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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Reporters presented by t I A A

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters presented by t I A A Bank starts

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Speaker 1: right now. Welcome in Jaguar's Reporters, a podcast with all

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Speaker 1: of us lovely media folks, John Oja Bryant Sex and J. P. Shaddick,

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Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan here with you, discussing all the news of

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Speaker 1: the week. And I won't lie to you, John, I

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Speaker 1: was trying to come up with some news and this

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Speaker 1: is one of those weeks where you scratch your head thinking,

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Speaker 1: I gotta find some news. Well it's been a slow week,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna get busy with the franchise tags coming up,

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Speaker 1: free agencies and too far around the corner. So enjoy

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Speaker 1: the calm before the storm, if you will. Yes, and JP,

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Speaker 1: I I felt for you because last week was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be the NFL combine. We're supposed to get another

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Speaker 1: shrimp cocktail and instead you have to settle for one

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Speaker 1: here which just isn't the same. It's not even close.

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Speaker 1: I mean there there's a good shrimp here. I mean

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Speaker 1: let's say Mayport's right here. I get that, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, and it's strange because they

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Speaker 1: haven't you're talking about the lack of news right now, Well,

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Speaker 1: they haven't announced the top end of what the salary

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Speaker 1: caps going to be. So I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: these teams are just waiting until that comes out to

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Speaker 1: officially maybe resign some of their pending free agents or

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Speaker 1: start franchising a guy. I think they have to wait

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Speaker 1: until the official numbers come out before there's really a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of actual news around the NFL. Now there's

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Speaker 1: a domino effect here too. There are some teams who

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Speaker 1: are waiting to see who might come available before they

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Speaker 1: signed their own guys. So I mean, at this point,

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Speaker 1: we're just waiting for them to decide. And I believe

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's Clark Hunt Jr. Who said

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Speaker 1: that it might not be until of March, you know,

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Speaker 1: the day before the new league year is supposed to open,

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Speaker 1: that they know specifically what that number is. So I

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Speaker 1: imagine until that point it's going to be quiet. Right.

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Speaker 1: We were looking um seeing if anyone had placed the

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Speaker 1: franchise tag around the leane and that brings us to

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Speaker 1: our first news of the week, which is the franchise tag.

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Speaker 1: In the deadline of March nine, all eyes, at least

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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars are on Cam Robinson, and we spoke

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Speaker 1: at Great Link last week of should they give him

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Speaker 1: a new contracts franchise tag. We're we're still up in

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Speaker 1: the air, and I mean, the biggest news of the

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Speaker 1: league is Dak Prescott and the Cowboys, but at least

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Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville, nothing's really changed, and we have mixed opinions.

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Speaker 1: John of whether the franchise tag is the right move, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it could be the right move. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say that if they don't use it, it's the wrong

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Speaker 1: move because frankly, right now, we don't really know how

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Speaker 1: they feel about Cam. We know George Warhop last summer

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Speaker 1: indication aside from Urban Meyers saying and Darryl Bevil that

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Speaker 1: they like the pensive line, but we don't know that

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Speaker 1: that means necessarily Cam Robinson. Bevil was pretty pointed in

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Speaker 1: saying we don't know what's going to happen to Cam

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Speaker 1: I just don't know that they need to, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like Cam Robinson is creating a

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Speaker 1: They're talking about Trent Williams and is he worth eighteen

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Speaker 1: And they couldn't just do a two or a three

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Speaker 1: Uh that gives Cam a market kind of deal without

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Speaker 1: tagging Cam would mean not having to go get that

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Speaker 1: he says a number below the franchise. Tager wants this big,

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Speaker 1: I think the Drag Wars ought to investigates swinging in

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked last week about you know, are

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Speaker 1: also the genesis of this John, is that with the

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Speaker 1: and I for sure wouldn't want to give up any

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Speaker 1: I don't think they would a player for player trades

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Speaker 1: John Osier, what are we thinking you're throwing a curveball here? Um, well,

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Speaker 1: scares defenses in this sense. If you don't stop him,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are going to be in in second or

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Speaker 1: four with very good down and distance, and that's a

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Speaker 1: they don't answer to anybody, I mean, did you seem

428
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Speaker 1: like a temper tantrum? Yeah, a little bit, just one

429
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Speaker 1: of those weeks. I guess you could say, all right,

430
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Speaker 1: did you hear this? John Oser Steve White from the

431
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Speaker 1: NFL Network. We always catch up with him at the

432
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Speaker 1: NFL Combine. Lovely, lovely guy, always very happy to talk

433
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Speaker 1: to the Jaguars. John Oser caught up with him on

434
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Speaker 1: the ozone podcast Check it Out. The end day was

435
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: so cool because the players have guaranteed contract, right, so

436
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: in terms of them fighting their tongue, that didn't really

437
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: rapid mean, these guys spoke their minds freely back in

438
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: the nineties, right even back in the nineties and early

439
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: two thousand's. Um, when I've covered it, I'll never could

440
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Speaker 1: get you know, when I cover the Miami Heat. These

441
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: are the first great run of Heat teams, you know,

442
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: the Lonzo Morning Morning and Tim Hardaway and Jamal Mashburn

443
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: and Dan Marley, Tim Hardaway, you know, Perennial All Star

444
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: was like Steve, we know you can't always write good

445
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: stuff about us, we get that, but if you're coming

446
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: with a bombshell or you're coming with some really heavy stuff,

447
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: let's let us know, like, hey, man, I got I

448
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: hate doing this, but this is coming, you know, in

449
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow's paper or whatever, and they get it. It gives

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Speaker 1: him a chance to respond prepare. So even if I

451
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: can't get to Jared Goff or Deshaun watch whenever I

452
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: gotta call the teams and hey, look, I I gotta

453
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: let you know this is coming out of somebody said

454
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: this about your guy. That's good journalism. And too often

455
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: right now, work for the quick to get it up online,

456
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, get it out on Twitter as soon as possible,

457
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: and we neglect that step. And that's how come we

458
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 1: have so much you know, distrust, blurredlines, people picking sides,

459
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: and what we do in this business down And I

460
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: really hate how that part of a lot of professionalism

461
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: has been co opted in the name of clicks or

462
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: in the name of getting visitors to your own personal

463
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Speaker 1: blog things like that. Here's the thing that indeed drives

464
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: me nuts about people who talk about NBA contracts and

465
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: NFL contracts. And there's always people out there who can't

466
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Speaker 1: figure out why NBA players and and baseball players make

467
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Speaker 1: so much more than NFL players by comparison, even even

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, even the high end, and what I don't

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Speaker 1: grasp it. I don't think this was Steve's point, but

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Speaker 1: it's sort of got me thinking. There's more NFL players.

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Speaker 1: Of course you can pay, and of course the NBA

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Speaker 1: players can have more control over the situation. When you've

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Speaker 1: got maybe seven players an NBA team who matter, you

474
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Speaker 1: can pay them all in these or an amount of

475
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Speaker 1: money compared to the cat because they're the only guys

476
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Speaker 1: that matter. In the NFL, you've got sixty five guys

477
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Speaker 1: to pay thirty five who matter, so you're never going

478
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: to get even Aaron Rodgers. And I guess my homes

479
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: was the difference. But those kind of contracts are going

480
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: to be rare because you simply cannot pay NFL players

481
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Speaker 1: as mentions you pay baseball players. All right, it is

482
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Speaker 1: time for our favorite game. Let me get out my timer.

483
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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys to it this week? Everybody asked?

484
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Speaker 1: Was everyone asked? Everyone asked what I said across the

485
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Speaker 1: brook that guy? All right, Ashland is up with the

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Speaker 1: first question, and JP, should the Jaguars volunteer for hard Knocks?

487
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: They can volunteer and put themselves on the show. Should

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Speaker 1: they do it? Thirty seconds go should they yes? Will

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Speaker 1: they no? I think urban Meyer it's his vision around here,

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Speaker 1: as we heard stud Conca right after they hired him,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that vision includes other people's looking

492
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Speaker 1: into this organization while they're building the organization, at least

493
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Speaker 1: the first year. Should they sure it'd be great for business,

494
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: be great for ticket sales, be great for merchandise. Will

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Speaker 1: they know? I don't think so. All right, No, god, no, no.

496
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Speaker 1: Having those cameras around you know about old man, get

497
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Speaker 1: off my lawn. Oh way do I want hard knocks here?

498
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: It's prerely personal. And by the way, that all generated

499
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Speaker 1: from an NFL dot com writer linking to a story

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Speaker 1: from two thousand and twelve. I get no feeling. And

501
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 1: then he had a premonition that Dave was gonna come.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna volunteer for it. I get no feeling

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Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. No, no, no, Brian, I'll answer quickly. No.

504
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll need to. Uh. Trevor Lawrence and

505
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: urban Meyer by themselves will have the national media here

506
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: and cameras here all the time, so they don't need

507
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: to do this. But I will go back to Jaguar

508
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: summer two thousand and four, UM, and and having those

509
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: cameras around, it wasn't as intrusive as you thought. I

510
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: that production crew from NFL Films did an excellent job.

511
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: They were on every plane, they were on the practice fields,

512
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: they were around. But it wasn't so overpowering that it

513
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: would be um intrusive. I just didn't think it was.

514
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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't do this because I want to. I'd

515
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: want to quietly do it my way, and I don't

516
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Speaker 1: think I need them. So you have it, all right?

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Speaker 1: I guess the answers. No, I'll move on JP. What

518
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Speaker 1: do you got they might do INWO be forced to

519
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: at that point? But all right, here's my question. If

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars win eight or more games this year, five

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Speaker 1: or better, should Urban Meyer get consideration as coach of

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Speaker 1: the year in the National Football League? John, Yes, it

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Speaker 1: would be wouldn't be a record turnaround, but it would

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Speaker 1: be up there on the lists. Uh. If you deal

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Speaker 1: with the rookie quarterback, I don't care how good he

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Speaker 1: is as literally, if they went eight nighth that said,

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Speaker 1: it's a seven game improvement, you'd be in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: You'd be talked about all year. Uh. Yeah, he should

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Speaker 1: be considered for Yes, I'm sorry, yes he should and

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Speaker 1: not just that, but personnel guy of the year too, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, because this is his show here, um and

532
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: and being facetious, but the reality of it is is

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Speaker 1: if he gets to eight and eight, he's done a

534
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: good job bringing the right players in here, and not

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00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: just the quarterback, but getting this team and lifting it up.

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00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: So I would say, yes, absolutely, he should be. In

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Speaker 1: the conversation bring us home Ash, I say yes as well.

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Speaker 1: And I cringed a little when John said a seven

539
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: game improvements like that hurts, but yeah, absolutely, I mean

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Speaker 1: eight and eight you take that any day with the

541
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Speaker 1: like John said, rookie quarterback and the first year and

542
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Speaker 1: the biggest question was Canner been doing in the NFL?

543
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: That would absolutely prove yes, he can do it. It

544
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: is difficult to win ten games. It's difficult to win eight.

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Speaker 1: That would be the second best record since I've been here,

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Speaker 1: by the way, and eight that's let's talk about cringe,

547
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: all right. Fact, yeah, we can go quick on this one.

548
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: It's a whole idea. What rookie outside James Robinson, are

549
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: you most interested in next season? Rookie? Probably because he

550
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: came on so strong at the end of the year,

551
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: not in terms of sacks, but in terms of explosiveness

552
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: in the way that he attacked the pocket. Um They'll

553
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: try to get the most out of him. If you've

554
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Speaker 1: got Josh Allen and maybe a free agent defensive tackle

555
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: in there, he should be better. So I'll say Jason

556
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: because the pass rush didn't exist last year. I like it.

557
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Speaker 1: I'm going Colin Johnson to take a step in the

558
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: right direction and have all eyes on him, especially if

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars don't swing big for free agency him bringing

560
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: a big time number one guy, I think uh, And

561
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Speaker 1: especially if they don't bring back healing cold then you

562
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: really have your eyes on Colin Johnson. And we saw

563
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: some flashes. I'd like to see some more of him.

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Speaker 1: I'll go Lovisca Tional Jr. Can he stay on the

565
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: field a little bit. He has those little knicks and

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Speaker 1: he gets banged up a little bit. That was m

567
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Speaker 1: O in college as well. Because of the way he plays.

568
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: He's such a big, physical player. He takes a lot

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Speaker 1: of hits. Can he adjust to that in the NFL?

570
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Speaker 1: Or is that just going to be him moving forward?

571
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at Levisco. Alrighty Brian, bring us home

572
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: your question. Um. Covid obviously changed the the out of

573
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Speaker 1: season program a year ago. UM and J. C. Treader,

574
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Speaker 1: who is the center for Cleveland and who is also

575
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Speaker 1: the players Association president, has suggested that that is now

576
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Speaker 1: the model going forward because the quality of play in

577
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Speaker 1: his eyes and the player's eyes, did not drop significantly.

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Speaker 1: So he wants a detached offseason program. O T A

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Speaker 1: s uh waits the whole nine yards. Um, he didn't

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Speaker 1: want to show up to camp. In other words, only voluntary. Um,

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Speaker 1: in your mind, should they do that? Is that the

582
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Speaker 1: way of the future? In my mind, no, because I'm

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Speaker 1: an old man. But now and I could see some

584
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Speaker 1: sort of separation, meaning if you're in your third year

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Speaker 1: or forward, perhaps have it. I mean it's already voluntary,

586
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Speaker 1: so it's hard to get your mind around this you

587
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: really talking about. But I think new head coaches and

588
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: young players still need an O. T A. I bet

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Speaker 1: if you went and asked Jaguars rookies from last year

590
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: or guys, uh, guys who are in their second year

591
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: last year and here didn't take a huge jump, and

592
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: you wonder if the offseason had something to do well.

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00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: The guy that I would ask be Matt Rule to

594
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: coach at Carolina because he came in not having a

595
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: chance to do it JP and and had to pick

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Speaker 1: it up and go. But uh, you know, if the

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00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: players have so much more leverage all of a sudden,

598
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: as we're seeing DeShawn Watson and Russell Wilson work on,

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00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: have they changed it forever? I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: good for young players. I think you still need some

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00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: on field work at some point. Um, you know, like

602
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: you were saying, especially the young guys, get them out

603
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: there a rookie camp of some kind. Maybe you know,

604
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: uh that that's very important to get guys acclimated for

605
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: your system. How you do it on the field, it's

606
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: different when you see it in person. I think there's

607
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: some positives. Though. There were some positives from people learning

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Speaker 1: how to do the zoom meetings and all that, and

609
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: we saw James Robinson figured it out, you know, he

610
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Speaker 1: didn't have to be on the field in the off season.

611
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Speaker 1: But I don't think this is going to be the

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Speaker 1: permanent way of going about business there. There might be

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00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of a mix of the online meeting

614
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: room space. You still have to have some on the

615
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Speaker 1: field work. Yes, I think it hurts. I hate to

616
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Speaker 1: be this girl, the raw, raw girl. It hurts the

617
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: team camaraderie, the togetherness, that's what's great about football, and

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00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: I think it hurts that. Like you saw the off

619
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: season workouts with Gardner Minshew on the field and it

620
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: was a couple of receivers and that's their first time meeting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I like that, but I do

622
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Speaker 1: think the biggest changes. I don't know if we'll ever

623
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Speaker 1: see four preseason games ever again. I think you'll see three,

624
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Speaker 1: maybe even less. Those day I think are very far over.

625
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Here's a question you have to ask. I know her

626
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: way over time that I'm passionate if if you cut

627
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: out the off season, and I have never been a

628
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: guy who thinks it should be mandatory. When we were kids,

629
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Speaker 1: there wasn't an off season until training camp started, and

630
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: it was six weeks long. But you had six weeks

631
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Speaker 1: of training came season games. So now if if you

632
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Speaker 1: take no off season, then you ask yourself, you've you've

633
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: essentially got what about two and a half weeks of

634
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: training camp now realistically until you get into your game

635
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: plan mode. So what what people who listen to this,

636
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of them realize, but some may not.

637
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: There's really not any teaching that goes on during the

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00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: regular season in the NFL. It's game plan. Let's get

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Speaker 1: It's strictly game plan. Roll the ball out, let's go. Well.

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Speaker 1: To wrap the thought up, we probably will see some

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Speaker 1: If if it goes back, or if it changes. But

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Speaker 1: a hybrid system. Yep Curious April five, if they roll in,

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Speaker 1: that offseason program. So we'll see. Now you have it,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters a great group, great convo group. Everything's great.

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Speaker 1: I am I'm Rale Rod's Day, Russell Westbrook and I

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Speaker 1: are raw rolling onto next week's episode. Yep, that's me,

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