WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Charlamagne Tha God Part 2 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.880 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:11.000 What Up, y'all and welcome back to Questlove Supreme. So, 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.160 in Part one of our Conversation with Charlemagne the God, 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:18.120 we discussed charlemagne'sjourney into becoming one of the biggest voices 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:18.760 of our time. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.560 If you haven't, you should check that out. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:26.080 Also, don't forget Charlemagne is appearing live on the podcast 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.760 stage at this year's Ruth Picnic, and. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.040 So is Quest Love Supreme. You don't want to miss that. 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.879 Okay, let's get back to it part two of our 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:36.760 Conversation with Charlemagne the God. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:47.880 Because before it was just clips. It was clips that 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.400 would lead you back to the dot com or leyo. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.559 Nobody's doing it dot com anymore, yo. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.960 All Right, So when that moment is happening, like I 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:59.560 guess now you're hyper aware of this can be a 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:04.200 viral moment where you know, a ten second rant could 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.000 suddenly define you whatever. But as that moment's happening, like 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:12.000 what's going in your head? Like is this about to 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.800 be about to say some real old Morton Downey Jr? 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:22.440 You know what I'm That's why I'm like, wow, No, But. 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.240 I mean, like No, that was a moment where like 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.959 the brawl on the Morton Downey Junior Show became like 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.240 super viral. And then of course then there was about 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:38.760 our studio, uh old boy Horaldo Richard. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.440 There was a brawl on Richard Bay before he was 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.520 like yeah, he was like the Morton Downy really Jersey. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.000 So when that moment is happening, like, are you hyper 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:53.640 aware now that of like one frame could be a 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:58.360 jiff for life, like the the Soldier Boy Drake movement 0:01:58.960 --> 0:01:59.680 of those things. 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:01.680 I wasn't you know, it's so funny. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.040 I remember that day because you know, we pre record 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.600 all our interviews a day early, so we pre recorded 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.040 the Birdman interview a day early and we aired it 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.720 back on April twenty second. Everybody remembers what else happened 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.480 on April twenty first, Prince Prince passes while so I 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.519 remember being I was I was hosting the MTV Upfront. 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.960 I remember being at the upfront getting the news that 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.760 Prince died and I'm like, God, damn Prince died. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:27.840 Everybody. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.839 Then I'm like, we can't play bird Man tomorrow. I'm 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:32.840 not gonna care about no bird Man interview. Like literally, 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.919 my mindset. That's what I thought. I was like, nobody's 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.119 gonna care. But then I said, different, crowd, it's only 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.560 two minutes thirty seconds. I remember saying this thing. I'm like, name, 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.640 he's only two minutes thirty seconds. We could throw it 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.880 on at like seven and then get back to Prince. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:47.959 Even thinking like this interview is a bus. We don't 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:48.760 got nothing usable. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.560 I thought it's Prince, Prince passed away. I'm thinking everybody 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.919 and Mama is going to be on Prince. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.080 But we're of a certain age. Yeah, we. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.120 Put the interview out and I could be wrong. It 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.240 felt like Birdman was the a side that weekend. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:06.040 It was. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.640 It was like that was the same weekend Prince passed away. 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.040 But my whole timeline is put some respect on it. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.400 Memes and see that's the other thing, right, you can 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.440 you can know something's gonna go viral, but you don't 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.560 know the life is gonna take on the internet comes 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:20.200 something completely. 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:25.160 That's what I'm saying, respect no, because you better do 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:29.080 it now. I'd have made so many respects because in. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.600 My mind I'm thinking, like I knew he was gonna 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:32.920 come up there. I knew he was coming up there. 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.960 Wiley because you know, one of the record reps hit 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.720 me like a couple of weeks before, and he was like. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:39.560 No, he didn't want me. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.800 He just said, Birdman wants to come on such and 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.040 such date. He wants to make sure that you're there 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.280 now listen. That's number one, but also number two, I 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.600 know what I've said about bird Man. I'm self aware 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.080 and now I'm not gonna act clueless like I didn't 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.080 see that about like, I know the things that I 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:55.520 was saying. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.040 And that's why before he even came in, if you notice, there's. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.240 Like an overhead view because I hold everybody turned the 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:07.880 cameras on before he walks in, cameras I told him, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.440 I said, turn the cameras on before he walks in, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.240 because I just knew he was coming in on something 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.920 and he ain't wait soon as he hit the doll. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.640 It wasn't no high I know nothing, y'all. Motherfucker's put 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.440 some respect on my name. And because the interview is 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:24.080 only two minutes thirty seconds wrestling, he was on air 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:29.360 for forty if that. Because the interview starts with me 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:34.279 saying power, Powerfire, Breakfast Club, Birdman talks and I'm like Noah, no, no, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.520 Birdman just came in here and checked all of us. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.640 Go ahead, get it off your chest, bird Man. And 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:40.600 then that's that's when you know, led to this single 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:41.520 file storm out. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:42.960 Wow have you. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.200 Ever been knocked off your square? And that went away 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:46.240 on on mic. 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:48.640 No I about to see I got pushed in the 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.680 back of the head. But that's not enough. I mean, like, really, wait, 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.480 an artists got pugilistic. It wasn't an artistic I mean, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:59.839 somebody came with a camera. This was like twenty eleven. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.000 They recorded it, though they put it on video. It 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.880 was all world Star. That was full world Star. That's 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.039 why that was full white Star. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.440 I was like an instant somewhere. I'm sorry, no, I'm playing, but. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.400 Like literally because you you seem like, of course they're 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.000 edits and all kinds of things, But even with the 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.240 bird Man thing, there's been so many situations you always focused. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:21.760 In a way. I'm glad you said that about the 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.280 edits because I could edit all of that stuff if 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.119 I wanted to. But it's like, what's the point I can't. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.760 You shouldn't be able as a personality to say what 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.240 you want about people, not not let them get theirs off. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.560 So if I don't care if it's Beanie, Seagull, Master 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.880 p Frado start, any of these guys we have come 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.240 in there and and got at me. It's like I'd 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.440 be I'd be whacked to edit that, and Beans too. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.200 Okay, can you talk about that incident? Do you guys 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.080 know what happened? No, in Philly. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.720 You remember when Beans is like making all these rhymes 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:49.200 about jay Z. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're talking about with searle Man. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.600 Yes, he felt a bet you you would have possibly 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:57.359 appreciated it. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.159 Yeah, be Bean's had an issue at Hove and he 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.240 called in. He called in my radio show on a 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.680 Friday morning. I played it back that Friday and went 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.880 crazy viow that weekend. I think Jay even got asked 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.440 about it because he was on tour at the time. 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:12.279 And then one day I got fired. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:18.679 Wait, you got. 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.680 Fired because Bean said something in an interview about Hove. 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.640 And that's where everybody says jay Z got me fired. 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:25.560 I don't know if that's. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:26.880 True or not, because he would have got me fired 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.279 for sam what I said to him in his face 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:29.360 on the radio in Philly. 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.279 What I think it was at the time. I think 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.880 you had people in Philly. You know it's jay Zy. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:34.320 We all love. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.120 I mean it's the number one market too. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.640 I think sometimes people bring sacrifices to Jay, like here's 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.080 a lamb, you know what I mean? 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.640 Like, Jay, here's a here's a gerbil for you. I bought. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:43.760 I did that his gold. 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:45.640 So I think that was one of those things like 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.440 Beanie said that about you on Charlomagne show he got 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.279 rid of Charlotte. I think it was one of those things. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.600 Beans Yeah, I don't think it was a call like yo. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.160 Get rid of him from Hole. I don't know. It's 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:57.479 not that petty. I just don't think so. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.480 But then where's your mind's like where do I go? 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:04.600 You know what's so interesting? 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.559 There's a lad TV interview I did right after I 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.840 I think it was the day I got fired, and 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.200 I literally said, this is just another stepping stone. I said, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.720 I'll be back on the radio and like a year 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.520 or so, and you know, Scott's the limit, Like I 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.720 literally say that. I say that in the lad TV 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.680 interview and that's literally how I felt how I felt. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.280 You gotta think I already been fired four times? 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:33.480 Yeah, you got your speech already written. Number you told 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:33.880 me you. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.720 Ain't nobody till you get fired in the three times 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.200 they say three day say if you get fired three No, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.280 they said, you're nobody if you get fired once. 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.000 If you get fired three times, you're a superstar. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.440 S it is. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:47.200 Not today though, Yo. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.960 I would have asked you, man the ray J interview, son, Yeah, 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.480 what was going through your mind while he's on the phone. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:53.840 Just man. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.240 We was almost off air, Like we get off air 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.120 at ten. I think it was like nine thirty, and 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.600 I remember Angeliue gets a call and it's our guy 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.520 Billy and he was like, yo, man, I still didn't 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:06.880 know what was going on, like ray J and Fab 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.480 such and such and such, ra J wants to call in. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.440 I'm still like, you know, at the time, he's like, 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.320 wants to call it right now. Him and Fab just 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.800 got into it whatever whatever. So ray J just called 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.680 in and that's what like that literally was. We was 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.840 live at first, like we had to tell him to 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.040 stop cursing and stuff like that, like, and then we 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:23.440 had to say, hold on, man, we're gonna play the 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:24.600 rest of this for y'all tomorrow. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.320 And then we recorded it and it. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:30.000 Became the Seven Rolls rooices and everything else you'll here. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:30.320 Now. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:32.920 I keep telling them we need to get ray J. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:37.080 He's one of the best interviews and stuff like that. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.360 You can't even script Man like the bird Man moment, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.360 the ray J moment, like that's just radio magic, Like 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.839 like you don't script those, like you don't say, hey, 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.960 this is going to happen today. Those are just those 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:49.719 things that happen in live radio, and you just got 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:50.440 to be prepared for it. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.320 Can you tell there's some uh there people that come 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.000 up where you can kind of tell they may be 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.320 kind of fishing for that viral moment, like they kind of. 0:08:59.200 --> 0:08:59.640 As a guess. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.120 Yeah, absolutely, And and I've had people say that and 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.480 then when the interview was over, they'd be like, that's gonna. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:05.080 Go on world stuff. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:05.559 Oh my god. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:06.080 I mean. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.320 Luca Frederi, I remember, but I remember he did that, 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.400 you know what I mean, because because the question I 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:11.920 asked him. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.079 I asked him because he said it right. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:14.320 It was. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:15.800 It was something he said about Brandy I think it 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.839 was on a flat TV interview and I asked him 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:21.280 about it and he got mad at me. But you 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.400 you said it, you know what I mean? And so 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.360 he turned up which I love because I'm an honest fan, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.480 you know what I mean. So I was happy to 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.280 still see the Rye ray, you know, you know what 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.319 I mean, I was. I was happy about that, right, 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:38.920 So it was so but I remember when the interview 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.400 was over, he was like, Yo, that's gonna that's gonna 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:41.720 make some noise on world stuff. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.640 And I was just like, so you started wanting to 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.080 be a super jock, then you became a super jock. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.199 Then what did you decide was next? 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:54.720 Oh as far as what. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:54.959 What you were gonna do? 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.400 Because you said you just as far as I knew before, 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.600 you just wanted to be a super job. Oh so 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:03.280 now you you became a super jobs. Yeah, I'm like, 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.599 so do we say I'm going to have my own network. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:08.200 Show? 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:08.679 Oh? 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.720 Yeah, I mean definitely, because you know, the more you grow, right, 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:13.679 the more you see So it's just like we always 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.480 talk about, you know, there's levels to this, right. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:16.840 Yeah. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.480 So the more you sin, you know, you start to 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.480 meet new people, and you start to get a bird's 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.880 eye view of the game and more opportunities, and you know, 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.720 now you're getting opportunities that you didn't even think was 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:30.400 was possible. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.840 You know, now you you really feel like sky is 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:33.240 the limit. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:33.520 Right. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.160 So it's just like a few years ago when I 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:40.079 saw how the game was changing as far as podcasting 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.240 concern and you know, I've been on podcasts and earlier 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.520 I started my podcast, Me and Andrew been doing bro 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.000 for ten years. We actually just launched our first episode 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.720 last week officially, but we've been doing it for ten years. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.439 It makes perfect right, Okay. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.960 So when I saw where the game was going as 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.280 far as networks and everything, I was started looking around, like, man, 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.440 there's not a lot of uh, there's no network for 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.920 black podcas. Like there's no one place that you could 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.839 take these black podcasters that are getting these views, but 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.959 they don't have no infrastructure properly monetize what they're doing. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.560 I was like, Yo, that's what I want to create. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.880 I saw Bill Simmons was doing with the Ringer, and 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.280 I'm like, I want to create that for us. So 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.760 that's when I had the idea for the Black Effect, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.160 like three four years ago, was. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.000 That kind of what combat Jack was doing with. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.720 His exactly what combat Jack was doing, because I you know, 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.120 God blessed the death luth to combat Jack. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:29.760 Chris Moreau. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.440 Chris Moreau is the first person to tell me, Yo, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.280 you need to write a book and you need to 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:35.120 start a podcast. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.240 This was two thousand and eleven. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.960 That book thing is essential, Hans Charla May very very you. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:41.840 Know, but Chris writes books. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.719 So Chris has written, He's helped fifty cent russell Simmons like, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.240 he's up to a lot of different people write books. So 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.960 he told me twenty eleven, you need to write a book, 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.720 you need to start a podcast. I was arrogant at 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.920 first with the podcast. I knew I wanted to do 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:54.719 a book because I'm an avid reader, right, but I 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.040 was like, why should I do a podcast? And I 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.040 got my own morning show and he was like, man, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.760 trust me start a podcast. So I did, you know, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.120 and with Loudspeaker's network, and that ended up being brilliant, idiot, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:05.600 So it's me. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.720 Combat Jack and to read. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.520 And then when I started to see how creating a 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.480 podcast gives you a whole other voice and it's a 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.040 whole other platform, then I started seeing how it could 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.360 actually be lucrative. Started bringing in other people that I 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.200 thought were interesting to do podcasts, So you know, that 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.480 turned into the tax Stones and the Angela Rise and 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.640 then even like you know, Envy and his wife started 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.040 one and you know you took lip service from Shade 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.240 forty five and started doing a podcast, and it's just 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.280 like then eventually Lobspeaker gave me a percentage of the company, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:40.520 so I equally important Arry, So I saw, you know, 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.720 the other side of the podcast game from the executive 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.280 side years years. Yeah, it's kind of. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.320 Like distribution in a way. 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.040 Is that when you talk about those other companies like 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.760 loud Speaker, Like I heart, I'm just trying to so 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.520 so people who are listening to understand the formula of podcasts. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.520 And in a way, I think Loudspeaker provided a lot 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.440 more infrastructure because people didn't even know what to do 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.760 to start a podcast, you know what I mean. Like 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.840 Loudspeaker had the engine room studios downtown, like they would 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:07.920 tell you to come at this time. They had a 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.440 producers there for you and everything, so they made it 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.079 very easy. Then they had the ad sales team. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:17.000 So to start a podcast in twenty twenty three, what 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:21.680 are the essentials to at least stick make a DMP? 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.600 Like I know there's some people that just like record 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.480 and you got you like you're making a TV show. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.160 Damn there, But yeah, like, what do you what is 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.439 the starter's kid post pandemic starter kit one on one thing? 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.840 Two jews in the corner killing your assurance car. 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:37.640 That sounds like a great podcast. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.760 That is a fantastic. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:45.040 Pom No, that's just an essential part of any podcast. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.160 Let's talk about our mutual friend, all right? 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.520 So weezy, Oh, I feel like she is on the 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.760 verge of greatness as a solo act. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:02.280 Like what steps. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm just horrible decisions. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:10.400 Yes, one half of the horrible decisions. Right, so she 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.599 about to cut a solo deal whatever. I'm treating it 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.880 like it's the music thing. But what do you recommend 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.080 that a person does. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.800 To I think number one, you have to be authentic 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.360 meaning and I know that's such a cliche thing to say, 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.359 but everybody in their mama is getting on these microphones 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.080 and they're just talking nowadays. It's like, what do you 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.400 actually have the offer that's different from everybody else? 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.560 But how can you tell the difference between a provocatory 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:34.840 All right? 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:39.840 So look, academics is deal with rumble, which kind of 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:44.920 just why in my opinion, you know, it's I know, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.120 people want to be provocateurs. You can tell people that 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.040 are easy, like Okay, whatever buttons I should not be pressing, 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:54.720 Let me press those buttons. But what is authentic in 0:14:54.800 --> 0:15:00.960 terms of like being a provocateur or being honest. 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.000 That's a great question. I think the difference is I 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.280 think somebody like Weezy, right, Weezy and man do with 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.800 horrible decisions, their story is authentic. There were two people 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:15.000 in the corporate world who were literally sneaking to do 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.240 a podcast about sex. They didn't want people at their 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.600 job to find out that they were having these conversations 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.240 about sexual liberation and women empowerment and everything else. But 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.400 it started getting so big that they couldn't hide anymore. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:33.240 But they told us this story every step of the way, 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.480 like literally, you can go back the original episodes and 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.120 hear them talking about sneaking off to do this, you know, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.200 from their jobs. Then it got so big that they 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.040 were able to quit their their corporate jobs and just 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.960 fully invest in horrible decisions. By the way, one of 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.360 the best live podcast show, if not the best live 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:51.400 podcast show. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.120 That's horrible Decisions. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:54.200 Oh, they're incredible. 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.320 So to me, that's authentic, having like an authentic story 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.080 and an authentic POV like another another example, I like to. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.120 Users to read Kid Fury and Crystal. I remember watching 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.120 time like one of the longest decade. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.720 I remember watching Kid Fury on YouTube back in the day, 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.760 and you always knew he was funny, you always knew 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.760 he was smart, you always knew he had a star quality. 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.920 Then he starts to read with Crystal, and you could 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:17.760 tell that they're friends. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.640 They're just on there having two you know, authentic conversations 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.760 talking about their experiences, like you just happen to know 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.200 Kid Fury's a gay man from Miami and Crystal is 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.840 a queer woman from Oklahoma. That's because they tell you this, 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.080 But that's not the vein of their existence. They're just 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.360 good at what they do. To me that that's the 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.840 type of authenticness that makes for a good podcast. Nowadays, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.400 people think just because you got a name, you can 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:48.920 launch a podcast. Both be the whackest ones and relationships. God, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.360 all these people and all the people that aren't in 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.920 relationships with relationship podcasts, all these men who've never been 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.160 married telling women what they should be doing, and. 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.200 How many you got a couple of those shows on No, I. 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:04.800 Don't have any I don't have nothing. I don't have 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.119 no man's man sphere of podcast. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.159 Man man playing podcast on black effect. 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.920 Actually to Jews in the corner would be a good 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:25.520 weekend man. Listen, Yo Shan. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.160 I always wanted to ask you, man, because I don't 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.440 think I've ever heard you speak about this in any 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.920 interviews of platforms, specifically making it out of South Carolina? 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.159 What is that like trying to explain to people you know? 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.680 Because I mean, I'm from North Carolina, So trying to 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.679 explain to people that you know, Like you said, you know, 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.600 you have opportunities now that you. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:45.760 Never thought were possible. 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.240 How have you adjusted, you know, knowing coming from where 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.919 you come from to where you are now? Mentally, like, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.800 how do you make that adjustment? 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.200 I don't know if you ever truly make the adjustment. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.640 I know I just started dealing. I just stopped dealing 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.880 with HIMSI syndrome probably in twenty nineteen, because. 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:06.720 You wait, I don't have to do that no more. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:17.119 You definitely to do that, Like I'm sorry, I forget effects. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.040 That's good because I think when you come from a 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.359 certain extreme, like it never leaves you. 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.320