1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: To the side with a chain or a guide breaks 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: on a Nissan. They're bendable motors. They've all been so 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: at that point, your your Nissan is now nothing more 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: than a four wheeled flower pot. The Car Doctor. I 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: yet to have anybody show me in my face an 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: oil filter wine from any manufacturer that has longer than 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: a six to seven thousand mile oil drain interval. Welcome 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five six And 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: now are you stuck up? Half witted looking? He is 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: running Hey hey, my one of my favorite lines. Hey, 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Ron and any and the Guard Doctor. Welcome, come on 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: and stood down. I was just watching Empire Strikes Back today. 18 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: It's very funny that we're that we're we're into this 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Star Wars opening today, and I think Tom Ray for 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: that is always his great openings. Just uh, I look 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: forward to them each and every week. So anyway, I'm 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: here for you, and I look forward to talking to 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: each and one of each and every one of you 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: each and every week. And UM, I am running then 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor. The phone number is eight five 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: five five zero nine nine zero zero here to talk 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: to you about your car. If you don't know that 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: by now, if you're if you're a regular, you should 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: know that that this radio show is really to help 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: answer and solve your questions and your problems. UM. Pretty 31 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: much like the customer that came into the shop this week, Elizabeth, 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: she had a ninety eight Honda accord that blew one 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: of the main break lines going down along the floor pan. 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: And to replace it. By the time you buy all 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the lines from Honda, install them, reroute a few things, 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: it's probably a two thousand dollar repair. She decided it 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: was time to replace this three hundred thousand mile accord. 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: And you know the guidance that I gave her and 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: making a car purchase decision and things to look for 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: and conversations and the different brands that I are, you know, 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: my particular like list right now, UM that that's really 42 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: what I did for her. That's what I want to 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: do for you, because um, you know that's what this 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: radio show is all about, just trying to help you 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: make a decision, trying to help you understand the car, 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: because I know it's a very complex, very difficult to 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: deal with item in your everyday life today. And that's 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: just the way it is. That's the technology of it, 49 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: and that's you know. I'm just here to help you 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: sort out the technology and the mechanical nuts and bolts 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: as it were, and to help you make it to 52 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: the point where you can understand it. There are times 53 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't understand it, so you know, trust me. If 54 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: if I have a problem, then you're gonna have an 55 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: even bigger problem. I worked on a Volkswagen this week. 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you this story second. Now I'll 57 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: tell you this story this hour. Um, I worked on 58 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: a Volkswagen this week. Um, don't say this to anybody, 59 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: and don't don't don't say it too loud. I think 60 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm starting to enjoy working on Volkswagens. I can't. I 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: can't figure out why I had a I had a 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: two thousand three Volkswagon Golf this week and it needed 63 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: a timing belt. Well, actually what happened was a little 64 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: too leader. It came in with an overheating complaint and 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: one of the problems that's common on these And you know, 66 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: I guess the reason I'm starting to like Volkswagon as 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm starting to understand them, because they're so easy to 68 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: pick on. They make it. They make it so simple 69 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: to say, what a piece of junk it's. You know, 70 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: it's just the impeller for the water pump. And this 71 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: has been going on. This is not news. This has 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: been like this for years. The the impeller, the piece 73 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: that spins that circulates the coolant on this particular Volkswagen, 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: like a lot of them, is made out of plastic. 75 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: It's a plastic impeller and they're known. They fall off, 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: they get loose, they stick, they go, and they do 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: anything but circulate cooling day for so many miles, and 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: you have to replace them. Well, you know, this one 79 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: was no different. Car came in with an overheat complaint 80 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: that had no heat, and then it would have heat, 81 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: and then it didn't have heat. Pulled the thermostat out. 82 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: If you pulled the thermostat out, you can stick your 83 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: finger in the hole and feel the impeller, and sure enough, 84 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: the impeller spun all by itself, which would be great 85 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: if the timing belt wasn't on the car. But since 86 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: the timing belt drives the water pump. Oops, you know, 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: the plastic impeller is is loose. In order to do 88 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: a water pump on a Volkswagen, this one and a 89 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: lot of them, you've got to take the timing belt off. 90 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: So it's sixty miles this time. Will do a time 91 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: belt anyway on this you know two thousand three swords 92 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: it almost fourteen year old Volkswagen. Um, let's let's do 93 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: a timing belt. You take the timing belt apart, and 94 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're looking for the marks, and yep, there 95 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: it is. There's the white mark and there's the but gee, 96 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: the the crank doesn't line up. No, that's got to 97 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: be the mark. You look at it three times, that's 98 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: got to be the market. You bring the flywheel around 99 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: because on Volkswagen. See, Volkswagen wants to save money on 100 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: timing marks. They don't want to have a guy stand 101 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 1: there and stamp the mark on the front of the motor. 102 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: They want the camp sprocket i D mark on one side. 103 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: They want the cranksprocket i D mark on the trans slide, 104 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: so you're looking between the two. This side is here, 105 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: this side is there. I'm not sure why they do 106 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: it this way, but you know, if any bag of doughnuts, 107 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: that's just the way they do it. So you know, 108 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: you find the mark on the other side, and you go, Okay, 109 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: that's it. There's a there's a notch and you take 110 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: the belt off. Now, when I take timing belts off, 111 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: and I've done more than a few, they don't pop. 112 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I haven't had it where the camp sprocket goes and 113 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: kind of is sprung. It's not under load. Usually you're 114 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: you're catching it in a in a in a in 115 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: a dead spot, in a flat location. Well, that wasn't 116 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: the case. And when I saw the camp Sprocket jump, 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: I went, oh, man, I bet that wasn't the timing mark. 118 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: Sure it looked like the timing mark, but I bet 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't the timing mark. Did a little more digging, 120 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: took the sprocket, took the camp sprocket and found another 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: mark on it, another mark that had no paint, which 122 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: was unusual because usually the notch in the sprocket is 123 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: accompanied by a paint dot of some type, and I said, gee, 124 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: I guess the only way I'm gonna know this is 125 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to look at the and I put 126 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: it back together. I put the timing cover back on 127 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: on the front side, and there's an approximation mark. I 128 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: call it because it's it's approximate. It's it's it's there 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: for the concept of depending upon how you tighten the 130 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: alan screws going into the balance, or whether or not 131 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: it's true top. So put it there and I went, wow, 132 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: it's not even close. But yet there's a mark on 133 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: the flywheel. Long story short, I come to find out 134 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: that the mark on the flywheel was a false mark. 135 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Somebody must have taken it apart at some point and 136 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: put it a notch into the flywheel. It wasn't stamped properly. 137 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: And I wun the flywheel around and low and behold, 138 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: I found the zero mark. I found the exact zero 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: mark that looked like I remembered it. And when I 140 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: did that, I lined up the camp sprocket and put 141 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: it together and it worked. That isn't the point of 142 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: the story. When I pulled the water pump out of 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: the block. Remember I was doing a water pump, and 144 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: I got sidetracked by the timing marks that weren't there. 145 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: When I pulled the water pump out of the block, 146 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: the water pump came out and there was nothing on 147 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: the other end. I went, gee, where's the impeller. Where's 148 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: the piece that's supposed to spin around it circulates the 149 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: cool one? And I stuck my finger in the hole 150 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: and I pulled it out and there it isn't two halves. Now, 151 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I know you guys think I 152 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: don't like Volkswagen. I'm trying to be democratic about it, 153 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: said Volkswagon. Well how he started by saying he does 154 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: like volks I'm starting to think I do like Volkswagen. 155 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: But then I look at how do you design something 156 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 1: with a plan a stick impeller in a cooling system, 157 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: expecting it to last? And I'm thinking, you know, this 158 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: was the same engineer that created the emission scandal. The 159 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: guy had nothing else to do that day, figured he 160 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: put a plastic impeller on the water pump. When the 161 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: water pump failed, the engine overheated, it blew up. They 162 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: drive up sales. I think it's a plot, Like what 163 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: are they thinking? I'm starting to like working on Volkswagens 164 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: more because I'm starting to understand how they think. They 165 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: think badly. Um, you know, it's just it's just the 166 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: way they are. Long story short, and I've said that already. 167 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: Cars only as good as the way it's engineered, but 168 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: the way the engineer puts it together makes it more 169 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: difficult for the mechanic. Last week on Facebook, I was 170 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: talking about something about the way a particular car was 171 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: put together, and somebody actually wrote on the Facebook post 172 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: they said, Wow, I love it when mechanics call out engineers, 173 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: and I promptly wrote back, Gee, if you really want 174 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: to get a good laugh, you should be a mechanic 175 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: for forty three years and see what it feels like, 176 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: because you'll die laughing. The point is engineers make mistakes, 177 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: and engineers make mistakes based on what the marketing and 178 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: the accounting department tells them they're allowed to put in 179 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: the car. That's my belief. They're governed by dollars, they're 180 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: not governed by common sense. The day and age of 181 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: building to build it to last is so far gone 182 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: it just doesn't exist anymore, and we see it everywhere 183 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: in everyday life. From buying rubber made garbage cans to 184 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: the local hardware store, to buying the same garbage can 185 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: at home depot, and they're the same brand, same model, 186 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: and yet one weighs half as much as the other 187 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: because Home Depot has got their own brand of garbage cans. 188 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: Things are not made to last. Volkswagen water pumps were 189 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: never meant to go to the distance. Here's one of 190 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: fifty eight thousand miles. The impeller fell off, and yet 191 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: to do this you have to go through this whole 192 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: rigular role of pulling the whole front of the motor 193 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: apart in timing, belt and tension er. And where am 194 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: I going with this conversation? No, we're really I just 195 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: wanted to explain to you that I sort of like 196 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: volkswagons Again. Um, I've got more stories like this this week. 197 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I've got all kinds of things I want to talk 198 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: to you about. I want to make you aware that 199 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: if you're working on a car and you think things 200 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: are going along really well, well that's the story for 201 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: the second hour that I was gonna tell. The first hour. 202 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about the Toyota and how things 203 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: go bad with because everyone's in a while, things go 204 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: bad on Toyota's too. Um, So we'll talk about that 205 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: a little bit later on this hour, maybe next hour. UM. 206 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: I also want to comment. I gotta I got an 207 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: email from a listener about Toyota hybrids. They want to 208 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: talk to me about a Toyota Hybrid. They want to 209 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: know what I think about them. I've got some thoughts 210 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: on that. I went and I talked to a couple 211 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: of guys that work on them every day and get 212 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: their thoughts and their opinions. So, if you're in the 213 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: market for a Toyota Hybrid, because that's where this conversation 214 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: started about buying cars, um, we're gonna talk about that 215 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: this hour. But I am here at nine zero to 216 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: take your calls and answer your questions, and we're gonna return. 217 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna open the garage doors and go right to it. 218 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I'll be right Backbuybuy, look at Frosty Go. 219 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back of the car Doctor. By the way, tom, Um, 220 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: can I have off in two weeks? Maybe a coda Tony. 221 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: Do you think we should give him any time off? No? 222 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: Because I you know the fact guy in the red 223 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: suit keeps calling me something about putting a sleigh together, 224 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, again, we gotta go through this 225 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: drama that last year. Well I got through it every year. 226 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: You know it's it's it's listen. Are you giving them 227 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: a voteswagon? No? No, no, Santa has been good. Are 228 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: you gonna be taking the vage wagon out of the 229 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: bags for the so he doesn't drop them off to 230 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: people's houses? See you guys, you guys don't understand. Volkswagen 231 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: is the president of choice for those not on the 232 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: good list. Oh now we we well we we We 233 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: thought those people actually got Cleveland brown stuff. No, no, no, 234 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: no no. The people below you see, and the people 235 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: below the Volkswagen people, they get season tickets to the 236 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: Jets games. Let's go over and open the phone lines. 237 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: Let's go over and open the phone lines. Ouch. And 238 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: I used to be I used to be a Jets fan. 239 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: They used to have a football team. I third I 240 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: heard somewhere. Let's go and talk to Richard and Hastings, Michigan. Richard, 241 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor s or just goofing around? 242 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: How can I help you today? Oh? I'm just listening 243 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: to you. Um I got a two thousand two Shivy 244 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: UH three quarter ton heavy duty UH truck pick up 245 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: and I'm having trouble with the brakes. I did a 246 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: complete break job. And before I did the break job, 247 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: I had this problem when you come up to a 248 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: stop sign and just before you get ready to stop, 249 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: it goes rear and then it jerks you off to 250 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: the right. Something with the A B S. I know that, yes, yes, 251 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: and and the way. Okay, so what what what what's 252 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: happening is you're getting a false ABS event. Did you 253 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: have the problem before the brake repair? Yes, I did. 254 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: That's why I thought. Well, I put it in my 255 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: garage and put it up on the hoist, pull the 256 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: wheels off, and I looked at the brakes. I said, 257 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: m yes, break job on it. You know, regular breakes 258 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: and and and and the way I tell everybody if 259 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: you want to verify, um, you know, if if you 260 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: want to verify, improve it to yourself. It's an A 261 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: B S event. Although it sounds like it is because 262 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're kind of getting that. It's it's 263 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: it's it's like you're driving on a washboard road effect. Correct, Yeah, okay, 264 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: you know the way if if you want to prove 265 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: it to yourself, then go find one of the A 266 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: B S sensors. And you know what I was gonna 267 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: say was disconnect one, disconnect one. Just disconnect it disconnected 268 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: and the problem will go away. And I'm not saying that. 269 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that as a as a permanent solution. 270 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you want to try an inexpensive method 271 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: to proof to yourself that you're you're right in chasing 272 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: A B S, then disconnecting the sensor will then put 273 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: the system into bypass and and prevent A B S 274 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: from working. So then it will function with just regular breaks. 275 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: Knowing that once you do that, and and you can 276 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: then sit there and say, you know, hey, it's it's 277 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: it's it's now normal breaks, and you know for sure 278 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: at that stage it's it's an A B S problem. 279 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Then we can have the conversation about you know, looking 280 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: at wheel speed sensors and and and so forth, because 281 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: they are notorious. What you're going through is very notorious. Now, 282 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: if you have the ability before you disconnect that A 283 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: B S sensor, I don't know if you do. If 284 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: you have a scan tool, it would be nice if 285 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: you could scan and see do you have any fault codes? 286 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: Do you have a two sixty nine or two seventy 287 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: four or anything like that? A BS censor related? Okay, 288 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: anything in there has a grade. You couldn't find nothing wrong? Okay, Well, 289 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: but did he scan did he scan the A B 290 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: S control module or did he did he scan the 291 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: E C N underneath? Okay? And which module did he 292 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: go into? And how many? Okay? Well, because the problem 293 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: may not be in the censor. The problem maybe in 294 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: the air gap that the censor rides against. That's that's 295 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: underneath the censor, inside the wheel hub, the area, the area, 296 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: the area where the censors were, Ye are they rusty? Um? 297 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: I cleaned them all off? Okay, right, But now the 298 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: problem is is one higher or lower than the other 299 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: in reference to the tone ring? Right? See? The issue 300 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: is the issue is that the height of the sensor 301 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: away from the too thring has to be the same 302 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: side to side and front to back, and if it's different, 303 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: it will produce a slightly different signal. That Well, the 304 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: first thing you've got to do is right, The easiest 305 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: way is I would I would crack out of This 306 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: is a case where and I don't say it often, 307 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: but I would crack out a lab scope and I 308 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: would I would put a signal trace up of each 309 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: sensor and lay him out against themselves. You're not gonna 310 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: be able to catch You're not gonna be able to 311 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: catch the sensors fast enough on a scan tool. No 312 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: scan tools fast enough. You need to look at this 313 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: on a lab scope. You're looking at the size of 314 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: the signal and the frequency of of it, of it 315 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: crossing its center line, amplitude and size. As they say, 316 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: all right, now, after I did my brakes and stuff, 317 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: the wife and I took UH truck and we went 318 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: for about oh over there and back for about a 319 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: hundred miles, and it was fine. And as I was 320 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: pulling UH with my pickup, and as I was pulling 321 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: back down my little road here, I was going real slow. 322 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: My A B S light come on, My brake light 323 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: come on, and I pulled into my driveway and I 324 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: had brakes, and then so I shut it off and 325 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: let us set her a few minutes, turned back on, 326 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: and the a BS went off and the brake light 327 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: went off. Have you scanned it since then? Okay, scan it? 328 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: There may be something in there. You've got you you've 329 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: got an A B S issue going on, Richard, It's 330 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: that simple. Do you understand? You understand? Do you understand 331 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: what I mean when I say an A B S? Event? Yep? 332 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: The computer, the computer thinks one of the wheels front 333 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: or back is approaching lock up? All right? Now, where's uh? 334 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: Is there a A B S censor on the back 335 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: there there? There should be. It's either I don't believe 336 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be single. I don't believe this is 337 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: a four wheel censor vehicle. This is a sensor in 338 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: the left and the right front and a sensor in 339 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: the differential. They're picking it up off of a sensor 340 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: in the differential. As far as lock up for the rear, generally, 341 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: that's how they do it now. Two thousand two later 342 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: on they went to a four channel system. But I 343 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: don't think that's the way you have it. So you'll 344 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: have to crawl into the truck and see what sensors 345 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: you have and then work backwards from there. But when 346 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: you scope at a four channel scope, looking at three 347 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: or four sensors would be the ideal way to go. 348 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: Do that? Give me a call back? Zero nine zero 349 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: Parlan's Seagull of Launch is coming up next. Stay tuned. 350 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: One of the things about my favorite time of year, 351 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: this being my favorite time of your Hello, welcome Ron 352 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: and Atying the car Doctor, by the way, is my 353 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: next segment. I love talking to this man. He's one 354 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: of the smartest guys out there UM in the industry 355 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: today and UM I put a lot of pressure on 356 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: him and he always comes through with good answers and 357 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: good information when it comes to scan tools. This guy 358 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: knows what's going on. Harlan Siegel of Launch Harlem, Welcome back, sir. 359 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: How are you very good? Ron? Thank you for having me. 360 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: You know, how's UM? How's things over at launched? This year? 361 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: You guys have been very busy and setting the industry 362 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: on its on its collective hear what's new over there? 363 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: Actually quite quite a bit we had so far and 364 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: the year still still hot. Over an exciting year. Introduction 365 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: of new products, UH, new new horizons, new distribution. We 366 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: received a Frost and Sullivan Award for Value Leadership. A 367 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of positive things are moving us 368 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: forward the UM. You know. One of the things you 369 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: did this year, and you're the only ones that I 370 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: have seemed to do this is the X four thirty 371 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: one pro the new smaller tablet am I saying that, right, Harlan, 372 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: the is at the nine inch or the ten inch 373 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: whatever size that screen is. I you know, I mean 374 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm uh eight inch? Okay? Um. The O B D 375 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: two software that's in there, you're the only guys that 376 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: actually tell you if the you know, the information you're 377 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: looking at when you're looking at that a stream, If 378 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: if what you're seeing, if you know, if engine RPM 379 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: is is eleven hundred at IDLE and it's supposed to 380 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: be eight hundred, you flag it and read and give us, Hey, 381 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: here's the spec, here's what we're here's here's the generic 382 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: what we're looking for what it should be, which is 383 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: very handy. Um, you know, how do you do that? 384 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: Where do you come up with that? Absolutely? Well, what 385 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: we actually are using are the protocol guidelines for for 386 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: the range expectations, and when it either exceeds that or 387 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: is at the below the minimal level, we will flag 388 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: that red. And it's great for all markets because you 389 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: know it will alert you to something that you know, 390 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: you may be looking for a particular pit particular you know, 391 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: reading and you're scrolling through screens in the red allows 392 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: to It basically alerts you to something that you might 393 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: have missed, especially when we get into you know, more 394 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: of you know d I Y user. It certainly helps 395 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: out quite a bit. Oh yeah, well, you know, and 396 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: listen even for the non DI I Y what what what? 397 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: The first experience I had with it was I was 398 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: using it on a Toyota that I had a UM 399 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: I had a catalytic converter fault code issue going on, 400 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: and I'm going through O B D two and I'm 401 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: looking at it and I didn't notice it the first 402 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: pass through but one bank, and it turned out to 403 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: be the bank that I was worried about. The cat 404 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: on had to higher than normal fuel trim, and so 405 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was like bank to bank one was 406 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: five percent and bank to was. But when you're scrolling 407 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: by pits or whatever the number is, you don't tend 408 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: to notice. You're trying to get everything. That red caught 409 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: my eye and I went, wait a minute, why is 410 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: that one read? And then all of a sudden I 411 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: realized what you were doing. You're you're flagging at forest 412 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: that it's out of scale. It tracked it down. There 413 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: was a vacuum like there was a tiny little vacuum 414 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: hose off and had it not been for you know, 415 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean I would have gotten it eventually. There's you know, 416 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: you're you're getting deeper into the each solution, each problem. 417 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: But the fact that it flagged it in red just 418 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: made life so much easier for me. I said, why 419 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: isn't somebody Why hasn't somebody done this up till now? 420 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: I was. I was stunned. Um, uh, just just making 421 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: it easier. Will that software design or intention does that 422 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: follow over into your other scan tools as well? Will 423 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: it has it? It does on the professional line, So 424 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: the you're talking about the X four one pro I 425 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: Android eight inch said, we came out mid year this 426 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: year as well as the larger units similar some of 427 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: the products which is in a ten point one inch, 428 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: it does it on that as well, is on the 429 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: pad two. Yeah. Um, definitely clearly UM the way to 430 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: go in terms of making it easier for all of us. 431 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: And then from the d I wires perspective, Harlan, Um, 432 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, what do they have to look forward to 433 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: from launch? If I can, you know, it's the holidays 434 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: and everybody's looking for some last minute gift ideas. Is 435 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: there anything you know under five bucks? What can what 436 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: can the listeners go look for? If somebody out there 437 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: is on their list as a mechanic want to be 438 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: in Uh, they're looking for a tool. What a you 439 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: got in the grab bag? Actually we have we have 440 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: some really good offerings at some wonderful price points. Uh, 441 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: you know, starting at what we call the cee reader 442 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: five plus at uh is a list price, and that's 443 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: going to give that's going to give the user complete 444 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: access to generic O B D two so that would 445 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: be all makes and models, doesn't matter. And it's going 446 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: to give him a color screen, uh, two point four 447 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: in screen. It will be able to graph. It's it's 448 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: one graph, multi language. And also I am readiness monitors, 449 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: so so you know, and a nice little package for 450 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: on the seventy dollars is a wonderful stocking stuff. But 451 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: that is a stocking stuffer. Well, you know, I think 452 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: part of the issue is and tell me where your 453 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: thoughts are on this. We just had a call previously 454 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: from a gentleman who was working on an A B 455 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: S problem. I think part of the problem is everybody 456 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: assumes you plug in as he put it. He said, well, 457 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: he plugged into the connector under the dash and did 458 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: to come up with any codes. And my question was, 459 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: now he had an A B S problem. My question 460 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: was is he looking at the A B S module 461 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: Just because you plug in under the dash doesn't mean 462 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: you're getting all the information. And you know, I think 463 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: your solution, because I've noticed you do it, um among 464 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: the professional side, as you'll allow us to plug in 465 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: and run something called a quick test, and that polls 466 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: p O l ls, you know, pulls all the modules 467 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: on the vehicle and asks for code information and who's 468 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: got what where, and then that transformed then allows us 469 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: you know. So, so in his case, he would have 470 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: gone and plugged in, found an A B S fault 471 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: code in theory, and then gone right to that system. 472 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: And you've you've kind of made it a shortcut and 473 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: you've made it quicker to get into the diagnostic routine. Um. 474 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: One of the things I find, and I don't know 475 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: what you're experiencing, is a lot of people tend to 476 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: overlook O B D two. You know, O B D 477 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: two is there, You've got to use that, and then 478 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: manufacturer specific, you've you've got to use that as well. Correct, absolutely, 479 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: and uh, actually I'm glad you're bringing that up because 480 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: that is a popular call we get into our call center. 481 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: Because so many times it goes both ways. You know, 482 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: somebody may be using a an hand scan tool always 483 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: specific like our professional line and uh and and and 484 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: there may not be any codes yet. If you plug 485 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: in what one would understand as a less expensive generic 486 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: code reader or the generic software that's in all of 487 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: our pro line tools, a code appears because their base 488 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: really like two sides of a wall, and they don't 489 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: necessarily share anything. I mean, they could, but it's not 490 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: a guarantee. So you could have you know, a a 491 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: generic code we'll call it, you know, like for example, 492 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: an engine or powertrain, a P zero code will come 493 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: out on a generic side, and uh and and and 494 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: then it would be a P one code maybe even 495 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: similar on inn hand side, but not necessarily show back 496 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: up on the generic He actually need to access both, 497 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 1: you know, at at a higher level, and you just 498 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: it's come to the point where if you're d I wire, 499 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: you've gotta be able to get into the system. You know. 500 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: Tom tells me the story about his daughter and her 501 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: her escape when she has. She does little things when 502 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: she's away at school and she doesn't know and she'll 503 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: plug and read the code or Tom, you know, she'll 504 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: come home and Tom will read the code. A guy 505 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: like Tom or a person, and you need the ability 506 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: to read the code. But then the professional needs the 507 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: ability to read codes, to look at O B D two, 508 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: to look at manufacturer specific and to look at system 509 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: modules because the electron it's cure only growing in size, 510 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: and in terms of these cars today, it's it's not shrinking, 511 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's gonna be just ever so much more 512 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: in the future going down the road, where do you see, Harlem, 513 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: if I can get you to just you know, and 514 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: I know there's some things you can't talk about, but 515 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: if you were to predict two years from now, where 516 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: will scan tools be, where will we be? Will we 517 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: be bluetooth wireless in the car, not going to an 518 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: O B D two connector, but just connecting to something 519 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: behind the dashboard by a bluetooth method. Do you think, um, 520 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: do you see the point where it's you know, what's 521 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: the next evolution of scan tool gonna look like? Uh, yeah, 522 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's that's a constant engineering discussion, you know, 523 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: and and and the concerns of of wireless you know, 524 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: have to do with uh, you know, with the recent 525 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: noise of hacking and and and how that can be 526 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: fire world and and and to protect both the you know, 527 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: the controllers in the vehicle and also the you know, 528 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: the customer and their safety. So that that's always been 529 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: a big question, is the security the through wireless UH 530 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: communication being Bluetooth. But yet at the same time, you know, 531 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: there's discussions on a WiFi I mean, when you get 532 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: into some o E tools today, you know they're working 533 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: on WiFi communications. And then of course there's also discussions 534 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: maybe of a future state Ethernet where you plug in 535 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: an Ethernet cable into UH into a pot on on 536 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: the vehicle that might someday, let's say, replace UH possibly 537 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: what was what is the current sixteen pin you know, 538 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: because because we all know that, you know that sixteen 539 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: pin has been around since the early eighties and it 540 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: never was designed or actually not the sixteen pin originally 541 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: was it was a five pin but uh, but since 542 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: nineties to sixteen pin was never meant to carry the 543 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: information that we're doing today with these can systems. And 544 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: seventy two hundred plus UH computers talking together on the 545 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: same line that that that was that never was thought 546 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: to be so so so change is inevitable. It's going 547 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: to happen absolutely Yeah. Well, and you guys will be 548 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: right at the tip of it. Um, you know, real quick. 549 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: I have to tell you that the way you update 550 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: amazes me each and every time. Every time I turn 551 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: on my launch tool every morning, there's another update for 552 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: another application. Zip zip. It's very nice as a professional 553 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: to know that I'm working with the most current updated 554 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: software available to me. Um, you know. And it's a 555 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: simple flick of the button and turn it on and 556 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: download and off I go to work. Hey, Harlan, listen, 557 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: if the listeners want to get more information about launched product, 558 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: give me the website www dot launch tech us dot com. 559 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: That's l A U N C H T e C 560 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: H USA dot com and you've got uh information sheets, 561 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: even some videos and everything you need to know. And listen. 562 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: By the way, we should point that we'll talk about 563 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: this next time. I want to get you on in 564 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: the spring when we start thinking about tires. But that 565 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: tp MS tool of yours is just is just it's 566 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: it's an it's an underrated um sensation. It just works 567 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: so well. So we'll talk about that next time around. 568 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: A right, buddy, I do appreciate it didn't thanks so much, 569 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: run very well. I like what you're doing. Thank you, sir. 570 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: You take good care and we'll talk to you again 571 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: real soon. Eight five five zero zero zero. I am 572 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: Ron and any of the Car Doctor, and I'll be 573 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: back to talk to Tim and Michigan right after this. 574 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: You get in car Welcome back. We're on the end 575 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor rolling along here, Elvis included. Let's 576 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Tim and Michigan. Tim, Welcome 577 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help Hi? Ron? 578 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: My name is Tim from Michigan. How are you, sir? 579 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: What's going on? Good? I have a two thousand three 580 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: Honda Civic Lex. About six weeks ago, I you know, 581 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: I noticed that um my hub cap had braked us 582 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: all over it. So I went ahead and changed the 583 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: front brakes on both sides and the rotors, and uh, 584 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: I noticed that there was some rubbing on the right 585 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: side and it wasn't like a metal grinding. It just 586 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: sounded like almost like a deep like a rubber hitting 587 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: something at a rubber. UM. So I took everything back 588 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: off and I checked the brakes and everything everything looked great. 589 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Um uh checked the uh you know, make sure everything 590 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: was sprayed off and cleaned off real good. Um didn't 591 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 1: look like anywhere in tear on it. So I couldn't 592 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: understand what the rubber has come from. Made sure that 593 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: the brakes shield wasn't rubbing against the tire. But it 594 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: keeps happening. And so finally what I did is I 595 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: just kind of broke down wint to a mechanic and uh, 596 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, I had them listen to it. They took 597 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: everything off and they looked at the hubbarring and they said, no, 598 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: it looks good and the hubbarring looks straight. Took it 599 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: for a drive, couldn't hear anything, and uh, I picked 600 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: it back up, and I was I haven't around over 601 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: the weekend. I heard it again. It's almost as if 602 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: once it gets hot after driving it you that's when 603 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: you hear the sound only when you're trying to break 604 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: What was the noise there prior to the break work? 605 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: Tim it was and I just figured it was just 606 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: because the brake pads were low, so the noise medals medal. 607 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: So the noise was there prior to the breakework. Doing 608 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: the breakwork had no effect on it. It's still as 609 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: consistent or inconsistent as it was before. Absolutely no visible 610 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, no no visible play and in the hub 611 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: or the bearing anything like that, and none at all. 612 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: In fact, they said, look great, and so I would 613 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: have had and had to replace the hub bearing. Um, 614 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: and we thought that was gonna fix it on the 615 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,239 Speaker 1: passing side. However, the noise is still there, and so 616 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: I dropped it back off from now they're saying it's 617 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like a bearing in the transmission. Okay, Well 618 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: before we go there, how are they coming to this conclusion? Um? 619 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: Are they? Are they listening to it driving and on 620 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: a lift with the stethoscope? Yes they are, okay, So 621 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: because he said, was listening to it? All right? So yeah, 622 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: and maybe it isn't Maybe it is a noise in 623 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: in the transmission. Let me explain the way I would 624 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: do this if it was at the shop, if I 625 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: had it up in the air, it would be because 626 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: a road test will just tell me there's a noise. 627 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: That doesn't tell me where the noise is. So in 628 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: the shop. It's Danny, give me twenty hard. Twenty hard? 629 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: Is I want a quick acceleration in twenty miles and 630 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm listening, what's the rate of acceleration? Is the buzz 631 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: from the left wheel or the right wheel? If I 632 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: hear it in the right, the next thing I'm gonna 633 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: do is stop the left front wheel. Sometimes I'll put 634 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: a screw driver in a caliper and to hold it 635 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: or just wedge something in there. Hold it. Drive the 636 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: right Do I still hear the noise? Yes? Okay, stop 637 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: the right front wheel. Let the left front spin. Do 638 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: I still hear the noise? Yes? Okay. Then it's not 639 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: the right front bearing, it's not the left front bearing. 640 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: It's got to be in the trans at that point 641 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: because that's the only thing spinning that's still constant. Did 642 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: that make sense to you? So you know, if they 643 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: if they've gone through that, then I'm up against the 644 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: clock here, tim, someonena have to rush. But if they've 645 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: gone through that, then yeah, then I would say it 646 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: is in the trans um. But ask them if this 647 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: doesn't fix it, where would they go next? And how 648 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: sure are they? Because internal trans noises are going to 649 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: get to be very expensive. Before they do it, ask them, Hey, 650 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: how did you break this down? Or are we guessing? 651 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: And we'll kind of go from there. Let's talk next week. 652 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm up against the clock, alright, buddy, alright, Tim, take 653 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: good care. I'll be running any in the car doctor, 654 00:34:39,640 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, aren't any 655 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: of the car doctor. Let's do a cook piece of email. Hey, Ron, 656 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: I listened to you regularly on w v O M 657 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: the Voice of Main. I know where that is one 658 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: or three point nine. I appreciated your help with getting 659 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: a manual from my Trailblazer recently. That being said, I'm 660 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: considering replacing my current vehicle and wondering if there are 661 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: any cars that are being sold that are not so 662 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: full of electronics so that if you lose power, you 663 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: can't even roll down a window of the basic way 664 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: to contact me during my work schedule via email or podcast. 665 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: Thanks Richard. Um, No, you know that's the problem. Everything 666 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: is so full of electronics today that you just simply 667 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: can't get away from it. Uh. The only thing being 668 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: sold is that is that sixty two dodged dart on Craigslist. 669 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: Um with crankdown windows in a straight six and a carburetor. 670 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: But other than that, everything is just so overloaded and 671 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: overladen with scan tools that are with electronics that you 672 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: just can't you can't get away from it. As as 673 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: tough as that is to understand, and I get it. Um, 674 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: it makes we wonder how long can you keep a car? 675 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: Somebody asked me this question day, Hey, Ron, how long 676 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: can I reasonably expect to keep a car? My answer 677 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: used to be until you're tired of fixing it. Now 678 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: my answer is until the manufacturer stops making software for 679 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: it and phases it out, just like Windows does with 680 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: Expo and the three point whatever and so on and 681 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: so forth. So um, it's gonna be all software changes 682 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: that caused the minse of the car, not the hardware. 683 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: So hey, that about wraps it up this hour. I'm 684 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: run on any of The Card Doctor. By the way, 685 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 1: keep in mind if you're podcasting The Car Doctor, click 686 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: on the subscribe button from whatever apparatus you're using. Click 687 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: on subscribe helps us pay the bills. Keep that in 688 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: mind until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 689 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: See you