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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome on in.

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Speaker 2: It's a winning week, Sainte Sway, so I actually got

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Speaker 2: a smile on my face for real.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to talk about how we lost or whatever. No,

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Speaker 1: how we won.

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Speaker 2: My dog Tyler Shuck put two of the end zone

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Speaker 2: by himself on the ground, feet working. My young Buck

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Speaker 2: Devin Neil scored his first touchdown in the NFL. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to the Saints beating the Buccaneers or Buck Cantiers.

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Speaker 2: It depends on how you look at it.

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Speaker 1: Either way. You know, I'm super excited.

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Speaker 2: You know that not only guys are here off the

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Speaker 2: edge the podcast with me, your host Cam Jordan, but

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Speaker 2: I got to introduce one of my guys that I've

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Speaker 2: known for quite a long time, inadvertently on the other

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Speaker 2: side of the league. You know that the NFL, then

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Speaker 2: there's the NBA. You know the talle as hell they

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Speaker 2: make all you know, they make great plays and their

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Speaker 2: own rights. But he even had a little touch, a

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Speaker 2: little stint with football. We'll get in that later, but

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about Michigan State alum.

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Speaker 1: You know it was spartan if you will.

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Speaker 2: Fourteenth season with the Golden State Warriors, time NBA champion

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Speaker 2: four time NBA All Star, one of the greatest picks

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Speaker 2: in the image of second round picks and NBA Draft,

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest.

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Speaker 1: Defenders that we're gonna talk about, and Dremond Green.

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Speaker 2: It's time for this week's Drive for Success Conversation, presented

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Speaker 2: by Toyota.

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Speaker 1: Let's go places, my guy.

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Speaker 3: What's up, my brother? How are you?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: You know, just from a guy who who loves defense,

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Speaker 2: loves Washington defense being played.

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Speaker 1: I love I love the aggressive manner in which you

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Speaker 1: bring to the table.

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Speaker 2: You know, I say all basketball players are soft, but

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Speaker 2: I don't mean all of them. I mean the new

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Speaker 2: ones and I really mean, you know, like the ones

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Speaker 2: that don't have a defensive mindset like yourself.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this before.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that, brother.

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Speaker 4: You know, I agree with you, like a lot of

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Speaker 4: basketball players are soft. That's just the reality. I think

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Speaker 4: the game has gotten a lot softer than it is.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think the toughness that a lot

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Speaker 4: of guys used to bring to the NBA isn't really

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Speaker 4: accepted in the NBA anymore. So I I agree with you,

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Speaker 4: a lot of guys are soft. You're not wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, you know my My wife played ball over

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Speaker 2: in California, went to uh, you know, went to Marlborough

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Speaker 2: High School McDonald's all American back in the gap, back

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Speaker 2: in like two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Who lord, when we got out high school.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand, she was twenty twelve million in two thousand

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Speaker 2: point guard was was Isaiah Thomas. So she talks about

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Speaker 2: the game soft woo the wool. It's always you know,

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Speaker 2: everybody old always wants to talk about how the game

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Speaker 2: used to be playing, like it's it for next game now.

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Speaker 3: And it's definitely it's definitely a for next game. Listen.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, I agree that the game is softer.

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Speaker 4: I do also think like there are some guys that

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Speaker 4: are more physical than the game allows, you know, but

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Speaker 4: the rules that say Isaiah Thomas or you know, older

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Speaker 3: Rules though, you know, so it does piss me off

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Speaker 4: Guys going to be like yeah, they soft as hell,

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Speaker 4: and like the game soft as hell, like because we're

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Speaker 4: not in control of all of that, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, yes, there's a group of soft guys,

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Speaker 4: but by the way, just so we're clear, there were

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Speaker 4: back then as well, Like everybody wasn't tough that played

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Speaker 4: also a group of guys that are physical, that play

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Speaker 3: Not always allowed to play that way.

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Speaker 4: You're not allowed to do the things that they were

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Speaker 3: So I think there's you know, there is some truth

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Speaker 4: Know, but I think a little bit of it is

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Look, you know, guys, guys looked at you know, ray

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Speaker 1: You can't do that anymore, you cannot. I used to

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Speaker 2: Safety safety Joey Brown aer over it at the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: They called him the claw, like he was going by

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Speaker 2: You can't do that, Like I know, there's rules in

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Speaker 4: It happens, absolutely, I think, you know, you can even

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Speaker 4: every other week. No, you think of a Vantae perfect

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Speaker 1: His time, but he lay in heralded in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, he's been kicked out two times over. They

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Speaker 3: So I think you know when you look at it.

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Speaker 4: But that's also like the sports were more violent then,

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Speaker 4: It all makes sense at the end of the day.

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Speaker 4: So we can on complaining to be like, oh man,

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's clearly has

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Speaker 1: Everything, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: So do you see the uh you saw the Chargers

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, okay, you know, justin Herbert trying to

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to celebrate my teammates. Yeah, I hear you

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you got to got a chance

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Speaker 3: Yes, I did see it. I see it from both

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Speaker 4: You know, that goes back to like just talking about

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Speaker 4: the money of it, right, like the business of football,

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Speaker 4: the business of basketball. I was talking to a friend

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Speaker 4: you know, like we all shore our complaints with our boys, right,

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Speaker 4: and he was telling me like some of the complaints

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Speaker 4: And it was just kind of like my subtle reminder

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Speaker 3: About the business of basketball, you know.

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Speaker 4: So speaking the law, she's going to do her job,

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Speaker 4: which which like you said, she's a great at it.

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Speaker 3: Take nothing away from her.

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Speaker 4: And her job isn't really going to require her to

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Speaker 4: just like, I gotta get this interview because that's my

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Speaker 4: job and that's what I'm required to do. Justin Herber

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Speaker 4: But in that moment, he want to go. He want

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Speaker 3: So I really don't feel like.

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Speaker 4: Talking to you right now. I'm gonna go over here

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Speaker 4: I'm going to celebrate my teammates. Where I will give

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Speaker 4: Justin Herbert credit is he stopped. He did the end,

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Speaker 4: you know, and I can respect that. To your point,

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Speaker 4: I didn't think it was a very big deal either.

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Speaker 3: And then I saw people like, well, you know how

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Speaker 4: And I'm just like, hmm, if all Justin Herbert wanted

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Speaker 4: miss me with the you know how much money you made?

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Speaker 4: You got to do that? No, no, no, what he

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Speaker 4: go win football games. And if he win football games,

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Speaker 4: he makes that money for being a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He don't make that that type of money.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady makes that type of money for talking about

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Speaker 4: the game. Just Herbert doesn't make that type of money

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Speaker 4: for talking about the game. So miss me with the

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Speaker 4: when people try to act like, oh man, you just

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Speaker 4: got to do this, and I don't have to do

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Speaker 4: anything but go play this game.

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Speaker 3: And as long as I play this game at a

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Speaker 3: very high level, even.

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Speaker 4: If I don't do the interviews Mark Shawn Lynch, they

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Speaker 4: still gonna pay me at a very high level.

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Speaker 3: So miss me with that.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: What fills the seats is the talent involved.

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Speaker 2: You know, like Justin Herbert is a is a is

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Speaker 2: a headliner.

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Speaker 1: You know that there's nothing throws he made.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason why they won, you know, and that's

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Speaker 2: the reason why they want to interview him.

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Speaker 1: When you make big plays, you get big questions.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, they didn't go interview the third string quarterback. So again,

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Speaker 4: Like I hit my barber bro. I was so anti

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, bro, it's time. We door dashed to die.

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Speaker 4: And we've been rewinding it ever since.

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Speaker 1: Rewind time. You know, you just want to look good.

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Speaker 2: Especially on the court, y'all ain't got no help. Macy

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Speaker 3: Man. They after you know, everybody saying I'm older than

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Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, bro, I'm getting up there, but I'm

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Speaker 2: I just think with four kids, how much how much

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Speaker 2: I can bring you, know I can. I can bring

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Speaker 2: he brings his kid. I make him run. They do

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go get in the morning before it starts up.

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Speaker 4: You know, Steve curR is incredible about family and so

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Speaker 3: So they get access. I'm very grateful for that. My son.

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Speaker 1: It, no doubt. Have you introduced them to the coltels yet.

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Speaker 3: My son has been in the colt My girls have not.

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Speaker 3: He's like, oh yeah, oh he embraced it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, good for him. Bro, I don't believe in the Kolto.

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Speaker 2: But my son was having some growing pains, you know, like,

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Speaker 2: what is this. We're not supposed to be here, going.

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Speaker 1: To goat up. I don't, I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 3: All these years, you're not in the Kolto.

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Speaker 2: No, sir, I believe in heat. I believe in heat. Restore,

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Speaker 2: I'm big.

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Speaker 3: I'm big. Hot tub.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even get to the hotel to year ten.

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Speaker 2: Look, right around twenty nine thirty, I started like, all right,

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Speaker 3: I'm in the hotel every day, steamroom.

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Speaker 2: I used to be like I getting up, I get

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give me some coffee too. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm like what, I don't know. I might start taking

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: After that, you get class, you go home.

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Speaker 1: You go home.

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Speaker 2: You know, God, look anything past some flower seats. I'm like, dang,

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Speaker 2: other side in the hot tub, like, dang, I mean

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Speaker 1: I gotta.

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Speaker 2: It's different anything anything past like what thirty in the league?

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Speaker 2: Is anything past thirty? I get the question, Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: You got y'all got a longer career.

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Speaker 2: But as you know, as you get, as you get

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Speaker 1: Hey, how much long are you gonna play? Is there

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Speaker 4: You know? What's correctly? My boy asked me the other day.

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Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, bro, you don't have a great run. Man.

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Speaker 3: He started naming off stuff. He like, so what's next?

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Speaker 4: I started defending myself again, and like I'm going to

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Speaker 3: Because I'm like, all right, that's two times. He just

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Speaker 4: So I go on, I go to defending myself like, hey, bro,

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Speaker 4: I'm still playing at a high level. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what's next year? Like you mean, what's next? Like I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm still so I got real defensive about it. I

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 4: At least another three you know what I'm saying, two

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Speaker 4: three years at least, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm at top of the DP on why I still

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Speaker 4: At least another three Like I said, so if if

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Speaker 3: You know. So That's where I'm at with it. Broke

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when were you getting mad about it? You through

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Speaker 2: you realize you know this passion there, this passion. I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm not not yet.

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Speaker 4: Like I thought, if you asked me this two years ago,

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Speaker 4: I would have probably told you two years. Two years later,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, ah, like I'm still doing this at an

439
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Speaker 4: eligue level, and I still love to compete, Like I

440
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,800
Speaker 4: still love going out there battling with these young guys,

441
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,280
Speaker 4: you know, Like how went at it with Winby two

442
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,960
Speaker 4: games in a row a few weeks ago, Like well, actual, yeah,

443
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Speaker 4: well yeah, well it was two games, so we stayed

444
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Speaker 4: in San Antonio, we played Wednesday Friday, and like just

445
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Speaker 4: like competing at that level with guys who's like he's

446
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Speaker 4: closer to my daughter's age and he's closer to my age,

447
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,360
Speaker 4: you know, and like having those battles with young guys

448
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 4: to where you then got old guys who's long gone

449
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Speaker 4: talking about me battling a twenty one year.

450
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Speaker 3: Old and like, oh man, you know this, that and

451
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Speaker 3: the other the era you play.

452
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Speaker 4: But you're saying this twenty one year old is great, Right,

453
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Speaker 4: I'm thirty five and you're saying hum, but you're arguing that.

454
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Speaker 3: Oh man, you're doing this to him. These arguments ain't

455
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Speaker 3: really making sense.

456
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Speaker 4: To each other, you know, So I'm enjoying this still,

457
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Speaker 4: bro and competing at that level.

458
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Speaker 3: Is it's nothing to replace it?

459
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Speaker 4: Like I do the podcast, you know, I do the

460
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Speaker 4: TV stuff like it's all fun, it's all great, but

461
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 4: it's nothing like when you step out there on that

462
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Speaker 4: floor at seven o'clock and it's twenty thousand fans and

463
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,919
Speaker 4: you know, everybody in case you walk in the arena and

464
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 4: everybody you dramon like it's nothing like that.

465
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Speaker 1: Come on, who needs coffee?

466
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Speaker 3: When I exactly like, it's nothing like that.

467
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Speaker 2: And you say that until you know and one day

468
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Speaker 2: when you do put it up, are you gonna look

469
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Speaker 2: at the game like, dang I should come back.

470
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, can, but I have zero interest in playing

471
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Speaker 4: basketball at forty four, coming out of retirement at forty four.

472
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Speaker 3: What I do, what I do believe is.

473
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Speaker 4: I've given so much to this game, and I'm still

474
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 4: giving so much this game.

475
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Speaker 3: When I'm done, I won't have.

476
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Speaker 4: Nothing left, like like I won't have a YO in

477
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Speaker 4: three years. I'm no, I'm done, Like I've left it

478
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 4: all out there. I've seen guys over the years that

479
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 4: you know, they leave stuff in the tank and then

480
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 4: they're either going longer than they should be going, you know,

481
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 4: or always trying to come. It's because you didn't get

482
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Speaker 4: everything out of the tank that you need to get

483
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Speaker 4: out of the tank. I'm getting everything out to tank

484
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Speaker 4: that i need to get out of the tank when

485
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Speaker 4: I'm I'm done. Congrats to Philip, you know, if his

486
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Speaker 4: dream was to come back with the Indianapolis coach, more

487
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Speaker 4: power to him.

488
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Speaker 3: But I do not foresee that being the path for me.

489
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Speaker 3: I just when I'm done, they can have it.

490
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: Like I'm moving on, We'll be right back. You've played

491
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Speaker 2: your entire career with the Warriors. I played my entire

492
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: career with the Saints. Like there's the pride that you

493
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Speaker 2: have for playing with one team, you know. Like I've

494
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 2: never seen free agency. I've like, if I get close

495
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Speaker 2: to the end of a contract, I'm like, man, come on,

496
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Speaker 2: just update me to be I don't need to be

497
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Speaker 2: top dollar. I just want to be respected, you know.

498
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Speaker 2: And then that's like I've gone peer off respect dollars.

499
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Speaker 2: After I walked to the game, I said, oh, wow,

500
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Speaker 2: if I could get ten million dollars, And once I

501
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Speaker 2: passed that point, I said, man, I never have to

502
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Speaker 2: work again.

503
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Speaker 1: So now I'm playing for what I want.

504
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Speaker 2: I want the black and go to win the Super

505
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Speaker 2: Bowl I want and that's what I hunt for every

506
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Speaker 2: year and if it comes short, whatever, This might be

507
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Speaker 2: the first time I've like am entering free agency or

508
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: whatever that looks like at fifteen, completely different landscape than

509
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Speaker 2: it would be at entering free you know, a free

510
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Speaker 2: agency at year eight. But just the idea that you

511
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 2: could play for another team, does that do something for you?

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Speaker 3: Not really? No.

513
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Speaker 4: I over the course of my fourteen years, I've entered

514
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Speaker 4: free agency a couple of times. Once I was a

515
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Speaker 4: restricted free agent after my first three years, which I

516
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: never truly hit free agency like that, we got a

517
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Speaker 4: deal done in like day one restrictor freance here at

518
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Speaker 4: day two.

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Speaker 3: And then after this this current contract I'm on.

520
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Speaker 4: I was a free agent technically for a little but

521
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 4: so they changed the rules to where you can negotiate

522
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Speaker 4: with your team before you can negotiate with good team.

523
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Speaker 4: And so I was, you know, I was in free

524
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Speaker 4: agency and we were working on a deal right like

525
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Speaker 4: I was about the free agency, and we got a

526
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Speaker 4: deal done. So I've never really gone through the full ringroup,

527
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 4: you know, of what free ac is taking meets from

528
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: this team, meets from that team, you know, being towed.

529
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Speaker 3: But I've never gone through that, and I'm appreciative of it.

530
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Speaker 3: I've never really wanted to go play for another team.

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Speaker 4: I understood that in this business there would always be

532
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Speaker 4: the chance, you know, or you know, I'm not going

533
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 4: to be disrespected on my contract and just say, oh man,

534
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 4: I just want to play for this team, so you

535
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 4: can disrespect me. But to your point, I've never gone

536
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 4: for just absolute top dollar either, you know, where you know,

537
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Speaker 4: I could have waited six months and went for the

538
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Speaker 4: full total max. I've never done that. I've always just

539
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: done extensions. Uh you know, I've done extensions that helps

540
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Speaker 4: me financially, that helps the team financially, that allows us

541
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Speaker 4: to continue to build. But yeah, just like at this

542
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Speaker 4: point in my career, especially going to play for another team,

543
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Speaker 4: it's like, I don't want to do that at this point,

544
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Speaker 4: as I said, always going to want to respected for

545
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 4: what I bring, you know, and be at some sort

546
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: of level that of page that say yeah I'm respected

547
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 4: in that aspect, but they don't have to be the

548
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: absolute most I can make, like I'm doing all right.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just respect me.

550
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: Just don't disrespect me, Like, just don't go out to

551
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: way and be like, hey, this is it.

552
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: This is it?

553
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: Not like you're forcing my hand to go somewhere or

554
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Speaker 2: you know, like in my mind, I've always I've always

555
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: gone through it. Like it's crazy. You think about some

556
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: of the greats of all times, right, and you see

557
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: him in another jersey. Right, you got Ricky Jackson, who's

558
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: with the New Orleans Saints for thirteen years, and then

559
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: you got two years with the.

560
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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. I'll be it a championship year.

561
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: But it's like, dang does that so what.

562
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Speaker 2: It taints the New Orleans Ricky Jackson that I that

563
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: I think about, Like, I'm not think's Ricky Jackson.

564
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Speaker 1: I think New Orleans.

565
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Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden you put him in a

566
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Speaker 2: red and gold jersey. You know, you got Jerry Rice,

567
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you put them and not

568
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: in a Niners Like yeah, you get.

569
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Speaker 1: The what it looks different? Yeah, the random Seattle jersey.

570
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, wait a.

571
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Speaker 3: Minute, what what is that that's.

572
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, it didn't feel like it feels disloyal.

573
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: It does. It's just like you've been viewed a certain way.

574
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 4: You put on a jersey for so long, like you

575
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: become kind of synonymous with that jersey.

576
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 3: Once you take that jersey off, you know, and it's

577
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: one thing.

578
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Speaker 4: Once you put on a different jersey, then it becomes

579
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 4: a totally different thing, you know, and it just looks different,

580
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 4: like it's not it's not easy on the eyes, you know.

581
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 4: And so I think for me personally, I don't I

582
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: don't want to ever put on another jersey, but I

583
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 4: don't want to be forced into retirement and I can

584
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 4: still play, you know, or like just because say my

585
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 4: team that I've been with, it's like we're kind of

586
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 4: at the end of it now if I still got

587
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 4: some left to give, and I got some left to give,

588
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 4: but I don't want to.

589
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Speaker 3: I don't have interest in play for another team. I

590
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: just don't see it, Like it don't add up to me, right.

591
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: Even if it was a home team. You're a Detroit kid.

592
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm an Arizona boy. Like, yeah, I mean as.

593
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 4: Dope as it would be to play for the Pistons.

594
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: Got respect what they got going, you know, they got

595
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 4: they got a good, young, physical team. They're putting it together.

596
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: I always like to see the Pistons do well. So

597
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: as dope as it would be to like be like, man,

598
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: I'm playing at home, like go to State is my

599
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: home now, you know, like NBA basketball, that's my home,

600
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Speaker 4: you know, like, yeah, I'm from Michigan. Still got a

601
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 4: sacon Off area code nine A nine that will never change,

602
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: you know, like I will always be rooted there, no question.

603
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: That's that's home for me, absolutely, But when it comes

604
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: to NBA basketball, like the Golden State Warriors is my home.

605
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 4: I'm lucky enough to be one of the guys one

606
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 4: of the few guys in this league.

607
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Speaker 3: That can say, yo, I have a home like and

608
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 3: I don't take that for granted.

609
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: No doubt.

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00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 2: All Right, last, when I'll get you out of here,

611
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: who's your favorite NFL player to watch?

612
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Speaker 4: My favorite NFL player to watch today today, I would

613
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 4: say Jamiir Gibbs.

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00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: He he he.

615
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 4: He's an electric man like you, like you just need

616
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: to get the ball into his hands and like once

617
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 4: he got the ball in his hands, like anything goes.

618
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: So I I truly enjoy watching Jamiir Gibbs.

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Speaker 4: And then that's an offensive guy from a from a

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Speaker 4: from defensive siety.

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Speaker 3: Ball. It's impossible to not watch Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett is insane, Like.

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00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,520
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Speaker 3: Like, I mean, it's insane. So what he's doing. And

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