1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: by my partner and crime Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. Unfortunately, 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: we have another Packers defeat to talk about, the seventh 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: in eight games. This one very different style of game 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: than what we've been used to seeing here with the 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. This one was a shootout at Lincoln 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: Financial Field on Sunday night. Football. Game was tied at 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: one point in the second quarter, Eagles pulled away. Packers 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: couldn't catch up. Final score for thirty three, and at 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it was a rough night 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: on defense and a couple of very regrettable mistakes on 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: offense that were the difference in this game. Yeah, and 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: it was funny because, no, obviously you're not sitting here 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: last week thinking three and sixty three rushing our the 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: loud or anything like that. But what was the number 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: one thing you and I were talking about. It's like 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: this Eagles offense is not going to stay down much longer. 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: They had off performances against Washington and against Indianapolis, and 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: they brought all of it in this game against the Packers. Ultimately, 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things you can break down here as 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: to why the Packers lost that game, But for me, 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: it's miss tackles. And Matt Lafleur said it as Monday 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: press conference, twenty miss tackles. That's the most during his 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: time here as the Packers. He said. He thought it 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: was more than twenty as they were as they were 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: going through, he said Sunday night after the game, the 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: live charts that indicated that the Packers were keeping it 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: indicated fifteen miss tackles, and then after the coaches reviewed 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: the film on Monday, the number climbed above twenties somewhere. 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just when you have 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback like Jalen Hurts, a legitimate m VP candidate, 34 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: a guy that is just he's just a he's like 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: a just a battery of energy, Like it's just this 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: this uh energy are bad you know, bunny kind of 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: thing where he is able to take place like I've 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: never seen anybody like this in terms of if it 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: breaks down you get him into the open field, he's 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: like a running back. But if he has time to throw. 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: He has the arm talent to make you pay um 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: the touchdown pass that he had there. I mean, he 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: is then all around playmaker and for the Packers, if 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: you get a hand on him, you have to get 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: him to the ground. And and Green Bay didn't do 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: enough of that in this game. As you said, a 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: shootout from the very beginning, fourteen to thirteen in the 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: first quarter. I thought this was very interesting. I guess 49 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: that was the most points scored in an NFL first 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: quarter this season. I would have thought it had been 51 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: more than twenty seven. But that's the way it's worked out. 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: And the Packers did some really good things in this 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: game offensively, but defensively. We talked week after week after 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: week about the complimentary football component of this thing, and 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: and defensively, Greenbay just didn't have very many answers for 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Yeah, the twenty plus miss tacklesbviously really stood out, 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: and you said it in terms of getting a hand 58 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts. But that's not enough, and it's not 59 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: and it's not enough to get one guy to the football, 60 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: because yes, the Packers can't miss that many tackles, but 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: he's also and not just him, but it was Miles Sanders. 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: It was also the receivers on some short routes and 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: things where they were they were breaking tackles. But defense 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: is all about getting enough guys to the football where 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: if there is a miss tackle, it the play doesn't 66 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: rupture into a big game. And the Packers defensively way 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: too often we're leaving it all on one guy to 68 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: make a tackle in an open field situation, and nobody 69 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: else was there to help clean it up. So when 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: there was a miss tackle, it wasn't just a couple 71 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: of extra yards. It was a garden variety play turning 72 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: into an explosive or a ruptured type of play that 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: was really damaging. Jalen Hurts and Miles Sanders combining for 74 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: three hundred of the three d sixty three rushing yards. 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Philadelphia goes eight for fifteen on third down, also converts 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: a couple of fourth downs when the when the third 77 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: and long, they got close enough to then be able 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: to convert on fourth down. It was just a really, 79 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: really rough night for the defense. They had essentially three 80 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: good possessions defensively. They got a fourth and one stop 81 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: early in the game on Jalen Hurts, which was which 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: was a key point early for the Packers to stay 83 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: in this game. There was a a fumble and a 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: recovery and long return by Kuay Walker that's set up 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: the Packers for some points. And then there was also 86 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: a three and out in the in in the midst there. 87 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: But other than those three possessions, the Eagles basically scored 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: every time they had the ball. And then on the 89 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: final possession of the game, with a minute to go, 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: they ran the ball three times, moved the chains, and 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: and kneeled out the clock. Um. Just not enough, not 92 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: enough stops and uh, and just a very frustrating way 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: to lose when the Packers offense which has struggled so much, 94 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: you know, only getting the seventeen points against Tennessee the 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: week before, not being able to win in Detroit when 96 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: the Lions only score fifteen points, and not being able 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: to get that victory, to have a season high with 98 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: thirty three points, and to come up and to come 99 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: up short. It's just another a different way, uh, a 100 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: different way to swallow another tough loss. I guess, for 101 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: lack of a better phrase, there was three things that 102 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: I kind of walked away from with this thing, no 103 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: pun intended for our award winning Packers dot Com show 104 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Three Things, but there were three things I walked away from. One. 105 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: The Packers schedule this year is probably one of the 106 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: most difficult I think I've seen, uh in my time 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: on the beat. The way it's worked out, the lay 108 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: up games, Washington, the New York Jets, Giants, they all 109 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: ended up being a lot more competitive this year than 110 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: we imagine. All three of those teams might make the 111 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: playoffs now when at the beginning of the season, nobody 112 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: was putting any of those three times, especially now with 113 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: Mike White at quarterback. No nobody would have said after 114 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving that all three of those teams would be above 115 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: five fighting for a playoff spot. But that's where we are. 116 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: There was basically one team that I think has kind 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: of been what everybody thought they were. In no disrespect 118 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: to him, because we'll talk about them on Thursdays with 119 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: the Bears, you know, this season, who are still in 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: the midst of a rebuild. So that was my first 121 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: thing I took away to the disheartening part about this 122 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: the difficult, most difficult thing to swallow is the Packers 123 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: were within seven points still of the number one seed 124 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: right now in the NFC and to be able to 125 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: put up thirty three points on that defense. Philadelphia, they 126 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: do what they do, man, They're not going to deviate 127 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: from it. They're going to try to apply pressure with 128 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: their front and they're gonna be able to create opportunities 129 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: on the back end. That's the way it's predicated. But 130 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: they were able to move the football, they were able 131 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: to run the ball against him, but ultimately, you know, 132 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: you still fall short in three. The part that makes 133 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: this difficult to swallow is in a year in which 134 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I really truly believe any of the seven teams that 135 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: make the playoffs in the NFC are going to have 136 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: a realistic shot at the super Bowl, it's getting to 137 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: be more and more dire here Green Bay trying to 138 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: stay in that race. I think it was a two 139 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: percent or whatever they put it at right now for 140 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: the Packers playoff chances. When they've had opportunities, they've come 141 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: up short. And when I say short, I mean I'm 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: literally talking within a score too. It's just has been 143 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: they haven't really gotten blown out for the most part 144 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: this season. But the teams that are able to pull 145 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: together that are able to, you know, overcome the adversity, 146 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: are able to, you know, in an imperfect game, find 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: the most answers. Those are the teams that win, and 148 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: green Day was so good at that the last few 149 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: years and this year it's just been a situation where 150 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: you can't get the Yang and Yang quite too fit. 151 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: And this was another game it Keishaw Nixon has a 152 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: phenomenal performance as a kickoff returner. They get a fifty 153 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: three yard or to midfield late in the game and 154 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: they go three and out afterwards. It's those type of 155 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: things that when something goes well, you haven't been able 156 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: to build that momentum. Yeah, and it's also it's also 157 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: been a case of any time a mistake is made, 158 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: it ends up proving really really costly because you end 159 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: up losing these games by such close scores. You mentioned 160 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Nixon who had a phenomenal night fifty two yard, fifty 161 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: three yard, thirty eight yard kickoff return, but what happened 162 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: on an early kickoff return He flubbed one, then he 163 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: ended up slipping and falling at the nine yard line, 164 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: and then what happens there Aaron Rodgers ends up throwing 165 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: an interception on a ball that gets deflected, Philadelphia has 166 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: a short field and they get a touchdown. It all 167 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: traces back to the fact that that possession started at 168 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: the nine yard line instead of starting at the twenty five. 169 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: If you just take the touchback, that kind of thing. 170 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to pick on Nixon, because, as 171 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: I said, he had a great night and he more 172 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: than made up for his mistake. But my point is 173 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: that every time this Packers team makes a mistake, it 174 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: proves absolutely critical and costly to them because they just 175 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: don't have the margin for error to overcome. Um those 176 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: kinds of things. In a game that clearly the Packers 177 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: defense was struggling, the offense was gonna have to score 178 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: as much as possible to keep up an opportunity to 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: put points on the board. The Packers are knocking on 180 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: the door, but Aaron Rodgers throws an interception when he 181 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: and Tyler Davis, the tight end, are not on the 182 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: same page. Rogers thinks that Davis is going to stay 183 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: up the seam, Davis keeps his route flat coming across. 184 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers after the game said he regretted throwing the ball 185 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: because they weren't on the same page, but he saw 186 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: even though he wasn't running the route he was expecting. 187 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: He decided to give him a chance anyway through it. Anyway, Well, 188 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: the backup safety blanket ship for the Eagles ends up 189 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: undercutting the route and picking it off. He's in the 190 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: game because c. J. Gardner Johnson had gotten injured earlier. 191 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: That interception took points off the board for the Packers, 192 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: and that was another mistake you just you cannot afford 193 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: in uh in that type of game, the way it 194 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: was unfolding. As this game ultimately unfolded, Aaron Rodgers leaves 195 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: with with an injury to his ribs um extremely painful, 196 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. What we heard on Monday is a lot 197 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: of tests still being done. Nothing definitive yet on the diagnosis. 198 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: Rogers was feeling better. He would like to keep playing 199 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: as long as everything checks out. Okay, very much up 200 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: in the air at this point as to where that's 201 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: going to go. Jordan Loves stepped in in the fourth 202 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: quarter and lead the Packers to two scoring drives. Sixty 203 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: three yard touchdown pass to Christian Watson on the catch 204 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: and run, and then uh late in the game, um 205 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: couple cracks at the end zone there that would have 206 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: um that would have possibly gotten the Packers within three points, 207 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: but settled for the field goal to get the game 208 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: to the on side kick there at the end. But 209 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: Jordan loved to possessions and ten points. UM. Very interesting 210 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: here because he played well in a tough spot, and 211 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: if with the Packers at four and eight, if they 212 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: do get mathematically eliminated from playoff contention, They're going to 213 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: be discussions as to whether Jordan's loves should play out 214 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. This was in a very 215 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: small sample size, just two possessions, but it was a 216 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: pretty impressive outing for the young man, showing a heck 217 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: of a lot of progress from what we saw last 218 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: year in Kansas City and in Detroit when he played 219 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: roughly a game and a half. Um. Yeah, I mean 220 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: the thing about this game was well one, the fact 221 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: that that first third down conversion for the entire game 222 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: for green Bay came on the seven yard out. That 223 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: that love through to those ard again, that sort of 224 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: illustrates one of the issues green Bay has had this year. 225 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: Last year they were good on third downs, they were 226 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: good in the red zone. Those two areas have just 227 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: been kind of difficult. But when you look at it 228 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: from Love's perspective, and he even talked about it afterwards, 229 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: the confidence that he felt after that to be able 230 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: to get into a rhythm. You saw it, and I 231 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: thought it carried through the rest of the game. The 232 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Eagles aren't the type of team that are gonna throw 233 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: six guys at you every single time. So, I mean 234 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: they were kind of sitting back a little bit, trying 235 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: to eat up some o'clock. They a multi score lead. 236 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: They were not. They they their whole plan was to 237 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: not get gashed for the big play. But then it 238 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: happened anyway because because Christian Watson was just too darned fast. 239 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: And let's also be honest and let's be fair to 240 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: Love here. He put that ball exactly where it needed 241 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: to be for Watson to be able to continue to 242 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: hit all cylinders, no question. Twenty point nine seven miles 243 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: per hour or whatever it was that next gen stats 244 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: had him clocked. At this guy, I keep saying it like, 245 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean, his speed is prodigious. I mean it is. 246 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: I have not seen an athlete like this at his size. 247 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he is a monstrous dude that runs like 248 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: a track star. It's and he didn't even I mean, 249 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: this is the thing. I mean, you you mentioned the 250 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: next gen stat thing where he was clocked at you know, 251 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: just a shade under twenty one miles per hour. It 252 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: didn't look like he was running that fast. I mean, 253 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: it looked like he was running that fast because he 254 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: was running away from the defenders, but it didn't look 255 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: like he was even necessarily giving it. And I'm not 256 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: saying that he wasn't. It just doesn't look like that 257 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: because it looks so effortless for him. It's it's amazing. 258 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: It's amazing how he can get up to that kind 259 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: of speed and make it look so easy. Well, it 260 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: reminds me when I was in high school and there 261 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: was these guys that would always like you could run. Yes, 262 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: it was a big time for me. I I was 263 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: gonna go pro like Uncle Rico. Um. But you know, 264 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: be those guys that that sit there and they rev 265 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: their trucks and they're they're, you know, really getting the 266 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: thing going and they're going like six miles an hour. 267 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: But then you see some of these like real sports 268 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: card type things, and those things just zoom and you 269 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: don't hear anything. Right, that's Watson. It's just and it's 270 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: just and it's interesting talking to him and seeing him, 271 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, and how he worked with the media match 272 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: and Iman and I were interviewing him afterwards while everyone 273 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: else was talking to Jordan's Love and the guy carries 274 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: himself like a professional. I'm so excited to see where 275 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: his career is going to go. I mean, up once 276 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: again for the NFL Rookie of the Week honors. I 277 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: mean this, this guy's if he can stay healthy. You 278 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: love everything you've seen from him as it relates though 279 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: to your initial question when you look at Jordan's Love. 280 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: Last year against Kansas City was a tough spot for 281 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: him to be thrown into. Rogers gets you know, pops 282 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: with COVID. So he's thrown in there, and it is 283 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: the true definition of a spot, start right, It's and 284 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a defense that through the 285 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: kitchen sink at him. He struggled against it. Detroit Week 286 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: eighteen was just a total mess, you know, and everything 287 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: and how they approached it. What I liked about this 288 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: is he stood tall in the pocket. He was decisive, 289 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: and you want to talk about a guy that looked 290 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: like he knew what he was doing. After three years 291 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: now almost in this scheme. It was very impressive to 292 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: see Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback. Everybody's saying it. Matt 293 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: Lufloor said it on Monday. If he's healthy, if he's 294 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: cleared with this rib injury, he will play against Chicago. 295 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: But when you look at Jordan's love and you're looking 296 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: for markers of his improvement, I thought this game is 297 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: hundred forty six passer rating. It showed you not only 298 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: his potential, but how he was seamlessly able to sort 299 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: of integrate himself in with this offense. This is a 300 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: guy that's had a lot of snaps and practice Mike 301 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: with Christian Watson, with that first team offensive line when 302 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Rogers hasn't been able to go. You can tell the 303 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: difference there in the comfort level when he was out 304 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: there this year. Yeah, and it was interesting too because 305 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur actually talked about what what might have been 306 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: Jordan loves. The most impressive throw of the nine pass 307 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: attempts that he had in the game was actually one 308 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: of the three incompletions where he's trying to hit Aaron 309 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: Jones on. Some people call it a whole shot, others 310 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: call it honey hole. What that is a reference to 311 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: is a sideline route where the intended receiver in this 312 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: case it's a running back in Aaron Jones is in 313 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: between a short corner in a deep safety and uh Um. 314 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: In order to fit that pass in there, you've got 315 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: to fire it because if you if if you put 316 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: any kind of touch or loft on it, it's going 317 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: to hang in the air for too long and one 318 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: of the defenders is going to get there in time, 319 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: or receiver is gonna get lit up right exactly, You're 320 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: gonna leave your receiver hanging out to dry and he's 321 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna get clawbered if he's trying to catch it while 322 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: keeping his feet in bound. And Jordan's Loves saw the 323 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: opportunity for the whole shot against Aaron Jones down the 324 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: sideline and he let it rip um and Jones wasn't 325 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: able to catch it. Um. I'm sure he would say 326 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: he would love to have that one back. He made 327 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: a great catch in the back of the end zone 328 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: on an Aaron Rodgers scrambled drill earlier in the game 329 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: that got the Packers a big touchdown. But that that 330 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: throw from Jordan's Love right there shows you something about 331 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: about the progress, the confidence, everything about the footwork and 332 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: the timing and all of that. UM, so very interested 333 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: to see what happens here with with the Packers at 334 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: quarterback moving forward. UM. Aaron Rodgers has said obviously, if 335 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: he's cleared and the Packers still have a chance, he 336 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: would like to be he would like to keep playing. UM. Realistically, 337 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: the Packers are one loss away from really they're not 338 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: being any more math on their side. Whatsoever, you get 339 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: to nine losses that the best you can finishes eight 340 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: and nine. The way things look in the NFC right now, 341 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: it looks like nine and eight, well maybe get one 342 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: of the final playoff spots. And there's even no guarantee 343 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: of that at this point, depending on how on how 344 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: things shake out. So maybe we're going to see more 345 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: of Jordan's love moving forward. UM. Hopefully whoever it is 346 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: at quarterback for the Packers this week against the Bears, 347 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: Rogers or Love, hopefully the Packers can get a win 348 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: and avoid that ninth loss at least for a little 349 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: while longer. And then you and then you see what happens. UM. 350 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: I want to get to and you mentioned on our 351 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: next show, we'll talk about the Chicago Bears. I want 352 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: to get to what was really a very wild week 353 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: of football in the NFL in Week twelve. After a 354 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: little bit of sponsored business. Here serious x M NFL 355 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute 356 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: NFL news that true football f x seven, three, six five, 357 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: and at Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone like 358 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and Cheese, golden fries, and 359 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or sub 360 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: in a bowl. Cousins Subs fifty years of better Um 361 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: Week twelve in the NFL West, eleven games decided by 362 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: one score or less. Obviously, you know, eight points or less. 363 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: Eleven games in one week. We're talking about two overtime 364 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: games where Cleveland beats Tampa Bay and the Raiders beat 365 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawks on the road on an eighty six yard 366 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: touchdown run in overtime, one of the longest, maybe the 367 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: longest walk off touchdown in the history of the league. 368 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. You have two other games that come 369 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: down to coaches deciding down by one to go for 370 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: two in the last fifteen seconds of the fourth quarter 371 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: rather than kick and play for overtime. They go for two. 372 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: Both the Chargers and the Jaguars get the two point 373 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: conversions and they win those games. And the game with 374 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: uh with Jacksonville against Baltimore ends up coming down to 375 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: a sixty seven yard field goal attempted by Justin Tucker 376 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: um the Washington Commanders, who have now won six of 377 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: their last seven. They end up winning a close one 378 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: at home against the Atlanta Falcons um when a ball 379 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: is tipped and intercepted at the goal line in the 380 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: last minute, a minute and a half or two minutes 381 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: or whatever was left on the clock. Just another I mean, 382 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: game after game in this league, week after week, these games, 383 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: so many of them are so close. You have to fight, 384 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: you have to find a way to win. And at 385 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: the end of the day, the teams that find a 386 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: way most often are the ones that still get to 387 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: play late into January and everybody else, everybody else is 388 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: licking their wounds, so to speak. But this past week, 389 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: Week twelve in the NFL was absolutely the epitome of 390 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: what this league is about and how any game at 391 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: any moment can just turn on a dime. And let's 392 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: not even talk about Sunday too. Look at Thursday, Yeah, 393 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,239 Speaker 1: I mean, and I am including the Thursday games, in 394 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: the eleven games decided by one score. That's looking at 395 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: the entire week in general, including the Thanksgiving games. But 396 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: but Thursday night is I'm in my Turkey coma. You know, 397 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: I get done watching the Cowboys in Giants, which ends 398 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: up going right down to the wire. Then I'm watching, 399 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, the Vikings and Patriots, who, out of all 400 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: the variables that you never see happening with a matchup, 401 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's team losing because of special teams. Yeah, to 402 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: to major, major blunders on special teams by a Bill 403 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: Belichick team that costs his team what would be what 404 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: what would have been a huge victory in that a 405 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: f C East race for New England. And then Josh 406 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: Allen comes back, you know, just absolutely rips the heart 407 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: out of the Detroit Lions. I mean, just unbelievable, you know. 408 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: And again this is what Premium Pro Bowl, all pro 409 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: type talent, that's what they do. You know, they make 410 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: craziness happen. And I'm sitting there then on Sunday in 411 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: my hotel him waiting for us to get you know, 412 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 1: to go to the game, and you're seeing Trevor Lawrence 413 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: throw some of the hardest balls that I've ever seen. 414 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it is incredible. The passes he 415 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: was throwing in the decisive nous, and and he he 416 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: had to drive, he had to drive the Jaguars. I 417 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: want to say it was close to ninety yards for 418 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: that final touchdown, and he is throwing rockets, darts. I mean, 419 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: like I felt bad for his receiver's hands by the time, 420 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: and the and the and the two point conversion was 421 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: was a two yard missile to the pylon. I mean, 422 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: it was like he just he just was not he 423 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: was not holding back. That was that was impressive. And 424 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, as you talked about watching these teams, you know, 425 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: Doug Doug Peterson, all right, we got the touchdown, We're 426 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: going for the win. We're not playing for this overtime business. 427 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: And Brandon Staley for the Chargers did the same thing. 428 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: Another guy that that the decision doesn't surprise you based 429 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: on the track record, Right, That's that's the kind that's 430 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: the way these guys the teams. And the tragic thing 431 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: again for Green Bay is four and seven Raiders knocking 432 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: off the Seahawks. So now the forty niners are actually 433 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: the top seed right now in the NFC West, and 434 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: Seattle is kind of you know outside looking in now 435 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: again you had, um, the Buccaneers lost again. There's just 436 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: things actually tilted pretty well towards Green Bay's favor in 437 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: terms of these matchups, and you weren't able to capitalize 438 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: on it. So it is what it is. But in 439 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: terms of the entertainment side of this thing, certainly was 440 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: a very interesting weekend of football, going all the way 441 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: from Thursday into well, realistically even Monday night, you know, 442 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: with the you know, the shannigans at the end of 443 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: that game between the Steelers and Colts, right right. I mean, 444 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: here one other thing I want to touch on before 445 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: we go, because this is not a team that we 446 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: have talked about much. They're not on the Packers schedule, 447 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: um and uh, you know, we haven't talked about him 448 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: since last January when they came into lambeau Field and 449 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: knocked the Packers off in the playoffs. And of course 450 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the San Francisco forty Niners. And I 451 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: take nothing away from the phil helf Eagles. They are 452 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: ten and one. They look like they are really tough 453 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: to beat. The Minnesota Vikings bounced back on a short 454 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: week from getting shellacked by the Cowboys, posted a big 455 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: home win over the New England Patriots on Thanksgiving Night. 456 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: The Vikings have just two losses on the year. They 457 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: look like they are headed, um, you know, to the 458 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: playoffs and and will be a threat to make a 459 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: deep playoff run. But I'm telling you for my money 460 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: right now, the most dangerous team in the NFC is 461 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners. That team, and and and 462 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: it's not just because they added Christian McCaffrey to that offense, 463 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: and and and I and because I do think he 464 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: has changed their offense. And there may not be a 465 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: better trio of offensive weapons in the league than McCaffrey, 466 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel and George Kittle when all three of those 467 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: guys are healthy and playing. But the San Francisco forty 468 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: Niners defensively west They have not given up a point 469 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: in the second half of four straight games. Four consecutive 470 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: second half shutouts on defense. I mean, that's like unheard 471 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: of they have. They gave up before Halloween. They gave 472 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: up thirty points in the second half to the Kansas 473 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: City Chiefs when they lost kind of a shootout game 474 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes, and since that game prior to Halloween, 475 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: they have not given up a point in the second 476 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: half of a football game that that team. That team 477 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: is absolutely scary right now in my opinion, even though 478 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: record wise they're not getting the attention that the Eagles 479 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: and the Vikings are getting. San Francisco is the team 480 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: I absolutely would not want to play, right if you 481 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: want to play, if if you don't want to play, 482 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: but if you're going to play San Francisco, make sure 483 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: you get him in September October, kid, because the way 484 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan gets that team trending in November, December 485 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: and into January, they're always building momentum and too. I mean, 486 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: Damico Ryan's has to be a guy that is going 487 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: to be a legitimate top tier head coaching candidate. Question 488 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: and when that happens, I'm really gonna feel bad about 489 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: myself because now I officially I'm starting to year old 490 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: that Damiko Ryan's is going to be a head coach 491 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: of the National Football League. Defensive coordinator I can take that, 492 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: but if he has, it's like, man, it is that 493 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: now you're starting. Now you're starting to get there right. 494 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: You know, Graham Harrold ends up becoming a head coach 495 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: here at some point. That's what makes you feel old, 496 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, in the National Football League or in college football. 497 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: But um be that as it may. The Forts just 498 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: find ways to win football games. And to hold the 499 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: Saints and check the way they did, to hold Alvin Kamara, 500 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: and check the way they did again. It's another one 501 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: of these football teams you just do not want to face. 502 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: And how about this, Mike, we can close on this. 503 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Maybe the NFC West, everybody just anticipated, Okay, how many 504 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: playoff teams are coming out of there this year. Seahawks. 505 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: Maybe they'll be the ones that will be in the 506 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: back there, Gino Smith or Drew Lock. Nobody's looking at them. 507 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: Three playoff teams maybe if you're asking people. In Week 508 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: one NFCC East, okay, maybe Philadelphia challenges Dallas. But otherwise 509 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: it's just when you actually play these games, it's just 510 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: you have to do it out on the grass. Well, 511 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: and and what and what everybody was saying along those 512 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: same lines about the a f C West and the 513 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: court quarterbacks, the quarterbacks in that division. Now there's still 514 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot to play out and obviously the Raiders now 515 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: have won back to back overtime games, and maybe they're 516 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: gonna make a late season run like they did last 517 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: year and get themselves into the picture. The Chargers, I think, 518 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: could still be very dangerous. That the Chiefs of the Chiefs, 519 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: the Broncos have have really struggled. But everybody thought, you know, 520 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: the a f C West with those four quarterbacks was 521 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: going to be the dominant division in football, and it 522 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: hasn't turned It hasn't turned out that way. So as 523 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: you say, you have to play the games and see, uh, 524 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: and see what happens, and it's gonna be it's gonna 525 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: be really fun to see how all of this unfolds 526 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: in the playoff picture and everything down the stretch. It's uh, 527 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: it's not going to be fun for the Packers not 528 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: to be a part of it if if they can't 529 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, put together uh, you know, crazy winning streak 530 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: here down stretch. How many wins will it take? We're 531 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna drop this down justin our producer right now because 532 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: Marvin is on holiday. Um, how many wins will it 533 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: take for the NFC South? How many wins to win 534 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: the division? Oh? I mean I think nine and eight. 535 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: I think nine and eight could win that. And when 536 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: i'm you think you think you think a sub five 537 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: division champion out of the a f of the NFC South, 538 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: I just I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would It wouldn't 539 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: shock me. I just loved it. If you're asking me 540 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: for what I think, I think it'll be. I think 541 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: it'll be nine and eight. But the Saints get smacked 542 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: and there's still like a game and a half of 543 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: the leader right now on that division. Yeah, that's the 544 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: that's the division to be in if you want to 545 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: be clinging to u to realistic playoff hopes when when 546 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: things haven't gone your way and we'll see how We'll 547 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: see what happens there. Yeah, that was I mean, for 548 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: the for the Buccaneers to lose in overtime at Cleveland, 549 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: that was a that was a game they were chalking 550 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: up as a victory for sure to try to take 551 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: command of things. Didn't work out that way, and now 552 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is fighting an uphill climb as well. So 553 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: with that, we'll call it a wrap on this edition 554 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. You sure to follow all of our 555 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: coverage of the team. We've got it all for you 556 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: on packers dot com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you 557 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: for tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time.