1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug Gottlieb. 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: What Up Doug Gottlieb Show and the Bonus Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: iHeart REDEO app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. So if you 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: listen to the radio show, you know we talked a 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: lot about Mike Brown be the next head coach, head 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: coach of the Knicks. It's interesting. We get some other 8 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: good stuff for you, but I wanted to start with 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: a story that it's it's really made waves on social media. 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: It's one that I had somebody had texted me about. 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: But I you know, it's like you get so many 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: texts in a day, and I had a lot of 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: stuff going on yesterday that I didn't pay attention. But 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: our group text for this show. Suddenly I think, Sam, 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: you started kind of focusing on it, and I was like, oh, 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: we got to talk about this. So okay. Jake Rhetz 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: laugh was the coach. It was the quarterback at b YU. 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: We had him on the show. First ever Jewish football 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: player at BUYU quarterback and had a great year for 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: the Cougars. What's the story. 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: So Jake Rhet's laugh. 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 4: Uh, sometime last year was accused by women of some 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: pretty grizzly things rape, strangulation, I believe, you know. And 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 4: and basically he was he was in trouble twofold. He 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 4: was in trouble with a lawsuit that came his way 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 4: accusing him of rape and through the school. Obviously BYU 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 4: has like the Mormon perspective, so honor code, honor code, 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 4: they frown on pre marital sex, so he doesn't. 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: Count on it. You're you have to sign an honor code, 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: right and you have to say that I Am not 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: going to have alcohol, drugs, alcohol, pre marital sex while 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm a student at BUYU. 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: So in summary, he was accused of violating all of that. 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: The the actually the rape lawsuit was dismissed yesterday or 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: in the last few days. But he's still If he 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: had stayed at BYU, he would have had to he 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: would have still been in violation of the honor code 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: having premiatal sex he said his consensual and he would 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 4: have had to sit out seven games. So he's in 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: the transfer portal. Now he's leaving, and you know, we 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 4: go to I shared you with you guys. A tweet 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: from the great message board geniuses. They take some of 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: these wacky ideas from fans and they amplify them, they 45 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 4: make fun of them. Basically, Jake, this person on message 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 4: boards message board geniuses was saying that Jake Retz laugh 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: was just a small cog, a small act in a 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: grander scheme for Utah Utes football to topple BYU football 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: in the state of Utah. And I'll just read this here. 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: So this is a message board genius. This is their 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: little caption that go urgent. It appears that Utah hashtag 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: Utah has sent an army of skanks to provo please 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 4: be alert and use caution. And this person's person on 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: a BYU message, uh, they said, uh, you know this 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: is this the you talking about Utah Utes. The U 56 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: is like the Soviet Union. One of the one of 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: the KGB's most developed schemes was the Honeypot. Many many 58 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: blackmail wins for them on that front during the Cold War. 59 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 4: It appears in the Brave New World of Tampering, the 60 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: Utes are going to employ similar schemes. B b YU 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: needs to inform its athletes that there are Ute co 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 4: ed's on the loose. They'll give you a venereal disease 63 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: and an honor code violation. My guess is what little 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: war chest Harlan has is going to go all in 65 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: on developing an army of skanks that will prowl around Provo. 66 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: So Jake Raetz laugh fell victim to uh, I guess 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: the alleged skanks on the loose in Provo tempting him 68 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: and getting him into some trouble uh with with the 69 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: with the school and his own We know that? 70 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: Do we know that to be true? 71 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: What what I just read? 72 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: Yes? 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: No, I have no idea. It's message board. 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable message board fodder. It's the most diabolical shit 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: you've ever heard. Right, we sent it. We sent a 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: chick to go sleep with the BYU quarterbacks so he 77 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: get kicked out of school. 78 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: We sent fluozies from the University of Utah up to 79 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: Provo to tempt our quarterbacks, our players who are living 80 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: by an honor code that must not be violated. And 81 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: it's it's all an attempt to topple BYU football. I mean, 82 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: the the the the harsh feelings between those two schools 83 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: are real, are real. 84 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: They go back, they go back generations. 85 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is it's that that part to it is okay, 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: so Chase do we Here's how I view these stories. 87 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: I don't know it's true, but I believe that there's 88 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: gotta be some truth in it, right, There's got to 89 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: be some sort of truth in it. Again, I don't 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: know if the woman he slept with is really a 91 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: plant from the University of Utah, but God, I wanted 92 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: to believe it's true because it just makes for a 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: better story. We root for great content, don'tly that's great content, 94 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: even if I also feel bad like Jaj's WRTT, Like, 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: I know he's not supposed to violate the Honor Code, 96 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: but I feel bad for him because I mean, it's 97 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: one thing to violate on our code. It's hardly to 98 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: be accused of some heinous rape situation which you didn't do, 99 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: while also violating the honor Code that you don't really 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: have to abide by, you know, in your own mind, 101 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: because you're like, well, I'm not Mormon, even though you 102 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: did sign the paper, regardless, you're not your Mormon. 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to dismiss the woman's allegations, you know, 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: I do who We don't know, Doug, We don't know 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 4: no she has. 106 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: He was never charged with a crime, and this civil 107 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: case has been dismissed, so there's no crime. We can 108 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: dismiss any allegations. 109 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: Sure, I'll buy I got you on that part. 110 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: Again, Like all we can go by is the district attorney. 111 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: And I continue to say this, there is not a 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: high bar for a civil case and for a criminal 113 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: case there's a higher bar. But it didn't cross any 114 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: of those two bars. And so yeah, there we can 115 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 2: dismiss any claim like line kakua level, but it's close. 116 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 4: The amount of proof to uh, the amount of proof 117 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: to decide in someone's favor is smaller, right in a 118 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: civil case. 119 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: Looks like Dan Byer wants to weigh in. Dan Bayer 120 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: came in pressing for the show, and yeah, this is 121 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 3: just not getting my ears right. 122 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 5: And I know everything about message board geniuses, follow them 123 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: as well. I just want to say this because I 124 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: don't want anybody to get in the spot. And Doug, 125 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: I know what you're saying. With civil cases and whatnot. 126 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: It would be one thing if there was a Utah 127 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 5: group that said, look, this girl just goes around and 128 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: sleeps with all these BYU players to make them ineligible 129 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 5: to violate the honor Code. Completely different when you bring 130 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 5: rape in to the equation. So there was the allegation 131 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 5: of that. Now Doug as you know with who is 132 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 5: the basketball player and Saim maybe even you remember from 133 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 5: years back that ended up having premarital sex and was 134 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 5: kicked off the team. Like this is that is one 135 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 5: thing because of the violation of the honor Code. But 136 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 5: when you bring it in the rape allegation in whether 137 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: it be criminal or civil, I think we're at a 138 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 5: different level. 139 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm down there. Brandon Davies was his name, Yes, yes, exactly. 140 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: And the crazy part about it is, I think again, 141 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: maybe we could maybe we could look. I'm pretty sure 142 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: Brandon Davey ended up marrying the woman who he admitted 143 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: to sleeping with who I don't know if she was 144 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 2: on the volleyball team. Like they've been married ever since. 145 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: So it was a crazy thing. He got kicked off 146 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: the team in the NCA term when they had Jay, 147 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: when they had Jimmer fordet because he had premarital sex. 148 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: I remember that. 149 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: So that's just like that would be one level. But 150 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: when it like that, this is not that And I 151 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 5: think that's the point of the message board is that 152 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 5: look at how ridiculous or the whole point of message 153 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: board geniuses is to say, look at how ridiculous. 154 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: Some of these theories are. Yes, and that was that 155 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: was ended up being one of them. 156 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: It's a funny. It's a funny, ridiculous thing. And yeah, 157 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not trying to dismiss the seriousness of 158 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: if actual rape had occurred. I'm it's just this person 159 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: put this out there. And maybe this person was just 160 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: trolling us and having a good time, or they might 161 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: believe it. But either way, it's just ridiculous and absurd 162 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: and funny. 163 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: It is ridiculous, it is absurd, it is funny. It's 164 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: all of those things I have. 165 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: I have just one the only thing I keep thinking 166 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 3: about with this story every time it comes up, and 167 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: I haven't been able to say it on the air, 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: and I could. I'm free to say it here, which 169 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: is great. So just could you confirm a couple of 170 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: things Sam, as you walk away from the microphone. The 171 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: quarterback is Jewish? Yes, it's correct. Quarterback is Jewish. And 172 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: he was going to be why you Church of Latter 173 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: day Saints. You know there's a conflict there the only thing, 174 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: the only question I have is does b why you 175 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: have uh an issue with uncircumcised penises? 176 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: You do know that Jewish people are the ones that 177 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: have their peace is circumcised. First? 178 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so let's issue. You actually got circumcised. 179 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: You actually got you actually got that one in reverse? 180 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 2: Did you know that? 181 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: No? No, so Jewish Jewish people do believe in circumcision. 182 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they were like we were the first, We 183 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: were the first ones. 184 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got the exact opposite. Yes, are you 185 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: going off the Friends episode? I think? So, okay, that's 186 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: what I thought. Why did I think that the Jewish 187 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: guys keep their keep their stuff uncut? 188 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: No, we don't do tartlenicks. 189 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 4: I was gonna say. I think everybody at Bou, including 190 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 4: Ret's laugh all, has no turtle neck. I just probably 191 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: no turtal. It's very hot. That's not that's not true. 192 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 193 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: That's just my guess that that's again, that's a completely 194 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: uneducated guess. 195 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: Well, they are, they are. They do echo or reflect 196 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: some things from Christianity. So right, Christianity Mormonism are two 197 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: different things. But I think that some of the customs are. 198 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: Christianity is not is not necessarily pro circumcision. It's not 199 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: usually euro guy euro guy is Yeah, it's actually a 200 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: rabbi performed a moile performs the circumcision. We were the 201 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: first to get circumcised. I and you're not the first 202 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: one that's gotten this butchered this thing. Actually my yes, 203 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: my my ex fye Angie, when she was in college, 204 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: she had friends ask that exact same question. Of course 205 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: they were dumb ass sorority girls. But nonetheless that's the 206 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: window you fall into. It has been asked before. Just 207 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: so we're clear, Jewish Men, we were the first ones, okay, 208 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: to get the cut. It's very much. That's how you 209 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: could tell if somebody was Jewish. 210 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: It's very hot in that portion of the world, and 211 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: wearing turtlenecks is just too hot. 212 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: It's just too hot. So who am I confusing it with? 213 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: Who's against circumcision? 214 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: Uh? European Christians? Yeah, Muslims. 215 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of Christians. 216 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: Though Muslims do not circumcise, all right, right, No. 217 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: They definitely don't, but a lot of Christians in yes, 218 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: it may be more like continent based, but I feel 219 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: like a lot of Christians do get circumcised. 220 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: Oh in the United States, I mean super high. You 221 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: know it's done right there at birth. But again it's 222 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: not a religious ceremony, and it's a religious ceremony in 223 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: the in the temple. 224 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: All right. 225 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: Well, see, you guys learned something. It's okay. 226 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 227 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 228 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app Let's. 229 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: Get to the Foxes and Now every day at this 230 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: time in the Votus podcast played for your previous portion 231 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: of Fox Sports Trider Fox Sports One Show, here's Colin Cowherd, 232 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: host of the talking about Kaitlyn Clark. 233 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 6: Caitlyn Clark finished ninth in player voting. In fact, she 234 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 6: finished behind one of her own teammates in player voting. 235 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 6: The pettiness has no bounds. For years, the WNBA players 236 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 6: were pointing fingers. They were saying people are sexist, we're 237 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 6: not being promoted, we're underappreciated. And then they get the 238 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 6: Golden Goose and they don't like what it looks like 239 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 6: when the wave hits right it. They wanted to fly private, 240 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 6: they wanted to be more popular. They wanted sold out 241 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 6: arenas they got it. I wouldn't have guessed that Caitlin 242 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 6: Clark would be this transformative. 243 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 7: Don't fight it. 244 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: I do think we've reached the point to where it's 245 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: so clownish the behavior towards Kaitlyn Clark that it actually 246 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: makes Caitlin Clark more popular because I think last year, 247 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: I think not having gone on tm USA was a 248 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 2: massive mistake in terms of global popularity. But whatever. Like again, 249 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: can't go back and fix that. But the more this happens, 250 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: the more it empowers people to like Oh, because we 251 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: are a nation of Contrians, right, we constantly want conspiracy theories. 252 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: We have a president who's told us that the news 253 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: is all fake, no matter how substantial it is. And 254 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: I think we like a lot of people's popularity is 255 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: just because they're unpopular in some form of fashion. I 256 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: think that's Caitlin Clark. Now I think she's reached that point. 257 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: It hurt her popularity on a global scale, and now 258 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 2: it's actually helping her popularity but hurting the popularity of 259 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: the league. Here's the Patrick Tuck with the Knicks contacting 260 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: Don Staley about the head coaching job. 261 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 8: They reached out to Don Staley, South Carolina head coach. 262 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 8: I'm sure she was flattered by that. But if I'm 263 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 8: Don Staley, I don't take the Knicks job. You got 264 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 8: a great situation there with South Carolina. Now, could it 265 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 8: be one of those landmark decisions where you want to 266 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 8: coach the Knicks coach in the NBA? Yeah, I thought 267 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 8: Becky Hammond's was going to get the San Antonio Spurs 268 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 8: job a couple of years ago. I thought Pop would 269 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 8: step to the side and allow that to happen. But 270 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 8: I don't know if Don Staley, you know, Don Staley runs, 271 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 8: She runs the ship there in South Carolina, you lose control. 272 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 8: A lot of these coaches can't coach in the NBA 273 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 8: because their control freaks. In college, you get to control, 274 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 8: or at least you used to be able to control everything. 275 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 8: And if I'm Don Staley, as much as I'd love 276 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 8: to be that first, I don't know if I want 277 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 8: to deal with the NBA. You know you had j 278 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 8: right at Villanova. He wasn't interested in the Knicks coach 279 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 8: k flirted with the Lakers years ago. You know Danny Hurley, 280 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 8: Danny Hurley is not suited for the NBA IQ wise, 281 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 8: he is, but temperament dealing with these guys go ballistic 282 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 8: if they lose five games. 283 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I don't think of that in 284 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: any way. I think Dan's perception of it there's some 285 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: truth to it, because obviously he's covered and knows the league. 286 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: But Don Staley would It's not about control. I don't 287 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: think coaching in college appeals to people because control. What 288 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: appeals to Don Staley about college basketball is she has 289 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: better players than ninety five percent of the teams that 290 00:15:54,400 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: she plays against. You know, and you know she's a powerful, 291 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: powerful voice. When you get to the NBA, very few 292 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: teams can say we have substantially better talent than the opponent. 293 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: You may be slightly better at one place, you may 294 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: have better time, you may may be at a talent disadvantage. 295 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: The coaching and the players are better than any place. 296 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: Is it with this without his challenge, it's not. But 297 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: she also like she makes I don't know, four malliaear 298 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: you coach the next. You can make ten maniaire so 299 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: and you're coach the next. I don't think that the 300 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: the call to Don Staley was legitimate, Like they really 301 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: wanted to hire her. I think that's part of what 302 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: the NBA has pushed for probably a decade now. Right, 303 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: there's a woman on every staff, and some of them 304 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: have shown themselves to be really, really good. Some of 305 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: them have not, but it is part of how they 306 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: want to optically look. And she's the most or one 307 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: of the two most successful coaches in female basket in 308 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: women's basketball, Geno being the other. And so it's a 309 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: smart called plus if you know anything, Like I wonder 310 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: if Leon Reptor before he became the president, so there's 311 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 2: a pre existing relationship there. But if the New York 312 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: Knicks want to hire you and you're the coach of 313 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: South Carolina game Cocks and you didn't play at South Carolina, 314 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: they just gave you an opportunity, and you've won a 315 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: national championship and you make more money than anybody else, 316 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: she would have taken that job regards of whether or 317 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: not the NBA is not the easiest coach to league 318 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: to coach in the world. But do you think coach 319 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: coaching and women's college basketball is easy? You know, here's 320 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: a woman who had taken South Carolina to being the 321 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: best team, winning a national championship, being dominant, and when 322 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: they got pasted a couple times this year, plenty of 323 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: people came out of the woodwork. 324 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: If the dog there's a question the needs an answer, 325 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: and the answer is if only there was someone with 326 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: the authority and the wisdom to give us that answer. 327 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule. 328 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: Hold on, let's ask the coach. 329 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: Hey, Doug, you're uniquely qualified to answer this question that 330 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: I just thought of. This is actually a really good topic. 331 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: What do you think, as you've played at a high 332 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: level and now you've coached a D one program, what 333 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 3: do you think don Stally's first hurdle would be if 334 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: she were to coach an NBA team. Would the gender 335 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: thing be the first hurdle? Or is there is it 336 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: go more nuanced than that. 337 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think it the gender thing 338 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: would be a hurdle. Look, the NBA is about respect. 339 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 2: It's about respect, right, everything's about respect. How people guard 340 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: you is about respect, how they handle you is about respect. 341 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: And for coaches, in order to get the respect of 342 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: the players, you had to have coached in the league, 343 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: and hopefully one in the league or showing the players 344 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: at some other time that you know what you're doing 345 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: and then they buy in. That's kind of any level. 346 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: I just don't know the level of respect people would 347 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: have despite her immense amount of success in women's basketball, 348 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: and then you get to the the gender issue of it, 349 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: and I think it'd be a bit of a circus. 350 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, it's like it's like one of 351 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: those things. It's really hard to go, like, hey, we 352 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: ran this in at South Carolina and women's basketball. It's 353 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: just the level of athlete is so different. The spacing 354 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: is different, the skill level is so much better. It 355 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that they don't run some of the same actions, 356 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 2: but it's it's a different sport. It doesn't mean she 357 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: couldn't do it. But you asked what the first hurdle 358 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: would be, I think it would be the respect factor. 359 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: And it's not just about the fact that she's a woman. 360 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 2: It's about the level that she's coached at it. 361 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: Because there was a movie made when Whoopi Goldberg was 362 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: acting career. Yeah, they hired a fan off the street, Eddie, 363 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: and a championship Doug. 364 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 4: There were cameos and I think Donald Trump was in 365 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: that movie. I think he made a Cameo cut out there. 366 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, no, Billy Crystal was the co star, 367 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: wasn't he? Was it Billy Crystal a ref? 368 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a ref. 369 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: I wan't say he's a ref. Yeah, I seen that one. 370 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: I don't hate it, but I don't love it, and 371 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: I don't think again. You just here's the thing. If 372 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna fire Tom Thibodeau, you better hire somebody who's 373 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: done better in the playoff. That's where the Mike Brown 374 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: thing leaves you scratch your head. Not because Mike Brown 375 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: is not awesome, dude, Like I know Mike, he's awesome, 376 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: but his teams have not done well in the playoffs, 377 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 2: with exception of I think what his Lebron one team 378 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: went to the Eastern Conference finals, right, I think he 379 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 2: had won that went to the Eastern Coals. So I 380 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: don't know, but but he was part of He was 381 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: also part of the Warriors when they won a championship 382 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: one year. So here's Rob Parker and kelvin Washington, the 383 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: odd couple talking about Giannis and Dame. 384 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 9: And this makes it where it's more palatable easier to 385 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 9: take spoonful of medas sugar with the medicine to go 386 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 9: down easier for the fans, so he can say, hey, 387 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 9: I try, but look at the moves. Even you would 388 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 9: be mad if you were me to the fans. And 389 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 9: I think he's seeing also the stuff that's happened around 390 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 9: the NBA. He's seen the Rockets getting better. He seeing 391 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 9: the Nuggets getting better, He's seeing the Hawks getting better. 392 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 9: He's seeing some other teams make moves. And I think 393 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 9: he's like, I got to get out of here. This 394 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 9: is my chance to do so because you mentioned it. 395 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 9: Listen him. I disagree with you totally. I think you've 396 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 9: totally misread this, okay, And I think totally I think 397 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 9: this is his way of being like he he has 398 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 9: his hands on it. 399 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? 400 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: This is getting rid of Dame? 401 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 7: Yes, Damian Lillard in Milwaukee. 402 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: Was a bust. It didn't work. 403 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 7: It didn't work from day one. It never worked. And 404 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 7: the whole idea that he's not gonna play next year, 405 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 7: having him on a team where he's coming back from 406 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 7: an injury and not playing, that's not gonna help Giannis. 407 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 7: The only way that they did this is because and 408 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 7: they're willing to eat all of this money for Yannis. 409 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 7: He ain't going nowhere. He signed off on this. 410 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would say there's a couple of 411 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: different parts to it. First thing is I actually agree 412 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: with Rob here. I'm not a like. From this point forward, 413 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: Damian Lillard's star head started to the shine, it started 414 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: to wear off of it. It doesn't mean you don't 415 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: want him on your team, but you have no idea 416 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: what his role is going to be when he comes back. Right, 417 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: You're talking mid thirties, undersized, offensive minded guard who doesn't defend, 418 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: doesn't finish at the rim great, and is very likely 419 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: to be a slightly lesser athlete than he was, not 420 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: just because of age, but because he's coming off and 421 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: to kill his tendon. I even think for teams that 422 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 2: sign him, do I like the idea of signing him 423 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: when he sits for a year, so it pushes them. 424 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: He's around a team he can be, he can he 425 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: can get to the culture of it. Like. Yeah, but 426 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: I also don't know what he's gonna look like when 427 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: he comes back or how effective he'll be. That's what 428 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: the Fox said. 429 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: Say. Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug 430 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 431 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 432 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: Let's find out who what's annoying, Jason Stewart. 433 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying? 434 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, deserve congratulations. They won the Commissioner's Cup. 435 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 2: What is that? 436 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: The mid season w NBA Cup? And we got to 437 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: see what's her face? What's the new fever name? Blonde? Oh? 438 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: Sophie? 439 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 3: You mean Sophie. Sophie's stunning, Sophie stunning. Afterwards they're celebrating 440 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: like they want a title, w NBA Commissioner's Cup, Old 441 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: Kathy's Cup. It takes a lot to get me excited 442 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: about the actual championship. I just thinking about right now. 443 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: I don't even know who won the championship last fall, 444 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: so I don't know how excited we should be about 445 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: the Commissioner's Cup. 446 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is is uh what's the what's 447 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 2: the NBA Cup called? Do we know? 448 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 3: I think it's called the Commissioner's Cup. 449 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: They have a Commissioner's Cup too, Yeah, I don't know. 450 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: It did give us Sophie Kenningham Twerking, So I kind 451 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: of think that's a win for America. Not gonna lie. 452 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 4: They did get I do get five hundred thousand dollars 453 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 4: and for someone earning a w NBA salary, I know 454 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: that they do endorse. Yeah, five hunred thousand dollars distributed to 455 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: the team. I hope Kaylyn Clarks and she didn't play, 456 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 4: gave her portion away to her teammates. But you know 457 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: there's something at stake there, you know, especially for making 458 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: like ninety thousand a year in the WNBA. 459 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, I actually think you kind of nail 460 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: it that. You know, if you if you do five 461 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 2: hundred thousand to a WNBA player. 462 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: Well it's split amongst the team. Yeah, how many rights? 463 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 9: No? 464 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: I know, but again like that actually, like you said, 465 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: that actually means something. Whereas the NBA players, they're so 466 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: priced out of anything meaningful it's kind of dumb. 467 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: And do I hear you? Right? You saw reporting that 468 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark gave her share to no. No, I was 469 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: just saying she should since she didn't play. She's already 470 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: got million. 471 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: Because that's what Sam does. Sam's giving away other people's money. 472 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 4: That's right, That's right. Yeah, I'm just saying she could 473 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 4: do it. It'd be a nice gesture she could have 474 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 4: to do. 475 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the other side to it, Sam, is if 476 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: we're honest, people don't care at all about the Commissioner's Cup. 477 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: They definitely wouldn't care, and maybe the pot wouldn't be 478 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: that big if it wasn't for Kaitlyn Clark. 479 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. 480 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was a couple of years ago, 481 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 4: or if it even exists a few years ago. But 482 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 4: you know that half a million dollars spread out to 483 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 4: a team kind of like the basketball tournament, how they 484 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: would go for a million. 485 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: That's a nice little payday, nice little bonus think about. 486 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: I mean, Sam's just making up news. So I'm going 487 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: to go with it about the the pr that she 488 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: would get if she did that, because it probably is 489 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: just a low percentage of her income. Yes, and she 490 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 3: would not only draw a love from her teammates, fur 491 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: their love, but the people that hated Caitlin Clark would 492 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: hate her even more. You know, they would just like 493 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 3: this would be something for them to be like, roll 494 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: my eyes. Not another great thing about this? Check? Oh man, 495 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: I need somebody in her inner circle needs to get 496 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: to her do that and make make that point of leaking. 497 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 2: It friends with her boyfriend, I can. 498 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 3: Please, Oh, my God and honor boys. 499 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: I mean, his dad recruited me an other days, kind 500 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 2: of a fatherlike figure to me. 501 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 3: So so you covered this on the radio show yesterday 502 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: and I just I googled it and I wanted to 503 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 3: get the details you had said that Stephen A. Smith 504 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 3: admitted out loud that he's looking forward to having less 505 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 3: NBA responsibilities next year. This was his exact quote to 506 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 3: the boardroom inside. The NBA is coming here, and nobody 507 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 3: can be happier than me, not just because those guys 508 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: are great, but it gives me what I believe to 509 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 3: be well earned relief. It's been a long time. I've 510 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 3: been covering the NBA for thirty years, and I'm going 511 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 3: to get somewhat of a reprieve to some degree in 512 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: that regard. Blah blah, blah blah. I can't believe the 513 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 3: balls on this guy, like you talk about unprofessional. If 514 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: I'm a somebody of any influence in ESPN's you know, hierarchy, 515 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: and I read them, my talent is saying out loud 516 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: what we saw with our own two eyes during the playoffs, 517 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: which is he's thoroughly bored with the NBA. Not only 518 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: do they do they have the rights to the NBA. 519 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 3: They pay a whole lot of money to it, and 520 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: their top talent that they paid ten million bucks a 521 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: year or two was acting like he was bored with it, 522 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 3: and then he confirms it in a quote to the 523 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: boardroom after the season, like the balls on this guy. 524 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: If anybody paid me ten million dollars to do anything, 525 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: I could never even come to the point where I 526 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: could admit something like this out loud. 527 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's the crazy thing. Is of the 528 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: things that he should go want to cut back on, 529 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: that's not it right now. I actually understand like his 530 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: true value where he is irreplaceable to ESPN. The reason 531 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: that they acquiesced and paid him all that money is 532 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: first take. Right Without him, there is no first take, 533 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: especially with Shannon being literally unhirable. I think that that 534 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: before they had to, you know, put Shannon on on ice. 535 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: My guess was their plan was to let him walk 536 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: and replace him with Shannon. But Shannon becomes unhiable, so, uh, 537 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: you know, I I actually would agree with the Hey, 538 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: you know, first take is my baby, That's my show. 539 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: Anything else is is sugar on top of it. Uh. 540 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: And you know, I think they also bought up his podcast, 541 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: you know, because they think there's value there. But it's 542 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: the why are you saying this out loud? Especially after 543 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: signing a contract? That is it's a little bit like, uh, 544 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: what's what's our guy with the Angels to won that 545 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: won the World's Series with the Nationals, who's been the 546 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: bane of our existence? 547 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, what kind I think of his name? Ren 548 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: Don Rendon? 549 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a little rendon on you, Right, you 550 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: get the big contract and then you're like, yeah, I 551 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: really like doing this. 552 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: It's the what are they going to do? Fire me mentality? 553 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: I've already signed the contract. I could say something very 554 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 3: disrespectful to the craft and they can't do anything to me. 555 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: But the crazy thing, though, is like we we should 556 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: have seen this coming, at least you and I saw 557 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: this coming. But yeah, it's really it's really interesting. Everyone 558 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: else has reached their limit and had too much. Stephen A, 559 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: steven A has reached his limit, and yet they keep 560 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: putting him out on our. 561 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: Television like awful announcing. I've already quoted them, but they 562 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: had a brilliant headline to a story about steven A 563 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: during the playoffs America shouldn't have to suffer through Steven 564 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: A's boredom of the NBA. It is such a brilliant headline, 565 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: and it was true. Like every time he started talking 566 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: about the NBA, You're like, it's like he's kind of 567 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: like half glancing at his phone, you know, seeing if 568 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: he's getting a text from Chris Cuomo to come on 569 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: and talk shit about the Democrats or something like. It 570 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: was just this distracted nature to everything he said, and 571 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: then he confirms it to the boardroom. It's amazing that 572 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 3: he could do that. But anyways, so the reading of 573 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: the teleprompter. I'm ramping this up for you because I 574 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: know you have thoughts. So Travis Kelcey was on some 575 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: podcasts and he said that his the time that he 576 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: was a guest on SNL went a little rough, especially 577 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 3: during the monologue, because he can't read very well and 578 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: the teleprompter is really hard. So you tell the story 579 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: all the time about the time that you filled in 580 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: for Jim Romans burning, Yeah. 581 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: But I don't think I told the story about about 582 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: my first time reading teleprompter. There's video out there somewhere. 583 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: So two thousand, I graduated from college. I play in 584 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: the NBA Summer League. I played in the USBL, the 585 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: NBA USBL, then get married, play in the NBA Summer League, 586 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: actually Summer League, then married. I was supposed to play overseas, 587 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: and I got cut from my team in Italy because 588 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't get in ISRAELI passport unless I lived in 589 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: Israel for a year. I didn't want to live in 590 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: Israel for a year. I played that year as an American. Anyway, 591 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: I come back, I go to the CBA, beat out 592 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: thirteen guys, and then I get cut the day before 593 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: the season starts. So I'm in Oklahoma and I'm filling 594 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: in local radio and I got a chance to do 595 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: an audition at I think it's the CBS station in Tulsa. 596 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: Al Jerkins was the sports director. It was kind of 597 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: as a favor, but you know, I was a name, 598 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: and so they needed like a third guy the sports department. 599 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: So he's like, come in after ten o'clock news, we'll 600 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: have you do an audition. We'll throw you on camera. 601 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: So he throw me on camera and yeah, he's like, 602 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: I want you to read this teleprompter and you know, 603 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: you throw it to the highlight. I'd never done it 604 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: before in my life, and somewhere there's a tape that 605 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: exists only that I didn't. I didn't write it, so yeah, 606 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: I read it over once and then read it live 607 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: on teleprompter. I was horrific. Then fast forward to what 608 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: year was it that Lebron left and went to the heat. 609 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: I want to say that's like two thousand and ten. Yep, 610 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: I was guest hosting Roma's Burning I think in two 611 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: thousand and nine, and yeah, it's six minutes straight of 612 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 2: prompter sixtrame administrative prompter that's written by somebody else. And 613 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: to say I was good, And then I like, hey, 614 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: can you take the romanisms? Can you take the vocab? 615 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: Can you take the vocab off of this? You know, 616 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 2: A rauncha senchez pecario, a raunchy chick from the barrio, right, 617 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: That was back when they did nicknames. That was probably 618 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: my favorite one. Uh yeah, it's it's not easy if 619 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 2: you haven't done it before. It's like you get done, 620 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: you're like, maybe I can't read. That's that's what you 621 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: end up thinking. 622 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: Well, it's just not your trained skill set, like I 623 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 3: if you know, at Calcay Fortune we had a TV station. 624 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 3: Most broadcast programs in college have TV stations. If your 625 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: aspiration is to be a TV broadcaster, like you could 626 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: get your reps, but you just you didn't take that path. 627 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 3: So I could see we're reading the teleprompter to you 628 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: or Travis Kelce or anybody would be especially early on 629 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: in your career, would be it's a skill set. It's 630 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 3: a it's something that when. 631 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 4: It's a learned skill, it it takes porn with because 632 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 4: you have to it's moving along. 633 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's age, right, but you also need to have 634 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: somebody who you need to learn. You got to write 635 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: yourself or somebody who writes has to understand the the 636 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: way in which you speak, right that that that is 637 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: part of it as well. So there's there's layer two 638 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: layers to it. But yeah, it's a it is definitely 639 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: a learned skill. It's not something you're born with, or 640 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 2: at least I wasn't born with it. 641 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: By the way, side, note, I'm watching the Rays beat 642 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: up on the A's right now, and I was thinking 643 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: recently about a classic romeism. So we used to refer 644 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: to Sacramento as Sacramento. So I'm I'm gonna start calling 645 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna put my own twist on it. The rays 646 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: right now are up six to two over the Sacramental ass. 647 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 3: If I if I coin that, nobody else could use it. 648 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: The Sacramental ass. 649 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can use that one. I'll stay away from it. 650 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: You can use it. 651 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: Reading a teleprompter. Steven A just openly admitting that he's 652 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: bored with the NBA, and then the Commissioner's cup and 653 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark needs to give away your money, m. 654 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: Am, I allowed to tell the real story of the teleprompter? 655 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: Or or do I have to leave it on the 656 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: Do I have to leave that one in the cutting 657 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 2: room floor? 658 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 3: Which one? 659 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,959 Speaker 2: What I learned about Rome? 660 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 8: Oh? 661 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: Yeah? Whatever? Yeah, leave that, leave that, leave that alone. 662 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 3: You can read that a while. 663 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say 664 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 2: the teleprompter's annoying. And here's why. Again, I don't think 665 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: he's he was ever the best TV personality, and there's 666 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 2: lots of stuff that I disagree with in his life. 667 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: But have you ever seen the YouTube clips of Al 668 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: Sharpton versus the teleprompter? No? 669 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 3: But that sounds wonderful. 670 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm gonna give people a rabbit hole to 671 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: go down. I'll talk to you in about ten minutes. 672 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 2: The next time, you get ten minutes and you want 673 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: to feel either bad about the fact that you weren't 674 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: on TV because this guy was, or you just want 675 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: to laugh at somebody who quite obviously cannot read a teleprompter. 676 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: I want you to google Al Sharpton versus a teleprompter. 677 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 2: You're welcome. Meanwhile, teleprompters are annoyed. 678 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: Why are we doing this because we can? 679 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: So I found this. Kevin Garnett was on his podcast 680 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: with Paul Pierce, and I don't even really care what 681 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 3: Kevin Garnett talks about. I just really I laugh at 682 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: what he says. And he can't go like three words 683 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 3: without cussing. So they were talking about Kevin Durant and 684 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 3: the criticism that he's not a vocal leader, and Kevin 685 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: Durant or Kevin Garnett started saying. 686 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 10: This, it's all intentional. It's all from a great place 687 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 10: when we are being leaders. Some leaders like like my 688 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 10: dog here, he gonna go out and you gonna see 689 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 10: him just working. Then you're gonna see him go do waste, 690 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 10: and then you gonna see him playing one on one 691 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 10: and then he didn't, and you're just gonna be seeing him. 692 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: Doing, doing, doing, doing doing. 693 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 10: He ain't gonna say shit, right, And if you ain't 694 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 10: on that same time, it'll do something to you because 695 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 10: it'll because he coming through it. You know, Hey, get 696 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 10: out the way. 697 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm right here. 698 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying. If you ain't on that 699 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 10: same energy and you ain't soaking that up, guess what, 700 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 10: man you behind because everybody in here trying to get it, 701 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. But you see a motherfucker 702 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 10: come here. He first in here, he on the ladder, 703 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 10: then off the ladder, he lift the waist, then he 704 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 10: doing something with the trainer. Then also he doing. Bro, 705 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 10: Paul ain't gotta say shit. Paul's doing it. So Kate 706 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 10: is on that same shit. Bro, I ain't gotta say shit. 707 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 2: Why I canna play for you? Because we can't. That's 708 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 2: it for the In the Bonus podcast, you got the 709 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 2: radio show every day three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific, 710 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. iHeartRadio app. I'm Doug Gottlie