1006 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 3: for the Wolves, and he signed through next year. Yeah, 1007 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 3: as you said, the Wolves got to make some decisions 1008 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 3: with their their roster and Dangel Russell was an unrestricted 1009 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: free agent this offseason. Now, the Lakers just depleted their 1010 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 3: roster in the in the past few years trading for 1011 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook essentially, so they did not have the parts 1012 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 3: to go and get a big name. Rob Polinka did 1013 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 3: what he could here. He got three guys who are 1014 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 3: going to be a part of the rotation for a 1015 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 3: lightly protective first round pick. When that's and I think 1016 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 3: that's that's very solid. I think Jared Vanderbilt is going 1017 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 3: to be a key part of their team, especially with 1018 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis going to He's going to be able to 1019 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 3: play more for Even though Anthony Davis at the five 1020 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 3: is the best version of them, now that they have shooters, 1021 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 3: I think you could play Jared Vanderbilt Moore. He can 1022 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 3: even hit a corner three. He's been okay in that regard. 1023 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,919 Speaker 3: I like the makeup of their team way more. But yeah, 1024 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 3: they're not a championship type contender. And it was fun 1025 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 3: while it lasted as the number one trade at the 1026 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 3: Trade deadline poll here, but good to get it done 1027 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 3: before KD win there. Yeah. 1028 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: I love the timing, nice basing out of these trades 1029 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: that we could do that podcast last night, Go to Bed, 1030 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: Wake Up with the KD one, and some of these 1031 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: other ones. The Lakers just gotta start winning games. Now, 1032 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't care who's on their team if they're gonna 1033 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: make the actual play in tournament here and try and 1034 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. There are two games back of 1035 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: the Blazers, who we keep talking about are like a 1036 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: joke of a team, and they're the Wizards of the West. 1037 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: It's like they're two back of them, and obviously the 1038 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: Jazz and Thunder are in between them. I would expect 1039 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: the Jazz to sort of start to slip a little bit, 1040 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: but the Thunder, obviously we just saw beating the Lakers. 1041 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: They're frisky. I think they have no reason not to 1042 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: try and get in the play in tournament and get 1043 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: some reps for their young guys, you know, in some 1044 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 1: high stakes games for SGA and Giddy and those guys. 1045 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, they'll have to leapfrog them or hope some 1046 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: of these other teams above them fall out, be it 1047 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: the Pelicans, the Wolves, the Warriors, the Blazers, which I 1048 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: don't think is a given by any means. But what 1049 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: you were saying, like if you had the Lakers, because 1050 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: they have Lebron and Ady as a a five percent 1051 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: chance to win the title this year, like lower maybe 1052 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: like very very small it ticked up a tiny, tiny 1053 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: bit more so Plinka did something, and will he do 1054 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: something with the twenty nine first round pick here in 1055 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 1: the next couple hours. Are they done just their team 1056 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 1: or will they try and get one more piece, a 1057 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: solid player, rotation player that maybe you trust a little 1058 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: bit more like TK was saying, and some of these 1059 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: guys with that twenty nine first round pick, or do 1060 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 1: they hold on to that and be like, we got 1061 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: to have something in the future, We'll see. 1062 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 3: Responsible mortgage the entire future. I mean, that's what it 1063 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 3: sure sounds like they're doing. And at the same time, 1064 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 3: they they've hold on held on to one. But what 1065 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 3: can you get for that twenty nine first round pick? 1066 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,720 Speaker 4: Prices are going down? Man, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1067 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,439 Speaker 3: That's that's fair. I mean again, yeah, they got three 1068 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 3: rotation players for one, when we thought it would be 1069 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, one per one draft pick per rotation player. Yeaheah, 1070 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 3: whether it was Buddy Heel or Miles Turner. So the 1071 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 3: price has gone down, no doubt. 1072 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: Is Westbrook still the favorite to win six Man of 1073 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: the Year. What happens with that one? He should have 1074 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: never been that, but he was. But did they take 1075 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: it off the board. What do they do with that one? 1076 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 4: Who's going to be their sixth man? Now Lakers? Possibly? Yeah, 1077 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 4: that guy's the favorite. 1078 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: Then whoever's on the Lakers? Yeah, okay, I do think so. 1079 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, just because of betting, because it's the least bet 1080 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,240 Speaker 3: on award, So it's just market people. 1081 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: More people are betting on coach of the Year. 1082 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 3: Yes, that's a tough that's a tough call. You might 1083 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 3: be right, but I think Norm, speaking of La Markets, 1084 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 3: is the should be the favorite. 1085 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, Brogden or Norm, I think above Westbrook especially 1086 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: now anyway, those are the trades that we have right 1087 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: this second. Unless they're something happening. 1088 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 3: The Clippers might get Westbrook, sure, according to reports, then 1089 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 3: they have two sixth men to take six of the 1090 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 3: year away from Norm. They need a seventh Man of 1091 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 3: the Year award. They both deserve it. 1092 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1093 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: There were a lot of teams being linked, obviously to 1094 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: a potential acquiring of Westbrook after a buyout with the Jazz. 1095 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,439 Speaker 3: I'm the Clippers. I'm just saying things. I'm saying things 1096 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 3: because I just don't want this podcast and I just. 1097 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: Should we wrap it up now, I know, before the 1098 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: next big trade happens, So then we can. 1099 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 3: Regroup, aren't we out? 1100 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,439 Speaker 1: Well, No, the Raptors, they are the big one here. 1101 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:25,919 Speaker 3: That's a big trade. 1102 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: If the Raptors move Og or Fred, that's a big 1103 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: enough trade. Yeah if if if, if so, I think 1104 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: we should start wrapping this one up. All right, regroup, 1105 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: get ready for the next one up pick up results. 1106 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: So last night, yeah, there was basketball being played. I 1107 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: didn't watch a lot of this one six or Celtics. 1108 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 1: I know Jalen Brown broke his face though there's another 1109 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 1: All Star probably under the necks. We have a lot 1110 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: of injury replacements. Adam Silver is going to be busy. 1111 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: But the Sixers couldn't even beat basically the B team Celtics, 1112 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: who had uh what No Horford, no Marcus Smart, no 1113 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: Robert Williams. I'm feeling this vibe by the. 1114 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, yeah, well done, well yacht rocky, Yeah, a 1115 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 3: little bit. 1116 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: Funky anyway, the Sixers couldn't even cover, So Celtic's got 1117 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: to win. That's a win for task. Your four and 1118 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,959 Speaker 1: two Trey falls to three and three on'm two and four? 1119 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: What's tonight's game? 1120 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 3: We got four? 1121 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 1: Sing it to me? 1122 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 3: Four game nights. 1123 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: We got the game four game Night. 1124 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 4: Game Night. 1125 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,439 Speaker 3: Okay, the Bucks Lakers juicy one. 1126 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 4: I think Lebron's breaking the record tonight, guaranteed. 1127 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, it's just thirty eight nine hundred that he's 1128 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 3: getting to. 1129 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: Actually, is he even playing tonight? It feels like he 1130 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: should take win. He's gotta play. 1131 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 3: They're at home. The Bucks are favored by six points 1132 00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 3: going into l A. That's not our game. Sun's Hawks 1133 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 3: who not our game. Nuggets Magic also not our game. 1134 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 4: Oh the bull, bull Bull, the bull, bull, bull bull Bull. 1135 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 1: I thought you just said it twice. The bull bully time. 1136 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 3: He said it three times? 1137 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: He said it quick. 1138 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,720 Speaker 3: What about the Cold Bowl Bobo, the Cold Bow Bobo, 1139 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:26,720 Speaker 3: the colo co Anthy. Anyways, the Bulls are playing the Nets. 1140 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 3: That's our game of the night. That's the first, the 1141 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 3: first game on T n T. I thought we were 1142 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 3: wrapping this up. I know the Nets are favored by 1143 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 3: a point point five points. Not a coin flip. 1144 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 1: We don't see a lot of lines like this. Yeah, 1145 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 1: lost on a coin toss is a pickup. 1146 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure mcal Bridges isn't playing. I'm sure Cam Johnson 1147 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 3: isn't playing. I'd assume these guys are not coined. 1148 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: If you know, well what happens that does that mess 1149 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: up mckill bridges, iron Man Street. If he does not 1150 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 1: play in tonight's nets game. 1151 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 4: I think that ends it. 1152 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: Oh if really, yeah, you probably are right, but that'd 1153 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: be unfortunate. 1154 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 3: Trade is cleared. Wow. Wow. Anyways, Tray's got the bulls. 1155 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 3: You got the bulls? Sure, I've got the nets. Oh right, 1156 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 3: I know this was high priority going into today's show 1157 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 3: with all these trades happened. But yeah, we'll see who 1158 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 3: wins in a battle of the bulls. Don't get up 1159 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 3: for teams that aren't at the top. So that's why 1160 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 3: I took the nets ahead the bulls. What's that? 1161 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 4: That's ahead of the bulls? 1162 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 1: So dub for the bulls up picked up? 1163 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 3: All right? 1164 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 4: They got five all stars? 1165 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,720 Speaker 1: Who does the bulls? 1166 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 2: Cool En de. 1167 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 4: Drummond dragish, Damn, there's a lot of ball stars on 1168 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 4: the nets. 1169 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't like this music because it's gonna keep. 1170 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 3: Us on Simmon for way too walk. 1171 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, they got Ben Simmons. 1172 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 3: This is his night, this is his night forty. 1173 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 4: He's going for double digits tonight. 1174 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: Simmons. 1175 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Nah, could you double the minutes. 1176 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: Maybe sure, Yeah, maybe. 1177 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 3: There was a time when Joel Embiid sat out and 1178 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,800 Speaker 3: Ben Simmons would go for forty. There was that forty 1179 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 3: point game. 1180 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 1: It happened. 1181 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 5: Speaking of forty point games, Jalen Green had forty one 1182 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,720 Speaker 5: last night. Yes, that is an unknown thing. 1183 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 1: Isn't that. It's like his fourth or fifth time. 1184 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's super young guy. 1185 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get to tweet of the night. 1186 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 3: Tweet O the night. Wow twitt. 1187 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: With Twitter down yesterday, we thought it'd be a sick 1188 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 1: little trick to give. Jerome tweeted the night. But it 1189 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 1: did come back and tweets were to get back. 1190 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fine. I couldn't follow anyone. I know that's 1191 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 2: still down or it was down when I was trying 1192 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 2: last night. Oh really yeah, But for tweeting to night, 1193 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 2: I thought I'd give you guys a little bit of 1194 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 2: a break from the trade deadline. Maybe something to look 1195 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 2: forward to after three o'clock today. Courtesy of our friend 1196 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 2: William Lou will Loeu of The Raptors Show. Basketball fans, 1197 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 2: Gary Trent Junior will be shooting buckets at the KFC 1198 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 2: Court at the bent Wait this Thursday at three thirty pm. 1199 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,760 Speaker 2: This is specific to Toronto fans. It's a free event 1200 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 2: and you might even get a chance to meet the 1201 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 2: walking Bucket himself. See you there. Hashtag Buckets are life. 1202 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 2: Hashtag sponsor. 1203 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: This might be the first sponsored tweet we've never had. 1204 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: I will tell you. 1205 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 3: Time. 1206 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 2: Chick KFC, come at us. You can get full promotion 1207 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 2: on a big trade deadline podcast. 1208 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're team pop Eyes down here. 1209 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 2: I am team Popeyes actually, But I mean I think 1210 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 2: it's worth looking into because we saw Jalen Brunson react 1211 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 2: to a trade last night. Are we going to see 1212 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 2: Gary Trent Junior react to a trade at the MC court? Yeah? 1213 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 2: I mean let's take a look at the court really quickly, 1214 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 2: just to know what we're working with. He's got shots, 1215 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 2: We have shots of the court. 1216 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean that looks it's very cool. 1217 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 2: It's lit up, it's under and underpass. I think we 1218 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 2: have a few more coming here. That is not Garry 1219 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 2: shooting there. 1220 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 5: In the I mean it is the middle of winter, 1221 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 5: so that part's weird. 1222 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 3: That a weird. 1223 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 2: My background there. They offer you like thick padded jerseys 1224 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 2: to keep yourself while. 1225 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 4: Those are padded jersey. 1226 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes. 1227 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: I've seen people wearing them, and I just thought it 1228 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: was over their giant jackets. 1229 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, okay, that's awesome. 1230 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 2: And then just for those who are actually planning on attending, 1231 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 2: I think we do have a forecast. 1232 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: For Oh, that's why we're getting the forecast. 1233 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a three degrees American fans here, but 1234 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 2: light rain. But again it's under and underpass, it's covered up. 1235 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 2: You're fine for This is the Canadian summer. 1236 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 3: As far as it looks pretty warm right there. 1237 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1238 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: I like a little sauce on my chicken. Anyway, put 1239 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: a little water rain on the like wet wing, lemon pepper, 1240 00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: wet rain. 1241 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 2: Will Gary Trent Junior be a raptor at this kip. 1242 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: That said three thirty? Deadline's at three? 1243 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 4: I have this question here? 1244 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 1: What is cam know? 1245 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 3: What is the colonel? 1246 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: No? Interesting? 1247 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 4: I think Colonel Sanders follows Shums on Twitter. 1248 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 3: Colonel Sanders used to live by in near my nearby Mississauga. 1249 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 3: That's a fact, the real colonel. 1250 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:27,000 Speaker 1: Yep. 1251 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 3: Wow, what about Dave interesting? Dave Sanders? 1252 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: No, what about Dave? 1253 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 3: Colonel Dave Thomas, why do you live in Mississauga? 1254 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 4: Man? 1255 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't Conadian No, he took it, took a 1256 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 3: little hiatus from being American, lived on He lived on 1257 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 3: Melton Drive, if I'm correct, control f Melton in a. 1258 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 4: Bungalow on thirteen thirty seven Melton Drug. 1259 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: Is that really close to you? 1260 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 3: Very close? I think I rode by Colonel Sanders house. 1261 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Jeez, did it smell like chicken? 1262 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:01,920 Speaker 3: That smells so good? 1263 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 1264 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were just congregated. What does that smell? 1265 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 4: Man? 1266 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Halloween at his house was awesome? 1267 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 4: Bucket of wings eggs. 1268 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: All right, great tweet of the. 1269 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 4: Night, Joe. 1270 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: We'll find out if Gary is at that KFC court. 1271 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 3: Fascinating timing three point thirty Eastern. Let's have Gary Trent shoes. 1272 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 2: We'll need on the ground reporting because regardless, I think 1273 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 2: we're going to get reactions to whatever the raptors continue 1274 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 2: to do today. 1275 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 3: Is William Lou going to be there? 1276 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 2: William Lou? I believe it's going to be there. I 1277 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 2: can't imagine I'm paying William for all this six buckets. 1278 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: Probably this is Alex is doing this is not? 1279 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex representation definitely threw him into this. 1280 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 3: Well. 1281 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 2: Will definitely wanted to do a reaction pod, and he 1282 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 2: threw him onto a KFC bucket work. 1283 01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I heard Alex's voice a KFC spot commercial. Serious, Yes, 1284 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm imagining that as I'm checking my money, 1285 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 3: go get it, go get that chicken money. 1286 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: We're just hoping we get cat litter money. At this point. 1287 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 1: These guys are living big up there. Why do we 1288 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: ever leave Canada? We could add chicken money. You could 1289 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: have been like I lived by this by the colonel, 1290 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: I know him. 1291 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 3: I'm in talks of purchasing his home, actually his old home. 1292 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: We should turn it into the factory. 1293 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 3: I like that. It would always smell like chicken, Chicken factory. 1294 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,959 Speaker 2: I'm sent family. 1295 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, let's call it there. Guys, if 1296 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: you live in Salt Lake City, if you are adventuring 1297 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 1: there for All Star Weekend, which is next Friday, Yes, Friday, 1298 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: February seventeenth, We're doing a live show at the Urban 1299 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Lounge in Salt Lake City to get everybody all ready 1300 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: for All Star Weekend, come hang with us. Tickets are 1301 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: available in the show notes both if you're watching here 1302 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 1: on YouTube or if you're a podcast listener to click 1303 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: that link. It just up ticket Come hang out with us. 1304 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 1: There are some VIP meet and greet packages still available, 1305 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: not many, so don't don't take long if you want 1306 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: to come hang out with us an hour before the show, 1307 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: get preferred seating and all that stuff. With the VIP experience, 1308 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: we should get like a chicken, a bucket of chicken 1309 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 1: to share with our VIP. 1310 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 4: One piece of Kentucky fried chickens? 1311 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Did we put that on our rider? 1312 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 2: This is a Popeye's pod. 1313 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, You're right, Team puppies all right. 1314 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: Otherwise, guys, we will be back at some point later today. 1315 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: If we get any other big trades, we'll jump on live. 1316 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 1: So make sure you subscribe to nodunks on YouTube. Make 1317 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 1: sure you subscribe to the podcast of course, and yeah, 1318 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be back later today. If not, if nothing 1319 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: of note happens, which I think would be very shocking. 1320 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: At this point, we're here with the Drop podcast tomorrow 1321 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: morning live at ten am Eastern, so we'll see you 1322 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: when we see you. Till then, Clipper bros. 1323 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 3: You heard it here first. 1324 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys, awesome. 1325 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember, if Kevin Durant can 1326 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 3: be dealt, everyone is trainable. 1327 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: Embrace the day people,