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Speaker 1: Good morning, swear and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by FanDuel. It's Thursday, December fourth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeats here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: get to today. We're gonna touch on a few of

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Speaker 1: last night's games, Big Jamal Murray Game, Big Going for

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Speaker 1: fifty plus again. We'll also hit the beach to answer

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Speaker 1: a few of your NBA questions. But first, bundle up, boys.

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Speaker 1: A winter full of Yannis trade rumors is upon us.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yannis is reopening the conversation about his future

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Speaker 1: with the Bucks. Per ESPN. He and his agent are

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Speaker 1: discussing whether his best fit is to stay in Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: or a move elsewhere. A resolution to these talks is

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Speaker 1: expected in the coming weeks here, which will result in

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Speaker 1: shaping whether Yannis is available, I guess ahead of the

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Speaker 1: February fifth trade deadline. So here we go. We can

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Speaker 1: get to Jannis and his injury last night in a

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Speaker 1: pretty shocking sort of Bucks win without Yannis. But let's

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Speaker 1: start with the juicy part of this. And this is

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Speaker 1: this report from Sham's and Windhor saying it as well, like, look,

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Speaker 1: here we go again, TK with the possibility possibility of

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Speaker 1: Jannis and his agent asking for a trade possibility.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a soft launch trade request. Let

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Speaker 3: the conversation begin during the summer. He's like, I am

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Speaker 3: locked in for the Bucks, but I might change my mind,

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Speaker 3: And it feels like he's changing his mind. The team

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Speaker 3: was really bad when Jannis was out. Came back a

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Speaker 3: loss to the Wizards, which would send anybody over the edge.

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Speaker 3: So at this point it does feel like Yannis may

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Speaker 3: have played his last game for the Bucks. There's a

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Speaker 3: long time between now and the trade deadline. We still

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Speaker 3: got two months, but a lot of players become eligible.

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Speaker 3: On December fifteenth. We saw the injury to Janis last night.

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Speaker 3: CAF injuries can take a little bit of time to

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Speaker 3: come back from, depending on what it turns out to be.

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Speaker 3: So it wouldn't be surprising to me if Yannis stays

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Speaker 3: on the shelf until he moves to another place. But

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Speaker 3: it feels a lot like the end of the Damian

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Speaker 3: Lillard tenure in Portland to me, when it's like, we

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Speaker 3: know you want to leave, man, you can make a

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Speaker 3: trade request. And I don't think anybody would be upset

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Speaker 3: with Giannis at this point. He won a title for

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Speaker 3: the Bucks, their first one in fifty years. He's given

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Speaker 3: them a lot of chances to build teams around him,

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Speaker 3: including not saying anything over the summer when the biggest

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Speaker 3: move they could poll was bringing in Miles Turner. So

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Speaker 3: to me, yeah, maybe they're discussing the future. All that

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Speaker 3: means is Janni's figuring out which team is next for him.

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Speaker 4: To me, this is all about Yiannis using all the

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Speaker 4: power to get a trade to help him in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 4: right here and right now.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: It's going to Milwaukee front office and saying we've got

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Speaker 4: a draft pick we can trade in thirty one or

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Speaker 4: thirty two, Go get me some help. Did you see

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Speaker 4: what happened against the Washington Wizards. We gave up those

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Speaker 4: giving up those points. I need help right here right now.

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Speaker 4: To me, it reminds me the end of the Lebron

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Speaker 4: front office trade every pick man, go get George Hill,

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Speaker 4: go get Rodney Hood they would, and got Dwayne Wade

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Speaker 4: to help him at the end of his career.

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Speaker 2: That's what it reminds me of.

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Speaker 1: You already done that though too more here so then

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Speaker 1: obviously trading Middleton for the Kusma experiment, young Lillard, and

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Speaker 2: So they have tried things, they've tried. They could try

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Speaker 2: me more.

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Speaker 1: I think is saying try more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I think that's what this one is him

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Speaker 1: It doesn't look like he's coming today. Yeah, they're saying, basically,

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Speaker 1: it's not an achilles injury.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there wasn't the look back. He didn't look back

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Speaker 4: so it looked different, so it didn't look extremely long.

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Speaker 4: They didn't examine it on the bench, so it doesn't

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Speaker 4: lots of rumors hit maybe it's Atlanta. They could trade

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Speaker 4: it is that he wants to be in New York

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Speaker 4: work out like the end of Lebron in Cleveland in

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Speaker 4: But I think he's sticking around for these next couple months.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, December fifteenth, I'm putting this down here.

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Speaker 4: Make a trade here in eleven days. It's also my

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Speaker 4: birthday on December sixth, Make me a happy man.

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Speaker 2: So he's I think.

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Speaker 4: I think Alex Latzis and Ganis are saying a happy man.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's many people that are thinking the

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Speaker 1: are saying, Johannis came into this season, Hey, I will

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Speaker 1: assess where we are after twenty games or so. And

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Speaker 1: that's where we are now. And the assessment is we

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Speaker 1: do not show signs of competing for an Eastern Conference title.

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Speaker 1: Here right now, they're ten and thirteen, they've lost eight

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Speaker 1: that was huge, So they need those type of wins.

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Speaker 1: But that more people think it's this meeting, this talk

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Speaker 1: with John Horsse and the Bucks front office is all right.

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Speaker 1: I said what I said in the summer. We came in,

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Speaker 1: a second, but maybe we're not all that good. And

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Speaker 1: maybe now explore the possibility of moving me either to

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Speaker 1: you're very not many people are thinking the way you

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Speaker 4: Say yeah, and from I'm sure other people are thinking

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Speaker 4: this is the best time to get the most for

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Speaker 4: Yannis to gumbo right here, right now, because then you

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Speaker 4: have two playoff runs essentially under this contract, so it

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Speaker 4: makes sense to trade him now at his youngest, so

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Speaker 4: you get more back.

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Speaker 2: I understand that. Yeah, but you look at the Bucks roster.

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Speaker 4: How much better did you did Giannis who said I'm

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Speaker 4: sticking here for this season expect them to be.

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Speaker 2: Look at that.

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Speaker 4: I look each one. He expected more from Ryan Rollins.

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Speaker 4: He got it. Ryan Rollins is the most improved candidate.

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Speaker 4: He's a plus five hundred on fan Duellized odds to

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Speaker 4: win most improved Player. Miles Turner also playing well. I

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Speaker 4: think those are the two guys who are untradeable with

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Speaker 4: And then there are some players that they probably don't

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Speaker 4: want to trade. Aj Green probably don't want to trade him.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Porter Junior, who's only played four games this season.

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Speaker 4: He'd just come back for the last three arding to

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Speaker 4: play a lot better. I assume they don't want to

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Speaker 4: trade him. Kuzma is playing well, but I think he

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Speaker 4: is tradeable. Bobby Portis, Jercho Sims, those guys are fine.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much better they expected them to be.

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Speaker 1: In all honesty, I think he thought they'd be better

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Speaker 2: Well, he missed a bunch of those games, and that's

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Speaker 1: Four games and they went on four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and k missed a lot of games too, So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, but I think again, the point

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Speaker 1: this is like soft launch two point oh yeah, being honest,

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Speaker 2: All these reports, well yeah, maybe more.

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Speaker 1: But he's reported in October that the Knicks were Jannis

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Speaker 1: Is preferred destination. That's reported by reputable, obviously reporters in

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Speaker 1: the game. And then we know that the two teams,

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Speaker 1: the Knicks and the Bucks, they talked in August. Now,

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Speaker 1: those trade talks fell apart, but they explored the idea

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Speaker 1: what would it take, Well, would we do it? Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna wait all that. Uh, And I just think

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Speaker 1: now we've come to the point with Joannis specifically, like

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Speaker 1: I'm getting up there. I'm now in curly occurring these

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Speaker 1: He knows there's not that many years at peak Yiannis

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Speaker 1: level here where it's like the thirty thirty, twelve and

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Speaker 1: to try and win another title, and I'm thinking he

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Speaker 1: doesn't see it in Milwaukee any longer.

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Speaker 3: I think he's won one playoff series since the Yeah

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Speaker 3: Right Champions right Right. Once the Damian Lillard experiment didn't

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Speaker 3: it was like they don't really have a lot of

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Speaker 3: it's just a matter of Janni's basically deciding where he

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Speaker 3: be Yannis instructing the Bucks where he wants to be

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Speaker 3: traded in the Bucks trying to make the best possible

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Speaker 3: deal with that team. So I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: is it literally just gonna bey hoanness calling his shot?

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Speaker 3: Kind of is what it feels.

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Speaker 2: Like, right.

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Speaker 4: I think he is saying, right here, right now, trade

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Speaker 4: a draft pick and get me something or else I'm got.

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Speaker 4: It is literally Lebron going to David Griffin and saying,

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Speaker 4: do something. I'm Lebron James. I'm here in Cleveland, and

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Speaker 4: I think he's playing the same card, which makes sense

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Speaker 4: because they need help, but.

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Speaker 3: They definitely need to help.

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Speaker 1: That's like also malpractice to some extent for the Bucks

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Speaker 1: organization to do that. If he's saying that, hey, trade

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Speaker 1: another future first round pick, get something to help me.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we're sitting here going what the hell would

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Speaker 1: they get that's really going to vault them up the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference standings into the title conversation. Also, there's a

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Speaker 1: team that's lost one goddamn game this year, Like, good

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Speaker 1: luck trying to beat them if you even get there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, like, what is like, what is it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at a certain point I'd be like, ah, we don't

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Speaker 1: want to do that, man, We look to explore trade.

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Speaker 3: I didn't trade that pick, right, it was the Colin

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Speaker 3: Sexton pick, right, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, I can't remember.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they went and got a bunch of players.

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Speaker 4: As I said, even the year before that, in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 4: same thing, Lebron did the same thing over and over.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't always play out that way. It doesn't play out

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Speaker 4: then there are players for the Hawks including that, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely the same.

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Speaker 3: Like I think the Rockets probably would trade Amn Thompson

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Speaker 3: trade Tree Young but not Jalen Johnson. Yeah, that kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's it's one side or the other

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Speaker 2: Be loyal to our guy.

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 4: sure does make sense that way, But this is it's

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Speaker 4: a loyal play here. He is Milwaukee. It would be

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Speaker 3: guys that you're talking about. I mean they're fine players,

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Speaker 3: I'd rather do that than Towns and a bunch of

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Speaker 1: The Hawks and usually a lot of these deals that

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Speaker 2: Of course he is about an alyx. He's around.

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Speaker 4: they have them both. So the Milwaukee Bucks are looking

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Speaker 1: No, nor should they, honestly no.

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Speaker 3: But I mean a Trey Young and Yanis fit is

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Speaker 1: even if it's for Trey Young, the pick is still

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Speaker 3: Your rebuild is on instantly. Yeah, you're on the upward

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Speaker 4: right here, right now and draft picks, and so do

434
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Speaker 4: they even do it even though Trey is a likable guy.

435
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Speaker 4: Here in Atlanta, looks like they're going to just buy

436
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 4: in on Jalen Johnson more so in the near future.

437
00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 4: But Jehanness may not be coming to anywhere but New York.

438
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,439
Speaker 1: I mean those well, that's right, these trades. Sorry, these

439
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: teams like the Atlanta the San Antonios of the world,

440
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: like if they have an awesome package, and the Bucks like, yeah,

441
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: we like that. It's like it's almost a rental potentially

442
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: for you, honest, at that point, like a you don't

443
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: have a lot of years. If he wants to eventually

444
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 1: go somewhere else, they'd have to convince him, no, this

445
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 1: is a place that you can compete for a title.

446
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 1: All right, talk about the Spurs here quickly. They could

447
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 1: do a couple things, right because they have a lot

448
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 1: of young guys. They have a lot of draft picks,

449
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: so they could go by way of the Dylan Harper

450
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 1: of it. All right, that's the juicy, super talented guard

451
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 1: that the Bucks could build around. Devin Masel, Keldon Johnson

452
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 1: could be in there, and then future first round picks.

453
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Speaker 1: There's a twenty seven one by way of the Hawks.

454
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 1: There's you know, there's a lot that they could pick

455
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: from twenty nine, thirty two and all that stuff, or

456
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Speaker 1: you go Castle as the main guy in this potential trade.

457
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Speaker 1: Spurs keep Harper, they keep Fox, they keep Wemby and

458
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 1: then they have Gi. Honest, there that's four really good

459
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: guys and Castle and then Barnes and Kelly Linnok and

460
00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of draft capital would go back to the Bucks. Yeah,

461
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: I guess you have a preference. Who do you want

462
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 1: Dylan Harper If your Milwaukee, of course it's Stephan Castle. Yeah,

463
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: that's a that's a juicier deal. But are the Spurs

464
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: doing that? Maybe?

465
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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's interesting to think about Joannis and

466
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 3: Wemby is scary and to imagine as a front court.

467
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 3: I will say both guys got hurt this season and

468
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: last season, kind of freak injuries for Wemby, but it

469
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 3: accelerates their timeline. It becomes win now when the Spurs

470
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 3: are in Like, it would be nice to win now,

471
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 3: but we're trying to win in two years at this moment.

472
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: The thing that's nice for San Antonio, though, is that

473
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Speaker 3: they do have picks that they can trade that aren't

474
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 3: their picks. Like they've got a King's pick that's going

475
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: to be nice in what twenty thirty one something like that,

476
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 3: I do believe, so they can trade away some of

477
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 3: their future stuff and still keep their stuff. I mean,

478
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 3: it's likely to be picked in the back ten of

479
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Speaker 3: the first round, but at least you still have a

480
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 3: first rounder to acquire somebody to go around these two guys.

481
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: But if I'm Milwaukee, I would have to get Dylan

482
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: Harper back in the trade. That would be like my

483
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 3: shakela just Alexander Piece coming from the Clippers to the

484
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: thunder Castle's nice, But Harper seems more like a number

485
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 3: one guy, and I think that that's something they should

486
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: be targeting if they're trying to get a young guy.

487
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dylan Arper is the guy. If Milwaukee's making this deal.

488
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: It is interesting what the Spurs are thinking. Are they

489
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 4: just going to say, hey, we're trying to stay young

490
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 4: and see what we got as much as possible.

491
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Speaker 2: But they do have good picks.

492
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Speaker 4: It is the King's pick in thirty one, And from

493
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 4: the Bucks perspective, you don't want Spurs picks the next

494
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 4: five years because you assume they're going to be good.

495
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 4: You know, ideally you want other picks.

496
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Speaker 1: The Warriors, they always come up in any sort of

497
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: big game hunting here now for them to make a

498
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: move for your honest and their brother is brother Draymond

499
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: Green's contract likely would have to be moved. So Green

500
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: coaminga buddy healed, and they do have first round picks.

501
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: It ain't happening.

502
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: Ain't happening.

503
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: They don't have enough talent wise, Okay.

504
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you're like at that point, you're going, Wow,

505
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: Kminga's the guy to lead us to the next Promised land.

506
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: And then these future like the only good thing about

507
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: the Warriors picks would be those picks in the future

508
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: might actually be good picks because Korey would be done.

509
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Who knows where Yannis is at that point, Like they're old,

510
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: so maybe they'd be very bad during that era. That

511
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: would be the only thing. But I'm with you, I

512
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: think it's very unlikely. But I had to bring them

513
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: up because I've seen him photoshopped into a war Oh yeah,

514
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: you have ye.

515
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 3: Warriors have been chasing Janis basically since he signed his

516
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 3: last contract with the Bucks. They thought he could be

517
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: the guy. They couldn't wait that long, so they had

518
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: to do the Jimmy Butler deal, which hurt some of

519
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: their trade packages going forward. I think it's unlikely Golden

520
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: State would trade Draymond Green, and I think it's unlikely

521
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: that Milwaukee would want him as the centerpiece. If they

522
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 3: really want Kaminga trade one of those picks from twenty

523
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: thirty one, you can get him, I think for a

524
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 3: pick like.

525
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: That, right, and then the Lakers they always come up to.

526
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: But I mean, yes, unless Austin Reeves was in a deal,

527
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: because then that's a little interesting. But like, what else

528
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: do they have to really trade? Really, Vanderbilt, your guy Gabe,

529
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: Vincent Kleiba, Dalton connect, Like they would have to just

530
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: put a bunch of guys together. They have a bunch

531
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: of pick swaps, they have a twenty thirty one first

532
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: round pick, but not a lot of draft capital. I

533
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: think very unlikely too, And the less Austin Reeves is

534
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: a part of this, which I don't know. If the

535
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: Lakers were with right now, with where they are, would

536
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: they say yeah, I think they would, I do yeah,

537
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: why not? I think it'd be like, yeah, Luca and Jannis,

538
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: yeah we're the Lakers, We'll make it work. But outside

539
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: of that, there's not a lot.

540
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 4: No Austin Reeves would have to be required. I do

541
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 4: think from the Milwaukee box perspective and looking at Yanis

542
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: and what he said when Luca was dealt, he did say,

543
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: I want Luca to the Lakers, I want Yoka to

544
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: the Knicks. I want all the Europeans to go to

545
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: the big markets. So it sounds like it sounds like

546
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 4: Yannis wontn't be mad, although that's a long trip from

547
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 4: LA to Greece.

548
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not to get all personally about that.

549
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: You got to add those four or five hours if

550
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: you go.

551
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: West, that's many hours.

552
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: It's already a long flight though it doesn't matter.

553
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, what do the Bucks give to Jannis in

554
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 4: terms of what he wants? As trade brought up earlier,

555
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 4: what kind of connection do they have? Is it you

556
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 4: can go to the market you want to go to.

557
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 4: I don't think it's just because it's direct from Greece.

558
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 4: Isn't that what the Kevin O'Connor research was. Directly, there's

559
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 4: direct flights from the New York area to Greece. He's

560
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: got to do it. Yeah, it's it's not about that

561
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 4: for Yannis. It's about loyalty and about basketball first. And

562
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: I think that's why this early in the season he's

563
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 4: asking the front office, I gave you a championship, make

564
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: another trade, do it one more time? And I know

565
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 4: it was literally a couple months ago they traded or

566
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 4: released Dame and were able to go get Miles Turner.

567
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: But one more time, one more time, man, one more time.

568
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's about loyalty. Number one with a

569
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: bullet anymore for you. Honest, it's about I want to

570
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: win another title. He's made that very clear. Yeah, very clear.

571
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: He's literally said I want a second championship.

572
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, from what can happen here?

573
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 4: I mean for both perspectives, even from the Bucks perspective.

574
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 4: This guy gave everything to us. There might be a

575
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: better trade in Atlanta. Sure, trade them to Atlanta, Trade

576
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: him to the dan Forth and the Raptors, who didn't

577
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 4: even get into a Raptors possibility. There could be more

578
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 4: and better picks, especially the Hawks. The Hawks one is

579
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: the one, but maybe they're loyal to him.

580
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 1: In a loaded twenty six draft class, you could it

581
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: could happen where you hit like two of those amazing

582
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: guys yep, and then you're like, okay, we're off and running,

583
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: restarting our franchise.

584
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, but but and having like the Dame stretched contract,

585
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter then because two of your top players

586
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: would be one rookie deals. Like, it's fun to be

587
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 3: a fan of a team that has young players that

588
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: are good as well, Like, that's a good way to

589
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: move into a new era is to instantly have guys

590
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: that are excited to watch. I think the Laker's got

591
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: to be a contender here though, Like they would trade

592
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: Austin Reeves for sure. Are you telling me they could

593
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 3: turn Lebron and ad into Luca and yeah within a year,

594
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: come on, Yeah, Lebron's almost done and this would be

595
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: Yanna's stepping into the veteran role. They would be contenders

596
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: right away. It would make their defense better right away.

597
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: And people who moved to LA tend to like staying

598
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: in LA.

599
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

600
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: So on October first, twenty twenty six, Giannis will be

601
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: eligible for a four year, two hundred and seventy five

602
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: million dollars maxed max contract extension and he'll be able

603
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: to sign that same deal with another team six months.

604
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: I think it is after the trade if he has moved.

605
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: Point is he's going to be signing in theory, another

606
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: max to seventy five type deal here. Probably. Maybe I'm

607
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna say his last one of his career, like super Max.

608
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: Who knows, but he said he's only turning thirty one.

609
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: Seems older. It's been around forever.

610
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's only turned thirty one, and somehow the injuries

611
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: catch up to him in the postseason. But he does

612
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: play a lot of games in the regular season. He

613
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: just sits on last year sixty seven, the year before

614
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: seventy three, year before sixty three, sixty seven, sixty he

615
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: wont sixty three, seventy two, seventy five, eighty. So they

616
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 4: are dropping down, but he is. He's still worthy of

617
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 4: a MAX. Of course, it's honest.

618
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: A comment I read last night stuck with me. It

619
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: goes quote, if you told Bucks fans back when they

620
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: drafted you, honest that this guy would make the Bucks

621
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: relevant for a decade, on the national seede title contenders

622
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 1: for a number of years and bring a championship to Milwaukee,

623
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: but the ending could get messy and nasty, maybe a

624
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: little contentious, and he would be traded. One hundred percent

625
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: of them would be psyched about it. Still, Oh yeah,

626
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: you take it right. I mean, like, so, I think

627
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people like they feel bad for Bucks

628
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: fans here, maybe today, over the last couple of weeks

629
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: or wherever this goes, and I get that, like he's

630
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: your franchise. He won you a title, though, and it's

631
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 1: like this happens more times than not where it doesn't

632
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: end like Kobe with the Lakers, or it doesn't end

633
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: like Dirk with the Mass where you just get that

634
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: entire career. It's just like it doesn't happen a lot.

635
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Steph is going to Golden State.

636
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: Who knows still, But the point is they won a championship.

637
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: It worked.

638
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: It worked.

639
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: Are bad because they're endings. Yeah, if it was all good,

640
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: it wouldn't end.

641
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: That's right.

642
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan played for the Wizards. Oh, if Michael Jordan

643
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: can lead the Chicago Bulls because the team decides they're

644
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: done winning championships, then Jannis can be traded after winning

645
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: a championship. He was awesome. He's the best Buck that's

646
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: ever lived, unless you consider Kreem Abdul Jabbar what he

647
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: did back in the seventies as well.

648
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: At the same time, the trade for Drew Holiday that

649
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: we all were speculative about when it happened. Will this

650
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: work for the Milwaukee Bucks many draft picks for Drew Holiday.

651
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: At this perspective from the Bucks is we got to pick,

652
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: we got lots of money. Maybe we can find somebody

653
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: like that to help remedy us in this year of

654
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five when we got a shot at winning

655
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: an Eastern Conference. I know It doesn't seem great right now,

656
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: but it was a hell of a lot better a

657
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 4: few weeks ago when they were rolling and Yannis was healthy.

658
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 4: They could they could just make that move.

659
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: Well, we know how tasks is voting here in this

660
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: poll that we have up on YouTube. Do you think

661
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: Giannis finishes this season with the Bucks? Task clicked Yes,

662
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: I assume people have fifty say no. But I said

663
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: this season.

664
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Speaker 4: The injury is somewhat of a factor. If he's out

665
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: three months, this team is bad. He may not be

666
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: a playoff team.

667
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: So you think it's more likely than he's done.

668
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: I think so, which is weird to say.

669
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: But because you're saying, then the Milwaukee Bucks say, Okay,

670
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: we are not winning at all. No matter any move

671
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: we make is not going to work because he's out

672
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: for a couple months. I don't know. We'll find out

673
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: here today. Hopefully it's nothing serious.

674
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 2: It didn't see mess serious.

675
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the game then, briefly, what do

676
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: you think of the injury? TK? Again, non contact injury

677
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: it seemed to be though then Doc Rivers said, well,

678
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: he sort of got bumped before he turned and came back.

679
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, he is a doctor, what do you

680
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: think TK?

681
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: I mean, of course it's bad. He wasn't doing anything.

682
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: He's just running the same thing happened in the playoffs.

683
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: He was just running right underneath the hoop, exact same thing.

684
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know how that affects his trade value.

685
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: I don't think the team that tradesforum is going to

686
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: care that he's heard except for that. Like, he missed

687
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: some games. Basically since he started in twenty five, he's

688
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: missing fifteen games a season, right, that's just how it is.

689
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: He's gonna miss more this year, it turns out. But uh,

690
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: anytime a guy just starts running and crumples, it's a disaster,

691
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: right Like, it feels bad and then the vampire doctor

692
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: Bryan Souder comes out. I never see that guy when

693
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: things are going good. I can't know what I'm saying.

694
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: I didn't like it.

695
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: He was wearing black and red last night, I'll tell

696
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: you that much. But of course I watched it. Yeah,

697
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: you're never turning into doctor Brian when people are healthy. No,

698
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: only when the soliest is popping and the gas struck.

699
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: Watch that gas trock. But he didn't think it was

700
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: all that serious. No, And they can do a test

701
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: right away to see if it's an achilles. So it's

702
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: probably not an Achilles' injury, which you know, that's the

703
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: biggest question mark when a guy goes down and starts

704
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 3: looking at his feet.

705
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

706
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he started talking about other injuries. It wasn't

707
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 4: so bleak. He started talking about what was he talking about?

708
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: I tuned out because I just want to hear about Jennis.

709
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: But he started talking about on Gardener. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

710
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: because there wasn't much.

711
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: That's usually the look back that you think you've been

712
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: kicked when it's your achilles.

713
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: Yes.

714
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, seeing people on the basketball court do that exact

715
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: thing like did you just kick me? And you're like, no, oh,

716
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: that's not good. But he didn't do that.

717
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: No, he did not do that. And listen, we gotta

718
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: we got to learn more about these injuries. So we're

719
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: going to have a doctor on Tuesday show. I don't

720
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: know if it's Brian Soon or it's a weird pronunciation

721
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 4: suit or it looks like a sutter. Anyway, we're going

722
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: to have one to learn more about just the general

723
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: NBA injuries overall. But he didn't seem too bleak at all,

724
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: just because he is very familiar with every sport and

725
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: the look back and this one was fall down, controlling,

726
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: be totally supportive of my own weight, walking off the

727
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 4: floor and walking into the locker room.

728
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: No one was caring the dude.

729
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: That's true. And he's also like even the Bucks like

730
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: medical team, they weren't like they were just like didn't even.

731
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: Look at it.

732
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were barely looking at it. He's like just sore,

733
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: like I mean, I strained it probably, so hopefully nothing

734
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: severe here. We'll find out maybe an hour's after the

735
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: MRI to the extreme, but.

736
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Speaker 3: They'll be very careful with them.

737
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it could be like the one in the

738
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: postseason that kept him out. It's a week, right, or like, yeah,

739
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: maybe I'm wrong it was in.

740
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: The twenty four playoffs.

741
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: Did he come back to the twenty four playoffs.

742
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: Bounced before then?

743
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 4: Anyways, it could be a soleius none anyway, it doesn't

744
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: seem like it's extremely long.

745
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: I think that's why we've completely jiged it now.

746
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: That's possibly. Yeah, it never came back and twenty four.

747
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and last year he was dealing with I thought

748
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: you were freninged last year the twenty five playoffs when

749
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 4: he was dealing with another one he gets injured.

750
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: All right, Anything about the game itself, I mean the

751
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: Bucks did. Yeah, Jarko Sims with a monster game, everybody contributing,

752
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: especially when Johns left like three minutes into this game.

753
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I said that, but yeah, any

754
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: thoughts on the game.

755
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: I am always optimistic when I see a guy perform

756
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: like Jericho Simms, but even I can't be the oh,

757
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: you can't trade that guy.

758
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: That guy is phenomenal.

759
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 4: Fifteen points fourteen rebounds, both season highs by far, because

760
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: Doc Rivers doesn't trust the guy entirely to play a

761
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 4: lot of minutes, but he came in and he had

762
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: a huge offensive rebound. I was more impressed with guys

763
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: like Adrian Green stepping up and as I said, Kevin

764
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: Porter Junior has only played four games this year. The

765
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 4: last three he's been balling. The great thing about Kevin

766
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: Porter Junior this season, which I was very bleak on

767
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: watching him in the playoffs against the Pacers as their

768
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 4: starting point guard, is that Ryan Rollins is the starting

769
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 4: point guard and he is super good. So KPJ can

770
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: play off the ball and just score like he does

771
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: when he's the six man and he's really really good.

772
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 4: Ryan Rollins is a super super confident player. Yeah, and

773
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: he loves him. He's a really good defensive player. And

774
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: kep poor juniors. The last three games is when he

775
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: started playing basketball this season, and he's been really really

776
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 4: good last couple So that's the optimistic part and Dot

777
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 4: going zone. I think that kind of helps. It always

778
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: helps with this team.

779
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: I was also shocked to see that Kate cutting him

780
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: is human. He there that. You know, he's sort of

781
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: been coming through in the clutch time and time again

782
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: here this season. But that one wasn't even close.

783
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: It was.

784
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: It was so bad that Rollins looked back, okay.

785
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: Man two feet that was weird.

786
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 4: So bucks the last three games, right, Kate has been

787
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 4: pretty cold. I think it's the three games he's been

788
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 4: bad from three from deep.

789
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I met more. Taking over at the end of

790
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: games has been but yeah, that one not so much.

791
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's pivot to the other big news from yesterday.

792
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: We learned a little bit more with Chris Paul and

793
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: the Clippers, and then parting ways, talked to Pierre here

794
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: on the show yesterday. The news broke early yesterday morning,

795
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: and then no one was quite sure what the hell

796
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: had happened, right, We're trying to figure it out. Well,

797
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: we got a little more info. CP three had not

798
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: been on speaking terms with coach Tyler who for several weeks.

799
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: That's sort of what led to this decision from Laurence Frank.

800
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: We also did learn like why it happened. I guess

801
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: at three in the morning, why Chris Paul was on

802
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: Instagram sharing like the deuces, I'm out of here. There

803
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: was that huge mechanical plane failure which got the team

804
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: from Miami into Atlanta super late. That pushed everything back. Eventually,

805
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Lawrence Frank had like a three hour meeting with Chris

806
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Paul and it came to this decision. So the biggest

807
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: takeaway from yesterday's reporting though, is just like they just

808
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: get tired of this guy, really right, exactly like Tyler

809
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: was refusing to meet with Chris Paul. I don't want

810
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: to hear it, man. So that's what that's the new

811
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: news from this Still weird. It's still bizarre. The whole thing.

812
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that he's butting heads with people not surprising. It's

813
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 4: Chris Paul happened many a time, an.

814
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: Outspoken leader, stubborn leader.

815
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Yes.

816
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: Yes, the fact that Lawrence Frank met with him for

817
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 4: multiple hours and they had this discussion, they both basically

818
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: came to an agreement. It sure feels like rather than hey,

819
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: we're cutting you get out of here, I just want

820
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 4: to I just flew to Atlanta, why the delays to

821
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 4: meet you face to face? It was beyond that. It

822
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: was more like, we don't want to release you, but

823
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 4: there's some sort of crash.

824
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: Are you even gonna cut this crap out and stop

825
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: complaining about everything? Okay, well we.

826
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 4: Have to let you go then, right, Yeah, And yeah

827
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 4: they had they had to let him go. We've seen

828
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: it when he left Houston with James Harden and that

829
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: they moved on after the seventeen eight or the nineteen

830
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 4: they traded him to Okay, see after the whole hardened effect.

831
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 4: But it wasn't the first conversation that Lawrence Frank, apparently,

832
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: as he told the media, had had with Chris Paul.

833
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 4: They had a conversation other times about the locker room.

834
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: And so I don't blame this on TYLERU even Chris

835
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 4: Haynes's report, I don't blame it on Tyler Lou.

836
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: Why Why wouldn't Tyler meet with him? Because reports say

837
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: Chris Paul requested a meeting with TYLERU a couple of

838
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: weeks ago to discuss internal rumors about how he was

839
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: a negative presence on the team. It's pretty obvious that

840
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: that was being said. It found its way to Chris Paul.

841
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: Chris Paul didn't like that we also suck, So I'm

842
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: going to keep saying we suck and we should be

843
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: playing this way. And then now I want to meet

844
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: with you, coach, and he wouldn't even meet with him.

845
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's what happened. I'm sure Chris Haynes's report

846
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 4: is correct and that he didn't want to meet him.

847
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 4: But I don't know all the details. Maybe they met,

848
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: maybe they talked. I don't think Tyler just says, ah,

849
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 4: there's a force field, you cannot come meet me. I

850
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: think they've had a conversation before, so I don't I

851
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 4: just don't see all the details, all the factors. Again,

852
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: Lawrence Frank meeting with him four hours, not just saying

853
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 4: shake hands goodbye, Chris.

854
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't that. It was more than that, but anyway, yeah.

855
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: Longer conversation. But basically they signed Chris Paul and got

856
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: mad that he started acting like Chris Paul right, so

857
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 3: like he's probably right, and Tyler and Lawrence Frank are like,

858
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear it.

859
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we suck. Yeah, you're not helping. If they're

860
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 4: five hundred, this doesn't happen. No, right, it doesn't.

861
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: It's they were garbage and Chris Paul, I'm sure we know,

862
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: we know this is not it's not a secret obviously

863
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: how grating he maybe could be. And it's like one

864
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: thing when you're the point god and you're going out

865
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: there and giving us, you know, twenty five and ten

866
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: every night. Yeah, we'll take the criticism or we'll take

867
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: your guidance and all that. It's probably another thing when

868
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: the guy barely plays and when he does play, you know,

869
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: can't hit a shot to save his life. Like I

870
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: get that where it would be a little annoying. Yeah,

871
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: but he is trying in theory to help your team here.

872
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: And I think a part of this too is having

873
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: like this veteran coaching group too, Like it's TYLERU, it's

874
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: Jeffvan Gundy, it's Brian Shaw, it's Larry Drew, it's guys

875
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: that have been around the block for a while, and

876
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: I think they're like, your your critiques are a grading criticisms, Okay,

877
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: like you're just talking and we know we got these injuries,

878
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: we're trying this. I think they just obviously they're just

879
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: frustrated with them. But it is strange to me that

880
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: Tyler doesn't want to meet with like he is Duckingham.

881
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: That is weird.

882
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: That's weird.

883
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm in it.

884
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: If i'm I would speculate that they had met before

885
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: Chris Paul maybe said I got to start or something.

886
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm speculating, but there was probably I would

887
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 4: assume Tyler gave Chris Paul the time to say, this

888
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 4: is what we're doing, Chris, this is how we're going

889
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 4: about it, and then Chris demands a meeting to change

890
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 4: to say what he needs to say to probably change

891
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: things in his perspective as a coach. Chris Paul wants

892
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 4: to be a coach. I imagine he probably wants to change things.

893
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: And Tyler said, we already talked about that.

894
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: I wait, we talked about this before we brought you

895
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: back for the farewell tour. Because they sort of made

896
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: a clear Remember when they brought Chris Paul back. It's like,

897
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: all right, Chris, you're not gonna be starting all eighty

898
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: two games like you did for the Spurs.

899
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: Here.

900
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little different right on saw He

901
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: seemed to agree to that.

902
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so that's why I backed Tylo to some degree,

903
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: because they did want to make this a farewell tour,

904
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: and you're not starting like you did with Wemby last year.

905
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 4: We heard your interview. You're saying you got one more year.

906
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: Steve Bummer said, all right, that's good. I'm going to

907
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: be speculated about circumventing the salary cap.

908
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: This would be good to have.

909
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: But yeah, it just sucks that they weren't eleven and

910
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 4: ten or something way better, way better than five and sixteen.

911
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: Just before this great game that they had yesterday here

912
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: in Atlanta.

913
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: They bounced back. They got rid of Chris Paul and

914
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: they bounced back.

915
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: Lives were good. It was that tweet little teasers tastes

916
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: so good, but you don't have somebody in your ear

917
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: telling you it's nasty. He's like, look at our team's fun.

918
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 3: Now we can all play. They looked like the Clippers

919
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: were supposed to look this year, Seabots was dominant inside

920
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: the Magic City. Magic was working for James twenty seven

921
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: point start on fire. It was on the fire immediately,

922
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: a big shots when it counted. You know, do Jalen

923
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: Johnson for the Hawks? Not as much offense, I thought,

924
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 3: And that was more of the problem than the Clippers

925
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 3: playing really well. But the Clippers played great. They wanted

926
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: to rub it in Chris Paul's face.

927
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: So is this how Chris Paul's career ends? Or do

928
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: you think he will find his way to another team

929
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: here and then really end his twenty one year career

930
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 1: with another squad? And if so, what is that team?

931
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: I find it difficult to think that he would end

932
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 4: his career like this. I think somebody will bring him around.

933
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 4: It's a team that needs a voice and needs help.

934
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 4: I don't hate the Minnesota idea, don't hate it. I

935
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 4: know my butt heads with men in that locker room

936
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: named Anthony Edwards, Mike Conley to some degree, he can't

937
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: buy he can't anger Mike Conley, but the whole hymn anthem.

938
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I bring up the Minnesota

939
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: Timberwolves because they just don't look like a contender. In

940
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 4: the Western Conference to the level of few teams, so

941
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 4: that would make sense to me. Are there other ones?

942
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

943
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: He's never played farther north than Oklahoma City, I guess maybe. No, Yeah,

944
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: that's the farthest north he's ever played. He's got to

945
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: be in a warm weather city, I.

946
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: Guess, so. I mean, he might just want to stay

947
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: in La. There is another team, Lakers is a possibility

948
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: if they have an open roster spot, but I don't

949
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: think they're allowed to sign him, or they can't sign

950
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: a fifteens player until January, so they'd have to be like, yeah, Chris,

951
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: chill out for a little bit and then maybe we'll

952
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: bring you in. Also, we might try and trade for you. Honest,

953
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: we might have to ship out like four or five guys.

954
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: We might have some So anyway, Lakers makes the most sense,

955
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: just because he probably doesn't want to leave La.

956
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: I'm guessing that was part about going back to the

957
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: Yah his family.

958
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, he says he hasn't had his kids be with

959
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: him for six years and this was awesome. Now it'd

960
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 4: suck to leave him again to go somewhere further north

961
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: than Oklahoma City or whatever.

962
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Orlando like, I don't know how much he helps,

963
00:43:59,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: but yeah.

964
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't hurt.

965
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who really honestly, he's this is never

966
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Well, I don't know. Maybe he really takes

967
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: the coaching thing seriously. The Wizards should get Chris Paul.

968
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: Bub Carrington needs Chris Paul. I would like to see

969
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: that for his career, and that would be if he

970
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: ever did that, that would be a Chris Paul like,

971
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: I am going into coaching. I'll do this again. I'll

972
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: try and get another young guy back on track here,

973
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: but very unlikely. I think he will be on the Lakers,

974
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: is my guess. If it's basically Lebron wants.

975
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: It, but he's buddies with him.

976
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: But he might be one of those buddies that, like,

977
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: I like seeing this guy every once in a while,

978
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to hang out with him

979
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: all the time.

980
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: It's from a long time for Mellow to get to

981
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: LA when everybody they're going to join up right away.

982
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: It did.

983
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: Well, he can't sign there until January. Yeah, yeah, just

984
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: make up another rule. We can't sign until February.

985
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: How about that? Make up another CBA rules so you

986
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: can push.

987
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: You just say, Okay, we'll sign you, but just come

988
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: around once a week. Don't come on road games. Yeah,

989
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: just stay home. You want to be closer family, make

990
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: that agreement.

991
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: And it's hard to say how much he did for

992
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 4: the Spurs last year because the Spurs are the Spurs

993
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: and they have this great organization. But you look at

994
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: everybody in the way they're performing right now. You mentioned

995
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: Bob Carrington as a young guy. He could you know,

996
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 4: put his arm around Stefan Castle. Looks freaking awesome. They

997
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 4: look developed and playing you know, within their skill sets.

998
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, you could be a young team that does it.

999
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: I don't know how much he wants to go to

1000
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: freaking Washington.

1001
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: I am looking at from what I've seen, I don't

1002
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: see him really helping any team on the court. This

1003
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: is to me just maybe to either get a ring,

1004
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: to maybe end his career with that sort of nice

1005
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: button or the idea of helping and coaching and like

1006
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: he's done in okay See, I mean Shaye talking. I

1007
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: know okay See has come up. They're like, can they

1008
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: somehow get them back there and try and win them

1009
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: a ring.

1010
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: He was an All Star.

1011
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: He left James Harden became an All Star again with Okay,

1012
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 4: see he had a good.

1013
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: Year Houston Rockets. Yeah, teach read Shepherd. Yeah, here's how

1014
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: it is to be a little guy out.

1015
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: There, oh, in a locker room with a bunch of

1016
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 4: guys that he could butt heads with but are already

1017
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 4: button heads. Now you know, I'm imagine some of that's

1018
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: happened with me. Yeah, budding heads in a good way,

1019
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: like it a docus button heads with people. Yeah, but anyway, but.

1020
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: Head's in a good way. It's like, yeah, I know

1021
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: what you mean by that.

1022
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a positive, Hey, let's get this done type

1023
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: of thing. Chris paul I could see that, you know.

1024
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: Is it the oh four type pistons again? Uh, like

1025
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 4: that type of a hole with with Chet and Ben

1026
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: Wallace and that type of guy.

1027
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rocket's not bad.

1028
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: Well you said it hard and score twenty seven. They

1029
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: ended their five game skid. The Hawks were brutal. They

1030
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: had no jel and Johnson, They have no tray on.

1031
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: They don't have much chance of like creating any advantages

1032
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: without either of those guys. It was I think Hollinger

1033
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: said it that Atlanta made a tremendous All Star case

1034
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: for Jael and Johnson last night playing and the way

1035
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: they looked. They shot like thirty eight percent from the

1036
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: floor in the first half. They had a lot of turnovers.

1037
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: It was sloppy. But Holinger also was at the game

1038
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: and he showed us those out cast dolls because we

1039
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: were like, what are these things? What are they? Are

1040
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: they bobbleheads or are they plushies or are they like

1041
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: little figurines? And there they are cute. Those are tasks.

1042
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, those look like a crochet knit.

1043
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: They do look like that.

1044
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: What are they plastic?

1045
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: But I think they're plastic plastic, Yeah, I think so.

1046
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: I look at the bod looks like your crochet and

1047
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 4: you look at those feet, they look plasticky.

1048
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just made to look like a

1049
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: crochet doll. But I think they do look sort of cool.

1050
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: No wonder, it's so confusing you know what they are

1051
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: because it's both something. Yeah, they do look cool. Yeah,

1052
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: three would never wear that though. Yeah, you're right, that

1053
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: looks like a big boy outfit. You're right, but uh,

1054
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: andre would be a lot funky from the head to

1055
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: the toe. Yeah.

1056
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they look good, just like the Clippers did last night.

1057
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: And you were right, no, Jen Johnson.

1058
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 4: But the fact that they win a game where they

1059
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 4: shot ten of thirty one from three. It's not like

1060
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: they bombed away and had a great game. And Kawhi

1061
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: was seven of twenty one great vibes with James Harden drive,

1062
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: kick and pass, it looked like a different team out there,

1063
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: twenty nine assists on forty four shots. I heard Kobe Sanders,

1064
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 4: a young player, say that we had a great talk

1065
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: before the game in the locker room. He told the

1066
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 4: Clippers radio guy, play by play man Carlo Simenez this,

1067
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 4: He said, we had it came together, so one game great.

1068
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: Vive's around the Los Angeles.

1069
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Day anthing change.

1070
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1071
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1072
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, they were allowed to play music. We

1073
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: are running along here. But let's get to a big performance.

1074
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Last night. We have to talk about Jamal Murray scoring

1075
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: a season high fifty two points as the Nuggets held

1076
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: off the Pacers. This is two nights after he sprained

1077
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: his right ankle. I think he was like a game

1078
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: time decision whether he was going to go in this one.

1079
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: But Jamal, Jamal Murray delay one of the NBA's most

1080
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: efficient performances ever. Not of the season ever, he made

1081
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: nineteen to twenty five shots. He was ten of eleven

1082
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: from deep, and yeah, the true shooting percentage when you

1083
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: crunch the numbers, Keats had it ninety six percent true

1084
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: shooting percentage last night. Jamal Murray now owns two of

1085
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: the six most efficient fifty point games in NBA history

1086
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: because he had a fifty burger where he shot one

1087
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: hundred true shooting percentage back in twenty twenty one. So

1088
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: an incredible game from Jamal Murray.

1089
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: Incredible game from Jamal Murray. And I actually thought it

1090
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: was going to be yokish that was going for fifty

1091
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: with the way the Pacers were playing him to start

1092
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: this game. They're saying, Jay Huff, see what you can

1093
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 3: do one on one, and the answer was not very much.

1094
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 3: So bought a couple of easy buckets for jokitch and

1095
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: then the Pacers are like, okay, we gotta change something up.

1096
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: They started doubling them, which opened up everybody else on

1097
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: the floor. Murray most of all, fifty two points, and

1098
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 3: it just felt like every time the ball was leaving

1099
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: his fingers it was going to be a pure, pure So.

1100
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, only one hit the front rim and bounced in. Yeah,

1101
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: it was like the only one.

1102
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 3: Pretty nice. And when he starts rolling, he's a great

1103
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: heat check guy. He's ready to get the next shot up,

1104
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: and it went in all the time. Last night, Yokic

1105
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: finished with twenty three and thirteen assists. Five of those

1106
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 3: assists were to Jamal Murray and I was deep in

1107
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: the data. Five screen assists for Yokic as well. I

1108
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: wonder if he ever gets a screen assist and a

1109
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: real assist on the same play with the dribble hands,

1110
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: because that happens all the time. But the two man

1111
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: game between these two, that's like the pinnacle of it.

1112
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: Seventy three points or seventy five points combined from the

1113
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 3: two of them pretty good.

1114
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awesome because, as you said, game time decision

1115
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 4: because he was hurt the previous game, and then to

1116
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: see him come out there, it looked like it was

1117
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 4: the Yokich night because he had Huff huffin. He was

1118
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: just going by Huff and Jamal Murray. As you said,

1119
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 4: he got that front roll on that one to three,

1120
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: that's when he started blowing his hand. That was the

1121
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 4: heat check, right literally, the heat check. My hand is

1122
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 4: on fire and the true shooting perc Engine this game

1123
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 4: and overall his career, this is the most efficient season

1124
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 4: at sixty three point four percent true shooting. He looks

1125
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 4: like a great player, nearly twenty five points per game.

1126
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 4: This is definitely his first All Star appearance. If he

1127
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: keeps this sucks and his shots have hit a career

1128
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 4: in high in terms of shots per game. And to

1129
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 4: see him a career high with ten threes, awesome season

1130
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: for him.

1131
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: Uh guffrin, Allie, I don't know if I'm saying that correctly.

1132
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: On Substack asked who has the most fifty point games

1133
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: all time without ever being an All Star? So I

1134
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: looked it up. It is now Jamal Murray by himself.

1135
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: He's done it five times in his career if we

1136
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: count the playoffs. He will probably make an All Star

1137
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: Game this season, I think, rightfully. So. The only other

1138
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: guy to do it four times and not make an

1139
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: All Star game Jamal Crawford bingo four different teams. That's

1140
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: exactly right.

1141
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 2: Nice one.

1142
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: Got some more stats for you here, This one from Statitudes.

1143
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray matched the highest three point field goal percentage

1144
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: in NBA history by a player to make at least

1145
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: ten threes in a game shares the record here of

1146
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: ninety point nine percent from deep on at least ten

1147
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: made threes in a game. Can you name the other

1148
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: four guys? One guy did it this year.

1149
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon.

1150
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon did it in early October or at the

1151
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: start of the season.

1152
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: I should say one. Is that game one?

1153
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1154
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: Maybe game one?

1155
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: I think October twenty third. That sounds like one three. Yeah,

1156
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: I guess it could have been SI game anyway, he's

1157
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: one of them. Can you give me the other three names? One?

1158
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: Say it again? Fifty?

1159
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm looking for shooting basically ninety one percent

1160
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: from deep when you hit ten Threesla clay is one

1161
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.

1162
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: Nice this guy think Curry is there?

1163
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: Actually?

1164
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: Nope? Nope, we got a we got a white guy

1165
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: that still plays in the league now, Nope. He's sort

1166
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: of like a corver though. This guy, he's a worse

1167
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: corver in my opinion.

1168
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: Oh a disc, you're gonna diss this guy.

1169
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: This guy's definitely a worst ques.

1170
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 2: No. No, he's older than aj Green.

1171
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: Trying to think of some old Kyles, My old Kyle's

1172
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 3: Duncan Robinson.

1173
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: No, Oh, smaller smaller version of Duncan rounds. It sounds

1174
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: like a duck. Luke Canard, there you go. I was

1175
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: going to get there. I was sure, did it? And

1176
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: then I think I mentioned this guy's name.

1177
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: I did.

1178
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: Well. We talked Danilo Gallinario yesterday show. I mentioned this guy.

1179
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: What did he play with the Denver with Gallinari? Yes,

1180
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: he did, and I said it. I said, oh, he

1181
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: got injured to that year that Gallinari tore his a

1182
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: c O. It's weird.

1183
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: This guy went.

1184
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: On. I think I remember podcasting with you twenty eleven.

1185
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: He did it. It was at the end of the year.

1186
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: So there you go. Jamal Murray, Ty Lawson, Klay Thompson,

1187
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: Luke Canard, the Duck himself, and Aaron Gordon guys to

1188
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: hit at least ten threes in the game and have

1189
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: a very high three point percentage. Also one more because

1190
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: this is fun. He's the third different player Murray is

1191
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: to score a fifty point game for the Nuggets this season.

1192
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: You got Aaron Gordon, you got Yo Kich and now

1193
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: you got Jamal Murray. Only two other teams in NBA

1194
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: history have had three such guys in a single season.

1195
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: Do it The sixty one sixty two Lakers. Oh yeah, yeah,

1196
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: for sure, you'll never name the third guy on that

1197
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: team to do it, because you got Elgin Baylor, you

1198
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: got Jerry West, and you'll never ever ever name Rudy

1199
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: LaRusso what name? And then this one's not a shock.

1200
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: The eighteen nineteen Golden State Warriors Clay Steph and Kevin Durant.

1201
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 3: That's a good team, A pretty good team. Didn't win

1202
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 3: the championship though, I remember.

1203
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: That, that's right.

1204
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: Murray though, was in such a groove. Did you see

1205
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: this during this game? Such a groove. He's signing autographs

1206
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: mid game. What there's like somebody that I think in

1207
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: a Nuggets jersey on the baseline and it just goes

1208
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: over signed something for them. Well, the game's not like

1209
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: while play was happening, but like a dead ball situation. Yeah,

1210
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: that's when you know your f I always feeling it. Yeah.

1211
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: The other game of note last night because it ended

1212
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: in style, Luke Cornett blocking Franz Wagner's last second sort

1213
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: of little layup hook shot attempt as the Spurs hold

1214
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: off the Magic one fourteen one twelve TK. Luke Cornet

1215
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: the opposite of Chris Paul all good vibes. He's only

1216
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: good vibes. This guy's got great vibes everywhere he goes.

1217
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 3: Since moving into the starting lineup with Victor Wembanyama's injury,

1218
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: the Spurs are seven and two. So I know what

1219
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: you're thinking. Are the Spurs better without Victor? Is it

1220
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 3: time to move on from Victor Wembanyama. I don't think so.

1221
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: But some nice wins for the Spurs during this downtime.

1222
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: They beat the Magic last night. They also got to

1223
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: win against Nuggets, got to win against the Hawks. They

1224
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: beat some lesser teams as well. But they're looking good

1225
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 3: and Cornet is just a nice fill in piece for vic.

1226
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: I thought the four assists were pretty good from the

1227
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: cornet as well, making plays out of the short role.

1228
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 3: Darren Fox has also been really great since when Banyama

1229
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 3: went down twenty seven a game, six assists, forty nine

1230
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 3: from the field, forty from three, hitting a lot of

1231
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 3: big shots, including in this one. So anytime the Spurs

1232
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 3: are winning without their number one guy, I'm impressed. And

1233
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 3: they've done it pretty regularly and against good competition.

1234
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1235
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 4: Excited to see Stefan Castle and Wemby come back they're

1236
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 4: on a road trip. There was some talk, some rumors

1237
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 4: that maybe that both those guys will be on this

1238
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 4: road trip and be able to play against the Los

1239
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 4: Angeles Lakers in the NBA Cup quarter final next week.

1240
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: That's still not still a week away, but yeah.

1241
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, six days away, it's still a possibility. Mitch Johnson,

1242
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 4: the guy's going to get some Coach of the Year votes.

1243
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 4: Was asked about it. He played it off. He said, Luckily, I.

1244
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: Don't have to deal with that. They just automatically.

1245
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: Cornet, baby, you think I need to worry about that?

1246
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

1247
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: The French Horn, Wemby and Louke Cornett, the combination we like.

1248
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: It's easy to have fun with Louke Cornette. It was

1249
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: a hell of a block.

1250
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great block.

1251
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: Thunderscoring. I mean he's right there. Yeah, it was a

1252
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: nice play call. Yeah, got him a shot. There was

1253
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: a good look. It was a hell of a play call,

1254
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: right because it was a backpit and all that, and

1255
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: uh he came like Luke Whnick came screaming from the

1256
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: three point line, like great awareness of obviously time and

1257
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: all that. I could leave this guy. It's not going

1258
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: back to my guy and just like and then didn't

1259
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: hit him as he went flying by, and then he

1260
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: dropped like a usine bolt like as he streamed.

1261
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had that smile going for like eight seconds.

1262
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: She so funny.

1263
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Spur is absolutely cooking now. Dylan Harper, as

1264
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 4: we talked about Esshtrom, just watched his pace of play.

1265
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: Just how slow and comfortable he looks while obviously being

1266
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 4: super fast. Looks awesome. And we didn't talk about Carter Bryant.

1267
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 4: That's how good this team is. They're so deep, guys

1268
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 4: like Carter Bryant, who's going to be their their wing defender.

1269
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: He got into it a little bit with Wendell Carter

1270
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 4: in this game. That's how confident this team is. And

1271
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 4: that's why this team is scary. In the Western Conference

1272
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 4: song as Wemby in the Castle come Back, especially Wemby.

1273
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: Obviously, Yeah, there was some uh I was gonna call

1274
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: him controversial, but they really weren't awls at the end

1275
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: of this game. One resulted in free throws for the

1276
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: Spurs to sort of get them or no the other

1277
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: way around, for the Magic to get back in the game.

1278
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: Franz Vagner hit all three three of his free throws,

1279
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: and then on the other end, it was Darren Fox

1280
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: sort of in isolation and he sort of fumbles the

1281
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: ball and then so Jonathan Isaac comes over and is

1282
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: trying to prevent obviously an easy shot attempt from Fox,

1283
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: but he like puts his arm in there because I

1284
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: think because the ball sort of got like loose from

1285
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: Fox for a second, he thought he might be able

1286
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: to go for it. But then anyway his arm got

1287
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: caught in on Fox and that resulted in free throws.

1288
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: He hit those two, and then we got to that

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Speaker 1: game saving block, but I thought it was it was

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Speaker 1: a foul.

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00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: I thought. So it was a lot lot of chest,

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00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: a lot of chest going on there from Jonathan Isaac.

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00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: I did like the little boosty though that the magic

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00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: got from Jace Richardson eight points, five rebounds to assist.

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00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: He's had a couple of nice games in a row

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Speaker 3: coming off the bench for them, giving us some athleticism.

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Speaker 3: But he looks tiny. It's crazy that he's Jason Richardson's son. Yeah,

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00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: he looks a big dude, quite slight, and Jason Richardson

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 3: was like a a muscle dunker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a.

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00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: Character that doesn't exist in the NBA right now. Just

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00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: like a stronger, real strong girl, Yeah, with like jacked muscles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who would be like the closest to that, Like

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00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: even the Edwards is, yes, pretty jack, he is like

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00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: not to that level.

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00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah as a guard.

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00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, does mean bane sort of? Maybe because his arms

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00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: are mules for sure?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Do you think Franz Wagner should have not collected himself

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Speaker 4: and just sort of value and threw it up there?

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00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: I know we could say that now because a second

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: and a half I think it was. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: probably he probably had to. I kept watching it. That

1316
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: is it your mistake? Was it your?

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00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: But Champari did a good job to stay in the

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00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 3: play even though he was beat Like, he kept hustling

1319
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: enough that Wagner had to pivot with gave Cornette enough

1320
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Speaker 3: time to make a good play.

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Speaker 2: Great play.

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Speaker 1: And then just there was other games last night, but

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00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: we've gone way too long. But the MAVs beat the

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00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: Heat like a Porter junior, big game against your bulls.

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00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: That's a tough loss for them. The Knicks did great.

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00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: They beat the hornets of the the Blazers really good

1327
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: win over the Calves. That's another eye opening loss for Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: They had Mitchell, they had Mobiley bad Garland, and then

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01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: the Rockets crushed the Kings. So we'll have to leave

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Speaker 1: it at that right now because we got to hit

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Speaker 3: feels early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it doesn't yet.

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Speaker 3: It feels like we played ten games. We played like,

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Speaker 3: you know, twenty.

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Speaker 1: Twenty plus at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're on the beach.

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Speaker 1: Keep your emails coming, keep your comments coming in the

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Speaker 1: YouTube section below all that good stuff. We'll move with

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Speaker 1: some pace here at first. One from Rohan in Melbourne, Australia.

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Speaker 1: I've been tuning in since twenty thirteen, and every year

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01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: I marvel at Tass's optimism for his beloved Toronto Raptors

1373
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: when everyone's tipping it down here, he's got faith of

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01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: at least a five hundred year and it made me

1375
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: think even a broken even a broken clock is right

1376
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: twice a day. When's a time when you've been when

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01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: you've been stuck to your guns with an opinion, been

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01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: wrong several times, but eventually it's come back around to

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01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: being right again.

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01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: Rohan, I think you're wrong.

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 4: I think you look back in twenty twenty two, the

1382
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 4: Raptors had been over on their over under total total

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01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 4: in ten of the previous eleven years. So I ain't

1384
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 4: no broken clock. I'm just right all the time. I

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 4: hope I was right. I hope I picked him. I

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01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 4: didn't go back and check. Although, listen, I've been wrong,

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 4: and since twenty twenty two, I made a couple overpicks,

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01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 4: that's for sure. But this year it's paying off, Rohan.

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01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 4: This year it is correct. So anyway, thanks for the

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01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 4: thanks for the email.

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01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: That's all I got.

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01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: Do you have an answer my Jimmy Butler Paul George

1393
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: take aged beautifully. I think when I was saying Jimmy

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01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 3: Butler was better than Paul George, Paul George is probably

1395
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 3: actually better. Back then, he certainly had a higher profile

1396
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: as the Derreck Rose injury kind of took the Bowls

1397
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: out of any sort of contention in the Eastern Conference,

1398
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 3: the Pacers ascended. Paul George was an MVP candidate when

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01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: he went to the Thunder, and you know, people had

1400
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 3: high hopes for him when he went to the Clippers.

1401
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 3: But once Jimmy Butler got to Miami, basically the Tides

1402
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 3: completely turned. Took them to the finals two times. And

1403
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: I think at this point people would agree with me

1404
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler over Paul George.

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01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: Mine's pretty obvious answer. You probably know where I'm going.

1406
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, I told Tray Kirby specifically all Star

1407
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: Season from Shake GUILDEOS Alexander Loading. Unfortunately, no, he didn't

1408
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: play a lot that season. Twenty twenty one, I told

1409
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: Trey Kirby all Star Season from Shake Guildeus Alexander Loading. No, Nope,

1410
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: getting closer though, putting up some points. He was in

1411
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: the consideration. And then twenty twenty two three I said

1412
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: it once again and he became an All Star. He

1413
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: became a first team All NBA player, He became a

1414
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: top five MVP candidate and then would be a runner

1415
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: up to m v P and then eventual winner. So

1416
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 1: you know, I was on the SGA train pretty early.

1417
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: You were, and I was saying this guy something. He's

1418
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: from the hammer and the hammer it's different. There's a

1419
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: big hill you gotta go up and down.

1420
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: So he has such good fitness.

1421
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: That's right.

1422
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: You also just loved Kentucky guards.

1423
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: I do love my Kentucky guarts, my Jamal Murray's, my

1424
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: Tyres Maxis, Devin Buck. I do. There's a lot of them.

1425
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: Your hero not so much, Darren Fox. Thank you. Yeah,

1426
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know why I never really fell in love

1427
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: with hero plays a little differently. What's that I'm racist?

1428
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: I guess that's true.

1429
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 3: Here's something I'm wondering if I'll ever be right about again.

1430
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 3: I like mock turtlenecks. You know, I get not a

1431
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 3: full fold over turtleneck, but the one that just goes

1432
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 3: a little bit up, maybe covers that out. I've been

1433
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 3: in on mock turtle neck since the nineteen nineties. For

1434
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: a long time, it was only me, my dad and

1435
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 3: Stan Band Gundy. I don't even think stand band Gundy

1436
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: is still. But I wonder if it'll ever turn to

1437
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: where people agree because it's been a it's been a

1438
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 3: tough twenty years.

1439
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: It's fashion, man, It's it'll be back. It's been a while. Yeeah,

1440
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: I think it would have been back by now.

1441
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think somebody saw you in one earlier

1442
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 4: this season right there, and I to wear I'm mock,

1443
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 4: what is that?

1444
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1445
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 4: Listen you you wearing the new balanced shoes that have

1446
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 4: literally have come back in terms of fashion. I can't

1447
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 4: get behind it. You know these? Yeah, these shoes that

1448
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 4: everybody's wearing. But I used to I used to sell

1449
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 4: these shoes. They looked exactly exactly. The were geeks, old people, yes,

1450
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 4: middle aged people, and the majority of them get on

1451
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 4: a knee and lace it for them. Why are you

1452
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 4: buying this thing now?

1453
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: Now?

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01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 4: The six eight was a solid shoe. Anyways, there's some

1455
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 4: there's some solid ones out there, but they've come around.

1456
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking about wearing basketball shoes because the new

1457
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 4: Bounce ones looked that good. Like every it seems like

1458
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: they've they started to expand. It's not just a Jamal

1459
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 4: Murray Brown shoe. It's, uh, everybody's wearing The've got some

1460
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 4: good looking shoes for ye next one. Hey, no ducks.

1461
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 4: When tastradamis will Thiago Splitter into a head coaching role,

1462
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 4: Splitter joined a select company of NBA players whose most

1463
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 4: famous moments were on the wrong end of a highlight.

1464
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 4: Toront Lu got stepped over by Iverson and Splitter got

1465
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 4: rejected by Lebron, both in the NBA Finals. What other

1466
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 4: NBA coaches past or present have most famously been on

1467
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 4: the wrong end of a highlight? Burn up love some

1468
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 4: fries all done. That is from Unadvanced Analytics.

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Speaker 2: It's their name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, longtime fank you go on this one. You

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01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: got anything? Because I have like a something a little different.

1472
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 3: I had a hard time finding a current coach like

1473
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 3: maybe there's some Jason Kidd highlights or low lights, yeah there,

1474
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 3: but for him, like the biggest low light I think

1475
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 3: of is his coaching career when he did the hey

1476
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: bump into me something. Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous. So

1477
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 3: I got a flashback to the nineties Rudy tom Janovic.

1478
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: The only real highlight you ever saw Rudy tom Janovich

1479
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: was being on the wrong side of vicious punch from

1480
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 3: Kermit Washington, And it's like, that's all I knew about

1481
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: Rudy Janovic as a player, and then was obviously a

1482
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: really good coach for the Houston Rockets. A couple of

1483
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: titles but if they ever showed anything from his playing

1484
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 3: career was like a tragic, scary movement.

1485
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: It's a good one. Did we uh, did we ever

1486
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: see footage of Steve Kerr getting popped by Michael Jordan

1487
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: in practice or talked about? Because you just reminded me

1488
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: of Steve. This could be an option here, But yeah,

1489
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think we saw that footage. Yeah, I couldn't.

1490
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: I was struggling with this one. Yeah, I have a

1491
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: whole other story sort of, but do you have any well?

1492
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, flying through.

1493
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 4: Is this different in that it was a it was

1494
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 4: a highlight as a coach when he got into it

1495
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 4: with Lebron James, and it was transcribed by a Twitter

1496
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 4: account called Legends when he got into that fight and Odoka,

1497
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 4: you know, apparently allegedly looked like you said, stop crying

1498
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 4: like bitches, man, soft ass boy, stop bitching acting like

1499
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: you're going to do something. I think is more known

1500
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 4: for that than an incredible head coaching career so far.

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01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: But you couldn't. Couldn't arth Udoka highlight where he got

1502
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: crossed up or something like that?

1503
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1504
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 4: No, I have member the Sam Cassell doing big balls.

1505
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 4: He's assistant coach now, I mean that's Is it a

1506
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 4: bad thing that he did the big balls? No legend

1507
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 4: or Chauncey Phillips is currently a head coach. He's known

1508
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 4: for something far worse off the court. Ye, now, allegedly

1509
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 4: it's an a leegend crime. Yeah, but that's all I got.

1510
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: Here's my sort of like story off of this question.

1511
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: So I'm watching the New York broadcasts of Raps Nicks

1512
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: earlier this week. Right, I love me some Mike Breen

1513
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: and Clyde Fraser. Sometimes I just default to the home team.

1514
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: I say that because usually I'm a Devlin guy. Although

1515
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,440
Speaker 1: I will say it was hilarious watching the Knicks broadcast

1516
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 1: because Devlin is right beside him. You could hear Devlin

1517
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: on the call for the Knicks broadcast. Wow, it was

1518
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: like bleeding through Like Scotty Barnes kept taking threes and

1519
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: he was hitting them during that stretch. I brought it

1520
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,799
Speaker 1: up on the show. I can hear someone yell Scottie Scotty.

1521
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, there's like a diehard Raps fan like

1522
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: sitting like right there. And then a little bit later

1523
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: you could hear devilin like actually Devlin's voice saying whatever

1524
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: it was about the game. I was doblin the whole time,

1525
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: and then I was like looking at like, oh, he's

1526
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: right beside him, and Devil's got a loud voice. It

1527
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,440
Speaker 1: projects anyway, I'm watching that game. I'm watching the Knicks broadcast.

1528
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: There's a sequence where Mitchell Robinson was dribbling up top

1529
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: near the three point line, like actually dribbling, and Mike

1530
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: Breen he noted, Wow, that's more like ball handling from

1531
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson in these last two possessions than we've seen

1532
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: like in weeks. I thought it was pretty funny, which

1533
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: triggered a funny Clyde story about when he played Nick's coach,

1534
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: Red Holzman would tell Phil Jackson, here's the whole point

1535
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 1: of this. Now, don't dribble the ball, just give it

1536
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: to Clyde. So this is what the legendary Red would

1537
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: say to Phil Jackson when he played for the Knicks.

1538
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: So Jackson says to Red, well, what if Clyde is covered,

1539
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: and Red says, well, just throw it in the stands.

1540
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: I don't want you to dribble. So I guess Phil

1541
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: Jackson maybe with you know, he was out there for

1542
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: defensive purposes, but not out there for dribbling.

1543
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great to tune into the other broadcast because

1544
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 4: I was just reminded of this the other day because

1545
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 4: I don't. I just was lazy. Okay, this game's on,

1546
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 4: but this is a stat. This is stat geek dumb

1547
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 4: right here. The other day, I said, Danny Avdia started

1548
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 4: his career with the second most thirty point triple doubles

1549
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 4: in NBA history. And I was our friend seb apparently

1550
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 4: it's this guy. I'm listening to the Blazers broadcast and

1551
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 4: it's this guy. So I said, whoa, let me go

1552
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 4: over there, and I heard who it was, and I did.

1553
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 4: I checked the stats. I think it looks like they're

1554
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 4: tied with four. It's forty points. Yeah, they tied. It's

1555
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 4: pistol Pe pistol pte. Yeah, I'm surprised by that.

1556
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: Never guess that.

1557
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 4: No, No, but he had four. You'd think it's Oscar,

1558
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,839
Speaker 4: but he only scored Oscar. Butson only scored twenty plus

1559
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 4: and his triple levels to start.

1560
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: So anyway, cool story, bro. The other broadcasts are fun.

1561
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,480
Speaker 2: That's all a lot of variety.

1562
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, time for one more? Why not? I have

1563
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: some urgent news this one starts. I just found a

1564
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan playoff game Wugie yesterday. I wanted to watch

1565
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: some random old games to compare the pacin style to today's

1566
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 1: play so on YouTube, I just typed Chicago Bulls nineteen

1567
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: ninety two playoffs and I found game six of the

1568
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Series Bowls versus Nicks, and I just started watching.

1569
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: And then halfway through the first quarter, MJ posted up

1570
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: Gerald Wilkins and shot a turnaround fade away boom, a weggie.

1571
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: Just a thing of beauty I had to share with

1572
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: you guys immediately. Interestingly, the broadcast refers to the weggie

1573
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: as an incident, which already had happened during the ninety

1574
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: two playoffs. So I will start the search for that

1575
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 1: weggie and I will let you know asam. Keep up

1576
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: the great work that is from Marvin, and Marvin shared

1577
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: the clip. We have the clip, JD. You can roll

1578
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: that because I know there's a bit of a build

1579
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: up to MJ finally getting it on the block versus

1580
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: Gerald Woodmen. But you'll see it here. Here we go

1581
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: MJ in a spot backing them up a little shimmy

1582
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: turn around. Yeah, that's a nice Weggie.

1583
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: That's the best player we've ever seen.

1584
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 4: Have a Weggie stuck indeed, Yeah, this nostalgia comes back.

1585
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: You see ninety two NBA playoffs on the floor. That

1586
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 2: was a great clip.

1587
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: I was wondering. I'm like, was a young twelve year

1588
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: old Skeets watching that game? And what did he do

1589
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: when he saw that? I can't remember. Maybe I wasn't.

1590
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I wasn't. I don't know if that was a

1591
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 1: day game or night game. It was the day game.

1592
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 1: It was more likely always watching it than that game.

1593
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: But we can find Greatggie what time? What you can

1594
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: find out the time?

1595
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: Do you remember before you got in here this morning,

1596
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: we were talking about the time we were on a

1597
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: stream yard. I don't know if it was during the

1598
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: COVID years, but Lee had like a hookup somebody he

1599
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: knew was like feeding him all these like historic wedgies

1600
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: like from the nineties and stuff like do you remember that?

1601
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: Like he was like he was like teasing us with

1602
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: them and he was like sprinkling them in. Yeah, JD,

1603
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: you you confirmed that wasn't crazy, right. We definitely watched them. Yeah,

1604
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I know who it is. I don't

1605
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 1: know for source.

1606
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 4: Yes, we all know of the source, but I can't

1607
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 4: remember if we're allowed to say why. NBA TV Canada

1608
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,959
Speaker 4: said much.

1609
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: Said too much, we were doing this.

1610
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 4: No, but well I remember that person sending some in. Yeah,

1611
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 4: but no, I don't remember the least giving us his source.

1612
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: It was very cagy about it. Yeah, I have secrets.

1613
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's why secret source we have. He was totally glad.

1614
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: That guy was totally fine. We're letting people know.

1615
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so.

1616
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 2: I guess it was just hoarding. Shout out to Jake.

1617
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: Yes, oops, oop, Jakie boy.

1618
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 3: Here's his home address and phone number if you want

1619
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:26,560
Speaker 3: to call it.

1620
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: Lit Bye, Little Bye of the Night, unsullied by sponsorship

1621
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: since November. This one was easy. I started working on

1622
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: the graphic last night before I went to bed, and

1623
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: it helps. We got all these early games too.

1624
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that. I like that a lot like that.

1625
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray gets your woe boy the night season high

1626
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: fifty two points. You noted there, and I said season high.

1627
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: This guy does have a fifty five point game under

1628
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: his belt. He shot nineteen twenty five from the field,

1629
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: ten of eleven from deep. As we talked about six

1630
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: sports forsis one steal in only thirty six minutes too. Man,

1631
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: go watch the highlights. When Jamal Murray's cooking, it's fun

1632
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: because he's going left.

1633
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 3: He's going left. Yeah, sometimes he's going to the rim.

1634
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 3: But a lot of times he's stepping back.

1635
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: He's stepping back and splashing. So great game from him. Uh,

1636
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: you're right, tass. I picked tonight's game. I wanted a

1637
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: weird one. I wanted to get funky tonight jazz nets

1638
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: Utah favored by three and a half at the time

1639
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: I saw it. I think it has moved to four

1640
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: and a half, but we'll go with three and a half.

1641
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: H what is everybody taken?

1642
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 4: It's also a great pick because we had this debate

1643
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 4: here at the desk Lowry Markinen or Michael Porter Junior.

1644
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: Oh God, a.

1645
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 3: Curious Mark versus curious Mike.

1646
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 4: It's exciting that that's why you, as a Mike supporter,

1647
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 4: Trey have got then that's yep.

1648
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: I love I love everything Michael Porter Jr. Is about.

1649
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 3: I agree with all of his opinions I've seen. I mean,

1650
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 3: I've seen like the last three Nets games Live. I'm

1651
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 3: too devoted to the nets right now. So I'll give

1652
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 3: you some Danny Wolfe action.

1653
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Michael Poor Junior called out Danny Wolfer.

1654
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: He called out everybody postgame yesterday.

1655
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw his interview, but he

1656
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 4: was given love to all the guys around. He's getting

1657
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 4: love to Noah Clowney and how much he grew. Ben

1658
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 4: Saroff came off and helped us out. A goor Agor

1659
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 4: helped us out, and the proper pronunciation of surprised with

1660
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 4: that Danny wolf.

1661
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: Drake just calls Drake Powell Drake.

1662
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 4: And then he said, he said, Okay, I'm saying everybody.

1663
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 4: I think this is what internally he said, Okay, I'm

1664
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 4: saying everybody.

1665
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 2: Now I got to see.

1666
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 4: Another guy because it's like, oh yeah, whom He literally said,

1667
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 4: who am I forgetting? Noelan Trore, who isn't with the

1668
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 4: team right now? He literally said, oh yeah, I think

1669
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 4: he's in the G League right now.

1670
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 2: He just liked, I'm gonna name everybody. He's bald, learned

1671
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 2: to be a leader.

1672
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, looking crazy with that go tee, I

1673
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: guess it's a code. He's like evil looking go to

1674
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:57,799
Speaker 1: you very Yeah, it does work, all right, so Tassin,

1675
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: I need the Jazz to win by four points. From more,

1676
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: Tray's got some points to play with. With Brooklyn at home,

1677
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 1: you can't looking for his first win here of December.

1678
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 3: To pick up a battle, might have to get a

1679
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 3: Michael Porter Junior.

1680
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: We haven't decided yet on the payoffs, so you still

1681
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: have time if you have suggestions. So let's know, not

1682
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: the greatest games on tonight. For being honest, Warrior sixers,

1683
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: Okay maybe, but I mean Curry is not playing Celtics, Wizards, Jazz, Nets, Wolves, Pelicans.

1684
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: They just had a great game. They had a very

1685
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: entertaining overtime game. Lakers Raptors.

1686
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good game.

1687
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: No Luca though, No Luca. Yeah, I thought about going

1688
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: with it, but then I was like, I'm gonna I'm

1689
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna take the Raptors.

1690
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 2: What's what's Luca doing intentionally having another child?

1691
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so positive reasons his wife. So anyway, we

1692
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: will maybe talk about those games tonight. We'll see how

1693
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,919
Speaker 1: they go down. But we'll have some fun on tomorrow's

1694
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: drop podcast. So you'll have to join us at ten

1695
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: am Eastern if you're a Survivor fan. We'll be talking

1696
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: about episode eleven at one pm Eastern with Nora here

1697
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: in the studio. So come join us over at No Buffs.

1698
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube feeds, on podcast feed. We'll break it

1699
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: all down. So that's later today tomorrow the drop. All right,

1700
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: Well that was fun. I like talking trades, talking Chris Paul,

1701
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: getting in a little game talk, hitting the beach, did

1702
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. Get Worst of the Week nominees.

1703
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we got to with that batch of games.

1704
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I.

1705
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: Mean one that Tyler Hero One's pretty funny. I'll leave

1706
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: it at that.

1707
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 2: It's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one there.

1708
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: Show you tomorrow we'll break them all down, Worst of

1709
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: the Week nominees and a whole lot more. Until then,

1710
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 1: Clipper bros. You heard it here first.

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Speaker 3: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: And remember Basketball Reference is great for looking at individual

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Speaker 4: game stats info. I thought I would know if I

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Speaker 4: just went to Game two of the Bulls Knicks in

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Speaker 4: Round two of the playoffs, Game six, that's what he said.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's my mistake.

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Speaker 1: Game six is the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me check, but it's not going to tell

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Speaker 4: me anyways, sorry, game, that's all right, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: They don't say that. They don't say it was played.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, two hours and eighteen is how long. Two hours

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Speaker 4: eighteen minutes is how long it took to play. It's

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Speaker 4: a quick game.

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Speaker 2: Back then, they have the game length there.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised they don't have the time. I feel like

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Speaker 3: they do have time for new games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't back then. Yeah, it's not around. You know,

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Speaker 4: the Knicks had a fifteen point quarter there in Game six.

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Speaker 4: The Bulls had a sixteen point to end the game.

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Speaker 1: Game six could be on in the season very well,

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Speaker 1: could be, because you know they like to get those

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Speaker 1: sixes and sevens on a weekend.

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Speaker 2: May fourteenth, nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, look at it. Wait wait wait, I mean now

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Speaker 1: we're looking up two different things because I was wondering

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Speaker 1: if it was a dig in. My it's on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I bet it's a dig in, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we just need to come on internet, don't

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Speaker 4: I mean just telling me.

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Speaker 3: It's a Saturday, tell me a Stursday.

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Speaker 1: It's a nid Yeah. Okay, so young skids didn't see that.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they stay a blake. I probably didn't

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Speaker 1: see it. I'm just like wondering we would have had it.

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Speaker 1: I guess NBC, Yeah, I guess it would have.

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Speaker 3: Been on.

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Speaker 2: Broadcast exposures. We're getting broadcast coverage for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the day, people race the time.