1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Week sixteen is here. The Jaguars face so Broncos in 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: a game with massive AFC playoff implications. JP Shadwick with 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: you with our countdown to kickoff interviews for the week, 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: and we start in the locker room where Brian Sexson 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: caught up with defensive lineman Matt Dickerson, who, after bouncing 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: around the league as an undrafted player, has now found 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: a home with his seventh team and eight NFL seasons, 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and he had his first career start a 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: week ago. 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: No. 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: I love the guys in this room, at least on 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: our side of the ball. And when I first got here, 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 3: I was on practice squad and was given a look 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: to the old line and you kind of build a 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: bond with them as well. And regardless of that, I 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: think everyone as soon as you walk in this room, 17 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 3: everyone knows each other, Everyone says up to each other, 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: everyone's tight, which I've been around a lot of teams 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: and I don't think the chemistry has matched what we 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: got here, so and unfortunate to be a part of it. 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: It seems to build week to week. You know, some 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: teams go up and down. I'm sure you've seen that, 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: but this just seems to kind of stack on top 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 4: of each other week after week. 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: No, I think winning does help brings guys closer and 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 3: knowing what we're doing during the week is we're doing 27 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: something right. So we just got to keep on improving 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: and just getting after it. 29 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: You wait for the practice squad to a starting job 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: in December. There's a lot of places in this league 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 4: where that doesn't happen. What does that say about this 32 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: coaching staff and the way that they approach week to week. 33 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: I'm very fortunate for the position I'm in. Obviously, you know, 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: you got to take it with the grain of salt 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: and you got to work to maintain that just the 36 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: way things worked out. But I love this coaching staff, 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: Liam coach camp Edwards. They're all bought in for us, 38 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: and that's what it's all about. It's all about us 39 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: and along with the guys here, just building trust with 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: one another and continuing to build and get better during 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: the week, which is the most important. 42 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: We already talked about chemistry. How about confidence. I mean, 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: you're going into Denver, it's one of the toughest places 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: to play. I guess the team that's got twelve wins 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 4: on the season. Tell me about the confidence a little 46 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: bit this team, about the way you're playing right. 47 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: No, we understand they're a great team. They got great players, 48 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: so do we. And like I said, this week is 49 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: very important for us, like it is every week, but 50 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: getting better and fixing what we need to improve on. 51 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: So we have all the confidence we have one out 52 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: there on Sunday. 53 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: How about I have thought about the guys you're playing 54 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 4: with right now, especially a lot of personality. Josh Trayvon 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: is different, Eric Garhamstead Devon, tell me a little bit 56 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: about that group and how you guys work together. 57 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 5: Right. 58 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: We all have different personalities, but I think at the 59 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: end of the day, it all comes down to respect. 60 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: We all have respect for one another. Everyone has their 61 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: different attributes and we try to learn with those attributes 62 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: and just overall this personality wise, I mean, everyone's great, 63 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: everyone's fun to get along with. It's we look forward 64 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: to coming to work every day. These are long days, 65 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: but we make the most out of them and it 66 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: helps having those guys around. 67 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: What a final thought on why not this team? Right? 68 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's playing well at the right time 69 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 4: and things are coming together with confidence in chemistry, is 70 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: there any reason why it can't be this time? 71 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think it's I mean, we all want 72 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: it to be us, you know. So we all have 73 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: confidence in the world, and we love each other and 74 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: we want to make it happen. 75 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 4: So sneak one more in then real quick. And that 76 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: is just about how you focus when things are big, 77 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: the stakes are high. You focus exclusively week to week. 78 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: How did you prevent last week thinking about this week? 79 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: And how do you this week think about not thinking 80 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: about next week? 81 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: Right? 82 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: No? 83 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: I mean coach Liam always constantly talks about being want 84 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: to know and we learned from the previous week what 85 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: we need to improve on, and then we move on 86 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: to the next and you know, just take it day 87 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: by day, week by week. And this is our opponent, 88 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: so let's keep moving forward each week. 89 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: Mike Dempsey catches up with CBS Sports senior writer Pete Frisco. 90 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike, I think you can. I think the one 91 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 5: thing you noticed about him when you watch it tape 92 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: is how much more confidence he has in as received 93 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: be his offensive line and he's able to get through 94 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 5: his progressions and get to the throw behind the checkdown. 95 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 5: He's much more willing to stay in there and maybe 96 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 5: step to the left and fire a shot down the 97 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 5: field than he was earlier in the season. And I 98 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: think that's added up to a much better quarterback, a 99 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 5: much more confident quarterback. And yeah, Denver's a step up 100 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 5: in terms of what they will face. But the way 101 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 5: he's playing right now and the way he's reading things 102 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 5: out and playing with confidence, I definitely think he can 103 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 5: have success against that defense. 104 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 6: As far as the passing game goes, Pete, you figure 105 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 6: Patser Tan is going to try to take out one 106 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 6: of the top couple of wide receivers. Is this a 107 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 6: game where your secondary, your third guy, your tight end 108 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 6: needs to step up and play a bigger role. 109 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, because, look, sir Tan hasn't been as good this year. 110 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: I mean, he's been banged up some and he just 111 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 5: quite frankly, hasn't been as good as he was a 112 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 5: year ago. So it's not like if he gets on 113 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 5: a guy, you got to stay away from him. You 114 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 5: saw Green Bay go after him a little bit. He 115 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: did get an interception, but you can go after him 116 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: and you know, Riley Maull on the other side as 117 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 5: a ton of you know, penalties and holds and grabs 118 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 5: and interference and everything else that you can attack him too. 119 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 5: But I also think you mentioned the tight end. I 120 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 5: think there's going to be opportunities in the middle of 121 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: the field for Strange to get some balls on his 122 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: way as well. Got to spread it around, and they've 123 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 5: done a great job of that in recent weeks, and 124 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 5: I think that's going to be the formula today to 125 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: try and attack that defense. 126 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 6: And of course travs CTN playing outstanding football lately as well. 127 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: Pete. 128 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 6: He's got a dozen touchdowns on the year. No bagel 129 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 6: toot in this week, and you are playing at a 130 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 6: mile high altitude, so you know a lot of more 131 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 6: pressure than we've seen on Laquin Allen and whoever else 132 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 6: needs to supplement that running back group this week. 133 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and m quinn Allen's done a nice job. When 134 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 5: he's got on the field, he hasn't got a ton 135 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 5: of carries, and so that's the thing when he comes on, 136 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 5: what does that mean will he get more carries? Is 137 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 5: he want of those guys that can handle the carries 138 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 5: if he does get him? But when he's on the field, 139 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 5: and particularly he's important when you look at those pass 140 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: rushers and his ability to chip and him in the 141 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 5: ribs on his way out and stuff like that. So 142 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: I think they'll be fine with Quinn Allen. And you 143 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 5: mentioned it, he can's been really good. I mean, he's 144 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: been great catching the ball out of the backfield, and 145 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 5: he's just added a nice little dynamic to the offense, 146 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: particularly as a receiver. 147 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, and we talked about how good a game Trevor 148 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 6: Lawrence had Denver's quarterback Bo Knicks four touchdowns last weekend, 149 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 6: maybe his best game of the year as well. Pete, 150 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 6: what has made him as successful as he's been in 151 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 6: his first couple of years in the league. 152 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 5: Well, I think initially it was an athletic ability and 153 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: the way they call plays and got him outside the pocket. 154 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 5: I think in recent weeks it's his ability to stand 155 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: in there and make some throws. I mean, you know 156 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: that was one thing about him. He wasn't willing to 157 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: stay there and make the throws down the field. I 158 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 5: mean a couple of weeks ago he completed thirty passes 159 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 5: for barely over two hundred yards. But then last week 160 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 5: he came back and he hit those deep shots down 161 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 5: the field and made those thoughs. So I still think 162 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 5: the way to play him is to keep him inside 163 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 5: the pocket. And if Jacksonville could keep him inside the pocket, 164 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 5: I think they have they can have some success slowing him. 165 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 5: I think, you know, the way they're playing right now, 166 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 5: he's playing at a high level, but I think the 167 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 5: way to slow him down a little bit to keep 168 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: him inside the pocket. 169 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 6: Pete Prisco here with us, said Pete. I think a 170 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 6: lot of people when Evan Ingram went to Denver, thought 171 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 6: he'd play the joker role in Sean Payton's offense. He 172 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 6: hasn't been nearly as productive as I thought he would 173 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 6: be this year. He'll probably get match up at times 174 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 6: with Devin Lloyd, who's had a great year but in 175 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 6: past years has been a liability and coverage. Who wins 176 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 6: that match up? If they do get singled. 177 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 5: Up, you know, it'd be interesting, Mike, because you know, 178 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 5: I don't know if they'll single him up all that much. 179 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 5: You know, they play a lot of zone and that's 180 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 5: the way they want to play, so I don't know 181 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 5: if they'll single him up much. But you're right, I mean, 182 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 5: they thought he would come in and be a big 183 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: part of the passing game and it hasn't quite worked. 184 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 5: Out now. Having said that he's more than capable, then 185 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: you know, go sit down in some zones, get some 186 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 5: easy throws to the quarterback and get yourself you know, five, six, 187 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: seven catches, And I just don't think the big players 188 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: are down there for him, particularly catch this defense. So 189 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 5: I would think they would look to the outside of 190 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 5: the outside receivers. 191 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 6: When you look at Denver and you see that they 192 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 6: won eleven in the row, but they've won ten out 193 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 6: of twelve one possession games this year. Is that the 194 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 6: sign of a good team knowing how to win the 195 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 6: close ones? Or is that a team that you look 196 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 6: at say, well, maybe they're a little bit more gettible 197 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 6: than the record indicates. 198 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 5: I would think they're more gettible than the record indicates. 199 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 5: And not only that, I mean of all the teams 200 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: that have had eleven game winning streaks in the history 201 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 5: of the league, their scoring margin is the smallest of 202 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: any of them. So that tells you they've been in 203 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 5: a lot of close games and found ways to win them. 204 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 5: That's a look, it's a testament to the coach. Sean Payton, 205 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 5: is a testament to bo Nicks in key moments. But again, 206 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 5: you can't be living that way all the time, and 207 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 5: they've done that against some bad teams too, so I 208 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 5: think it's more of a sign that they are gettible. 209 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 6: All right, give us your prediction for today, Pete. 210 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 5: I think Jacksonvill goes out there and wins the game. 211 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 5: I think they're physical. I think they control bow knicks 212 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 5: inside the pocket. I think Josh heinz Allen has a 213 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: big day rushing the passer. And I think it's going 214 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 5: to be one of those days where they shock the 215 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 5: world and people start paying more attention to the Jacksonvill Jaguars. 216 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: I had a conversation this week with Benjamin Albright. He 217 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: covers the Broncos with KOI Radio and Denver, and he 218 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: provided insight of the Broncos run. 219 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly not mean this much for these two teams. 220 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: I think there was some cautious optimism in Denver that 221 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: they were a repeat playoff team based on you know, 222 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: last year, as far as that kind of stuff goes. 223 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: But I mean even in Denver, there was no way 224 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: anyone here thought that they'd be in the driver's seat 225 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: for the number one seed or you know, riding the 226 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: top of the AFC West. But Kansas City eliminated at 227 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: this point. There was in their wildest dream there was 228 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,239 Speaker 2: nobody here that felt that those were those were possibilities. 229 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 6: The Jacksonville thing. 230 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's from the outside looking in, 231 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: I think there was a lot of optimism with you know, 232 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: with Liam Cohen, what he did with Baker Mayfield and 233 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: that offense taken off that kind of stuff. But and 234 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: then of course there's a vested interest here in Colorado 235 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: because of Travis Hunter, who's obviously not playing, but Travis 236 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: was such a big deal here in Colorado, So you know, 237 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: I think there was a there was kind of an 238 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: eye on that as far as that kind of stuff goes. 239 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think in the wildest dreams, I don't 240 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: think anybody here would have predicted this. 241 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: Benmin All Bright KOA Radio in Denver, what has been 242 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: the most important part of Sean Payton's addition to this 243 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: franchise and what has he brought that that was missing 244 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: over the last seven eight years. 245 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 4: Standards, he raised the floor. 246 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: Whatever you think of Sean Payton, and you know, honestly, 247 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: the resume between Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy is not 248 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 2: really that different. Whatever you think of him, at the 249 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: end of the day, seven and nine is the floor. 250 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: He's got standards. Seven and nine is going to be 251 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: the floor. And so I think that's what it was. 252 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: You look at who was there before him and Nate Hackett, 253 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: and that's someone I'm sure you guys Jacksonville a little 254 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: bit familiar with. You know, Nate was Nate was a 255 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: fun guy. Everybody liked Nate Hackett. But the question was 256 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: could he coach? And he certainly answered that with a 257 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 2: resounding no. I think it's in and I'll give you 258 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: little anecdote here. I think it's it's funny, it's it's 259 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: weird in hindsight. When he was here, uh, and he's 260 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: he's paling around with the media practice a little bit 261 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: and he said, Hey, you want to get out there 262 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: and run a route real quick? And I'm like, what 263 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 2: what are you doing here? This is I mean, you've 264 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: got limited reps in a professional football setting and you're 265 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: asking if they want to want to run a round 266 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: and practice, like, what are we doing here? 267 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 6: Yeah? 268 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: That would never fly with Sean Payton, as much more 269 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: difficult and less genial as he is. There's certainly a 270 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: level of professionalism and a standard here, you know in 271 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: Denver that was missing before Ben. 272 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: General Albright with us KOA radio in Denver. He's got 273 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: his quarterback now too. Apparently bow next seems like the 274 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: guy for the future here, right. 275 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's the way it looks. 276 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Bo. I mean, if you look statistically, honestly, 277 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: Bo isn't appreciably better than Russ other than not taking sacks, 278 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: which which Russ would, you know, I think everybody knows 279 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: how Russ does with that. Russ had a few more fumbles, 280 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: but the difference otherwise isn't appreciably different. I mean, the 281 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: offense looked bad for three quarters with Russ and then 282 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: he would pull something out of his backside and have 283 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: a game winning drive when Sean was here. But the 284 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: cost difference is something else too. It allows you, with 285 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: this rookie contract, to be able to pay this defense, 286 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: you know, And that's I think right now we're trying 287 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: to see if bo can grow into something a little 288 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: bit more because when it comes time to pay him, 289 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: and you're not going to be able to be able 290 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: to pay the offensive line what you're paying them, and 291 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: and you know, and and the defense, everybody on defense 292 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. You'll need a quarterback 293 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: it's able to carry a football team. And and Bo 294 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: has has the week's gone on, continue to mature and 295 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: kind of point that's the direction they're headed. So that's 296 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: been a big part of it. I think his his 297 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: kind of energy is infectious. He's a football dude. He 298 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: grew up around ball. His dad was a coach. You know, 299 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: he's just kind of got that that, you know that 300 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: football is my life mentality, and dudes tend to gravitate 301 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: to that. 302 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: Benjamin, Let's touch on this defense ranked number one and 303 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of categories this year, but they don't have 304 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: takeaways as much. What's what's going on there? Why is 305 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: the circumstances, what's the situation? 306 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: Well, some of that's opportunity, you know, I mean there's 307 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: there's been some missed and failed opportunities. But I think 308 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: the other part of this is when you're getting so 309 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: many sacks, unless you're getting a strip sack, well you 310 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: can't intercept the ball because the quarterback's down. He's been 311 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, he's been sacked. And so I think there's 312 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: a there's a part to this that, you know, given 313 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: it take you look at the vic Fangio defense, for instance, 314 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: which is what was previously in place here before you know, 315 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: Vance went back to what it did. Vic Fangio's defense is, 316 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's tight front, drop everybody back, and 317 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: try to pick you off. It is a very low 318 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: sack defense. It just does not get as much pressure. 319 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: And you turn around look at what Vance is running, 320 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: which is a variant of Wade Phillips defense, which is 321 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 2: send everything at the at the quarterback. We're not running 322 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: zone on the back of well, it's it's mostly man. 323 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: There is some zone, but it just depends on the 324 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: leverage rules, but it's it's designed to sack you and 325 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: put you in negative situations and then hopefully try to 326 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: turn you over and those kinds of things. They just 327 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: haven't had much luck with that, although they got a 328 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: couple against Green Bay and people are hoping that that, 329 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: you know, sort of takes things off. 330 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 4: As far as the. 331 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: Defense goes, you're looking at it mostly manned, single high 332 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: type defense. They try to disguise things a little bit 333 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: here or there. It's got some leverage rules where it 334 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: turns into zone on inside leverage and all that, so 335 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: it's not it's not a pure man defense, but then 336 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: nothing's a pure nanny defense anymore, you know. But overall 337 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: it's it's been highly effective, and I think Vance's has 338 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: coached his way to a second try at a head 339 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: coaching opportunity after the season. 340 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Ben's all bright KOA radio in Denver. How about maybe 341 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: a deeper player on this roster on both sides of 342 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: the ball that's not in the marquee. Who's somebody that 343 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: you need to watch out for both sides of the 344 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: football for the Broncos. 345 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: Okay, on defense, a couple of guys, the backup nose 346 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: Tagle Malcolm Roach. He gets almost as many snaps as 347 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: DJ Jones. He gets a lot of push, and when 348 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: you've got a three man front of him, Zach Allen 349 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: and John Franklin Myers, it's tough to pick who you're 350 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: gonna double up because all three are strong guys that 351 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: can get after the quarterback and free things up for 352 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: the linebackers to shoot, whether that's Benito or you know, 353 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: Singleton or or Cooper. And then in the secondary, Jatte 354 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: Barn the rookie. You know, he's not one of the 355 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: starting corners, but they sort of use him as a 356 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: mismatch chess piece guy. They bring him into cover athletic 357 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: tight ends. You know, he's he's kind of and he's 358 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: probably gonna get more work with Brandon Jones, the safety 359 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: out now they move him around in that secondary. He 360 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: might get a little more work back there where PJ. 361 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: Locke will start. He'll he'll get a little more rep 362 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: on the offensive side. Nate Atkins just back off injury. 363 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: You know, he's an h back and they love to 364 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: use him in the low red zone to get touchdowns 365 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: because nobody's you know, they're all covering all the other guys. 366 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: Atkins is. He can play full back, he can play 367 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: tight end. You can split him out wide. He's athletic enough. 368 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: He doesn't look like it, but he's athletic enough you 369 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: can split him out. In fact, he got a he 370 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: got a touchdown this year before his injury off a 371 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: fake screen you know, fake screen wheel, uh, because nobody 372 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: and nobody was covered him. He's he's just that dude. 373 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: So he's kind of the unsung secret sneaky. I mean, 374 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: if you're a if you're a wagering person, you wanted 375 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: to put something down on any time touchdown, that's the 376 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: sneaky play with the with the best. 377 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: Odds final one here. The AFC playoff race is as 378 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: wide open as we've seen it in a long time. 379 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: The Chiefs are going to Coon in a few weeks. 380 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: That's probably the reason why. But that's got to give 381 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: the Broncos a lot of hope in that division. Certainly, 382 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: Jaguar is a team like the upstart Jags. They're in 383 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: the hunt too. And it seems like a whole new 384 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: world in the AFC this year. 385 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that it does, and at a fascinating kind of realignment. 386 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: I think when you when you look at things, some 387 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: of the traditional powers are struggling. You look, we already 388 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: mentioned Kansasity, look at the Ravens. They're struggling too. You know, 389 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: Buffalo hasn't been what they've been the last couple of years. 390 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: They're still in the hunt though, And and I'll say 391 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: this from a from a Broncos perspective, they're They're toughest 392 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: games have come out of the AFC South. They lost 393 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: to the to the Colts. I think if CJ. Stroud 394 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: hadn't got hurt in that game against the Texans, they 395 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: might have lost that one. So their toughest games to 396 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: sort of you know, come out of the AFC South Sands, Tennessee, 397 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: which we all know about. So this is kind of 398 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: fascinating looking at the realignment. I think that's why we 399 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: love this game, love this league, is because the parody 400 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: eventually shifts things back and forth. There's an ebb and 401 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: flow and nobody aside from the Chiefs and the Patriots 402 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: or whatever. I mean, you get a little mini dynasties, 403 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: but you don't get just a choke hold on everything 404 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: that makes it impossible for other teams to eventually build 405 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: and compete. And look at this you got. You've got 406 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: two teams that really haven't been I hesitate to use 407 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: the work relevant, but it's sort of apropos in quite 408 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: some time now, all of a sudden, making a lot 409 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: of noise here in the AFC, with with potential and 410 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: possibility of being you know, top four seeds. 411 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence is playing at a high level 412 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: as of late. Brian Sexton caught up with quarterbacks coach 413 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: Spencer Whipple to find out why. 414 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's doing a great job, you know himself, running 415 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 7: the show, the operation. I think it's just a culmination 416 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 7: of all the guys working, putting in the work. The 417 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 7: offense you can see is clicking, kind of getting more 418 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 7: comfortable each week, and I think that's really just those 419 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 7: guys putting in the work. Trevor has been working endlessly. 420 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 7: You know, he comes prepared each day, he works on 421 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 7: his own, comes in, gets more work, always eager to 422 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 7: improve and keep it going. I think that rubs off 423 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 7: on the rest of the guys and they've done the 424 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 7: same thing. And you've seen a lot of that growth 425 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 7: throughout the whole year, and it's been really fun to watch. 426 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 4: He was always going to take some time right a 427 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 4: new system and new coaching staff. We don't have much 428 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 4: patience in professional sports anymore. But to see him coming 429 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: alive at this point of the season November and December, 430 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: where things come, you know, to a head, it seems 431 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: like it's a really important time. 432 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great time for sure, and I think, 433 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 7: you know, he'll say the same thing, and I think 434 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 7: a lot of times with an offense, it just takes 435 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 7: takes a little time to kind of work some things out. 436 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 7: First yere in the system, guys getting comfortable, and then 437 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 7: also finding out what we're what we're good at and 438 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 7: what we like, you know, what the guys like to run, 439 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 7: what they see, what Trevor's you know, comfortable with. And 440 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 7: he's got extreme ownership right now. He's done a great 441 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 7: job preparing each week, every day to allowing himself to 442 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 7: play comfortably and to play free like he's been doing 443 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 7: every Sunday. And I think that just goes back to 444 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 7: all the work that he's put in up until this point. 445 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 4: I've got to get you to define extreme ownership. I'm 446 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: assuming that's a Jocko will Nick reference. 447 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 7: I don't know. Yeah, it's just something. It's just something 448 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 7: that he's kind of done a great job of of. 449 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 7: You know. Now we're at the point where he's comfortably 450 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 7: go out there in any setting and able to operate 451 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 7: the offense, able to get us into the right play, 452 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 7: get us into the right checks. He's seeing the defense, 453 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 7: he's seeing coverage, he's seeing things before they happen, which 454 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 7: takes a lot of you know, preparation throughout the week 455 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 7: in terms of finding the film and watching the film 456 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 7: and seeing what they're about to do. And that can 457 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 7: make his you know, process much easier come game day 458 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 7: because he's seen that before and tape, he's seen those things, 459 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 7: he's wrapped them in practice. You know, he's gotten some 460 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 7: extra work with the guys after practice, making sure he 461 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 7: gets the throws he needs to get to and I 462 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 7: think that's just allowing him to play comfortably out there 463 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 7: each day. And so the work he's put in is 464 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 7: really shown right now. 465 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: It would be easy for me to point to the 466 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 4: acquisition of Jacoby Myers and say that was a point 467 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 4: where it started to turn, but clearly that is a 468 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 4: very important acquisition for him. 469 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 470 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 7: Absolutely, Jacoby's been unbelievable. I mean he just does a 471 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 7: great job, you know at the receiver position. You know, 472 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 7: the way he's able to run his routes be friendly 473 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 7: for the quarterback get open. But also the job he 474 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 7: does in the run game think is something that's been 475 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 7: really really fun to watch too. The way he goes 476 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 7: and digs out safety selfless. You know, he'll do whatever 477 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 7: it takes in order to make each play successful. And 478 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 7: then you see just has a great feel and a 479 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 7: great knowledge of the game and able to get on 480 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 7: the same page for what Trevor's looking for. And you 481 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 7: know they're able to talk and some great dialogue in 482 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 7: terms of you know, ironing out some details within each play. 483 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 7: So he's been he's been incredible. He's been a great, 484 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 7: great acquisition for us. 485 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning always said after playing ray Lewis and those 486 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: great Baltimore Ravens teams that he was mentally exhausted after 487 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: that game. Do you suppose your quarterback will be the 488 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 4: same way against this Broncos defense this week. 489 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great challenge they do. They do a 490 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 7: great job. PJ and I were together in Arizona, so 491 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: I get to see a lot of what yeah, he 492 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 7: brings as a coach and a coordinator, and it's a 493 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 7: really impressive stuff he does. He does a great job, 494 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 7: and their team, you know, presents a great challenge for us, 495 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 7: and I think the guys are really excited and you know, 496 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 7: just go about it, you know, with the preparation how 497 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 7: we've been doing it, and you know, watch the film, 498 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 7: you get with the me get guys on the field, 499 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 7: you know, after those guys are working and and uh, 500 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 7: you know, spending a little more time on their own. 501 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 7: I think at this point in the season too, that 502 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 7: that's where you kind of see some of the growth 503 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 7: within the within the team, the players talking to players, 504 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 7: coaching and uh getting in the room and watching film together. 505 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 7: So that's that's the cool part about where we're at 506 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 7: as an offense and a and a unit. Everybody's pushing 507 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 7: each other and you know they want to just keep 508 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 7: going to new heights. 509 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: Trevor's so calm and even keeled, and I see that 510 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: in this football team. Are they adopting adapting to him? 511 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, he does a great job I think in terms 512 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 7: of when bullets are flying and things are happening fast 513 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 7: around you, whether it be in practiced or definitely on 514 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 7: on game day, able to kind of calm everybody around. 515 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 7: I think that comes with playing the quarterback position is 516 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 7: having that that demeanor and having that you know, whatever's 517 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 7: going on, I can be the kind of the calm 518 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 7: and the storm. And he's done a great job with that, 519 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 7: you know, whether it's ups and downs, whatever's going on, 520 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 7: keeping that that level that's steady, that steady presence out 521 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 7: there for the guys in order to keep them, uh 522 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 7: in a in a mode where we can operate in 523 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 7: any condition when things are maybe not going our way 524 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 7: and then be able to bounce back. I think you've 525 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 7: seen that a lot this season and that's you know, 526 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 7: a lot of tribute to to Trevor and the way 527 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 7: he's kind of handled what's going on throughout the course 528 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 7: of the game, the ebbs and flows and him staying 529 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 7: consistent and keep firing and keep letting it rip. And 530 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 7: you know, it's been a fun, fun thing to see 531 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 7: and it's a great mindset that he does possess and 532 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 7: it rubs off from all the guys around him. 533 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 4: December in Denver, with so much on the line, What 534 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 4: a fun time to be a Jaguars fan. Folks are 535 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 4: enjoying it. I hope you do too. Best of luck 536 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: today and Merry Christmas. 537 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, thank you. It's a looking 538 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 7: forward to It's a great challenge each week. You know, 539 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 7: it's a whatever team you play, it's going to be 540 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 7: It's the NFL, so it's a it's it's always a 541 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 7: great opportunity to get to get to go against him, 542 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 7: and then you know where they're at and their record. 543 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 7: It's a it's gonna be fun to go on the 544 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 7: road and play against these guys. So guys are looking 545 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 7: forward to it. 546 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: And finally, our weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars 547 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor. It's a huge ballgame in Denver 548 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: this week, the one seed Broncos the three seed Jaguars. 549 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Does get much bigger than this and the regular season. 550 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: In fact, bredis one of the biggest games in recent 551 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars regular season history, the first Jags regular season game 552 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: with both teams with ten or more wins since nineteen 553 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine. 554 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 6: It's been a while. 555 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: How are you? 556 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 8: I am doing great? Do you guys go and find 557 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 8: stats that it just blows my mind? But and again 558 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 8: to add to that, JP, I believe that this is 559 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 8: the Broncos' biggest game since their Super Bowl under you know, 560 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 8: Peyton Manning when he was there as a Bronco. It's 561 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 8: meaningful for them. You know, they want to secure home 562 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 8: fill advantage. They've been They're undefeated at home this year, 563 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 8: so they want to continue that trend. And this game 564 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 8: is as more important for them as it is for 565 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 8: the Jaguars, who's a team that's protecting position. You know, 566 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 8: they're a game ahead of the Texans in the division 567 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 8: race and they need this one. You know, they have 568 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 8: to continue to play on a consistent basic as they 569 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 8: have been and continue to show that this is our 570 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 8: identity is real. You know, this isn't you know, Doctor Jacko, 571 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 8: mister high this is who we are. You know, we're 572 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 8: coming to prove a point. You know, they've been riding 573 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 8: that disrespect theme and earning respect. They got to continue 574 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 8: to do it. You know, last week coach Cohen said 575 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 8: respect thing's just gonna come. You gotta go get it, 576 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 8: you know, And and I think they're out to do that. 577 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: This would be a way to go get it, certainly. 578 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: And the quarterback's been playing like he wants to do 579 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: it as well. Nine touchdowns no interceptions over the last 580 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: three games. We know what he did last week. Of course, 581 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: that's trending the right way. And they've got weapons all around. 582 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: They've got a running game. They're going up against one 583 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: of the best defenses in football this week, the Denver Broncos, 584 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: with a pass rush for the back end, they rank 585 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: highly in most every category. Where can Trevor Lawrence go 586 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: from here? 587 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 8: You know, Trevor can go as the old line goes. 588 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 8: You know, Trevor can go as the run game goes. 589 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 8: You just mentioned it, JP. They got a great pass rush, 590 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 8: they got a great back end. I do not expect 591 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 8: this to be a high passing yardage type of day. 592 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 8: But I do expect Trevor to continue playing as he's 593 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 8: played with control. He's been protecting the football of late. 594 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 8: He's been throwing and getting the ball to the open receivers. 595 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 8: You know, he's not just chunking the deep going for 596 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 8: home runs. He's taking advantage of what the defense gives him. 597 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 8: And he's going to have to do that versus this 598 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 8: Broncos defense. They're fast, they're smart, they're young, they're discipline, 599 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 8: they just want to fly around. So he's going to 600 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 8: have to take advantage of what they give them until 601 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 8: they make a mistake. What you get with youth is 602 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 8: oftentimes you get mistakes, and those guys can get, you know, 603 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 8: caught up in situations where they're trying to make a 604 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 8: play because of how big this game is, and you 605 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 8: want to take advantage of those moments. But you gotta 606 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 8: have patience, you gotta have poise. He's gonna be loud 607 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 8: and I think Trevor, their leader, is in position to 608 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 8: take him that way. But it starts with a great 609 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 8: run game. I expect Travis dt In to get his 610 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 8: bulk carries this week. I expect coach Cohen's gonna challenge 611 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 8: that offensive line to continue their trend of no sacks 612 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 8: and one hundred plus one hundred and fifty plus yards 613 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 8: on the ground. On the flip side of the defense is 614 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 8: gonna have to stop their run game and try and 615 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 8: neutralize bow Knicks. 616 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: Fret Taylor with us prout of the Jaguars running back 617 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: and yeah, let's flip it around now and talk about 618 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: that Jaguars defense. It's you know, it's not as highly 619 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: ranked across the bord as Denver. You know what, they're 620 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: doing some things pretty well. Obviously they're stopping the run game, 621 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: they're taking the football away. But this is a different 622 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: feel with bow Knicks this week. A mobile quarterback. He 623 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: can move things, get off schedule, and that's when things 624 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: can it weird. 625 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, if the Jacks hadn't played Kansas City 626 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 8: on a Monday night, you know I would I would 627 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 8: probably throw out there that this is the best quarterback 628 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 8: that they that they played. I do know they played 629 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 8: Justin Herbert. And although I am a Justin Herbert fan, 630 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 8: I am a huge fan of boat Nicks. Just his demeanor, 631 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 8: you know, the way he wields the team and the 632 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 8: way he approaches the game. It gives me a little 633 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 8: bit of Philip Rivers type attitude, and you know, I'll 634 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 8: do whatever it takes to win a game. But you know, 635 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 8: you have to throw the mobility in there. You have 636 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 8: to throw the arm accuracy in there, the arm strength. 637 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 8: He does it all man. So it's gonna be a challenge. 638 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 8: It's going to require a lot of discipline. The defensive ends, 639 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 8: they're not gonna be able to crash on their pass rush. 640 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 8: They're gonna have to maintain their their laying assignment and 641 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 8: stay outside and contain him so he doesn't get outside 642 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 8: of the pocket straight drop back passes. The interior defensive guys, 643 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 8: they're gonna have to maintain their gap integrity and stay 644 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 8: in their lanes as well. The secondary they're gonna have 645 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 8: to make sure they're cover cover, cover cover, you know, 646 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 8: throughout the duration of the play and hopes that the 647 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 8: sacks or the upfront get there with pressure. So this 648 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 8: might be one of their biggest tests this year JP. 649 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 8: So we'll we'll see what comes here later. 650 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they think their contenders were about to find out 651 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: because the road environment tough road environment in Denver. 652 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 6: Let's wrap with Liam Cohen. 653 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: We talk about him most every week, but he's going 654 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: up against Sean Payton, who has a Super Bowl, of 655 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: course in New Orleans, and it's his third year now 656 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: in Denver and they went to the playoffs last year. 657 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: They've kind of turned some things around Denver. Lee was 658 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: trying to do the same thing around here and seems 659 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: to be maybe a little bit ahead of schedule in 660 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: doing it. How about the matchup of wits this week 661 00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: with the head coaches. 662 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 8: I mean, you have experience and Sean Payton, who's been 663 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 8: around you mentioned he has the Super Bowl, took some 664 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 8: time off away from the game in return. It seemed 665 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 8: that the return wasn't quite welcoming in year one, but 666 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 8: they were going through some stuff trying to find some 667 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 8: adjustments the quarterback and Sean didn't mesh. They were able 668 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 8: to figure that piece out, went out and drafted bow 669 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 8: knicks and insert bow knicks, and he's turned things around 670 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 8: for them. Coach Cohen, you know, younger coach, very energetic, passionate, 671 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 8: very smart, great play design guy and he's on his way. 672 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 8: You know, the only thing he doesn't have that Sean 673 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 8: has his time and that experience. But coach Cohen as 674 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 8: a head coach. He's on his way and say, hopefully 675 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 8: we find our way in San Francisco for the last 676 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 8: game of the season. But I will say they are 677 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 8: trending in the right direct and I'm happy that coach 678 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 8: Cohen was the higher Fred. 679 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. 680 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 6: Big ball game in Denver. 681 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: Will talk to you afterwards. 682 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 8: Huge ball game in Denver, Man, this is gonna be interesting, man, 683 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 8: looking forward to it. 684 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: The ten and four Jacksonville Jaguars meet the twelve and 685 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: two Denver Broncos in Week sixteen. 686 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 6: Enjoy the game.