1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ and 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Buck with you. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 3: Buck? 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: What is going on? Man? 6 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Not too much man, just coming off a great weekend, 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: trying to check it all out. College football is fully 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: ramped up. We'll talk to Red about his Hoosiers continue 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: whipping whip people, and then you know, the NFL season, 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: we're reaching a midpoint, so we kind of know who's won. 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: What's what? 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be on our next episode. We'll have Red on. 13 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: We'll see if we made any progress on the rookies. 14 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if we did or not. Ret'spen on 15 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: a heater. I need a Gavin to pick for me 16 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: this last week, so hopefully hopefully Gab had a nice jock. 17 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes. But before we get to, uh, 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: you know, recapping the rest of these games from Sunday, 19 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: we always try and get to the rest of the game. 20 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: So if you miss the episode with Baldi, we recapped 21 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: the top let's see five ish games, so we'll get 22 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: to some of these other games and some of our 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: other thoughts from that. But before we get to the 24 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: NFL you reference to college football stuff. I don't know 25 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: me is this gonna be the biggest turnover year? Like 26 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: when you look at the jobs that are open right now, 27 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: and then you know with potential of who could take 28 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: some of these jobs, what you know other jobs are 29 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: going to open up. I mean, I'm looking in the 30 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: SEC right now, right So it's Florida's open, LSU's openas got, 31 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: Arkansas's open. There's rumors that Kentucky could open. Then am 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: I missing anybody else? Florida, LSU, Arkansas potentially Kentucky. We've 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: already got that. That's so then we got Penn State, 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: We've got UCLA, We've got Stanford, We've got Virginia Tech. 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, new commitment. 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: I mean, holy correct, Oklahoma State, we've got from the 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: Big twelve. But you know, here's the thing, So you've 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: got just Florida, LSU, Penn State. Those three jobs I 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: think probably are going to go to established guys that 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: programs they have to. Auburn's another one that's rumored that 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: that could end up. 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: And then South Carolina could also open up, like if 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't finish out the right way. 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have a lot of stuff. 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean DJ, not only that they're talking 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: about Florida State and everything used to be insurance to 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: buy out has now become I guess, a simple workaround 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: for somebody to get on. 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: Man, we've got to get filment on. Explain like where 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: the money. I mean, I know there's a lot of money, 51 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: but man, these are some massive checks at these. 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: Well there's some massive checks. And so then DJ we 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: talked about all right, so all of those sec jobs, 54 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: they're looking for someone that can level up. Well, the 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: only people that can level up I would think would 56 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: be guys with a proven track record at that level 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: of getting to the promised land. But there aren't that 58 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: many coaches who've been able to get to the winner 59 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: circle that we're talking about. 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: It's one thing to get to the playoffs or whatever. 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: I mean, what we're going to try and lure Nick 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: Saban and Urban Meyer out of retirement because when you 63 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: think about the coaches that have won. 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: Championships, they're not many that are out there. 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: So everything we're talking about is pure speculation in terms 66 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: of a tried and true coach that knows how to 67 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: get the team there. 68 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: So let me just throw a couple things at you. 69 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: The names, Like with these SEC jobs, the names that 70 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: are going to be the most popular, Lane's going to 71 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: be number one. Right, He's an old mess. So if 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: he were to take one of these jobs now old 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: misses open open up, then Clark Lee att Vanderbilt good 74 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: to be him. He's going to have opportunities for any 75 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: of these jobs. I would think, you know, he'd be 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: a legit candidate. I think our buddy Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri, 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: if you know Florida LSU, I would think he's got 78 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: to be on their their short list. So then maybe 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: Missouri could pop open. And then you start looking at 80 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: Matt Campbell. Is this the year that he find decides 81 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: to leave Iowa State? Matt rule has been mentioned at 82 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Penn State obviously because he went there. That's Nebraska. Like 83 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: you start doing the musical chairs thing around here, Buck, 84 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: and it's now all of a sudden, we're looking at 85 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: just and not only hiring new coaches. But it's a 86 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: free for all on these rosters at that point in time. 87 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, free for all, and it's certainly not a good thing. 88 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe college football thinks it's a great thing 89 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: to have all this conversation, but to me, the chaos 90 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be great. And I think if you're 91 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: one of these teams, I think one the program that 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: you're at, if you're contemplating a move, I think you 93 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: better understand where you are in the landscape because making 94 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: a move now amid all of this chaos, you could 95 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: get left holding the bag and you may get a 96 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: downgrade over what you currently have. It is unlike anything 97 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: that I've ever seen. The expectations and the pressure. And 98 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: I heard Nick Saban say this on a program. He 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: talked about when you open up the money where you 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: have collectives and boosters and more, say, you're giving those 101 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: people a seat at the table. And now a voice 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: that was silent now has a lot of weight because 103 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: there's a big check attest to it. And so these 104 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: coaches have to understand when you open the money in 105 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. Man, the expectations go through 106 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: the roof, and no one has the patience to wait 107 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: on a rebuilding effort like they want it now and 108 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: they want it each and every year, which is really 109 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: an unrealistic expectation. 110 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: Can I give you my kind of three layers deep 111 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: thought on this of Okay, I say you're one of 112 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: these teams that actually has stability. You're not making a change. 113 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: I midst all this massive change. Man, I'll tell you 114 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: what you know. I know they didn't win, but LSU, Florida, 115 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: potentially Auburn, Penn State. There's a lot of players at 116 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: those schools. So here's my thing. Everybody's gonna say, well, 117 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: who you get from the portal, you get from the portal. 118 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's that's not the right thinking. The thinking is, 119 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: can I go get the D line coach that just 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: got to let go at Florida or Elish. I don't 121 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: even know where they are, but maybe I can bring 122 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: in that guy who has all the relationships with these 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: guys who, by the way, are gonna go into a 124 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: new school. But guess what, I got similar coach. I 125 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: know I'm in a similar They're gonna be teaching me 126 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: the same technique. I'm not gonna be behind. From that standpoint, 127 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: there's familiarity there. I would think some shrewd like calculated 128 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: teams are gonna be like, man, okay, you're worried about 129 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: the players. I'm gonn go snatch some of these coaches. 130 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: Then then that will help me get some of these players. 131 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I think it's really interesting because what's going 132 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: to happen out of all of this. There's gonna be 133 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: so much movement that it's not only like after you 134 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: get past the first wave. Right, Let's say Lane Kiffin 135 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: is part of the first wave of coaches that has 136 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: to go EJ. I have to have this conversation because 137 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and I'm looking at if James Franklin 138 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: is adamant about getting back in where does he go? 139 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: And he goes back to the SEC. 140 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, what if he decides to go to 141 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech because he has all those relationships that he 142 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: can have. 143 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: That job yesterday. I mean, he can have that job 144 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: any day of the week he wants it. 145 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like someone who was a tried and 146 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: true recruiter, and we can talk about like a he 147 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: didn't win the big Game or whatever whatever that is. 148 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I just think that there's going to be a place 149 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: for the guys who like, after you get past that 150 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: first wave, you're gonna want to have an experienced coach 151 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: that has some pelts on the wall, that has been 152 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: able to win. And so he and some of these 153 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: other guys that are being dismissed. I think some of 154 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: these guys that get fired are going to end up 155 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: landing in other spots. 156 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: Oh y, the. 157 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Initial reputation like, oh, he wasn't good enough at our spot? 158 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah to me, Yeah absolutely. James Franklin, I'm looking at this. 159 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: I think like if Auburn were to pop open, I 160 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: think he'd be How would you not hire James Franklin. 161 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: What he's accomplished. They'd take that at Auburn all day, 162 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: every day, that type of consistency, I would think he 163 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: would definitely be in play there. I think he'd be 164 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: in play if old Miss, if Lane left, would make 165 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: a lot of sense. Not to mention, I think you 166 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: could have Virginia Tech, UCLA, Stanford, any of those jobs, 167 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State and I mean he have any of those jobs. 168 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: Who's going to be a better candidate than him that's 169 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: going to be interested in that? 170 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 171 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: No, I mean, look, I'm curious. I'm just curious how 172 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: all these are going to play out. 173 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: The other thing is I do think that you know, 174 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: we're talking about the track record head coaches, the name 175 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: that a lot of people talk about who's been you know, 176 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: the success story that everybody could be hunting for. The 177 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: next one is Dan Lanning. Okay, he was the He 178 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: was a top assistant under one of the under one 179 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: of the greats there under Kirby. So that who brought 180 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: the energy in the organization combination and he's got Oregon 181 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: rolling almost say that is that Will Stein is at 182 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: his offensive coordinator there at Oregon. Like who is that next? 183 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 184 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: They have to get raided at some point, right, Like 185 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: they've been so successful tucked away and people have had 186 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly had success and all that, but Dad landing 187 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: the energy the vibe is a bilt because and I've 188 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: said this in talking to guys who worked under Nick Saban, 189 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: and I talked to Mike Loxley, and I've told you 190 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: about the conversation we had and he said, like the 191 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: blueprint works, but you have to do it in your 192 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: own personality and when you talk about and you look 193 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: at the things. 194 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: That are out there. 195 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: On Dan Lanning process, the reflection, he does some of 196 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: the stuff for my favorite author, John Gordon, where they 197 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: talk about the reflection after each game. He has a 198 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: new school spin on the process that was very successful 199 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: for Nick Saban, Kirby smart. 200 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: I do believe you're onto something. 201 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: Hey, who's the man next to the man that can 202 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: get us that stable program that we want. But maybe 203 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: they inject a different energy that makes us attractive and 204 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: appealing to kids and those things that is certainly going 205 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: to be in play. 206 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: All right. 207 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: If I gave you the choice, and let's just do 208 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: the three that are of the I would say the 209 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: top three that are already available right now, which would 210 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: be Florida, LSU, Penn State. Give me the Bucky Brooks 211 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: one two three would be the LSU Florida Penn State. 212 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: The reason why I would say LSU is there is 213 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: just so much talent there DJ. 214 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: If you know it, we talk about it every time 215 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: the draft is there. Like the LSU job is a 216 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: plum job. The reason why I say Florida and I 217 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: know it appears to be dysfunctioned because there have been 218 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: some good coaches that have gone there and that got 219 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: it done. But I'm still thinking it's a great school. 220 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: It is right there in the heartland, like they have 221 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: tradition because I've seen and maybe it's the years of 222 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: seeing Spurrier and Urban and all these coaches do it there. 223 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: I think the Penn State job, to me is a 224 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: little tricky because we saw a different level and caliber 225 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: of athlete going there with James Franklin, because those guys 226 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: would show up at the combine and blow the testing 227 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: out the water. Are you gonna be able to get 228 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the same guys there? I just don't no, because I 229 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: don't know how much of that is him and how 230 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: much is that is the school and the money in 231 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: those things. So that's why I have them third, even 232 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: though I recognize their tradition and dispesionists of that place, 233 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: That's why I have it ringked Third, what's your three? 234 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: How would you order? 235 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: I would have the exact same order. And the reason 236 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: LSU LSU is owns the state of Louisiana. I mean, 237 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: if it's around those kids grow up wanting to go there, 238 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: that is that is there. I mean, Florida has got 239 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: there's high school talent out the wazoo. But you're competing 240 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: against Miami and Florida State like there's nobody, None of 241 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: those schools own the state of Florida. Like that's all. 242 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: That's a that's a fight. And you got Mario Christobal, 243 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: who's an absolute maniac as a recruiter, so you're fighting 244 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: for those kids. Now, there's plenty of them to go around, 245 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: So I get all that, But to me, I think 246 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: ls you would be a little easier from that standpoint. 247 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 2: And look, penn State owns Pennsylvania. I mean, any kid 248 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: that grows up in Pennsylvania, that's that's their their spot. 249 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: So I understand that. I just think from the pool 250 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: that I'm pulling from the history the program success, I 251 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: think it's infinitely attainable there. Everything is there and just 252 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: I mean, shoot, I think this is the first coach 253 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: and what the last three that has to do? Last 254 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: three championship and who. 255 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: Hasn't won it within the first four to five years? 256 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, they all saving less Miles Ozier run all did 257 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: it within the first five years of their existence. So 258 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: it has been proven that you can win it there. 259 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: Now can you sustain it and are you there for long? 260 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 261 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: I think that has to be how you ingratiate yourself 262 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: to the community and the players. But there's a lot 263 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: of greatness that exists down at LSU, and I think 264 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: the same a similar blueprint works at LSU that works 265 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: at Florida. 266 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: I think you throw your arms around it. 267 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: You got to embrace the tradition that's spurrier and urban 268 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: and look, man, even Dan Mulla has success there. Like 269 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: there's a path to victory there. You just have to 270 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: be able to do it. Penn State is just different 271 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: because I think one, you have to recruit nationally. 272 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: You have to get in the. 273 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: Dmv DC to get people to go up there because 274 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: it's tucked away away from everything. You have to be 275 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: a hell of a recruiter to make that place pop 276 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: and continue to pop. 277 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: You have to hear you used to see if whoever 278 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 2: they bring in their approaches the success that they had, 279 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: I mean, and so that it was like eleven wins 280 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: top ten. Just write it down. 281 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know careful what you wish for. 282 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: It's all I'm getting. 283 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: Named that they're talking about, that that is being floated 284 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: sometimes you talked about next to the man Brian Hartline. Now, 285 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: the only thing Brian Hardline is terrific coach, excellent recruiter. 286 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: But man, that is a big job to get. That's 287 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: a big job. Not saying he's not prepared for it, 288 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: but that is a big. 289 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: Job, no question. So we'll see what happens with him, 290 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: But really interesting time here in college football. Let's take 291 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: a quick break. We get back, we will, We'll jump 292 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: into some of these games we missed the other day 293 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: and kind of clean up the Sunday right after this. 294 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: All right, buck, let's rip through a couple of these, 295 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: just a couple thoughts here. Buffalo Carolina man Rice Young 296 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: Appreciation Day. He didn't play, and they scored nine points, 297 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: lost forty to nine to Buffalo. Look, McMillan made a 298 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: couple of plays for them, but Buffalo kind of did 299 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: whatever they wanted to in this game, do whatever. 300 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: They wanted, and Buffalo Sean mcdermin's either nine to ten 301 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: and oh after bi weeks he said, if I knew 302 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: the recipe in the formula, I would do it all 303 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: the time. 304 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: I would just say this. 305 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills, coming off a week when they did 306 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: a self check, they got back to who they are. 307 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: They ran the football, They ran it early, they ran 308 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: it Offen, they ran it with James Cook, they ran 309 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: it with Josh Allen. And that sets the table for 310 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: everything else do they do? 311 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: To me? Their best defense is their offense. 312 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: They're good enough personnel wise on defense to be middle 313 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: of the pack but they need their offense to help 314 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: them by playing keep away. When they're able to do that, 315 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: they're the team that we always talked about being right 316 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: there with the Kansas City's and the other teams that 317 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: we used to seeing in the Final four. 318 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: Now. 319 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: The impressive thing to me was that game, and it 320 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: was early. They jumped on him right away with James 321 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: Cook going off against the defense, and Carolina actually got 322 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: a lot of nice pieces there, So that was impressive 323 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: from that standpoint. The fact they were so physical stood 324 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: out to me. But also I think I'm not joking 325 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: about the Bryce Young. I think maybe get a little 326 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: bit of reprieve there, a little bit from the pressure. 327 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: They had won some games with him lately, and I 328 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: know it's not the most dynamic offense, but it looked 329 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: better than what we saw that it looked like without him. 330 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: I don't think that's debatable. 331 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: Yes, not debatable. 332 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: And Andy Dalton didn't have a great day just to 333 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: turnovers and all of that. So yeah, I think it 334 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: is a bit of a Bryce Young appreciation day. You 335 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: understand what you have in him, you continue to build 336 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: around him. He and Tedoroy McMillan and some of the 337 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: young guys the running game, which he didn't really get to, 338 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: which was kind of weird. 339 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, they have some pieces in place. 340 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: It's a good slice of humble pie that they can 341 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: digest and then try and find a way to be 342 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: a better team because the good thing is Tampa one. 343 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: But the rest of the vision is still right there 344 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: for no doubt. Let's get to the next one here. 345 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: Houston just kind of out physical beat up San Francisco 346 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: in this game twenty six to fifteen. I was interesting 347 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: watching this because I haven't seen Houston in the playoffs 348 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: last year. The two things obviously that stood out. Number 349 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: one was the easy one was the d line and 350 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: how well they dominated the line of scrimmage against charges 351 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: in that playoff game. Knew that was. You know, that's 352 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: as good as it gets with their front. But the 353 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: other thing in that game, if you remember ce J 354 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: Stroud took off and used his legs for some big conversions. 355 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: He had four first down runs in this game. Two 356 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: of the month sneak's okay, but the other one you 357 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: get a free runner he makes miss and creates something. 358 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: Another one he just he's in the pocket. It's a 359 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: clean pocket, but he sees an opportunity to use his 360 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: legs and goes and takes it. That's a key part 361 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: to me. I wish he would tap into that a 362 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: little bit more. I saw it in the playoffs and 363 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: I saw it in this game. 364 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, sneaky athletic in terms of being able to buy time, 365 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: get away from it, create extra opportunities because he runs 366 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: away from the passers. 367 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: That stuff is dear. 368 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: I think the thing that you talked about early when 369 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: you described his game, that is his Houston Texans recipe. 370 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: They are at their best when they're the bullies on 371 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: the block. Would they lean into that ultra aggressive defense 372 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: and personality and physicality and everyone knows it. 373 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: Man. The San Francisco forty nine ers are the limits test. 374 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna let you know who you are when it 375 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: comes to your physicality and that stuff, and the Texans 376 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: match that. The other thing is can they take that, 377 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: wrap that up and replicate it each and every week 378 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: because if they do that, they become a horrid out 379 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: and they can kind of crawl their way back into 380 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: the division race. 381 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: Even though Indianapolis has raced out to a seven and 382 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: one start. 383 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: Can I give you two things that they need to 384 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: do in Houston. Two things they need to do. Number 385 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: one is trade for Brice Hall, and number two is 386 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: then go out and find a way to get Charlie 387 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: Kohler from from the Ravens so you can just unleash 388 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: the Iowa State offense right now. They've got Jalen Mole, 389 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: They've got gins, They've got three Iowa State receivers. I mean, 390 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: just go get the w rest of them. Go get it, 391 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: Breece Hall, throw them in the backfield, Coler throw a 392 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: tight end. 393 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: But I think I think what they have a great 394 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: appreciation for is Joe Mixon and what he brought to 395 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: their offense. 396 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: Last year. 397 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: They tried to bring Nick Chubb in, but Joe Mixon 398 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: gives them their steady Eddy presence in the run game, 399 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: and they need that and they're gonna need that as 400 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: they get into these very competitive contests down the stretch. 401 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations to who's playing receiver at Iowa State this year. 402 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: I haven't checked in on it yet, but he'll be 403 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: at Houston Texans next year. They just love their Iowa 404 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: State gags. Man, how about this beat down New England 405 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: thirty two to thirteen. Buck, I gotta tell you, man, 406 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're if your social media team 407 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: at Carolina was able to tweet this week. I didn't 408 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: check in on it, but my man is playing some 409 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: good football. Drake mays it like it's and I talked 410 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: about this a little bit with Baldy. Their schedule when 411 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: you pull it up, I mean, they aren't hitting the 412 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: brakes anytime soon. They're gonna win games that he's gonna 413 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: put up big numbers. 414 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna put a big numbers. So a few different things. 415 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: When it comes to New England and Mike Rabel and 416 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: those guys, I think Mike Rabel has mastered the same 417 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: thing that you said, Nick sire Yanni and the Eagles 418 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: have mastered in terms of there's a way to play 419 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: the seventeen game schedule and then there's a different way 420 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: to play the postseason and playing the regular season schedule. 421 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 3: More games are lost than one. 422 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: If we do a handful of things each week, we're 423 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: going to be right there to win the game at 424 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: the end. I would say, yeah, the Patriots brought us 425 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: some new people, but the biggest thing is they have 426 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: a coach that really understands that and they adhere to that. 427 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: Philosophy, which is why they're winning games. 428 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: The second part of it, I had to write this 429 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: week in the notebook about Hey, let's redraft twenty twenty four, 430 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: and you know, you have to come down to the 431 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: quarterback situation, and so which quarterback would you take at 432 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: number one? Would it be Drake Made, Jayden Daniels or 433 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Kathy Williams. And it was really hard for me because 434 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: I am the biggest Jayden Daniels fan. But when I'm 435 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: looking at Drake May right now, clear, it is hard. 436 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: And I'll say this during the draft process, sometimes you're 437 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: too close to the situation because I watched every snap 438 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: of him at Carolina and all those things. Sometimes those 439 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: warts that you see as a fan can cloud yourate 440 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: evaluation as a scout. This dude is the prototypical franchise 441 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: quarterback that everybody would want. He's big, he has great touch, 442 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: timing and anticipation, has the arm that you want, is athletic. 443 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: I would say the point that maybe people don't know 444 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: about him. He has a dog personality in terms of 445 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: his competitiveness, and the team takes that on. There's a 446 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: lot to love about Drake May and the more he plays, 447 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: the greater the appreciation from the football world. 448 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's impressive. Man, there's on time rhythm, throws there, 449 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: move him, they boot him. Does a nice job there. 450 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: You see touch up and down, throws, deep balls. I mean, well, 451 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what else there is left to see. Man, 452 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: he's doing everything. 453 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: The only thing that will I will say is if 454 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: you go back and look, he only played two years 455 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: of high school ball due to COVID, and then he 456 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: only played two years at Carolina, And what is happening 457 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: is the mature, the maturity, the growth, gets it up 458 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: with the physicality and Josh McDaniel's and great, whatever they've 459 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: done to crack the code, they've unlocked the and this 460 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: dude is playing like an absolute superstar. 461 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: No doubt. He's been awesome. By the way, congrats Carolina 462 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: almost won a game last week. Man, that was fun. 463 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: I mean it was it was fun. It was there. 464 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: It was heartbreaking, gut riching. But we're coming. 465 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 2: It's only amount of time we're coming. Come on to stop. 466 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: We're getting closer. We're getting closer to winning two weeks 467 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: in a row. The ball is going into the end zone. 468 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: We talked away. We just learned how to take care 469 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: of it. More wins, so more wins on horizon. 470 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 2: You know you could have done though, you could have 471 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: you could have used Adobe photoshop and photoshop the football 472 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: back in his hands. You get an amage of that, all right, 473 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: Tampa Tampa, New Orleans, Tampa whole home twenty three to 474 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: three beat down. 475 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, this is it wasn't a masterpiece 476 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: on offense. So let's talk about Todd Bowles in the defense. 477 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: And what he does is he is a guy that 478 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: lives in the high pressure world. 479 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 3: They do a lot of pressure was zone behind it 480 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 3: so they can have their eyes on it. 481 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: They don't give up big plays and once helocks what 482 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: you're doing on pass protection, he's going to harass you. 483 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: And that's what able to do. 484 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: We did see Tyler Schett have an opportunity to get 485 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: in the game late. Didn't really change anything. But this 486 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: was all about their defense. Their office wasn't great, but 487 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: they did enough and they won the game because their 488 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: defense is lights out and they do that head into 489 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: a biewek. 490 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 2: Chris Braswell did a nice job Anthony Nelson with the 491 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: pick in that game as well. So they had a 492 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: lot of different players A lot of different faces contributing 493 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 2: on that defense, So that's that's a good sign. I 494 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: love their culture down there. Man, they just play hard 495 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: and physical. Speaking of playing hard, physical, Indie smashing Tennessee 496 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: thirty eight to fourteen. I've saw that, and as you 497 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: have as well seen the the c Indy team. Man, man, 498 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: they're rolling. 499 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: They're really good, and I don't know how long we 500 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: can deny them. They're probably I. 501 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: Don't think anybody that denies them now as not watching. 502 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: The title contender, because their offense as every ingredient that 503 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: you need to be a championship team. 504 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 3: They have a quarterback planing at an MVP level. 505 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: You could say the same thing about the franchise running 506 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: back who's also planning at an MVP level. They have 507 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: playmakers galore on the outside, really good offensive line, and 508 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: an opportunistic defense with all three units phases offense, defense, 509 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: special teams working together, They're a hard team to beat. 510 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: And now that the confidence has started to grow and 511 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: going through the roof, this team believes that they can. 512 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: They look they deserve a seat at the table. Just 513 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: a well constructed roster team. And who knew that Daniel 514 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Jones was the Lynchpin to unlock it, but it's been 515 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: unlocked in there snow. 516 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: Going back for the Colts. 517 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: You know how like the stories you hear about Ben 518 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: Affleck and Matt Damon, how when they were kids they 519 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: sit there and dream about what it would be like 520 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: one day and they end up writing good Will hunting 521 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: together and their kind of thing takes on sitting there thinking, 522 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: like last year in Minnesota, they sitting there like Daniel 523 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: Jones and Sam Darnold just sitting there saying, man, nobody 524 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: appreciates us, buddy, let's go, let's go. Let's go. I'm 525 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: gonna go take over Seattle, you go take over Indy. Yeah, 526 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: that's a Super Bowl next year. Yea, let's do that. 527 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 2: Let's let's make that happen. 528 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: And they don't show on their way to being able 529 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: to do that. 530 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: Look, but we talked about this, We talked about this 531 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: last year when it came to Daniel Jones. The best 532 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: thing that he did, he did a reset, went to Minnesota, 533 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: kind of cooled out, learned a lot from Kevin O'Connell 534 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: and those guys, And I bet you Kevin O'Connell and 535 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: then would love to have him there now because of 536 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: the way he's playing. He goes to Indianapolis with Shane 537 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: Styke and who has proven that he can really get 538 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: really good quarterbacks to play no matter what their style is, 539 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: he can find a way to get them going. 540 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: And then he surrounded himself by a back. I think 541 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: he had self a wet no man. 542 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: If I have a good running back behind me, like 543 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: I had a New York for Saquon Barkley, give me 544 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: a good offensive line, some playmakers. I can do a 545 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: lot by being the point guard and not having to 546 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: do it all. He's done that, but I'm still say this. 547 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: The best hire that they made in the offseason was 548 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator lou and Aroumo. They are They went from 549 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: a simple scheme to have some complexity to it where 550 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: they can use these snowflake game plans to disrupt and 551 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: discombobulate these opponents. 552 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: They're doing it. I mean, they are a problem and 553 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: they're going to continue to. 554 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: Be a problem because they can run it, they can 555 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: throw it, and they can stop it on defense. 556 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: That's all you need. 557 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: Chris Ballard went from oh my gosh, this could be it. 558 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: This is his last exact so he's gonna be Yeah, 559 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: he might a good shot of being the executive of 560 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: the Year when it's all said and done. And you 561 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: know what the other thing is. And I think this 562 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 2: is a good reminder and it goes back to and 563 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not going to compare it Richardson to 564 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: Josh Rosen. But got a pivot, man, when you know 565 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: this isn't the guy stop holding on to it. I 566 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 2: don't if he's the first pick, the fourth pick, the 567 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: thirty first pick. They got to move on, man. You 568 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: can't once you know, you gotta move. 569 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got to do it fast. 570 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: How expensive it is, whatever, it looks like, it is 571 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: clear that they just needed the right guy behind in 572 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: the backfield to be able to get it done. 573 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 3: And right now Daniel Jones is the right guy. Uh. 574 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: We able to negotiate that too. 575 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: That no kidding, He's gonna be doing quite well. All right, Well, 576 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: there you go. This is a quick one today, but 577 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 2: a fun one. We will have RHTT on the next episode. 578 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: We'll do a little rookie draft. Well we'll look back 579 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: at last week's rookies as well, so be on the 580 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: lookout for that. See you next time. Right here on, 581 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: move the sticks