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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the Bidding Pros

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Speaker 2: NFL podcast. I'm your host Dan Harris. With me, of course,

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Speaker 2: is Matt Parole, host of the Daily Juice podcast. You

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Speaker 2: can find him on Twitter at Sports Talk Matt. You

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Speaker 2: can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty Matt,

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's week fifteen, Yeah, and we're trying to close

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Speaker 3: hard here and two eighty percent over the last two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Can't beat it.

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Speaker 1: So we're hot. Now can we end the year hot?

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Speaker 2: Is the question that's right, And we've got i'll call

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Speaker 2: it an outside chance to finish in the money. We're

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Speaker 2: probably gonna need another four and one week, maybe even

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Speaker 2: a five and oher week, but we're in there now.

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Speaker 2: There are two weeks left in the draft Kings Pro

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Speaker 2: Pick Them Championship, and we have to take a bye

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Speaker 2: in one of the two weeks and we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But man, I hate this late I hate this slate.

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Speaker 2: I do not have any game that I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: really going to pick. So maybe you feel strongly about it,

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Speaker 2: will see, But in my mind, man, if you can

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Speaker 2: convince me that this is not the week to take

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Speaker 2: a bye, then I will be impressed. But let's get

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Speaker 2: into it. We're gonna go through every game on the

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Speaker 2: slate as we always do, and again Matt said, we

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Speaker 2: went four and one. Last week. We hit on the

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Speaker 2: Rams laying five and a half to the Patriots. Again,

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Speaker 2: that was a Thursday night one. Matt tweeted out, I

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Speaker 2: hope you were following him again at Sports Talk Matt.

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Speaker 2: Kudos to Matt who was all over that game last week.

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Speaker 2: It was like pott it on the table and to

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Speaker 2: the extent he broke a peraltism, which is never ever

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Speaker 2: bet on a favorite laying five and a half, but

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Speaker 2: we did and it worked out. We also hit on

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Speaker 2: the Bucks slaying six and a half to the Vikings,

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Speaker 2: the Colts slaying three and a half to the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: and the Ravens laying one and a half to the

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Speaker 2: Browns in a pretty entertaining game. The only loss we

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Speaker 2: had was the Steelers getting two and a half from

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Speaker 2: the Bills, which Matt, I don't know you a minute

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Speaker 2: left in the first half, I was feeling really good

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Speaker 2: about that. Bet. Yeah, I thought that that was gonna

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Speaker 2: be one that we're gonna walk away with. And then

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Speaker 2: the second half man, the Bills just totally adjusted and

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Speaker 2: the Steelers weren't able to do anything about it. So

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Speaker 2: four and one whatever. Again, We've got one bye week

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Speaker 2: left to go, so we might do it this week,

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Speaker 2: we may do next week. We'll have to see. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Matt. I want to see what you've got,

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Speaker 2: So start us off. Let me know, give me a

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Speaker 2: pick that you're feeling kind of good about this week.

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Speaker 3: All right, So you know, one of the benefits of

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Speaker 3: doing these contests is that I'm in a bunch of

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Speaker 3: other contests, so I can bring some of the picks

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Speaker 3: that I already have locked in or I know that

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Speaker 3: we're going to take and those contests and bring it

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Speaker 3: to our contest. It's kind of how it's worked out

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Speaker 3: where my bets and the contest picks have kind of

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Speaker 3: run similarly. So these are three picks that we're going

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Speaker 3: to use this week. There's no real particular order for it,

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Speaker 3: but we can start with my team because it's my team,

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Speaker 3: and I think the world is wrong about where the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins are right now. I think the Dolphins are banged up.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a rookie quarterback. I'm getting two and

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Speaker 3: a half points with the Pageots and a massive bounce

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Speaker 3: back spot Patriots, I believe will win this game outright.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the Patriots plus two and a half.

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Speaker 2: You know, I like this game, and it was one

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Speaker 2: of the few that was on my list of like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel this way. I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: anytime you're giving me Bill Belichick versus a rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 2: I'm always like, yeah, all right, fire that up. The

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Speaker 2: Dolphins are just decimated at the end. I mean, mikea

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Speaker 2: SICKI did return to practice, but I can't imagine he's

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Speaker 2: gonna play. I don't know what's going on with a

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. There's no Jaquim Grant. It's just kind

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Speaker 2: of a mess. You've got the Patriots coming off a

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Speaker 2: can kind of lick their wounds and get back into it.

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Speaker 2: Whether or not they're still mathematically alive for a playoff

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Speaker 2: spot doesn't really matter. I think they're gonna come out.

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Speaker 2: But Matt, the one thing is I don't really feel

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Speaker 2: like I have a great read on this team. I

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Speaker 2: feel like you have you know when they're gonna play well,

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Speaker 2: you know when they're not. Why do you think they're

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Speaker 2: gonna play well here? I mean, is it just that

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Speaker 3: Well, it's that, but it's won the extra time too.

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Speaker 3: It's the fact that I think the Patriots defense, much

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Speaker 3: like the way that they beat the Chargers, they confuse

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Speaker 3: rookie quarterbacks like no end. I mean, they beat the

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Speaker 3: Charges forty five nothing two. I don't think two is

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Speaker 3: the guy. My biggest fear in this game is that

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Speaker 3: Ryan Fitzpatrick gets inserted at halftime and the Patriots lose.

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Speaker 3: So if two was in the game for all four quarters,

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Speaker 3: if Brian Flores is gonna be this is my guy,

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Speaker 3: I'm riding to it to the end. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna do what I did in the Denver game where

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Speaker 3: Denver totally befuddled him and then they pulled him out.

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Speaker 3: I think the same thing happens here. I think he

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Speaker 3: doesn't have his weapons. If you look at some of

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Speaker 3: the yarded separations for the receivers, the Dolphins are like

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Speaker 3: dead last in separation right now, and that's when they're healthy,

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Speaker 3: and they're not healthy at all. You got a good

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Speaker 3: second over the Patriots. You got Look, anytime you tell

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Speaker 3: the Patriots the year is over, this is where they win.

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Speaker 1: This is where they rise up.

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Speaker 3: And they've already beat in the Dolphins once this year,

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Speaker 3: so I know, historically speaking, everyone's going to use the

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Speaker 3: stat that I think it's one in four over the

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Speaker 3: last five straight up for the Patriots in Miami over

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Speaker 3: the last five years, or sorry in December or later,

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Speaker 3: over the last five meetings.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: This is a game the Patriots normally lose. But I

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Speaker 3: just think this is a game where you've got too

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Speaker 3: many injuries from Miami. They can't move the football on

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Speaker 3: good defenses, and they rely on their defense to turn

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Speaker 3: the football over, but mostly it's with interceptions. As long

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Speaker 3: as the Patriots don't fumble the football away, I think

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Speaker 3: they find creative ways to move the ball on the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: And I think everyone thinks that the Patriots are done

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Speaker 3: and plus two and a half give me the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's again, it's one of the games

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Speaker 2: of like it. I'm not totally against it, which is

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Speaker 2: I'm on the other side. So that's that's something where

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Speaker 2: I think we put in the consensus generally split fifty

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Speaker 2: five on Miami, but the contentsus spread is one and

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Speaker 2: a half right now, not two and a half. So

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm fine with it. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: good bounce back spot for the Pats. And again I

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Speaker 2: trust Bill Belichick, although Flores is a fine coach, but here, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we don't. We don't love to h we don't, especially

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Speaker 1: I'll start, Oh, wait, so you do have games.

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Speaker 2: Oh you just want to go, you can go.

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Speaker 1: I don't games, So just what games out?

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Speaker 2: You go with a couple, then you start with yours,

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Speaker 2: because it is true like I'm essentially forcing myself to

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Speaker 2: pick one or two. But you go ahead with a couple,

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Speaker 2: and then when you run out, I will throw maybe

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Speaker 2: a couple of light leans I have if you haven't

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Speaker 1: No, there's three.

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Speaker 3: There's three games that the uncomfortable playing. I think this

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Speaker 3: new found Mitchell Trubitsky's a good quarterback thing is hysterical.

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Speaker 3: I think this is like fool's gold to the tenth

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Speaker 3: degree fools gold. So the Houston Texans are trash. They

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Speaker 3: are they are awful, and everyone's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: could Triubitsky have a chance to start? Could he be

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Speaker 3: back next year? This isn't the Vikings are gonna kill

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Speaker 3: the Bears this weekend. This is this is going to be.

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Speaker 3: I think the Vikings are going to wipe the field

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Speaker 3: with Chicago this weekend. And because they got something to

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Speaker 3: play for, the Bear's got nothing to play for. And

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Speaker 3: the second that you give Tribitsky any love or anything

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Speaker 3: of a praise, it's when this dude falls on his face,

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Speaker 3: laying three and a half. I don't care Vikings minus

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Speaker 3: three and a half over the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Big So I had five games Matt, five games where

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Speaker 2: I was like, I have a lean on these games.

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Speaker 2: I don't love these games, but I have a lean

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Speaker 2: on them. And the rest legitimately fell into these are

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Speaker 2: toss ups. If Matt has like a strong feeling on them,

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Speaker 2: I'll be able to be talked into it. But not

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Speaker 2: something where I'm definitely going after and you have picked

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Speaker 2: two of the ones where I've had a lean on

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Speaker 2: Vikings laying three and a half to the Bears. I

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Speaker 2: completely agree. I mean it's I feel like Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: a fade Kirk Cousin spot. This is a by Kirk

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Speaker 2: which is what you're saying, which I'm completely fine with.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that the Vikings are not a

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Speaker 2: terrible football team. I don't think Kirk Cousins is a

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Speaker 2: terrible quarterback. It's just much more of when everybody tries

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Speaker 2: to buy into him than I'm like no, no, no no,

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Speaker 2: or when it looks like he's a world beater, then

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Speaker 2: you're like no, no, no, man, you're done for here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I agree. I have the Vikings winning this game big,

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Speaker 2: at least I lean that way, So I am good

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Speaker 2: with that one. This is shocking to me that I

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Speaker 2: had five like lean leans and you're just like coming

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Speaker 2: and firing on two of them. So go ahead with

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Speaker 2: your third one. If you hit three out of three.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm gonna do, but.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, all right, this is a third and this

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Speaker 3: is a numbers play, all right. I don't love this,

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Speaker 3: but Dallas Cowboys are catching three and a half points here.

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Speaker 3: Dallas is I don't like the Elliott injury, making me

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Speaker 3: a little skittish, But I think when you have home

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Speaker 3: dogs late in the year, I think you got to

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Speaker 3: take a long, hard look at them and kind of

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Speaker 3: try to go, Okay, what's the most logical thing that's

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Speaker 3: gonna happen. And I think Dallas is in a pretty

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Speaker 3: good spot here, catching three and a half points at home,

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Speaker 3: and look, San Francisco can run the football, okay. And

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Speaker 3: I know people are saying Nick Mullins, and this is

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Speaker 3: a team on the road. Why is Dallas a three

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Speaker 3: and a half point dog to anybody at home in

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Speaker 3: the NFC that's going a losing record like the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers. I'll take the three and a half points

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Speaker 3: here and take a three point loss to forty to

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Speaker 3: San fran at home and cover on the hook Dallas

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Speaker 3: plus three and a half.

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Speaker 2: I have been on both sides of this game, Matt, like,

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Speaker 2: I can't get a feel for it. It strikes me

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Speaker 2: this one, to me, Matt, seems like the most public

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a public play.

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you the bag men showed up today

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Speaker 3: Why, bag bag bags of money showed up on the

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Speaker 3: I think Stefanski is either the finalist or the coach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been so impressed with Stefanski and I have

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Speaker 2: by the way, for futures bet, and maybe we'll talk

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Speaker 2: mean that makes it easier probably for Richard Higgins, which

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Speaker 2: So for me at four and a half, it feels public.

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Speaker 2: of feels like it's okay to be public sometimes everything.

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Speaker 3: I think actually the public will sit, will shie away

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 3: right that they expected Baker to fall in his face

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Speaker 3: on Monday Night football and they expected, you know that

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I really like this team, man, I really do like.

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Speaker 2: Their running game is great. I think Baker's playing really

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Speaker 2: All right, So there's one I have no idea how

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Speaker 2: you're gonna feel about this one, Matt, I really don't,

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Speaker 2: because you are a noted Bills hater, but you will

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Speaker 2: back them at the right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've already teased this game, so I'm already invested.

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Speaker 3: So you're taken the Bills. I'm not gonna hate it.

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Speaker 2: I actually wasn't. I was going to take the Broncos

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Speaker 2: you teased it to to what I have?

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Speaker 1: Pick?

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Speaker 2: Oh, to a pick?

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Speaker 3: I got it at six, brought the Packers down to two. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I do like that Saturday two leg teaser coming down.

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Speaker 3: I'm totally ripping this off from from Austin Gale from

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Speaker 3: it and I tailed it, so I can't. I can't

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Speaker 3: that's all right to taking the Bills to a pick

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do. I do think that the Bills

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Speaker 2: it is something where six and a half again, I'd

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Speaker 2: they're so injured and the Bills are playing at such

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Speaker 1: You know, I hate Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm the captain of the Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I'm concerned about is like, what does

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Speaker 3: What's the angle? Who's playing for?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what are they getting up for? I mean,

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Speaker 3: Buffalo is playing for everything right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's true. I mean, if you want to

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Speaker 2: it's a nationally televised game that they're going to be

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Speaker 2: So it strikes me as a backdoor cover sort of game.

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Speaker 1: That it's a good teaser.

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Speaker 2: It's a good tea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's one day.

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Speaker 3: It's Saturday, so it gives you something on the Saturdays,

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, so let's put that game to

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Speaker 2: which I can't imagine you're gonna be okay with this,

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Speaker 2: And you bet them, kudos to you. What did you

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Speaker 3: Or I bet that's big to win the West when

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Speaker 3: they are one game behind Seattle at plus two to

433
00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:30,640
Speaker 3: sixty five.

434
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,919
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they're a legitimate team. Kudos to you. Know,

435
00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,159
Speaker 2: I thought when Wade Phillips left on the defense, but

436
00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,520
Speaker 2: Staley has really done a good job. Their defense is legitimate,

437
00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,000
Speaker 2: their offense is good enough, and cam Akers is good.

438
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 2: The Jets have an okay run defense actually, but I

439
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,320
Speaker 2: think Acres will be good enough. And if not, then

440
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,760
Speaker 2: I think golf that Jets don't get pressure. That's what

441
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,760
Speaker 2: messes up with Goff. I think he's gonna be able

442
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 2: to pick them apart with Woods and Cup and the

443
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 2: Jets are so abysmal that like a normal number where

444
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 2: you look at sixteen and a half points, Yeah, that's

445
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 2: value on the Jets.

446
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,920
Speaker 1: Right again on the rams. It's value on the rams. Well,

447
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm with you if if you want to lay this,

448
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm okay.

449
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 3: I I've seen people that I respect say that they

450
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,600
Speaker 3: would lay this number up to thirty that they wouldn't

451
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,880
Speaker 3: and they aren't even not even kidding, Like they're legitimately

452
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 3: like they're gonna run the ball and they're going to

453
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 3: just run it and run it and run it and

454
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,479
Speaker 3: run it. And the game's gonna be a where very

455
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 3: quickly the Jets are not going to score anything. Yeah,

456
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,680
Speaker 3: and they'll probably turn the ball over two or three

457
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 3: times and it's gonna be like a thirty five nothing win.

458
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 2: Right, It's very difficult. I mean again, and you saw Seattle,

459
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,880
Speaker 2: Seattle like lives to play one score games like they

460
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 2: do whatever they can to Seattle. You know, won that

461
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 2: game so ridiculously easy. I the Rams have. You know,

462
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,119
Speaker 2: there's blood in the water right now. They are. They

463
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 2: are really rolling. They're gonna trying to put away that division.

464
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it really strikes me as just

465
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 2: a game where they're gonna win by like twenty five points.

466
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 3: I don't think you can put a line high enough

467
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 3: to be quite honest, we're I mean, like the whole deal.

468
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 3: I talk about this on the Daily Juice a lot,

469
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 3: but like, what is a line. A line is a

470
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 3: number that the book makers put up so the professionals

471
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 3: will take the dog, right, That's what a line is.

472
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: That's all it ask.

473
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 3: Okay, they're trying to set a number there because the

474
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 3: publics can take a favorite all ways, they all take

475
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 3: the favorite. So how high can I put the number

476
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 3: up so we get the money coming in on the

477
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 3: other side. And I don't know if they can set

478
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 3: a number high enough to get the pros to come in.

479
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 2: Here on the Jets, yeah, and it's already moving up.

480
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 2: It's already at seventeen and a half. Just realistically, the

481
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 2: Jets are one of these teams that you realistically cannot

482
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 2: back no matter what under any circumstances. And yeah, occasionally

483
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 2: they cover, like and they showed up against the Raiders

484
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 2: that time where we had the Raiders Lenks having and

485
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 2: a half points. But with this the defense is too

486
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: strong I think for the Rams. Ye, all right, we'll

487
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 2: get it there, let's go through. Then that's it for me.

488
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm done. Do you have any others that you have

489
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 2: leans on or you want to just turn that?

490
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 1: Not really?

491
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: I mean I think I have gone back and forth.

492
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 3: I text you before. I don't want to use it.

493
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 3: I'm just making this a proclamation. It's going to be

494
00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 3: a bet that I'm making. But I'm taking the Saints

495
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 3: to beat the Chiefs.

496
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so let's talk about that a little bit,

497
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 2: you like. So the Saints are what getting two and

498
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 2: a half from the Chiefs in casey right.

499
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 3: Which is an awful line, by the way, which is

500
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 3: not which I'm really mad at DraftKings are putting that

501
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 3: line there. That's a joke, cause that line's gonna close

502
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: at three and a half, right, So they put it

503
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: at two and a half thinking the money would come

504
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 3: the other way.

505
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

506
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 3: They thought that Drew Brees was playing and thus everyone

507
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 3: would come crashing in on the Saints.

508
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: So that's why they put it at two and a half.

509
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 3: With this line under three, it's not playable for us

510
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 3: because of that reason. But yeah, I look, I think

511
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 3: this Saints team is going to put together a type

512
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 3: of performance that the Patriots had a couple of weeks

513
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 3: ago against the Chargers, where everybody was like, oh, oh,

514
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: they're not gonna be able to score, they can't do anything,

515
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: and then Sean Payton comes up with a crazy game

516
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: plan that takes advantages and exploits everything with the Casey's

517
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 3: Chief defense can't do. And they're coming off of an

518
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 3: embarrassing loss to the Eagles, and the Chiefs are just

519
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 3: treading water. I mean they much like this, like the

520
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: Steelers will benefit from a loss here before they go

521
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: to the postseason. They need to figure things out and

522
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: they need to kind of get back and write the

523
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: ship a little bit, because I think everything is trending

524
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 3: in the wrong direction for the Chiefs right now and

525
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 3: they don't have a killer instinct.

526
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: They're bored.

527
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 3: They're not playing tight or tough games for four quarters,

528
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: and I think that could really burn them. In the playoffs,

529
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 3: come a fourth quarter team that may be able to

530
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: rise up and come back on them and knock them out.

531
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 3: So I think they lose this game to the States

532
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: on Sunday.

533
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I mean we talked about it. I don't

534
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 2: know if I can get there. I mean I with

535
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 2: two and a half, I can't get there. I know, Like, yeah,

536
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 2: we talked about it, and the consensus line right now

537
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 2: is at three. I like where your head is at

538
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: with it. And we talk about all the time there

539
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 2: is something missing with the Chiefs, right, I mean even

540
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 2: this last game against the Dolphins, and you actually in

541
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 2: one of the other contests, you had the Chiefs right

542
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: over the Dolphins. What was it seven seven and a half?

543
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: Uh seven?

544
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Yeah, so they they could have put that

545
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 2: game away pretty easily.

546
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 3: And I mean they threw three interceptions in that football

547
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: game and they still could have covered and they didn't.

548
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: I know, I mean I was just like, I mean

549
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: that's why two and the Dolphins they did nothing, and

550
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: that with all those turnovers, they should have won that game.

551
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: With all the turnovers, I mean, Chiefs.

552
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: Were literally handing them the football game and they couldn't

553
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: take it if they do that with the Saints.

554
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: The Saints are taking it.

555
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's you're making good points. We're

556
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: not gonna put in the contest. But I am thinking

557
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: about how I will bet it, generally speaking, And yeah,

558
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: I was surprised that it was two and a half,

559
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: especially after the Saints lost to the Eagles. But yeah,

560
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: it's an interesting it's interesting. I'll take a closer look.

561
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna watch the I'm gonna wait and I'm

562
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: gonna watch the public bet against it, and I'll take

563
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: I'll sprinkle on the money line, but I'll take as

564
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 3: many points as you want to give me here on

565
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 3: the Saints, and I'm hoping to get over three, three

566
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 3: and a half to four, whatever it might be. And

567
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: then you know, look, if it got really stupid, it

568
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: won't get there. But it ever got to like six,

569
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: then fine, I would tease it down and I would

570
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 3: take the Chiefs. But I think this is a game

571
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: where you may need s Sir Patrick Mahomes magic coming

572
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: back late, trying to drive this team down the field

573
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 3: to win a football game, and I don't know if

574
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 3: you can do that against the Saints.

575
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, Well, I like where your head is at.

576
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: I don't have you know, the intestinal fortitude depend against

577
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes at this moment, but I get it. All right,

578
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: Let's get to some of the other games here. What

579
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: do you think about the Packers are laying eight and

580
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: a half to the Panthers in Green Bay. I know

581
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 2: you accuse it down.

582
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Saturday game. I don't like the number being over

583
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 3: seven there. I think they win the football game. I

584
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 3: think they'll win it by seven. It's it's just it's

585
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 3: a number for me. I don't like that number. I

586
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: don't think it's a blowout victory. But I do think

587
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 3: they win the game by seven.

588
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I you know, I it's not Bridgewater

589
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: generally speaking. If you're giving Bridgewater a big line, I'm

590
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: always I always like him as the possibility to cover.

591
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: But I'm not backing the Panthers.

592
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: No, He's Teddy covers man, It's what he does.

593
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: I know.

594
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: He just he covers big lines like crazy because he

595
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 3: throws the football around.

596
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: But they're not.

597
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: I mean, DJ Moore is out of this game now

598
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: in Oh he is in.

599
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: He's in. He's okay the team to play, So that

600
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: that's also something where that's bi. Yeah, yeah, he's back,

601
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: so he's gonna be in the game. But I still

602
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: there's no Christian McCaffrey.

603
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: He's out.

604
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: You know, Mike Davi has been a fine film. But

605
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: the problem with the Packers is I feel like the

606
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: Packers could just as easily win a game by forty

607
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: as they could keep it really close at this point, right,

608
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: So it's hard ever for me to basically be like, well,

609
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: there's value. You know, Teddy's gonna cover, because I really

610
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: just I don't have a good sense of when Aaron

611
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: Rodgers is just gonna be like, this is kind of

612
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: an f you game I'm putting up. You know, I'm

613
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: throwing five touchdo busses, so I'd leave it alone. How

614
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: do you feel about the Bucks laying five and a

615
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: half to the Falcons in Atlanta? It's your magic paralism,

616
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you prefer the Falcons or

617
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: if you just don't like either side.

618
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: It's a no play.

619
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 3: But I mean it's it's a game where the paral

620
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: two team teaser that will happen on Sunday is eyeballing

621
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: the Bucks big time if it gets to six, and

622
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: I can tease it down. I will use it in

623
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: a teaser. I think the Bucks will win the football game.

624
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: I think the Atlanta Love is gonna calm down a

625
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 3: little bit this week. But I mean, you know, I

626
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: gotta see injuries. You know, Julio's playing, right.

627
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: He's been so out. I think he hasn't been declared out,

628
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: but the coach, you know, they said basically earlier in

629
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: the week that he is quote week to week and

630
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: when you're weak to week in week fifteen, and he's

631
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: not practicing, So I bet he's going to be out,

632
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: and I think you can bet it that way.

633
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if he's out, I think that I like if.

634
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: I just like the Bucks to win the football game.

635
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: But there is definitely something wrong with the Bucks. Yes,

636
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: and their offense is a is a problem. I think,

637
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: you know, much like what I thought was going to happen.

638
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: I thought they'd make the playoffs as a wild card team.

639
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: I bet them to win ten games. I think they'll

640
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: win ten games. They've got eight need two more wins.

641
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: You beat the Falcons twice and you got the ten

642
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: wins you need. They got the Lions next week as well,

643
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: and I just think that this But when you look

644
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 3: at how they scored. They got a lot of really

645
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: good breaks in that football game last week that let

646
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: it become a blowout. Yep, it wasn't so much of

647
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: their offense, you know, going up there and throw up

648
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: a big number. I mean that Gronk pass interference call

649
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 3: at the end of the half. Yeah, I mean when

650
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: have you seen that thing get called? Yeah, Like, nobody

651
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: gets that call, and they got it for you know,

652
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: score late before half and whatnot. So I'm still not

653
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: sold that this team actually likes playing in this offense

654
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: for Bruce arians, but I am comfortable hearing them to

655
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: win the football game.

656
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. I don't And again,

657
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: the Falcons are decent. You know, their defense is decent.

658
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: They've been playing better over the last several weeks. So yeah,

659
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: I'm with you. It just kind of a stay away

660
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: from me. What about the Titans laying ten and a

661
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: half to the Lions in Tennessee.

662
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: It's just too much.

663
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, ten and a half for this

664
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: Titans team is just like, what, like, I just can't

665
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: do it. I think they win the game, obviously, And

666
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: this is another game that I may look to teas

667
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: as well. If I can get that thing down, you know,

668
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: if I get it down closer to three, I'll be

669
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: more comfortable teasing it and taking the Titans.

670
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: But ye, I mean Stafford's playing right, Nope, he's out

671
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: for sure.

672
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: Nope, he's not not either one, not either one.

673
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: We just don't know.

674
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: I am. When I'm considering it from a betting perspective

675
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: and from a fantasy perspective, I'm assuming he's out. He

676
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 2: hasn't practiced this week. They're going nowhere, he's banged up.

677
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be Chase Daniel.

678
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, then maybe I would consider it, but

679
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 3: it's still double digits, so it's still it's still a lot.

680
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 3: But I mean again, this would be definitely if it is.

681
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: If Stafford's out, I'll tease this for sure, this will

682
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: be part of my teaser.

683
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is one. Realistically, I don't love it

684
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: or anything like that. But I'm actually, well, I don't

685
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: love it. If I had to pick a side, it

686
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: probably would be the Tits. I mean, just you saw

687
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: what they did. Derek Henry's gonna run for two hundred

688
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: yards in this come and it's just gonna They're gonna

689
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: be able to do whatever they want to do offensively,

690
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: and it's just a matter off. If Stafford is in

691
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: then I can see sort of the you know, Stafford

692
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: manages to have the back door covers and keep things close.

693
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: If it's Chase Daniel who barely throws the ball past

694
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, I don't know. I'd almost feel

695
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: okay with them laying even the ten and a half.

696
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 2: It's a big number. It's a big number, but I

697
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: think i'd actually probably feel okay with it if it

698
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: were Daniel. But anyway, let's go to the next one.

699
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: Colts link seven and a half to the Texans in Indianapolis.

700
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: All right, so we know the Texans are done right

701
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: and after last week that they're pretty much toast.

702
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: Yep, the Colts will have a monster victory.

703
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm just a little concerned that they start believing their

704
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: own press clippings in this game. And it's a divisional game,

705
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: so over seven and a half is over sevens wide

706
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 3: didn't like it, but I do think the Colts are

707
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: going to beat the Texans here, and I do think

708
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: I think it's it's a quick game. Run the football,

709
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: get out of there with a win, don't worry about

710
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: the margin.

711
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. It's not a game that

712
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: I want to go near. And again, we saw two

713
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: weeks ago where we wound up being on the right

714
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: side even though we run on the right side, which

715
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: you knew because you didn't like that game. I talked

716
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: into it and then we went with Then we won, yay,

717
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: even though we were clearly the wrong side. I do

718
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: think that the Texans are going to be able to

719
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: keep this one close. I think the Colts are going

720
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: to win for sure, But I do think the Texans

721
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: over a touchdown. I just can't because Watson. The Colts

722
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: defense is not strong enough to prevent Deshaun Watson from

723
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: doing Deshaun Watson things, you know, especially he's got perhaps

724
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Brandon Cook's back, which it looks like he might, so

725
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: it's a stay away from me. I agree. This one's

726
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: interesting though, Matt. How do you feel about Washington getting

727
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: five and a half from the Seahawks in Washington?

728
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Alex Smith is out right.

729
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: We don't know. But if Alex Smith is out I

730
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: think about it both ways, mad because I do kind

731
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: of have pretty different feelings on the game depending on

732
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: who's that quarterback. If Alex Smith is in, I kind

733
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: of like Washington. If he's not, I kind of like Seattle.

734
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: I know it's five and a half, but you know,

735
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: is Gibson playing.

736
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: No, Gibson's almost certainly not gonna play.

737
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: So if Gibson and Smith are out, yes, the other side,

738
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: I'm totally comfortable taking the sealess, totally comfortable, So.

739
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: I might leave that one then on the side to

740
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: say that one's going in if and I think that's

741
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. Smith may play. He may play at

742
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: this point because he's sort of trending up and everything

743
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: like that.

744
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: But that what's make them in the first half too.

745
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know he was numbers. Yeah,

746
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: his numbers in the first half are horrible. In the

747
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: second half, he like, I don't know what happens, but

748
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: he just he just starts playing like Joe Montana on

749
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: the second half.

750
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: He's great.

751
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I love Alex. I mean, I think

752
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: this whole story is amazing, and I've actually always liked him.

753
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: I've always thought he was kind of an underrated QB.

754
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this is one where if it

755
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: is Haskins, and I feel pretty confident Gibson's out. But

756
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: if it's if it's Haskins and there's no Gibson, Yeah,

757
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: this just strikes you. The defense is legitimate for Washington

758
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: without question. But with that offense, even though it's a paratism,

759
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: I would feel okay.

760
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: With doing it. Yeah, it's I don't like it.

761
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: I don't like playing it, But given the circumstances, I

762
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: think the line would be much different if Alex Smith

763
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: gets ruled out.

764
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that line's five and a half. I

765
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: think it's gonna go over seven most right now.

766
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 2: It's steady at five and a half. That's where it is,

767
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: and it's basically on the bed anal lizer. It's split

768
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: down the middle, which I think it's fair. I think

769
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: five and a half at this point, assuming that Smith

770
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: does play, that's a pretty fair line.

771
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: That well, yeah, because the defense for Seattle is awful.

772
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: Right well, it's Flay. It's playing a little better of late.

773
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: It's playing a little better of late now that you

774
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: know Adams is back healthy. It's playing a little better.

775
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: But I agree, it's not it's not great and Washington.

776
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean the thing about Russell Wilson right now, who

777
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: you know is one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

778
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, he's taking a ton of sacks

779
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: at this point. He's making some poor decisions at time,

780
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: which is like the anti Russell Wilson. If you're gonna

781
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: give me that defense and the pressure they're going to

782
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: get on Wilson, you know, it's a little Carson Wentzy

783
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: in the way he's like holding the ball way too long,

784
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: way too long, and then eventually he's just sacked. Then

785
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's something where I think they might be

786
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: able to keep the ball close, but again they game close.

787
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: But again, if it's Dwayne Haskins, forget it, Like I'm

788
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: just not going anywhere near. How about the Ravens length

789
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half to the Jaguars in Baltimore.

790
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: I just talk about letdown spot, right, I mean, just

791
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: you're you're asking for the Jags to come out and

792
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: cover that line, and that is just a perfect there is.

793
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: Just if you want to talk about the one double

794
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: digit line where I'm comfortable taking the thirteen and a half,

795
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: it's Jacksonville. I would be comfortable taking that plus thirteen.

796
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: If you want a big dog on the card. There's

797
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: your big dog on the card.

798
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, I'm gonna put that as an

799
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: maybe actually, just because again, I as you know, Gardner

800
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: Minshew is a fun guy. But if it were Glennon

801
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: then I would be like, no, it doesn't matter. I

802
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: don't care. Like I'm fine with the Ravens. It doesn't

803
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: really matter me. Now they have up, by the way,

804
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: all these COVID issues where Hollywood Brown and Miles Boyk

805
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: and are on the COVID list. My understanding is that

806
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: they're just close contacts and they were designated as such

807
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: early enough that they are if they do test negative,

808
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: they are going to play on Sunday, And to the

809
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: extent that makes a difference, obviously doesn't really matter. The

810
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: Jaguars are completely vulnerable to the tight end. It's going

811
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: to be a huge game for Mark Andrews. But I

812
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: think Minshew is going to be able to put up points, man,

813
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: because he's just gonna go nuts and run around like

814
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: a maniac and be able to sort of keep it close.

815
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: He give me thirteen and a half.

816
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a back door special, Yes, just a back

817
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: door special.

818
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: It we'll put it as maybe. Okay, let's get to

819
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: this one, Matt is really interesting. I've been on both

820
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: sides of this game as I've worked through it, and

821
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: I've kind of dug into it for fantasy purposes. Cardinals

822
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: lank six and a half to the Eagles in Arizona.

823
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: This is a really every week there's a game I hate.

824
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: This is the game that I hate because everything screams

825
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: Cardinals here to me. You're talking about start number two

826
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: for a rookie. You've got tape now on Jalen Hurts.

827
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: You know what he looks to do. You know, he

828
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: doesn't throw the ball all that well down the field,

829
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: but he likes to get you into passing situations and

830
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: then run and pick up the first down. Cardinals defense

831
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: is athletic Buddha Baker and company. They can run, They're fast,

832
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: they can run you down. You can run the ball

833
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 3: on them with a big, physical offensive line. Eagles don't

834
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: have that. You have to look at the receivers or

835
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 3: the Eagles. They're okay, Miles Sanders in a monster game,

836
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: you assume that the Cardinals are going to stack up

837
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: to stop the run and not let him have a

838
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: big game run in the football and put it all

839
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: on Jalen Hurts his shoulders. On the other side, you

840
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: got a team and that you got an offense that

841
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: has not looked great over the last couple of weeks.

842
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: But nice win on the road against the Giants last week,

843
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: and Kyler Murray ran a bit more than I thought

844
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: he was go I'm going to picked up a couple

845
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: of first downs. I mean, this screams Cardinals. But I

846
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 3: feel like it's too public.

847
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: I don't have it. I don't have the feel for it.

848
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 2: I really don't. I mean, I like, I think Maray

849
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: looks a little healthier lately, Like right, he does, he

850
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: was running a little bit more. I think the Eagles

851
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: are so decimated on the events. I think it's going

852
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: to be an absolutely monstrous DeAndre Hopkins game. I think

853
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: they're going to be able to score. I don't have

854
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: a sense yet about Jalen Hurts and what they're going

855
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: to be able to do to you know, like, Okay,

856
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: now we've seen him, now we know what this is.

857
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: They designed a ton of runs form, but he's incredibly athletic.

858
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: When he gets out of the pocket and things sort

859
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: of start breaking down. Receivers have a way of getting open,

860
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: which is good because the receivers for the Eagles are

861
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: not particularly fast, and so you need something to be

862
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: able to get them separation. So just a game where

863
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 2: I at one point I talk myself into the Cardinals,

864
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 2: another point, I talk myself into the Eagles, which means

865
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking myself out of the game because I just

866
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: don't have a good sense of it. So I think

867
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: sort of, I feel like you were if there's a

868
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: game where I was just like, I've gotten nothing on

869
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: this game. It's not a game that I really want to touch.

870
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: So Doug Peterson's nineteen and three right or something stupid

871
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 3: like that, with backup quarterbacks and not having Carson Wentz

872
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: as the starter, like, it's just he's a much better coach.

873
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: He calls a better game, the guys respond better, So

874
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: there's something to that. I think they hated Carson Wentz.

875
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: I think they absolutely hate that guy's guts, and so

876
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: they're playing hard for Jalen Hurts, and I think there's

877
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: something to be said for that. But cross country on

878
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: the road, I mean, I don't know.

879
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I gun to my head, I'm

880
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: taking the Cardinals.

881
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: I just I can't tell if Hurts was sort of

882
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: a novelty or whether or not he's going to be

883
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: able to have this sustain so for fantasy purposes, as

884
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: you'll see, like, I think he's a guy you can

885
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: probably rely on because I think he's gonna do enough

886
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: of his legs to get out there, whether or not

887
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna be enough to hang with the Cardinals, who

888
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: I think are probably gonna play better offensively given the

889
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: injuries to the Eagles and given the fact that Kyler

890
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: Murray is generally getting healthier. It's just it's too tough

891
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: for me. It's a stay away last one Steelers laying

892
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: twelve and a half to the Bengals in Cincinnati.

893
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: You know this is.

894
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: I the line just is too heavy for me with

895
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: this Steelers team right now, just because of where Ben

896
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: is and what the Steelers have looked like. I mean,

897
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: they couldn't move the football the way that they should

898
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: have against the Bills. I think something's wrong with Pittsburgh

899
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: to be quite honest, if I had, if I had

900
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: to bet, I'd take the points.

901
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I despise this game as well. There is something

902
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: wrong with the Steelers for sure. I mean they can't

903
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: they can't run the ball, but part of that is

904
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: the fact that they've absolutely their offensive line gets zero push. Yeah,

905
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: they can't. Ben is desperate to not get sacked, so

906
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 2: that every throat.

907
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: Do you think he's hurt?

908
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: I think that Ben how old is Ben thirty eight thirty?

909
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: However old Ben is? Ben is old and has taken

910
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: a beating in his whole life. So I don't think

911
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: he's one hundred percent. I think he's good enough to

912
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: get out there, but I think that they are desperate

913
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: to protect him and what they're.

914
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 3: Doing with the one thing that it was difference between

915
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: Roethlisberger and Brady. Brady didn't lose the velocity on the football.

916
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brady always had the RPMs.

917
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: He always could get the ball out fast, and that's

918
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: what saved his bacon, right he could. Those were lollipop

919
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 3: throws against the Bills. Yeah, there was nothing behind those throws.

920
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: I think the elbow injury that he suffered last year

921
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 2: at his age probably took took the fastball away.

922
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

923
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: Really, what is right? And he's underthrowing guys right like

924
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: you saw. Yeah, I think two weeks ago where you know,

925
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 2: James Washington had the cornerback beat and Ben just couldn't

926
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: get it there. He couldn't get it there, and they

927
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: want to get the ball out. So this is I'm

928
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 2: I'm definitely worried about the Steelers long term against the Bengals, which,

929
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: by the way, it might even be not that Brandon

930
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: Allen there's anything to write home about, but it might

931
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: be Ryan Finley. In this game, we were like, oh

932
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 2: my god, the defense is going to destroy that team.

933
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: But I don't know what. No, I just don't want

934
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: to do it. If you're telling me that I have

935
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: to take the Steelers against anyone laying double digits, I'm

936
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: just probably not doing it. At the same time, I

937
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: can't go with the Bengals like they're just they're just abysmal.

938
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: They're just a terrible football team and they're poorly coached.

939
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: And you have called this forever, but it's just I

940
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: can't back.

941
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: How did Zach Taylor get that? You you have you.

942
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: Have been like banging that drum since I first.

943
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Make because I covered the dude in college. Yeah, I was.

944
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: I was there when he was at Nebraska. I was

945
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 3: covering the Huskers, and at no point in time did

946
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: I ever hear anyone say that, like, you know, that

947
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor guy, he'd be a good coach.

948
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: Do you know, Matt that now I'm remembering this as

949
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 2: we're talking here. The first time I heard you mentioned

950
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: that was when you were a guest last year on

951
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: the Betting Pros NFL podcast and we're talking about the

952
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: Bengals and you had this mini tirade against Zach Taylor.

953
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: That's that's so funny that it's just coming.

954
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: He's just he's just awful. He's just he never should

955
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: have gotten that job. And just because he had, like

956
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: he breathed the same air as Sean McVay, that was

957
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: good enough for the Bengals. Okay, thirty six year old

958
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: quarter and ex quarterback coach, let's let's hire him as

959
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: the head coach. And it's like, you know, look, he

960
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: got Joe Burrow and that's a huge feather in his

961
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: cap to have Joe Burrow. And so you're gonna win

962
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: games and look decent with Joe Burrow. But your real

963
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: coaching acumen comes out when you don't have superstars.

964
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: And look what the Bengals look.

965
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 2: Like now and again they I mean, look, their offensive

966
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: line is terrible, but I mean things like you know,

967
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: it's silly things like Giovanni Bernard. And maybe I am

968
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: a little angry about this because of fantasy purposes and

969
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: where I might have had him ranked. But the idea

970
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: that Gio Bernard fumbles on the first play and then

971
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: he's benched until the second half, like and then you know,

972
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: Trevion Williams fumbles but he gets back. It's just little

973
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: things like that, just I feel like, you know, it's tough.

974
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: The season without Burrow, the season certainly gotten away from them.

975
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: I can't back them, but I really don't want to

976
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: back the Steelers. No double datus, all right, So here's

977
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: where we are at. We like the Patriots getting two

978
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: and a half from the Dolins. We were both good

979
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: with that. We liked the Vikings laying three and a

980
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: half to the Bears. So those are two games that

981
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 2: we were both like, yeah, okay, we can lean that way.

982
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: We kind of came around on the Browns laying four

983
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: and a half to the Giants, and we kind of

984
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: like the Rams laying sixteen and a half to the Jets.

985
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: We've got three other games that I think we were

986
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: basically talking through, you like the Cowboys getting three and

987
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: a half from the forty nine ers. We might like

988
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: the Seahawks laying five and a half to the Washington

989
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: football team if both Gibson and Alex Smith are out. Yeah,

990
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: and we kind of maybe could see ourselves taking the

991
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: Jaguars getting thirteen and a half points from the Ravens.

992
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: Is that fair?

993
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: Oh?

994
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, So which one you can I'll let I'll

995
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: let you take the fifth one here, Matt, do you

996
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: like the cow Is that your favorite? The Cowboys plus

997
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: three and a half or no?

998
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: I would prefer if Smith and Gibson are out, I

999
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: would prefer to take Seattle.

1000
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: That's going to be the game. Then that's fine. Now

1001
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: what if they're in? Do you prefer the Cowboys plus

1002
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: three and a half from the Niners or the Jaguars

1003
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: plus thirteen and a half from the Ravens.

1004
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: WHOA, that's a really good question, and again.

1005
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: We're not locking ourselves in.

1006
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: I would say the Cowboys, don't know.

1007
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: I mean, the Cowboys are more likely because they're at

1008
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: home and they're catching three and a half, and I

1009
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: like home dogs at plus three and a half.

1010
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. Again, that's not a game. This is

1011
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: more of a in a slate where I am like, man,

1012
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I've talked myself into both sides

1013
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: of that Cowboys forty nine Ers game, so that's fine

1014
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: with me. Cowboys plus three and a half. Okay, So

1015
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: those are the unofficial picks here for our uh for

1016
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: the contest and for the week. Patriots getting two and

1017
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: a half from the Dolphins, Vikings length three and a

1018
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: half to the Bears, brownslaying four and a half to

1019
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: the Giants, Rams lank sixteen and a half to the Jets,

1020
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys getting three and a half from the

1021
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. So all right, that's a good mix.

1022
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: I adds usual Matt. Once we talk it through, I

1023
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: like the bets a little bit better than I did

1024
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: coming through, which is why this podcast is good just

1025
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: for us. But again, we do have a bye week left,

1026
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: so unless we feel, you know, comfortable, we may take

1027
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: it this week, or we may punt this week. Even

1028
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: if we don't take it this week and our contest

1029
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: ends for purposes of you know, our picks in it,

1030
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: we'll still be back every week. We'll be back week

1031
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: seventeen talking about it.

1032
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: We'll be back wen we gotta bet it, We got

1033
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: to bet it.

1034
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 2: We gotta bet it. We don't do it for the contest.

1035
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: We actually, you know, do the betting. So we're there,

1036
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: all right, excellent as always, Please tune into the Daily

1037
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: Juice My goodness, I mean the Daily Juice podcast the best.

1038
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: How many people in the Discord channel now, Matt, I

1039
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: always like.

1040
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: To talk about it in the in totality?

1041
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have any idea?

1042
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the's eighteen hundred people who are signed up for

1043
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: the Discord Chat that we started a month and a

1044
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: half ago. On a given day, on a given like

1045
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: Primetime Thursday night, Monday night game, we'll have over two

1046
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty people in there.

1047
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: It is all that man watching that. I'm telling you,

1048
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: I'm in there. Sometimes I'm not because I'm doing a

1049
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: lot of fantasy. But watching that Ravens game the end

1050
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: of that game with everybody in the Discord, oh my god.

1051
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: It's just fun. Betting pros like kampslash Chat. It's so

1052
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: fun just to be with other people who have action

1053
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: on a game, who are talking about it.

1054
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: It's a great It's a virtual bar. What's what it is.

1055
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: It's a virtual bar.

1056
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: It's so fun, totally free. You don't have to be

1057
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: just go betting pros like kampslash Chat sign up. It's

1058
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: a ton of fun to do. And Matt's in there

1059
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: all the time. And again, Matt, you sometimes give plays in.

1060
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: There, so I drop a lot of plays. I'll when

1061
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: I add things. If I add a prop, or if

1062
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: I add something officially for the Daily Juice, could be

1063
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: tracked the bets on the Daily jew So if I

1064
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: officially put something in play, I hit at every one

1065
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: and everybody sees it. So like I put that teaser

1066
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 3: that we talked about, the Saturday football teaser for the

1067
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 3: Packers and the Bills into the Discord Chat. No one's

1068
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: heard on the podcast yet, but if you're on the

1069
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: Discord Chet, you got that will before everybody else.

1070
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, it's a great place. And ps as soon

1071
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: as the football season is over, probably gonna take a

1072
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: couple of days to catch my breath the regular season,

1073
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: but then my baseball projection start. So that's going to

1074
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: be a lot of fun because it's going to be

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Speaker 2: talking about a lot of wind totals will drop it

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Speaker 2: off Discord Channel, Matt and I will still talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll do all that good stuff anyway. For

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Speaker 2: now thanks for tuning in. You've got our bets. I

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Speaker 2: will tweet them out on Saturday as to what exactly

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Speaker 2: we are doing and our favorite plays, but until then,

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Speaker 2: have an excellent couple of games. You're listening to this

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Speaker 2: after the game, but I hope you enjoyed this crazy

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Speaker 2: Raiders Chargers game. That's about that, and we will talk

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Speaker 2: to you here on the same podcast channel next week.

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Speaker 3: SA