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Speaker 1: back with our delightful Oh yeah, I said, we're delightful

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Speaker 1: uh theories on women around the world. Uh. And we

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Speaker 1: A Heritage Month or Asian Pacific American Heritage Month in

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Speaker 1: also lovingly referred to as Kumuhina from Hawaii or Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: We were promised. We're trying our best to be respectful

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Speaker 1: mean to us, because we do want to celebrate this

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Speaker 1: But before we start, because we are going to talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about traditions and preservation and culture, any

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask you, do you have something

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Speaker 1: or at least remember. That is a very good question.

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Speaker 1: I think for me a lot of it is food based,

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Speaker 1: Her path and mission of preserving her culture and passing

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