Speaker 1: From my arm Radio Common Enemy Contendum with TV the
Speaker 1: Pal Podcast Pal, Hey Pal with Jared and so this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a special episode. I know we say
Speaker 1: that a lot, but we just got I was talking.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Well, okay, I'm rapping Philly versus everybody. Mofo?
Speaker 1: Whoa mofo? Where did you get that? You never say mofo?
Speaker 1: Check that out? I hate this sh shop gold. Nobody
Speaker 1: can see you, but I'll let everyone know. He just
Speaker 1: pulled out a chain that was tucked in That is
Speaker 1: a Philadelphia Eagle. Um, you love it. You can put
Speaker 1: that away for the show. Put it away and don't
Speaker 1: and don't bring it out for our guests. Dave, how
Speaker 1: much did you love? Everyone is doing great? Absolutely loved it.
Speaker 1: I mean you called me. You never called me. First
Speaker 1: of all, you never call me, I mean there's no
Speaker 1: reason to. Second of all, you actually call me, and
Speaker 1: you're like wanting to talk about a show. And I
Speaker 1: know when you're genuinely excited, I did. I mean, this
Speaker 1: show is is brilliant. Um, you know, I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to have this dynamic duo on the show today. The
Speaker 1: dynamic dynamic is a great wrote they directed it, they
Speaker 1: acted in it, they started it, they did craft services
Speaker 1: for it. Should we should we do a show when
Speaker 1: we do all those things? Probably not, because I don't
Speaker 1: think it would be successful. Okay, well that's fair. We'll
Speaker 1: just leave it to Lafferty and COLLETTI right, let's see
Speaker 1: it to the professional. Yeah. So so everybody, look, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into the into the interview as soon as uh,
Speaker 1: you know, as soon as we can. Um. But this show,
Speaker 1: I just I just urge everyone to watch this show.
Speaker 1: It is just absolutely awesome on Hulu. On Hulu, you
Speaker 1: you rarely ever see we're like two actors are just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to go create my own thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna wear all the hats on it,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go and sell it to a
Speaker 1: place like Hulu. You know, that's a huge feat in itself,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna come out into the world and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, successful. And that's what this show
Speaker 1: is doing. And we are lucky enough to have gotten
Speaker 1: the two leads um of that show as their their pals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there there are pals, and you know, they did just
Speaker 1: an incredible job with it. It's super exciting to see
Speaker 1: them kind of take that on because it's a big
Speaker 1: endeavor to do something like this. And then of course
Speaker 1: on Hulu you have the opportunity to stream the entire
Speaker 1: series and binge it and one night, which is awesome,
Speaker 1: which is what I did. So, um, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's time for our next guest, Dave. And we've got
Speaker 1: two of them, not one. I mean, this is a big,
Speaker 1: big moment in Hey pal podcast history. We have a
Speaker 1: dynamic duo. We've got you know what I'm crapping up to, Yes,
Speaker 1: we do. We do have a dynamic duo. So our
Speaker 1: next guests have been all over your television sets for
Speaker 1: a very very long time. They are personal pals of ours.
Speaker 1: Stephen Colletti start in Laguna Beach and then made the
Speaker 1: leap over to meet James Lafferty on One Tree Hill,
Speaker 1: where now they start opposite each other in a brand
Speaker 1: new series on Hulu in which they co created, they
Speaker 1: co star, They've both directed, they write it. They I mean,
Speaker 1: the list goes on. Did you guys do craps? We
Speaker 1: just can we just bring them in? Stephen Colletti and
Speaker 1: James laughing on Hey boys, how you doing. That's good.
Speaker 1: We should probably note that due to budget reasons, we
Speaker 1: had to wear all the hats, so yes, we did
Speaker 1: do crap service and make up positions as well. It
Speaker 1: was awesome. You guys did an incredible job. A huge,
Speaker 1: huge fan of the show. Uh really enjoyed it. Caught
Speaker 1: myself laughing l O l NG, laughing out loud multiple times.
Speaker 1: So uh, really really great job guys. Um So speaking
Speaker 1: to your new show, Uh, you guys are a duo,
Speaker 1: and it made me think of sports duos. We you know,
Speaker 1: we talked sports here we talk entertainment. And one great
Speaker 1: sports duo was James Harden and Kevin Durant who played
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma City together and then they went their separate ways,
Speaker 1: much like you guys did. You guys were together on
Speaker 1: One Tree Hill, went your separate ways, did your own projects,
Speaker 1: and then now came back together, like James Harden and
Speaker 1: like Kevin Durrand who were playing in Brooklyn. Now now
Speaker 1: you guys came together to work on your project. So
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about what that was like
Speaker 1: and how it all came about. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was it was working on One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill together was obviously, you know, a dream, and that
Speaker 1: was when we were a lot younger. Like I think
Speaker 1: we met on that show when we were what like
Speaker 1: around twenty one Stephen two, something like that. I just
Speaker 1: remember going to a bar with a fake I d so,
Speaker 1: so maybe I was UM. And we spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time on that show, and you know, obviously grew
Speaker 1: very close and became friends. UM. But once it was
Speaker 1: time for us to sort of like phase into the
Speaker 1: next stage of our lives. You know, we we knew
Speaker 1: that we wanted to work on things behind the camera independently. UM.
Speaker 1: Stephen was writing, producing and I had been directing UM,
Speaker 1: and we knew that we wanted to work on something together.
Speaker 1: But it was really about just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what that right thing was gonna be. We didn't want
Speaker 1: to force it. We didn't want to just um start
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, just shooting you two half
Speaker 1: bank YouTube videos or something, which we had those that
Speaker 1: we had those ideas earlier. That way, Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: not worthy. We're glad that we took some years to mature. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And ultimately it just became about living I think it
Speaker 1: living enough life to get some perspective to be able
Speaker 1: to look back and get some perspective on what we
Speaker 1: had sort of gone through in this industry and how
Speaker 1: you know it took it took us, you know, a
Speaker 1: while to to sort of grow up and learn some
Speaker 1: hard lessons, um it. Yeah, it wasn't until then that
Speaker 1: we sort of looked at each other in our lives
Speaker 1: and were like, maybe there's a comedy here, Maybe there's
Speaker 1: some maybe there's a story that we can mind out
Speaker 1: of this and some funny stuff that we can mind
Speaker 1: out of this and really make people laugh and also
Speaker 1: sort of showcase what we feel like we can do
Speaker 1: behind the camera as well as in front of the camera.
Speaker 1: So that's sort of how how it came about. And
Speaker 1: so the thing with with k d And and Harden
Speaker 1: is like, you know, you're in each other's lives every day,
Speaker 1: right when they were in Oklahoma City, just like we'll
Speaker 1: use that example for that's One Tree Hill, and then
Speaker 1: they go their separate ways. They're both professionals, just like
Speaker 1: you guys are. James, You've gone on to do other
Speaker 1: shows and movies, and Steven has gone on to do
Speaker 1: other shows and movies. So they aren't able to really
Speaker 1: stay that much in in in contact. I know that
Speaker 1: you guys are are are very close just like they
Speaker 1: they formed a bond. You know, were you able to
Speaker 1: stay in contact as much as you like or or
Speaker 1: were you not? And then when you get back together,
Speaker 1: like what is that? You know? Is it like first
Speaker 1: day of school and like it's like, okay, the band,
Speaker 1: the band is back, kind of like they're feeling right
Speaker 1: now on the court. I feel like there was, like, thankfully,
Speaker 1: like a trust built up to that point where when
Speaker 1: it came time to shooting this thing. Well, I'll take
Speaker 1: you back a little bit more when we first sat
Speaker 1: down to talk about writing this thing and James came
Speaker 1: to me with with the idea originally and said, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to build this out with you. What do
Speaker 1: you think? And I think we both went in that
Speaker 1: first session of like, well, let's see how this goes. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, we enjoy having a beer together, but as
Speaker 1: far as you know business, we've worked together before in
Speaker 1: the past. We didn't have a ton of scenes together
Speaker 1: in one trial, but like, all right, you know, if
Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, um get serious about something, how
Speaker 1: is this you know, how is that working relationship in
Speaker 1: work and thankfully. After the first time we sat down
Speaker 1: and we're writing together, it felt like it went smoothly.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, um, we just both participated
Speaker 1: in a way that by the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I know, I had a sense of relief. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that that went well, um, and that we
Speaker 1: can continue forward because you just never know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm understanding his vision. I've got an idea,
Speaker 1: and when I kind of shared that with him, he
Speaker 1: seems to be receptive to that, and so I knew
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. I was like, sweet, exhale, I think this
Speaker 1: is gonna work. Let's move forward. I don't know where
Speaker 1: your experience was, James, Yeah, I mean it's similar. I guess.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like with with sports or with this
Speaker 1: or anything that you do. What you guys are doing
Speaker 1: with the podcast. You know, it's like everything is um.
Speaker 1: So much of it depends on chemistry, and so much
Speaker 1: of it depends on each individuals. Like when you're talking
Speaker 1: about a team of two people, uh, the ability to compromise, UM,
Speaker 1: and the ability to like you know, to listen to
Speaker 1: the other person. And UM, I mean, I'm so glad
Speaker 1: bringing up James because this is a good less and
Speaker 1: for Jared because he doesn't understand the word compromise. I
Speaker 1: don't think he needs to spell it. I don't think
Speaker 1: he knows the definition. So please go on. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I mean that's why you see so many you know,
Speaker 1: It's like you see these NBA super teams that get
Speaker 1: formed and for some reason they don't work, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: how can that not work? There was all these amazing
Speaker 1: players on this one team. There's all these all stars,
Speaker 1: and you're like, well it. I mean, it seems pretty
Speaker 1: clear to me after going through this process that the
Speaker 1: reason it doesn't work is because you have to have
Speaker 1: the right personalities mixing, and you have to have the
Speaker 1: right people that are willing to settle into certain roles
Speaker 1: for the good of the team. And I think that's honest,
Speaker 1: actually naturally to have that trust. I'll tell you, move
Speaker 1: that microphone away from that thing on your on your
Speaker 1: hoodie right where that it was just scratching a little bit.
Speaker 1: There you go. I was like, mud, wait, so let's
Speaker 1: let me ask you. Let me ask you this, who
Speaker 1: before we get to the next question, who is k
Speaker 1: D and who is hardened in this relationship. That's all
Speaker 1: we want to know, guys, that's all we want to know. Man. Uh,
Speaker 1: I would say it's like both shades, popping both sides
Speaker 1: because I feel like KDS a better baller, and I
Speaker 1: give I'll give James the better game before me. But
Speaker 1: but I'd like to think that I'm in a lot
Speaker 1: better shape than James on that front. I'm kidding. I'm
Speaker 1: getting like Superman over No, no, no, no, I think yeah, no, listen,
Speaker 1: you guys make the decision. I mean, it's it's it's close.
Speaker 1: There's there's pros and cons to both beards. I'm seen,
Speaker 1: maybe we've got Skype does a lot for my beard.
Speaker 1: I have to say it's a lot more wiry than
Speaker 1: it looks on camera. But to be honest, and I
Speaker 1: enjoyed your beard when you went off the deep end
Speaker 1: on the show where you just let it kind of
Speaker 1: grow everywhere with like all over the next bed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, how is he dealing with this right now?
Speaker 1: It's like that steel hair that you use in chem
Speaker 1: class in high school. It's just like bush, don't go anywhere. Hey,
Speaker 1: Pam will be right back after a word from our sponsors. Okay,
Speaker 1: so here here's the deal. Guys. We we watched the show.
Speaker 1: I've watched it multiple times. Um, we we love we
Speaker 1: love the show. And like we talked about at the top,
Speaker 1: you guys are wearing so many hats, right, Um, so
Speaker 1: we it got Dave and I, uh, you know, thinking
Speaker 1: about sports and how Dave was actually pointing out when
Speaker 1: when was this Dave in the seventies, how they used
Speaker 1: to uh there used to be well, you guys did
Speaker 1: so many like he said, you wore so many hats
Speaker 1: on this project. In the seventies, it was pretty popular
Speaker 1: for a major League baseball player to play and to
Speaker 1: also manage at the same time. So like Frank Robinson
Speaker 1: did it, Pete Rose did it later in like the eighties,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of something that was was pretty common.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, so we were yeah, just got us thinking, like,
Speaker 1: do you guys think that maybe, like with the six
Speaker 1: says that you're having. I know that that's in the
Speaker 1: entertainment field, right, but do you think that it would
Speaker 1: behoove like a Lebron James or somebody to not have
Speaker 1: a coach and to bring that back and to have
Speaker 1: like a player coach and and to and to wear
Speaker 1: those hats because because I'll tell you what, guys, Colletia
Speaker 1: and Lafferty, like, the reason that I think it's so
Speaker 1: good is because, and this is just obviously my opinion,
Speaker 1: but I think it's so good because you've you've been
Speaker 1: an actor, right, so you you've you've been an actor.
Speaker 1: You've seen what the director does, and you've seen what
Speaker 1: what a director needs to do to speak to his actors.
Speaker 1: And so now you're stepping in the director's chair and
Speaker 1: you know how to relate to other actors. You know
Speaker 1: how to get the best performance out of your supporting cast.
Speaker 1: You also know how to like coach yourself now because
Speaker 1: you've been through it. You know, you've been on the
Speaker 1: playing field for a while, so you know how to
Speaker 1: do do it all. And so, like does that translate
Speaker 1: to you, guys with with athletes, you think that they
Speaker 1: could get to a position where like if Lebron was
Speaker 1: coaching himself, you know that it would it would be
Speaker 1: better than than if like Frank Vogel was coaching the team.
Speaker 1: I would say that I think you need to have
Speaker 1: that um, that kind of foundation of somebody who's who's
Speaker 1: a little little a little further away from the painting.
Speaker 1: If you will, maybe it'll will step out of the
Speaker 1: team and who who can look from the outside perspective
Speaker 1: and you know, and so I don't know, I think that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had we've had a lot of help
Speaker 1: on this, the Nelms Brothers that James have worked with,
Speaker 1: Johnny Durango, Michelle Lange. These are like instrumental producers that
Speaker 1: came in and we're you know, if James and I
Speaker 1: were both on camera at the same time, um, you know,
Speaker 1: there to to guide us. Otherwise we would have just
Speaker 1: been you know, swimming in circles out there and see. So, um,
Speaker 1: I think it's important. And I will say, like it's
Speaker 1: funny when Frank Vogel went onto the Lakers, everyone was like, like,
Speaker 1: who's this guy? I think they were trying to get
Speaker 1: somebody else and then Vogel was like the second or
Speaker 1: third choice and everyone just kind of wrote them off.
Speaker 1: And I love how he stepped into the role and
Speaker 1: you know it. He knows when to stay out of
Speaker 1: the way right and let them do their thing. But
Speaker 1: I think to have a grounding point, the kind of
Speaker 1: centering spot for somebody that's a little bit outside out
Speaker 1: of that that circle that's say on the court. Will
Speaker 1: I think it's important to have that because you can
Speaker 1: kind of tell, you know, the guys of hey, there's
Speaker 1: another perspective that needs to be offered here. Um So
Speaker 1: I don't know that's my feeling. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that that's a great point. But I will go back
Speaker 1: to your said you you are Stephen, You and James
Speaker 1: have been like the head coach, and I understand that
Speaker 1: you have help off the court, and those could be
Speaker 1: like the GMS and the owners, right, but you guys
Speaker 1: have head coach this thing. You also are the players
Speaker 1: going out on the court, you know, I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys have been been doing it all and I guess
Speaker 1: to round out that at that point, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: like it's it's damn impressive and it got David and
Speaker 1: I just are head circling, like I wonder if players
Speaker 1: could do that nowadays, you know on the in the
Speaker 1: in the sports world. Well, what's interesting because Bruce arians
Speaker 1: talked about it after the the goat Tom Brady you know,
Speaker 1: going to another Super Bowl, which is just bananas, and
Speaker 1: he talked about that was one of the things that
Speaker 1: he's he lets him coach on the field, and you know,
Speaker 1: someone was talking to Brady about it, and I think
Speaker 1: that was part of why him in Belichick butted heads,
Speaker 1: because Belichick wanted to be the coach and wanted to
Speaker 1: call the shots, and Arians is like, sometimes I just
Speaker 1: let Tom, you know, do what Tom wants to do,
Speaker 1: and obviously it's worked out for them. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with you as far as in the heat of battle, right,
Speaker 1: I think that that having the on field coach or
Speaker 1: being able to coach on the field, I think that, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that that is important and and the head coaches
Speaker 1: should let those guys do that, especially when they're out there,
Speaker 1: they're in the trenches and they're really you know, taking
Speaker 1: the hits. They know what's going on. Like it's one
Speaker 1: thing to be calling the place from the sideline, but
Speaker 1: to actually, you know, be on the field taking the
Speaker 1: hits and seeing what's what's going on in you know,
Speaker 1: real time. Yeah, it's important to have somebody that can
Speaker 1: do that, you know, in that position. Yeah. Great, Um,
Speaker 1: all right now, James, you're a huge basketball fan, a
Speaker 1: pretty skilled basketball player. You played in a bunch of celebrities,
Speaker 1: A very skilled basketball player, very skilled, Uh in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: You played in this celeb game. I've thrown I've thrown
Speaker 1: James Lafferty some lobs where he's caught them and uh,
Speaker 1: well at uh, I don't know if we ever connected
Speaker 1: on a on a lab dunk. I think it was
Speaker 1: like we got close a couple of times. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we did get a lot of a lot of Jared's
Speaker 1: basketball plays in his head. Anyways, Off, it is possible.
Speaker 1: It is possible, But I'm curious it is you know,
Speaker 1: having that relationship with basketball and for you, Stephen, having
Speaker 1: a relationship with baseball and being a big baseball fan.
Speaker 1: And I'll ask James first, what have you taken from
Speaker 1: the basketball court that you've brought, um, from that sport
Speaker 1: into your acting or into your directing. That's a great question, um,
Speaker 1: And I think it's I think it's more than I
Speaker 1: actually am conscious of. And the more I get older,
Speaker 1: the more I realize how valuable my experience and UM
Speaker 1: and with basketball was, UM and like my formative years,
Speaker 1: you know, just the ability to work with a team, UM,
Speaker 1: the ability to find and settle into your role, UM
Speaker 1: and the ability to sort of you know, see the
Speaker 1: court right, like see several things happening at the same time.
Speaker 1: And basketball, to me is such a fluid game, right,
Speaker 1: and there's so much that happens in the moment that
Speaker 1: you don't have the advantage of, um a lot of
Speaker 1: time to plan for your next move. You can study
Speaker 1: the game tape, you can you know, really of the
Speaker 1: game in your head after the game is over and
Speaker 1: look back at things in hindsight and try to make
Speaker 1: your adjustments from there. UM and and I think UM
Speaker 1: film and television shooting is very much the same way.
Speaker 1: When you're on a set, things are moving so fast
Speaker 1: and there are so many moving parts. There's so many
Speaker 1: you know, there can be thirty to fifty people on
Speaker 1: set at any given time, each of which is working
Speaker 1: towards the same thing but has different individual objectives. So
Speaker 1: there has to be a certain cohesiveness to all of
Speaker 1: it and a connection to all of it. And to me,
Speaker 1: that is directly related, you know, it is is totally
Speaker 1: parallel as what you're going through playing in a basketball game.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, I actually I haven't touched the
Speaker 1: ball for years now, which is like tragic to me.
Speaker 1: And the more I the longer I go without actually
Speaker 1: being on the court or playing, the more I miss
Speaker 1: it and the more I actually have this light context
Speaker 1: as perspective where I look back and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: think the reason I'm missing it so much is because
Speaker 1: it informs so much of what I did in my
Speaker 1: outside life and the way that I lived, and and
Speaker 1: it's and it's interesting too because you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: we we've played basketball before and Stephen, all three of us.
Speaker 1: And the cool thing about you two that I always
Speaker 1: would tell people is how unselfish you are. You're such
Speaker 1: you're such teammates, like it is unreal, Like it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if if Stevens scored a couple of buckets in
Speaker 1: a row, or if James has scored ten points in
Speaker 1: a row, like uh, you know, like you guys are
Speaker 1: always like no, no, no, I don't want the ball again,
Speaker 1: Like let's get everyone else involved. And I feel like
Speaker 1: that translates not only to your friendships you know, um,
Speaker 1: but also to now your professional you know, careers where
Speaker 1: you have the power and you're the ones directing and
Speaker 1: and kind of like spreading your DNA throughout everyone else.
Speaker 1: You know, the fact that you've played in a basketball
Speaker 1: game with me where I made consecutive shots. I wish
Speaker 1: I could hug. It's happened, Stephen, It's happened. It's one
Speaker 1: thing to be on selfish in the core, but it's
Speaker 1: also one thing to shoot a low percentage and just
Speaker 1: give the ball ap. It's a big part about sports
Speaker 1: and also and being on set and enacting in film
Speaker 1: and TV is stay in your lane, know what you
Speaker 1: do well, and you know what your weaknesses are. And
Speaker 1: I think that you know too. Back to James and
Speaker 1: I working together, I feel like we there's a common
Speaker 1: sensibility of of um, you know what we set out
Speaker 1: to do with this thing, but um also bringing you know,
Speaker 1: different things to the table and understanding you know, our
Speaker 1: strength to weaknesses and and you know, making that work.
Speaker 1: And that's that's you know, obviously big in sports and
Speaker 1: a sport like like um like basketball and even baseball,
Speaker 1: you know, trusting the other people to do their job
Speaker 1: and staying out of their way when you need to.
Speaker 1: That's also how the game is the most fun. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what game you're playing. It's like the game
Speaker 1: is the most fun. I mean, I don't know about you, guys,
Speaker 1: but I enjoy watching great teams play. There's nothing more
Speaker 1: magical than watching an epic team play and whatever sport
Speaker 1: it is. And just like it's like that that alchemy
Speaker 1: that happens is something that is truly you know, great
Speaker 1: players they come and they go. There's a great player
Speaker 1: for every generation. You can argue whether or not they
Speaker 1: were better or worse than the one that came before them.
Speaker 1: But there since there's always gonna be sensational players. But
Speaker 1: every single team that comes together to do great things
Speaker 1: is so incredibly unique for so many different reasons. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what makes you love the game,
Speaker 1: is those teams. And so I feel like we have
Speaker 1: that similar sensibility with like, you know, the set that
Speaker 1: we try to build. It's like this can be, this
Speaker 1: can be that we can make this the greatest working
Speaker 1: experience that we've ever had and try to make that
Speaker 1: the same for everybody else. And when that's happening, when
Speaker 1: when it's when there's that vibe on set and that's
Speaker 1: what makes it special and that you feel that on
Speaker 1: the screen, like once that like that energy, it's it's
Speaker 1: somehow it translates, It translates, and it's sort of like
Speaker 1: seeps its way into whatever you're making and you can
Speaker 1: feel the difference between a project that was, um, you know,
Speaker 1: made for money and a project that was made for love.
Speaker 1: I really think you can. Yeah, absolutely, especially if you
Speaker 1: guys are in charge of craft services. You know, whether
Speaker 1: it brings sour Patch kids or not. Dave, I was
Speaker 1: just gonna tell you, and no, I can't spell alchemy,
Speaker 1: so don't don't, Okay, I just didn't want you to ask.
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. Hey, Pam will be right back after
Speaker 1: a word for our sponsors. But but Stephen, before I
Speaker 1: get to my next question, I do. I do agree.
Speaker 1: Like it's just the fact that you can, even um
Speaker 1: be so self aware to stay in your lane though
Speaker 1: you know, I know, we kid and you say like
Speaker 1: I don't score a lot of points and I gotta
Speaker 1: stay in my lane. But like that that is what
Speaker 1: makes you you because a lot of people will go like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but if they would give me the ball, I could
Speaker 1: score twenty in a row, like you know and the wise.
Speaker 1: But but but what I'm saying is like I'm just
Speaker 1: like I go back to like this show, and I
Speaker 1: really hope that everybody who's listening goes and watches uh
Speaker 1: this show because I'm just circling back to it on
Speaker 1: how floored I was and guys, I'm I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: like in it with you. Guys. You know, we've known
Speaker 1: each other since we were twenty one years old, and
Speaker 1: I am the most critical person of all the work,
Speaker 1: all the time. And I've texted James probably like twenty
Speaker 1: times going wait, how did you do this? And how
Speaker 1: did you do that? And godlie man, Steven this and
Speaker 1: Steven that, and it just is it's the fact that
Speaker 1: you can say things like stay in your lane that
Speaker 1: then allows you to have the perspective of going, that's
Speaker 1: that person's strengths. That's that person's strengths, and then you
Speaker 1: go and you empower them, and you know, it makes
Speaker 1: for better chemistry, makes for everybody being able to shine
Speaker 1: in their own light, you know, in a show like this,
Speaker 1: and and anyways, okay, I'll stop. I have my next
Speaker 1: question in really quick, James, you brought up a great
Speaker 1: point when you can see a team and all their elements,
Speaker 1: Like I'm a lunatic Sixers fan, see my team be
Speaker 1: good in years, But when you see a like a factory,
Speaker 1: like what Golden State did, what they're passing, you know,
Speaker 1: recently the last few years, or what san Antonio did.
Speaker 1: When you know, you just every player on that team,
Speaker 1: Like for the Spurs when they had Duncan and Genoboli
Speaker 1: and Parker, they knew their exact roles and what they
Speaker 1: had to do. And watching that, whether you're a fan
Speaker 1: of those teams or not, like watching Golden State, when
Speaker 1: you see those guys make those passes to that open guy,
Speaker 1: You're just like, this is incredible. Like everybody knows their role,
Speaker 1: everybody knows their spots. So I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: I feel you because the Spurs for so many years,
Speaker 1: like the Spurs of them, I was, I'm a Lakers fan,
Speaker 1: and I just I honestly despise them. And it's kind
Speaker 1: of like early Lebron James too. And then over time
Speaker 1: you see one how the Spurs pop a bit and
Speaker 1: they work. I went to a Laker game and and
Speaker 1: could hear Tony talking to Pop and and they're going
Speaker 1: through places, and I was like, man, respect for this team,
Speaker 1: Like the egos are checked at the door. Everyone knows
Speaker 1: their job, and I honestly started loving watching the team.
Speaker 1: And then Lebron after all these years, you've seen what
Speaker 1: he's done the pressure because early on it was easy
Speaker 1: to you know, he made himself low hanging fruit with
Speaker 1: the chosen one and all that, and so you would
Speaker 1: naturally just you know, almost wished to see him in
Speaker 1: a way and and and um, he hasn't. And then
Speaker 1: he's also been like a model citizen, like everything on
Speaker 1: and off the court. You gotta respect the hell lot
Speaker 1: of what that guy's done over the years. So he's
Speaker 1: respect everything but his hairline. But by the by the way,
Speaker 1: by the way, Steven, staying on this, on this parallel
Speaker 1: that we do on the show, that's exactly how I
Speaker 1: feel other people in the industry are gonna feel when
Speaker 1: they watch your show. Right, they're gonna go. They're gonna
Speaker 1: first go. You weren't even saying it out loud because
Speaker 1: you didn't mean it fully, but it was like a
Speaker 1: mouthing like fuck the spurs. They're gonna look at this
Speaker 1: show and go, fuck these guys. How the fuck did
Speaker 1: they go? And and we never cussed on the show,
Speaker 1: so sorry anyways, but you know, how did these guys
Speaker 1: go and and you know, fund it, how did they
Speaker 1: go and make it? How did they go and execute it?
Speaker 1: How did they go and wear all these hats, and
Speaker 1: then over time they're gonna study it and study it,
Speaker 1: and just like you started to respect him, they're gonna go, man,
Speaker 1: I respect these guys, And just like then, it probably
Speaker 1: motivated you, you know, to to now love that kind
Speaker 1: of basketball. It's going to motivate aspiring filmmakers or filmmakers
Speaker 1: that are already in the business to then go, man,
Speaker 1: I want to be like Stephen and James, and I
Speaker 1: want to go and do that. And you know what,
Speaker 1: it's just the kudos to you guys, because it's it's
Speaker 1: really awesome. I mean, I remember when you guys were
Speaker 1: coming had this these thoughts. I mean this was four
Speaker 1: and five years ago now, you know, and it's just
Speaker 1: been a long path and it's been, uh anyway, can
Speaker 1: we give a round of the place to them? Just
Speaker 1: just very impressive. I mean, it's impressive. Ship alright, Pal's
Speaker 1: That was the end of part one with James Lafferty
Speaker 1: and Stephen COLLETTI wait, what do you Why are you?
Speaker 1: Why are you stopping at part one because we are
Speaker 1: doing two parts now, Jared, Okay, but when is that
Speaker 1: going to air on Thursday? So I gotta wait two
Speaker 1: whole days. You gotta wait two days, buddy, all right,
Speaker 1: You just gotta wait two days for a lot of
Speaker 1: things in life, and now you just gotta wait. Continue.
Speaker 1: You wait to be successful, you wait to make money.
Speaker 1: What about a girlfriend waited for the touch of a
Speaker 1: warm touch from a woman. You've waited for all those things.
Speaker 1: You can wait two more days. Look, I'm sorry for interrupting. You.
Speaker 1: Just finish and we will be back with James Lafferty
Speaker 1: and Steven Colletti on Thursday for more hijinks, for more
Speaker 1: hay Pal, for more Pal, for hey more hay Pal.
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