1 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Just be update. We're now in our second phase of 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: the B strong Ukraine effort. We started off getting to Poland, 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: meeting refugees, assessing the situation, seeing where the needs are, 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: and what we arrived at is that getting refugees out 5 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: and relocating them and moving them on to other places 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: in Europe or just taking them out of camps to 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: get them relocated locally in Poland is critical. In addition, 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: there's been a food shortage in a medical supply shortage 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: in Ukraine, so we will work with trusted partners and 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: work on trucking and warehouse logistics to get aid and 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: medical supplies back into Ukraine and distribute accordingly. You have 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: to be very strategic about with whom you distribute because 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: it has to be people that are trusted, so the 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: aid will actually be distributed where it needs to go. 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: And also not forgetting people that are far away from 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: main cities. Many times main cities get aid and it's 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: an onslaught of aid and it's an embarrassment of riches 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: where people that are far away from those centralized points 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: really could use it. So that's what we're doing right now. 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: The ten million in aid coming from Miami most of 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: that will go back into Ukraine to distribute for people 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: who need it there. And the five million dollars raised, 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: we've started to allocate that to travel and relocation, and 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: I say five million dollars. By the time you hear this, 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: it will be six million dollars because we've been raising 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: approximately a million dollars a day. So we thank you 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: the fifty dollar donations. Our train ticket out of there 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: for a refugee, two hundred fifty dollars can relocate a family. 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: We are grateful. One hundred percent goes to the effort. 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: You are making a difference. The messaging is working, the connectivity, 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: the information, it's all working. So you have definitely helped 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: and saved people's lives. Our mandate is refugees out and 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: aid in. There's a crisis in refugees exiting, and there's 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: a crisis in people who have stayed, so it's a 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: multi tiered, two pronged effort. Refugees that are leaving many 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: want to linger near Poland because they just feel that 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: they're sort of in limbo and don't know what's going 38 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: to happen next, and they're not ready to move on. 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Certain people want to live throughout Europe and move they're 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: refugee camps, they will be overloaded, they will be terrible 41 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: for the societies that they're in, So getting people out 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: and moving them on will be critical for them and 43 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: for the societies where these camps take place. They're completely 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: going to be overburdened. Camps are not a viable long 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: term solution. And the ten million dollars from our warehouse 46 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: in Miami will be coming shipment by shipment and that 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: most of that will be taken into Ukraine to distribute 48 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: to people who have needs there so shortly simply put 49 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: refugees out aid in. That's the Ukraine mantra. To donate, 50 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: go to Bethany dot com, b E t h E 51 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: n NY dot com, slash b Strong thank you. My 52 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: guest today is actor, comedian, and director Justin Long. He 53 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: has a force in the entertainment industry, working on film, 54 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: TV and voice acting. He's a comedian. You may have 55 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: seen him in the hit series New Girl, the classic 56 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: rom com He's Just Not That Into You, and various 57 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: other productions. While continuing his acting journey, Justin is also 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: the host of his own podcast Today, which I have 59 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: been a guest on we'll discuss his journey to success 60 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: in this competitive industry. Welcome our guests. Justin long enjoy Well, 61 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: I learned everything I knew about this vehicle and genre 62 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: if I'm doing your podcast, so thank you. Get out 63 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: of here. I hope we're recording. I hope. I hope 64 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: you've captured that lie. Yeah, everything I've everything I learned 65 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: about podcasting I learned in the hour I did. Justin 66 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: longs I did really enjoy the conversation. You're very curious. 67 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: Oh good, Well, I don't know if I should thank 68 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: you for Yeah. I think curiosity is do you do 69 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: you accept that as a compliment? Maybe? I think, and 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: I think in order to be a good interview, you 71 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: have to be naturally curious, right, I think so I 72 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: would imagine. Yeah. I mean, I watch a lot of 73 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, and sometimes you can tell when they truly 74 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: want to get to know somebody. You know, it's it's 75 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: very clear. That's so true. That's so true, somebody said 76 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: once on that show recently, it was on this season. 77 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: She said, She's like it was. It was kind of 78 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: sack because she had talked about a cousin of hers 79 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: who had passed away and then she said to the Bachelor, 80 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: She said, and it remind every time I see fireflies, 81 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: it reminded me of this memory with my cousin. We 82 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: used to and I thought she was going to say 83 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: something innocent. You know, we used to catch them and 84 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: put them in a jar. And she said, I used 85 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: to catch them and smash them and rub the I'm 86 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: not kidding, and rub the the what do you call 87 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: the the illuminated carcass on my face? She didn't say 88 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: it like that, but that's what she was talking about, 89 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: and she thought it was so pretty. And I was 90 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: waiting for this guy to be like, wait, wait, wait, 91 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: what do you mean you used to rub the you know, 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: just investigate it a little bit. But he was just like, oh, 93 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you shared that, and you know you 94 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 1: have such strength for sharing that. And it was while 95 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: I but I found myself having all of these follow 96 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: up questions. That's amazing. Do you think the Bachelor is 97 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: a good place to meet someone? Would you have done 98 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: it in your younger years? Uh? No, definitely not, because 99 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: I even though I now have a I have a 100 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: podcast and often talk about with my brother, so we 101 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: talk a lot about our lives and we try to 102 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: avoid any story that might be offensive to a family 103 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: member or a friend of but so we but we 104 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: still also try to use stuff in our personal life 105 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, funny anecdotes or whatever. And 106 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: but back when I was younger, the last thing I 107 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: wanted to do was share anything about my personal life. 108 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: I was very protective. I mean I still am to 109 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: a degree when it comes to other people in my life. 110 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: So and and and if any of the dates that 111 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 1: I've been on had been filmed, I said this recently, 112 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: we had Michael Theo on our show. He's from a 113 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: beautiful show, good Love on the Spectrum. I don't know 114 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: if you've seen it. It's people on the spectrum looking 115 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: for love, and uh and and it's it's everything the 116 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Bachelor isn't you know? It's it's it's they're so pure 117 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: and kind of unaware in many ways of the cameras. 118 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: So so there's something really like pure and honest about 119 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: their pursuit of love that's being televised. And but anyway, 120 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: I said this to him that if some of my 121 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: dates have been filmed, I mean, it'd be so cringey. 122 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: I feel I'd feel so self kindious and so in 123 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: some ways the people on the Bachelor who are able 124 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: to do it and really like do it for the 125 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: right reasons, quote unquote, I I guess I kind of admire. 126 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: I would just be way too self conscious. I think, well, 127 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: you have a private energy to me, So are you 128 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: a private person? Yes? I really cherish my privacy. There's 129 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: certain things in my life that I yes that I 130 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: that because so much of my life because I'm a 131 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: person who is somewhat visible and you know, kind of 132 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: visible to people in the world, and so I've given 133 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: up a degree of my privacy and my autonomy, and 134 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: so whatever I whatever is closest to me, whatever I 135 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: hold dearest, I try to really protect. Yeah, well where 136 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: is the line? So in your life, Like I'm I 137 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: never go I don't really go anywhere. So if I'm 138 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: going to work somewhere, it's sort of like you're going 139 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: into a studio, you're going to do something. And I 140 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: have a fairly private life unless it's something I want 141 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: to put out there. And things that often I put 142 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: out there, maybe maybe somebody else would think they're private, 143 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: but I don't care about those. But then some other 144 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: weird nuanced things to me, are private. So where's the 145 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: line for you? And how private is your life capable 146 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: of being? I mean, how much of your life is 147 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: a celebrity life and how much it is just like 148 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: a guy just living his life. I would say the 149 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: majority is very almost. I know this is not a 150 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: fun answer, but it's pretty boring. It's it's so normal that, 151 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, oftentimes I'll meet people and they'll say they'll 152 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: say a version of that, like, oh you you seem 153 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: so whatever, normal, as though it were a compliment. And 154 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: I think people are just expect that. I don't know, 155 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what they expect, but something a little 156 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: bit more glamorous, maybe something, and I don't it's not funny, 157 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: be funny. Well, there's that for sure that I don't 158 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: mind as much as you know, people who think they 159 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: really know you. And but I the line, where's the line? 160 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: I think it's people who I think it's my life. 161 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: I think it's my people closest to me, girlfriends, family, parents, 162 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: you know, people who didn't necessarily ask to be visible 163 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: in the world. So you see, you've done so many 164 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: different things. I actually, in reading it in print, you've 165 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: worked a ton, you've seems like you've always been working. 166 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: So do you have a rigid work ethic, because as 167 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: an actor, you know that could go either way. Some 168 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: people just sort of show up on set it all 169 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: works out. Or do you have a serious drive and 170 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: work ethic and are always looking at the chess board 171 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: not necessarily not really looking at the chess, but in 172 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: terms of the bigger picture and what I have to 173 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: do to maintain a degree of professional whatever relevance. Yeah, no, No, 174 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: what it is is I love I just love working 175 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: so much. And I Bethany, this is going to sound 176 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: like I think, kind of like a should answer, But 177 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: I I feel so lucky to be able to do 178 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: what I do. Luckier now, I think the longer I've 179 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: stayed in it, you know, the luckier I feel because 180 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: I it's it's I think it's hard to stay in 181 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: this business and continue to work in this business. So 182 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's the pandemic. For whatever reason, I feel the 183 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: luckiest I've ever felt to be doing this, and so 184 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: it uh, it kind of it makes me want to 185 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: work as hard as as I can. I mean, I 186 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: I just did a movie in Utah, and you know 187 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: it was it was a fun silly movie. Vince Vaughan 188 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: rewrote this Christmas movie like a Hallmark Christmas movie, and 189 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: so it was really kind of an absurdist, fun r 190 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: rated look at those movies and and so you you 191 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: could argue that it's whatever. It's like a month of 192 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: laughing and joking around. But but I, even even though 193 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: it was that in tone, I took it. I take 194 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: it very serious. You know. I take what I do 195 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: really seriously. I prepare I now more more than I 196 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: did when I was younger. For sure. I look at 197 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: some jobs. Sometimes something will be on TV that I've done, 198 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: and and and I'll regret not having gotten more sleep 199 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: the night before, regret having gone out. And I was 200 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: just talking about this last night. How La used to be, 201 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, almost every night we'd go you know, it 202 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: was just in my twenties. I would fumes fumes yes, 203 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: and the next day you don't, you have nothing to give. Yeah, 204 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: So I feel I feel like I had this, this 205 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: great opportunity, and it's something I've never want to squander again. 206 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: I want to, like them, make the most of it. Well, 207 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: I have a book that's called Business is Personal, Because 208 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: whenever if somebody says it's not business, it's personal. I'm like, 209 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: what the hell is more import than than business? You 210 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: spend so much of your life in business. I think 211 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: business is very personal. So it sounds like for you 212 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: the lines are completely blurred. Well they are. And I 213 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: also really love I like being comfortable at work because 214 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: I often feel I found that when someone's not prepared, 215 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: the actors usually that I know, actors, directors, people, professionals 216 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: who aren't prepared are the ones that tend to be 217 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: more hostile toward other people and and much less fun 218 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: to be around. You know, they're the one thing too. Well, yeah, 219 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: I think that I you know, you can I've seen all. 220 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: I've seen actors of like a really high stature. Sometimes uh, 221 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: just not doing the basics, you know, and and you'll 222 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: see them searching for lines. And then because they're they're 223 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: insecure about their their lack of preparedness, they they lash 224 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: out on other people and they throw their weight around. 225 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: And so I really love being around people. I love 226 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: working with this crew in Utah was an example of that. 227 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: Just just I love I don't know, meeting different people, 228 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: getting to know people and and and being my best 229 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: around them. I hate when a day goes by where 230 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm a little like shaky on the lines maybe or 231 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: a little less certain of what I'm doing, and you 232 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: beat yourself up a little after about it. You obsessed 233 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: about it a little well, because it's it's there's there's 234 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: such a degree, there's it's you know, it's there's a 235 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: it's permanent. Yeah, sorry too that when when you film something, 236 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: so I think it's not like a play where you 237 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: can go back and like, I'll try that again, I'll 238 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: master that tomorrow, I'll get that tomorrow. It's that's forever. 239 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's also an exciting thing about film. I 240 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: love that about film, But it's it can be if 241 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: you're not if you're not doing it properly. Yeah, beat 242 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: yourself phone sometimes for me, So for me, i'll say 243 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: it to myself. If it doesn't do well, I don't 244 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: that's okay. But if I feel that I didn't do well, 245 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: that's not okay. I mean I could for sure put 246 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: something out and I just feel like we did the 247 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: best because we nailed it, and then it flops. I 248 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: don't give a shit. I give a shit if I 249 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: feel like it was shoddy and then I feel like 250 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: we're scrambling and we're driving with no breaks. I hate 251 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: the feeling of driving with no breaks. Yes, well, you 252 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: are such a driven person yourself, I mean, like far 253 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: more so than I am. I mean I go through 254 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: I definitely at like lethargic and I I love being 255 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: lazy and you know, getting stoned and just like watching 256 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: shitty movie. I mean, I definitely go through those. If 257 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: I do it long enough, it'll make me depressed. And 258 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: so I try not to keep those periods much longer 259 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: than you know, a couple of weeks at a time. 260 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: But you strike me as somebody who is I mean, 261 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: every day is full? Is that safe to say? No, 262 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: I stack. I have to restore. I work at such 263 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: a crazy level and my mind doesn't turn off. It's 264 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: called I call it activation. My constantly I'm getting activated, 265 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: so I need to, like it's like a bear that 266 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: sleeps in the winter. I need to try to restore. Yes, 267 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: I have to really restore, because my body can't help 268 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: itself be be activated. We're in a big relief effort 269 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: now for Ukraine. So I'm activated. So I have to 270 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: like deactivate and say okay. And it has to be 271 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: a discipline to do how do you do that? Well, 272 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: last night I was like, you know, we're working on 273 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: this thing for the Ukraine, and last night I was 274 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: like listening to comments and reading things, and I felt myself, 275 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: I have to control myself because I could do that 276 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: till four in the morning and be on the WhatsApp 277 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: chats and these people that are and you Poland right now. 278 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: So I literally said on Twitter, okay, let's all try 279 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: to deactivate because it feeds off each other. And I 280 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: drank a half of vodka and I went to bed 281 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: at midnight and yeah, but I'm running this down and 282 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: heads to get my because I don't take anything. I 283 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't take anything to sleep because but I know you don't. 284 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: Why is that? I just don't like the way anything 285 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: feels like a film will be on me. I just 286 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: like to feel fresh. I agree. Have you tried five HTP? No, 287 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. Five HTP has been 288 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: working for me with in combination with calm gummies. I 289 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: don't get paid by them, Okay I should. Uh, that's 290 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: I found very helpful. We have Do you ever try 291 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: CD CBD, Yes, but I don't know which. It's all 292 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: like the it's like saying extra virgin olive oils like 293 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: forty thousand brands. I don't understand the breakthrough the clutter. 294 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to send you something. There's a sponsor for this. 295 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: They are a sponsor fruit for our show, the CBD company. 296 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: But anyway, all right, we'll send me great okay. So 297 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: do you of all of these things, do you like 298 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: anything the most? And do you what are you getting 299 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: the biggest personal ROI or the biggest financial ROI? What 300 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: is like so worth it to do? So you're or 301 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: you're just always switching lanes. I'm so sorry, Bethany, I 302 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: feel so dumb. What is return on investment? Your personal investment? 303 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Financial investments? Like return? Okay are my biggest ROI. I'm trying. 304 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: I like the way you speak. You speak in business terms, right, 305 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: like you could say, listen the podcast I don't make 306 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: the most money on, but it just rewards me because 307 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: I get to be or the movies I laughed like 308 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: an idiot for a month and it didn't make it. 309 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: Or this makes me so much money and I love it. 310 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: It's great business Like well that makes sense? Yeah, well okay, 311 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: when then I would say about the podcast, it certainly 312 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: don't do not get paid as much as as being 313 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: an actor, but it is it is the most rewarding 314 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: in it's it's differently rewarding in a creative way. It's 315 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: more it's far more personal. So like when somebody I 316 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: was this, I always think of this when somebody says 317 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: something to me out in the world about the podcast, 318 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: and it's often Bethany in passing in like it's often 319 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: in very off the cuff, like I was this going 320 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: to this restaurant. Oh, it's so good a roha in La, 321 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: this great sushi plays. And I and this woman we 322 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: were taking her table as she was leaving, and as 323 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: she just passed me and said, uh love the podcast, 324 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: kind of kind of like it just really thrown away, 325 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: and I it means so much to me, so I'll 326 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: I kind of like doubled back toward her and I 327 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: was like, thank you so much, you know, it's so 328 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: nice to hear. Whereas when somebody said mentions a movie 329 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: or something, I have so much less involvement in a movie. 330 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: You're not being right right right right, So it's for you. 331 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: It's more and it's an hour of you, per I mean, 332 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: that's like they're listening to you drone on for an hour. 333 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: So if they actually like it, yeah, and so it's 334 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: you're right. So it's it's like them saying I like 335 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: you as a person. I suppose yeah. And and and 336 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: my brother and I directed this our first movie, this 337 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: movie Lady to the Manner. And so when people it's 338 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: similarly when when they say things about that that meant 339 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: a lot more. And on the flip side, when when 340 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: it got you know, it got some bad reviews, that 341 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: was like a dagger, you know those words you joining 342 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: off right now exactly they like you versus your work. 343 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: And it's also good for someone to say I love 344 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: your work, which is you acting. But that's two different things. Well, 345 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: that that must have been strange when people would approach 346 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: you about the show, about the TV show about Real 347 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: House was and because you know, I imagine that's like 348 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: you had said something I forget how you articulated it, 349 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: but that it was a heightened situation. Those were heightened situations. 350 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: So how do you accept that kind of a compliment, Like, 351 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of yours from that show. Well, 352 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: like you, it's the comic, comedic timing and being a 353 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Greek chorus and so you're talented. It's something and you're 354 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: on the fly and it's real, but it's in those 355 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: weird it would be like being good at the groundlings 356 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: or something. You're good at being in that circumstance and 357 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: sing funny. But it's not like and I love you, 358 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: but they might love me for like ripping somebody a 359 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: new asshole, which is not what I know. So I 360 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: do every day. So it's a mixed bag. You know, 361 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: you kind of ala carte men, And then what does 362 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: it say about them if they love that about you. 363 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: I love how you tear people down exactly. I love 364 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: how you do not support other women. It's great. Okay, 365 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: So do you think you're funny? I do think I'm 366 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: capable of being funny. I'm capable of being very unfunny, 367 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: I know, and cheesy and like, you know, it's funny. 368 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: I I think my humor I don't know what it 369 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: is if if I'm just getting the older you get. 370 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you get cheesier. But I found 371 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: myself getting kind of like laughing at cheesier things, like 372 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: I laugh at more commercials. You know that commercial with 373 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: I think it's progressive insurance where they're like, it's it's 374 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't turn into your parents. I don't become middle 375 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: of agents. All these young people like you know, and 376 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: they're complimenting the waiter at being so you know, or 377 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: they're they're talking about what a great parking space they found. 378 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: I find mysel self identifying with that commercial. Like the 379 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: last night Paul sat be a picture of pizza at 380 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: the supermarket and it was de jorno. Any texted me, 381 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: he goes, it's not delivery because you know that. Yes, 382 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: I would do something like that. That's very try. Sometimes 383 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: I write things on Instagram. I try to be funny 384 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I I I love trying to be funny, 385 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: right Like I like people with whom I can laugh. 386 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: I think that's like that is the most cohesive uh 387 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: glue that that in my life. Like when I when 388 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: I in terms of connecting with somebody, it's it's it's 389 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: always humor, its sense of humors. Who's the funniest person 390 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: that you know? Yes, I was talking to Nick Offerman 391 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: yesterday on our part on Life Is Short, and Nick 392 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: said that he and his wife Megan Molalley, the way 393 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: they met was that we were talking about that that 394 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: that It was immediately through they were doing a play together, 395 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, it's just those little, those 396 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: dumb little bits that you have. He was he happened 397 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: to be backstage with her and he said, you know, like, 398 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: look the guy in the front row, he's you know, 399 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: wearing like this obvious to pay whatever. They would point 400 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: out things to to kind of laugh about and snicker about. 401 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: And I found that the relationships in my life have 402 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: always started there. And the humor. With the humor, I mean, 403 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: he pointed specifically to being in church, like, like the 404 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: humor that's slightly dangerous. Yes it's farting in church. Yes 405 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: it's fake farts in church. That's what like the litmus 406 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: test of And that happens to be what I find, 407 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, where I developed a sense of humor. I 408 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: grew up watching Monty Python and Laurel and Hardy and 409 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: these these kind of I guess more old fashioned but 410 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: but really like universally funny things. And there's a lot 411 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: of physical comedy, and there's a lot of timing and 412 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: awkward pauses. And I don't know, I just like eight 413 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: Paul and I every day, do you I'm like a shark, 414 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: Like every day, we do the same joke about it. 415 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: You that shark, You're not that land shark. No, Candy Graham, 416 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: Uh Mine was was Chris Farley and Phil Hartman and 417 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: those guys in the like Early nine crashing into the 418 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: tables Dana Carvey. Yes, I mean brilliant like stuff that 419 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: it still holds up. I mean to meet Laurel and Hardy, 420 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: I watch and it still holds up. There's there's some 421 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: chaplain stuff that holds up. I loved uh three's company 422 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: and John Ritter was was like a hero of mine. 423 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: So Michael J. Fox was brilliant his timing on family ties. 424 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: So so you know, those were my touchstones for me. 425 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: Humor is the number one thing in a relationship. And 426 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: so i'm it seems like you're the same, uh and 427 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: you can really diffuse. I mean, I'll say to Paul, 428 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: I'll go I'll say about somebody they could go fuck themselves. 429 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: And Paul will say, when I hear you, I hear 430 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: the Queen like I hear the Crown when I when 431 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I hear you, I think of the Crown. Because humor 432 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: can diffuse so much in a relationship. And those death banter, 433 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: yes for sure, and it lasts. It outlasts everything I 434 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: mean in it outlasts any kind of I think physical 435 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean hopefully not, well maybe not. Maybe you can 436 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: have them both forever. All right, So I want to 437 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: switch gears because I was shocked and I don't know 438 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: that much always about what goes on, and I don't 439 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: read all of the articles about things. But I was 440 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: shocked about and I hope you can talk about it 441 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: or okay talking about this. This a crazy abduction story 442 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: that you had jumping out of a moving car? Is 443 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: that like, is that even real? Oh? Yeah, that's really funny. 444 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're lying like, oh my abduction. Yeah. Well, 445 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: I wondered what you were going to say, and I 446 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: thought it's funny as you were saying crazy abduction story. 447 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: It was, but I guess I don't think of it 448 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: that way, even though you're totally right. It's it's just 449 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: a much more dramatic way of saying it. I guess 450 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: that than my than how I keep it in my brain. 451 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: But you're totally right. It was an abduction. It was 452 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: something that I talked about on just a basic abduction 453 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: Well it was, I got really it's hard. It's one 454 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: of those stories that's very hard to nutshell and it's 455 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: it's a long story. But I told it on Dax's 456 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: podcast when I did that to help kind of launch 457 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: our own podcast, and Dax had asked me, this is 458 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: an example of like we had been talking about earlier, 459 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: where is the line, you know what, how do you 460 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: separate the things that you really want to protect in 461 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: your personal life? And this was one of those things 462 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: that I had told Dax years ago and kind of 463 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: forgot it I told him because when it happened, I 464 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: was telling people, Yeah, I don't know DA's that well, 465 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: but like I was telling it was such a shocking thing, 466 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: and it coincided with kind of coincided with a breakup, 467 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: and so I was going through all these like pretty 468 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: heavy things and I was trying to make sense of it. 469 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: And so you just talk about those things when you 470 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: when you're I wasn't in therapy at the time I 471 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: should have been. And it seems to real it sounds like, oh, 472 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: it didn't even its reempt it. You made it up, 473 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: like my reaction to that, Bethany you I mean, it 474 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: was in fact an abduction, and yet I'm not able 475 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: to like you're right. I had this kind of glib reaction. 476 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm the same as you. I was so similar in 477 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: high school. I was held at gunpoint and I had 478 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: to say later on, it's like I made it up. 479 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: I did not hit up, but it feels like that. 480 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: So anyway, we're on your abduction. We're not on my 481 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: gun point. We're on your abduction. At one point during 482 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: the abduction, I had thought that's what was going to 483 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: happen to me, because they were It's again, it's a 484 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: long story, these local guys in Michigan. Basically, this is 485 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: gonna sound so hard to nutshout. They I smoked with them. 486 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: I smoked what I thought was weed and it was 487 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: I think I've told the story to people in like 488 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: private security, and they said, oh, it was PCPs probably 489 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: like they're pretty convinced based on my reaction. And my 490 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: body shut down and my mind stayed active and my 491 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: adrenals started firing and it was yeah, really like frightening. Uh. 492 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: And I and to ghetto and they got me in 493 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: a car and basically to get away, I jumped out 494 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: of the car. The movie and they knew you were you. 495 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: They did, and they were saying things like you know, 496 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna make them. Let's make another movie for TMZ 497 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: or it fortunately was before everyone and now everyone's got these, 498 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, the camp video video recorders, an old fashioned 499 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: feel like doc back to the future. Everyone's got these 500 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: video recording devices. But at the time, it was they 501 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: were driving me, I think to someone who had a camera, 502 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: and they were gonna My guess is they were going 503 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: to probably film me doing something like salacious or in 504 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: some compromised position. But so I you were just peripherally 505 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: aware of that, and you had some sort of where 506 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: withal they were driving. They were in the front seat, 507 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: I was in the back seat. I could hear them 508 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: kind of speaking conspiratorially on the phone. And again it's 509 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: a long story, but basically that's what I at the time, 510 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna shoot me. I thought they 511 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: were gonna kill me. And you opened a door and 512 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: ran and get went out of a moving car. Yeah, 513 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: So what happened was it was there was no one around. 514 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: It was like three three thirty in the morning and 515 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: at this small town in Michigan, and uh, and I 516 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: saw headlights coming and they were going through red lights. Uh. 517 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: And we were not far from my hotel. But so 518 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: I knew, I knew roughly where I was, and so 519 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: I jumped out. I opened the door. I would say 520 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: it was going thirty you know, thirty thirty five miles 521 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: an hour, and uh. And when I jumped out, of course, 522 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: you don't mind on your feet unless you're Spider Man. 523 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: And so I rolled under the car, and the car 524 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: rolled over my leg, and and and I got up 525 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: and we all seeping out of my pen and flag 526 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: down a cab. And the next day, anyway, the next day, 527 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: I woke up, you know, in a lot of pain. 528 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: And but but oddly my leg wasn't broken, the doctor thinks, 529 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: because I was kind of messed up. You know, I 530 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: was gonna say, I don't even know if you could 531 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: have jumped out of a moving car if you weren't 532 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: sucked up like that takes you know what I mean, 533 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: Like that's insane. It was weird. It's strange, Buffy, because 534 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: you like, you know, you're you, you've been in it 535 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: sounds like a very harrowing situation, and so your brain 536 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: starts doing, like frantically doing the math, like how do 537 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: I save? How do I live? How do And in fact, 538 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: when I when I got up on my leg, which 539 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: was really gnarled, and it was pretty gruesome looking. I 540 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: looked down at it, and I remember being I had 541 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: the strangest reaction. I'm not at all fashion, as you 542 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: can tell, I'm not a fashion person and I'm not 543 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: into that stuff. But but but you know, I have that 544 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: one like pair of jeans that you've just had forever, 545 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: and it did fit like a glob and and so 546 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: I looked down and I thought, oh shit, I messed 547 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: up my jeans. That was the thought I had after 548 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: after thinking I was about to die. I was so 549 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: relieved to be alive. I was just so Even the 550 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: next day, I remember thinking like, oh, my leg was 551 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: so swollen and gross, and and I just remember thinking 552 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: how lucky I was to be alive. And and sometimes 553 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: I look back at that, and actually it's weirdly inspiring 554 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: to me, Like you know it, there were other times 555 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: in my life where I came close to death, and 556 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: I think and and all they are now are reminders. 557 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there's trauma from it, for sure. There's trauma that, 558 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: like I think, has made me change my behavior in 559 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: the world. Emotional and physical trauma. Yeah, But but really 560 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: it's it's mostly just relegated to like where I go out, 561 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: who I trust in some ways it's good for it's good. Yes, 562 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: I have some kind of that that that thing, that 563 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: event was the result of me really not wanting things 564 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: to change in my life. I didn't want to change 565 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: my behavior. I wanted things to stay normal. I didn't 566 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: want to accept that I was being I was. Things 567 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: were different in my life socially. When I'd go out, 568 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: I would, you know, my way of coping with it 569 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: at the time was I would do like a couple 570 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: of shots of of whiskey, you know, just to just 571 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: to kind of take the edge off at a bar 572 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: because I loved going out, I love being around people, 573 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: and I didn't want that to change. But it was 574 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: it was, you know, it was during a time where 575 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: I was also doing a lot of movie is that 576 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people were watching, and I was in 577 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: a relationship that was very public, you know, and and 578 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: so they were changing and I and I, uh, I 579 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: needed to change my behavior. I remember talking to Funny 580 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: Enough a couple of nights before this event happened. I 581 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: was at the same bar where I met these guys. 582 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: I was at this bar with Steve Boushemi and Boushemi 583 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: we were doing this movie together and he had told me, 584 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: he said, you know, he saw the way I was 585 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: behaving in the world in this bar and and wanting 586 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: everyone to be to like me and wanting things to 587 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: be normal, and hey, are you that actor? Yeah, but 588 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm just a regular person here seven years old. You know, 589 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't want the world to be as 590 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: different as it had gotten, and and so and Steve 591 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: said to me it was interesting, he said, you know, 592 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: you need to be a little like wary. Sometimes I 593 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: forget how we put it. But he then told me, 594 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: and Michael told me that one time, really, you gotta 595 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna have to close your circle. Close 596 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: your circle. There will be people your close. Your circle 597 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: will get tighter. I've never really had a big circle. 598 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: I My circle's always been fairly closed and tight. But 599 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: the fact that he said that about people that he 600 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: had advised just who are coming up, And this was 601 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: years ago. He said to me, your circle will get tighter, 602 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: And he's right, Well, that's a good point, but it's 603 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: also yes, for sure, that happened naturally in my life. 604 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: But but I think it's also like how you strangers. 605 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's something about having just a little bit 606 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: of a sense of protective, like a more protective quality 607 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: about your space, trusting. And Steve had been I don't 608 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: know if you know this. He told me to inspire 609 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: me to do that. He told me about in greater detail, 610 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: this incident with Vince Vaughan. I mean this is all public. Yeah, 611 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: where they had been jumped. You know, this is early 612 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: two thousands. They were in North Carolina and they were 613 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: all jumped by some some local guys for whatever reason. 614 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm my guess is they were, you know, they're probably 615 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: jealous of you know, Vince was was, you know, attracted 616 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: a lot of female attention, and who knows what it was. 617 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: But they followed them out of this bar. They followed 618 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: Steve and Finnce out and they jumped them and Steve 619 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: was stabbed within christ Yeah, he was stabbed in the 620 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: neck close to his jugular and so he had a 621 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: really frightening incident. And I think he told me that 622 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: as kind of a cautionary tale to just just be 623 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: hud guard a little bit more than I was. And 624 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: then sure enough, a couple of days later, this wild thing. 625 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy that that was right. And as you 626 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: you don't have kids, right, no, no, okay, So as 627 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: you become a parent, that goes to exponentially because it's 628 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: about them, and then you don't want to be dangerous 629 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: anymore because you don't want to leave them. You know 630 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: what I mean? When you have an incident, If you 631 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: have an accident, there's like a boat that's scary or something, 632 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: or there's people aren't being safe around you are a 633 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: non safe driver, things like that get really heightened. And 634 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: especially since you've been through that, it's crazy. If you, 635 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, become a parent, that becomes another level. Bethany, 636 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: I would I know, I imagine I would be so 637 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: protect I mean with with partners in my life, with pets, 638 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I bet with kids. Got I can't imagine 639 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: how protective I would be. Can I just ask you 640 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: about the gun? What? What were the events surrounding that? 641 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: How did you come to be held at gunpoint? I 642 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: was in high school, and god, I was in high 643 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: school and we were waiting. I was with a girlfriend 644 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: and we're waiting in a park, and that I can 645 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: say this because it's irresponsible and I wouldn't want my 646 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: daughter to hear it. But we were waiting. I remember, 647 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: I was in this Toyota Supra. She's not I don't 648 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: think she's listening to this episode. She doesn't. She's not 649 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: a fan adjust am, so she doesn't seeing He's not 650 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: that she actually has seen. He's just thought that into you, 651 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: but so she So I was of a friend and 652 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: we were waiting, I think for these people to meet. 653 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: These people out, so we had some time to kill 654 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: and I think we were going to drink later. And 655 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: we had champagne or something in the car and we 656 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: were popping the bottle out of the door, which we 657 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: opened up. We were pop popping it and because the 658 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: door was open and my leg was out popping the 659 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 1: bottle outside, these guys, these two men held us at gunpoint. 660 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: It made us get on the floor of the car 661 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: and took my friend's necklace off and and then and 662 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: and said they'll kill us, and they ran and they 663 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: left them. We went to the cops and we went 664 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: to the hospital. But it was really surreal and like 665 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: it didn't happen because it happened so fast, And it's 666 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: the same thing you're saying, it's anecdotal now, like I 667 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: always forget about it, like do you have any recollection 668 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: of the details of their faces or anything like that? 669 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: The color like the guns, like the colors of the guns, 670 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: and weird. I would picture that, and my friend remembers more. 671 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: But I had a lot of like childhood trauma, and 672 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: she's seen a lot of abuse and stuff. So for me, 673 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm like you, I'm glib about things, and I just 674 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, I could have a near death 675 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: experience with something and just sort of convinced myself that 676 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: it's not a big deal or I'm making it up. 677 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: It's weird how the mind does that. Yeah, it must 678 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: be for survival. What yeah, But I always imagine I 679 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: always wanted to think about that often, you know, especially 680 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I think about being held 681 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: at the idea of that, like your life, especially if 682 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: you're that phone about your your face down and it's 683 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: and your life is totally in the hands of a 684 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: strange totally. I can't imagine what that loss of control 685 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: must be like, Like what, yeah, do you do you 686 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: remember that feeling? Was it? Was it? Do you remember 687 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: thinking they're going to shoot me? Not even clothes? I 688 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: don't remember any No, I bomb a block out or wow, yeah, 689 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: probably yeah. So, so what has been the rows of 690 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,479 Speaker 1: your career and the thorn the rose? Well, god, that's 691 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: a good question. That is a good question. Well, you know, 692 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: I think the movie that kind of sparked so much 693 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: for me, whether it was Galaxy Quest and Dodgible, were 694 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: two movies that really set into motion a lot of 695 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: great professional things. And they're both movies that I think 696 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: like maybe re looked at. I know, Galaxy Quest is, uh, 697 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: there's a there's a show in the works. There's like 698 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: a I don't know if it's a reboot. I don't 699 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: know what you would call it. But but I know 700 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: Simon I've talked to Simon pegg On on my podcast 701 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: about that. I think he's writing it and so hopefully 702 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: that will come to fruition. And uh, Dodgeball was just 703 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: working with Vince Vaughn, like I said, and he was 704 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: were he's been romanticizing doing it, having doing a sequel, 705 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: and having an idea for a sequel. But those two 706 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: movies were really led to a lot of uh led 707 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: to a lot of professional opportunity. So I would say, 708 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: but you know, I've also done really bad movies that 709 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, I did one where where you know, I 710 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: met you meet people that are important to you, and 711 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: you have a lot of laughs. And so the ones 712 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: that that work out in the world are not necessarily 713 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: my own personal roses, you know, those those two Galaxy 714 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: questions thought what happened to be a lot of fun, 715 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: and I met Vince and such good friends on some 716 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: of those. But god, I did a movie called Strange 717 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: Wilderness that that got like he got a zero on 718 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes. It was one of the greatest Yes. No, uh, 719 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: the movie I directed with my brother was was uh. 720 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: You know, we had some some some great reviews and 721 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: some really shitty ones, and but overall it was such 722 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: a joy to get to do, to work with Melanie 723 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: Lynsky and Judy Greer and women like that. And so 724 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: it's hard to say. Thorns are easier, I think to count, 725 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: and there are so few of them because even the 726 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: ones that that didn't necessarily work maybe weren't all that fun. 727 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: I feel like, I know this is these are such boring, 728 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: like boy Scout answers, But I feel like I learned 729 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: so much and then you learn what not to do. 730 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: It's like it's like relationships too, and you learn to 731 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: be a little bit more discerning and whatever and look 732 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: for different things and value different things. So it's hard 733 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: to say, like, oh, I wish I hadn't done this. 734 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: There was a play that I really wish I had done. 735 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: There's certain things like that that I wish I hadn't 736 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: passed on. But you know, you live learned. You said 737 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: that your life changed sort of in that bar time 738 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: and you were dating publicly, and I don't know what's 739 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: gone on in between, and I don't know that much, 740 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: only what sort of I dating papers, But you have 741 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: dated publicly. And is it easier to date someone in 742 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: your industry because they understand your life in a schedule 743 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: or is it not? Because there's two peacocks, like how 744 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: do you decide when to date a civilian or when 745 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: to date someone that's that's in the industry. That's interesting 746 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: two peacocks. That that's a good point. I think I 747 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: think that the former point is true of me, is 748 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: that like there it's it's easier to meet though those 749 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: are people you bond with, you connect with, you meet 750 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: like I don't really go out certainly during the pandemic 751 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: and all that, and since since the pandemic yam and 752 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: since I turned for you know, since I got older. 753 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: I I don't really drink much that much and I 754 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: don't go out. I just don't so go out much. 755 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: I went out last night for the first time in 756 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: a while, and it felt again I keep thinking about 757 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: this progressive commercial, like I'm turning into one of those guys, 758 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: and like it was exciting. I kept commenting on how 759 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: exciting it was to be out. And it was just 760 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: a restaurant. It wasn't even like some like hip bar. 761 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: It wasn't like some cool club. It was just like hey, 762 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, Wow, we're really out, We're doing it. 763 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: But I think it's just natural to meet people that 764 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: you again, we were talking about just humor, laughing with 765 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: somebody and that being such a like immediate connective thing, 766 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 1: and those are the people that I find myself really 767 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: laughing with and bonding with. And uh. And in terms 768 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: of it being public public people who are known or whatever, 769 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: it was always kind of you know, I hear people 770 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: talking about how difficult that can be, and you know, 771 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: you reading stuff, and I found at least back in 772 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: the day, you know, it might be different now with 773 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: social media and stuff. But I found that it so 774 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: easy to avoid that stuff. You just don't read it. 775 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: I just want to read it. I would say that 776 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: to people who are you know, and you know in 777 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: one of those relationships or or or you know, have 778 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: something coming out that's that's being consumed by the public. 779 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: It's like, it's so easy to not read. No, And 780 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: you also don't call paparazzi to come take a picture 781 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: if you're private. If you don't go to the ivy 782 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: on rocks, you might not get paparazzi. Do you know 783 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Do go to the ivy all the time? 784 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: Because I love the s No, It's true. You're right, Bethany. 785 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: You you there's certain places you avoid. I mean I 786 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: live in you know, Massachusetts and in a small town 787 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: and h Connecticut and a smile, I just don't go 788 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: to You're right. I mean, it's it's easy to avoid 789 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: that stuff. Sometimes it's hard to avoid sometimes, you know, 790 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: if they're at the airport or if they there happens 791 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: to be something you're going through in your life, and 792 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: they'll be you know this better than anyone they're they're around. 793 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: I'm in a long distance serious, engaged relationship. Yeah, so 794 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: I find that that you know, and we're in different industries, 795 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: but that has its challenges and it has to absolutely managed. 796 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: And if you're meeting if you live in Massachusetts and 797 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: Connecticut and you're always meeting people in the industry, they're 798 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: usually LA based, I guess, or in New York, how 799 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: do you manage? Because I always asked this question, like, 800 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: how do you create a successful relationship? What is the 801 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: definition of that to you? What's the recipe for that? 802 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: Like what works? What doesn't work? Bethany I, You know, 803 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: I'm forty three years old, and I feel like I'm 804 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: just starting to figure that. So I'm by no means 805 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: an expert. I'm a novice still and I'm trying to 806 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: figure it out. But I think it's about carving out 807 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: space and time and and and honesty and communicating and 808 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: just being really communicative and vulnerable. And you know, it's 809 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: all the things you hear about, and it's when you 810 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: start putting into practice and you find such such great 811 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: at what dividends it pays? What did you say earlier? 812 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: Ro Oi ROI, Well, it's interesting what you're saying. So 813 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: you're a year younger than I fiance. And you know, 814 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: I go to therapy and we go to therapy, and 815 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm seven years older than him, and I notice different 816 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: things developmentally in relationships with him and his past and 817 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: him having a different relationship history than I do. I 818 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: notice this is like a coming of age for him, 819 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: this age that you're at where you're sort of realizing 820 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: that there's not a one size fits all relationship model 821 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: and it can be not traditional and it can be 822 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: sort of a choose your own adventure al Acart menu, 823 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: as long as you're curating that and nurturing it and 824 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: paying attention to it, meaning it's not the twenty five 825 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: I my what a therapist said to me was, when 826 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: you're young and you first get together in a relationship, 827 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: your expectations are in a relationship. Once you really get 828 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: into the relationship, the reality of the situation is what's 829 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: in a relationship, right. I guess I had put a 830 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 1: lot of Yeah, I guess in the past, I've been 831 00:42:53,360 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 1: guilty of having investing too much in those expectations, and 832 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: of course, when they don't come to fruition or when 833 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: it becomes a real thing with you know, real struggles 834 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: and difficulties and you start seeing and all the gloss 835 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: of the chemicals wears off and you get into who 836 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: the people are. But I think it's and then you're 837 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: in a real partnership, which isn't always easy. It's just 838 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: what you put into it, right unless unless, And I 839 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: think what the key might be, and again, like I'm 840 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: new at this, I think it might just be like 841 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: honesty upfront is establishing as establishing a habit of like 842 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: regular honest communication. And I know that sounds like basic, 843 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: and but it's it's it's to to to practice it. 844 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: I found is hugely rewarding and not always and not 845 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: easy because it's like you have to do it, you 846 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: have to like get up and do it. But once 847 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: you do it, you feel better, like probably the way 848 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: people feel and they work out well exactly. I mean, 849 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: I yeah, it's what I've been told. Yeah, it's what 850 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: I've heard. I know. It's it's doing it. You're right, 851 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: And it's like avoiding getting bogged down by the story 852 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: that you tell yourself. I go, I can't. I remember 853 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: my dad used to say cowards die many times before 854 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: their death, and and I think about that often. I 855 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: think about when whenever i'm I fear something. I it's 856 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: it's it's never, it rarely isn't as bad as the 857 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: story that I've told myself. Right, do you feel so 858 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: you're forty three, do you feel I don't have the 859 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: word is self conscious? But do you feel any urgency 860 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: to have kids? Or like, wait, I haven't been successful 861 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: because I've felt self conscious in my own life about failing. Yeah, 862 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: but now I wrote a book called I Stuck a relationship, 863 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: so you don't have too. So do you feel like 864 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: you're you suff written a forward? Do you suffer? You're 865 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: good because you've had so many practice, so much practice 866 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: not being good. Yeah, that's a good you know what 867 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: I think kind of in a way I think now 868 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: in my life it is it is the latter. I think. 869 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 1: I think you're right because I've had so much practice 870 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: in one that didn't work, and uh, you know, I 871 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: think what it is is you just start to distill 872 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: your own needs and recognize your own needs and and uh, 873 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: and understand more clearly what it is that you want 874 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: and value. And I think that's what age does. I 875 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: think that's I was always so afraid of getting older 876 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: and and now I'm really grateful for the wisdom it's 877 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: given me, and that is probably at the top of 878 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: that list relationship with Yeah, it's knowing what I knowing 879 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: what I want, knowing how to maintain it, and I 880 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: also knowing what the other side is. I think a 881 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: lot of guys certainly covet the idea of, you know, 882 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: being wild and free and being out there and and 883 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I I've seen the other side of that, 884 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: and and uh and and it's and it's not it's 885 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: not what it was cracked up to be. Yeah, it 886 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: only has to happen, I mean, theoretically, but it's the 887 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: idea of it. I mean, I think a lot of 888 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: guys are are compelled by the idea of what's out there. 889 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: And so when you kind of have have glimpsed that 890 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: just because I was single for a long time, and 891 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: you know, I was not in the longest relationships I've 892 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 1: had have been like three years. So it's it's uh, 893 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: at forty three, I certainly don't feel any pressure, but 894 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: I feel a real sense of calm about where I 895 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: am in that. In terms of that stuff, well, I 896 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: guess the last question would be do you what percentage 897 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: are you lucky? And what percentage. Are you smart, lucky 898 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: and smart? Oh man? In terms of relationships Bethany or 899 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: everything career? Oh both, But that's good that I've never 900 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 1: asked it. In terms of relationships, well, well, I think 901 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a matter of being. But I think 902 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: both things are both mechanisms work the same way, and 903 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 1: they both work best when you're I mean, like acting 904 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 1: and life being in a relationship. I think it's best 905 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,479 Speaker 1: when you stay out of your own way, when you 906 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: are able to kind of be present and not in 907 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: your head. And I think, like I said, I think 908 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: just knowing what doesn't work has helped. I've really I 909 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: love meditation. I love, in a weird way, being home 910 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: for the pandemic and having putting less pressure on myself 911 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: to continue to work work work is, and investing in 912 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: things like leisurely enjoys like I got a guard, I 913 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: started gardening again and cooking and things like that. As 914 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: cheesy as it sounds, I think it's really allowed me to, 915 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: like we were talking about, like down regulating, you know, 916 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: it's it's it's allowed me to kind of find my 917 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: neutral place, and in that there's a great degree of 918 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: of of wisdom I think, and understanding, and I think 919 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: that's that's when that's the best time to enter into 920 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: some relationship, when you really know what you want and 921 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: know who you are. It's so true, and you reminded me, 922 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: which is a good note to end on that with 923 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: luck in business and in relationship, you have to be 924 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: you have to set yourself up. You have to have 925 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: everything ready on the boat for if those fish do come. Yeah. 926 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: So with emotionally, you have to set yourself up emotionally 927 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: so you're ready if if a good relationship comes that 928 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: you're prepared for it and you can treat it properly 929 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: and nurture it and be you know, be set up 930 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: for success in that. That's a great note for both. 931 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: I think so, Bethany. I I mean again like shake 932 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: this with a big grand song because I'm I'm new 933 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: at it being good. But I think acting is the 934 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: same way acting. It's it's helped my you know, and 935 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 1: I certainly like some of the jobs I've done since 936 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: since this change has occurred, I find myself a lot 937 00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: more present and confident in the work. I mean to 938 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: to act your best, I think you just need to 939 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: be as present as possible. I it's you know, it's 940 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: similar to to you on the shoot. You had mentioned 941 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: being on the show, and it's it's like any sort 942 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: of improv you have to be open to listening and responding. 943 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: It's it's basic, it's very basic. But when you do 944 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 1: it properly, when it when it, when you're in put 945 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: yourself in a position to succeed, it's it can be 946 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: so exhilarating. I think, exactly. Well, it's no mystery to 947 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: me why you're so good at podcasting. You're so interesting 948 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: to talk to. It has been such an absolute pleasure. 949 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 1: I can't even tell you. I like you. You're so great. Likewise, Bethanie, 950 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to hear that you're you found, you 951 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: got a fella and you're you're doing it. Yeah, I 952 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: am doing it. Maybe one day we'll get together, we'll 953 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: go on a double date. I would like that. Awesome, 954 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: have a great odd day. It was so good talking 955 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: to you, Thanks, Bethny. So Justin Long is so wonderful. 956 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 1: That was such a great conversation. I I'm so happy 957 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: for his success. But his success is so deserved and 958 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: justified because he's such a conversationalist. He has such a 959 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: beautiful curiosity he honestly wants to hear genuinely about what's 960 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: going on with other people. And I just think he 961 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: was terrific and wonderful. And we talked about relationships and 962 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: success and being guarded and getting activated. It was just 963 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: a really beautiful conversation. So thank you so much for listening, 964 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 1: and remember to rate, review and subscribe. It just I 965 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,919 Speaker 1: never grow tired of these amazing conversations and I learned 966 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: every day, so I appreciate you so much. Thank you. 967 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: Just b is hosted by me, Bethany Frankel. Just Be 968 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: is a production of the Real productions iHeart Radio and 969 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: Blue Duck Media. Our EPs are Morgan Levois, Antonio Enriquez, 970 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: and Kara hit To catch more moments from the show, 971 00:50:48,600 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram and just be with Bethany