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Speaker 1: With Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up everybody, DJ

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Speaker 1: Bucky together again in studio day before we're heading out

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Speaker 1: A lot of film work, trying to make sure we

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Speaker 1: Indie is my favorite time of the year. And it's

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Speaker 1: And look, let's not make this more complicated than it is. Buck,

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Speaker 1: game already in place. But we talked about Kurt Ferens

430
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Speaker 1: and the things that they've done for years with their

431
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: offensive line, tied end is nothing more than the extension

432
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Speaker 1: of the offensive line. So he is going to come

433
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Speaker 1: prepared and ready to be a day one starter when

434
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Speaker 1: it comes to blocking and catching the ball in the backfield.

435
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Speaker 1: I think he is safe and I think his value

436
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Speaker 1: as a top ten as a top five players certainly there.

437
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Speaker 1: And that's why I have the running back from Alabama

438
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 1: Josh Jacob's right behind him. To me, skill player wise,

439
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: those two guys help their quarterback more than any other

440
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: skill guys in the draft. And you know, if if

441
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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown doesn't have the list, frank to me, he's

442
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Speaker 1: in that discussion, but I give him a little bit

443
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Speaker 1: of a nudge down. He dropped out of my top ten,

444
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: not four. I think he's twelve or thirteen, somewhere in

445
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: that range. So um, but those are the guys I

446
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: think come in right now and they were a big

447
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 1: time asset to my quarters. They're big time asset and

448
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: we've seen what running backs have been able to do

449
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,400
Speaker 1: when it comes to elevating the play of quarterbacks. They

450
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: really alleviate the pressure. I think Drew Brees is able

451
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 1: to play comfortably in the pocket because he has number four.

452
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 1: He one Alvin Kamara, who was able to make special

453
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Speaker 1: things happen as a runner and as a receiver. And

454
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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, I think the biggest thing for me is

455
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Speaker 1: who does he compare to? Like? Who would you say

456
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: his playing style is reminiscent on Camara? I mean Camara

457
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: is going to be the natural comparison. But you know

458
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Speaker 1: who my player comp formass he works here? Who like

459
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Speaker 1: Ladinian no O, m D, m j D. That's who

460
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Speaker 1: he reminds me of. He's taller, but m j D.

461
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Speaker 1: How just that powerful, that that short area burst a

462
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Speaker 1: little bit slippery. Don't be mad at me, mg D.

463
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Speaker 1: We're talking about m j D in the middle of

464
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Speaker 1: his playing, not the md D. Did we see what

465
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Speaker 1: he was and we know how good he would? Oh

466
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Speaker 1: he was, And to me, that's what this kid reminds

467
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Speaker 1: me of. Just mj D was a little ball of

468
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: just a little dynamite, little look. And the biggest thing

469
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: with m j D was And I made this mistake

470
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: when I grated him coming out of U C l A.

471
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Speaker 1: Don't confuse height and stature. He's not small, Yeah he's not.

472
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 1: He's not a small he's power pack. Like we talked

473
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Speaker 1: about Calumary being pocket hercules mj D was really pocket Hercules.

474
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 1: He was short, but he was compact, he was think,

475
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Speaker 1: he was physical, he could run inside and outside, and

476
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: he gave you stuff. And we see the returns with

477
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Speaker 1: Jacobs as well, and the other one I wrote down

478
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Speaker 1: on my paper with Sony Michelle. He reminds me a

479
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: lot of what we saw last year. Yeah, because Sonny Michelle,

480
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Speaker 1: when you go back and think of it, like Nick

481
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: Chub was the guy who was the bell cow. Sony

482
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Speaker 1: Schell was kind of like the icing on the cake.

483
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: He was the extra stuff. They would come in and

484
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Speaker 1: you see him jump in and out and then lo

485
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: and behol he goes to England, You're like, oh, he

486
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 1: actually can carry it. He can told the mail. He

487
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: was a central figure to their running game. And so

488
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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is actually coming in at a time where

489
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: you really like it. Low knowledge, not a lot of

490
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: trade on the tire. You take him high, you grind

491
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: him into the thing, and then you discard him like

492
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Speaker 1: he is definitely talented enough to be taken within the

493
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Speaker 1: first m picks, no doubt. So that's where I have

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Speaker 1: the top ten there um. By the way, as we

495
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Speaker 1: get to this offensive preview here, in the combine. Buck.

496
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Speaker 1: I had one of those moments. Um. It was just

497
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days where look, there's the long,

498
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Speaker 1: long hours you put in getting ready for the combine.

499
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Speaker 1: Watching all this tape Beard, I was having some fun.

500
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Speaker 1: My son went to a Sadie Hawkins dance and they

501
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Speaker 1: he went as Bob Ross, the guy that does the

502
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Speaker 1: painting stuff, and then the girl was going as an

503
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Speaker 1: actual painting so that was they have the costume thing.

504
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Speaker 1: So when I saw that thing laying around, I just

505
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: slapped on that Bob Bob Ross costume and said, this

506
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: is what what's happened to me? I've just been in

507
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Speaker 1: the cave watching tape, but I have one of those moments.

508
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever have these in your life. Um,

509
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: and there's people that are just working their butts off

510
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Speaker 1: and grinding it outside dig and ditches, doing hard, hard work,

511
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: and then you kind of have those moments where you're

512
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: just like, you know, I'm gonna be just take a

513
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: second here and just go how blessing? How cool is

514
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: it that we just wet we watch football players and

515
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: talk about football players, like, go back to when we

516
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: were kids and you did ultimate, you played in the NFL.

517
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: But if I went back to ten year old Bucky

518
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: Brooks and said, this is your job. You're gonna watch

519
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: and talk about players, how great is that? It is great?

520
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: As my mom and dad would say, you like, if

521
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: you cut my little head open, little footballs will come

522
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: bouncing all about. Because everything that I've been fascinated when

523
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Speaker 1: and been passionate about since I was seven or eight

524
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: has been football. So to be around it, uh to

525
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: talk about it, to study it, to basically spend the

526
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Speaker 1: day watching tape each and every day. It doesn't get

527
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Speaker 1: much better than that. And I think in this process,

528
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Speaker 1: the evaluation part of it, I love so much about it,

529
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Speaker 1: Like I love looking at the players and projecting what

530
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Speaker 1: they could be. I do believe Scott scouting at the

531
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Speaker 1: collegiate level is harder than being a pro scout just

532
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,239
Speaker 1: because it's it's apples and oranges. You can look at

533
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Speaker 1: the box score and scout pro players. Yeah, but but

534
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: but this is it requires a little more um its

535
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: nuanced imagination and thinking about what they could be, where

536
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: they could go, what teams could really enhance them and

537
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: elevate them. And then you see how teams are playing

538
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: in College and I read something I think Albert Brier

539
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: puts something out on the MMQB talking about Lincoln Riley

540
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: and why more teams NFL teams are adobed in some

541
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Speaker 1: collegiate concepts because of the time crunch that you have

542
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Speaker 1: in terms of developing these players. And you see it.

543
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Speaker 1: And the more I look at College State, the more

544
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'll see that. I see that from

545
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Speaker 1: the Patriots, So I've seen that from the Rams. I've

546
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: seen this from a variety of teams. Matt Naggie and

547
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Speaker 1: the Bears do this. Kansas City, Oh, they did make

548
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Speaker 1: I wonder if they got this from them. There's a

549
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Speaker 1: lot of synergy and the mash up between the way

550
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: schemes are kind of being derived and executed at both levels.

551
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Speaker 1: And I think this is the perfect time as a

552
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: young player to jump into the league because now more

553
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: than ever, coaches are actually willing to try and fit

554
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: things around what you do well as opposed to this

555
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: is my system. You need to or you won't be here,

556
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 1: no no doubt. It makes it makes the whole process fun. Um.

557
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do a little quick preview here.

558
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: Two questions on each position, here buck player looking forward

559
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: to watch the most, and who has the most at stake.

560
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: We'll start at the quarterback position and let's go outside

561
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: the big two. We've talked about the big we talked

562
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: about them a lot. Let's go find another quarterback and

563
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: that makes you looking forward to watch, well, I'm really

564
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Speaker 1: looking forward to watching Daniel Jones. And the reason why

565
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching Daniel Jones is because I

566
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Speaker 1: think it started out with Daniel Jones was hi. Daniel

567
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Speaker 1: Jones was kind of considered a guy that could be

568
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Speaker 1: in a conversation at the top ten. Then we say

569
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Speaker 1: him aout the Senior Bowl and you're kind of like,

570
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Speaker 1: I don't know. He wins the m v P of

571
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Speaker 1: the game, but now you're still uncertain. Is he really

572
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Speaker 1: one of those elite to your one prospects at quarterback

573
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Speaker 1: or is he a guy that is going to be

574
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Speaker 1: as someone said Alex Smith, l Ryan Tannehill light, where

575
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: has athleticism good not great? If you put him in

576
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: the right situation where the right people, can he thrive.

577
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: I kind of want to get a chance to get

578
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Speaker 1: up under the hood and kind of see what he

579
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: does in a pressurise environment. How does he perform, because

580
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: I think that is speak volumes about what he could

581
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: be at the next level, no doubt. Uh, he's somebody

582
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: that is going to test well by the way I

583
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: expect him. He's probably gonna run the four sevens low

584
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: four seven bus, He's gonna jump well, he's gonna do

585
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: all that stuff. That Again, I keep coming back to

586
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: the same point with him. Look, you don't have to

587
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Speaker 1: have a rocket arm and be successful in the NFL.

588
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: You don't have a ginormous arm. But I just want

589
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: to see a little bit more pop, a little more zip,

590
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: and uh we'll see who get the opportunity there in

591
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: perfect conditions inside in the dome. Uh, see him spin

592
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Speaker 1: it and see what looks like stacked up with some

593
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: of these other guys. So, uh, that's a good one.

594
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, you know, I want to I want

595
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Speaker 1: to go Ryan Finley because I'm gonna cheat him me.

596
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: You know who I when I was watching Finley, the

597
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: name that came to mind you talked about, Uh, would

598
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: you say, who are you saying? That? Was like Daniel

599
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: Jones was like a Tannehill light, Ryan Tannehill. When I

600
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Speaker 1: went till like when I watched Finley and look at

601
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Speaker 1: his six four two oh eight thin frame. I'm like,

602
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: he's kind of he's kind of like a Jared Goff light.

603
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: That's kind of who he reminds me of. And golf

604
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: is a rhythm quarterback in rhythm on time. I love

605
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: dar visit we had with Ryan Finley at the Senior Bowl,

606
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: so he's intriguing for me. The other one is is Minshew. Um.

607
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: We talked about, you know, being light, this, that or

608
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: the other when I watched Gardner. Manshew to me, he's

609
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: like the ultimate point guard and he makes caffeine nervous.

610
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: He is so jittery and spunky back there in the pocket,

611
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: I was looking for comps and I'm like, you know,

612
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: this guy reminds me when Scott Skiles was playing, not

613
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: Scott Skiles a coach. When Scott Skiles was playing, that's

614
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: who he reminds him of. He was like a little

615
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: energy man. He's fun to watch. He has fun to watch.

616
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: He has the energy bust. They do a great job. Look, man,

617
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: this guy kind of came out of nowhere to be

618
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: a legitimate prospect. Goes to Washington State, lights it up.

619
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Speaker 1: They win a ton of games, um nationally ranked and

620
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is because of his ability

621
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: to be really what I call a past first point guard.

622
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: He's a poor man's Mayfield too. Let's another one, just

623
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: frenetick ball, ball comes out, does all the other stuff,

624
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: and then we saw like he he has a way

625
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: about him. Guys like playing with him, and so there's

626
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: something that is intriguing and fascinating about him. Let's just

627
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: move on to running backs. Who are you looking forward to? Buck? Okay,

628
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: there's a name that I haven't talked about yet, but

629
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: at running back, I want everyone to keep their eyes

630
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: on Trayvon Williams from Texas and m UH. In this process,

631
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times we kind of get hung up

632
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: in the top five the top six, and sometimes guys

633
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: can slide through the cracks. I think we need to

634
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: pay attention to Williams because Williams came on like game

635
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: busses at the end of the year of Texas A

636
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: and m super productive, runs hard, has a physicality and

637
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: toughness that you like. And you know because you obviously

638
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: um have gone down there and talked to Jimbo Fishing

639
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: those guys. Jimbo Fisher was trying to establish a level

640
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: of toughness with the team. And whenever the game got

641
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: kind of harrier, out of sorts, who did he give

642
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: the ball to? He give the Trayvon Williams. I think

643
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: that to me as an evaluate, I'm like, at the

644
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: end of the day, when it gets tough, they hand

645
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: the ball to Williams. I think he's going to be

646
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: a guy that we talked about coming out of the combine,

647
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: and I don't even know how he's going to test.

648
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna be be interesting to see. I did not

649
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: see that elite top end speed up that quicker than fast.

650
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: The forty be big for him, and people say over

651
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: eight the forty times that it'll be interesting to see

652
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: how much user just want to know. Um, the other

653
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: small backs I'm looking forward to. We've got some interesting

654
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: big backs with you know, we talked about Jacobs is

655
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: two hundred sixteen pounds, David Montgomery same size, you know,

656
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: Roddney Anderson unfortunately is injured, but he's a fantastic player. Um,

657
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: But some of the two hundred pounders I'm looking forward

658
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: to watching. Darrell Henderson has got some serious juice from Memphis.

659
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: He can fly. Watching him comparing him Like to me,

660
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: I have him and Justice Hill. I want to see

661
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: those guys side by side. Who has more juice? Who

662
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: has more pop? Uh? They're both fun players to study.

663
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: Justice Hill from Oklahoma State. So who's gonna merge as

664
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: the winner of the small backs? Devin Singletary is the

665
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: top of that list for me right now from f

666
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: a u um. He's a two hundred pounders, So you

667
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: gotta differentiate yourself. You made two hundred pound back. We

668
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: saw Philip Lindsay being undersized last year. He had some

669
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: juice and he ran the four threes. He did wasn't

670
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: at the Commas. It was prody. It wasn't even invited

671
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: the Combedine. But you want to see some bursting, some

672
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: juice from a smaller back, Yeah, you do. You want

673
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: to see some of that. Like it's funny man you

674
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: brought up that comparison with Philip Lindsay because I do

675
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: see some of that in singletaries games. Singletary has some

676
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: of that pitter pad like he can kind of get

677
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: in and get out of holes. He's kind of like

678
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: the mouse going through the maze. He can kind of

679
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: find his way out of the back dooring did a

680
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: great job of it for f A u um Man.

681
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: This this running back class is interesting because you're gonna

682
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: see what we talked about and I heard, you know,

683
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: your interview with Bruce Film and you talked about the

684
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay bump. Philip Lindsay is going to impact how

685
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: teams evaluate these guys, especially when we get to day three,

686
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: because in day on Day three, when most of us

687
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: would be like, ah, we'll get a guy and free agency,

688
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: I think you'll see more running backs kind of flow

689
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: off the board six and seventh rounds because they don't

690
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: want to go and be like, where did Philip Lindsay coming?

691
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Try and get your guy? Kind of target a couple

692
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: of guys that you think may have an opportunity to

693
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: make the league as a value price um prospect, and

694
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: so Lindsay will have an impact on on these guys.

695
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: But he also have an impact on some of the

696
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: two hundred pound running backs because he has so much

697
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: success as a rookie. Absolutely, um anybody else we got there, Buck,

698
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean I could go through a long This is

699
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: a fun group of running backs. Alijah holy Field, what

700
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: he runs will be big. Great note on him was

701
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: talking to somebody that went through there that said, uh,

702
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, what's the background? Like he said, the coaches

703
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: love him, he said, in fact, you go out they

704
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: talked about just how tough he was and they said

705
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: it we go out to practice. I want if you

706
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: didn't know who he was, and I told you that

707
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: the former heavyweight champion of the world has a son

708
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: on the team. He said, you figure out who it was.

709
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: And about thirty seconds like, okay, all right, I'm in toughness,

710
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: like you know in in in this business. When we're

711
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: doing the background and we're digging in, you're trying to

712
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: find the reasons. As we talked about red star players. Yeah,

713
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: guys who are going to make it. There's something about

714
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: it just in the table, like I don't know what,

715
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: but I know this guy is going to make it.

716
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: Holy feels background, the toughness that he has. There's always

717
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: a place in the league for tough players, tough minded,

718
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: physical players. To find a way. He can give you

719
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: stuff on special teams, you can create roles for those guys.

720
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: He is one of those guys that have fall into

721
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: those categories. And you mentioned kind of our kind of guy.

722
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: So we look at the university of Washington. That's Chris

723
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Peterson's think. Looking for o kgs our kind of guy.

724
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: They fit us. Care what the stars ratings are whatever,

725
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: he's our kind of guy. So when we had red

726
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Stars when I was in Baltimore, what you were mentioning?

727
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: So for this draft, Buck is kind of a fun

728
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: process and this can't let's let's get this on the

729
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: docket for a pod maybe after the combine as we

730
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: lead up to the draft, to be a fun discussion. Um,

731
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: but I wrote down m kgs. We're not with teams anymore, right,

732
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: so just my kind of guy. I kind of got mkg's.

733
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: So I went through each position and I kind of

734
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: highlighted a couple of guys, maybe three or four guys

735
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: in each position. Some of them are high end guys,

736
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: other ones are six seventh round guys. But just I

737
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: want to kind of to just notate it'll be fun

738
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: to look back on in years from now, and just

739
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: said these guys I would like to have. I would

740
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: like to be in an organization and bring these types

741
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: of players in. So I went to and highlight at

742
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: some of those guys A long the way, that's a

743
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: fun podcast we should do. Brian Kelly calls him our KGS.

744
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: Right kind of guys man. By the way, I love Buck.

745
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: He's picked about Treyvon Williams. I think he I think

746
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: he might be the best running back in this draft

747
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: or close to it. He's really good, interesting, can't go big.

748
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: I want to see how much. I want to see

749
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: how much juice he's got. I'll revisit this after the

750
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: combine here. All right, let's let's move on next position here, Buck,

751
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: let's go wide receivers, Man, wide receivers. This is a

752
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: really really interesting group. Um. I think the guy that

753
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm most interested in seeing is Riley Ridley from Georgia

754
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: and the reason please run fast enough, Just please run fast.

755
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: And I think he's a really good play And if

756
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 1: I had to come to me, I would compare him

757
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: to can't Guard Mike that's on Twitter the same thing.

758
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: I think he is a big slot receiver, a guy

759
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: who is going to get open over the middle of field.

760
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: He's tough enough to dig in and block and do

761
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: those things, but strong hands cast the ball over the middle.

762
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: And because it's the family business, I think he's just

763
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: gonna have a level of professionalism that is going to

764
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: allow him to be a guy that contributes, to make

765
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: significant contributions very early in his career. I love that,

766
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: and I think he's the best route runner in the draft.

767
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: He's my thirty overall players, somewhere in that mix. He's

768
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: my third receiver behind Market and DK Metcalf. I just

769
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: isn't one of those deals you've we've been there. You

770
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: give guy a good grade like this, and you get

771
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: to the combine and come on, don't come on seventh,

772
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: Please don't run four seven. But don't worry about it.

773
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: If he's in my area and I got a good

774
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: grade on, do watch me a little bit quicker. I

775
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: can take care of it. Yeah, clean that up at

776
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: the pro Hey yeah, yeah, hey, you know what. He

777
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: was nervous, but he just let it rip. Yeah. That's

778
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: funny because I talked to a scout for another team said, yeah,

779
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm the same exact time was the combine. Now he

780
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: was off coach, he when he had been drinking the

781
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: night before. That's fine, uh to me. The couple receivers

782
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: that I've got again, I I go to the combine

783
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: and I have I look at Clump's buck of guys

784
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: that have same grade on and who's going to separate

785
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: themselves from the bunch. So if you're looking for a

786
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: speed guy, now different a little bit different size here

787
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: between Paris Campbell from Ohio State listen at six eight

788
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: and Miko Hardman from Georgia who's listening three, So consignificantly

789
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: heavier there for for Campbell. Keep this number in mind.

790
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: Last year four hundred and twenty one wide receiver carries

791
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: the most in modern history. And that's on fly sweeps, right,

792
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: that's not even counting the shovels from the gun, which

793
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: counts passes. Total wide receiver carries in the league. You

794
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: know what, the average per per carry six point four yards.

795
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: That ain't going anywhere those fly sweeps and uh jet sweeps.

796
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: That's gonna continue to six six point four yards per

797
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: carry for wide receivers. So if you're an NFL team

798
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: you're trying to find that guy who can be my

799
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: fly sweep, my bubble screen guy like you would in

800
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: the college game, you're gonna find that guy for you

801
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. The Rams made a living off

802
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: this with all those guys. We saw Robert Woods take

803
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: those Cooper Cup all those guys um so to me

804
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: being able to run at the football now. Is that's

805
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: that's valuable there for these wide receivers. Both these guys

806
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: you put in the ball, they're they're gone. I mean,

807
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: they have big time juice. Parris Gamble, you can watch

808
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: him against Michigan take one of those things the house

809
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: on a little speech shovel um. So those two guys,

810
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna fly and I might to see how they

811
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: catch the ball, both of them. There's a little bit

812
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: of concern that with some of the natural hands, um.

813
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: So we'll keep an eye on that with those two guys.

814
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell, who's the only thing guy I was writing

815
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell and Nicole Hardman from George who's got John

816
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: Brown type juice? Um Instant death is one of the

817
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: things I wrote down in my in my notes. And

818
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: he's an outstanding kickoff returner who has some toughness to

819
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: go along with his speech. You're doing a research to

820
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: four interests that is that's fascinating. Well, he be the

821
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: fastest player at the combine. Andy Isabella might have something

822
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: to say about that big time track speed. Is he is?

823
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: He is? He is? He? Yeah, I gotta write something.

824
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: Thanks for reminding me. I gotta write something about the

825
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: who could you know? Who's gonna run the fastest forty article? Everyone?

826
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Everyone loves that. Everyone wants to know to track me

827
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: into that. Alright, Anyways, there's some receivers. What are you

828
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: looking at their bucks? We already we already covered the receivers.

829
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: Where we're going next? Oh, we gotta go tight ends?

830
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: Who you got? Man? This? This man is so so,

831
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: so much one. I'm gonna say this about it. Tight

832
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: and Click I think is the best tighten class, the

833
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: depth that we've seen in a long time. I'm gonna

834
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: talk about the kid from Georgia, Isaac Nada, and the

835
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: reason I'm gonna talk about him is up. Look, there's

836
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: so many mouths to feed at Georgia dead. I feel

837
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: like he was underutilized. But I think this is a

838
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: guy that has some of that Jason Witten stuff in

839
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: his game in terms of his ability to get open.

840
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how fast he's gonna running all the

841
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: other stuff, but he is an underutilized asset. When we

842
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: talk about George Kittle and some of those other guys

843
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: that have emerged as difference makers at the tight end position,

844
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: I believe Nada has that potential. It's really a matter

845
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: of where he goes and the way teams are using

846
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: the tight end. It's kind of a u H back

847
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: where he's displaced and doing some of those things. I

848
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: think you want to use him as a move guy.

849
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna create some problems on the perimeter. Yeah,

850
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: I know he's a good player. You watch him really

851
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: peeking at the end of the year against Alabama beat

852
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson for a long touchdown. Um, he's got good

853
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: speed working in the seam only my you know, if

854
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: you're looking for a question of cradle catching when I

855
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: watch him, so sometimes just wonder how natural to hand,

856
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, I go back. I love these guys. I'm

857
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: known like he was a guy that I'm known and

858
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: I watched and he's coming out early and because of

859
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: the intel and just watching him when it grow from

860
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: being a high school or too whatever. There's a lot

861
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: of meat on the bone, a lot of untapped stuff

862
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: that people didn't necessarily use a Georgia. There are too

863
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: many miles defeated Georgia Buck the guys. I think we're

864
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: going to be impressed with his route running ability when

865
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: we get him on the turf in the India. Yeah,

866
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: that'll be fun to me. We'll go with the UH

867
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: pairing guys up again. Just from a testing standpoint when

868
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching No. A Fan from Iowa. Uh.

869
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: We talked about t J. Hockenson at the top. No.

870
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: A Fan is gonna gonna he's gonna blow it out.

871
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna run jump, He's gonna be big time UH tester.

872
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: And the other one is Dawson Knox from Old miss

873
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: who's gonna be closer to two sixty pounds and there's

874
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: some thought he might even he might even go under

875
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: four five. So he's gonna be a fun one to watch,

876
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: not a ton of production, and they'll throw him a

877
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: lot of balls there. You can see the big too many,

878
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: I was your feed. There's too many guys. All these

879
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: SEC teams have so many guys on the perimeter that

880
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: they're trying to kind of feed and feature. It's tough.

881
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: And the other one is UH, give you one more

882
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: bonus here Collie Wearing from San Diego State. He's going

883
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: to test well, big time athlete. Um Man. I felt

884
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: it feel bad for him when you watch him because

885
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback play at San Diego State was not great.

886
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: I want to throw anybody on the bus there. But

887
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: he's open a lot in the ball doesn't get there,

888
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: so he'll be one. He'll be one. Keep an eye

889
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: on there at the tight end position, doesn't doesn't quite

890
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: get there. They're running team though. They run the heck

891
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: out of it there at San Diego State Stanford South.

892
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: Even though I think they beat Stanford. They no, they

893
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: didn't beat him this year. They bet him last year.

894
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: All right, let's just come by an offensive line here,

895
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, giving me an offensive lineman or two that

896
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: you look forward to watch him Florida right tackle? Do

897
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: you want to he's not gonna work out. I know

898
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: he's not gonna work out, but I just want to

899
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: see him. I just want to see him up close.

900
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: I know the hamstring issue is gonna keep him out,

901
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: but it's a guy to that and talked about. And

902
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: after watching tape on him, I'm like, man, this guy's

903
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: playing right tackle. He is much better than the guy

904
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: on the left close. That's actually the top fifteen pick

905
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: in a six seventh right And so I'm sitting there wondering, like,

906
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: if you're in Florida and every day, you're a spring practice,

907
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: you're far practice, and you're looking like man, all right,

908
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Deck is really good. Bit like CHUMDOGA is by far

909
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: their best tackle. He was playing on the right side. Yeah,

910
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: but I wanted to get his name out there because

911
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: he's a guy that I think we need to monitor

912
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: beyond the combine. I know we're talking about the hamstring

913
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: issue and how to keep him out, but in terms

914
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: of his ability at the pro day, I think he's

915
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: going to Daubs. And we know the one thing about

916
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: the offensive line, the mushroom society those coaches get together,

917
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: heard of a feather, it's a it's a think tank.

918
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: I think his name will be the one that is

919
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: buzzing when we begin to talk about players on path

920
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: to the draft and the like. So that's why I

921
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: wanted to his name out there. He's my eleventh overall

922
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: player right now. I think he's got a really good

923
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: shot of going in the top ten. I have Andre

924
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: Dillard one spot ahead of him to tackle from Washington State.

925
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: Those my my top two guys. There a couple other

926
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: guys to keep an eye on. Caleb McGarry. It's gonna

927
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: be big for him from Washington six o six seven pounds.

928
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: But he's athletic man. He's athletic, he can move, he's quick.

929
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: He's had some health stuff. I believe it's heart stuff,

930
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to get through the medical process.

931
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: Would be big for him. But when I looked at

932
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: kind of upside, what could this guy be at his best,

933
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: there's some subtle reminders of Andrew Whitworth when he was

934
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: coming out of L s U. I see the same

935
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: type of a frame, the same time, type of demeanor,

936
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: and Worth just got better and better and better throughout

937
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: his NFL career. That's what you're hoping there for McGary.

938
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: So he's one that I'll definitely be keeping an eye

939
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: on um at the tackle position. And then if I

940
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: was gonna go inside and just give you one on

941
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: the interior there. Uh, it's a guy we both love

942
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: and that's Bradberry from NC State him. He's another one

943
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: he talked about doubles Buck. There's any doubt, any hesitation

944
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: in the desk the guy that I'm taking regressive whatether

945
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: I never need for or not, because I know he's

946
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna play, He's gonna play for a long time, is

947
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: gonna be successful and he's wired the right way. Heard

948
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: him talk on an interview over the weekend. He talked

949
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: about how he knew to play at the next level,

950
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: he had to make sure that his practice happens were better.

951
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: So the last two years he really concentrating on bringing

952
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: and a level effort to practice. And so when you

953
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: hear that from a young guy, like the maturity, the professionalism,

954
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: and then when you marry that with what we were

955
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: able to watch at the Senior Bowl, he's a pro.

956
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: He is the kind of guy that he's going to

957
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: play for a long time. He's gonna be the captain

958
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: of your your offensive line, he's gonna handle all other

959
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: communications stuff, and he can play. And so you kind

960
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: of like when you can check off all of those

961
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: boxes in terms of leadership, character and all that, and

962
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: they have skills when it comes to being able to

963
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: perform on the field. Absolutely, it's gonna be fun to

964
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: watch all of these players work out in Indianapolis. Again.

965
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: You can find our combine coverage NFL Network, NFL dot Com.

966
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: We'll have it every single day. Workout to start Friday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,

967
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have shows their path to draft

968
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: kicking off during the week. Yea path to the draft Wednesday?

969
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: When Wednesday Thursday, Like, we're gonna be taking care of that.

970
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: You'll be manning the coverage, be up in the bird

971
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: the birds. I would would Rich doing it. Are you

972
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: do you have to now time? Rich? Are you doing that?

973
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: Run Rich run? Bottle? Watch? I had to go by.

974
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: I haven't had to buy a watch. I've been going

975
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: to pro days lately, so I had to go buy

976
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: a watch. I don't know, I don't watch. And you

977
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: need to have a pin stripe suit because may I

978
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: always had a pen of stripe suit on the I

979
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: don't think Mac owns anything of that, So I think

980
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to put on the pin stripe suit.

981
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: You have to put in the pen and stripe suit.

982
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: I think that's the only reason he took the raider's job,

983
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: by the way, because that's the only suit that he yawns.

984
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: It's a black pin stripes. You have to do that.

985
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: So it'd be cool to see you have been in

986
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: the purst and seed and Roser uh doing things on

987
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: the second level kind of giving breaks. I'll be manning

988
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: the post game coverage me Lance Money, I think, uh,

989
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: Colleen is also she's doing social stuff there. We're talking

990
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: about all that. And then for um the podcast, I

991
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: will be running around conducting all kinds of interviews with

992
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: the players when they're done. So that should be fun

993
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: and well, some GM interviews. But I get I get

994
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: the GM interviews. So I saw the list, I saw

995
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: the guys that would get a chance to talk to.

996
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: I get she has to talk to San Diego's finest

997
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: tom Oh oh nice, big Lynch. Nice. We'll get a

998
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: chance to chop it up and kind of do some

999
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: of those things. And so I'm excited about all of that. Oh,

1000
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. Man, busy? All right? Is there

1001
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: anything else? Can't before we get out of here? We

1002
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: have one more podcast this week. We're gonna do a

1003
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: defensive preview Wednesday night. It will be out midnight Eastern

1004
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: time on Thursday, and that will be our other podcast

1005
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: this week, Remove the Sticks. So outside of that, just

1006
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: as as Bucky said, a lot of GM interviews, player interviews, reactions,

1007
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: and it all gets started here soon enough. I can't wait.

1008
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun. All right, that's

1009
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: gonna do it for us today. Anything else you want

1010
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: to add buck, she's not not much. Oh, I gotta

1011
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: sound to do a mock draft. I got a mock

1012
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: drafted ago. You got one coming up. I gotta whip out. Um.

1013
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: I guess I gotta do it tonight tomorrow. I don't know.

1014
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: I might take your fifty and just kind of sprinkle

1015
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the sprinkle them in there. Man, I think I have

1016
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: to do one right after the combine. You like doing

1017
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: this stuff though, you like doing it, you like creating.

1018
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: I got it. I got a fun idea for us

1019
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: though for a pot oh uh, mock. You know we

1020
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: always do that kind of one, different kind of a pod. Yeah,

1021
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: So I was thinking about this workshopping it. We'll see.

1022
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: Maybe people are listening to give us a better idea.

1023
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: But what about if you had offense, I had defense,

1024
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: and you could only take an offense or defensive players.

1025
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: Let me just go everywhe other one where it forces

1026
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: those teams to take one side or the other. I'm

1027
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: okay with that kind of fun. Yeah. Then next thing,

1028
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, you come up with a kicker only drafting.

1029
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: We're just we're getting the thumbs up from behind the

1030
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: glass back there, thumbs up anytime, anytime we can put

1031
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: mock draft in something and we can hit and that

1032
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: will anger. There will be so many fan bases that say,

1033
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: we need a quarterback, but why do we take a

1034
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and they will totally miss They'll miss it,

1035
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: which you'll make it even more fun. Um. All right,

1036
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: let's get out of here. I look forward to uh

1037
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: catching up with you guys from Indianapolis. We will preview

1038
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. I guess the bigger

1039
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: question is are we on his open table invite at

1040
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: ruts Crest? Zero chance? Bucky's a table for one kind

1041
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: of guy, kind of a solo artist. Yeah, he's going.

1042
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: I kind of go to the bar and just kind

1043
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: of post up, but no match match. Like, I'm just

1044
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what. I can't remember what all

1045
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: I did. Let's see my reservations because I made them

1046
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: all while I was doing radio. I think I have three. Okay,

1047
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: here we go, one two three. Ruth Chris is on.

1048
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean you can find me on Tuesday, Friday and Monday.

1049
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: Then I did Mesh, which is a place ocean. There

1050
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: was one of my spots. There is a good spot

1051
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: salt on Masks, which is new for me. What is that.

1052
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I never tried that. And then there's

1053
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: a Mexican place called Nada in the middle of Indianapolis,

1054
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: which Mexican food. Indianapolis. I've been there before. What are

1055
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: you doing? I watched the game there. It is what

1056
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: it is. Come on, hey, look how the feel? But

1057
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: look I got all prime time time seven o'clock, all

1058
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: acroos across the board. It's good, good spine. I like

1059
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: ocean there riding high to its heart is Tar Hills

1060
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: beat Duke last week. Everyone, that's not it's not a

1061
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: big game for us, like just another game. We're all

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Speaker 1: to the next one. Beating number one. About that, it's

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Speaker 1: not that, you know, it's not. It's not a big deal,

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Speaker 1: like we expect to do that. Those are things we

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Speaker 1: expect to do team team, team over individual players. That's

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Speaker 1: all we do. We just we just clogged win as

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Speaker 1: we're trying to get ready. It's only nine game. Nine

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Speaker 1: games only matter the a CEC tournament in a nasal

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Speaker 1: mp that's the only thing we play for. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: play for that. My fandom, oh man, it's Posiers and

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Speaker 1: the Hoosiers. They're terrible. It's it's like Uh, normally it's

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Speaker 1: it's games and I'm out. I was out so early.

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Speaker 1: I haven't paid attention to the They lose every game.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been a good year. Terrible camp. Counselors of

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Speaker 1: the Drill for skill Camp when it was John Miller

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Speaker 1: and his two sons, Archie and Sean and those guys,

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Speaker 1: we could use you out there in some mean while.

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Speaker 1: Tom Crean is down in Georgia. Yeah, it's one conference win. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's trying to see. It's gonna take a little time

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Speaker 1: to take at time. They got a big prospect though,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, I got to go. I

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Speaker 1: gotta get out of here and go check out and

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Speaker 1: see what Harper's doing. Seeing he's coming to the pots

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Speaker 1: or not. It doesn't look good. All right, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us. We'll catch you next time. Right here,

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Speaker 1: I'll move the Sticks. Thanks for listening, Thanks for downloading

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