WEBVTT - Adult Baby Doll with Fortune Feimster

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Catherine, Hey Chelsea. We are fresh off the boat

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<v Speaker 1>from my Orka. We took a sailboat all the way

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<v Speaker 1>there from the Pacific coast, so that took us O God,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Trace says, yes, you went to Row significantly.

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<v Speaker 1>I came home and I told my Bell and Felix,

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<v Speaker 1>who worked with me at my house with me in

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<v Speaker 1>concert because I'm doing so much. I told them that

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<v Speaker 1>my Spanish was deteriorated in Spain. I think the last

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<v Speaker 1>week was the worst because I had three full Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>speakers there and well, you also speak Spanish, and I

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<v Speaker 1>realized just how basic and fundamental my Spanish is. So

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<v Speaker 1>I told him no more speaking English at home. This

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<v Speaker 1>We're only speaking Spanish from now on. And so now

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<v Speaker 1>I can't understand anything the funk that's happening. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what she's talking about, but I we're sticking with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm learning. Mam Bell is also dual LINGO now

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<v Speaker 1>for yeah, Well she I'm just like, listen, We're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fucking figure it out. She loves to correct me,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's perfect. This is a huge a tudity for

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<v Speaker 1>her to put me in my place. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>total status shift. So I am winding up my stand

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<v Speaker 1>up tour. Vaccinated and Horning is coming to a screeching

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<v Speaker 1>halt at the end of the year. I have my

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<v Speaker 1>last dates coming up, and these are the last opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to also buy merch from the website Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>Handler dot com if you want Vaccinating Horny merch or

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<v Speaker 1>Captain's hats that say We're the Captains now for women only,

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<v Speaker 1>our t shirts for men in your family that say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry because they should be. I only have a

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<v Speaker 1>few dates left. I'm going to be in Wheatland, California,

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<v Speaker 1>this Saturday night, and then I'm going to Tucson, Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>next weekend. November five is Tucson, November six is Colorado Springs,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Rockford, Illinois, Minneapolis, Rosemont, Illinois, two shows in Tampa,

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<v Speaker 1>a show in Fort Myers, Florida, Daytona Beach, Hollywood, Florida, Concord,

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<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire, Wooster, Mass wilkes Berry, Pennsylvania. Wilkes Berry, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>there I said it, and then San Diego and Riverside, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Baltimore, Maryland, and then my very last date

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<v Speaker 1>is December six in Reading, Pennsylvania. So this will be

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<v Speaker 1>the last of me performing. How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Very relieved and excited. I mean, I have had a

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<v Speaker 1>really fun time touring. I liked my schedule. Three months on,

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<v Speaker 1>one month off, three months on, and now these last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of dates, I just have like two shows each weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>which is totally doable, and so now my special will

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<v Speaker 1>come out. Now I can use these shows to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with my next hour. I just don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about. Do you try out like

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<v Speaker 1>new material as you're sort of closing out of show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying out some new material. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to come up with an hour, so I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to really use these dates to do it because

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<v Speaker 1>I have all the time, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I could stay on stage for two hours and

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<v Speaker 1>screw around, but I've been doing this set for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I can't stop touching my breast. I have

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<v Speaker 1>this weird sports brawn today that's like turning them into

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<v Speaker 1>yeah us and I don't like that feeling. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they also look like they're coming It's not the right look.

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<v Speaker 1>I've already got a unit boo going on too, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's more because of my shirt, like the design on

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<v Speaker 1>my shirt, which is what's his name, Eddie from my

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<v Speaker 1>Iron Maiden brand, But yeah, he's is that a real person?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mean, I wish so. I love spooky things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also hosting the Critics Choice Awards, you guys. That's

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<v Speaker 1>exciting on January, Yes, which you'll be aired on what

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<v Speaker 1>Never Work is at c W. I'm not sure c

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<v Speaker 1>W great, Yeah, But I do want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>something Katherine, that I learned about you. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say first, I forgive you because on the way over

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot I had a COVID test because I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show in the morning, the Talk, and I

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<v Speaker 1>made a little let us wrap with some ground turkey

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<v Speaker 1>and some onions. And normally when we're doing a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that, you know what I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have onions when I'm coming in to speak so

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<v Speaker 1>closely and sit so closely next to you. But as

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<v Speaker 1>you revealed over our vacation, in my worka you bring

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<v Speaker 1>hard boiled eggs onto fucking airplanes as a snack, not

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<v Speaker 1>two or three like nine trainer. There was a photo

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<v Speaker 1>that her husband Brad showed supplied me with. This is

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<v Speaker 1>after my foot breakdown because of people and their bare

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<v Speaker 1>feet on planes. I'm still having a massive influx of

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of feet out on airplanes, and I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to let everyone know if they're wearing socks, that is

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<v Speaker 1>not as offensive as a barefoot. It is the bare

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<v Speaker 1>foot that is not clevered or clean or hygienic, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's inappropriate. It's like a it's disgusting. And they're putting

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<v Speaker 1>their feet on stuff like screens. Some people are putting

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<v Speaker 1>them on the ceiling. Some people are putting them on

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<v Speaker 1>the windows. It's just gross to have your bare feet exposed,

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<v Speaker 1>and also on a dirty, dirty vessel like an airplane.

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<v Speaker 1>But back to you, I am flabber gas sooner I was,

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<v Speaker 1>You're at a flabber gastado because I cannot believe that

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<v Speaker 1>you would think that that is acceptable. That is the

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<v Speaker 1>worst smell there is. I know it's pretty bad. I

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<v Speaker 1>have been known to bring a full bag of eggs

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane, you know, to share with people. Share.

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<v Speaker 1>No one wants to share. It's just like a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>little shot of protein, and I know it's it's pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty heinous. But if you want the protein, get

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<v Speaker 1>something else, get a full protein bars make you fart

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<v Speaker 1>on planes, I'm convinced, well, they make you fart anyway

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<v Speaker 1>and on planes, But the good protein bars actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>make you fart. But there's other ways to get protein,

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to find out what they are. I

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<v Speaker 1>do love a beef jerky. That's not that great either,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, that smells, so that's better than hard

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<v Speaker 1>boiled eggs, though I mean eggs you need to eat

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<v Speaker 1>right away so the smell is gone and they're not warm.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love hard boiled eggs. I have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerator of that because that's where they belong, in the

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerator at home, not untraveled. Speaking of hard boiled eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>I have my longtime girlfriend here today. Her name is well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you say a few words and see if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody can recognize your voice. This is Chelsea's girlfriend. She's

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<v Speaker 1>she's not only my girlfriend, she's also in a marriage

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm part of their throuble. This is the theme

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<v Speaker 1>in my life as I'm a third wheel to lots

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<v Speaker 1>of different couples. I know, I know because I put

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<v Speaker 1>out left right and sets her. No, No, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>ever had sex yet, but I'm still we're still in

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<v Speaker 1>a throat all, we're in an emotional trouble. It's Fortune Feamster. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>You may know her from you. We would probably have

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<v Speaker 1>been introduced to her on Chelsea Lately, where I was

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<v Speaker 1>introduced to her, and now the whole world gets to

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy her. And she just walked into my podcast office

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever the funk this is and she I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Fortune person. I was grabbing her leg. I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 1>feels smaller than normal. And you revealed that you'd lost

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<v Speaker 1>forty pounds because she played a c I agent c

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<v Speaker 1>I a CEE I not a clatorial investigator, a Central

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence officer, central Intelligence agent agent. And her most recentse

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<v Speaker 1>in a Netflix show. Yeah, it's gonna be on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>Sits with Arnold Schwartzenegger. Oh is that how you say

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<v Speaker 1>his name, Arnold Schwartzenegger. I don't. I have a very

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<v Speaker 1>thick accident. I don't pronounce anything right. Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a very tricky name to say, so we'll just call

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<v Speaker 1>him Big Arnold. Was how was that I was working

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<v Speaker 1>with Arnold? It was awesome. I was out in Toronto

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<v Speaker 1>for five months filming. Yeah, and it was all action stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, you know, running, I know I was running,

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<v Speaker 1>had a gun stuff. Wow, you'll be very turned on.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see that. So six months there.

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<v Speaker 1>If I've meant to tron too. I saw you had

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel some gigs because you got trapped there. Had

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel my European tour because production got extended for

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<v Speaker 1>almost a month. Oh yeah, and you also have a

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<v Speaker 1>new Netflix special that just came out. Congratulations on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. It's called Good Fortune. Why why didn't you

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<v Speaker 1>do Fortune Cookie? I don't know. I didn't think about

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<v Speaker 1>for the next one, the next one. Yeah. If you

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<v Speaker 1>just put your name in everything, like I put my

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<v Speaker 1>name in everything, nobody could tell the difference between one

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<v Speaker 1>thing or the next. It works. Yeah, it's my my

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<v Speaker 1>new hour. I'm very happy with its awesome. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I shot in Chicago while I was filming this action show.

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<v Speaker 1>So when do you think you'll be going back on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. Um, I'm gonna do like club dates in

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<v Speaker 1>November and December around California, and then announced a big

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<v Speaker 1>tour starting the end of January. Oh, great hit a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of new cities with new materials. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have any ideas of things that should talk about, let

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<v Speaker 1>me ship. I know I have talked the same boat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just wrapping up this tour and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to come up with some new material and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I should be doing it now since I

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<v Speaker 1>already taped my special, but since my special isn't out yet,

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<v Speaker 1>I just keep holding on to the same show. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know fucking time for any creative juices right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the hardest part about putting out a special is

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<v Speaker 1>riding a whole new agg I just I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about you because when I there are certain

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<v Speaker 1>comics that like to run their hour before they tape it,

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<v Speaker 1>like two hundred times. I can't do that. I like

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<v Speaker 1>run it seventy or seventy five times, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>theater dates after I've run it in clubs, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty five altogether. But I can't go past a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred because then I'm just sick of my own material.

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<v Speaker 1>I this one, I did a lot. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred cities and about a hundred sixty shows. Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Fifteen of those were post filming sows, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And were you able to come up with some new

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<v Speaker 1>material while you were doing those new shows or did you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have to and then here you go

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<v Speaker 1>back on the road and you have to startch five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes into an hour. You're like, ohh ship, isn't it funny?

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<v Speaker 1>Every single time. It's the same thing with a book.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single time I'm done writing a book, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. I'm done, nothing left. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, fuck, I gotta write another book and I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do another stand up show. How many books have

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<v Speaker 1>you written now? Uh? Six? Six? I'm on my seventh

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I'm writing a new one. And and I

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<v Speaker 1>just had a phone call with my editor this morning

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, listen, this is all over the shop

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, do you want to show me some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, nope, it's not made for anyone to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never written a book. I thought you did write.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that seems weird, like everyone from Chelsea lately wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book. I didn't. I was I didn't think at

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<v Speaker 1>the time that people wanted to book for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like it wasn't the right time. But I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm maybe have a book in me now. Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like everybody has a book in I've never

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done it. Yeah, well that seems like something

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<v Speaker 1>you should tackle that. Do you want to write it

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<v Speaker 1>for me? Yeah? I love. I would love to be

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<v Speaker 1>a ghostwriter. Can you imagine you trying to write my story?

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<v Speaker 1>And then this bitch had some brownies? Oh, like I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the clip we did. We did an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>night show. I think it was a Netflix show where

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<v Speaker 1>we all did cannabis. We had a cannabis dinner and

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<v Speaker 1>fortune was definitely the highest and the funniest for about

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<v Speaker 1>They actually set me my social media team set me

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<v Speaker 1>clips of that dinner and I was like, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>capturing how ridiculous this got. I was like, go back

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<v Speaker 1>and look at the footage. You need that, we need

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<v Speaker 1>the out takes. Out takes. We laughed until we couldn't breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>You thought she thought there was military inside my house.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, is that man wearing a military uniform? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what he had on? Camo pants? And he was he

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<v Speaker 1>was the lighting guy and he was breaking the lights

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<v Speaker 1>down and I started yelling no lights left. I was

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<v Speaker 1>high for like six days after that dinner. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was because it was a cannabis infused dinner, so

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<v Speaker 1>that the food, everything, everything. So just when you thought

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't get higher, you did. And she had never

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<v Speaker 1>had no self control with food. Well, but you also

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any self control with cannabis because you had

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<v Speaker 1>never done it before. Never. Yeah, I had not done

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of edible so I didn't know the ratios.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't believe you didn't get sick. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I was high until noon the next day, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did not get sick. But everything was very fuzzy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My one of my eyes didn't open the next day

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<v Speaker 1>until eight p m. It was a wild time. But

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<v Speaker 1>you we did, you know, go through the stages of

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<v Speaker 1>laughing uncontrollably. We got so hungry after the dinner. Your

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<v Speaker 1>assistant was gonna go get us burgers, and I went, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a burger, and then you get or we

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<v Speaker 1>could just get a wrap. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>wrap what You're gonna get high and eat something semi healthy? What?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I came to under peer pressure and I went, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like she's like, I'll have a turkey rap spinached dortia,

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<v Speaker 1>good memory, that's exactly whatever. Some some good fats on there,

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<v Speaker 1>like avocano. What drugs did we try and didn't? I

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<v Speaker 1>give you a little mushroom in Montreal, Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't end up doing it. Oh Jack jack too much?

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody gave me don't work. I think he has a

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<v Speaker 1>high tolerant. Those were weak ones. Actually, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>I knew they were we I so this guy gave

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<v Speaker 1>me light, medium, and then strong. I would have heard

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<v Speaker 1>of my friend Allison's house one day and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to try these mushroom gummies. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, mushrooms are my favorite. That's more. I

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<v Speaker 1>like mushrooms more than cannabis. And because they just make

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<v Speaker 1>you awake. I've never had mushrooms. I know, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. I'm that Nancy Reagan campaign and really

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with me. But you're a lesbian and she wouldn't.

0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.040
<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't approve of that either. Fortune, so you need

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<v Speaker 1>to divorce yourself. You have to divorce yourself from Nancy Reagan.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunate as someone who had never done mushrooms, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did like one of those little light gummies. When we

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<v Speaker 1>were in ma Yorka with Chelsea, it was so chill

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<v Speaker 1>you barely feel it. You just giggle, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>great time, and then you like feel yourself kind of

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<v Speaker 1>coming down from it at the end of dinner, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not scary. I'm pretty chill though already. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think I need to be chilling? It just it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good point, Like I guess it would be already. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already on mushroom and maybe I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that trip you guys took. Now. Chelsea had two

0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.360
<v Speaker 1>groups of friends come visit her in ma Yorka. The

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<v Speaker 1>first group they were doing like forty mile bike rads

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, no thanks. And then the second

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<v Speaker 1>group was like we're eating dinner every night where everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>bringing food. I was like, that's the that's the group

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Yeah, I had. Actually there was a group

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<v Speaker 1>preceding those two groups, so there were three groups. The

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<v Speaker 1>second group where these exercise maniacs all my friends from

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<v Speaker 1>Whistler and and who basically left my Orca ran a

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<v Speaker 1>marathon in Berlin and then came in six in the

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<v Speaker 1>World Championships for triathlog the little the little that little

0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:28.040
<v Speaker 1>claym muscle. Yeah, she's she's a fucking lunatic. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>want well by the way I listen. I actually I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is too much exercise, Like one night

0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I had heat stroke. I was like, this is too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when the last group came in, I turned

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<v Speaker 1>into and and I took like four of them. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to king? Who wants to go hiking? We

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<v Speaker 1>went on a five hour hike by accident with Katherine's

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<v Speaker 1>husband was there. It's a spearheaded thank god, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was by Have you ever tried to follow a trail map?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I can't follow a map or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I had been left to my own devices,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be bed right now. And it was a

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<v Speaker 1>tricky hike. I mean it was high and scary and

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<v Speaker 1>we had to climb hike down to the water to

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<v Speaker 1>hike back up. Finally our cousin, my cousin Molly picked

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<v Speaker 1>us up because we were like, this is a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of noise. Yeah, the one that I'm sleeping with, I

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<v Speaker 1>always go, yeah, that's funny. Yeah you that hike part,

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<v Speaker 1>that's too much for me. I would have been eating

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<v Speaker 1>calamari somewhere. Well, we did, we ate and drank. Katherine

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<v Speaker 1>was there, Katherine and Brad came. We had so much

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<v Speaker 1>sangria every day at lunch and then I just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just and then I would just I get motivated

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<v Speaker 1>by drinking, like I want to go exercise again, like

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<v Speaker 1>because so I can burn off the you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're sober up quickly. But it's just sangria also, which

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<v Speaker 1>is basically watered down with juice. Yeah, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a Caprison. Yeah, that's true. It's an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you drink a lot? Do you think you drank

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<v Speaker 1>more during your days on Chelsea Lately? Or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you drink more now? I probably drink more now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so much healthier than I was on Chelsea Lately,

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I drink the same. Yeah, Like how

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<v Speaker 1>to eat handle your liquor? Well, do you know you

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<v Speaker 1>never act like sloppy? Well I did, I did? I had. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're a lady. Now I'm elegant. Now I'm elegant.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the love of the stories you would tell about

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<v Speaker 1>going out and saying that limit the lemon, that lemon

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<v Speaker 1>juice comes in and empty. That was hilarious. I would

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<v Speaker 1>also take those little squeezeable lemons you buy in the supermarket.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the lime and lemon which is fresh lime juice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's not fresh because it's sucking canned, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would take that and then i'd go to the Improv

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<v Speaker 1>to do a set. But I did trust their lemons

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, it's the Improv and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>their fruit, and so I would squeeze that little lemon

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<v Speaker 1>into my vodka wherever I went, and it became my

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<v Speaker 1>person and all canteen. That is so funny. Just I

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<v Speaker 1>just picture you with just getting a lemon out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you wait? Let's talk about Chelsea lately taste

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<v Speaker 1>what are Let's see what's one of your favorite memories

0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.200
<v Speaker 1>that sticks out? Can you think of something off the

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<v Speaker 1>top of your head? Because we dressed you up a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was par to line, abusive, wait for fortunate it,

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<v Speaker 1>but she always had such a great attitude about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You treated me like your adult baby doll, like I

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<v Speaker 1>can just put fortune and whatever I want. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just happy to get a paycheck because when I got

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<v Speaker 1>your show, I had had had no money. I was

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<v Speaker 1>out of money, and you became a right well at

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<v Speaker 1>first she became a writer, but immediately we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>she has to be on camera. Yeah. When I interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>with you, I owed my roommate like two grand and rent.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was dire, straight wow. I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna do. I mean, I wouldn't have

0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.400
<v Speaker 1>gone home. I would have, you know, figured it out.

0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I would have gotten a job somewhere, Starbucks, wherever, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have done whatever. But the dream was to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the business and to be a working comedian. I

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed with other people first and then had the meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with Chelsea, and I had no, you know, no expectations

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<v Speaker 1>of it because I didn't think I had a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, I think that I was first. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was your first interview of the day. And now

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<v Speaker 1>that I know you, I know that like you just

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<v Speaker 1>make your mind up about something and don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>come back to have to do something. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>luckily you liked me, and you got up in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of my interview like ten minutes into it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you go, okay, well, thank you, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she hates me, and you left and I called my

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<v Speaker 1>you know manager. At the time, I was like, well,

0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess I said something to offender. She got up

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the interview, and y'all offered me

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<v Speaker 1>the job the next day. And now that I know

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you know that, you just were like, yeah, I like her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I also don't want to have another meeting, So

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little bit of luck. You know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think anyone that would have met you would have

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<v Speaker 1>understood the quality and the contribution you were gonna you

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<v Speaker 1>were about to make because we had such a band

0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.520
<v Speaker 1>of idiots on that show, so that anybody with a

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 1>good sense of humor, and that made me laugh, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know it was going to be a good time

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.680
<v Speaker 1>because that was like a proper like fraternity party. That

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<v Speaker 1>was before well, actually no, there was hazing. Probably, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys pranked each other all is home and I think, my, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my second day, you send an email from my computer

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<v Speaker 1>to like everyone saying that I like to get naked

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<v Speaker 1>and have to take meetings and hot tubs something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would get in early because I'm an early bird,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would get in early and then just start

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<v Speaker 1>sending emails from different people's account. This was before you

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<v Speaker 1>could get in trouble for those two kind of kinds

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of things I would send. I would send emails to

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<v Speaker 1>human resources and be like, I found two naked people

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen this morning, and then send them a

0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.440
<v Speaker 1>picture of the employees, and then they would have a

0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.480
<v Speaker 1>human resource meeting. We would come out to people. I

0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>would come out for other people. I would set people

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<v Speaker 1>up on dates with people from e Like. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so inappropriate everything we did, but it was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. Yeah, I remember. I remember one day we

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting there because we would have every time there

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<v Speaker 1>was a birthday, we would have cupcakes or whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>person wanted. If they wanted Mexican food, whatever their favorite

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, we would set it up. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>sitting after work one day and we're all sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>eating Mexican food, drinking Margarita's. It was like Margarita Thursdays

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and I was like, do you think other

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<v Speaker 1>people laugh as much as we do? And everyone's like no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>And now that I'm not on that show, I realized, no,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't laugh as much as we were laughing because

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<v Speaker 1>it was constant stupidity, and it didn't We didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>even care what other people. We never cared how the

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<v Speaker 1>show was being perceived, which is why I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was just success because no one was worried about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We just did stupid, stupid sketches. We're like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>should dress somebody up like this, or they show us

0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 1>a clip from some stupid reality show or something that

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Tara Reid did, and we'd be like, oh, let's reenact

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it and it will make her be Tara read and

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 1>show we could be you know, a bowling ball or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever we decided, and we would just run with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we didn't have any time to be self conscious. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I think that really one of the key

0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:32.320
<v Speaker 1>ingredients to a successful endeavor is to not overthink it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think people just really love that you put

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<v Speaker 1>together all these comedians that like, you love seeing everyone

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:40.919
<v Speaker 1>interact with each other, because everyone would make you other

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>laugh or pick on each other, or you would give

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<v Speaker 1>people crap. So many people still to these days say

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.800
<v Speaker 1>they felt like they were a part of that with us,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they were going to bed watching us be silly

0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.679
<v Speaker 1>with each other, and that kind of was like lightning

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 1>in a bottle. You don't see comedians like that interact

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<v Speaker 1>in that way. Anyway, we're gonna do it again. We're

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna reboot it, and we're going to do it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>because now we have all of us and then this

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>whole new crop of comics that are fucking awesome and funny,

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and we can mix them all together. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to put a show together where you can show

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<v Speaker 1>comedians being funny without being racist or sexist. Since everybody

0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 1>seems to be fucking complaining about parameters, It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>could do all of those things without being offensive to people,

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. I want to show them how easily that

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<v Speaker 1>is done. Now, would you do that like an every

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<v Speaker 1>night kind of thing again? I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're having the conversations now, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>where it leads. I don't know. I mean, like I

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<v Speaker 1>still want to, like go to Spain. Yeah I can't.

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't be a year round job. Okay, let's talk

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and I have Spain. My sister is like, how are

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>you going to do a real job with your lifestyle

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that you've been I could only work two hours a day.

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.719
<v Speaker 1>But one thing that's changed for you because you had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different love interests during the show, and

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 1>we're always very concerned about Fortune's love interests. We always were.

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 1>We always didn't want anyone dating her for the wrong reasons.

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And she's so sweet and loving and gullible that at

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that time you were. I mean, you're still sweet and

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<v Speaker 1>loving and probably a little bit gullible. And there were

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of, you know, weird ones that came through.

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>But now you have been in a successful relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>Jack's for over ten seven seven years. Yeah, I came

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 1>out late, you know, I didn't come out until five,

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>So I was making a lot of mistakes. Like you

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 1>take the TV show and television in general away from

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the mix and me just trying to date. I was

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<v Speaker 1>making a lot of mistakes that you should make when

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you're eighteen, nineteen, early twenties, you're making college those kind

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>of things. I was making a lot of those mistakes

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>in my late twenties, early thirties, and you happen to

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>be around for some of that part in my early thirties.

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, just you don't know who's dating you for

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the right reasons, or all of a sudden, I'm on

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a television show that females are obsessed with So you know,

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of women kind of came out of the

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 1>woodwork because they loved you and they love the show,

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and so sometimes you were like, do they like me

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 1>or do they just want to meet Chelsea? Like, I

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't know. So I went through some experiences where you

0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>find that out and some were some were good, Some

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>intentions might not have been good for some people. But yeah,

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>it took me a while to really figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted and what I was willing to put up

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<v Speaker 1>with and what I felt I deserved. And that took

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>me till, you know, mid thirties to really figure that out.

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I met Jack's Like, right as I was

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>figuring that out, I met her. So tell us about

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>your relationship with her, because it feels very healthy, it

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>feels very supportive. She moved out here to be with you.

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't always come on the road with you, but

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys obviously spend a fair amount of time together

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 1>on the road. By the way, nobody should have to

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>go on the road with anybody because it's a fucking

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>ball buster, and that we shouldn't have to expose that

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to anybody. So I get not wanting to do that,

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>but tell me about some of the growth that you've

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>had within that relationship and how that supports your mental

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>health and career and all of the things that you

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>know you bring to the table. Yeah, I think I

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>met her at a town where I was tired of

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 1>being someone's option. I had a lot of people kind

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.120
<v Speaker 1>of treating me like you'll do for now kind of thing.

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>And I remember specifically being like, I'm done with that.

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 1>I want to meet somebody that wants to be with me,

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>and I'm a priority for them their priority for me.

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>And she came into my life and right away I

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 1>knew that there was something different about her and about

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>our connection, and we just clicked. And we were long

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:46.360
<v Speaker 1>distance for a year because she was living in Chicago,

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, she like made that decision to leave

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 1>her job. She was a kindergarten teacher in Chicago and

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>inner City Chicago, really amazing teacher. And I remember being like,

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<v Speaker 1>am I ruining this person's lie by like having her

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 1>come out to l A. She's such an amazing teacher

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and she loves Chicago. But you know, she did that

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>for me. She wanted us to work and us to

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>be together, and I was touring a lot and acting,

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and if she hadn't done that, you know, we might

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>not have been able to to make it because my

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>schedule was so crazy. But she was willing to put

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>me first and no one had ever done that for

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 1>me before. And so she moved here and we just

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of started this life together. And yeah, it's a

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>very I think, very healthy relationship that you know, we

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>support each other and she's very helpful with career stuff.

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>She's kind of like part of the circus now. She's

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>always I don't there's no decision, I don't run by her.

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>She's very much at the helm of everything I do.

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>She was executive producer on both my specials. Yeah, like

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and very good at it too, not just like putting

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>her name on it. She's going frame by frame with me,

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>watching all the shows and all the shots and making decisions,

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>picking music, helping with fonts, you know, all that stuff

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that goes into these specials. You don't think about my

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 1>team as they say, loops her into everything. She's very

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>much a part of things more than people realize. So

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's just wants me to succeed and be happy,

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's what you want, you know, I want her

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to be happy where I'm always like, what can we

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>do to give you balance? You know, if you don't

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>want to go on the road, don't. Let's find things

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>that are important to you and things like that. You know,

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and do you guys, how do you guys handle any

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>friction in your relationship when that comes up? Or does

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it not come up? Do you not have any friction

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>every I mean, I don't know any couple that doesn't.

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I was just pretending to ask the question. I didn't

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>mean that. Yeah, I mean, we we definitely have our

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>moments like everybody, but I try with her because she

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>is my wife. We got married two years ago. Even

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're like or disagreeing or fuss in at each

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>other or getting at each other's nerves, try never to

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>be mean, you know what I mean, or say mean

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>things because those things are hard to walk back. But

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that's not your personality anyway, right, that's my personality. You're

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>just you would never be mean. I don't know, I

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>don't I've never seen I'm sure. I'm sure I've been

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>a dick plenty here right now, say something mean, Yeah,

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the accident. But I get on her nerves

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>for sure, I'm a little I definitely have tunnel vision

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to my career, and I have to

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>really make myself step outside of myself sometimes to be

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>like you are being too I on the prize, Like

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>you have a wife, you have other people in your

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>life you have to think about. You cannot just be

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>thinking about a dog that needs to be brushed. Yes,

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I have to press feed my dog. You know what

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm because you get so wrapped up in work. No,

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I get it. I know there. I'm always there. I

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>have to always remind myself to have a life. I mean,

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>even though it doesn't look that way from afar, It's

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>an internal struggle I have all the time, you know.

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>And I never want her to feel neglected or like

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting our relationship as a priority. So and

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm guilty of for sure, like getting too much

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>tunnel vision with my career that sometimes I'm like, oh, shoot,

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I did it. I should have been better about her birthday,

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, things like that. I don't want to be

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>that person that neglects my person because of career, because

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I do want to

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>be successful, but I don't want that to be everything

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it can't be everything. I have to have balance. Yeah,

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>so that's my challenge. Yeah, I think that's very relatable

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>to anybody in this industry. You know, it's like ambition

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>versus balance, because ambition is you want to remain relevant,

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>right and you want to have people asking you to

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>do things, and you want things to not be as

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>challenging as they were. But I think as you become

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>more and more successful, it's like there's different sorts of

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>challenges and it's it never seems to this business, it

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>never seems me enough, you know what I mean, Like

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>for your own self, but for even other people. Like

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I can be like, oh, I've got a special coming

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>out and an action series and people are like what else?

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Why is that not enough? But it never feels like

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>there's enough, Maybe because we consume so much so quickly

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>now with entertainment, it just seems like everyone's like what next,

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>What next? One next? That you feel like you can't

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>even stop and breathe to like enjoy what you just did.

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>You're like thinking about the next thing. So that will

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>be the thing in my relationship that I have to

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>really pause and make sure I don't get too stuck

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 1>on that career stuff that I'm making the person that

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I love feel like they're not a priority. Yeah, And

0:31:58.480 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>do you guys, have you guys ever been to counsel

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>couple's counseling? Early on, we went to a couple of

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>sessions because I was in therapy. I originally went to

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>therapy to get to the bottom of why I was

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>choosing the women I was choosing, why I was putting

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>up with certain things and not thinking more highly of

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>myself in that way. So she came and did a

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>few sessions with that therapist that I was with at

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the time, but we haven't That was a guide ecologist

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>by the way, It wasn't a therapist. I'm just here

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to tell you that I referred you to her and

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that was alogist. Well it all checked out clear, maybe

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>all clear, So she proceeded with caution. Uh no, we

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't done it since, but I would be open to it,

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I think it doesn't it couldn't hurt.

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine it would help with your communication in general.

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>If there's any anybody that's feeling like they can't say something,

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I would hope that would be the place you could. Yeah,

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I was watching that show A Couple of Therapy that

0:32:58.360 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about. Have you ever seen that on

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>show time? A couple of Therapy. It's like a real,

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>real life couples with this therapist. I love that ship.

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>I fucking love watching couples in therapy because you see

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the transformation that happens, and you see when there's no

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.720
<v Speaker 1>hope for a couple where somebody's just done and the

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>other person. But sometimes it seems that way in the beginning,

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and then they come together and then it's really about

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>listening to the other person. Some people can't hear, you know,

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>like when there's conflict, they just shut down and they

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>can't hear what the other person is saying, and then

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that becomes that cycle. But anyway, speaking of counseling, we're

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna start counseling right now because that's what we're doing.

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>People call in for advice. So, Katherine, what do we

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>have on deck for this afternoon? We have some bad parents,

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>is what we have? Kinky kinky parents. I mean, actually

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>one of there might be something, but we'll take a

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>quick break and we'll be right back with some callers

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and we're back. We're back fortune still the tub. So

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm back alone. Oh there she is, She just puffed out.

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Let me just put my towel on. Hold on, I'm

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>ready for amazing. Well, don't forget to hang up your

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>LUFA and our first emails from Tarran Terreen says, Dear Chelsea,

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>my name is Tarran and I'm a thirty or four

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>year old lesbian from Atlanta, Georgia. I'm set to get

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>married to the love of my life this year. We

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>are both absolutely thrilled to finally be getting married, as

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>we've been engaged for almost three years and together for five.

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 1>My immediate family shares our excitement and has been nothing

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>but supportive of us. However, her parents do not have

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>the same feelings, and we've been led to believe that

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>they will not be attending our wedding. This thought absolutely

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.240
<v Speaker 1>breaks my heart because I've grown to know her family

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and love them dearly. What's even more heartbreaking is having

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to listen to my fiance as she tries to navigate

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>how to talk to her parents. They have said they

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about it, but have made zero effort

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>in discussing details about our wedding and state only vague

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>religious reasons as to why they're not supportive. My question

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>is this, do you think I need to try and

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>say anything to her parents or should I continue to

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.280
<v Speaker 1>stay on the sidelines and just be an emotional support

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 1>for my fiance. She's let me know she doesn't want

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>me to talk to them about it, and I should

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>let it go. But I can't help but hurt for her,

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and I wonder if talking to them might help them

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>see a different perspective. I absolutely love your podcast, and

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I highly appreciate any advice you have for me. Taran See,

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm always an interloper. I like to get into people's

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>business and get involved. So I don't know that this

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>is the right advice for you, but okay, so yeah,

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>fortunately you give the advice, I'll go after you. I

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:46.280
<v Speaker 1>just I always overstep and it's not always received warmly,

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>so I can't say that it's the right thing to do.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>But I would make a case in writing about the

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>impact that this is going to have on I would

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>write an email. Yeah, I would just be like, this

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is going to be forever. We're gonna get married and

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you are going to forever. Have missed that moment in

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>your child's life and what you're foregoing like not with

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the idea that the outcome was going to be to

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>change their mind, but to just try everything possible to

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>persuade them to reconsider one of the most important moments

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>in their daughter's life. How about your fortune? Well, I mean,

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I can totally see you doing that because

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.919
<v Speaker 1>you're there's nothing that you're going to not speak out about.

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the beauty of you. If you see something, you

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>say something you do like if you see something that's wrong,

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you're like, I don't, this isn't right, which is great.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm a bit more passive in my opinion, I would

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>be more of the support system for the partner because

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 1>she said that she doesn't want her to speak out,

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Like, but I also from

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>my experience with people in the gay thing and the

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>religious thing together, whatever she's right is gonna write, it's

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>not going to change their mind right now. I think

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>people have to evolve eventually or not. She could write

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the letter, I don't. I guess if you thought, what's

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>the worst that will happen, they're already not coming right,

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>so there is kind of nothing to lose. Ish But

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to me, I I don't think it will change their opinion.

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to the wedding, because those deep seated

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 1>religious beliefs take a while to unravel, that's for sure. Yeah,

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and they do unravel. Yeah, people are gonna evolve or

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>see how happy you are. But also, it's your day,

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it's your wedding day. It's about you too, And do

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you want that there? Do you even? I know it's

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 1>sad for your partner, but do you want someone there

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't wish you? Well, yeah, that's a good point, actually,

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But I think who wouldn't want their parents there? I

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>get that too. Obviously it's sad no matter what. But

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I would want my parents there for sure. But I

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know how good it would feel seeing them across

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the room eating a slider, looking like they hate every

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>moment of being there. Yeah, but if you think about it,

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 1>and they they stared together for many years, and then

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 1>there's always that gaping whole of their wedding day that

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>they're her parents missed. It's like they're missing out on

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the rest of her life in a sense, like they're

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>missing this real pivotal moment. And I would want to

0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>lay it out to give you every last opportunity to

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>make sure you don't miss that even if it's just

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the mother who came or the father who came, or

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>whoever's less religious or I don't know, you know how

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to frame it. But I mean I would do it,

0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not recommending that you do it, because I

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>just can't control myself. Well. Also, if you do do it,

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>if you want to write that email, do it with

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the expectation of having no expectation. Yeah, absolutely, I agree

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>with that advice. Yeah, just and softly with love. Yeah.

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>You can't be like you did this, you did that.

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:01.959
<v Speaker 1>It has to be like paneled with some kid gloves. Yeah.

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that Terrence said she also cares for

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>these parents, I think is a really good sign. You know.

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>She's not like, oh, I hate them, they're terrible. She's like, no,

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I also care for them, and it hurts me that

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't be there. I do love the idea of

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>writing a letter so it's not as like heightened emotions.

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I don't understand why people think

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 1>that this, like sitting out a moment in their kid's life,

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 1>is going to punish them or teach them a lesson,

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>or that they're not participating, that it's going to change

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>any results. I don't know that they think that. I

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>think they just think this is sacrilegious, Like I can't

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>lay witness to this because it's not under my belief system.

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they're trying to teach them a lesson.

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:45.279
<v Speaker 1>It's more like we can't sully ourselves with this kind

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of sing I'm not going to get into heaven if

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I go to this, right, yeah, yeah, maybe an email.

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe I'm coming around on this. Maybe an email.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, don't what Chelsea, right, Sorry, what the

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>fuck is wrong? I would handle it because at the

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, there are her parents. I would

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>handle it as respectful as possible, and they are going

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 1>to be your in laws for many years to come.

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that means to like not ever

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>push back against it. Goodness knows, I have pushed back

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 1>against things with my own in laws. But at the

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 1>same time, I do have the expectation and I know

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>that they're going to be in my life for a

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>very long time. So what I say or do, it

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 1>lasts and it matters. But if there is one thing

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.280
<v Speaker 1>that either of you would say, if these parents decide

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>not to go to the wedding unfortunately kind of touched

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>on this, But is there something that you would say

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to help this couple kind of feel better about the outcome. Well,

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing I would say for any event

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>where you're disappointed and something that's not there. You have

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>to celebrate the people that are there. You know. It's like,

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 1>if you don't sell out a show, you can't be

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>worried about the hundred tickets that aren't sold. You have

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to worry about the fifteen hundred tickets that are sold

0:40:58.040 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>and the people that paid money to see you come.

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>And in the case of a wedding, you have to

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 1>think about all of the people that are there supporting

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you and loving you, and that if you go to

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>someone's wedding, you're usually going to be friends with that

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>person for a very long time. You know, that's an

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.919
<v Speaker 1>investment into a friendship and that's a beautiful thing. And yeah,

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>as fortune step, you just have to think of it

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>as like negative energy. We don't want that there on

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>our special day. We want people that are applauding us

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.439
<v Speaker 1>and like supporting us. And to focus on that love

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>and to keep reminding yourself of the gratitude you have

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>for all the people that are there. Yeah, I mean

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I had a wedding party. We got married in Covid

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and had a wedding party a year later, and there

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 1>were a couple of family people that couldn't come for

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 1>various reasons. And I was focused at first on that,

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>being a bummer and being like disappointed in that, and

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>then I finally had to let it go and it

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.800
<v Speaker 1>ended up being such a special night and had so

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>many friends there and love and the friends that couldn't come,

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I heard from and you have to just

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 1>lean into that love. And the positive part of it

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 1>is at the end of the day, you met someone

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you're marrying, And if you think about that, it's like,

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>it is so hard to find a person that you

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>want to settle down with and that wants to settle

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>down with you. Just finding each other was a miracle,

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a miracle. So lean into that and recognize that you

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>did it. You found someone you want to be with.

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>They love you, and that is the true celebration, and

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>all the other stuff is just you know, it's people

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>there loving even supporting you. That's the positive cherry on top.

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 1>But it is not what it's about. It's about YouTube.

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>It's funny to use the word miracle because Gwen Stefani

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>uses that word all the time, and I whenever I

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>see her, I always make fun of her. I'm like,

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>not everything is a miracle, Gwen, And she's like, meeting

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:45.919
<v Speaker 1>Blake was a mirror, and that happened. She goes, meeting

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Blake was a miracle. It's a miracle. I was like,

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>he was sitting right next to you on the voice.

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Why is that a miracle? And she's like, Chelsea, it's

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a miracle that I fell in love with him. I'm like,

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like I started think about him, like, yeah,

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe it is a recall. Maybe my cynical mind doesn't

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>believe in miracles, and maybe every little thing is a miracle.

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I think two people will come together and in that

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>way that you you really think you can spend your

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>life with this person. You're gonna wake up to this

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>person every day and not get tired of each other.

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 1>That's a miracle. Yeah, but you don't know that you're

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna get tired. You you might, yeah, you might,

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>but you're going into it thinking I think we could

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>do this. These two things had to line up for

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:29.320
<v Speaker 1>us to get to this point, and they're Gwen and

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Blaker seemingly very different on the outside. So in a way,

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.319
<v Speaker 1>that is kind of like who would have ever thought

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>her grown up in Anaheim him in Oklahoma that they're

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 1>passed with somehow cross like that. That's probably what she means. Yeah, yeah,

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's a miracle. It's miraculous. Just enjoy it, right,

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I guess right that email, I think that's what we

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 1>landed on. Yeah, and you can title the email every

0:43:55.920 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>day a miracle. Yeah, love is a miracle. Uh well.

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Our next question comes from Jazz. She's in her late twenties.

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>She says, Dear Chelsea, my parents have always pulled my

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 1>sister and I into their toxic, manipulative relationship. When we

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>were younger, they'd scream at each other, give each other

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the silent treatment, tell one another they were going to

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 1>move out, all right in front of us. My dad

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>made us unknowing accomplices in his affair. My mom would

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 1>use us as ponds during their fights. I'm now in

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>my late twenties, living independently for my parents, and I've

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 1>been working with an amazing therapist for the last two

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:40.760
<v Speaker 1>years on reparenting myself because of that. The most recent

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.760
<v Speaker 1>time my parents tried to pull me into their bullshit.

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes they're still doing this, I said enough is enough.

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I had a really uncomfortable conversation with my mom where

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I shared that I needed lots of space and that

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 1>moving forward, I'll be making choices to protect myself from

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>being pulled into their relationship troubles. They've been going to therapy,

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't seen much improvement on this specific topic.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.439
<v Speaker 1>During our infrequent phone calls, they'll slip in that they're

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>mad at each other for some reason, blah blah blah.

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been very open each time it happens that I

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear it. Here are the reasons why, etcetera.

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Here's the issue. My sister, who I rarely get to see,

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>invited my parents and I to Thanksgiving at her house

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>this year. I'd love to see my sister and her fiance,

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 1>but I just don't think my parents will be able

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to keep it together. The house will be in doesn't

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>allow for a ton of privacy, and they live out

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of nowhere, so I can't stay somewhere else.

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I know that if I go, I'll somehow get entangled

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 1>in their bullshit, if only from a spectator standpoint. They

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>don't really scream and fight in front of us anymore,

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 1>though I'm sure they still do this in private. Now

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>it's mostly underlying manipulation, giving each other the cold shoulder,

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>openly sending each other text like maybe I'll just move

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>out when I get home, which are easily seen on

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>my mom's phone from a distance because she has her

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>font up to a thousand. So what should I do?

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be around my parents together for

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that long, since I know the boundaries still aren't there.

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Is it shitty to just skip holidays and family gatherings

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.920
<v Speaker 1>until this is resolved, knowing it might never be resolved.

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to look back and think I missed

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>out on valuable time with my family. But I've also

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 1>been around enough fighting for an entire lifetime. Jess Hi,

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>jess Hi, Hi, that's so fucked up. Thank you? Oh

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 1>my god. I can't believe your parents are like act

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>like that. I know, yeah, I think they're doing their best,

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>but their best they're not talking about. I'm so sick

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of everybody saying that everybody is doing their best. Some

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>people are just coasting and like just getting by. Not

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody's doing their best. I mean, obviously they don't have

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:42.399
<v Speaker 1>the tools to be doing better, because otherwise hopefully they would.

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you don't have to give them that much credit.

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>How long have they been married? I think like twenty

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:53.720
<v Speaker 1>five years, so yeah, and they've never separated or anything

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. They separated there is like an affair in there.

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>So they separated during that time. It was obviously handled poorly.

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>We've never spoken about it really as a family. So

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and then they got back together just out of habit.

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 1>They're like, I guess you'll do exactly. And when you

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>started like setting the boundaries for them, how did they

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.040
<v Speaker 1>respond to that? It was really bad. There's actually been

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>an update since then. So they have been going to

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 1>counseling and they went like three times and they're like,

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>we're good. And they asked if I would come to

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the counseling with them. Wants to have me share the

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 1>boundaries in a facilitated way, because it was just hard

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>to share. And even in that facilitated way, they didn't

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>get it. They just kept saying like this is just

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>how we grew up and this is just how it is,

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and like it's so small, like this doesn't matter, but

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty intense. So I don't know. They just can't understand.

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just how they grew up. It does feel like

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 1>that older generation is less into therapy and more of

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 1>like you just gotta stick it out, and the rest

0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of us are like cup bait, jump ship. Yeah. It's like,

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you know when people think that it's like a fixed

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 1>state of being, It's like, no, you're in a state

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:07.399
<v Speaker 1>of mind that you've decided is a fixed state of being.

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a state. Everything is a state of mind. That

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>attitude and that disposition is like, that's not how you

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 1>have to be. You have other options, but they're like, no,

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 1>this is me. Yeah. And what I've been struggling with

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>is like I don't think that's my job to help

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>them through it, but do I just like not see

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 1>them until then, knowing that it could never get any better.

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>And all of my friends have awful relationships with their parents,

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>so nobody else, nobody else in my life knows how

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to handles either. So I don't know, Well, what about

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 1>your sister? Is she so she's okay with having Thanksgiving

0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 1>with them? Because I don't want you to miss out

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:42.880
<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving because your parents I just feel like you

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to flip your narrative. They are going

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to be the way they are, and I think you

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 1>have to try and have less of an impact on you,

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>especially around important holiday family times. This is an important

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.239
<v Speaker 1>holiday that I don't want you to miss because of that.

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I understand setting boundaries. I think that's totally health for

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year when it's not Christmas or whatever, Hanukah,

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever you celebrate, if there's a way that you can

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>go and and and just disengage when that happens and

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 1>not take it on so much yourself kind of I

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say disassociate because that can be a

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.359
<v Speaker 1>dangerous word, but just kind of take a step back

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and not let it affect you so much, knowing that

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>they're limited and that they're going to remain that way,

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and that you've said what you're going to say, and

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 1>just leaving the room when things are going for a

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:31.160
<v Speaker 1>walk outside when things get heated, and just being like

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I told you, guys, I don't want to be a

0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 1>part of this, and making sure that every time you

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.359
<v Speaker 1>remove yourself from the situation when you feel like you're

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 1>getting to a place where it becomes untenable for yourself.

0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:44.399
<v Speaker 1>M yeah, yeah, you don't want to miss a good

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>family drama Thanksgiving. I mean sometimes that is fun. Well,

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>it's that it's fun if you don't come from a

0:49:53.480 --> 0:50:00.040
<v Speaker 1>family like that, like you had an affair I And

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 1>it's sympathetic that their children have to set boundaries for them,

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, like way to parent your parents. You do

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you think that happens a lot? Yes, I feel. I

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>mean it sucks. It sucks. It's like you can't change them,

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 1>and you can't make them have a happy, healthy relationship.

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>And if they're not gonna divorce, you also can't change that.

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So I mean it is up to you to have

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>to either you don't go but again, like Chelsea said,

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you're missing out on these big family holidays, or you

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 1>go with again, like tapering your expectations of what's going

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to happen and trying not to let yourself get affected

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>so heavily by their energy and their actions towards each other.

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Fin any way, it's like be with your sister when

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you're they're focusing on that, you know, catching up there

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 1>and just letting mom and dad sort of hash it

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>out in the kitchen, you know, instead of like getting

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>in the middle, you can just be like I'm out,

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm just here for sweet potatoes. Yeah, or even any

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>time it comes up, or if there is a fight,

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>you put on a podcast and fucking listen to it,

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>or put on an album and listen to it. Sorry,

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing this. You don't have to let it

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>run you for during that time. It's it's actually a

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:18.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty good mental Jim exercise for you to be able

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to go to an event and let them kind of

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>do their thing. I mean, they've gotten the warning, so

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>they're probably gonna be on better behavior than they have been,

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:28.160
<v Speaker 1>even though their best behavior is still probably not going

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to be good enough. I think it's a good exercise

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 1>for you to be a little bit more tolerant, knowing

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that you've kind of drawn the lines, and then just

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 1>removing yourself when it becomes annoying or too much, just

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:41.359
<v Speaker 1>walking outside and going for a walk and coming back.

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>That sends the message also like cool it or I'm

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.800
<v Speaker 1>going to leave. What Fortune and Chelsea are saying echoes

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 1>something I talked about with my therapist recently, where we

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 1>were going home for a family thing, and I was

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 1>crying about like, well, what if I have to talk

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:58.279
<v Speaker 1>about this stuff with my family and they're gonna be

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 1>shitty about it, or if I don't, then they're going

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to talk behind my back. Blah blah blah, just you know,

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of be an emotional about family stuff. And my

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:09.439
<v Speaker 1>therapist said something that was so freeing, which was, yeah,

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 1>families talk shit, They're gonna do what they're gonna do,

0:52:13.320 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 1>regardless of what you have going on. Regardless sometimes of

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the boundaries that you've set, the only one we can

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:22.839
<v Speaker 1>control is ourselves. And so for me, it was such

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 1>a light to just be like, oh, that's just a thing.

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to let it activate my stuff. It

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to get through Timmy. And I love the

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>idea of just like sitting there with a little podcast

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and like taking a mental break, do a you know,

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 1>a headspace meditation, chill out for a little bit. Yeah,

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>just tell your parents you'd rather listen to Russian state

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 1>propaganda and then turn on Russian state news and then

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 1>listen to them fucking bicker at the table, you know,

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:55.439
<v Speaker 1>or put on my Netflix special good Fortune. But yeah,

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I think I just need to get comfortable like they

0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>get mad when we don't get pulled in, and I

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.839
<v Speaker 1>think I just need to be that's your thing. I'm

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>going to sit here and well people like that. I

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:08.360
<v Speaker 1>want a reaction, and if you stop giving them that reaction,

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 1>eventually they will stop. They want it first, but you

0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>got to kind of retrain them. But if you are

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.239
<v Speaker 1>reactive to what they're doing, they're doing it because they

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.400
<v Speaker 1>know they're going to get a response from you, and

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:22.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what they want. They because they're not getting stuff

0:53:22.280 --> 0:53:25.880
<v Speaker 1>from each other, so now they're putting the tentacles out elsewhere.

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>And you just have to not I know it's hard,

0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it requires self control on your part, but yeah, you

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 1>just can't give the reaction they want, or any reaction.

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, sweep Jata your mom and say beach Okay,

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe don't say that far, yeah, or saying I say

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 1>takes a mushrooms. It takes a mushrooms. Said, just sit

0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:56.759
<v Speaker 1>there and you'll have a great time no matter what.

0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Then to slip your parents some mushrooms. That's a good

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 1>idea too. I love this. I'm feeling much better about this. Yeah,

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 1>go with a good sense of humor. Yeah, treat it all.

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Be lighter yourself going to it. Don't go like dreading

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it just hung in mushrooms, air pods. Yeah, good fortunee

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 1>exactly for yourself. And then read it to them and

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>say it says you guys are getting to force fucking

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 1>fast track that ship. Play two truth and a lie, oh,

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>or your sister, and you can make a game out

0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:37.239
<v Speaker 1>of it. You know, you guys can have a nice

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>hidden game about how many times they get, you know,

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:44.400
<v Speaker 1>say something or light each other you every time your

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 1>mom brings up your dad cheating, you drink it will

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 1>be wasted. But yeah, I think I think you going

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 1>lighter to it might help your anxiety as well. Yeah,

0:54:57.719 --> 0:54:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I already feel better. I was not taking the light

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>approach at all. It was just like I'm gonna or

0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go. But yeah, because here's the

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 1>best part. You don't live with them, and you don't

0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with that all the time. You get

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:11.239
<v Speaker 1>to leave. Yeah, that should make you happy. You don't,

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you're not the person in that. I was just like,

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I want to I could pay eight

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:19.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars to watch people fight, or I could go

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 1>on a trip without these people and have a good time. Right, Well,

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to spend every holiday with them, Just

0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:27.920
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I don't spend every holiday with my family.

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:32.480
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make you a bad daughter, right. It might

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 1>trigger somebody telling me I'm a bad daughter, but no,

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:40.479
<v Speaker 1>that we already decided you. You're also entering your adult phase.

0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I used to spend on every holiday when I was

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>in my twenties, but once I hit my thirties, you're

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:47.840
<v Speaker 1>because I felt guilt. You don't have to spend a

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 1>real holiday with them. Yeah, and this is the first year.

0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's that like weird in between, like it's

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:56.359
<v Speaker 1>just expected. But choose one. I would go. I would

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:58.799
<v Speaker 1>do like every other one every year. Thanks, even when

0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you're Christmas the next sure, but that's up to you.

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 1>That's up to you. Totally off the next year. Yeah, yeah,

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and then you and your sister can like go to

0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Mexico with her fiancee next year. My sister is much

0:56:10.400 --> 0:56:19.319
<v Speaker 1>better about all of this. She just has no emotions. Yeah, amazing. Well,

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Jas. I appreciate you calling in and sharing

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:23.359
<v Speaker 1>this with us because I think it's going to help

0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. A lot of people have questions.

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe not as bad behavior as your parents, but similar questions. Well,

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:32.600
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for the advice. I really appreciate it.

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome to Happy Thanks, thank you, bye bye. Oh

0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 1>she's so sweet. Yeah yeah, couples like that need to

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.920
<v Speaker 1>do m d M, a therapy where they're both on

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Molly and then all of a sudden create some new

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:53.200
<v Speaker 1>neural pathways. Yeah. Yeah. Also there walking around naked. That's

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 1>a thanksgiving. That sounds great. Well, we'll take a quick

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.400
<v Speaker 1>break and we'll be right back to app up with

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Fortune and Chelsea. And we're back Fortune. We're back with Fort.

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, ladies. Fortune. Do you have any advice you'd

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:17.480
<v Speaker 1>like to get from Chelsea? Well, it kind of stemming

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 1>off of what we were talking about earlier before we

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 1>took the calls, I was gonna ask you if you

0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>did recommend a couples therapy because I feel like it

0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 1>has that like negative connotation of like you only go

0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:31.240
<v Speaker 1>if there are problems. But I've been hearing more and

0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>more people lately talk about that it that it's shouldn't

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>be like treated like that, that you should go even

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 1>if your relationship is good and healthy, that it can

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>help you in ways you never thought, And I had

0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 1>never thought about it like that until I recently heard that,

0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I was just curious. Yeah, I think so.

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's very proactive because it's helps with communication, because,

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:53.680
<v Speaker 1>like you have to understand, as healthy as your relationship,

0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe two different people come from two different backgrounds and

0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 1>have two completely separate histories and two different ways of

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>viewing things, and it's only advantageous to learn about how

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody else sees things. You can only learn from that.

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And the strongest connection with people is communication like that

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:14.040
<v Speaker 1>is the number one ingredient to be able to communicate

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 1>in a loving, calm way even when conflict arises, because

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna arise. Something will happen where there's conflict at

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 1>some point, and when you have the tools to deal

0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 1>with that, it doesn't become a hurdle. It just becomes

0:58:26.240 --> 0:58:29.400
<v Speaker 1>like almost an opportunity to grow closer, you know. And

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that kind of connection, especially with a

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 1>third party, really can bring people together when both people

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 1>are very open to hearing about the other person's perceptions

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and experiences. So I am a total you know, I

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 1>don't think I'll date anyone who hasn't been to therapy

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<v Speaker 1>or who isn't open to go into therapy. I think

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<v Speaker 1>both of us would be open to it, but neither

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<v Speaker 1>of us have really taken that seriously or or approached

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<v Speaker 1>each other about it because we didn't want the other

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<v Speaker 1>person to assume there was an issue. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so there. I feel like sometimes we just don't say

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<v Speaker 1>it because I'm like, I don't have an issue, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't, I think have an issue. So by us

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<v Speaker 1>bringing this up, are they going to think that we

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem in the relationship that we don't, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? So that's okay, I'll bring it up.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going a happy hour later, so I'll just bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up naturally and just suggest what she said. She

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<v Speaker 1>said it to me before, and I've been like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not like something she's against. I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it does have that negative thing around it. When

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<v Speaker 1>you say couples therapy, people automatically go, well, what's wrong? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not the king, you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>so at all. I think really smart people go and

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<v Speaker 1>like proactively go to get you know, so that you

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<v Speaker 1>have somebody and then it doesn't have to be like

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<v Speaker 1>a regular thing like you don't have to go every week.

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<v Speaker 1>You could go once a month. But when there is

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<v Speaker 1>a conflict or a crisis or something comes up, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you can lean on someone and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you have that at your disposal, which is always just

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<v Speaker 1>I think, such a huge advantage, you know, to know

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<v Speaker 1>some you have somebody you can lean on for those

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. Yeah, right, well, there you go, and

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<v Speaker 1>that wraps up this episode of Dear Fortune Cookie. Fortune Cookie,

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget to watch Fortune Special, her latest special on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>Good Fortune. There's snuggling happening. I can't wait for you

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of our thriple. We are to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to our therapist about it, about inviting somebody. And thank you, Fortune,

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<v Speaker 1>We love you, thanks for having me love you. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. So if you'd like advice from Chelsea,

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