Speaker 1: Welcome to Special Teams, a production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Greetings and welcome inside another episode of Special Teams with
Speaker 1: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon, as we look back at
Speaker 1: some special teams, specific years in the world of sports
Speaker 1: in the middle of our run right now, as we
Speaker 1: look back at big games in NFL history and the
Speaker 1: special teams that played in them. It's nearly been a decade,
Speaker 1: so it's time to look back at Tim Tebow's loan
Speaker 1: playoff win, the shining achievement of his National Football League
Speaker 1: career January eighth, two thousand and twelve, Broncos beating the
Speaker 1: Steelers three in overtime on a very shocking play. Oh look,
Speaker 1: last week we talked about Steve Smith in his shocking
Speaker 1: touchdown at the end of double overtime. Well, this play
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell you about coming up made that play
Speaker 1: look like a one yard touchdown plunge. At the end
Speaker 1: of Week eight, at the end of the first half
Speaker 1: of the game, because it was just that surprising Steelers
Speaker 1: and the Broncos. When Tim Tebow was on everybody's lips,
Speaker 1: I don't know that we talked about anything else in
Speaker 1: the entire world of sports in two thousand eleven. No,
Speaker 1: the curiosity of Tebow coming off the highly decorated collegiate
Speaker 1: career and into the National Football League. And you know,
Speaker 1: anybody that talked to him or about him with gush right,
Speaker 1: all the broadcasters that had met him during his time
Speaker 1: at Florida would tell you what a great person he
Speaker 1: was in addition to just one of our best collegiate
Speaker 1: quarterbacks ever. And so you have this moment where everything converges,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about some of the numbers, and even
Speaker 1: to this day just leave me astounded that this worked
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form to become what it did.
Speaker 1: But just an amazing year. And what's funny is it's
Speaker 1: just such an outlier because of where the organization went
Speaker 1: after this season concluded, the Broncos path to this game
Speaker 1: is as improbable as Tim Tebow's run. They wind up
Speaker 1: going eight and eight and they win the a f
Speaker 1: C West on tiebreakers with the Chargers and the Raiders.
Speaker 1: This was Von Miller's rookie season and coming in Kyle
Speaker 1: Lorton versus Tim Tebow, who would be the quarterback dominated
Speaker 1: the first five weeks of the season. Kyle Lorton, Buddy
Speaker 1: Kyle Orton back when he was relevant. Kyle Orton, Buddy, look,
Speaker 1: I love the neck beard. He's been relevant uh during
Speaker 1: the pandemic time because a lot of guys are just
Speaker 1: doing interviews. Uh. Brian Urlacker now with hair. When asked
Speaker 1: who his favorite quarterback was that he played with, he
Speaker 1: mentioned the neck beard. Also just kind of funny, is
Speaker 1: that you know Jay Cutler uh, well started his career
Speaker 1: in Denver, became a bear. Uh, and then Kyle Orton
Speaker 1: uh becomes a bear. Uh. And then you've got you know,
Speaker 1: John Fox would eventually um become a bear. So you know,
Speaker 1: you just got all this madness. He was a pipeline.
Speaker 1: So John Fox, who's the head coach of the Denver Broncos,
Speaker 1: has inherited Tim Tebow from Josh McDaniels, who drafted Tebow
Speaker 1: in the first round. It was a big deal when
Speaker 1: the Broncos traded him. Oh my goodness, look at Tebow
Speaker 1: coming off the star uh studied college career that he
Speaker 1: had that included Heisman trophies, National championships. What was the Broncos?
Speaker 1: What were they going to do? Well? John Fox, who
Speaker 1: was hired to bring stability to this team, had a
Speaker 1: quarterback decision to make. The fans wanted to see Tim Tebow, right,
Speaker 1: he looked what he did in Florida. I get that
Speaker 1: no one thinks he can be a great quarterback and
Speaker 1: was he overdrafted? Sure he was, but the fans wanted
Speaker 1: to see him now. Kyle Orton wasn't awful, but Denver
Speaker 1: started one and four, so they had to make the
Speaker 1: change to Tebow. What hurt Kyle Orton was the first
Speaker 1: six weeks of the season to Marius Thomas didn't play
Speaker 1: because he had a broken finger. So if Damarius Thomas plays,
Speaker 1: maybe things are a little bit different for the Broncos
Speaker 1: because he was that good. But instead they go to Tebow. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see what Tim Tebow can do. So Tebow starts
Speaker 1: first game against the Miami Dolphins down fifteen nothing in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Tebow throws for two touchdowns two point
Speaker 1: conversion run to tie the game. They win in overtime.
Speaker 1: Eighteen fifteen, The Birth of Tim Tebow. Hey, look what
Speaker 1: he's able to do, all right? Then he throws a
Speaker 1: fifty six yard touchdown past late in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: to be Kansas City seventeen ten. He has a big
Speaker 1: fourth quarter comeback against the Jets, a game in which
Speaker 1: the Broncos should have lost. The Jet should have won
Speaker 1: this game ten ways except Mark Sanchez throws a pick six,
Speaker 1: but the Jets still have the lead. Late Tebow takes
Speaker 1: over at his own five yard line, but leaves the
Speaker 1: Broncos down. The Jets can't stop him. He runs for
Speaker 1: a twenty yard touchdown to win the game. This is
Speaker 1: a play I still see where nobody wanted to come
Speaker 1: out of the end zone and try to tackle Tebow.
Speaker 1: He's getting close to the goal line because he just
Speaker 1: had a head of team. He was a freight train.
Speaker 1: So here's another big comeback. When this is on a
Speaker 1: Thursday night, so it's on national television, and at this
Speaker 1: point everything is Tim Tebow, Tebow, Tebow, Tebow Tebow. And
Speaker 1: if the win against my Jets wasn't so bad, the
Speaker 1: ten point fourth quarter comeback against your Bears is even worse.
Speaker 1: But of course, I know you blame Marian Barber for
Speaker 1: all of this. I blame Maryan Barber for everything, no
Speaker 1: question about it. Right, yeah, yeah, they finally score, right,
Speaker 1: Tebow's got him in the end of fine, but they've
Speaker 1: got two minutes left. This is easy, Barber with a run,
Speaker 1: Barber with a run, Barber with a run. They take
Speaker 1: the pen on the delay of game. But the key
Speaker 1: was he had a five yard run that he's getting
Speaker 1: towards the sideline, and instead of turning it back in
Speaker 1: or sliding or just engaging someone and forcing him to
Speaker 1: tackle him in bounce, he goes out of balance of
Speaker 1: his own volition. So you stopped the clock. You stop
Speaker 1: the clock, and eventually you end up punting to give
Speaker 1: the ball back to Tebow and company. Yeah, you still
Speaker 1: gotta go make a step, but the game's over. They don't.
Speaker 1: We use their third time out. That's it, it's done.
Speaker 1: Tebow Magic is dead. Tebow Magic is dead. This would
Speaker 1: have ended the winning streak, ended the legend of Tebow.
Speaker 1: But Mary and the Barbarians, the guy who I watched
Speaker 1: in the Big ten and with the Cowboys with the
Speaker 1: Bears run through walls, decides to go out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Jason Smith, I watched it in preparation. There was a
Speaker 1: shot of Tebow praying, just give me the strength to honor.
Speaker 1: You give me that opportunity. So Barbara doesn't run out
Speaker 1: of bounds, and that turns into the game tying score,
Speaker 1: they win in overtime. And at this point in the NFL,
Speaker 1: he is the only NFL story. He's the only culture
Speaker 1: is Tim Tebow driven. There are songs written about Remember
Speaker 1: John parted, Tim Tebo was fire. I mean, it's all
Speaker 1: you can talk about. There's no other stories in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Tebow was on everybody's lips Saturday. This good? How is
Speaker 1: the guy this good? Is he really this good? Many
Speaker 1: people didn't think he was very good at all, and
Speaker 1: just kept getting lucky every week, and certainly with teams
Speaker 1: like the Jets and the Bears helping, it helped the
Speaker 1: legend of Tim Tebow. But he was polarizing. He had
Speaker 1: huge fans, but it didn't matter. He was the entire
Speaker 1: news cycle of the National Football League. And here are
Speaker 1: the Broncos at eight and five and things are looking great.
Speaker 1: Eventually they waived Kyle Orton because they didn't need him anymore.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, we don't need it, We don't
Speaker 1: need this guy. Okay, he's your backup. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we don't need anymore. We're getting we need that's all.
Speaker 1: He could play all different positions for us. One big
Speaker 1: thing that that happened to the Broncos at this point
Speaker 1: during the season, was no Sean Marino, who was going
Speaker 1: to get the Lions share of that carries a running
Speaker 1: back towards a c l and missed the back half
Speaker 1: of the season. So this is a huge weapon that
Speaker 1: the Broncos had to navigate the rest of the year without.
Speaker 1: But it didn't matter. They had Tebow. Tebow. Tibow Tebow Tebow.
Speaker 1: Broncos are right and five, everything is awesome. Well what
Speaker 1: happens They lose three straight to close the season, including
Speaker 1: seven three to the Chiefs in the final game of
Speaker 1: the year. And guess it was the quarterback of the
Speaker 1: Chiefs in that game, Kyle Orton's He was who the
Speaker 1: Chiefs had picked up because they were having trouble. So
Speaker 1: here's Kyle Orton wins the big revenge game against Tim
Speaker 1: Tebow and at this point, going into the playoffs, it
Speaker 1: was Tebow magic has gone. He went six in that game.
Speaker 1: It was great for a few weeks, but now everybody's
Speaker 1: figured him out. He's a limited quarterback anyway coming in
Speaker 1: and that's what people forget is coming out of Florida,
Speaker 1: he was a great college football quarterback. But how many
Speaker 1: times are you gonna run the football into the middle
Speaker 1: of the line and and gain a lot of yards
Speaker 1: and then come out and throw the football. Tebow had
Speaker 1: a lot of issues. He had a long wind up.
Speaker 1: He wasn't very accurate. That's why everybody was on one
Speaker 1: side of the fence or the other as far as
Speaker 1: how good he could become. Now, the thing for Tebow
Speaker 1: is that he's still young and this is his first
Speaker 1: real starting experience, so maybe he can grow. But it
Speaker 1: didn't matter because he was so polarizing. There were many
Speaker 1: people that wanted to say, this is it on Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1: Many NFL players didn't like him, and that was the
Speaker 1: insane part of it is that you never heard and
Speaker 1: you never hear NFL players bagging another quarterbacks. You never hear,
Speaker 1: but you heard it. You heard it from other players.
Speaker 1: Heard it from Joe Flacco, you heard it from Steve Smith,
Speaker 1: you heard it from Terrell Suggs. Many played Tebow's overrated, overrated, overrated.
Speaker 1: This is what you got because Tebow was just polarizing
Speaker 1: that way. And now at this point it's okay, it
Speaker 1: was great, but hey, they're gonna squeak into the playoffs
Speaker 1: and they're gonna play one game and that's gonna be it,
Speaker 1: and then the Broncos will be looking for a new quarterback. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You just remember how inefficient it all was, Jason. I mean,
Speaker 1: he had one game where he completed better than fifty
Speaker 1: two and a half percent of his passes, six games
Speaker 1: where he completed ten or fewer passes, only two games
Speaker 1: where he threw for more than two hundred yards. He
Speaker 1: should I keep going. I mean, it's just like all
Speaker 1: of it just uh. They scored more than twenty points
Speaker 1: three times between week seven and seventeen. But when in
Speaker 1: the big plays, which is what he did. He made
Speaker 1: big plays and he came through in the clutch. He
Speaker 1: would have a crappy ass game, but then suddenly the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter he would have fifty yards rushing in a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty yards passing. It was, what did he
Speaker 1: just wear us down? And also sudden, why can he
Speaker 1: throw the football? And like he couldn't do the first
Speaker 1: three quarters of the game. But that was the magic
Speaker 1: of Tebow. There was no reason for it. And why
Speaker 1: is he suddenly playing well in the fourth quarter, rising
Speaker 1: to the occasion and and being that guy when the
Speaker 1: chips were down? That's what tim Tebow was made of
Speaker 1: and it was stunning to watch. But in the end,
Speaker 1: you know, look, we thought it was over. They lost
Speaker 1: three in a row. Suddenly it was they couldn't put
Speaker 1: points on the board. And here comes Pittsburgh into town.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, this is a Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: team that gets to this game with one of the
Speaker 1: best defensive years this franchise has had. They allowed the
Speaker 1: fewest points, fewest passing yards in total yards overall in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Alright, typical strong defense like they've always had,
Speaker 1: but this one was extremely strong. Alright, So this is
Speaker 1: they're gonna come in and they're gonna just lay waste
Speaker 1: to the Broncos Tebows. They're not gonna move the football
Speaker 1: at all. Offenses where things got a little wacky. This
Speaker 1: is back when Mike Wallace was the star wide receiver.
Speaker 1: But you know, before he was just a deep threat.
Speaker 1: You know, Mike Wallace was the guy and when his
Speaker 1: genius was taking advantage of broken plays. He would only
Speaker 1: catch like maybe four passes a game, but he was
Speaker 1: still went up with a hundred yards because it was
Speaker 1: a broken play where Roethlisberger would buy time and Mike
Speaker 1: Wallace would cut all the way across the field and
Speaker 1: suddenly a broken play is a forty five yard game
Speaker 1: to Mike Wallace, I mean it was his team. Emmanuel
Speaker 1: Sanders was up and coming, Hines Ward was near the
Speaker 1: end of his career, but he was still contributing. And oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, this was a second year for Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown with the Pittsburgh Steelers, so their offense was in
Speaker 1: a bit of a transition phase. But here's Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: back when he was a guy that won the competition
Speaker 1: to be the third wide receiver out of camp after
Speaker 1: Antoine Randall l left the team. He was returning kicks
Speaker 1: and punts and he did it for a long time.
Speaker 1: Think about that, How crazy that was. Here's the best
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the NFL. We're putting him out there
Speaker 1: to get hurt returning kicks and punts. But this was
Speaker 1: just his second year in the league where he was
Speaker 1: the third wide receiver. Other guys were starting. It was
Speaker 1: other players out there the Steeler trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what their offense looked like. And he had a really
Speaker 1: good year. He caught sixty nine passes yards, just a
Speaker 1: couple of touchdowns. And once you see that This is
Speaker 1: a big jumping off point for him. He wound up
Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl this year along with Wallace and Roethlisberger. Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: Steeler's offense is now loaded up again. We're ready to go.
Speaker 1: You know it was. It was off the Antoine Randall L.
Speaker 1: Hines Ward situation, Super Bowl forty Jerome Bettis Now this
Speaker 1: turned into air Pittsburgh and and for the better part
Speaker 1: of a decade, this Dealer's team was absolutely low wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And this was kind of the beginning of that time,
Speaker 1: cycling guys in and out. I just remember going to
Speaker 1: training camp, out a visit, a meeting up with Ton
Speaker 1: Chilkin and and and Craig Wolfley, two guys who played
Speaker 1: for the team broadcast for the team, and they always
Speaker 1: had me out. We talked some football and go down
Speaker 1: on the practice field and we're standing there watching the
Speaker 1: wide receivers warm up. And this is would have been
Speaker 1: so watching Brown as a rookie. And now like come here.
Speaker 1: It's like I gotta talked to Wallace in a minute,
Speaker 1: like Michael Waite for you come here, come he goes
Speaker 1: what because watch this guy's footwork and and he was
Speaker 1: going through some basic drills and it's Antonio Brown just
Speaker 1: working hard like this is practice is done. Like we'd
Speaker 1: already done all arounds and watched the fights and and
Speaker 1: all of that fun stuff that you'd get in Latrobe. Uh,
Speaker 1: and guys were getting to their individual work after the
Speaker 1: long workout in the in the blazing sun. As like
Speaker 1: this kid is gonna be a star. He and and
Speaker 1: he knows it. That's like, okay, that's good. Just wait
Speaker 1: and that's all they said about it. It's like, this
Speaker 1: is the guy you want to tell people who the
Speaker 1: breakout guy is gonna be. Mike's gonna have a big year,
Speaker 1: but watch watch Antonio. So I go back, I interviewed
Speaker 1: Mike Wallace and you know, say hi to Antonio and
Speaker 1: the other guy hasn't gone. But I just remember them
Speaker 1: just so very lately, just going he knows he's good,
Speaker 1: but look at the work and watch the footwork out
Speaker 1: of every break and I mean they were right. He
Speaker 1: goes on to become just an absolute monster on the field.
Speaker 1: This is the journey of both teams to this game.
Speaker 1: Before Antonio Brown would become the best wide receiver in
Speaker 1: the National Football League and then one of the biggest
Speaker 1: head cases and pains in the National Football League. He
Speaker 1: was the second year player who was rapidly ascending everything.
Speaker 1: Even though the game was gonna be in Denver because
Speaker 1: of the when you win a division, you play the
Speaker 1: wild card team, it still looked like it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a Pittsburgh runaway and it was anything but we'll
Speaker 1: get into that coming up next Special Teams with Jason
Speaker 1: Smith and Mike Carmen tim Tebow's playoff win. It is
Speaker 1: that time time for the playoff game between the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 1: who had the best defense in the National Football League
Speaker 1: in an offense that was starting to find itself, versus
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, who were just hoping to find something
Speaker 1: after a really bad three week losing streak. Now, all
Speaker 1: week long, the Broncos players talked about how they felt lost.
Speaker 1: They were desperate. Tebow was still the same guy. He
Speaker 1: would sprint two drills all week long. Criticism of him
Speaker 1: was at all time high. It doesn't matter. His throwing
Speaker 1: motion was too long, he wasn't accurate enough, criticized by
Speaker 1: NFL players, didn't matter. Tebow led by example that week
Speaker 1: in practice and a big conversation he had with John Elway,
Speaker 1: who told him, listen, just pulled the trigger. Just throw,
Speaker 1: all right, just you do you, but pull the trigger
Speaker 1: and throw. Don't think too much, react and let's see
Speaker 1: what happens. And that's clearly the attitude the Broncos went
Speaker 1: into this game with because they had nothing to lose.
Speaker 1: You look there, eight and eight. They had a great
Speaker 1: roller coaster season, but no one expected them to win
Speaker 1: this game. No, it was a season they were already
Speaker 1: playing with house money quite a while. The fact that
Speaker 1: they win the tiebreaker in a three way tie for
Speaker 1: the a f C West to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's another one of the divine inspiration moments, right,
Speaker 1: A streaky team playing terribly and he was awful down
Speaker 1: the stretch. Yet you find yourself in this moment. So
Speaker 1: what do you you figure the Steelers, Dick le Beau.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be aggressive, that's the way they operate, and
Speaker 1: especially against the guy like tebow a don't let that
Speaker 1: body get in motion like your Jets did, or nobody
Speaker 1: wanted to come up and challenge him. Sorry, the Bears
Speaker 1: did the same thing. So I can't push away from that.
Speaker 1: But you know, so take that away. But also you know,
Speaker 1: you're you're figuring your corners and and your safeties are
Speaker 1: going to be able to work because you have that
Speaker 1: big wind up and the ball that oftentimes just kind
Speaker 1: of floated out there, right, he had a strong arm,
Speaker 1: just a matter of accuracy and and putting a little
Speaker 1: bit too much air at times and giving guys a
Speaker 1: chance to make a break and make a play. And
Speaker 1: so it seemed like the logical, logical game plans. So
Speaker 1: you go and you you punch them in the mouth,
Speaker 1: hoping that you're gonna hit on a couple of big ones.
Speaker 1: And again, this is another game where the opponent of
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow helped him to have a great day because
Speaker 1: the Steelers loaded up on the run. They they they decided,
Speaker 1: you are not going to run the football on us
Speaker 1: and beat us. We're gonna make Tebow throw the football.
Speaker 1: And we're still gonna run up and load up and
Speaker 1: put eight guys in the box all day. Well, take
Speaker 1: out mcgahey, and then also, don't let Tebow do a
Speaker 1: bunch of you know, quarterback draws. Right, Let's let's not
Speaker 1: let him gain momentum. Here he goes off tackle for
Speaker 1: eight yards nine yards. Don't let him feel it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna put everybody in the box, and Tebow's not accurate
Speaker 1: enough to stop anybody. We're Willis mcgahey, who now they
Speaker 1: were relying on to be the running back with no
Speaker 1: Seawan Marino out. This was where the Steelers said, this
Speaker 1: is how we're gonna win this game. Tebow completes just
Speaker 1: ten out of one passes on the day, but he
Speaker 1: still winds up throwing for three hundred and sixteen yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns, averaging thirty yards per completion. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the kind of day Tebow had. The big plays
Speaker 1: he made were in the passing game, right, when when
Speaker 1: you try to stop the run and you load up,
Speaker 1: you just have to hit on one play and what's
Speaker 1: the odject on one play repeatedly? Well, the odds were
Speaker 1: in Tim Tebow's favor that day because he kept hitting
Speaker 1: those big pass plays. He also ran enough, ran for
Speaker 1: enough yards to keep Pittsburgh's defense honest. He ran for
Speaker 1: fifty yards in the touchdown in this game. And this
Speaker 1: is a game in which Tebow and the Broncos lost
Speaker 1: Eric Decker early to an injury, because, hey, you know
Speaker 1: the weapons they had in Denver at wide receiver they
Speaker 1: were in slouchy. Decker was one of the better wide
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL. And to Marius Thomas, he's in
Speaker 1: the middle of a run where he might be the
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the NFL at this point. I mean,
Speaker 1: people forget that. You know, he had a run where
Speaker 1: he was as good as it got for anybody in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. And so you have Thomas and
Speaker 1: you have Eric Decker. Hey, you should be able to
Speaker 1: make plays in the passing game. But losing Eric Decker,
Speaker 1: all right, maybe this is gonna be it for the Broncos.
Speaker 1: How difficult is it gonna be for them to throw
Speaker 1: the football? Will? Still they were able to throw the
Speaker 1: football well. To Marius Thomas only caught four passes, but
Speaker 1: the four passes he had in this game two hundred
Speaker 1: and four yards and a touchdown four for a hundreds
Speaker 1: of pretty good game. This is four for two hundred
Speaker 1: for to Maririus Thomas. That's not a bad look, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you got chunked plays throughout the game. Uh.
Speaker 1: And obviously we'll build up to the crescendo here, but
Speaker 1: you know, Eddie Royal step it up and make it
Speaker 1: a big playing had another guy that ended up as
Speaker 1: a bear. Yeah, they all do. They all do that, big.
Speaker 1: How did Tim Tebow never wear a bear? You never know,
Speaker 1: you never know. He could still wind up, You never know,
Speaker 1: you could still leave the Mets and and come back.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is the curiosity. Though Daniel Fells also
Speaker 1: had a forty yard catch, so that's selling out. Left
Speaker 1: a lot of space over the middle. If Tebow had
Speaker 1: been even that much more accurate, this might not have
Speaker 1: been a game at all. Uh, this is how it
Speaker 1: would go. Tebow would be bottled up and then he
Speaker 1: hit for a big play. Right. He had a fifty
Speaker 1: one and fifty eight yard completions to Marius Thomas to
Speaker 1: set up two touchdowns in the second quarter. So that's
Speaker 1: how it went for Tebow in the first half. Bottle up,
Speaker 1: bottle up, bottle up, big play, bottle up, bottle up,
Speaker 1: bottle up, big play. But then Tebow and Denver's offense
Speaker 1: was completely shut down in the second half for the Steelers,
Speaker 1: Isaac Redman was gashing Denver on the ground. Roethlisberger doesn't
Speaker 1: have a great game, but he's good enough and he
Speaker 1: was clutch. Pittsburgh scores ten points in the final ten
Speaker 1: minutes to tie this game twenty three. It looks like
Speaker 1: they could potentially win the game, but the Broncos defense
Speaker 1: comes up big. They force overtime. On the final drive.
Speaker 1: They sacked Roethlisberger three times, and Roethlisberger after the game
Speaker 1: you talked about and lamented that final drive because he
Speaker 1: got sacked three times, he fumbled once. He said, somebody
Speaker 1: got a finger on the football. So this first half
Speaker 1: goes all Denver's way. The second half goes all Pittsburgh's way.
Speaker 1: They have a chance to win this game in the
Speaker 1: final minutes, but Denver's defense, which this is the beginning
Speaker 1: of their great run defensively as well. Denver's defense comes
Speaker 1: up big and they force overtime. So Pittsburgh they own
Speaker 1: the second half. And I remember watching this game going overtime,
Speaker 1: going this is one of those games where it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of time before Pittsburgh wins. You know what,
Speaker 1: what are the Broncos really gonna do here? They haven't
Speaker 1: done anything in two quarters. They haven't moved the football
Speaker 1: at all. Everything was great in the first half and
Speaker 1: Tebow was able to gash them, but boy, this Heelers
Speaker 1: have really been just on top of things. And even
Speaker 1: if the Broncos get the football, are they really gonna
Speaker 1: move it? It's just gonna be inevitable that the Deelers
Speaker 1: are gonna get a field goal, get a touchdown, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna win this game. Well, and that was one
Speaker 1: of the beautiful things. I mean, even though you have
Speaker 1: this robust final scores, that you have two of the
Speaker 1: best defenses getting after it. Uh. And they supported well
Speaker 1: the and gave Tebow all those opportunities for to make
Speaker 1: those miraculous plays. And here was another opportunity right here,
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, who finished just shy of three hundred yards
Speaker 1: on the day. Uh. Emmanuel Sanders leading them with eighty
Speaker 1: one receiving yards. Heath Miller, remember how clutch he was
Speaker 1: over the middle for them all those years. Uh. And
Speaker 1: Isaac Redman, who's the answer to a trivia question, and
Speaker 1: all of this, but five sacks absorbed by Roethlisberger on
Speaker 1: the day at the statue s standing in the pocket
Speaker 1: trying to get a guy loose down the sideline right
Speaker 1: as we've watched him do how many times, you know,
Speaker 1: you and I watching game in the studio. It's like,
Speaker 1: just get rid of the ball. Live to see another day.
Speaker 1: Here he's one of those guys that will try to
Speaker 1: fight off stand with guys shaking off his legs. But eventually,
Speaker 1: you know, even the biggest tree topples. So three times
Speaker 1: in that big possession and you kick yourself wondering what
Speaker 1: if you just get rid of the ball once and
Speaker 1: don't give up the couple of yards off the sack.
Speaker 1: So we go to overtime, tied twenty three, and the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos get the football first. This was the first
Speaker 1: playoff game with the new overtime rules that were put
Speaker 1: into effect because oh Bred Farve didn't get a chance
Speaker 1: to get the football and overtime against the Saints, and
Speaker 1: it was so sad. So the new overtime rule was,
Speaker 1: if you kicked a field goal on your first possession,
Speaker 1: the other team got the ball back and they got
Speaker 1: a chance to drive unless someone scored a touchdown first. Right,
Speaker 1: So that was the rule when it first came out,
Speaker 1: was if you score a touch first, team to score
Speaker 1: a touchdown wins. If you score a touchdown to you win,
Speaker 1: But if you kick a few goal on the first drive,
Speaker 1: the other team gets the football and a chance to
Speaker 1: potentially tie or win the game. These were the new
Speaker 1: rules and they were still kind of everybody was getting
Speaker 1: used to them, because, look, they had been in place already,
Speaker 1: but we hadn't had an overtime playoff game with the
Speaker 1: new rules in it yet. So here was the first
Speaker 1: time we saw the new game, or we saw the
Speaker 1: new rules in this game, and we had to think
Speaker 1: about him. On the very first play of overtime, you
Speaker 1: can still see Tim Tebow's big wind up on the throw.
Speaker 1: The Broncos have the football first in ten and Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: again decides we are going to play the run. And
Speaker 1: right before the snap, Pittsburgh brings their defensive backs up
Speaker 1: and it's one on one coverage of Ike Taylor, who
Speaker 1: was a pretty good cover cornerback onto Marrius Thomas. It's
Speaker 1: not a running play, you know, the Steelers were expecting
Speaker 1: a running play. But Tebow drops back in the pocket
Speaker 1: and he delivers a laser over the middle to Demarius Thomas.
Speaker 1: Now this play was a surprising play. Should have been
Speaker 1: a twenty yard play and oh look at this, hey,
Speaker 1: big play there up, you know, close to midfield. But
Speaker 1: instead Demarrius Thomas gives the stiff farm of a lifetime
Speaker 1: to Ike Taylor, who is then just I think he
Speaker 1: gets enveloped by the ground. I think Ike Taylor actually
Speaker 1: falls underground off of this stiff farm by de Marius Thomas.
Speaker 1: He could have been stopped for twenty five yard game.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen, and Thomas outraces everybody to the end
Speaker 1: zone eleven seconds, the quickest overtime in NFL history. Mile
Speaker 1: High goes crazy and Thomas tries to come back out
Speaker 1: of the tunnel to celebrate, but he can't because his
Speaker 1: teammates are already running through the tunnel. Ladd him. Tebow
Speaker 1: Is is praying on the field. Fans are grabbing their heads.
Speaker 1: They can't believe what they just saw. And the Broncos
Speaker 1: win this game, first playoff overtime. It was as shocking
Speaker 1: as it could be. But I guarantee you this, Mike Harmen,
Speaker 1: the average football fan is saying, the game's over right.
Speaker 1: The game's over right because the new rules to touchdown
Speaker 1: the wait, the Steelers don't get the ball back now.
Speaker 1: So while everybody's going crazy in Denver, the people are
Speaker 1: watching on TV and we're all going so it's over right.
Speaker 1: I guarantee of fans and Denver. We're going we score
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Wait, we're still playing as a game over.
Speaker 1: The game's over. Well, it's funny, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: They put up the big graphic right the full screen
Speaker 1: with all the rules and and then different ways and
Speaker 1: that this spiders out to get you to a conclusion
Speaker 1: of the game. I was waiting for them to fire
Speaker 1: that one back up, by the way, and let me
Speaker 1: circle this on the telestrator. Games over, Games over. But
Speaker 1: to your point, I mean, Damarius Thomas, what is he about?
Speaker 1: Six three and a half to thirty two thirty five?
Speaker 1: Man Taylor comes over, usually a pretty sure tackler. He
Speaker 1: can't even get a hand on him. Thomas cradles the
Speaker 1: ball in his right arm, left arm goes straight up
Speaker 1: with a jab like he's boxing Mike Tyson. And that's it.
Speaker 1: Gets yourself enough separation and there's no catching him. And
Speaker 1: like I said, for da Marius Thomas, this is the
Speaker 1: beginning of his breakout in the National Football League, because
Speaker 1: the next three years, his the next four years four
Speaker 1: hundred yards, four hundred yards, sixteen hundred yards, hundred yards.
Speaker 1: His touchdowns are ten, fourteen, eleven. Arguably this is the
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the National Football League and this
Speaker 1: was really his You thought it was Tim Tebow's coming
Speaker 1: out part. Look at look at Tim Tebow was back
Speaker 1: and he's great. No, this was Hey, wait, Amrius Thomas
Speaker 1: is pretty damn good. No, my goodness, he might be
Speaker 1: the best guy in the game. Yeah. I mean, you
Speaker 1: had what five straight years with at least ninety receptions,
Speaker 1: just crazy production, dugging all those double digit touchdown years
Speaker 1: and just being able to dominate in one on one situations.
Speaker 1: Even after he left Denver and we said, all right,
Speaker 1: maybe he's in New England, Houston. Uh Jets, Uh you
Speaker 1: you kept waiting, but but you kept waiting for him
Speaker 1: to show flashes of that guy that he was prior
Speaker 1: to say, two thousand seventeen into two thousand eighteen, where
Speaker 1: things kind of changed up for him. I mean that
Speaker 1: he was a guy that was just an absolute monster
Speaker 1: for for five years there, and I mean that's about
Speaker 1: as much of a run as we can expect from
Speaker 1: most most receivers of that level of dominance. And he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys that once he had thirty years old,
Speaker 1: that's where the slide came, right. He was great, and
Speaker 1: then he was thirty, and then after he was thirty,
Speaker 1: he was on three different teams and and and that
Speaker 1: was it for him. And now he's knocking around and
Speaker 1: he he had to go to the Jets to continue
Speaker 1: his career. I mean serious, And that's about it. Let's
Speaker 1: just think about the just the ending of this game though,
Speaker 1: this is the I went to make myself sandwich. I'm
Speaker 1: listening to them. You go through the new playoff overtime rules,
Speaker 1: and then it's done. It's done. You couldn't have warmed
Speaker 1: it up. You couldn't even layered the cheese on that
Speaker 1: you love so much. This play, this eight yard touchdown,
Speaker 1: was so it was like a flash flood that you
Speaker 1: didn't see it coming. And again I said, you can
Speaker 1: see Tebow's big long wind up on the play, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because he had time and it was money.
Speaker 1: And another part of this play that doesn't get enough
Speaker 1: attention is that Thomas out races safety Ryan Mundy to
Speaker 1: the end zone for a touchdown. All right, so to Marys,
Speaker 1: Thomas makes to catch. He stiff arms a great stiff
Speaker 1: farm for Ike Taylor. But this is where he should
Speaker 1: get caught at some point because he's coming down the
Speaker 1: sideline and Steelers players are coming over, Monday can't catch
Speaker 1: him and he gets in the end zone for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Monday is only playing. He's the backup because Ryan Clark,
Speaker 1: who was one of the best safeties in the NFL,
Speaker 1: the regular starter, couldn't play in this game because remember,
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark has that rare blood condition. Yeah, that mile
Speaker 1: high conditions elevate, So it wasn't safe for him to
Speaker 1: play in this game. And you've seen this now over
Speaker 1: the course of the past years, people with that sickle cell,
Speaker 1: and I can't play in Denver. I gotta sit this
Speaker 1: game out. So Ryan Clark couldn't play in this game.
Speaker 1: And you know, he had a great quote after saying, no,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't that. You know, we we played
Speaker 1: this game. You don't say that that we would have
Speaker 1: won if I had played, But you don't We wonder
Speaker 1: what that play would have looked like if Ryan Clark
Speaker 1: was playing. You wonder what a lot of these passing
Speaker 1: plays that Tebow was able to pull off in the
Speaker 1: game would have looked like if Ryan Clark was playing,
Speaker 1: because he was that good. And maybe he catches to
Speaker 1: Marry as Thomas at the forty yard line and things
Speaker 1: turn out differently, or maybe you know, he doesn't allow
Speaker 1: a big completion, helps you know, has helped over the
Speaker 1: top on one of the other big completions that set
Speaker 1: up a score that they had earlier in the day.
Speaker 1: But Ryan Clark missing this game and that was a
Speaker 1: huge deal. And still the Steelers played that big press
Speaker 1: coverage the whole game. We're putting up guys up in
Speaker 1: the box and trying to make sure that Denver has
Speaker 1: to try to throw the football to beat us. And
Speaker 1: guess what, Denver through the football and they beat him
Speaker 1: now and that and that's it. You take advantage. You know,
Speaker 1: it's an unfortunate circumstance with Ryan Clark that he couldn't
Speaker 1: be there. I mean, in this particular play him in
Speaker 1: Monday takes a bad angle trying to get over Uh
Speaker 1: and make up after Taylor Uh takes his swing and
Speaker 1: missus with stiff arms. So you know, could he have
Speaker 1: forced him out of bounds? Can gotten himself? You know,
Speaker 1: maybe they're at field goal range and look, field goal
Speaker 1: range was midfield uh in Denver at that time. But
Speaker 1: the idea being that you know, you at least play
Speaker 1: get another play to try to make a play. And
Speaker 1: here you know, for the Steelers, they kept selling out
Speaker 1: and give Tebo credit. Only completed ten basses. That's all
Speaker 1: we needed. Fans voted at the best home field moment
Speaker 1: in Broncos sports history. And this is a team that's
Speaker 1: had a lot of big home field moments. Yeah, John
Speaker 1: Elway making last minute drives now the number one moment
Speaker 1: in Broncos history. Excitement of tebow Mania was at its peak.
Speaker 1: Now suddenly Tebow was back in whoa we get to
Speaker 1: play the Patriots? Can Bill Belichick stop Tim Tebow? Tebow
Speaker 1: could be on the run. Know, this was the end
Speaker 1: of Tim Tebow. It was the pinnacle of his NFL career.
Speaker 1: We get into it, we'll tell you how things broke
Speaker 1: down for him and the Broncos and Steelers coming up
Speaker 1: next on special teams. What happened to both the Steelers
Speaker 1: and the Broncos following Tim Tebow's playoff win? Well, because
Speaker 1: we finished things up here on special teams today. Uh,
Speaker 1: not quite the direction that you would think for either
Speaker 1: of these teams. Pittsburgh goes home in two thousand and twelve,
Speaker 1: they go eight and eight. Hines Ward is cut and retires.
Speaker 1: He's maybe the most underrated wide receiver of the last
Speaker 1: twenty years because he did it all. Yes, he was dirty,
Speaker 1: but he called eight he passes a season, he blocked
Speaker 1: down fielded all of this, despite the fact he didn't
Speaker 1: get along well with Ben Roethlisberger. But the Dealers did
Speaker 1: in the off season was let's improve the running game
Speaker 1: a little bit. So they draft levy On Bell in
Speaker 1: the first round and this is the beginning of the
Speaker 1: triplets of Roethlisberger and Bell and Antonio Brown that brought
Speaker 1: them the great playoff fights, though not a Super Bowl. Uh.
Speaker 1: The rest of the decade. All hinens Ward did was
Speaker 1: then go and race to the end zone in Gotham City. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't really think that he was fast enough for
Speaker 1: that touchdown. It seemed kind of odd. I'd like to
Speaker 1: check that out a little bit again. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the whole other thing of movie making, uh, and believability.
Speaker 1: But you know what I worked with, and I'm still
Speaker 1: trying to get one of those uniforms in many helmets.
Speaker 1: But yeah, to your point, Hines Ward fantastic receiver, big numbers,
Speaker 1: was always on the spot, and those running backs and
Speaker 1: and offensive Lineman. I'm sure paid for some of his
Speaker 1: meals because he out make those numbers look that much
Speaker 1: better blocking down field, there's no question about it. And
Speaker 1: well you all and you know all about Levyan Bellet
Speaker 1: so good, so good with it. Um, So that was
Speaker 1: the look it was. It was a tough loss, obviously
Speaker 1: in the wild card game, and then the next year
Speaker 1: was difficult as well, because the Steelers don't have five
Speaker 1: or under seasons. I mean, look, they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: have many. Going eight and eight is about that's as
Speaker 1: bad as a guess. Alright, this is a team that
Speaker 1: hasn't been under eight and eight in a long time. Alright.
Speaker 1: They were six and ten and two thousand and three, okay,
Speaker 1: and then they were six and ten in nine and
Speaker 1: seven and nine, and then before that you're going all
Speaker 1: the way back to this is a team that is
Speaker 1: good every year. And here they are able to restart
Speaker 1: their franchise building around Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown and Levi
Speaker 1: on Bell Now for the Denver Broncos. The next week
Speaker 1: they go to New England and well that was it
Speaker 1: for them. Belichick shuts down Tebo. But more importantly, it
Speaker 1: was the Patriots offense that blew through this terrific Broncos defense,
Speaker 1: because it wasn't so much that Tebow was awful, it
Speaker 1: was Brady and the Patriots. It was fourteen nothing before
Speaker 1: you could blink. And I don't know there was anyway
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow was gonna win that game because clearly the
Speaker 1: Broncos out of formula. We gotta keep it close and
Speaker 1: our quarterback makes clutch plays and wins the game. This
Speaker 1: game was never close, all right, And I wonder if
Speaker 1: this game losing to the Patriots like this, seeing the
Speaker 1: way Brady and the Patriots offense moved through them, was
Speaker 1: the decision that Elway needed to make to say, you
Speaker 1: know what, We're only gonna be so good when we
Speaker 1: have Tebow at quarterback, so we gotta go on and
Speaker 1: make a different decision and get somebody else in, which
Speaker 1: is crazy considering the season you just came off of.
Speaker 1: The guy's a cult hero, and John Elway decides, let's
Speaker 1: move on at quarterback because we need to be more dynamic,
Speaker 1: and that's what they did by going out and getting
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, who was coming off an injury. The Colts
Speaker 1: moved on because they had Andrew Luck Peyton Manning chose
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Hey, he knew I was gonna get
Speaker 1: more life on my fastball throwing the football in the
Speaker 1: mile high air, and the Broncos, after one great year
Speaker 1: of Tim tebo Oh, signed Peyton Manning, future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: You can't say they did it wrong because they went
Speaker 1: to two Super Bowls and they won one. But it
Speaker 1: was still shocking to see we're gonna turn the page
Speaker 1: on Tebow after the year. Yet really we're just gonna
Speaker 1: let him go there And there was part of always
Speaker 1: crazy but while we're bringing in Peyton Manning, So okay,
Speaker 1: clearly he knew what he was doing there for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: but it didn't matter. It was wait a minute, did
Speaker 1: this guy just had an all time season as a
Speaker 1: quarterback and now he's gonna be looking for a new team.
Speaker 1: Fourteen games, eleven starts, seven and four record, uh and bounced.
Speaker 1: He completed six of his passes that year. So when
Speaker 1: you're talking about everything going in your favor, and you
Speaker 1: and I have talked about this on our show on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio for years, where you have a season,
Speaker 1: you don't have any injuries, everybody's healthy. I may go
Speaker 1: back to the year Derek Carr was an m VP candidate.
Speaker 1: Everything was right until he was until he got hurt,
Speaker 1: right until But I mean like they didn't lose any
Speaker 1: time on either side of the ball. Everything worked likewise,
Speaker 1: this Denverse squad, and you mentioned Noshean Marina going down
Speaker 1: a big loss, but mcgahey was still a twelve yard
Speaker 1: rusher they still had and Tebow was averaging what forty
Speaker 1: nine yards or a game or thereabouts for for part
Speaker 1: of that streak that you're you're getting enough out of
Speaker 1: your running game to give you some balance, but you're
Speaker 1: you're really forcing the defense to give up nothing to
Speaker 1: give you a chance to win because you couldn't guarantee
Speaker 1: that that next eight yard pass was coming, that the
Speaker 1: skies would open or you know, there there'd be a
Speaker 1: hole on the field. So you going back to Hines
Speaker 1: Warden Baine, uh there. But the idea that you have
Speaker 1: that you needed more consistency and continuity, And as luck
Speaker 1: would have it, you've got Peyton Manning coming and making
Speaker 1: his tours and deciding where he wants to play football.
Speaker 1: So if you were going to move on from an
Speaker 1: icon or budding icon on in Tebow. There was only
Speaker 1: one way you were gonna be able to do that
Speaker 1: and not have blowback. You know. The thing that I
Speaker 1: don't get is that this is you know, take out
Speaker 1: for a second the fact that it's Tim Tebow. Here
Speaker 1: is a starting quarterback in the NFL, his first year
Speaker 1: to start, after getting drafted and getting groomed, and he
Speaker 1: plays really well at times, and he played fantastic at times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes he played poorly. Yeah, but this is a guy
Speaker 1: in his first year as a starter that made big
Speaker 1: plays that one games that won a big home playoff
Speaker 1: game which he threw for three yards and ran for
Speaker 1: fifty more and ran for a touchdown. Why didn't anybody think, well,
Speaker 1: a whole off season as the starter, all the reps,
Speaker 1: why can't he improve because we would say that for
Speaker 1: any other quarterback. Well, look at what he did his
Speaker 1: first Boy, I can't wait and when he's installed as
Speaker 1: a starter and having the whole off season, they can
Speaker 1: work with him now more. And he's the guy. I
Speaker 1: don't understand why nobody thought he could get better now
Speaker 1: it turned out this is this was his peak. But
Speaker 1: I don't get why there was no thought, well, hey,
Speaker 1: Tebow's really something. Now we can work him and really
Speaker 1: turn him into something. There was just no what's done,
Speaker 1: and we're moving on. And I was I was remember,
Speaker 1: I remember going, yeah, but any other guy, we would say, well,
Speaker 1: now let's let's build off of this and let's find
Speaker 1: a way to do it. But nobody wanted to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and look you and it makes sense for what Denver did, Right,
Speaker 1: You've got the opportunity to bring in Peyton Manning assuming
Speaker 1: everything with the neck checked out. You know what he's
Speaker 1: bringing to the table, and you certainly had wide receiver
Speaker 1: weapons and abudding defense that was gonna make it work.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you kick him to the curve. But so
Speaker 1: many other teams. I mean every year we've got nine
Speaker 1: to ten teams playing quarterback roulette, either through some journey
Speaker 1: men as a placeholder and hoping it works or a failure.
Speaker 1: For a comparison, I guess you have the longer view
Speaker 1: and that it's he's had years in the system, but
Speaker 1: you had Jamis Winston that you could have retained in
Speaker 1: Tampa five thousand. You are it's thirty thirty guy. I
Speaker 1: know when you say thirty thirty it kind of kills
Speaker 1: your own argument. But the idea that you had a
Speaker 1: lot of big moments with him and it would have
Speaker 1: been a second year with Bruce arians and instead Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is available, so hey see you, uh again it
Speaker 1: makes sense. But another guy that had to wait his
Speaker 1: time before you ever even found another opportunity. And maybe
Speaker 1: you know, we'll have a great resurrection and a part
Speaker 1: two and you and I'll sit into a special teams
Speaker 1: on the brilliance of Jameis Winston's second act. But Tim
Speaker 1: Tebow it just didn't come. And and there's I guess
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons that it goes to. And we
Speaker 1: talk a lot about going into a camp and competing
Speaker 1: for a job and when you're likely going to spend
Speaker 1: some of your season, if not all of it, on
Speaker 1: the bench, how many teams are built with the stability
Speaker 1: and continuity that you want to bring that in for
Speaker 1: a guy who's going to be a backup. That we
Speaker 1: became one of the biggest talking points I think we
Speaker 1: have had in the decade. So the Broncos signed Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning and now they have something to do with Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1: They wind up training him to the New York Jets
Speaker 1: for a couple of draft picks. And this tells you
Speaker 1: about Tebow and a little bit about Rex Ryan too
Speaker 1: is here's the Jets have the playoff icon and hero
Speaker 1: of the past year, and he can't get on the field.
Speaker 1: He couldn't beat out Mark Sanchez. Okay, he was the
Speaker 1: personal punt protector. They rarely ran place for him because
Speaker 1: the Jets still believed that Mark Sanchez was gonna be really,
Speaker 1: really good and he wasn't. And he winds up leaving
Speaker 1: New York. He wasn't happy with the year he had
Speaker 1: with the Jets there, and he's been out of the
Speaker 1: NFL for a long time. And who knew that that
Speaker 1: game was going to be the pinnacle that he hit
Speaker 1: in his National Football League career. That touchdown passed to
Speaker 1: Marius Thomas was the last great moment he was going
Speaker 1: to have. It's almost as if he came around too early,
Speaker 1: because if he came out of the NFL now, there
Speaker 1: would be some NFL offensive grew that would say, give
Speaker 1: me Tebow. I'm going to build an offense around him.
Speaker 1: And you watch just like the Panthers did with Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: all right, because it was the same deal. Cam Newton
Speaker 1: was a rookie, Hey everything is great and Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: but Cam Newton could throw the football a little bit better,
Speaker 1: with a little bit more accuracy. He would have three
Speaker 1: three fifty games regularly. So, okay, we can build our
Speaker 1: offense around Cam Newton because still running the football, he
Speaker 1: was the same kind of guy running as Tim Tebow was,
Speaker 1: but he was a little bit more accurate throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers built their offense around him, and and for
Speaker 1: nearly a decade. Look how great it was. They got
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl a year with Cam Newton. If
Speaker 1: Tebow came around now, it would be the same thing.
Speaker 1: A team would try to build around him, would try
Speaker 1: to build him throwing the football a little bit better.
Speaker 1: But it was just a little bit too early for him.
Speaker 1: And so this is why he winds up being out
Speaker 1: of the league not too long after he throws that
Speaker 1: big touchdown pass into Marius Thomas. I do dig that
Speaker 1: you got his former teammate at Florida, Cam Newton into discussion.
Speaker 1: You know, a guy who's accuracy wasn't much better than
Speaker 1: Ebos on the grand scale, right, but he had a
Speaker 1: stronger arm could throw it further down the reel. I
Speaker 1: mean that that's what he did. Really didn't have the
Speaker 1: as being a wind up and throw off that back
Speaker 1: foot like crazy. I'm not stepping into a throw and
Speaker 1: getting hit. I'm gonna throw out that back foot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: threw it more on a rope than the big arching
Speaker 1: lollipop that we'd get sometimes from Tebow as you go through.
Speaker 1: I remember going to training camp and watching that Jets
Speaker 1: competition and they'd have the cones out of all right,
Speaker 1: stay within the tackles basically, and he was terrible. It was,
Speaker 1: it was just awesome. And then they'd say, all right,
Speaker 1: take the cones out, we're gonna run full elevens and
Speaker 1: he would scramble enough to where he'd be break contain
Speaker 1: mitt and to be able to make a play and
Speaker 1: find a guy down field or you know, run for
Speaker 1: a bunch of yards, you know what, whatever drills they
Speaker 1: were doing. But it was frustrating, you know, and you
Speaker 1: could see it on his face. It's just not it's
Speaker 1: not clicking right because it's like, all right, want you know,
Speaker 1: but it might as well out of the twelve in
Speaker 1: Mississippi and he still wasn't getting rid of the football. So,
Speaker 1: you know, difficulty in reading those situations. So eventually, you know,
Speaker 1: he did show up as a member of the Patriots
Speaker 1: for a minute, so got that. Yeah it was it
Speaker 1: was a minute. It was long enough to get a
Speaker 1: trading card produced, so you got that. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: one of those fascinating things we talked about players being
Speaker 1: a little bit of ahead of their time or wondering
Speaker 1: if they've gotten a second chance. Uh, you know the
Speaker 1: old sliding doors thing, you know, taking up the old
Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow movie. There you go, there's my nerd moment
Speaker 1: of pop culture. But you know it, had he been
Speaker 1: able to get with a coordinator that wanted to work,
Speaker 1: even if he never became a sixty five percent completion
Speaker 1: guy on quick hitch and and quick outs, I mean,
Speaker 1: couldn't have worked for a few years while he was
Speaker 1: still such a bulldozer and the run game. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm a little aware, are they now from this game
Speaker 1: nearly a decade later? Let's get it on. Yeah, you've
Speaker 1: got Daniel Fells. He went through the entrepreneurship program at
Speaker 1: Stanford and works for Applied Silver. So they're researching how
Speaker 1: to treat and cure infectious diseases. Well, that's very important
Speaker 1: how about that. And most of time he also spends
Speaker 1: a lot of time helping raises two kids. So that's good.
Speaker 1: You've got Dante Rosario. He's a recruiter at Amazon time.
Speaker 1: Pretty good time for him right now. Might have to
Speaker 1: look him up. You know, he wants He once scored
Speaker 1: a touchdown. I think it was for the Chargers that
Speaker 1: won a game, and I think it was on CBS,
Speaker 1: and you know, he scores a touchdown and they like
Speaker 1: they go to break and come back and they have
Speaker 1: like the the recap of the game on you know
Speaker 1: what happened here, you know, and and Dante Rosario, you know,
Speaker 1: touchdown win the game, except that you know was blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. Here's the status. There was Rosario Dawson, you know,
Speaker 1: todown reception that in I'm like, Rosario Dawson. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it got you to think about Rosario Dawson, and you
Speaker 1: know that that's not bad. All right. We got Andre
Speaker 1: Goodman does some real estate work, but he's the director
Speaker 1: of Player Personnel uh in the for the University of
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Speaker 1: then Kwan Cosby. He does risk management just like George
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Speaker 1: you go. He was a kick returner for the squad.
Speaker 1: And of course I mentioned all those guys that would
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