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Speaker 1: Leslie mcgwork back with us professional astrologer more than thirty

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Speaker 1: years of experience in that business. Leslie's passion is to

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Speaker 1: instruct people about the evolution of astrology and its place

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Speaker 1: in history. She can explain everything in nature has a pattern,

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Speaker 1: like a tree trunk or a snowflake, and we have

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Speaker 1: a pattern as people as well. With an astrological chart,

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Speaker 1: Leslie brings astrology to life so that you can use

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Speaker 1: it and help it or understand in your place in

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Speaker 1: the world. Leslie, welcome back. How was your Thanksgiving? It

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Speaker 1: was great. It's nice to be back talking about my

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Speaker 1: favorite topic. I know it by the more than thirty

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Speaker 1: years experience. What did you do? Start when you were eight?

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Speaker 1: Take him pretty much? Well, eighteen, my mom sent me

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Speaker 1: to an astrologer and she changed my life. And I

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Speaker 1: was totally redirected, and I became obsessed. I said, how

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Speaker 1: the heck did she do that? And she knew who

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Speaker 1: I was at a sole level and was studying for many,

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Speaker 1: many years and had no idea I would ever become

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Speaker 1: But the higher version of my chart is to be

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Speaker 1: an astrologer and to teach people and help people. So

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Speaker 1: I'm actually growing into the highest version of what I

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Speaker 1: can possibly be by being an astrologer. You love it too,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you. Just enjoy doing what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: talk about it for hours. Yes, you know, early years

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Speaker 1: everybody would go to those things first, Leslie, you remember that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they still have them in the back of magazines, and

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Speaker 1: that's not what astrology is, and people don't really understand it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Nancy Reagan particularly helped either using it

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Speaker 1: the way that she used it. It's really impossible to

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Speaker 1: look up just your sun sign, which everyone knows what

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Speaker 1: And if we look at astrology as similar to being

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Speaker 1: like an owner's manual that you have, just like you

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Speaker 1: predict the future. It just tells you the way that

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Speaker 1: you're designed and how you're wired. But if you have

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Speaker 1: the chart of a Ferrari, an astrologer can predict, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you're designed to go one hundred and fifty miles an hour,

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Speaker 1: So if you don't do that, you're going to be frustrated.

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Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of fortune telling involved. I

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Speaker 1: suppose you could use that word, but not anymore than

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Speaker 1: if a car mechanic was looking at Evolvo or Toyota.

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Speaker 1: They kind of can tell how your design and what

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Speaker 1: designed for. There seems to be incredible interest in astrology.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm noticing it more and more where websites

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Speaker 1: And I think astrology is one of the most compassionate,

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Speaker 1: book tonight, The Power of Mercury, about the planet Now,

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Speaker 1: an astronomical situation or an astrological situation with mercury when

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Speaker 1: more esoteric sciences. And he said to me that one

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Speaker 1: Because I've been doing this for over thirty years, so

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Speaker 1: How could one planet like Mercury have such influence on

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Speaker 1: So here's how it works. Storage think about the Moon.

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Speaker 1: Because think about it, these planets, they're all rotating. Everything

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Speaker 1: in nature that rotates gives off energy. Just like when

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Speaker 1: you put a pebble in a stream. There are these

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Speaker 1: waves that come off of things like a torsion field.

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Speaker 1: So an astrologer is looking at a map of what

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Speaker 1: was above your head when you were born, and we're

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Speaker 1: looking at where are these planets in relationship to each

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Speaker 1: other and you on the earth. The natal chart never changes,

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Speaker 1: but your job is to outgrow it. You're supposed to

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Speaker 1: learn your piece of music and then once you learn it,

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Speaker 1: guess what, you don't even have to look at it.

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Speaker 1: You can just play it by heart. You can just

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Speaker 1: do the highest version of you. And that's what I

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Speaker 1: love about looking at astrology the way that I look

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Speaker 1: at it. You have complete free will over what you're

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Speaker 1: going to do with the vehicle that you were given.

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Speaker 1: And my job as an astrologer is to find out

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Speaker 1: how can you best be in a place of flow

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Speaker 1: and just how can you make your life easy? And

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Speaker 1: we all were designed for something, and when we fight

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Speaker 1: our human design, that's when we get into trouble. So

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Speaker 1: I like to look at people also as if they're animals.

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Speaker 1: Like if you have a chart of a giraffe and

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Speaker 1: you are born into a family of little mice and

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Speaker 1: the mice are constantly yelling at you because of your

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Speaker 1: big neck. I mean, it doesn't really help. You need

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Speaker 1: to accept and understand with loving compassion the way we

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Speaker 1: are all different and we're all wired in a very

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Speaker 1: specific way. So it brings a humongous amount of peace

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Speaker 1: to know. Wow, this makes total sets now I get it.

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Speaker 1: My mother has this energy to her and that's why

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Speaker 1: she behaved the way she did. It really didn't have

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