1 00:00:05,536 --> 00:00:07,696 Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is 2 00:00:07,736 --> 00:00:10,656 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. 3 00:00:12,096 --> 00:00:17,856 Speaker 2: We got lots, just say, we got lots to save. 4 00:00:20,616 --> 00:00:24,136 Speaker 3: What a becker here? And we hope you say because we. 5 00:00:24,056 --> 00:00:28,416 Speaker 1: Got lots, Yeah, we got lots. 6 00:00:28,776 --> 00:00:29,296 Speaker 3: Just say. 7 00:00:31,416 --> 00:00:33,656 Speaker 2: Here's everybody. 8 00:00:33,656 --> 00:00:35,496 Speaker 1: We're going to talk with Logan Ryan In a second 9 00:00:35,896 --> 00:00:38,775 Speaker 1: Logan played to the Patriots, the Titans, Giants, the Bucks, 10 00:00:38,815 --> 00:00:41,256 Speaker 1: and the Niners before he ended. He's got two Super 11 00:00:41,256 --> 00:00:42,935 Speaker 1: Bowl rings which we got to wear them. 12 00:00:42,936 --> 00:00:44,815 Speaker 2: We went to his house. Yeah, it was really nice. 13 00:00:45,056 --> 00:00:47,135 Speaker 2: I put one on my toe. Have you met him? 14 00:00:47,455 --> 00:00:49,416 Speaker 2: He was on my team and with the Titan I'm playing. 15 00:00:49,495 --> 00:00:51,976 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Yeah, you guys did not cross over with 16 00:00:51,976 --> 00:00:52,576 Speaker 1: the Patriots. 17 00:00:52,696 --> 00:00:54,336 Speaker 3: No, we didn't cross over. He came in after me. 18 00:00:54,416 --> 00:00:56,736 Speaker 3: I think he was drafted in thirteen. I want to say, 19 00:00:56,816 --> 00:00:57,576 Speaker 3: or something like that. 20 00:00:57,696 --> 00:01:00,616 Speaker 1: Do you guys, are you around each other at all? 21 00:01:00,856 --> 00:01:03,736 Speaker 1: If you're on the offense and he's a defensive player. 22 00:01:04,576 --> 00:01:06,816 Speaker 3: Not as much as you, because offense kind of does 23 00:01:06,856 --> 00:01:09,096 Speaker 3: their own thing. Defense does their own thing. But when 24 00:01:09,136 --> 00:01:11,056 Speaker 3: you come into a locker room, you've got team meetings, 25 00:01:11,056 --> 00:01:14,215 Speaker 3: all that stuff, and you're eating, we're pretty much around 26 00:01:14,216 --> 00:01:15,936 Speaker 3: each other, and so I got to know Logan and 27 00:01:16,096 --> 00:01:18,256 Speaker 3: he is an exceptional person. 28 00:01:19,416 --> 00:01:20,016 Speaker 2: Great dude. 29 00:01:20,336 --> 00:01:22,096 Speaker 3: And then when you see him as a player, I 30 00:01:22,136 --> 00:01:25,336 Speaker 3: mean he was the true definition of professionalism. He'd come in, 31 00:01:25,416 --> 00:01:28,536 Speaker 3: he'd be prepared, he'd work hard in practice. He had 32 00:01:28,856 --> 00:01:31,536 Speaker 3: a great motivational voice for that defense. You saw him 33 00:01:31,536 --> 00:01:34,496 Speaker 3: always communicating, doing all those things. So I just always 34 00:01:34,536 --> 00:01:36,576 Speaker 3: had the utmost of respect for him and loved him 35 00:01:36,576 --> 00:01:37,016 Speaker 3: as a guy. 36 00:01:38,096 --> 00:01:42,215 Speaker 1: Both of you guys have baller kid kids, athlete kids. 37 00:01:42,696 --> 00:01:45,936 Speaker 3: I mean, they better be or they're not. They're getting 38 00:01:45,976 --> 00:01:48,536 Speaker 3: water in their cereal. Don't come home with a loss. 39 00:01:48,776 --> 00:01:51,416 Speaker 1: Is that a thing? Water in cereal as a punishment? No, 40 00:01:51,456 --> 00:01:53,496 Speaker 1: I've never heard that. If you just came up with that, 41 00:01:53,496 --> 00:01:53,976 Speaker 1: that's nice. 42 00:01:54,696 --> 00:01:56,776 Speaker 3: I did hear somebody say that one time, and I 43 00:01:56,816 --> 00:01:58,216 Speaker 3: was like, that's actually pretty good. 44 00:01:58,576 --> 00:02:01,096 Speaker 2: Yeah, he should have taken credit for it. I came 45 00:02:01,176 --> 00:02:01,576 Speaker 2: up with it. 46 00:02:01,936 --> 00:02:04,496 Speaker 1: Drafted in the third round, went to Ruggers, won two Super 47 00:02:04,536 --> 00:02:08,976 Speaker 1: Bowls all NFL rookies, and interceptions with five and twenty thirteen. 48 00:02:09,536 --> 00:02:10,736 Speaker 2: Yeah. Super great guy. 49 00:02:11,175 --> 00:02:13,856 Speaker 1: And if you go onto YouTube you can look for 50 00:02:14,336 --> 00:02:16,656 Speaker 1: an episode we did at his house. I got to 51 00:02:16,696 --> 00:02:18,336 Speaker 1: know loadan a little bit because he was back here 52 00:02:18,376 --> 00:02:19,696 Speaker 1: doing some stuff and he came into the show and 53 00:02:19,696 --> 00:02:20,536 Speaker 1: we talk about all this. 54 00:02:20,896 --> 00:02:24,895 Speaker 2: But we went to his house and uh, he's such 55 00:02:24,896 --> 00:02:25,496 Speaker 2: an athlete. 56 00:02:26,016 --> 00:02:28,136 Speaker 1: Oh, he's a freaking We've played pickleball though, and I 57 00:02:28,176 --> 00:02:30,416 Speaker 1: would go back and replay him because we played pickleball. 58 00:02:30,416 --> 00:02:32,256 Speaker 1: It was super windy on his court. 59 00:02:32,336 --> 00:02:34,136 Speaker 2: Oh are you making excuses? Did he beat you? 60 00:02:34,856 --> 00:02:38,896 Speaker 1: I wasn't in my pickleball game yet. I hadn't really focused. 61 00:02:38,936 --> 00:02:41,136 Speaker 1: He has a court. I hadn't really started to be 62 00:02:41,136 --> 00:02:43,816 Speaker 1: the player that I am now, right, so you've evolved. 63 00:02:44,976 --> 00:02:48,416 Speaker 1: It would be like playing defense against you in high 64 00:02:48,416 --> 00:02:50,736 Speaker 1: school and claiming that you were way better than Matt Castle. 65 00:02:50,976 --> 00:02:52,696 Speaker 1: You didn't get to who you were. That's fair. 66 00:02:52,816 --> 00:02:53,416 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. 67 00:02:53,456 --> 00:02:57,456 Speaker 1: So he played high school me. Now I'm Matt Castle. 68 00:02:57,696 --> 00:02:59,496 Speaker 2: So you would go out there? You think if you 69 00:02:59,536 --> 00:03:01,536 Speaker 2: went back, I think I would take head to head, Yeah, 70 00:03:01,496 --> 00:03:03,736 Speaker 2: and take him down. Yeah, I feel pretty. I mean 71 00:03:03,776 --> 00:03:04,936 Speaker 2: I kind of want to watch that. I mean we 72 00:03:04,936 --> 00:03:05,336 Speaker 2: set this up. 73 00:03:05,416 --> 00:03:10,016 Speaker 1: Well, I'm still but I'll be back soon. Anyway. 74 00:03:10,056 --> 00:03:10,776 Speaker 2: We love him, and. 75 00:03:10,776 --> 00:03:15,096 Speaker 1: Let's go over to him house. It's like I've watched 76 00:03:15,176 --> 00:03:17,416 Speaker 1: him turn into a butterfly. He was a he's a 77 00:03:17,456 --> 00:03:19,736 Speaker 1: little caterpillar when I met him in the in the 78 00:03:19,736 --> 00:03:21,376 Speaker 1: world of broadcasts, and he said, I'm going to be 79 00:03:21,416 --> 00:03:23,976 Speaker 1: somebody someday, and I've watched him be somebody. He's now 80 00:03:24,016 --> 00:03:26,536 Speaker 1: an alms for CBS and he's also the co founder 81 00:03:26,576 --> 00:03:29,936 Speaker 1: of Ryan Animal Rescue Foundation, which supports shelters and rescues 82 00:03:29,976 --> 00:03:33,576 Speaker 1: through funding, education, and adoption focused initiatives. If you want 83 00:03:33,576 --> 00:03:36,336 Speaker 1: more information about that, r a r F dot org 84 00:03:36,416 --> 00:03:37,816 Speaker 1: here he is Logan, Ryan Logan. 85 00:03:37,856 --> 00:03:39,576 Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? What's up? Guys? 86 00:03:40,096 --> 00:03:41,856 Speaker 1: You know, the first time we met, it was you going, 87 00:03:41,976 --> 00:03:43,816 Speaker 1: I think I'm retired and I think I'm going to 88 00:03:43,896 --> 00:03:45,456 Speaker 1: try to do broadcast, and. 89 00:03:45,376 --> 00:03:48,576 Speaker 2: Now you're killing it. Look at look at this. It's awesome. 90 00:03:48,656 --> 00:03:49,016 Speaker 1: Dude. 91 00:03:49,256 --> 00:03:51,216 Speaker 4: I don't know about killing and I'm trying, but I 92 00:03:51,416 --> 00:03:54,256 Speaker 4: would say, you put me on, Bobby. I hopped on 93 00:03:54,296 --> 00:03:56,736 Speaker 4: your show a few years ago, and you told me, 94 00:03:57,096 --> 00:04:00,456 Speaker 4: you know, I would be okay at this one day, 95 00:04:00,976 --> 00:04:03,376 Speaker 4: and you're you're you know, you were taking pj's to 96 00:04:03,416 --> 00:04:07,456 Speaker 4: your comedy shows and whatnot one day. That's what I 97 00:04:07,496 --> 00:04:09,016 Speaker 4: want to be when I grow up. I want to 98 00:04:09,056 --> 00:04:09,776 Speaker 4: be Bobby Bones. 99 00:04:09,856 --> 00:04:11,496 Speaker 2: So how did you guys meet? You guys did a 100 00:04:11,536 --> 00:04:12,096 Speaker 2: show together. 101 00:04:12,536 --> 00:04:13,256 Speaker 1: He was in Nashville. 102 00:04:13,296 --> 00:04:13,576 Speaker 4: He came. 103 00:04:13,776 --> 00:04:15,216 Speaker 1: He just came by the show. We hung out, but 104 00:04:15,256 --> 00:04:17,256 Speaker 1: then we stayed in touch and he's done the show 105 00:04:17,296 --> 00:04:18,895 Speaker 1: and I went to his house and worked out with them. 106 00:04:18,976 --> 00:04:21,616 Speaker 2: He wants to like guys worked out. 107 00:04:23,056 --> 00:04:25,056 Speaker 4: Man. He came to the barn. People know about the 108 00:04:25,655 --> 00:04:28,416 Speaker 4: Ryan family ranch we have here in Tampa, and Bobby 109 00:04:28,416 --> 00:04:30,415 Speaker 4: came to the barn. He came to the weight room. 110 00:04:31,096 --> 00:04:33,096 Speaker 4: We did some one on one routes out there that 111 00:04:35,496 --> 00:04:37,255 Speaker 4: you can imagine how that went down. I think I 112 00:04:37,296 --> 00:04:38,496 Speaker 4: was just quarterbacking though. 113 00:04:38,376 --> 00:04:40,775 Speaker 1: Yeah you're quarterback and given us tips. 114 00:04:40,936 --> 00:04:41,656 Speaker 2: Yeah. 115 00:04:41,736 --> 00:04:43,496 Speaker 1: I want to say this before we talk about ball, 116 00:04:43,736 --> 00:04:45,936 Speaker 1: is that is there a single seven year old that 117 00:04:45,976 --> 00:04:49,416 Speaker 1: can touch your kid on the playing soccer. I watched 118 00:04:49,455 --> 00:04:51,695 Speaker 1: his whole highlight tape last night. Watch the whole thing. 119 00:04:52,176 --> 00:04:54,096 Speaker 1: Is he heads and shoulders above everybody. 120 00:04:54,496 --> 00:04:56,895 Speaker 4: We don't know, right, I don't know all the seven 121 00:04:56,976 --> 00:04:59,856 Speaker 4: year old's ranked. I think there's people that like literally 122 00:04:59,895 --> 00:05:03,176 Speaker 4: ranked seven year old teams. That's that's pretty sad. But 123 00:05:03,775 --> 00:05:06,015 Speaker 4: we did take him out to LA because we heard 124 00:05:06,215 --> 00:05:09,015 Speaker 4: that's where the best seven year olds are and my 125 00:05:09,135 --> 00:05:11,376 Speaker 4: son doesn't really play his age, usually plays up with eight, 126 00:05:11,496 --> 00:05:13,616 Speaker 4: nine and ten year olds. But he had a chance 127 00:05:13,616 --> 00:05:16,056 Speaker 4: to go with the top seven year olds they say 128 00:05:16,616 --> 00:05:19,496 Speaker 4: in LA and he was head and shoulders better than them. 129 00:05:19,575 --> 00:05:22,176 Speaker 4: So he did his thing. I'm happy for him. He 130 00:05:22,255 --> 00:05:24,775 Speaker 4: works really hard and a lot of people think he's 131 00:05:24,775 --> 00:05:26,616 Speaker 4: just good because he's my son. I'm not that good 132 00:05:26,616 --> 00:05:30,415 Speaker 4: at soccer two different sports, and he works really hard 133 00:05:30,455 --> 00:05:32,335 Speaker 4: at it and he has big dreams to play for 134 00:05:32,376 --> 00:05:35,376 Speaker 4: Team USA one day. So Matt as you know, I 135 00:05:35,416 --> 00:05:37,496 Speaker 4: know you got a bunch of those kiddos. Yeah, yeah, 136 00:05:37,616 --> 00:05:39,255 Speaker 4: none of them are ranked right now either. 137 00:05:39,736 --> 00:05:41,335 Speaker 3: I'm not taking my kids out of state to go 138 00:05:41,335 --> 00:05:42,815 Speaker 3: get ranked though, I promise you that. 139 00:05:42,936 --> 00:05:44,056 Speaker 2: But yeah, we got a bunch of it. 140 00:05:44,215 --> 00:05:46,056 Speaker 4: And we just put up to see what the competition 141 00:05:46,215 --> 00:05:49,856 Speaker 4: was like. He went did his thing, So it's cool, 142 00:05:49,895 --> 00:05:52,695 Speaker 4: and you know he's you learn a lot from being 143 00:05:52,736 --> 00:05:56,135 Speaker 4: an athlete, and he knows, he knows, he's learning what 144 00:05:56,176 --> 00:05:58,815 Speaker 4: that's like. And if you want your dreams, I'm gonna 145 00:05:58,815 --> 00:06:00,535 Speaker 4: support it, but I'm gonna show you what it takes 146 00:06:00,536 --> 00:06:01,895 Speaker 4: to be those things, which he knows a lot of 147 00:06:01,895 --> 00:06:02,296 Speaker 4: hard work. 148 00:06:02,616 --> 00:06:04,296 Speaker 3: You know now that you're in media and come over 149 00:06:04,335 --> 00:06:06,496 Speaker 3: to the dark side a little bit. But what's been 150 00:06:06,536 --> 00:06:10,455 Speaker 3: the most rewarding part of being able to explain the 151 00:06:10,496 --> 00:06:13,015 Speaker 3: game through your eyes now that you're in the media. 152 00:06:13,416 --> 00:06:15,176 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's it right there, right I 153 00:06:15,255 --> 00:06:17,376 Speaker 4: just try to be a bridge, I guess, from the 154 00:06:17,416 --> 00:06:22,135 Speaker 4: players to maybe some guys in media that haven't been 155 00:06:22,176 --> 00:06:23,616 Speaker 4: around the game in a long time. I think the 156 00:06:23,655 --> 00:06:26,496 Speaker 4: game has changed, Matt, as you know, a lot of 157 00:06:26,496 --> 00:06:29,176 Speaker 4: offense has changed, a lot of defense I've changed, and 158 00:06:29,335 --> 00:06:31,776 Speaker 4: being recently retired, like from two seasons ago, I'm able 159 00:06:31,775 --> 00:06:34,975 Speaker 4: to kind of tell that story and you know, fortunate 160 00:06:35,015 --> 00:06:37,056 Speaker 4: to be able to call Myles Garrett, yeah, you know, 161 00:06:37,255 --> 00:06:40,056 Speaker 4: Sack there the other day and explain what that's like. 162 00:06:40,135 --> 00:06:41,615 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what that's like as a player, 163 00:06:41,616 --> 00:06:44,135 Speaker 4: but the best I could, I think was a really 164 00:06:44,176 --> 00:06:46,016 Speaker 4: cool moment in my media career to be able to 165 00:06:46,096 --> 00:06:49,176 Speaker 4: be on that call for a historic call like that. 166 00:06:49,655 --> 00:06:51,616 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that specifically, since you brought that up. 167 00:06:52,135 --> 00:06:54,176 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor after the game, a little upset that they 168 00:06:54,176 --> 00:06:56,056 Speaker 1: stopped the game, although I didn't feel like it was 169 00:06:56,695 --> 00:07:00,095 Speaker 1: like a Lebron type stop where they stop and throw confetti. 170 00:07:00,176 --> 00:07:02,096 Speaker 1: It was quick, and then they celebrate on the sideline. 171 00:07:02,255 --> 00:07:04,896 Speaker 1: Did you feel like that stoppage because it was a 172 00:07:04,976 --> 00:07:06,895 Speaker 1: very pivo part of the game, did you feel like 173 00:07:06,936 --> 00:07:07,936 Speaker 1: that was too much? Then? 174 00:07:08,455 --> 00:07:10,935 Speaker 4: I don't know what Zacha was told by the refs. 175 00:07:10,976 --> 00:07:13,896 Speaker 4: We were told from CBS, from the production that if 176 00:07:13,936 --> 00:07:15,616 Speaker 4: Miles were to get the sack early in the game 177 00:07:15,696 --> 00:07:17,376 Speaker 4: or in the first half, they would they would stop 178 00:07:17,416 --> 00:07:20,096 Speaker 4: the game, but if the game was competitive or down 179 00:07:20,136 --> 00:07:23,055 Speaker 4: the stretch, they wouldn't. That's what we were told because 180 00:07:23,056 --> 00:07:25,655 Speaker 4: we have to know how much time to talk about it, 181 00:07:25,736 --> 00:07:28,975 Speaker 4: replay it. That was in the fourth quarter of a 182 00:07:29,096 --> 00:07:32,736 Speaker 4: one score game, and you know, I don't know if 183 00:07:32,776 --> 00:07:35,256 Speaker 4: the Bengals were expecting the Browns have to call time out, 184 00:07:35,696 --> 00:07:37,736 Speaker 4: use a timeout to have it. But when it happened, 185 00:07:38,576 --> 00:07:43,295 Speaker 4: the Bengals were in tempo and the Browns all rushed 186 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:45,656 Speaker 4: the field, so they all all the I mean, there's 187 00:07:45,696 --> 00:07:47,856 Speaker 4: not twelve men on the field, there's thirty seven men 188 00:07:47,896 --> 00:07:51,176 Speaker 4: in the field, right, and the Bengals are lined up like, hey, 189 00:07:51,256 --> 00:07:53,816 Speaker 4: like we're in tempo, We're trying to keep the tempo going. 190 00:07:53,856 --> 00:07:55,535 Speaker 4: So they felt like it really messed up their flow. 191 00:07:56,256 --> 00:08:00,816 Speaker 4: But that's such a historical, historical play and the game 192 00:08:00,896 --> 00:08:03,735 Speaker 4: had no meaning other than draft order and whatnot. So 193 00:08:03,816 --> 00:08:06,816 Speaker 4: I think it's a very unique, unique situation. But I 194 00:08:06,856 --> 00:08:08,896 Speaker 4: see both sides. I see the Bengal side of it 195 00:08:08,936 --> 00:08:11,295 Speaker 4: because they weren't told that that was going to happen. 196 00:08:11,655 --> 00:08:13,696 Speaker 4: And I see the refs the NFL say hey, man, 197 00:08:13,776 --> 00:08:17,056 Speaker 4: like we got to honor this, So there was it 198 00:08:17,096 --> 00:08:20,176 Speaker 4: was not clearly explained. We were told something differently on 199 00:08:20,256 --> 00:08:21,615 Speaker 4: TV that didn't play out. 200 00:08:21,736 --> 00:08:24,056 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I agree with you. It wasn't for a 201 00:08:24,096 --> 00:08:24,896 Speaker 2: division title. 202 00:08:25,215 --> 00:08:28,456 Speaker 3: This is a record that's been standing for what twenty years, 203 00:08:28,456 --> 00:08:32,256 Speaker 3: and Miles Garrett just did something that was extraordinary. I 204 00:08:32,296 --> 00:08:33,936 Speaker 3: think that the game needed to be stopped at that 205 00:08:33,936 --> 00:08:36,016 Speaker 3: point just to recognize the moment. 206 00:08:36,456 --> 00:08:40,616 Speaker 4: True, I definitely feel like that moment, you know, needed 207 00:08:40,655 --> 00:08:42,816 Speaker 4: to happen. But on Zactaeil's defense, he don't know if 208 00:08:42,816 --> 00:08:45,416 Speaker 4: he's getting fired. Maybe he does or doesn't. You don't 209 00:08:45,415 --> 00:08:47,056 Speaker 4: know if these last games matter in terms of your 210 00:08:47,136 --> 00:08:49,856 Speaker 4: job security and whatnot, and you want to win the 211 00:08:49,896 --> 00:08:52,256 Speaker 4: game as well. I think the Browns should have been 212 00:08:52,336 --> 00:08:54,415 Speaker 4: used to time out. Okay, stop the game. A call 213 00:08:54,496 --> 00:08:57,256 Speaker 4: time out for the Browns to give Mile Garrett his moment, 214 00:08:57,576 --> 00:09:00,055 Speaker 4: So I feel like that's what it is called time 215 00:09:00,096 --> 00:09:02,576 Speaker 4: out for that moment. But regardless, the game should have 216 00:09:02,576 --> 00:09:06,976 Speaker 4: been stopped. And I'm happy for Miles. He's really deserving. 217 00:09:06,976 --> 00:09:09,496 Speaker 4: When you get to know the guy, he's obviously a 218 00:09:09,496 --> 00:09:12,016 Speaker 4: freak of nature, but he works really hard at it 219 00:09:12,216 --> 00:09:14,296 Speaker 4: and he's a historian of the game. He's a really good, 220 00:09:14,576 --> 00:09:16,936 Speaker 4: good person, So I think he's deserving. 221 00:09:17,376 --> 00:09:20,055 Speaker 1: You played for Vrabel as he was coaching in a 222 00:09:20,055 --> 00:09:22,776 Speaker 1: playoff game. I believe what what does he say to 223 00:09:22,816 --> 00:09:24,576 Speaker 1: you guys, and what does he say to his team 224 00:09:24,576 --> 00:09:25,176 Speaker 1: in New England? 225 00:09:25,175 --> 00:09:26,616 Speaker 2: Can you give me a little background in that? 226 00:09:27,136 --> 00:09:30,655 Speaker 4: Well? I think Rabel like the playoffs aren't out of reach. 227 00:09:30,776 --> 00:09:32,576 Speaker 4: When Mike Raile was your coach, he's making that a 228 00:09:32,616 --> 00:09:35,655 Speaker 4: true possibility. Similar in New England, Matt, where you know 229 00:09:35,696 --> 00:09:37,695 Speaker 4: the season going the start traft for Thanksgiving, we got 230 00:09:37,736 --> 00:09:40,335 Speaker 4: to still getting better and you know, New England won 231 00:09:40,376 --> 00:09:42,095 Speaker 4: a lot of games this year, probably more than a 232 00:09:42,376 --> 00:09:45,256 Speaker 4: maybe some of these players thought, but Mike, you know, 233 00:09:45,336 --> 00:09:48,295 Speaker 4: always says like I'm going to coach the wins as 234 00:09:48,295 --> 00:09:49,976 Speaker 4: hard as I coach the loss, so it doesn't catch 235 00:09:50,055 --> 00:09:52,256 Speaker 4: up to us. And I think that's why the Patriots 236 00:09:52,295 --> 00:09:55,936 Speaker 4: haven't been caught up on because although they're succeeding and 237 00:09:55,976 --> 00:09:58,336 Speaker 4: people aren't expecting it, they're expecting it. And they're also 238 00:09:58,336 --> 00:10:02,856 Speaker 4: getting coach hard after their wins, which prepare you for this. 239 00:10:03,016 --> 00:10:05,455 Speaker 4: So I think he takes a game by game and 240 00:10:05,496 --> 00:10:07,655 Speaker 4: he makes you believe, like, Yo, we win the next game. 241 00:10:08,136 --> 00:10:09,976 Speaker 4: Oh man, we're in a divisional round. Oh we're a 242 00:10:10,016 --> 00:10:11,736 Speaker 4: game away from the super Bowl. Who would have thought 243 00:10:12,136 --> 00:10:15,336 Speaker 4: Mike Rabel Troy believes he can coach to win every 244 00:10:15,336 --> 00:10:17,816 Speaker 4: single game. And he's literally good enough to give his 245 00:10:17,856 --> 00:10:19,655 Speaker 4: team a chance to win every single game just by 246 00:10:19,696 --> 00:10:22,136 Speaker 4: coaching alone, because he's as good as any coach. 247 00:10:22,175 --> 00:10:22,776 Speaker 2: I played. 248 00:10:37,736 --> 00:10:39,896 Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about that mentality because a lot 249 00:10:39,896 --> 00:10:43,016 Speaker 3: of people don't understand how they hold you accountable. And 250 00:10:43,055 --> 00:10:45,416 Speaker 3: like the New England system that we grew up in 251 00:10:45,616 --> 00:10:48,856 Speaker 3: and now Mike Vrabel and what that exactly means, because 252 00:10:48,856 --> 00:10:53,655 Speaker 3: I feel like it almost was harder during wins versus losses. 253 00:10:54,175 --> 00:10:56,376 Speaker 4: Yeah, so if you lost a game in New England, 254 00:10:57,055 --> 00:11:01,295 Speaker 4: it's almost like it caught up to us. Right, these 255 00:11:01,295 --> 00:11:03,776 Speaker 4: habits of not closing out games, right, say we're up 256 00:11:03,776 --> 00:11:07,055 Speaker 4: by three touchdowns, you're on defense and the coaches say, hey, 257 00:11:07,096 --> 00:11:08,976 Speaker 4: we're up three touchdowns, but don't let your guard down. 258 00:11:09,016 --> 00:11:12,056 Speaker 4: Close the game out and you let the team the 259 00:11:12,096 --> 00:11:14,856 Speaker 4: other team score a meaningless touchdown and you win by 260 00:11:15,456 --> 00:11:17,575 Speaker 4: fourteen instead of twenty one. Well, then when you're in 261 00:11:17,616 --> 00:11:21,176 Speaker 4: a tight game and they score that meaningful touchdown, it's like, 262 00:11:21,216 --> 00:11:23,575 Speaker 4: we've told you, guys for three weeks. And that's how 263 00:11:23,616 --> 00:11:25,736 Speaker 4: Mike Rabel is like, you never know when that mistake 264 00:11:25,776 --> 00:11:28,896 Speaker 4: is gonna cost us. You fumble when you're up, you're like, 265 00:11:28,896 --> 00:11:31,296 Speaker 4: oh whatever, who cares. But then you fumble in the 266 00:11:31,295 --> 00:11:33,496 Speaker 4: final two minutes of a game, right, So he's he's 267 00:11:33,576 --> 00:11:37,736 Speaker 4: coaching in the wins equally as hard. So when you lose, 268 00:11:37,776 --> 00:11:40,176 Speaker 4: it's almost like, see, this is a habit that we 269 00:11:40,295 --> 00:11:42,056 Speaker 4: let go, and a lot of other teams are Some 270 00:11:42,175 --> 00:11:44,935 Speaker 4: teams just coach the result. Oh we won, we're not 271 00:11:45,055 --> 00:11:46,816 Speaker 4: going to watch the tape. Oh we won, the fumble 272 00:11:46,856 --> 00:11:50,336 Speaker 4: doesn't matter. He's kind of coaching the habits the same, 273 00:11:50,616 --> 00:11:53,055 Speaker 4: if not harder, in the wins, so that when you're 274 00:11:53,055 --> 00:11:55,256 Speaker 4: in the tight game, when you're in the playoffs, you're 275 00:11:55,256 --> 00:11:58,216 Speaker 4: not making these careless mistakes that end up costing you 276 00:11:58,216 --> 00:12:00,175 Speaker 4: your season. So I just think he coaches ahead of it. 277 00:12:00,496 --> 00:12:03,335 Speaker 4: He doesn't coach a result. He coaches the habits. And 278 00:12:03,336 --> 00:12:04,695 Speaker 4: that's something you got to get used to as a 279 00:12:04,696 --> 00:12:08,456 Speaker 4: player because you're always judge on your results. You won 280 00:12:08,496 --> 00:12:10,496 Speaker 4: the game, everybody's great, you lost the game, You're the 281 00:12:10,496 --> 00:12:12,655 Speaker 4: worst player in the world. I think rabel Stay is 282 00:12:12,696 --> 00:12:15,056 Speaker 4: much more level headed than that, and that's what you 283 00:12:15,175 --> 00:12:19,936 Speaker 4: need in the playoffs because there's that much pressure in 284 00:12:19,935 --> 00:12:21,856 Speaker 4: those moments of you know, your season. 285 00:12:21,655 --> 00:12:26,216 Speaker 1: Ending, does it amplify how much does it amplify as 286 00:12:26,256 --> 00:12:28,935 Speaker 1: you're going into week one of the playoffs from regular 287 00:12:28,976 --> 00:12:31,735 Speaker 1: season to you know, starting the tournament. 288 00:12:32,175 --> 00:12:34,256 Speaker 4: It's March madness. It's a truly whole new season. Like 289 00:12:34,295 --> 00:12:36,976 Speaker 4: it literally does not matter what you did. Obviously, seeding matters, 290 00:12:37,696 --> 00:12:40,896 Speaker 4: but you know in the season you're gonna pull from 291 00:12:40,935 --> 00:12:43,056 Speaker 4: the players you know that made plays and you can trust, 292 00:12:43,136 --> 00:12:45,496 Speaker 4: Like who can I trust to win the game? I 293 00:12:45,535 --> 00:12:48,776 Speaker 4: think you got to understand that both coaching staffs are 294 00:12:48,776 --> 00:12:51,215 Speaker 4: normally good. You know, that coach on the other side 295 00:12:51,256 --> 00:12:54,055 Speaker 4: had a really good year two that quarterback on the 296 00:12:54,096 --> 00:12:56,816 Speaker 4: other side had some comeback wins as well, So that 297 00:12:56,935 --> 00:12:59,896 Speaker 4: team's used to winning as well, you're not. Sometimes in 298 00:12:59,935 --> 00:13:02,535 Speaker 4: the NFL you play teams that once they start doing bad, 299 00:13:02,535 --> 00:13:05,856 Speaker 4: they can't bounce back, where just because you're up against 300 00:13:05,856 --> 00:13:07,656 Speaker 4: the Chiefs doesn't mean they're not going to come back, right, 301 00:13:07,696 --> 00:13:11,456 Speaker 4: So everything's amplified because the person on the other side 302 00:13:11,456 --> 00:13:13,816 Speaker 4: of the ball is equally as good as you, And 303 00:13:13,935 --> 00:13:15,656 Speaker 4: I think it's going to come down to little things 304 00:13:15,896 --> 00:13:18,496 Speaker 4: and those practice habits and all that stuff pays off. 305 00:13:18,535 --> 00:13:21,136 Speaker 4: But it's completely a whole new season, Bobby, I think 306 00:13:21,976 --> 00:13:24,016 Speaker 4: with the NFL being as wide open as it is 307 00:13:24,055 --> 00:13:26,176 Speaker 4: this year, not having the big dog quarterbacks in the race, 308 00:13:26,216 --> 00:13:30,776 Speaker 4: not having Mahomes and Burrow and Lamar Jackson's completely wide 309 00:13:30,776 --> 00:13:33,616 Speaker 4: open and you're gonna have the most upsets or I 310 00:13:33,655 --> 00:13:36,575 Speaker 4: would say lower seeds winning games in my opinion, that 311 00:13:36,616 --> 00:13:38,256 Speaker 4: we've had in the playoffs in a long time. 312 00:13:38,456 --> 00:13:40,776 Speaker 3: Well, look at this matchup that's coming up between the 313 00:13:40,816 --> 00:13:43,096 Speaker 3: Chargers and the Patriots. When you look at the Chargers 314 00:13:43,096 --> 00:13:46,136 Speaker 3: and Herbert, the explosive nature of it, what does the 315 00:13:46,256 --> 00:13:48,536 Speaker 3: Pats defense need to do. Is it contain him in 316 00:13:48,576 --> 00:13:52,056 Speaker 3: the pocket. Is it to limit explosives pressure? Like, what's 317 00:13:52,096 --> 00:13:54,415 Speaker 3: your key for the defensive unit for the Patriots to 318 00:13:54,456 --> 00:13:55,856 Speaker 3: slow down this Chargers offense. 319 00:13:56,415 --> 00:13:59,175 Speaker 4: I'm comfortable with this matchup. I really am for the Patriots. 320 00:13:59,256 --> 00:14:01,655 Speaker 4: I think the Patriots pull this off. They got to 321 00:14:01,736 --> 00:14:05,096 Speaker 4: limit the explosive plays. I look at the Chargers. Herbert's 322 00:14:05,096 --> 00:14:08,736 Speaker 4: been beat up. They obviously rested him, so you can 323 00:14:08,776 --> 00:14:10,695 Speaker 4: think he's gonna feel a little fresher. But their offensive 324 00:14:10,696 --> 00:14:13,056 Speaker 4: line has been decimated. They don't have their tackles and 325 00:14:13,055 --> 00:14:15,456 Speaker 4: that's been a huge part. So the Patriots don't have 326 00:14:16,216 --> 00:14:19,016 Speaker 4: elite edge rushers, but they have a really good team 327 00:14:19,096 --> 00:14:21,576 Speaker 4: pass rush, and I think against a banged up OH line, 328 00:14:21,616 --> 00:14:24,656 Speaker 4: that's gonna work really well. I look at their receivers. 329 00:14:24,656 --> 00:14:27,656 Speaker 4: They have Keenan Allen and Ladd McConkie, elite route runners, 330 00:14:27,696 --> 00:14:30,616 Speaker 4: but possession guys. And I look at the Patriots. They 331 00:14:30,616 --> 00:14:34,176 Speaker 4: have Carlton Davis and Christian Gonzalez. These guys stay square, 332 00:14:34,256 --> 00:14:36,416 Speaker 4: they put hands. They're not gonna create a lot of 333 00:14:36,456 --> 00:14:39,416 Speaker 4: separation against those corners. So I really like the Patriots 334 00:14:39,456 --> 00:14:42,335 Speaker 4: dbs matching up in this. I really like the d line, 335 00:14:42,896 --> 00:14:45,816 Speaker 4: so I feel as if defensively they match up really 336 00:14:45,856 --> 00:14:47,696 Speaker 4: well against the Chargers. Charge are gonna try to run 337 00:14:47,696 --> 00:14:48,816 Speaker 4: the ball, but as long as they don't let up 338 00:14:48,856 --> 00:14:50,896 Speaker 4: the big plays, I don't see how the Chargers put 339 00:14:50,936 --> 00:14:52,776 Speaker 4: up enough points on the other side of the ball. 340 00:14:53,376 --> 00:14:56,616 Speaker 4: Drake May so good against man end zone defense. The 341 00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:59,016 Speaker 4: Chargers live in zone defense. He's been so good all 342 00:14:59,096 --> 00:15:01,176 Speaker 4: year Drake May that is so I think he'll be 343 00:15:01,216 --> 00:15:04,136 Speaker 4: comfortable back there picking apart the zone defense. If the 344 00:15:04,216 --> 00:15:06,656 Speaker 4: Chargers run, and as long as they don't like turn 345 00:15:06,696 --> 00:15:10,336 Speaker 4: the ball over give up crazy flukey explosive plays. I 346 00:15:10,336 --> 00:15:13,696 Speaker 4: think the Patriots methodically run away from the Chargers. 347 00:15:14,176 --> 00:15:16,776 Speaker 1: The Bills and Jags are super interesting to me because 348 00:15:16,776 --> 00:15:20,016 Speaker 1: it's Josh Allen. Can he finally do it? Versus the Jags. 349 00:15:20,496 --> 00:15:22,856 Speaker 1: Nobody really expected them to be here, and they've developed 350 00:15:23,416 --> 00:15:25,336 Speaker 1: us against the world mentality. Did you ever play on 351 00:15:25,376 --> 00:15:27,936 Speaker 1: a team that was a we're not getting respect, us 352 00:15:27,976 --> 00:15:29,096 Speaker 1: against the world mentality. 353 00:15:29,416 --> 00:15:32,216 Speaker 4: That's literally the Tennessee Titans. I mean that's I left 354 00:15:32,216 --> 00:15:34,896 Speaker 4: the Patriots to the Titans in free agency and we 355 00:15:34,976 --> 00:15:37,776 Speaker 4: got Mike Rabel and Bobby you know, we end up 356 00:15:37,816 --> 00:15:39,536 Speaker 4: being like a sixth seed going on the run. We 357 00:15:39,576 --> 00:15:41,736 Speaker 4: beat We beat Tom Brady in his last game, which 358 00:15:41,776 --> 00:15:44,056 Speaker 4: is hard to do. We beat you know the fourteen 359 00:15:44,096 --> 00:15:47,016 Speaker 4: and two Baltimore Ravens that had MVP Lamar Jackson, and 360 00:15:47,496 --> 00:15:51,296 Speaker 4: we were literally called the hyenas. Like Tom Brady put 361 00:15:51,296 --> 00:15:55,536 Speaker 4: out a video before our first game, before the wildcard game, 362 00:15:56,216 --> 00:15:57,696 Speaker 4: al he was the king of the jungle and it 363 00:15:57,736 --> 00:16:00,256 Speaker 4: was like a lion and Rabel took the video put 364 00:16:00,296 --> 00:16:02,335 Speaker 4: it in our meeting and was like, well, if he's 365 00:16:02,336 --> 00:16:05,096 Speaker 4: a lion, we're a pack of hyenas. So he had 366 00:16:05,136 --> 00:16:07,976 Speaker 4: like a bloody hyena picture of of a hyena's hunting 367 00:16:07,976 --> 00:16:10,616 Speaker 4: a pack and they're like the disrespect. You know, they 368 00:16:10,616 --> 00:16:12,736 Speaker 4: live in the shadow realm in Lion King. I don't 369 00:16:12,736 --> 00:16:14,335 Speaker 4: know if you saw, they're not allowed to touch the light. 370 00:16:14,976 --> 00:16:18,736 Speaker 4: So we literally rode the whole hyena wave and where 371 00:16:18,776 --> 00:16:22,816 Speaker 4: you know a famous old tall tale a half away 372 00:16:23,096 --> 00:16:25,056 Speaker 4: from beating Patrick Mahomes and going to the super Bowl 373 00:16:25,096 --> 00:16:27,976 Speaker 4: as a six seed. So I literally felt that exact 374 00:16:28,056 --> 00:16:29,616 Speaker 4: thing that the Jags are feeling when I was on 375 00:16:29,656 --> 00:16:31,416 Speaker 4: a you know, Tennessee Titan in twenty nineteen. 376 00:16:31,776 --> 00:16:35,016 Speaker 3: You know, the more I watched Jacksonville too offensively, I 377 00:16:35,016 --> 00:16:37,376 Speaker 3: think Trevor Lawrence is playing the best football of his career. 378 00:16:37,416 --> 00:16:39,896 Speaker 3: He's got what thirty nine touchdowns, threw for over four 379 00:16:39,896 --> 00:16:43,536 Speaker 3: thousand yards. He's on a roll, but also defensively, they're 380 00:16:43,656 --> 00:16:46,816 Speaker 3: number one rush defense in the league, thirty one takeaways. 381 00:16:47,136 --> 00:16:50,776 Speaker 3: Do you feel like Jacksonville could absolutely run away with 382 00:16:50,776 --> 00:16:52,416 Speaker 3: this game or do you think this is going to 383 00:16:52,456 --> 00:16:55,136 Speaker 3: be a four quarter game all the way down to 384 00:16:55,136 --> 00:16:55,496 Speaker 3: the wire. 385 00:16:55,856 --> 00:16:57,736 Speaker 4: I think the first quarter is going to tell the story. 386 00:16:57,896 --> 00:17:01,336 Speaker 4: And the first game I called NFL game of my 387 00:17:01,416 --> 00:17:06,455 Speaker 4: career this year was Jacksonville at Sincy when Joe Barrow 388 00:17:06,496 --> 00:17:09,296 Speaker 4: got hurt and I sat down with the production meetings 389 00:17:09,336 --> 00:17:12,936 Speaker 4: behind the scenes, Liam Cohen's legit like Jacksonville found their 390 00:17:12,936 --> 00:17:15,056 Speaker 4: coach for a long time. He had so much you 391 00:17:15,056 --> 00:17:17,455 Speaker 4: talk about accountability, I mean he was on Trevor Lawrence 392 00:17:17,896 --> 00:17:20,255 Speaker 4: early in that game on the sideline, yelling at Trevor 393 00:17:20,296 --> 00:17:23,416 Speaker 4: Lawrence talk about how much untapped potential there was there. 394 00:17:23,455 --> 00:17:25,456 Speaker 4: He's you know, he comes from that RAMS system, Matt 395 00:17:25,455 --> 00:17:29,336 Speaker 4: where the running game is really complex and a lot 396 00:17:29,336 --> 00:17:31,215 Speaker 4: of checks in the line of scrimmage. He wanted to 397 00:17:31,215 --> 00:17:33,455 Speaker 4: get rid of Trevor Lawrence's wristband and make Trevor Lawrence 398 00:17:33,536 --> 00:17:35,936 Speaker 4: learn to plays and the and the checks. So I 399 00:17:35,975 --> 00:17:39,576 Speaker 4: felt like accountability was similar to Vabel on the defensive side. 400 00:17:39,616 --> 00:17:43,696 Speaker 4: Anthony Campanelli their DC coached me at Rutgers. Crazy Italian dude, 401 00:17:44,016 --> 00:17:47,856 Speaker 4: So Jersey Italians a get so he's fiery. They got 402 00:17:47,896 --> 00:17:50,336 Speaker 4: turnovers a lot this year. They have a really good 403 00:17:50,336 --> 00:17:53,176 Speaker 4: defensive team and they're gonna run the ball. They can 404 00:17:53,256 --> 00:17:56,176 Speaker 4: run the ball and the Bills. And if they can 405 00:17:56,215 --> 00:17:57,856 Speaker 4: run away from the Bills and run the ball and 406 00:17:57,936 --> 00:18:00,336 Speaker 4: keep Josh Allen on the bench, that's how they get 407 00:18:00,336 --> 00:18:02,656 Speaker 4: it done. I do think that the Bills are sleeping giant. 408 00:18:03,096 --> 00:18:04,535 Speaker 4: I don't think the Bills. I don't think it's the 409 00:18:04,536 --> 00:18:07,256 Speaker 4: best Bills seem Josh had, but he is the big 410 00:18:07,256 --> 00:18:09,735 Speaker 4: dog in the playoffs. And if Josh Allen doesn't get 411 00:18:09,776 --> 00:18:11,856 Speaker 4: it done this year, he's not going to have years 412 00:18:11,856 --> 00:18:13,616 Speaker 4: about Mahomes in it. He's not gonna have many years 413 00:18:13,616 --> 00:18:16,056 Speaker 4: about Burrow or Lamar Jackson. And this is the easiest 414 00:18:16,096 --> 00:18:20,455 Speaker 4: path for him. So I don't think Josh Allen's MVP 415 00:18:21,336 --> 00:18:22,696 Speaker 4: this year. But I think he's the best player in 416 00:18:22,735 --> 00:18:27,496 Speaker 4: football in terms of size, speed, arm, talent, running ability, 417 00:18:28,176 --> 00:18:30,856 Speaker 4: create creatability. I think he's the best player in football. 418 00:18:31,455 --> 00:18:34,376 Speaker 4: And I think that if the game is close. Josh 419 00:18:34,455 --> 00:18:36,535 Speaker 4: Allen's going to have too many possessions down the stretch 420 00:18:37,096 --> 00:18:40,015 Speaker 4: to be Josh Allen. So I think that the Bills 421 00:18:40,016 --> 00:18:43,016 Speaker 4: do get it done. But if Jacksonville gets up early 422 00:18:43,056 --> 00:18:44,656 Speaker 4: and is able to keep the ball away from with 423 00:18:44,656 --> 00:18:47,136 Speaker 4: that running game and at TN and all that, then 424 00:18:47,176 --> 00:18:48,656 Speaker 4: maybe don't give Josh Allen the chance. 425 00:18:49,576 --> 00:18:52,055 Speaker 1: We talked about the playoffs being amplified for everybody, but 426 00:18:52,096 --> 00:18:53,975 Speaker 1: also when it comes to a rivalry game in the 427 00:18:53,975 --> 00:18:57,735 Speaker 1: playoffs Packers and Bears, that's a rivalry game. They've played 428 00:18:57,735 --> 00:19:01,656 Speaker 1: two of the last three weeks. Anyway, whenever you're playing 429 00:19:01,656 --> 00:19:04,255 Speaker 1: a rival in the playoffs again, does it elevate even 430 00:19:04,336 --> 00:19:06,456 Speaker 1: higher or is the rivalry kind of off because it's 431 00:19:06,495 --> 00:19:07,775 Speaker 1: all playoffs. 432 00:19:09,215 --> 00:19:12,055 Speaker 4: It elevates higher. I mean, you don't like your division 433 00:19:12,056 --> 00:19:15,656 Speaker 4: teams as much. You see them so much. Both teams 434 00:19:15,735 --> 00:19:20,055 Speaker 4: are very in tune with what each other's calling and whatnot, 435 00:19:20,176 --> 00:19:22,656 Speaker 4: So strategy goes. Are they gonna do what they did 436 00:19:22,735 --> 00:19:25,656 Speaker 4: last time? Are they gonna try something different? You probably 437 00:19:25,696 --> 00:19:28,336 Speaker 4: can overthink that. You know, I know both those games 438 00:19:28,336 --> 00:19:31,055 Speaker 4: were thrillers, like one, you know, the Bears could have 439 00:19:31,056 --> 00:19:32,856 Speaker 4: won and the Packers get to pick the end the game. 440 00:19:33,176 --> 00:19:35,816 Speaker 4: The other one, the Packers could have won an onside 441 00:19:35,896 --> 00:19:38,376 Speaker 4: kick and the Bears win the game. So it's truly 442 00:19:38,416 --> 00:19:42,136 Speaker 4: a coin flip, I do think, and there's no Michael 443 00:19:42,176 --> 00:19:45,456 Speaker 4: Parsons in this one, but the Bears have been very 444 00:19:45,495 --> 00:19:48,736 Speaker 4: turnover based. A lot of turnovers have led to their wins. 445 00:19:48,776 --> 00:19:50,456 Speaker 4: When not able to get the turnovers, obviously they don't 446 00:19:50,455 --> 00:19:52,975 Speaker 4: win as much. And I just I'm gonna lean on 447 00:19:53,016 --> 00:19:56,055 Speaker 4: experience again and go with Jordan Love and Lafloor here. 448 00:19:56,096 --> 00:19:58,176 Speaker 4: And this might be an upset. This is an underseed. 449 00:19:58,176 --> 00:19:59,696 Speaker 4: I told you lower seeds are gonna win. I have 450 00:19:59,735 --> 00:20:01,656 Speaker 4: the Bills winning as a lower seed. I have the 451 00:20:01,696 --> 00:20:03,856 Speaker 4: Packers winning, but it's gonna come down to one of 452 00:20:03,856 --> 00:20:07,176 Speaker 4: those final plays. And I just think Lafloor and Jordan 453 00:20:07,256 --> 00:20:10,696 Speaker 4: Love have more time together. With that, I think the 454 00:20:10,735 --> 00:20:12,936 Speaker 4: future is bright. I think Chicago's had a great year. 455 00:20:13,256 --> 00:20:16,136 Speaker 4: I think they got a great head coach with Ben Johnson. 456 00:20:16,136 --> 00:20:18,535 Speaker 4: But I just think that Jeff Hathley's gonna be a 457 00:20:18,536 --> 00:20:19,975 Speaker 4: head coach next year, and I think he's gonna do 458 00:20:19,975 --> 00:20:23,416 Speaker 4: a defensive masterpiece here, and it's gonna be a tight 459 00:20:23,416 --> 00:20:25,656 Speaker 4: one down to stretch. But I'm gonna think Josh Jacobs 460 00:20:26,256 --> 00:20:28,176 Speaker 4: might be the best player in the game, and I 461 00:20:28,176 --> 00:20:30,295 Speaker 4: think he's gonna have a big game against the Bears. 462 00:20:30,176 --> 00:20:33,416 Speaker 3: Forty nine ers at the Eagles. I mean, I'm excited 463 00:20:33,416 --> 00:20:35,775 Speaker 3: for this game. But what's your thoughts on this one? 464 00:20:35,975 --> 00:20:38,775 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know I say this sometimes on CBS and 465 00:20:38,816 --> 00:20:41,896 Speaker 4: whatnot on my podcast that you know, football is not 466 00:20:41,936 --> 00:20:44,255 Speaker 4: as a twelve v twelve sport, not eleven be eleven. 467 00:20:44,296 --> 00:20:47,296 Speaker 4: It's your eleven plus you're a play caller, and it's 468 00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:50,815 Speaker 4: Robert Salah and the defense who's banged up versus the 469 00:20:50,856 --> 00:20:53,975 Speaker 4: Eagles eleven. But their play caller is not that great 470 00:20:54,536 --> 00:20:57,856 Speaker 4: offensively obviously this year they've had some woes. And then 471 00:20:57,975 --> 00:21:01,575 Speaker 4: obviously Vic Fangio versus Yle Shanahan is like Hall of 472 00:21:01,616 --> 00:21:05,855 Speaker 4: Fame play calling on both sides there. So look, if 473 00:21:05,856 --> 00:21:08,816 Speaker 4: the Niners won last week, then they're the one seed 474 00:21:08,816 --> 00:21:10,736 Speaker 4: and people might have called them Super Bowl favorite. Then 475 00:21:10,735 --> 00:21:12,295 Speaker 4: they lose the game and now they got to go 476 00:21:12,336 --> 00:21:14,056 Speaker 4: to the Philly on the road as an underdog. It's 477 00:21:14,056 --> 00:21:18,616 Speaker 4: crazy how the NFL works. Christian McCaffrey's Special OFFENSEI Player 478 00:21:18,616 --> 00:21:22,016 Speaker 4: of the Year Saquan I played with as well, really special. 479 00:21:23,256 --> 00:21:26,056 Speaker 4: I just feel like a little insider here. I was 480 00:21:26,096 --> 00:21:28,616 Speaker 4: at forty nine er in my last season. The forty 481 00:21:28,696 --> 00:21:31,015 Speaker 4: nine ers feel comfortable playing against Jalen Hurts. They truly 482 00:21:31,056 --> 00:21:34,736 Speaker 4: have a game plan rush that I'm not gonna tip 483 00:21:34,776 --> 00:21:38,336 Speaker 4: too much, but you'll see where they feel comfortable playing 484 00:21:38,336 --> 00:21:40,856 Speaker 4: against Jalen Hurts. They've always felt comfortable playing the Eagles. 485 00:21:40,856 --> 00:21:43,536 Speaker 4: They felt as if if Perry doesn't get hurt. They 486 00:21:43,536 --> 00:21:45,136 Speaker 4: went at MBC championship a couple of years ago, and 487 00:21:45,136 --> 00:21:47,776 Speaker 4: obviously that's a big if, and who knows. So I'm 488 00:21:47,776 --> 00:21:50,056 Speaker 4: gonna go with the Niners and the coaching I truly do. 489 00:21:50,096 --> 00:21:51,936 Speaker 4: I think that's a big upset. But this is true. 490 00:21:51,975 --> 00:21:53,896 Speaker 4: Fifty to fifty, I could see why the Eagles win it. 491 00:21:53,936 --> 00:21:57,376 Speaker 4: They're healthier. I don't think Sirianni resting his starters were smart. 492 00:21:57,376 --> 00:22:00,056 Speaker 4: I think that's gonna bite them. I think the inconsistently 493 00:22:00,096 --> 00:22:03,215 Speaker 4: on play calling all year from the Eagles. I think 494 00:22:04,856 --> 00:22:07,735 Speaker 4: they lose this game. It's not good for Siriani. So 495 00:22:07,776 --> 00:22:09,896 Speaker 4: I think the decision to not play your guys when 496 00:22:09,936 --> 00:22:13,015 Speaker 4: you have something to gain has something where the Niners 497 00:22:13,016 --> 00:22:15,256 Speaker 4: had a lot to play for and loss. I think 498 00:22:15,296 --> 00:22:18,416 Speaker 4: the Niners can rally here and hopefully hold on to 499 00:22:18,536 --> 00:22:21,176 Speaker 4: Fred Wanner gets back. But I've been Niners pulling off 500 00:22:21,176 --> 00:22:22,736 Speaker 4: a close one and this is truly a coin flip. 501 00:22:22,776 --> 00:22:23,816 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the Niners. 502 00:22:24,296 --> 00:22:28,215 Speaker 1: MVP Stafford, Drake May, Drake. 503 00:22:27,975 --> 00:22:31,455 Speaker 4: May both great years. I can't believe Matt Stafford's never 504 00:22:31,495 --> 00:22:34,296 Speaker 4: had MVP vote or won MVP before. That's kind of surreal. 505 00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:37,575 Speaker 4: But I look at you know, Matt Stafford's throwing to 506 00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:40,376 Speaker 4: Devonte Haddam to Puka Nakula, which is as good as 507 00:22:40,376 --> 00:22:43,296 Speaker 4: it gets a lot of red zone touchdowns at PAD, 508 00:22:43,376 --> 00:22:45,855 Speaker 4: those stats can't knock. It's what Peyton Manning used to do. 509 00:22:46,576 --> 00:22:49,176 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go with Drake May to see that 510 00:22:49,256 --> 00:22:51,656 Speaker 4: Drake May has been as efficient as he has every 511 00:22:51,656 --> 00:22:53,855 Speaker 4: single game. No real bad games from Drake May. All 512 00:22:53,896 --> 00:22:58,096 Speaker 4: year fourteen wins with Mike Rabel fourteen wins and Matt 513 00:22:58,176 --> 00:23:00,816 Speaker 4: you can maybe talk to first year in a new system. Yeah, 514 00:23:00,856 --> 00:23:03,015 Speaker 4: how hard it is for a quarterback Stafford's been with 515 00:23:03,096 --> 00:23:05,336 Speaker 4: McVeigh for a few years. When you're throwing a Steph 516 00:23:05,576 --> 00:23:08,735 Speaker 4: Diggs and matc Collins as opposed to Pukinnakula, Devontey Adams, 517 00:23:08,776 --> 00:23:11,016 Speaker 4: No shade on anybody. I'm gonna go with Drake made 518 00:23:11,016 --> 00:23:14,176 Speaker 4: the consistency. How hard that is to do with this 519 00:23:14,296 --> 00:23:17,416 Speaker 4: roster the Patriots have. I think he's been more valuable 520 00:23:17,416 --> 00:23:17,896 Speaker 4: of a player. 521 00:23:18,455 --> 00:23:22,376 Speaker 1: Do you in season? How early do you get told 522 00:23:22,416 --> 00:23:23,215 Speaker 1: what game you're going to? 523 00:23:24,376 --> 00:23:28,975 Speaker 4: It's typically in season, maybe maybe three weeks out. You know, 524 00:23:29,056 --> 00:23:31,015 Speaker 4: obviously they're gonna send Romo and the A crew to 525 00:23:31,056 --> 00:23:33,696 Speaker 4: the top game. They know about three weeks out when 526 00:23:33,696 --> 00:23:37,296 Speaker 4: it gets toured, like week eighteen, and some games had 527 00:23:37,296 --> 00:23:39,696 Speaker 4: no meetings, some games had tons of meeting Miles Garrett's 528 00:23:39,696 --> 00:23:41,616 Speaker 4: game had a little bit of meaning because of that 529 00:23:41,735 --> 00:23:44,176 Speaker 4: sack record. That was like six days out. Like I 530 00:23:44,296 --> 00:23:47,936 Speaker 4: knew on Monday night Tuesday that my game was Cleveland, 531 00:23:48,416 --> 00:23:51,775 Speaker 4: and I was excited about that. Joe Burrow's angle, Cleveland's angle, 532 00:23:52,336 --> 00:23:56,656 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett, the future Shadore. Obviously it could have been 533 00:23:57,016 --> 00:23:59,896 Speaker 4: Kansas City Raiders, which don't have a lot, but that's 534 00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:02,776 Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey's last game. I came in Potentially, I came 535 00:24:02,816 --> 00:24:05,216 Speaker 4: in with Travis Kelce played him in college for four 536 00:24:05,616 --> 00:24:07,816 Speaker 4: so it's like, wow, how crazy is that I came 537 00:24:07,856 --> 00:24:09,176 Speaker 4: in with this guy in the draft, knew them and 538 00:24:09,576 --> 00:24:13,136 Speaker 4: covered him in college. And now I'm potentially calling Travis 539 00:24:13,215 --> 00:24:14,975 Speaker 4: Kelsey's last game of his Hall of Fame career. So 540 00:24:15,495 --> 00:24:17,896 Speaker 4: I try to find meeting and everything I'm calling. But 541 00:24:18,495 --> 00:24:20,576 Speaker 4: I think I got that assignment like six days before 542 00:24:20,576 --> 00:24:20,856 Speaker 4: the game. 543 00:24:36,656 --> 00:24:41,096 Speaker 3: Is your prep work for these games more film study 544 00:24:41,296 --> 00:24:43,295 Speaker 3: and interviews and stuff like that, more so than what 545 00:24:43,376 --> 00:24:44,815 Speaker 3: you ever went through when you played. 546 00:24:45,296 --> 00:24:48,055 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, if I don't know everyone, there's no like, 547 00:24:49,016 --> 00:24:50,775 Speaker 4: here's how you become an analyst, Here's how you prepare 548 00:24:50,816 --> 00:24:53,455 Speaker 4: for a game. I think everybody's different, Matt, But I 549 00:24:53,536 --> 00:24:57,416 Speaker 4: just kept my NFL prep work. So you know, I 550 00:24:57,536 --> 00:25:00,336 Speaker 4: watched the last three games of both teams, you know, 551 00:25:00,576 --> 00:25:05,176 Speaker 4: on Monday, and then you know, Tuesday, I start breaking 552 00:25:05,176 --> 00:25:08,816 Speaker 4: out side the ball. The problem is when I'm playing, 553 00:25:08,856 --> 00:25:11,736 Speaker 4: I just watch the other team's offense. Now that I'm 554 00:25:11,776 --> 00:25:13,776 Speaker 4: calling the game, I have to watch both teams offenses 555 00:25:13,816 --> 00:25:17,255 Speaker 4: and both team's defenses. So it's literally like double or 556 00:25:17,296 --> 00:25:20,096 Speaker 4: triple the amount of film because I'm just too young 557 00:25:20,096 --> 00:25:22,295 Speaker 4: and novice to not put in the work yet. Like 558 00:25:22,336 --> 00:25:24,376 Speaker 4: I haven't figured out how to like go wing it yet. 559 00:25:24,416 --> 00:25:28,016 Speaker 4: You know, maybe a show just off of the muscle. 560 00:25:28,735 --> 00:25:33,376 Speaker 4: I'm not comfortable yet to do that. So it is about, 561 00:25:33,495 --> 00:25:36,975 Speaker 4: you know, fifteen to twenty hours of watching film. The 562 00:25:37,376 --> 00:25:39,696 Speaker 4: good thing with me is I either played for or 563 00:25:39,696 --> 00:25:44,856 Speaker 4: against everybody, covered everybody still like Oh, I played against 564 00:25:44,896 --> 00:25:46,976 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett, I know how good Denzel Will. I played 565 00:25:46,975 --> 00:25:49,535 Speaker 4: against Joe Burrow, I covered Jamar Chase. So I have 566 00:25:49,656 --> 00:25:51,616 Speaker 4: a lot in my memory bank of what that's like 567 00:25:52,215 --> 00:25:54,256 Speaker 4: and I try to bring that on air. But it's 568 00:25:54,296 --> 00:25:56,975 Speaker 4: definitely double the amount of prep I did as a player. 569 00:25:58,056 --> 00:26:01,656 Speaker 4: Maybe I'll get more efficient when my contract goes up 570 00:26:01,656 --> 00:26:03,936 Speaker 4: money wise and guaranteed, and I'm a little more comfortable, 571 00:26:04,416 --> 00:26:07,096 Speaker 4: But right now I'm putting the those rookie hours, that 572 00:26:07,215 --> 00:26:08,176 Speaker 4: rookie season hours. 573 00:26:08,376 --> 00:26:10,535 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you one more question, and let's go 574 00:26:10,576 --> 00:26:12,775 Speaker 1: to college for a second. When you watch in the 575 00:26:12,816 --> 00:26:15,936 Speaker 1: past couple of days, specifically, it's the portal is open, 576 00:26:16,495 --> 00:26:19,656 Speaker 1: and yeah, the portal is janned. Everybody jumps in. Some 577 00:26:19,816 --> 00:26:22,495 Speaker 1: guys don't jump in until like today because they know 578 00:26:22,536 --> 00:26:25,975 Speaker 1: how much money is now being offered to them. What 579 00:26:26,016 --> 00:26:28,656 Speaker 1: do you think about the portal and nil as a whole. 580 00:26:29,296 --> 00:26:31,616 Speaker 4: That's a great question, you know, but obviously it's it's 581 00:26:31,616 --> 00:26:34,056 Speaker 4: good and bad, and you know, I think I don't 582 00:26:34,096 --> 00:26:36,616 Speaker 4: know how Matt feels, but we all support players getting 583 00:26:36,656 --> 00:26:38,936 Speaker 4: paid like we wish we had it. And people asked me, 584 00:26:39,656 --> 00:26:42,455 Speaker 4: would you have left Rutgers, you know, if the portals, 585 00:26:42,576 --> 00:26:45,575 Speaker 4: I would have transferred three times, you know, because the 586 00:26:45,656 --> 00:26:49,055 Speaker 4: money is so big, and that's stuff you can't just 587 00:26:49,336 --> 00:26:50,936 Speaker 4: when you come from not a lot of money. You 588 00:26:50,936 --> 00:26:53,295 Speaker 4: can't just say a million dollars isn't worth it or 589 00:26:53,455 --> 00:26:55,616 Speaker 4: two million isn't worth it. If you're an All American 590 00:26:55,616 --> 00:26:58,455 Speaker 4: player at a smaller school and I look at you know, 591 00:26:58,495 --> 00:27:01,216 Speaker 4: the top quarterbacks in college football, they all transferred last year, 592 00:27:01,536 --> 00:27:04,735 Speaker 4: and Mendoza made themself some money by transferring, So you 593 00:27:04,816 --> 00:27:07,616 Speaker 4: can't argue you the transfer. Do they have any control 594 00:27:07,776 --> 00:27:10,736 Speaker 4: of it? No, absolutely not. So obviously they need more control, 595 00:27:10,936 --> 00:27:13,855 Speaker 4: But I do. I do like the fact that talented 596 00:27:13,856 --> 00:27:16,376 Speaker 4: players are getting compensated for what they're what they're bringing. 597 00:27:16,455 --> 00:27:18,775 Speaker 4: I guarantee you the schools are still making good money 598 00:27:19,376 --> 00:27:21,976 Speaker 4: and they're not taking too much of the pie. It's 599 00:27:21,975 --> 00:27:24,616 Speaker 4: just a wild wild West. I'm sure there's agents taking advantage. 600 00:27:24,616 --> 00:27:26,416 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a lot of people still taking advantage 601 00:27:26,416 --> 00:27:29,255 Speaker 4: of these athletes that I don't know enough about, but 602 00:27:30,336 --> 00:27:31,735 Speaker 4: I am a fan of it. I don't like the 603 00:27:31,735 --> 00:27:33,696 Speaker 4: timing and all that stuff. I don't think anybody does. 604 00:27:34,495 --> 00:27:36,616 Speaker 4: But I'm okay with players getting paid. If if you 605 00:27:36,696 --> 00:27:38,336 Speaker 4: got that, you know, I know, if I was a 606 00:27:38,336 --> 00:27:42,295 Speaker 4: tennis player and I was fifteen, I know, if my 607 00:27:42,376 --> 00:27:44,416 Speaker 4: son can make money at thirteen playing soccer, you're gonna 608 00:27:44,416 --> 00:27:46,495 Speaker 4: make money at thirteen playing soccer. Like, I'm not gonna 609 00:27:46,495 --> 00:27:48,656 Speaker 4: be like, you don't need that, Like, no, if you're 610 00:27:48,656 --> 00:27:51,256 Speaker 4: gonna be if Nike's gonna pay you, then you're gonna 611 00:27:51,296 --> 00:27:54,616 Speaker 4: be a thirteen year old Nike soccer player. So I'm 612 00:27:54,616 --> 00:27:55,696 Speaker 4: not against that part of it. 613 00:27:55,816 --> 00:27:57,775 Speaker 3: The only issue I have with it right now is 614 00:27:57,816 --> 00:28:00,296 Speaker 3: now that they're they're putting out these social media eclips. 615 00:28:00,536 --> 00:28:04,936 Speaker 2: We just resigned so much resigning. 616 00:28:05,416 --> 00:28:07,575 Speaker 3: I was like, you already commit, committed to go to 617 00:28:07,616 --> 00:28:09,496 Speaker 3: school there, you played a whole season. What the hell 618 00:28:09,576 --> 00:28:11,975 Speaker 3: you talk about re signing. You're just going back to school. 619 00:28:11,975 --> 00:28:14,615 Speaker 3: You're just going back to class. Yeah, you're just not 620 00:28:14,696 --> 00:28:15,455 Speaker 3: going in the portal. 621 00:28:15,495 --> 00:28:15,936 Speaker 2: I'm back. 622 00:28:16,215 --> 00:28:18,736 Speaker 4: Can I ask you guys a question real quick? So 623 00:28:19,495 --> 00:28:25,055 Speaker 4: Dylan Rayola, right, he's obviously transferring. And I saw they 624 00:28:25,056 --> 00:28:28,816 Speaker 4: said Dylan Royola has loyalty problems, and this guy has 625 00:28:28,936 --> 00:28:31,455 Speaker 4: transferred every year since eighth grade. 626 00:28:31,696 --> 00:28:33,455 Speaker 2: Yes, he went to four different. 627 00:28:33,296 --> 00:28:38,416 Speaker 4: High schools and now he committed to like Georgia, then 628 00:28:38,456 --> 00:28:42,936 Speaker 4: he went to Nebraska. Now he's leaving Nebraska. Now I 629 00:28:42,976 --> 00:28:45,376 Speaker 4: think in a year or two, Dylan Roola probably what 630 00:28:45,416 --> 00:28:48,576 Speaker 4: the top quarterback drafted, he'd. 631 00:28:48,416 --> 00:28:50,296 Speaker 2: Be in the conversation potentially. 632 00:28:51,176 --> 00:28:54,216 Speaker 4: Right, So you're looking at thirty forty million dollars, So 633 00:28:54,376 --> 00:28:56,216 Speaker 4: do you have a loyalty issue if you got your 634 00:28:56,296 --> 00:28:59,256 Speaker 4: kid in position or he's in position to make forty 635 00:28:59,296 --> 00:29:02,336 Speaker 4: million dollars when it's all said and done, transferring every 636 00:29:02,376 --> 00:29:05,296 Speaker 4: year since eighth grade or or what what is your 637 00:29:05,456 --> 00:29:09,016 Speaker 4: thoughts on it of how del Royal is family or 638 00:29:09,096 --> 00:29:12,976 Speaker 4: him has been moving around so much in his livelihood. 639 00:29:13,056 --> 00:29:15,296 Speaker 3: You can go first, Yeah, I think it's a unique situation. 640 00:29:15,376 --> 00:29:17,456 Speaker 3: I don't think that's for every player. Because I cover 641 00:29:17,536 --> 00:29:19,456 Speaker 3: college football and you go around, you see a lot 642 00:29:19,496 --> 00:29:23,016 Speaker 3: of these guys have been to different high schools just 643 00:29:23,016 --> 00:29:25,936 Speaker 3: from a competitive standpoint, but not in different states. We're 644 00:29:25,936 --> 00:29:28,216 Speaker 3: talking about different states. He was in Arizona, he was 645 00:29:28,256 --> 00:29:30,536 Speaker 3: in Texas. He was in Georgia and then ended up 646 00:29:30,576 --> 00:29:34,256 Speaker 3: going to Nebraska, and Nebraska made sense because his uncle 647 00:29:34,376 --> 00:29:36,496 Speaker 3: was the O line coach. His father went there was 648 00:29:36,536 --> 00:29:39,256 Speaker 3: a legendary player. He's up there on the wall. And 649 00:29:39,296 --> 00:29:43,016 Speaker 3: then I can see even when we talked to him 650 00:29:43,056 --> 00:29:47,056 Speaker 3: at the media days and we asked these obscure questions 651 00:29:47,096 --> 00:29:49,176 Speaker 3: like if you could go anywhere, where to go? And he, 652 00:29:49,216 --> 00:29:52,216 Speaker 3: without a hesitation, went Ohio State and I was like, wow, 653 00:29:52,416 --> 00:29:54,976 Speaker 3: I mean he immediately said it like that right, And 654 00:29:55,056 --> 00:29:58,176 Speaker 3: so what you start to understand is he's got the 655 00:29:58,176 --> 00:30:01,376 Speaker 3: mentality where he wants to go beyond a team that's 656 00:30:01,416 --> 00:30:02,815 Speaker 3: going to be able to compete and put him in 657 00:30:02,816 --> 00:30:04,176 Speaker 3: a position to be successful. 658 00:30:04,656 --> 00:30:06,656 Speaker 2: And whereas Matt Ruhle told us. 659 00:30:06,576 --> 00:30:09,136 Speaker 3: When we were in the production meeting, when he was 660 00:30:09,176 --> 00:30:13,656 Speaker 3: recruiting RelA, he said, the reason I told you to 661 00:30:13,656 --> 00:30:15,776 Speaker 3: come here was because you have the talent, but we 662 00:30:15,816 --> 00:30:19,096 Speaker 3: can develop you to be ready for the NFL. We're 663 00:30:19,136 --> 00:30:21,575 Speaker 3: not there yet, but you're going to go through some 664 00:30:21,616 --> 00:30:24,176 Speaker 3: struggles early on as we developed this program and make 665 00:30:24,216 --> 00:30:26,815 Speaker 3: it into something that's going to become a powerhouse, and 666 00:30:26,856 --> 00:30:29,176 Speaker 3: we're going to put you into difficult situations but we're 667 00:30:29,176 --> 00:30:31,095 Speaker 3: also going to prepare you in a pro style offense. 668 00:30:31,136 --> 00:30:33,376 Speaker 3: And that's what resonated with him, and that's why I 669 00:30:33,416 --> 00:30:36,416 Speaker 3: went there. But obviously after last season, the struggles that 670 00:30:36,456 --> 00:30:39,216 Speaker 3: they had as a team, he's moving on to the 671 00:30:39,256 --> 00:30:40,816 Speaker 3: next best, best thing. 672 00:30:40,936 --> 00:30:42,736 Speaker 1: Well, I think the culture of that too, And to me, 673 00:30:42,776 --> 00:30:45,656 Speaker 1: it's not even the Royola issue, it's he is an 674 00:30:45,696 --> 00:30:49,256 Speaker 1: outlier in the world of college athletics, meaning he has 675 00:30:49,296 --> 00:30:52,456 Speaker 1: a ton of untapped potential. What's going to happen is 676 00:30:52,736 --> 00:30:54,776 Speaker 1: and again, I grew up in a freaking trailer park, 677 00:30:54,816 --> 00:30:56,856 Speaker 1: so I would be going where the money was. However, 678 00:30:56,936 --> 00:30:59,095 Speaker 1: you're going to have these guys that are transferring one, two, three, 679 00:30:59,176 --> 00:31:01,456 Speaker 1: four times. They're not going to have their degree. They 680 00:31:01,456 --> 00:31:02,936 Speaker 1: are not going to have a home base to go 681 00:31:03,016 --> 00:31:05,776 Speaker 1: back to, meaning they're not going to have the relations 682 00:31:05,776 --> 00:31:08,496 Speaker 1: in order to have a career outside of athletics afterward, 683 00:31:08,736 --> 00:31:10,616 Speaker 1: or even an alma mater to go back to that 684 00:31:10,736 --> 00:31:13,815 Speaker 1: really appreciates them. You played one year, you're not going 685 00:31:13,896 --> 00:31:15,856 Speaker 1: to stand on the sidelines and be celebrated unless you 686 00:31:15,896 --> 00:31:18,536 Speaker 1: won a national championship. So I think the culture of 687 00:31:18,576 --> 00:31:22,016 Speaker 1: all the moving around as dominant as it is right Now, 688 00:31:22,816 --> 00:31:25,816 Speaker 1: it's good for a few if they're continuing to look 689 00:31:25,856 --> 00:31:28,496 Speaker 1: for a bigger opportunity, but I think it's poisonous to 690 00:31:28,656 --> 00:31:32,896 Speaker 1: most because what's going to happen long term is they're 691 00:31:32,936 --> 00:31:35,016 Speaker 1: not going to have a home, they're not going to 692 00:31:35,016 --> 00:31:36,376 Speaker 1: have a degree, and they're not going to have a 693 00:31:36,416 --> 00:31:39,296 Speaker 1: career in professional sports because they really were never going 694 00:31:39,296 --> 00:31:39,856 Speaker 1: to anyway. 695 00:31:40,256 --> 00:31:43,256 Speaker 3: Well, I think also the other caveat to that is 696 00:31:43,576 --> 00:31:46,176 Speaker 3: once he does get drafted to the NFL logan as 697 00:31:46,176 --> 00:31:48,336 Speaker 3: you well know, guess what, there's no transferring. 698 00:31:49,016 --> 00:31:52,176 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're now going to have a contract for four years. 699 00:31:52,216 --> 00:31:54,616 Speaker 3: So if you go through some adversity early in your career, 700 00:31:54,656 --> 00:31:57,336 Speaker 3: which we all do, you're going to have to look 701 00:31:57,336 --> 00:31:59,176 Speaker 3: yourself in the mirror and say how do I get better? 702 00:31:59,256 --> 00:32:01,776 Speaker 2: And there's no running from that. You're on the team 703 00:32:01,816 --> 00:32:02,256 Speaker 2: that you're on. 704 00:32:03,696 --> 00:32:05,976 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I will follow with this. I know NFL 705 00:32:06,016 --> 00:32:08,696 Speaker 4: scouts the first question, you know, when I call college game, 706 00:32:08,696 --> 00:32:10,696 Speaker 4: the first thing I look at is like, okay, this 707 00:32:10,736 --> 00:32:14,296 Speaker 4: guy the quarterback via this school. Like everyone's transferred. So 708 00:32:14,456 --> 00:32:16,816 Speaker 4: NFL scouts the first question is, well why do you transfer? 709 00:32:17,336 --> 00:32:19,376 Speaker 4: You gotta be able to answer that. If you said 710 00:32:19,936 --> 00:32:22,936 Speaker 4: I transferred from Alabama because I wasn't playing there, then 711 00:32:22,936 --> 00:32:24,736 Speaker 4: you're probably not gonna be playing at the next spot, 712 00:32:24,856 --> 00:32:26,096 Speaker 4: or you might not be good enough to play in 713 00:32:26,136 --> 00:32:28,056 Speaker 4: the NFL if you're not playing at the first spot. 714 00:32:28,256 --> 00:32:30,575 Speaker 4: So Dylan Royola might say, you know, I'm transfer the 715 00:32:30,616 --> 00:32:32,816 Speaker 4: better opportunity. I wanted a better quarterback coach, I want 716 00:32:32,816 --> 00:32:35,656 Speaker 4: to get a pro style offense. Whatever. He might have 717 00:32:35,696 --> 00:32:38,576 Speaker 4: his reasons, but he's gonna have to answer those questions 718 00:32:38,576 --> 00:32:41,736 Speaker 4: of why. If you're just running from adversity, that ain't 719 00:32:41,776 --> 00:32:45,496 Speaker 4: gonna always steer clear. Now, if you're like a great 720 00:32:45,536 --> 00:32:48,376 Speaker 4: player at Delaware and you want to go to Alabama 721 00:32:48,376 --> 00:32:50,896 Speaker 4: cause you're could to get better competition to get ready 722 00:32:50,896 --> 00:32:54,136 Speaker 4: for the pros, that's understandable. They're gonna be like, okay, 723 00:32:54,176 --> 00:32:56,456 Speaker 4: we got understand that. But if you're like transferring three 724 00:32:56,496 --> 00:32:59,096 Speaker 4: times because you're not playing and guess what, you're probably 725 00:32:59,096 --> 00:33:00,536 Speaker 4: not gonna be playing in the NFL. You're not good 726 00:33:00,616 --> 00:33:03,176 Speaker 4: enough to play in college at one of your schools. 727 00:33:03,216 --> 00:33:05,856 Speaker 4: So I think answering the why is a big reason, 728 00:33:06,216 --> 00:33:08,816 Speaker 4: and that's obviously different, you know from case to case. 729 00:33:08,816 --> 00:33:11,376 Speaker 1: Spaces, Well, look, we really appreciate the time and Hey, 730 00:33:11,416 --> 00:33:13,456 Speaker 1: what are you doing with your animals foundation that I 731 00:33:13,496 --> 00:33:16,416 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier? Like that's a passion for you? 732 00:33:16,496 --> 00:33:19,016 Speaker 4: Why so you know, I've always grew up with animals, 733 00:33:19,016 --> 00:33:22,216 Speaker 4: but really is my wife. You know, we were dating 734 00:33:22,296 --> 00:33:24,296 Speaker 4: and she moved, you know, as my girlfriend moved him 735 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:27,456 Speaker 4: in New England, and she was a college softball player. 736 00:33:27,496 --> 00:33:28,936 Speaker 4: She was trying to figure out what life was like 737 00:33:28,976 --> 00:33:34,016 Speaker 4: post sports, and she started volunteering on animal shelter, working 738 00:33:34,056 --> 00:33:37,016 Speaker 4: cleaning kennels, like dirty jobs, like making very little money, 739 00:33:37,056 --> 00:33:38,776 Speaker 4: but did it for the passion. And I started getting 740 00:33:38,776 --> 00:33:41,136 Speaker 4: around it and I only see any animals that needed 741 00:33:41,176 --> 00:33:43,296 Speaker 4: help with seeing the people, I was like, man, it'd 742 00:33:43,296 --> 00:33:44,936 Speaker 4: be really cool to bring a platform this. So I 743 00:33:44,976 --> 00:33:48,656 Speaker 4: always try to combine my sports platform to animals. And 744 00:33:48,856 --> 00:33:50,736 Speaker 4: you know, we all we all know our dog lovers 745 00:33:50,736 --> 00:33:53,496 Speaker 4: and cat lovers usually have a good heart and have empathy, 746 00:33:53,576 --> 00:33:56,056 Speaker 4: so they're like my type of people. I usually like 747 00:33:56,096 --> 00:33:58,376 Speaker 4: people have pets. I don't know that's how times out 748 00:33:58,496 --> 00:34:00,855 Speaker 4: works out to be. So I've always tried to use 749 00:34:00,896 --> 00:34:04,656 Speaker 4: my platform to shine lights to adoptable pets and help 750 00:34:04,736 --> 00:34:06,936 Speaker 4: with those type of thing. So it just aligned really well. 751 00:34:06,976 --> 00:34:10,656 Speaker 4: But my wife Ashley worked it and lived it. I 752 00:34:10,696 --> 00:34:12,536 Speaker 4: love animals. I'm not saying I'm gonna get a job 753 00:34:12,536 --> 00:34:14,856 Speaker 4: at of kennel. Many times my wife did so I 754 00:34:14,896 --> 00:34:18,216 Speaker 4: definitely support her, support everybody in that field. And you know, 755 00:34:18,336 --> 00:34:20,216 Speaker 4: always since I had a platform, I try to shine 756 00:34:20,256 --> 00:34:22,336 Speaker 4: light on on the people and the pets. 757 00:34:22,496 --> 00:34:24,376 Speaker 2: Did you know that he adopted a hyena too? 758 00:34:24,616 --> 00:34:25,896 Speaker 1: Did you know that you have a pig? Does he 759 00:34:25,936 --> 00:34:26,536 Speaker 1: know you have a pig. 760 00:34:26,696 --> 00:34:28,736 Speaker 3: I've got a pig, dude, So you're I'm an animal 761 00:34:28,736 --> 00:34:31,616 Speaker 3: lover too, even though I don't. I hardly probably mess 762 00:34:31,616 --> 00:34:33,256 Speaker 3: with the pig chickens everything. 763 00:34:34,656 --> 00:34:35,216 Speaker 4: I bet you do. 764 00:34:35,296 --> 00:34:35,416 Speaker 2: Bro. 765 00:34:35,496 --> 00:34:38,016 Speaker 4: I know you got a ranch. I don't. I used 766 00:34:38,016 --> 00:34:39,815 Speaker 4: to drive a sprinter van. He had so many kids. 767 00:34:40,896 --> 00:34:44,136 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ari a r F V was real r r 768 00:34:44,216 --> 00:34:46,136 Speaker 1: F dot org. Hey Logan, great to talk to you. 769 00:34:46,416 --> 00:34:48,616 Speaker 1: Super happy for your success. It's been really cool to 770 00:34:48,616 --> 00:34:50,736 Speaker 1: watch you like start to blow up in this world. 771 00:34:50,776 --> 00:34:53,136 Speaker 1: So congratulations and hopefully I'll talk to you soon and 772 00:34:53,176 --> 00:34:53,656 Speaker 1: matter talk to you. 773 00:34:53,736 --> 00:34:56,536 Speaker 2: So yeah, congrats, buddy, appreciate you guys. 774 00:34:56,616 --> 00:34:57,216 Speaker 4: Keep crushing it. 775 00:34:59,696 --> 00:35:02,096 Speaker 1: All right, that's it, Thank you guys, Thanks to Logan Ryan, 776 00:35:02,736 --> 00:35:05,696 Speaker 1: Thanks to my friend Matt Castle. Thank you You're my 777 00:35:05,816 --> 00:35:07,896 Speaker 1: friend too, great job, your beard looks great. 778 00:35:08,056 --> 00:35:10,416 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been I mean growing this thing. I was 779 00:35:10,576 --> 00:35:11,376 Speaker 2: getting scruffy. 780 00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:15,336 Speaker 1: It looks not scruffy though. It looks like an elevated 781 00:35:15,416 --> 00:35:15,816 Speaker 1: you like. 782 00:35:15,856 --> 00:35:16,296 Speaker 2: I like it. 783 00:35:16,336 --> 00:35:18,016 Speaker 3: You have the boots on today? Oh I did you 784 00:35:18,056 --> 00:35:20,816 Speaker 3: know these boots? Is funny story. My wife bought these 785 00:35:20,856 --> 00:35:23,016 Speaker 3: boots from my son for Christmas. My twelve year old, 786 00:35:23,056 --> 00:35:25,736 Speaker 3: by the way, same size. He didn't fit into the thirteens. 787 00:35:25,816 --> 00:35:27,056 Speaker 3: We had to get him a thirteen and a half, 788 00:35:27,056 --> 00:35:28,896 Speaker 3: so she still hadn't sent these back yet. 789 00:35:29,456 --> 00:35:31,496 Speaker 2: I just tried them on today. Fit perfectly. 790 00:35:31,736 --> 00:35:34,896 Speaker 1: You wear the hand me downs of your way younger son. 791 00:35:35,016 --> 00:35:37,136 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's twelve, he's wearing a thirteen and a half. 792 00:35:37,176 --> 00:35:39,176 Speaker 3: I've got a thirteen on. But I felt pretty good. 793 00:35:39,216 --> 00:35:39,936 Speaker 3: I don't even know. 794 00:35:39,896 --> 00:35:42,016 Speaker 2: What Hey, dude, I haven't heard it. 795 00:35:42,096 --> 00:35:45,296 Speaker 1: Hey dudes are super comfort super comfortable? Yeah, no free ads, 796 00:35:45,296 --> 00:35:46,496 Speaker 1: but they're super cumpory. 797 00:35:46,536 --> 00:35:48,376 Speaker 3: Oh no, no free ads. But I mean, I didn't 798 00:35:48,376 --> 00:35:49,576 Speaker 3: even know what this brand was. I was like, are 799 00:35:49,576 --> 00:35:50,896 Speaker 3: people going to make fun of me when I were 800 00:35:51,016 --> 00:35:53,016 Speaker 3: no super gruffy? I have the same brand on, don't Yeah? 801 00:35:53,056 --> 00:35:55,216 Speaker 2: Huh, Yeah, you have the LODs a ton. Hey, dudes, 802 00:35:56,896 --> 00:35:59,536 Speaker 2: didn't know they did a collab. Really good present. 803 00:35:59,736 --> 00:36:01,936 Speaker 1: All right, thank you guys. We will see you guys 804 00:36:01,936 --> 00:36:09,536 Speaker 1: next week. By Everybody Lots to Say with Bobby Bones 805 00:36:09,536 --> 00:36:12,376 Speaker 1: and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and 806 00:36:12,496 --> 00:36:17,096 Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 807 00:36:17,096 --> 00:36:19,336 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.