WEBVTT - #688 Packers Unscripted: Problems in Philly 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:10.480 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.680 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.479 by my partner and crime Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.880 you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. Unfortunately, 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.840 we have another Packers defeat to talk about, the seventh 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.400 in eight games. This one very different style of game 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.360 than what we've been used to seeing here with the 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.280 Green Bay Packers. This one was a shootout at Lincoln 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.479 Financial Field on Sunday night. Football. Game was tied at 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.919 one point in the second quarter, Eagles pulled away. Packers 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.599 couldn't catch up. Final score for thirty three, and at 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.400 the end of the day, it was a rough night 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.519 on defense and a couple of very regrettable mistakes on 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.000 offense that were the difference in this game. Yeah, and 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.040 it was funny because, no, obviously you're not sitting here 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.080 last week thinking three and sixty three rushing our the 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.800 loud or anything like that. But what was the number 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.360 one thing you and I were talking about. It's like 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.039 this Eagles offense is not going to stay down much longer. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.399 They had off performances against Washington and against Indianapolis, and 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.320 they brought all of it in this game against the Packers. Ultimately, 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.280 a lot of things you can break down here as 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.560 to why the Packers lost that game, But for me, 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.440 it's miss tackles. And Matt Lafleur said it as Monday 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.440 press conference, twenty miss tackles. That's the most during his 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.959 time here as the Packers. He said. He thought it 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.039 was more than twenty as they were as they were 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.080 going through, he said Sunday night after the game, the 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.520 live charts that indicated that the Packers were keeping it 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.880 indicated fifteen miss tackles, and then after the coaches reviewed 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.760 the film on Monday, the number climbed above twenties somewhere. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.800 So yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just when you have 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.160 a quarterback like Jalen Hurts, a legitimate m VP candidate, 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.960 a guy that is just he's just a he's like 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.880 a just a battery of energy, Like it's just this 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.360 this uh energy are bad you know, bunny kind of 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.320 thing where he is able to take place like I've 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.120 never seen anybody like this in terms of if it 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.000 breaks down you get him into the open field, he's 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.360 like a running back. But if he has time to throw. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.400 He has the arm talent to make you pay um 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.800 the touchdown pass that he had there. I mean, he 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:25.120 is then all around playmaker and for the Packers, if 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.720 you get a hand on him, you have to get 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.600 him to the ground. And and Green Bay didn't do 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.840 enough of that in this game. As you said, a 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.200 shootout from the very beginning, fourteen to thirteen in the 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.280 first quarter. I thought this was very interesting. I guess 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.040 that was the most points scored in an NFL first 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.640 quarter this season. I would have thought it had been 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.160 more than twenty seven. But that's the way it's worked out. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.760 And the Packers did some really good things in this 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:51.800 game offensively, but defensively. We talked week after week after 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.720 week about the complimentary football component of this thing, and 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.959 and defensively, Greenbay just didn't have very many answers for 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.440 the Eagles. Yeah, the twenty plus miss tacklesbviously really stood out, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.160 and you said it in terms of getting a hand 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.080 on Jalen Hurts. But that's not enough, and it's not 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.000 and it's not enough to get one guy to the football, 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:13.800 because yes, the Packers can't miss that many tackles, but 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.600 he's also and not just him, but it was Miles Sanders. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.880 It was also the receivers on some short routes and 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.400 things where they were they were breaking tackles. But defense 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.960 is all about getting enough guys to the football where 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.520 if there is a miss tackle, it the play doesn't 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:33.760 rupture into a big game. And the Packers defensively way 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.160 too often we're leaving it all on one guy to 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.320 make a tackle in an open field situation, and nobody 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.640 else was there to help clean it up. So when 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.680 there was a miss tackle, it wasn't just a couple 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.200 of extra yards. It was a garden variety play turning 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.080 into an explosive or a ruptured type of play that 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.720 was really damaging. Jalen Hurts and Miles Sanders combining for 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.520 three hundred of the three d sixty three rushing yards. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.600 Philadelphia goes eight for fifteen on third down, also converts 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:06.240 a couple of fourth downs when the when the third 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.240 and long, they got close enough to then be able 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.160 to convert on fourth down. It was just a really, 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:15.520 really rough night for the defense. They had essentially three 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.320 good possessions defensively. They got a fourth and one stop 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.360 early in the game on Jalen Hurts, which was which 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.760 was a key point early for the Packers to stay 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.800 in this game. There was a a fumble and a 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.080 recovery and long return by Kuay Walker that's set up 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.719 the Packers for some points. And then there was also 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.440 a three and out in the in in the midst there. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.839 But other than those three possessions, the Eagles basically scored 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.719 every time they had the ball. And then on the 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.600 final possession of the game, with a minute to go, 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.440 they ran the ball three times, moved the chains, and 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.760 and kneeled out the clock. Um. Just not enough, not 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.880 enough stops and uh, and just a very frustrating way 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:58.440 to lose when the Packers offense which has struggled so much, 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.159 you know, only getting the seventeen points against Tennessee the 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.840 week before, not being able to win in Detroit when 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.480 the Lions only score fifteen points, and not being able 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.640 to get that victory, to have a season high with 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.160 thirty three points, and to come up and to come 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:18.680 up short. It's just another a different way, uh, a 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.680 different way to swallow another tough loss. I guess, for 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.080 lack of a better phrase, there was three things that 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.359 I kind of walked away from with this thing, no 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.840 pun intended for our award winning Packers dot Com show 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.800 Three Things, but there were three things I walked away from. One. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.560 The Packers schedule this year is probably one of the 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.680 most difficult I think I've seen, uh in my time 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.240 on the beat. The way it's worked out, the lay 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.080 up games, Washington, the New York Jets, Giants, they all 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.120 ended up being a lot more competitive this year than 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.479 we imagine. All three of those teams might make the 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.359 playoffs now when at the beginning of the season, nobody 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.760 was putting any of those three times, especially now with 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.280 Mike White at quarterback. No nobody would have said after 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.400 Thanksgiving that all three of those teams would be above 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.960 five fighting for a playoff spot. But that's where we are. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.200 There was basically one team that I think has kind 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.200 of been what everybody thought they were. In no disrespect 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:10.920 to him, because we'll talk about them on Thursdays with 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.120 the Bears, you know, this season, who are still in 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.520 the midst of a rebuild. So that was my first 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.760 thing I took away to the disheartening part about this 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.640 the difficult, most difficult thing to swallow is the Packers 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.719 were within seven points still of the number one seed 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.800 right now in the NFC and to be able to 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.840 put up thirty three points on that defense. Philadelphia, they 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.920 do what they do, man, They're not going to deviate 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.719 from it. They're going to try to apply pressure with 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.320 their front and they're gonna be able to create opportunities 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:40.840 on the back end. That's the way it's predicated. But 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.320 they were able to move the football, they were able 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:46.080 to run the ball against him, but ultimately, you know, 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.360 you still fall short in three. The part that makes 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.440 this difficult to swallow is in a year in which 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.760 I really truly believe any of the seven teams that 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.320 make the playoffs in the NFC are going to have 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.880 a realistic shot at the super Bowl, it's getting to 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.919 be more and more dire here Green Bay trying to 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.520 stay in that race. I think it was a two 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.279 percent or whatever they put it at right now for 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:10.080 the Packers playoff chances. When they've had opportunities, they've come 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.320 up short. And when I say short, I mean I'm 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.600 literally talking within a score too. It's just has been 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.760 they haven't really gotten blown out for the most part 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:24.040 this season. But the teams that are able to pull 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.200 together that are able to, you know, overcome the adversity, 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:33.360 are able to, you know, in an imperfect game, find 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.680 the most answers. Those are the teams that win, and 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.760 green Day was so good at that the last few 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.679 years and this year it's just been a situation where 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.560 you can't get the Yang and Yang quite too fit. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.440 And this was another game it Keishaw Nixon has a 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.640 phenomenal performance as a kickoff returner. They get a fifty 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.360 three yard or to midfield late in the game and 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.440 they go three and out afterwards. It's those type of 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.600 things that when something goes well, you haven't been able 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.520 to build that momentum. Yeah, and it's also it's also 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.320 been a case of any time a mistake is made, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.120 it ends up proving really really costly because you end 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.640 up losing these games by such close scores. You mentioned 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.520 Nixon who had a phenomenal night fifty two yard, fifty 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:20.800 three yard, thirty eight yard kickoff return, but what happened 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.880 on an early kickoff return He flubbed one, then he 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.480 ended up slipping and falling at the nine yard line, 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.720 and then what happens there Aaron Rodgers ends up throwing 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.960 an interception on a ball that gets deflected, Philadelphia has 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.360 a short field and they get a touchdown. It all 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.880 traces back to the fact that that possession started at 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.000 the nine yard line instead of starting at the twenty five. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.040 If you just take the touchback, that kind of thing. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:45.280 And I don't mean to pick on Nixon, because, as 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.160 I said, he had a great night and he more 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.840 than made up for his mistake. But my point is 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.880 that every time this Packers team makes a mistake, it 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.679 proves absolutely critical and costly to them because they just 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.680 don't have the margin for error to overcome. Um those 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:04.079 kinds of things. In a game that clearly the Packers 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.520 defense was struggling, the offense was gonna have to score 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.280 as much as possible to keep up an opportunity to 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.360 put points on the board. The Packers are knocking on 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.560 the door, but Aaron Rodgers throws an interception when he 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.480 and Tyler Davis, the tight end, are not on the 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.000 same page. Rogers thinks that Davis is going to stay 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.200 up the seam, Davis keeps his route flat coming across. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.480 Rodgers after the game said he regretted throwing the ball 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.720 because they weren't on the same page, but he saw 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.559 even though he wasn't running the route he was expecting. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.720 He decided to give him a chance anyway through it. Anyway, Well, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.640 the backup safety blanket ship for the Eagles ends up 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.560 undercutting the route and picking it off. He's in the 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:44.280 game because c. J. Gardner Johnson had gotten injured earlier. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.800 That interception took points off the board for the Packers, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.960 and that was another mistake you just you cannot afford 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.640 in uh in that type of game, the way it 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:58.720 was unfolding. As this game ultimately unfolded, Aaron Rodgers leaves 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:05.000 with with an injury to his ribs um extremely painful, 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.920 very uncomfortable. What we heard on Monday is a lot 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.400 of tests still being done. Nothing definitive yet on the diagnosis. 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.079 Rogers was feeling better. He would like to keep playing 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.839 as long as everything checks out. Okay, very much up 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.360 in the air at this point as to where that's 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.480 going to go. Jordan Loves stepped in in the fourth 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.400 quarter and lead the Packers to two scoring drives. Sixty 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.960 three yard touchdown pass to Christian Watson on the catch 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.480 and run, and then uh late in the game, um 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:34.880 couple cracks at the end zone there that would have 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.080 um that would have possibly gotten the Packers within three points, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:39.920 but settled for the field goal to get the game 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.880 to the on side kick there at the end. But 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:47.120 Jordan loved to possessions and ten points. UM. Very interesting 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.040 here because he played well in a tough spot, and 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.640 if with the Packers at four and eight, if they 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.800 do get mathematically eliminated from playoff contention, They're going to 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.200 be discussions as to whether Jordan's loves should play out 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.040 the rest of the season. This was in a very 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.800 small sample size, just two possessions, but it was a 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:10.000 pretty impressive outing for the young man, showing a heck 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.280 of a lot of progress from what we saw last 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.800 year in Kansas City and in Detroit when he played 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:20.319 roughly a game and a half. Um. Yeah, I mean 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:24.360 the thing about this game was well one, the fact 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.240 that that first third down conversion for the entire game 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.520 for green Bay came on the seven yard out. That 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.000 that love through to those ard again, that sort of 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.080 illustrates one of the issues green Bay has had this year. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:36.800 Last year they were good on third downs, they were 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:38.440 good in the red zone. Those two areas have just 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.400 been kind of difficult. But when you look at it 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.920 from Love's perspective, and he even talked about it afterwards, 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.480 the confidence that he felt after that to be able 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.320 to get into a rhythm. You saw it, and I 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.000 thought it carried through the rest of the game. The 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:53.800 Eagles aren't the type of team that are gonna throw 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.199 six guys at you every single time. So, I mean 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.560 they were kind of sitting back a little bit, trying 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.120 to eat up some o'clock. They a multi score lead. 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.040 They were not. They they their whole plan was to 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:05.840 not get gashed for the big play. But then it 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.960 happened anyway because because Christian Watson was just too darned fast. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.960 And let's also be honest and let's be fair to 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.600 Love here. He put that ball exactly where it needed 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.600 to be for Watson to be able to continue to 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.320 hit all cylinders, no question. Twenty point nine seven miles 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.400 per hour or whatever it was that next gen stats 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:27.400 had him clocked. At this guy, I keep saying it like, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.800 I mean, his speed is prodigious. I mean it is. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.520 I have not seen an athlete like this at his size. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:36.240 I mean, he is a monstrous dude that runs like 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.280 a track star. It's and he didn't even I mean, 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.520 this is the thing. I mean, you you mentioned the 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.840 next gen stat thing where he was clocked at you know, 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:48.120 just a shade under twenty one miles per hour. It 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.320 didn't look like he was running that fast. I mean, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.320 it looked like he was running that fast because he 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.120 was running away from the defenders, but it didn't look 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.600 like he was even necessarily giving it. And I'm not 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.000 saying that he wasn't. It just doesn't look like that 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.120 because it looks so effortless for him. It's it's amazing. 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.839 It's amazing how he can get up to that kind 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.240 of speed and make it look so easy. Well, it 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:13.920 reminds me when I was in high school and there 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.520 was these guys that would always like you could run. Yes, 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.520 it was a big time for me. I I was 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.360 gonna go pro like Uncle Rico. Um. But you know, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.280 be those guys that that sit there and they rev 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.160 their trucks and they're they're, you know, really getting the 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.280 thing going and they're going like six miles an hour. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.080 But then you see some of these like real sports 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.439 card type things, and those things just zoom and you 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.920 don't hear anything. Right, that's Watson. It's just and it's 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.960 just and it's interesting talking to him and seeing him, 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:43.520 you know, and how he worked with the media match 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.560 and Iman and I were interviewing him afterwards while everyone 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.840 else was talking to Jordan's Love and the guy carries 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.920 himself like a professional. I'm so excited to see where 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.920 his career is going to go. I mean, up once 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.920 again for the NFL Rookie of the Week honors. I 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.400 mean this, this guy's if he can stay healthy. You 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.199 love everything you've seen from him as it relates though 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.560 to your initial question when you look at Jordan's Love. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.439 Last year against Kansas City was a tough spot for 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.840 him to be thrown into. Rogers gets you know, pops 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.120 with COVID. So he's thrown in there, and it is 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.040 the true definition of a spot, start right, It's and 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:17.920 it's a it's a it's a defense that through the 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:22.200 kitchen sink at him. He struggled against it. Detroit Week 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.760 eighteen was just a total mess, you know, and everything 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.280 and how they approached it. What I liked about this 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.760 is he stood tall in the pocket. He was decisive, 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.320 and you want to talk about a guy that looked 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.840 like he knew what he was doing. After three years 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.200 now almost in this scheme. It was very impressive to 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.960 see Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback. Everybody's saying it. Matt 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:44.800 Lufloor said it on Monday. If he's healthy, if he's 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.840 cleared with this rib injury, he will play against Chicago. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.000 But when you look at Jordan's love and you're looking 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.760 for markers of his improvement, I thought this game is 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.000 hundred forty six passer rating. It showed you not only 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.080 his potential, but how he was seamlessly able to sort 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.880 of integrate himself in with this offense. This is a 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.280 guy that's had a lot of snaps and practice Mike 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.840 with Christian Watson, with that first team offensive line when 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.720 Rogers hasn't been able to go. You can tell the 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.520 difference there in the comfort level when he was out 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.520 there this year. Yeah, and it was interesting too because 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.720 Matt Lafleur actually talked about what what might have been 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.320 Jordan loves. The most impressive throw of the nine pass 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.920 attempts that he had in the game was actually one 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.680 of the three incompletions where he's trying to hit Aaron 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.600 Jones on. Some people call it a whole shot, others 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.840 call it honey hole. What that is a reference to 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:40.800 is a sideline route where the intended receiver in this 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.640 case it's a running back in Aaron Jones is in 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:48.800 between a short corner in a deep safety and uh Um. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.680 In order to fit that pass in there, you've got 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.720 to fire it because if you if if you put 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.760 any kind of touch or loft on it, it's going 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.040 to hang in the air for too long and one 0:15:58.040 --> 0:15:59.880 of the defenders is going to get there in time, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.880 or receiver is gonna get lit up right exactly, You're 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.960 gonna leave your receiver hanging out to dry and he's 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.120 gonna get clawbered if he's trying to catch it while 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.600 keeping his feet in bound. And Jordan's Loves saw the 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.840 opportunity for the whole shot against Aaron Jones down the 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.560 sideline and he let it rip um and Jones wasn't 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.600 able to catch it. Um. I'm sure he would say 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.400 he would love to have that one back. He made 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.080 a great catch in the back of the end zone 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.760 on an Aaron Rodgers scrambled drill earlier in the game 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:30.440 that got the Packers a big touchdown. But that that 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.600 throw from Jordan's Love right there shows you something about 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:38.160 about the progress, the confidence, everything about the footwork and 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.960 the timing and all of that. UM, so very interested 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:46.040 to see what happens here with with the Packers at 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:50.120 quarterback moving forward. UM. Aaron Rodgers has said obviously, if 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.320 he's cleared and the Packers still have a chance, he 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.200 would like to be he would like to keep playing. UM. Realistically, 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.920 the Packers are one loss away from really they're not 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.800 being any more math on their side. Whatsoever, you get 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.160 to nine losses that the best you can finishes eight 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.160 and nine. The way things look in the NFC right now, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:14.040 it looks like nine and eight, well maybe get one 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.560 of the final playoff spots. And there's even no guarantee 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.920 of that at this point, depending on how on how 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.160 things shake out. So maybe we're going to see more 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.159 of Jordan's love moving forward. UM. Hopefully whoever it is 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.280 at quarterback for the Packers this week against the Bears, 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.480 Rogers or Love, hopefully the Packers can get a win 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.160 and avoid that ninth loss at least for a little 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:37.480 while longer. And then you and then you see what happens. UM. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.200 I want to get to and you mentioned on our 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.160 next show, we'll talk about the Chicago Bears. I want 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.800 to get to what was really a very wild week 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.560 of football in the NFL in Week twelve. After a 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.399 little bit of sponsored business. Here serious x M NFL 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.680 Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:58.200 NFL news that true football f x seven, three, six five, 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.480 and at Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone like 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.520 our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and Cheese, golden fries, and 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.960 creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or sub 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:11.440 in a bowl. Cousins Subs fifty years of better Um 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:18.160 Week twelve in the NFL West, eleven games decided by 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:23.200 one score or less. Obviously, you know, eight points or less. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.280 Eleven games in one week. We're talking about two overtime 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:32.120 games where Cleveland beats Tampa Bay and the Raiders beat 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.920 the Seahawks on the road on an eighty six yard 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.520 touchdown run in overtime, one of the longest, maybe the 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.760 longest walk off touchdown in the history of the league. 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.560 I don't know. You have two other games that come 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.080 down to coaches deciding down by one to go for 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.119 two in the last fifteen seconds of the fourth quarter 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.080 rather than kick and play for overtime. They go for two. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.720 Both the Chargers and the Jaguars get the two point 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:01.040 conversions and they win those games. And the game with 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:05.000 uh with Jacksonville against Baltimore ends up coming down to 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.160 a sixty seven yard field goal attempted by Justin Tucker 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.800 um the Washington Commanders, who have now won six of 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:16.280 their last seven. They end up winning a close one 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.359 at home against the Atlanta Falcons um when a ball 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:22.639 is tipped and intercepted at the goal line in the 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.680 last minute, a minute and a half or two minutes 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.520 or whatever was left on the clock. Just another I mean, 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.360 game after game in this league, week after week, these games, 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.120 so many of them are so close. You have to fight, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.159 you have to find a way to win. And at 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.399 the end of the day, the teams that find a 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.879 way most often are the ones that still get to 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.639 play late into January and everybody else, everybody else is 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.080 licking their wounds, so to speak. But this past week, 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.200 Week twelve in the NFL was absolutely the epitome of 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.080 what this league is about and how any game at 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.520 any moment can just turn on a dime. And let's 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.480 not even talk about Sunday too. Look at Thursday, Yeah, 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.239 I mean, and I am including the Thursday games, in 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.280 the eleven games decided by one score. That's looking at 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:10.560 the entire week in general, including the Thanksgiving games. But 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.440 but Thursday night is I'm in my Turkey coma. You know, 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.840 I get done watching the Cowboys in Giants, which ends 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.080 up going right down to the wire. Then I'm watching, 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.320 you know, the Vikings and Patriots, who, out of all 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.080 the variables that you never see happening with a matchup, 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.439