WEBVTT - Everyone Is Doing Great w/ James Lafferty & Stephen Colletti (Part 1) 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.320 From my arm Radio Common Enemy Contendum with TV the 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:16.440 Pal Podcast Pal, Hey Pal with Jared and so this 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.360 is gonna be a special episode. I know we say 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.040 that a lot, but we just got I was talking. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:25.600 I don't care. Well, okay, I'm rapping Philly versus everybody. Mofo? 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.040 Whoa mofo? Where did you get that? You never say mofo? 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:34.120 Check that out? I hate this sh shop gold. Nobody 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.159 can see you, but I'll let everyone know. He just 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.199 pulled out a chain that was tucked in That is 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.920 a Philadelphia Eagle. Um, you love it. You can put 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.080 that away for the show. Put it away and don't 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.440 and don't bring it out for our guests. Dave, how 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:52.199 much did you love? Everyone is doing great? Absolutely loved it. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.440 I mean you called me. You never called me. First 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.120 of all, you never call me, I mean there's no 0:00:56.200 --> 0:01:00.320 reason to. Second of all, you actually call me, and 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.440 you're like wanting to talk about a show. And I 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.240 know when you're genuinely excited, I did. I mean, this 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:09.160 show is is brilliant. Um, you know, I'm so excited 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.440 to have this dynamic duo on the show today. The 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.520 dynamic dynamic is a great wrote they directed it, they 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.200 acted in it, they started it, they did craft services 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.399 for it. Should we should we do a show when 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.120 we do all those things? Probably not, because I don't 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.320 think it would be successful. Okay, well that's fair. We'll 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.760 just leave it to Lafferty and COLLETTI right, let's see 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.200 it to the professional. Yeah. So so everybody, look, we're 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.600 gonna get into the into the interview as soon as uh, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.480 you know, as soon as we can. Um. But this show, 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.160 I just I just urge everyone to watch this show. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.880 It is just absolutely awesome on Hulu. On Hulu, you 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.280 you rarely ever see we're like two actors are just like, 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.320 you know what, I want to go create my own thing. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.240 I'm gonna I'm gonna wear all the hats on it, 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.920 and then I'm gonna go and sell it to a 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.360 place like Hulu. You know, that's a huge feat in itself, 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.040 and it's gonna come out into the world and it's 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.920 gonna be you know, successful. And that's what this show 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.920 is doing. And we are lucky enough to have gotten 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:07.200 the two leads um of that show as their their pals. Yeah, 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.840 there there are pals, and you know, they did just 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.320 an incredible job with it. It's super exciting to see 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.960 them kind of take that on because it's a big 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.720 endeavor to do something like this. And then of course 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.200 on Hulu you have the opportunity to stream the entire 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.480 series and binge it and one night, which is awesome, 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.440 which is what I did. So, um, yeah, I think 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.799 it's time for our next guest, Dave. And we've got 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.959 two of them, not one. I mean, this is a big, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.240 big moment in Hey pal podcast history. We have a 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.679 dynamic duo. We've got you know what I'm crapping up to, Yes, 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.560 we do. We do have a dynamic duo. So our 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.240 next guests have been all over your television sets for 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.560 a very very long time. They are personal pals of ours. 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.840 Stephen Colletti start in Laguna Beach and then made the 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.760 leap over to meet James Lafferty on One Tree Hill, 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.200 where now they start opposite each other in a brand 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.160 new series on Hulu in which they co created, they 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.080 co star, They've both directed, they write it. They I mean, 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.760 the list goes on. Did you guys do craps? We 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.440 just can we just bring them in? Stephen Colletti and 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:13.480 James laughing on Hey boys, how you doing. That's good. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.240 We should probably note that due to budget reasons, we 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.760 had to wear all the hats, so yes, we did 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.760 do crap service and make up positions as well. It 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.560 was awesome. You guys did an incredible job. A huge, 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.560 huge fan of the show. Uh really enjoyed it. Caught 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.360 myself laughing l O l NG, laughing out loud multiple times. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:36.480 So uh, really really great job guys. Um So speaking 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.880 to your new show, Uh, you guys are a duo, 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.160 and it made me think of sports duos. We you know, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.480 we talked sports here we talk entertainment. And one great 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.640 sports duo was James Harden and Kevin Durant who played 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.600 for Oklahoma City together and then they went their separate ways, 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.160 much like you guys did. You guys were together on 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.119 One Tree Hill, went your separate ways, did your own projects, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.360 and then now came back together, like James Harden and 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.839 like Kevin Durrand who were playing in Brooklyn. Now now 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.040 you guys came together to work on your project. So 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:07.920 tell us a little bit about what that was like 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:13.160 and how it all came about. Yeah, and you know, 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.080 I think it was it was working on One Tree 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.960 Hill together was obviously, you know, a dream, and that 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.840 was when we were a lot younger. Like I think 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.640 we met on that show when we were what like 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.520 around twenty one Stephen two, something like that. I just 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.360 remember going to a bar with a fake I d so, 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.720 so maybe I was UM. And we spent a lot 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.920 of time on that show, and you know, obviously grew 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.840 very close and became friends. UM. But once it was 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.960 time for us to sort of like phase into the 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.680 next stage of our lives. You know, we we knew 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.919 that we wanted to work on things behind the camera independently. UM. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:50.120 Stephen was writing, producing and I had been directing UM, 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.360 and we knew that we wanted to work on something together. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.720 But it was really about just trying to figure out 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:56.200 what that right thing was gonna be. We didn't want 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.200 to force it. We didn't want to just um start 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.640 you know, I don't know, just shooting you two half 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.120 bank YouTube videos or something, which we had those that 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.320 we had those ideas earlier. That way, Yeah, I'm not 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.640 not worthy. We're glad that we took some years to mature. Yeah, 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.160 And ultimately it just became about living I think it 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.280 living enough life to get some perspective to be able 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.120 to look back and get some perspective on what we 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.080 had sort of gone through in this industry and how 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.640 you know it took it took us, you know, a 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.839 while to to sort of grow up and learn some 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.680 hard lessons, um it. Yeah, it wasn't until then that 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.560 we sort of looked at each other in our lives 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.520 and were like, maybe there's a comedy here, Maybe there's 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.000 some maybe there's a story that we can mind out 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.719 of this and some funny stuff that we can mind 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.520 out of this and really make people laugh and also 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.720 sort of showcase what we feel like we can do 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.599 behind the camera as well as in front of the camera. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.000 So that's sort of how how it came about. And 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.320 so the thing with with k d And and Harden 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.880 is like, you know, you're in each other's lives every day, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.200 right when they were in Oklahoma City, just like we'll 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.520 use that example for that's One Tree Hill, and then 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.080 they go their separate ways. They're both professionals, just like 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.120 you guys are. James, You've gone on to do other 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.640 shows and movies, and Steven has gone on to do 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.200 other shows and movies. So they aren't able to really 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.880 stay that much in in in contact. I know that 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.799 you guys are are are very close just like they 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.880 they formed a bond. You know, were you able to 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.960 stay in contact as much as you like or or 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.680 were you not? And then when you get back together, 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.880 like what is that? You know? Is it like first 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.240 day of school and like it's like, okay, the band, 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.159 the band is back, kind of like they're feeling right 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.920 now on the court. I feel like there was, like, thankfully, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:33.520 like a trust built up to that point where when 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.320 it came time to shooting this thing. Well, I'll take 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.240 you back a little bit more when we first sat 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.160 down to talk about writing this thing and James came 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.360 to me with with the idea originally and said, you know, 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:44.560 I want to build this out with you. What do 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.520 you think? And I think we both went in that 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.360 first session of like, well, let's see how this goes. Like, 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.640 you know, we enjoy having a beer together, but as 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.760 far as you know business, we've worked together before in 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.559 the past. We didn't have a ton of scenes together 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.000 in one trial, but like, all right, you know, if 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.360 we're gonna, you know, um get serious about something, how 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.560 is this you know, how is that working relationship in 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.760 work and thankfully. After the first time we sat down 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.360 and we're writing together, it felt like it went smoothly. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.360 I feel like, you know, um, we just both participated 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.080 in a way that by the end of the day, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:15.680 I know, I had a sense of relief. I was like, oh, 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.880 I'm glad that that went well, um, and that we 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.960 can continue forward because you just never know. I was like, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.080 I feel like I'm understanding his vision. I've got an idea, 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:24.680 and when I kind of shared that with him, he 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.160 seems to be receptive to that, and so I knew 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.040 pretty quickly. I was like, sweet, exhale, I think this 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.360 is gonna work. Let's move forward. I don't know where 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.360 your experience was, James, Yeah, I mean it's similar. I guess. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.000 You know. It's like with with sports or with this 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:39.920 or anything that you do. What you guys are doing 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.800 with the podcast. You know, it's like everything is um. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.880 So much of it depends on chemistry, and so much 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.000 of it depends on each individuals. Like when you're talking 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.000 about a team of two people, uh, the ability to compromise, UM, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.400 and the ability to like you know, to listen to 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.320 the other person. And UM, I mean, I'm so glad 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.080 bringing up James because this is a good less and 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.760 for Jared because he doesn't understand the word compromise. I 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.560 don't think he needs to spell it. I don't think 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:10.000 he knows the definition. So please go on. But yeah, man, 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.640 I mean that's why you see so many you know, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.080 It's like you see these NBA super teams that get 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:17.040 formed and for some reason they don't work, and you're like, well, 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:18.920 how can that not work? There was all these amazing 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:20.960 players on this one team. There's all these all stars, 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.960 and you're like, well it. I mean, it seems pretty 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.080 clear to me after going through this process that the 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.480 reason it doesn't work is because you have to have 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.640 the right personalities mixing, and you have to have the 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.319 right people that are willing to settle into certain roles 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.760 for the good of the team. And I think that's honest, 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:40.560 actually naturally to have that trust. I'll tell you, move 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.560 that microphone away from that thing on your on your 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.720 hoodie right where that it was just scratching a little bit. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.880 There you go. I was like, mud, wait, so let's 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.960 let me ask you. Let me ask you this, who 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.719 before we get to the next question, who is k 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.640 D and who is hardened in this relationship. That's all 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.400 we want to know, guys, that's all we want to know. Man. Uh, 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.960 I would say it's like both shades, popping both sides 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.440 because I feel like KDS a better baller, and I 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:14.959 give I'll give James the better game before me. But 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.360 but I'd like to think that I'm in a lot 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:24.040 better shape than James on that front. I'm kidding. I'm 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:28.160 getting like Superman over No, no, no, no, I think yeah, no, listen, 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.800 you guys make the decision. I mean, it's it's it's close. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.560 There's there's pros and cons to both beards. I'm seen, 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.959 maybe we've got Skype does a lot for my beard. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.640 I have to say it's a lot more wiry than 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.719 it looks on camera. But to be honest, and I 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.960 enjoyed your beard when you went off the deep end 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.880 on the show where you just let it kind of 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.520 grow everywhere with like all over the next bed. Yeah, 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.720 I'm like, how is he dealing with this right now? 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.360 It's like that steel hair that you use in chem 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:04.240 class in high school. It's just like bush, don't go anywhere. Hey, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:14.240 Pam will be right back after a word from our sponsors. Okay, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.679 so here here's the deal. Guys. We we watched the show. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.560 I've watched it multiple times. Um, we we love we 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.600 love the show. And like we talked about at the top, 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.640 you guys are wearing so many hats, right, Um, so 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.000 we it got Dave and I, uh, you know, thinking 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.959 about sports and how Dave was actually pointing out when 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.000 when was this Dave in the seventies, how they used 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.280 to uh there used to be well, you guys did 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.240 so many like he said, you wore so many hats 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.760 on this project. In the seventies, it was pretty popular 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.760 for a major League baseball player to play and to 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.800 also manage at the same time. So like Frank Robinson 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.600 did it, Pete Rose did it later in like the eighties, 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.080 but it was kind of something that was was pretty common. 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.120 Um yeah, so we were yeah, just got us thinking, like, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.920 do you guys think that maybe, like with the six 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.240 says that you're having. I know that that's in the 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.800 entertainment field, right, but do you think that it would 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.880 behoove like a Lebron James or somebody to not have 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.280 a coach and to bring that back and to have 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.199 like a player coach and and to and to wear 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.600 those hats because because I'll tell you what, guys, Colletia 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.679 and Lafferty, like, the reason that I think it's so 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.560 good is because, and this is just obviously my opinion, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.240 but I think it's so good because you've you've been 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:29.080 an actor, right, so you you've you've been an actor. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.320 You've seen what the director does, and you've seen what 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.800 what a director needs to do to speak to his actors. 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.960 And so now you're stepping in the director's chair and 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.720 you know how to relate to other actors. You know 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.920 how to get the best performance out of your supporting cast. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.559 You also know how to like coach yourself now because 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.480 you've been through it. You know, you've been on the 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.120 playing field for a while, so you know how to 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.320 do do it all. And so, like does that translate 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.480 to you, guys with with athletes, you think that they 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.640 could get to a position where like if Lebron was 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.960 coaching himself, you know that it would it would be 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:03.199 better than than if like Frank Vogel was coaching the team. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.600 I would say that I think you need to have 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.600 that um, that kind of foundation of somebody who's who's 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.680 a little little a little further away from the painting. 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:14.920 If you will, maybe it'll will step out of the 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.520 team and who who can look from the outside perspective 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.160 and you know, and so I don't know, I think that. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:21.880 I mean, we had we've had a lot of help 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.240 on this, the Nelms Brothers that James have worked with, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.520 Johnny Durango, Michelle Lange. These are like instrumental producers that 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.600 came in and we're you know, if James and I 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.760 were both on camera at the same time, um, you know, 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.080 there to to guide us. Otherwise we would have just 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.560 been you know, swimming in circles out there and see. So, um, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.040 I think it's important. And I will say, like it's 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.839 funny when Frank Vogel went onto the Lakers, everyone was like, like, 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.480 who's this guy? I think they were trying to get 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.040 somebody else and then Vogel was like the second or 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.880 third choice and everyone just kind of wrote them off. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.559 And I love how he stepped into the role and 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.640 you know it. He knows when to stay out of 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.720 the way right and let them do their thing. But 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.800 I think to have a grounding point, the kind of 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.120 centering spot for somebody that's a little bit outside out 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.200 of that that circle that's say on the court. Will 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.360 I think it's important to have that because you can 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.120 kind of tell, you know, the guys of hey, there's 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.000 another perspective that needs to be offered here. Um So 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.840 I don't know that's my feeling. I mean, I think 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.720 that that's a great point. But I will go back 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.800 to your said you you are Stephen, You and James 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.400 have been like the head coach, and I understand that 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.160 you have help off the court, and those could be 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.600 like the GMS and the owners, right, but you guys 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.720 have head coach this thing. You also are the players 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.240 going out on the court, you know, I mean, you 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.720 guys have been been doing it all and I guess 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.360 to round out that at that point, I'm just saying 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.559 like it's it's damn impressive and it got David and 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.120 I just are head circling, like I wonder if players 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.079 could do that nowadays, you know on the in the 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.520 in the sports world. Well, what's interesting because Bruce arians 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.920 talked about it after the the goat Tom Brady you know, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.880 going to another Super Bowl, which is just bananas, and 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.199 he talked about that was one of the things that 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:55.120 he's he lets him coach on the field, and you know, 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.160 someone was talking to Brady about it, and I think 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.439 that was part of why him in Belichick butted heads, 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.200 because Belichick wanted to be the coach and wanted to 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.200 call the shots, and Arians is like, sometimes I just 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.440 let Tom, you know, do what Tom wants to do, 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.079 and obviously it's worked out for them. Yeah, I agree 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.040 with you as far as in the heat of battle, right, 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.839 I think that that having the on field coach or 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.040 being able to coach on the field, I think that, yeah, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.360 that that that is important and and the head coaches 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.080 should let those guys do that, especially when they're out there, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.640 they're in the trenches and they're really you know, taking 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.480 the hits. They know what's going on. Like it's one 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.440 thing to be calling the place from the sideline, but 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.480 to actually, you know, be on the field taking the 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.320 hits and seeing what's what's going on in you know, 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.240 real time. Yeah, it's important to have somebody that can 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:42.880 do that, you know, in that position. Yeah. Great, Um, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.200 all right now, James, you're a huge basketball fan, a 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.200 pretty skilled basketball player. You played in a bunch of celebrities, 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.840 A very skilled basketball player, very skilled, Uh in New Orleans. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.000 You played in this celeb game. I've thrown I've thrown 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.960 James Lafferty some lobs where he's caught them and uh, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.560 well at uh, I don't know if we ever connected 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.320 on a on a lab dunk. I think it was 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.640 like we got close a couple of times. But yeah, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.200 we did get a lot of a lot of Jared's 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:14.359 basketball plays in his head. Anyways, Off, it is possible. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.280 It is possible, But I'm curious it is you know, 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.920 having that relationship with basketball and for you, Stephen, having 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.280 a relationship with baseball and being a big baseball fan. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.040 And I'll ask James first, what have you taken from 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:30.080 the basketball court that you've brought, um, from that sport 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:34.560 into your acting or into your directing. That's a great question, um, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.800 And I think it's I think it's more than I 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.360 actually am conscious of. And the more I get older, 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.200 the more I realize how valuable my experience and UM 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.320 and with basketball was, UM and like my formative years, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.880 you know, just the ability to work with a team, UM, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.200 the ability to find and settle into your role, UM 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.400 and the ability to sort of you know, see the 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.520 court right, like see several things happening at the same time. 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.600 And basketball, to me is such a fluid game, right, 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.040 and there's so much that happens in the moment that 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.640 you don't have the advantage of, um a lot of 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.040 time to plan for your next move. You can study 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.120 the game tape, you can you know, really of the 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.640 game in your head after the game is over and 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.160 look back at things in hindsight and try to make 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:19.560 your adjustments from there. UM and and I think UM 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.280 film and television shooting is very much the same way. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.400 When you're on a set, things are moving so fast 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.040 and there are so many moving parts. There's so many 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.080 you know, there can be thirty to fifty people on 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.040 set at any given time, each of which is working 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.720 towards the same thing but has different individual objectives. So 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.200 there has to be a certain cohesiveness to all of 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.920 it and a connection to all of it. And to me, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.720 that is directly related, you know, it is is totally 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.000 parallel as what you're going through playing in a basketball game. 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.800 So um, you know, I actually I haven't touched the 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.120 ball for years now, which is like tragic to me. 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.280 And the more I the longer I go without actually 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.680 being on the court or playing, the more I miss 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.760 it and the more I actually have this light context 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.280 as perspective where I look back and I'm like, I 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.440 think the reason I'm missing it so much is because 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.240 it informs so much of what I did in my 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.600 outside life and the way that I lived, and and 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.160 it's and it's interesting too because you know, like I said, 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.639 we we've played basketball before and Stephen, all three of us. 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.920 And the cool thing about you two that I always 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:20.000 would tell people is how unselfish you are. You're such 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.320 you're such teammates, like it is unreal, Like it doesn't 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.720 matter if if Stevens scored a couple of buckets in 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.159 a row, or if James has scored ten points in 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.080 a row, like uh, you know, like you guys are 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:32.800 always like no, no, no, I don't want the ball again, 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.680 Like let's get everyone else involved. And I feel like 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.000 that translates not only to your friendships you know, um, 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.640 but also to now your professional you know, careers where 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.640 you have the power and you're the ones directing and 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:48.399 and kind of like spreading your DNA throughout everyone else. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.000 You know, the fact that you've played in a basketball 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:55.320 game with me where I made consecutive shots. I wish 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.119 I could hug. It's happened, Stephen, It's happened. It's one 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:00.680 thing to be on selfish in the core, but it's 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.760 also one thing to shoot a low percentage and just 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.280 give the ball ap. It's a big part about sports 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:09.040 and also and being on set and enacting in film 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.280 and TV is stay in your lane, know what you 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.359 do well, and you know what your weaknesses are. And 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.440 I think that you know too. Back to James and 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.800 I working together, I feel like we there's a common 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.840 sensibility of of um, you know what we set out 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.199 to do with this thing, but um also bringing you know, 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.760 different things to the table and understanding you know, our 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.920 strength to weaknesses and and you know, making that work. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.000 And that's that's you know, obviously big in sports and 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.000 a sport like like um like basketball and even baseball, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.120 you know, trusting the other people to do their job 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.000 and staying out of their way when you need to. 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.399 That's also how the game is the most fun. It 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.680 doesn't matter what game you're playing. It's like the game 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.840 is the most fun. I mean, I don't know about you, guys, 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.520 but I enjoy watching great teams play. There's nothing more 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.840