1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders Camp Chanfer comes up 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: and just on load getting you ready for Seahawks football 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Every Sunday. Russell has time fires down God he isn't 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: touchdown short. Powered by Seahawks dot Com. Welcome to this 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: week's edition of the Seahawks Insider Podcast. Jen Muller, Seahawks 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: sideline reporter, alongside John Boyle from Seahawks dot Com And 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: I guess we've officially reached the halfway point in the 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: season and with our podcast and John, what does that 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: mean that we know about this team? Well, we know 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: that they're not playing their best football right now, but 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: they're still five two on one is not a bad 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: place to be. That would currently be the number two seed. 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: It would give them a two game lead in their division. 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: So um, you know, there's a lot of things they 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: want to clean up, especially on the offensive side of 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: the ball, But we know Pete Carroll's teams tend to 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: get better in the second half seasons. We're started that 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: point where they liked to make their turn. So is 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is saying yesterday it's not a bad place 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: to be and they're looking forward to getting better and 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: if you take a look at their record in the NFC, 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: that's really what is important right now in controlling kind 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: of your own destiny in the NFC. I guess it is, 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: although I think tiebreakers are less important this year because 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: you have a tie on the record, so odds of 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: finishing tied with somebody else in the standings aren't great. 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: But we'll see and you get to be one of 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: the four teams that has a tie on your record 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: at least at this point. Maybe this is the year 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: of the tie and there'll be a bunch more. Wouldn't 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: that be exciting? It would be better than being the 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: year of complaining about officials, which seems to be a 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: league wide challenge. So I would go for something else 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: along those lines. Sure, we don't need more of that. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: We don't need more controversy. We need to find the 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: silver linings and things. Here's another record that we like 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: to talk about. The Seahawks are sixteen three and one 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: in primetime games under Pete Carroll, and they are outscoring 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: opponents four hundred and eighty six to two hundred sixty 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: four in those games. But I don't know if you 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: can go by these records when you're playing a Patriots 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: team on the road. Yeah, I don't have the numbers 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: in front of me, but I would imagine the Patriots 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: are pretty good in prime time because they've been pretty 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: good period for a very long time. And yeah, they're 46 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: at home, They're coming off the bye. This is a 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: tough one. I mean, there's no way around it. That 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: is a very good team. You can make a strong 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: case the best team in the NFL right now, and 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: they're going to be well rested and have a great 51 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: crowd on a Sunday night. Tom Brady is seventeen and 52 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: nine in twenty six games played on Sunday night football. 53 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: That tells you the level of success that the Patriots 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: have had in the number of times that they have 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: been featured in the course of his career. And he 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: is still on fire. And I think John, we would 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: all feel very differently about this game if the Seahawk 58 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Hawks looked more like the Seahawks teams we've seen in 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: the past. Right. Yeah, It's it's been a strange season 60 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, this is a team since you 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: go back, it was the middle of the twenty eleventh 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: season where they said we're going to commit to the run. 63 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: We gotta do this. Marshawn Lynch got going, finished that 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: season strong, and then Russell Wilson came in and they've 65 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: just been this great balanced running team and that just 66 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: hasn't been there. It's not they don't want to do it. 67 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: They haven't given up on it, but whether it's been 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: situations or these games recently where they just haven't been 69 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: able to run a lot of plays, and then when 70 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: they have, it hasn't been very successful. And then you 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: combine that with the passing game has the potentially really good. 72 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: We saw that against Buffalo. You're not going to be 73 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: stubborn and just pound the ball forever if you're not 74 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: getting yards when you know you have a great quarterback 75 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: and some great targets to throw it too. When you 76 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: talk about Marshawn Lynch, I think a lot of us 77 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: go to the productivity that he had really during the 78 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: middle of his career in Seattle before the injury started 79 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: piling up. I don't think that most of us remember 80 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: what that first year with Marshawn Lynch was like. Yeah, 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: he did not come in and find instant success. No, 82 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: his first everyone remembers the Beast quake and that was 83 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: that year, But other than that game, he didn't have 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: a hundred yard game till the middle of that twenty 85 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: eleventh season. And so I guess what I'm looking for 86 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: here is the point of comparison the challenges that we're 87 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: seeing in the run game right now. Is it similar 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: to when Marshawn was just trying to find his way 89 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: and there's just a little bit of a fit and 90 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: a feel or is it a totally different set of 91 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: problems and it sounds like every week it's something different. 92 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: It's almost like playing whackable, right, you can't quite figure 93 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: out how to stop it. Yeah, I think it's been 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: a little bit everything that was a little different because 95 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: I think that was more philosophical. They were still kind 96 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: of finding themselves back then. If you go back and 97 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: remember the Tavars Jackson you're in twenty eleven, they were 98 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: doing lost, you know, high tempo, spread it out, They're 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: throwing a lot then, just because that was what they 100 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: could kind of get to work. And then they just said, 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: you know what, no more this, We're going to run 102 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: it this year. I think it's just it's been a 103 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: weird year. I Mean there's been these games where they 104 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: have fourteen, fifteen, nineteen plays in the first half, and 105 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: if you have a couple three and outs and then 106 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: you have a false starter or hold in this first 107 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: and twenty, you're not going to run that time. So 108 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you've gone a quarter and a 109 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: half and you run the ball twice. And it's not 110 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: by design, it's just sort of been a situational And 111 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: then when they've tried, you know, Tom Cable said this 112 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: week that you know, they have like ten runs with 113 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: running backs and only seven of them or only three 114 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: seven of ten were not targeted right, And that's not 115 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: just the line, it's sometimes the line. Sometimes he mentioned 116 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: one play there's everything was at night except one tight 117 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: end missed his assignment and boom, the play is dead 118 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: or the running backs not hitting it. So it's just 119 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: getting everybody. And I think some of that goes back 120 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: to you always hear about rhythm in the running game, 121 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: and if you're not getting enough chances at it, it's 122 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: hard to find that rhythm. So it's been tough. Well, 123 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: and what do you make of the bluntness of those 124 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: comments by Cable today and even going back to last 125 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: week where he said, look, we have got to go 126 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: at one hundred miles an hour. This is not at ninety. 127 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: This is at one hundred, and I need the tempo 128 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: to be on points. Yeah, I mean Tom Cable has 129 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: never been one to sugarcoat things. He's a pretty blunt, 130 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, shoot straight, straight shooter, and I just think 131 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: he's probably, you know, the ground game is his thing. 132 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: He takes a lot of pride in that. You know, 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: go back to his days's assistant in Atlanta when they 134 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: led the league in Russia. He's he's always had teams 135 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: that can run the ball. So I'm sure there's a 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: little frustrating for him. Well, and I think that there's 137 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: a lot of consternation because without a running game, you know, 138 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: you see it late in games just because you can 139 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: score points. The Seahawks were also scoring very quickly. They 140 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: had at least three drives that didn't take two minutes, 141 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: which is great if you're in a two minute situation, 142 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: not great if you're in the third quarter or fourth 143 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: quarter and need to milk time off the clock. And 144 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: so I think a lot of people are trying to 145 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: look ahead and see what their chances are to keep going. 146 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: They don't want their season to end in December. They'd 147 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: really like that to end in February. Yeah, and so 148 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: how reasonable or feasible is it you keep going at 149 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: this pace and still be a playoff contender. I mean, 150 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: I think they're good enough. I think the passing game 151 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: has enough upside and their defense is good enough that 152 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: you can't write them off. As you know, they have 153 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: no chance if they can't run the ball. I think 154 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: they could compensate enough ways to be a legitimate contender. 155 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: That being said, their chances are a lot better if 156 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: they get that balance back that they like. And when 157 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: we saw it in the fourth quarter, they get the 158 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: ball with four minutes. So if Darryl Bevel mentioned this yesterday, 159 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: he was frustrating that they really wanted to finish. They 160 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: love that four minute get the ball and you're taking 161 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: a knee at the end of the game, and they 162 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. I still think there's reasons to be 163 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: optimistic about the running game. We still haven't seen Russell 164 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: Wilson do much of it. He did have a couple 165 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: of runs, but he hasn't been a real running threat yet. 166 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Thomas Rolls isn't back yet, so you get those things back. 167 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: The line's only get to develop. They're still and you know, 168 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: most of these guys had never played together before this year. 169 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: Are they going to average one hundred fifty yards a 170 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: game the rest of the season. I doubt it, but 171 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: I do think they can get some of that balanced 172 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: back for sure. How much is your optimism dependent on 173 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: seeing more of CJ. Prosis. I think he's going to 174 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: be a big part of it in the second half, 175 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: and we saw the New Orleans game. He only had 176 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: the four carries, but he had a bunch of catches 177 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: or four catches for eighty yards. He didn't get as 178 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: many touches last week, but he actually ended up playing 179 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: more than Chris and Michael because he almost played the 180 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: entire fourth quarter, so by the time that game ended, 181 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: he had played more snaps than the other running backs. 182 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what it's gonna look like 183 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: going forward that I'm sure it's going to frustrate some 184 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: fantasy football players, but that's okay. I do think he's 185 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of it in one way 186 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: or another going through the rest of the season. It'll 187 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: be interesting, especially when I think until Rawls gets back, 188 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: it might just be kind of an even back and 189 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: forth between those two with the little Alex cons mixed 190 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: in how it's gonna look when Rawls gets back, will 191 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: be interested when you kind of have three guys you're 192 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: trying to get involved. And I guess when I watch 193 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: CJ pro sis, I'm not concerned. He to me does 194 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: not look like a rookie. And I guess if if 195 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: he's the guy that correct correctly was able to get 196 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: those couple of successful running plays that Tom Cable was 197 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: pointing out earlier in the week, I guess there isn't 198 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: any reason to be concerned about if he can handle. No, 199 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: they're very excited about him, and not just the athleticism 200 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: and what a good athlete he is, but he just 201 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: seems to understand what's being asked him. I mean, especially 202 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: when he's doing the third down stuff, the two minute stuff. 203 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of responsibility there, whether it's protection or 204 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: if you're out and you know, running routes all that stuff. 205 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: It's it's a lot more complicated than just hand the 206 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: ball off and hit the hole. And he seems to be, 207 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: especially for a guy that missed what six games or 208 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: five games or whatever it was, he's been really coming 209 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: on quickly. Yeah, and we'll see if that changes the 210 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: run game. The Seahawks have not reached a hundred yards 211 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: rushing as a team in four straight games. The last 212 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: time that happened was in two thousand, which is interesting 213 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: because if you look at the running backs that year, 214 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: it was Sean Alexander and Ricky Water, so you would 215 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: think that would have been kind of an easy number. 216 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: But not to do it four straight games, we have 217 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: not seen that in the Pete Carroll era. And when 218 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: you just look at a point of comparison to where 219 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are and where the Giants were in twenty eleven. 220 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: The Giants won the Super Bowl that year, they were 221 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: last in the NFL in rushing eighty nine point one 222 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: yards per game. They still managed to win. Of course, 223 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: their run game did pick up at the end of 224 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: the season. The Seahawks right now, though, are averaging about 225 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: ten yards less a game at just seventy nine point four. 226 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: So there is some precedent, especially John's as you're saying, 227 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: you get some of these guys a little bit healthy, 228 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: see a little bit of an uptick in those numbers. Yeah, 229 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: it can be done. We've seen teams win without being 230 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: great running teams or balanced. It's just it helps, you know, 231 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: and that's that's Pete Carrolls talked about it his whole career. 232 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: He wants to have everything available. So if they go 233 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: somewhere in January and it's miserable weather and it's hard 234 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: to throw the ball, he wants to be able to 235 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: run it well. And you've got to get your defense 236 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: off the field at some point. Because so we've talked 237 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: about the number of plays that have been run, and 238 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: the two weeks leading up to that Buffalo game, Pete 239 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: Carroll and Darryl Bevill talked about how they did not 240 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: get enough plays in the first half to even know 241 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: what to make adjustments off of. When I grabbed Darryl 242 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Bevill at halftime this week and said, hey, was there 243 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: enough to game plan and make those adjustments, he said, yep, 244 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: We've got no problem. And then when you look at 245 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: the final box score, the Seahawks only ran forty two 246 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: offensive plays for the game compared to Buffalo's eighty two, 247 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,239 Speaker 1: and that is the fewest number of plays the Seahawks 248 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: have run in a game, I think all year, but 249 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: certainly in the last four weeks when we started to 250 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: see this trend of just not being able to convert 251 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: on third downs. Yeah, it's in the flip side of 252 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: that too, And Pete Carroll brought this up a couple 253 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: of times. Defensively, they haven't been getting off the field 254 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: on third down as much as they usually do, and 255 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: so at that point, I mean, the offense wasn't necessarily 256 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 1: staying on the field, but they're also not getting the 257 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: chances because you know, this defense were used to getting 258 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: off the field quickly, has given up some long drives 259 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: a lot of times. They still got to stop eventually, 260 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: but if you're letting that team stay on the field, 261 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: the offense just doesn't have as many chances. And then 262 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: go back to the point you made earlier. Some of 263 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: those early scoring drives, they were great drives and they 264 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: did a lot of things well, but they did it quickly, 265 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: and it's just you're not getting When you want to 266 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: be explosive in the passing game, that's awesome, but when 267 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you go fifty yard throw boom, you're in the end zone, 268 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: you don't run a lot of plays, right, there's a 269 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: little bit of a downside to that. When the Seahawks 270 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: did have nine explosive plays on Sunday, which is significantly 271 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: higher than what they'd had in the previous weeks, which 272 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: is a good thing. When we talk about the Seahawks defense, 273 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: they have allowed thirty one third downs on fifty three tries. Right, 274 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I could have said that a little bit better. Thirty 275 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: one of fifty three is where they're at in the 276 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: last three weeks. Again, it could have been better, but 277 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: I think you know where I'm going about this, And 278 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: they've allowed one hundred and twenty rushing yards in three 279 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: straight games. That was surprising to me. When you go 280 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: back and total those up. It is. Although the one 281 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: thing I'll say in the defense's defense that sounds funny 282 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: defense's defense is that those all three of those rushing 283 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: totals were teams that were running the ball a lot. 284 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: If you go back, you know before this last game, 285 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: it was three point some yards of carrying the other games, 286 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: even though they just kept pounding it. And it's I mean, 287 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: if you watch that game against the Bills, it looked 288 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: like they just can't tackle Tyron Taylor, they can't tackle 289 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Shady McCoy. Those guys are running all over. The Bills 290 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: were more than a yard below their season average per 291 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: carry against the Seahawks. That's how good they are running 292 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: the ball. They average five five a game coming into that, 293 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: they got four point three to carry. So it wasn't 294 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: their best defense. But it's not the disaster some people 295 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: would make it out to be. And those raw numbers 296 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: of one hundred and twenty per game are a little misleading. 297 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: When it's a five quarter game, a New Orleans team 298 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: that ran the ball a lot more than usually do, 299 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: and again, their their average wasn't great, but they just 300 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: ran the ball a ton, especially late when they're trying 301 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: to particular lead. And then a team that both ran 302 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: the ball a lot and runs the ball really really well. Yeah, 303 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: and I think not that the Seahawks have always been 304 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: good in that run defense, at least in the last 305 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: four or five years. Right, But you also don't want 306 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: to test the dbs too often, right, You want to 307 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: keep it a little bit under control. Which I'm curious. 308 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: This is a Seahawks defense that has been on the 309 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: field for two hundred and forty four plays in the 310 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: last three games, and so it'd be silly to think 311 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: that there isn't some sort of cumulative effect, right, But 312 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious, then what's the game plan for New England, 313 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: who hasn't thrown an interception this year, who could potentially 314 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: see that streak end if you want to keep going 315 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: with your normal game plan and test the Seahawks secondary 316 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: at I don't know what are we going to see 317 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: with this John, You know, I'm very curious because one 318 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: of the cool things about the Bills is how much 319 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: they're willing to change things around week to week. So 320 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: you can think, you watch them for three weeks and 321 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: think you know what the Bills are going to be, 322 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: and then they just I'm sorry the Patriots and then 323 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: they do something totally different. So part of that sack 324 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: number you mentioned, or you've talked about the interceptions, but 325 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: to digress a little bit, they don't give up sacks either, 326 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: and that's it's not so much that they're all world 327 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: on their past protection. They just Tom Brady didn't hold 328 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: the ball. We saw that with Drew Brees as well. 329 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: So it's it's hard. It's a lot of quick rhythm passing. 330 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: It's hard to get to them, and that translates to 331 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: not giving the ball up either. If you do a 332 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: bunch of quick passes, you're not gonna throw a lot 333 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: of interceptions on short stuff and hitting the quarterback leads 334 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: interceptions as well, So if you can't get to them, 335 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: it's really really tough against that offense. It's it's I 336 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: think this defense is gonna kind of step up. They 337 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: know when people are talking about them and it appears 338 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: they're not playing up to their level, and they tend 339 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: to respond well to that when they're being criticized. So 340 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a really cool matchup of 341 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: like both the Seas are gonna kind of step up 342 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: to this, and then the Patriots are just they're really good. 343 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: And those numbers are pretty similar. You know. They completely 344 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: different styles from Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick as far 345 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: as personality and just how that team responds in kind 346 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: of the personalities of the teams, but the numbers remarkably similar. 347 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: Principles very close. Yeah, wellhen Pete Carroll talks about this yesterday. 348 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: When you look at this incredible run the Bills. Why 349 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: do I keep calling on the Bills? We just played them, 350 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: same conference, same colors, even it is the same colors. Yeah, 351 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: we'll blame that. We'll give you a pass. Any who, 352 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots, you look back this incredible run thirteen division 353 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: titles in sixteen year or something like that. One of 354 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: the common factors Pete Carroll pointed to and that he's 355 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: always tried to do, is turnover differential, just take care 356 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: of the ball. And if you look those two teams 357 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: in the last five six years since the Seahawks got going, 358 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: they're always right up there, both in the overall differential 359 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: but also just taking care of the ball and not 360 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: giving up. And you look at we kind of take 361 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: this for granted because Russell Wilson has always been doing it, 362 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: but he's never thrown more in ten interceptions. Go back 363 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: to when we played the Jets. Ryan Fitzpatrick had a 364 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: stretch of like nine interceptions in a couple of weeks. 365 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: So it's not take a shot at him, but just 366 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: it's rare to have quarterbacks who take care of the 367 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: ball like that. And Tom Brady's done his whole career 368 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: in Russell Wilson's he hasn't had his best year in 369 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: terms of yards and touchdowns and all that, but too interceptions. 370 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: So if teams aren't given up the ball, it just 371 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: makes it so much harder on a defense to get stops. Well, 372 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: and Cam Chancellor expects to be back on the field. 373 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: We have seen him practice seeing what kind of difference, 374 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: what kind of impact can Cam make. I mean, he's 375 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: a big difference maker. And I think especially this kind 376 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: of game. Where as I was just talking about with 377 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots, I didn't call him the Bills at time. 378 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: The Patriots what they like to do, some of these 379 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: quick throws underneath stuff. Go back to the Super Bowl 380 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: against the Broncos. That kind of offense, Cam chancers are 381 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: real good to turn against that It's a lot less 382 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: appealing to throw a little quick hitters to your slot 383 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: receiver when Cam Chancellor's looking in there, and just the 384 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: leadership he brings. And when we saw it, he was 385 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: on the sideline whearing the headpiece so he could be involved. 386 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: Was he's not main call durning, but he can hear 387 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: what's happening, just so he stays involved with the game. 388 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: And then finally going back to our earlier conversation, he's fresh, 389 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: and I mean Kells mccraie has been doing a great job, 390 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: but Keyls McCray has also played a ton of snaps 391 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: because he plays a lot of special teams too. You 392 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: get somebody who's had a month off. As long as 393 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: you know he's right physically and everything points to him 394 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: being right, that's gonna you'll notice it. I mean you'll 395 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: see the way he moves. He's gonna look like just 396 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: brand new. Like guys. I mean, it's cumulative for teams 397 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: over time, so you don't necessarily notice when the whole 398 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: teams are wearing down because it's kind of happening to 399 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: both teams at the same point. But when you throw 400 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: somebody fresh into a game in November December, sometimes that 401 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: stands out. Yeah, and I think he's been saving up 402 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: some hits. You know, he's he needs that physical content 403 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: in it's kind of what what he feeds off. Yeah, 404 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: And like you said that, the numbers might not show 405 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: up in terms of tackles, but it's what never shows 406 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: up in the box scores. The impact that Cam actually makes. 407 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: It the past that doesn't get completed. It's the attempt 408 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: that was never missy. With Earl Thomas, sometimes you don't 409 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: appreciate what he does because it's the deep plays they 410 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: don't make with Cam Chancer. It's the stuff they're afraid 411 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: to do in the middle of the field because they 412 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: know he's lurking in there to put a good hurt 413 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: on somebody. Yeah, I'm gonna touch on this very briefly, 414 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go on one of the most 415 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: infamous names in Seattle sports history, Malcolm Butler, our good 416 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: friend from the Super Bowl. There's now a big part 417 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: of that defense. He's turned into a very good player. 418 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: And one of the things I like about that is 419 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: because it's very similar to what we see here. Undrafted guy, 420 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: a guy that nobody really gave much thought too and 421 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: came in, won a role on the team, and became 422 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: a star player. We've seen that here over and over again. 423 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: And I think the fact that both these teams are 424 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: good at that is not a coincidence that those are 425 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: two of the best teams in the NFL. When you're 426 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: willing to look anywhere for talent and give talent anywhere 427 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: on the field a chance to develop, it's gonna help 428 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: you be better, all right. And we're gonna move past that, 429 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: just like I keep moving past those pages in the media. Guy. Yeah, Yeah, 430 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: we're not even going to go there. But you know 431 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: what I do want to do is I want to 432 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: give the special teams guys just a little bit of 433 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: love because there are some pretty big milestones and we 434 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: don't often talk to John Ryan or to Stephen Haushcut, 435 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: but with a field goal this week, Housco will have 436 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: made at least one field goal in twelve straight games. 437 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: That is the second longest streak in club history. He 438 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: needs three more field goals to set the franchise mark. 439 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: He has already scored in eighty six straight games, which 440 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: is a franchise record. Yeah, he's I mean, he's been 441 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: so good for so long. I mean people are going 442 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: to point out the Arizona the one, the one. It's 443 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: really the one, like super notable miss I can think of. 444 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean he's had a kick blocked here and there 445 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: over the years, but he's been so steady. I think 446 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: he's what third or fourth all time and field goal percentage. Now, 447 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean when you have we see it all around 448 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: the league where guys are cutting kickers and signing on 449 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: guys off the street. It's it's a kind of position 450 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: where you don't really appreciate how good you have it 451 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: until you don't have a good kicker, and then all 452 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's terrifying. Yes, exactly, Yeah, you don't 453 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: know what to do. And John Ryan talk about a 454 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: guy who never gets any credit. Your punter rarely gets 455 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: the spotlight. He will break Chris Gray's franchise record streak 456 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: of one hundred and thirty five consecutive games played this week, 457 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: your longest tenured Seattle Seahawk, And it's fascinating. It was 458 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: so interesting to talk to John today because I asked, 459 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: how much has your style and your technique changed over 460 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: the years. He goes, well, I'm always tinkering stuff. I'm 461 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: the cal Ripken of punters. You know how he kept 462 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: like messing with this stands every time. I'm just trying 463 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: something new. And he said, no, your body changes, you 464 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: figure out better ways to do things, and and he 465 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: said he never focused on records, but when he realizes 466 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: the longevity of this record, he's pretty stoked. Yeah, that's 467 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: a pretty cool one. I mean, that's a long time 468 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: to be staying on the field playing And he's, you know, 469 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: like you said, people don't always appreciate the punter. But 470 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: tell you what, that last puny hap, I was just 471 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: gonna say, you're having to punt it away, trying to 472 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: hold onto a lead, and he pulls out a sixty 473 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: two yarder, and then if we're giving special teams credits, 474 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: Nico Thorpe. He's been awesome in punt coverage and he 475 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: was down there to make a tackle on that big punt. 476 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: So it's you know that this is a kind of 477 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: game where special teams could be big because he's you know, 478 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: when you have two really good teams like that deal, 479 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: position is going to matter a lot, and it would 480 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: be so nice to send them into the record books 481 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: with a win and perhaps a game changing play. Sure, 482 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: we like that, We do like that. We also like 483 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: the fact that the Seahawks are going to be on 484 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: primetime again on Sunday night. Leading up to that game 485 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: and after the game, you can catch all of John's 486 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: coverage on seahawks dot Com. Make sure that you tune 487 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: into the Seahawks Radio network for the call with Steve Rabel, 488 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: Warren Moon, and myself. That'll do it for this week's 489 00:22:45,119 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: edition of Seahawks Insiders. We'll see you next week.