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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech. And a while back,

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<v Speaker 1>I did some episodes in which I mentioned off hand

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<v Speaker 1>a Supreme Court decision in the United States that laid

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<v Speaker 1>down the law when it came to movie studios and

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<v Speaker 1>theater chains. And lately I've been thinking about this again

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<v Speaker 1>as we see movie studio has become part of much larger,

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<v Speaker 1>multibillion dollar communications companies. And then when I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>do this episode, I found to my surprise that the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court decision from decades ago, like eighty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>was dissolved earlier in and somehow I had never even

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<v Speaker 1>heard about it. So today I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the production and distribution side of entertainment, specifically when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to motion pictures. This discussion involves technology, politics, and business,

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<v Speaker 1>and it also ties into other stuff that we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in recent episodes, like the problem with anti competitive

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<v Speaker 1>practices and monopolies. So let's get started by going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the early days of film and theaters. Films have

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<v Speaker 1>always been a convergence of technology, business, and art. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>one or two of those three points might be emphasized

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<v Speaker 1>more than another. So for example, you might argue that

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<v Speaker 1>a big budget action film could lean heavily on business

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<v Speaker 1>and tech, but maybe go a little light on the

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<v Speaker 1>art part of the triangle. Or you might have a

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<v Speaker 1>really low budget arthouse film that's really heavy on the

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<v Speaker 1>art and kind of light on the tech, and you

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<v Speaker 1>wonder who the heck even agreed to fund the thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. But I think generally speaking, most

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<v Speaker 1>movies have these three factors, and on measure, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave art out of this, as it is subjective

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<v Speaker 1>and up to the interpretation of each person. There's probably

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<v Speaker 1>someone out there who objects to me dismissing most big

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<v Speaker 1>budget action films, for example. But the tech and business

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<v Speaker 1>sides are woven together in a really snug way. For

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, if you invent a technology, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to file for a patent describing how that technology works.

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<v Speaker 1>Patents are useful because they provide you some protection for

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<v Speaker 1>your idea. On the one hand, you have to spell

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<v Speaker 1>out how your invention works, at least on a high level,

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<v Speaker 1>and you do that in a document that the patent

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<v Speaker 1>office makes available to anyone who wants to see how

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<v Speaker 1>that technology works. But on the other hand, in return

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<v Speaker 1>for agreeing to have your ideas publicly available, you get

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<v Speaker 1>protection for those ideas. If someone else tries to make

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, whatever it is you made without your permission,

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<v Speaker 1>you can file a lawsuit for patent infringement, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you can prove that they in fact violated your patent

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<v Speaker 1>by creating a competing product based on your design, a

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<v Speaker 1>court can make them stop and perhaps award you compensation,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be paid by the accused, assuming that they

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<v Speaker 1>can pay it now. One of the important things about

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<v Speaker 1>patents is that they expire, and once they do, anyone

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<v Speaker 1>can make a technology based off that patent without having

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<v Speaker 1>to get the permission from the patent holder. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>patent itself has expired, it's in the public domain. So

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<v Speaker 1>a patent grants you a limited amount of time to

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<v Speaker 1>profit from your ideas. At that time, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>so without the fear of someone else swooping in and

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<v Speaker 1>using your ideas without your permission, and you can grant permission.

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<v Speaker 1>Typically we see that in the form of licensing agreements.

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<v Speaker 1>So you come up with a really cool technology. Someone says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to use that how much And the

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<v Speaker 1>two of you come to an agreement on how much

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<v Speaker 1>money they pay you in return for being able to

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<v Speaker 1>use your patented technology. At least that's how it's supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to work. The alternative to patents is just keeping your

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<v Speaker 1>technology as hidden and secret as possible. This would be

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<v Speaker 1>the trade secret strategy. It's it's one you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to share because it would give up a competitive edge

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<v Speaker 1>in whatever market you're working in. The danger with trade

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<v Speaker 1>secrets is that if someone susses out how you made

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<v Speaker 1>your technology, if they reverse engineer it, you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have any protection against them copying you. If I make

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<v Speaker 1>I'll watch him a jig, and I don't patent any

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<v Speaker 1>of my designs, and you figure out how it all works,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make your own watch him a jig, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out of luck. Really now. The reason I even

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<v Speaker 1>bring this up is that, in the early early days

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<v Speaker 1>of film, and we're talking like nineteen o eight, a

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<v Speaker 1>group of motion picture companies, some of the most you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the earliest ones in the assistance along with

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<v Speaker 1>Eastman Kodak, which was the chief supplier of film stock

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<v Speaker 1>because this was you know, when films were actually shot

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<v Speaker 1>on film. And then a film distributor named George Klein

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<v Speaker 1>all banded together to create an organization called the Motion

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<v Speaker 1>Picture Parent Company or mp PC. This was out of

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<v Speaker 1>necessity because one member of that company, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the Edison Manufacturing Company named after Yes, Thomas Edison, was

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<v Speaker 1>making life really difficult for the other companies. See Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>Edison was famous for a few different things. One was

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<v Speaker 1>inventing stuff. Two was being a really shrewd businessman. Three

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<v Speaker 1>was that he built up a company that he filled

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<v Speaker 1>with engineers who invented stuff too, and when they patented

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<v Speaker 1>those inventions, Thomas hays and always made sure his name

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<v Speaker 1>was also on the patents, which is part of why

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<v Speaker 1>he has so many hundreds and hundreds of patents to

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<v Speaker 1>his name. And four he was fierce you protective of

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<v Speaker 1>his patented technology. If he suspected that some other company

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<v Speaker 1>was making use of his patented tech without a proper license,

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<v Speaker 1>he would file lawsuits, lots of them. Well. The other

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<v Speaker 1>members of what would become the Motion Picture Parent Company

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<v Speaker 1>were film studios that Edison had kind of sued on

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<v Speaker 1>multiple occasions and really The purpose of this new entity

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<v Speaker 1>was to work out some licensing agreements to pool patents together,

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<v Speaker 1>so that way, when it came to stuff like film cameras, projectors,

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<v Speaker 1>and the various processes used in making movies on a

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<v Speaker 1>technical level, there was this agreement. Now, there was also

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<v Speaker 1>a holdout company called Biograph. That company had its own

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<v Speaker 1>camera technology that didn't sit well with Edison because he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to have the corner on that market. So Edison

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<v Speaker 1>was really hoping he could push them out of business.

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<v Speaker 1>But Biograph wisely went and purchased the rights to another

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<v Speaker 1>key patent in the film process, which gave the company

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<v Speaker 1>enough leverage to force its way into mp PC as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were a lot of strange bedfellows, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you could call them now. Before the mp PC, the

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<v Speaker 1>standard procedure between studios and theaters went something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>A theater owner would decide which films they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>play in their theater, and they would purchase a film print,

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<v Speaker 1>So in other words, they would purchase a copy of

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<v Speaker 1>a film from a studio uh and the studio would

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<v Speaker 1>make copies from a master and then sell the copies

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<v Speaker 1>to theaters, and then the theaters would just hold on

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<v Speaker 1>to that copy because they had purchased it, or they

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<v Speaker 1>might just you know, throw it away if they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hold onto it, but it was theirs. But the mp

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<v Speaker 1>PC would change that. They switched it to a rental agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>So now theaters would pay a certain amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>to get a copy of a film for a set

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time. After that set amount of time, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have to return the copy or they would have

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<v Speaker 1>to rent it again. And this gives studios a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more quality control over film prints because they could dispose

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<v Speaker 1>of any prints that had a lot of wear and

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<v Speaker 1>tear on them. And you know, films, the physical medium,

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<v Speaker 1>it does wear down over time, so that this was

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<v Speaker 1>important and it was good business because it meant that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, audiences wouldn't associate a particular studio with poor

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<v Speaker 1>quality film. If in fact that copy was starting to

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<v Speaker 1>break down, they could swap it out for something new.

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<v Speaker 1>The mp PC was also a trust or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a monopoly. Eastman Kodak held the rights to produce film stock,

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<v Speaker 1>and other companies could license that technology from Kodak, or

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<v Speaker 1>you could have someone try and come up with a

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<v Speaker 1>total alternative to Kodak film and the typical film stock,

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<v Speaker 1>but that would also mean you would have to have

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<v Speaker 1>an alternative form of camera and a projector as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was not, you know, a small task. So

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<v Speaker 1>the mp PC set it up where Kodak would only

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<v Speaker 1>sell film stock to the companies that were inside the

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<v Speaker 1>mp PC. The trust also held the camera and projector rights,

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<v Speaker 1>and so all of this meant that anyone who wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the filmmaking side of business had to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of the mp PC, or they would

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<v Speaker 1>have no legal means to get hold of the equipment

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<v Speaker 1>and film that they needed to make movies. But as

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned earlier, patents expire, and by nineteen thirteen, the

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<v Speaker 1>mp PC no longer had the cudgel of patent infringement

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuits to knockdown competitors. In addition, the mp PC was

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<v Speaker 1>located on the east coast of the United States in

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, that's Thomas Edison's stomping Grounds, and several upstart

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<v Speaker 1>motion picture companies would set up operations way out west

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<v Speaker 1>in the world of Hollywood Land, which made it mighty

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<v Speaker 1>inconvenient to investigate the possibility of patent infringement and hanky panky.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's on the on the other side of the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>And and then the death blow came. The United States

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<v Speaker 1>government brought an antitrust lawsuit against the mp PC in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifteen. The government claimed that the actions that the

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<v Speaker 1>company had taken were anti competitive and it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>the actions of a company trying to protect its own

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<v Speaker 1>intellectual property, and as a result, the mp PC would

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<v Speaker 1>dissolve just a couple of years later. So that's our

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<v Speaker 1>first example of a monopolistic strategy in the film distribution world,

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<v Speaker 1>and it won't buy any stretch be the last one.

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<v Speaker 1>The law of the U. S Government enforced against the

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<v Speaker 1>mp PC is called the Sherman Act. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the foundational antitrust laws in the United States, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it was passed all the way back in eighteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>is part of an effort to deal with issues stemming

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<v Speaker 1>from powerful monopolies and cartel's, largely in industries like steel

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<v Speaker 1>and railroad, among a few others. The government found that

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<v Speaker 1>mp PC was in violation of Section one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Sherman Act, and that section states that quote, every contract

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<v Speaker 1>combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>in restraint of trade or commerce among the several states

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<v Speaker 1>or with foreign nations is declared to be illegal. End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Section two of the Sherman Act is the part that

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<v Speaker 1>really prohibits the monopolization of interstate trade or commerce and

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<v Speaker 1>makes it a felony to to do so. While mp

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<v Speaker 1>PC was crumbling, a new movie studio Powerhouse was taking shape.

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<v Speaker 1>And someday I'm going to have to do a full

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<v Speaker 1>episode on this company because it has a fascinating and

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<v Speaker 1>important history. But it all started off with the merger

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<v Speaker 1>of two other companies. First was the Famous Players Film Company,

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<v Speaker 1>which in itself was originally called Famous Players in Famous

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<v Speaker 1>Plays the early days of films sometimes referred to movies

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<v Speaker 1>as plays. And second was the Feature Play Company, which

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<v Speaker 1>was founded by a guy named Jesse L. Laski, and

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<v Speaker 1>the merged company would become Famous Players Last Key Company. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>It would later on merge with a film distribution company

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<v Speaker 1>with the more familiar name of Paramount Pictures Corporation. Along

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<v Speaker 1>the way, the organization acquired several more independent film companies,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would lead to an approach and filmmaking and

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<v Speaker 1>distribution that would become a big headache for the industry

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<v Speaker 1>and the United States government down the line, and the

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<v Speaker 1>actual merger process was actually a really sneaky one. So

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<v Speaker 1>you got Adolph Zukor, he's the founder of Famous Players

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<v Speaker 1>Film Company, and then Jesse Laski, and they both entered

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<v Speaker 1>into distribution deals with Paramount Pictures Corporations. So originally this

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't you know, a merger, that was just a business deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy who founded the Paramount Pictures Corporation was

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<v Speaker 1>William Wadsworth Hodkinson, and he was serving the president as

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<v Speaker 1>president of the company. But then Laski and Zuker thought, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if we were able to distribute our own movies,

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<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't have to share revenues with a distributor. It

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<v Speaker 1>would all be our own revenue. So instead of paying

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<v Speaker 1>this this guy to distribute our films, wouldn't it be

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<v Speaker 1>better if we just got hold of those assets and

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<v Speaker 1>we did it ourselves and thus got to keep all

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<v Speaker 1>the money. So they set about doing a hostile takeover.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we would call it in the hades.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I see Hodgkinson listed as a founder of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie studio Paramount Pictures Corporation, and it is true.

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<v Speaker 1>He founded the distribution side of the company, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was not involved with it as a movie studio. Because

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<v Speaker 1>Laski and Zooker bought enough shares to influence the board

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<v Speaker 1>of directors of Paramount Pictures to have Hodginson ousted as president,

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<v Speaker 1>then they were able to buy the company because they

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<v Speaker 1>essentially had the board of directors in their pocket. So

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<v Speaker 1>they said, hey, board of directors, wouldn't it be cool

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<v Speaker 1>if we bought your company? And they said, yes, because

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<v Speaker 1>you own us. And so they brought Paramount Pictures under

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<v Speaker 1>the fold and they made this a true force and

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<v Speaker 1>film and like I said, I have to do a

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<v Speaker 1>full episode or maybe two, maybe three about Paramounts history

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<v Speaker 1>and movies because it really did shape the way the

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<v Speaker 1>film industry works today. Around this time, the various film studios,

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<v Speaker 1>including the future Paramount Pictures, began to create what we

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<v Speaker 1>call the studio system. This system would lockdown film production

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<v Speaker 1>in various ways. For example, studios would engage directors and

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<v Speaker 1>performers and others into long term contracts, so the filmmakers

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<v Speaker 1>and stars wouldn't be full time employees of the studio

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<v Speaker 1>per se, but they would be locked down to exclusive agreements,

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<v Speaker 1>and so certain actors would only be found in a

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<v Speaker 1>particular movie studios films Rudolph Valentino and Gloria Swanson were

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<v Speaker 1>two actors exclusive to famous players Laski. For example, Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>a studio would negotiate with another studio and they would

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<v Speaker 1>allow one of their stars or directors to work for

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<v Speaker 1>another studio in exchange for a trade of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>perceived equivalent value. But for the most part, people were

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<v Speaker 1>stuck working for a single student video until their contract expired,

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<v Speaker 1>and that would end up being a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>the problem as it would give the creators in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less opportunity to pursue their best deals while

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<v Speaker 1>under contract. So there might be a part that an

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<v Speaker 1>actor would have been perfect for, they just never would

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<v Speaker 1>have had the opportunity to do it because they would

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<v Speaker 1>have been locked in with a competing studio. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>second big part of the studio system was the vertical

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<v Speaker 1>integration approach. So we can think of there being three

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<v Speaker 1>major components in the film industry. There are producers. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the studios that actually you know, make films. There are distributors.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the companies that arranged for prints of a

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<v Speaker 1>film to go to theaters. And then there are the

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<v Speaker 1>exhibitors or the theaters themselves. And then you've also got

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other parties involved, like film stock companies like Kodak,

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<v Speaker 1>which play a part two. But the producers, distributors and

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<v Speaker 1>exhibitors are what we're really focusing on. In the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>of the government. These three groups were meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>separate from one another, but Famous Players Last Sky changed

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<v Speaker 1>this by going with a vertical integration approach. With the

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<v Speaker 1>sniping of Paramount Pictures Corporation, Zukor and Laski checked off

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<v Speaker 1>the distribution box, and they also began to buy up

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<v Speaker 1>theaters in various markets. This activity attracted the attention of

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<v Speaker 1>the US Federal Trade Commission, or FTC in the early

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenties. In the FTC charged the company with conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>and restraint of trade, essentially arguing that the company was

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<v Speaker 1>violating the Sherman Act. When we come back from break,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about how that unfolded, how the Great Depression

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<v Speaker 1>complicated matters, how a movie trade organization would become part

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<v Speaker 1>of this mess, and how things would get a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot worse. But first, let's take a quick break among

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that the FTC found with Famous Players Last Ski,

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<v Speaker 1>and I should point out that other studios were doing

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Were some industry strategies that were particularly unfair.

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<v Speaker 1>One was called block booking, and here's how it would work.

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<v Speaker 1>Studios were locking down stars in these long term contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>So audiences would begin to fall in love with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these stars, and they wanted to see the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>the movies that these stars were in. Theater owners would

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<v Speaker 1>want to run films with those stars in them in

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<v Speaker 1>order to attract crowds and sell tickets. And so the

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<v Speaker 1>movie studios who controlled the stars would say to the

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<v Speaker 1>theater owners, Okay, I'll lease to you a print of

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<v Speaker 1>this film with the stars that you want in it,

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<v Speaker 1>but in return, you also have to promise to rent

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<v Speaker 1>and exhibit these dozen other movies starring folks that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>really cares about. Otherwise you don't get the good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say dozen, that's not an exaggeration. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>some block booking would be up to a hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>four films, which was a year's worth of movies in

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<v Speaker 1>one go. And this practice is called block booking. Theater

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<v Speaker 1>owners were being pushed to rent out entire blocks of

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<v Speaker 1>films if they wanted to exhibit an anticipated film in

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<v Speaker 1>their theaters, so it was saying, if you want this one,

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<v Speaker 1>you also have to take all these other ones. In addition,

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<v Speaker 1>block booking would affect the variety of movies that theater

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<v Speaker 1>owners could show. If you're running a theater that has

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<v Speaker 1>a single screen, as many theaters had back in the

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<v Speaker 1>early days, there are really only so many different movies

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<v Speaker 1>you can exhibit in a week, and if your agreement

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<v Speaker 1>with Studio A means you have to take you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen or more of their films, that might be

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<v Speaker 1>all you can show. You could presumably pay the studios

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<v Speaker 1>for all these movies but not actually show them, and

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<v Speaker 1>opt instead to also deal with Studio B. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you're wasting money, right because you're spending money to rent

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<v Speaker 1>out blocks of films that you never show, you only

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<v Speaker 1>show a couple of them. That makes it much harder

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<v Speaker 1>to make your money back as an exhibitor, and the

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<v Speaker 1>exhibitors were over a barrel on this one, as were

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<v Speaker 1>the directors and stars. In fact, you could argue that

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<v Speaker 1>the only party to really benefit from this arrangement would

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<v Speaker 1>be the studios. Another practice the FDC found questionable was

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<v Speaker 1>called blind booking or sometimes called pre selling. So with

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<v Speaker 1>this approach, theaters would agree to pay studios up front

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<v Speaker 1>to rent film prints of movies that hadn't even been

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<v Speaker 1>made yet, and these could often be lumped in with

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<v Speaker 1>the block booking. So you might get a deal where

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with Paramount, for example, and Baramount tells you,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll give you will We'll let you rent

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<v Speaker 1>this one film, but you have to agree to rent

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<v Speaker 1>these one and three other movies, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them haven't even been shot yet. If you have watched

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<v Speaker 1>a movie about the Golden Age of Hollywood, you may

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<v Speaker 1>have seen some sort of parody of this, where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a film has its director and its cast, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even has a ooster for the movie, but the film

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a script and no one has shot a

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<v Speaker 1>foot of film yet. Barton Fink has a scene that

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<v Speaker 1>specifically sends this up. Well, that kind of stuff was

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<v Speaker 1>actually happening, and again exhibitors were being pressured to play

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<v Speaker 1>ball and pay up without a chance to even see

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<v Speaker 1>the film first, often because there was no film to

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<v Speaker 1>see if they hope to get the movies that their

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<v Speaker 1>customers were willing to pay for. And as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>earlier studios were also buying up theaters or building theaters

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<v Speaker 1>of their own. The FTC alleged that famous players last

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<v Speaker 1>Kie had even gone so far as to lean heavily

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<v Speaker 1>on a theater owner to sell their movies to or

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<v Speaker 1>to rent their movies too, and if they encountered resistance,

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<v Speaker 1>they would threaten to open up a competing movie house

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<v Speaker 1>in a nearby location, like literally across the street. And

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<v Speaker 1>then after opening up the competition, the studio would undercut

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<v Speaker 1>the prices of the competing theater and would sell tickets

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<v Speaker 1>at a huge loss just to attract customers away from

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<v Speaker 1>the theater owner that had shown resistance and hopefully forced

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<v Speaker 1>them to go out of business as a result. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very cutthroat way of doing business. Lumping the

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<v Speaker 1>theaters under studio ownership gave studios even more control of

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<v Speaker 1>which films would play in various regions. Studios could block

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<v Speaker 1>a theater from exhibiting a film from a rival studio.

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<v Speaker 1>The vertical integration was creating a real stranglehold on the

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<v Speaker 1>entire process, and the average American customer had fewer options

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a ticket to the films they really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see, so then the FTC comes in and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't seem fair. It appears that Famous Players Last

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<v Speaker 1>Key is engaged with some anti competitive practices meant to

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<v Speaker 1>restrict other companies from doing business in the film industry.

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<v Speaker 1>But the FTC's pursuit of a judgment against the company

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<v Speaker 1>would take, let's call it, a leisurely path. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until the summer of nineteen twenty seven. Keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>this investigation began in the one. It wasn't until that

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<v Speaker 1>the courts a warded the FTCs call for a cease

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<v Speaker 1>and desist order against Famous Players Last Key for practices

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<v Speaker 1>like block booking, and a call for the company to

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<v Speaker 1>stop purchasing theaters. The court ordered Famous Players Last Key

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<v Speaker 1>to comply within sixty days of the judgment or otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>produce a darn good excuse as to why it had

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<v Speaker 1>not yet done so, and the company played for time

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<v Speaker 1>they asked for, and they received extensions on this judgment twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in nine, when the stalled tactics were at an end,

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<v Speaker 1>the company claimed it wasn't really guilty of the charges

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<v Speaker 1>after all, at least not the way they had been

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<v Speaker 1>framed in the court case. That did not sit well

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<v Speaker 1>with the f TC, and in the meantime, the Commission

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<v Speaker 1>was expanding its investigations into the movie industry at large,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Famous Players Last Key case at the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of it. The FTC began to escalate its charges against

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<v Speaker 1>movie studios and going for a more direct antitrust case.

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<v Speaker 1>This would ultimately rise to the Supreme Court. The Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court would ultimately decide that the practice of block booking

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<v Speaker 1>was inherently anti competitive and thus would be illegal under

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<v Speaker 1>the Sherman Act, and that studios that practice block booking

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<v Speaker 1>would be subject to criminal proceedings and fines. However, at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, the United States was dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Depression, which began in October of nineteen twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>with the stock market crash, and then it got worse

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<v Speaker 1>due to multiple complicating factors. Meanwhile, the film industry was

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<v Speaker 1>actually seeing more competition, not less, but that had to

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<v Speaker 1>do with a technological advance rather than trumped up charges

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<v Speaker 1>against the Famous Players Last Key Company. See. In the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineteen twenties, talking pictures were becoming a thing which

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<v Speaker 1>created a new type of film experience that various studios

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to capitalize on. While simultaneously trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to salvage the assets that were more suitable

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<v Speaker 1>for silent films. That's a nice way of saying that

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<v Speaker 1>not all directors or actors were equally adept at making

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<v Speaker 1>talking picture as they had been with silent films. But

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<v Speaker 1>the talking pictures revolution would create competition between various studios. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>to understand what happened next, we need to rewind a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. As the FTC and famous players last Kie

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<v Speaker 1>were wrestling in the courts, the movie studios as a

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<v Speaker 1>whole were converging. In an effort to protect the industry

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<v Speaker 1>against US government regulation. The studios formed an organization called

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<v Speaker 1>the Motion Pictures Producers and Distributors of America, or the

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<v Speaker 1>mpp d A. This organization would later become the Motion

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<v Speaker 1>Picture Association of America a k a. The m p

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<v Speaker 1>a A until twenty nineteen, when it would turn into

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<v Speaker 1>its final, at least for now, form of Motion Picture

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<v Speaker 1>Association or mp A. The purpose for this trade association

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<v Speaker 1>was to bolster the financial support of Hollywood and to

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<v Speaker 1>encourage investment in the film industry. As part of that strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>the association also took it upon itself to create a

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<v Speaker 1>system to ensure that the films produced in America met

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<v Speaker 1>a strict moral code, the idea being that investors would

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<v Speaker 1>be hesitant to pour money into an industry that had

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<v Speaker 1>a seedy reputation. The first president of this association was

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<v Speaker 1>a man named will H. Hayes, Postmaster General of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, and the moral code applied to the content

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<v Speaker 1>of films, and it would become known as the Haze Code.

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<v Speaker 1>That in itself is a subject suitable for a full episode,

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<v Speaker 1>though I'm not sure that would fit within the bounds

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<v Speaker 1>of tech stuff. What is important is that at first,

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<v Speaker 1>movie studios paid little mind to the Haze Code. They

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<v Speaker 1>had similarly ignored an earlier set of guidelines that were

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<v Speaker 1>called the don'ts and be carefuls because the mp p

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<v Speaker 1>d A had no real way to enforce the code.

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<v Speaker 1>The studios wanted to use every trick in the book

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<v Speaker 1>to get more butts and seats because the depression was

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<v Speaker 1>really taking a toll on businesses in general, including the

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<v Speaker 1>film industry, so part of that included producing and distributing

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<v Speaker 1>films of what would be considered questionable moral character for

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Today, we'd probably think of it as quaint. However,

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<v Speaker 1>various state governments in the United States began to pass

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<v Speaker 1>censorship laws to protect the delicate citizens of those states

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<v Speaker 1>from seeing such scandalous material, and out of a concern

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<v Speaker 1>that the federal government might get involved. As more and

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<v Speaker 1>more states were taking a heavy hand with censorship, the

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<v Speaker 1>movie industry largely agreed to abide by the Hayes Code,

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<v Speaker 1>and they formed the Production Code Administration or p c

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<v Speaker 1>A to do so, and with the threat of substantial

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<v Speaker 1>fines for any film that failed to adhere to that code,

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<v Speaker 1>provided that the film came from a studio that was

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<v Speaker 1>also part of the mp p d A. But the

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<v Speaker 1>mp p d A would also play a part in

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<v Speaker 1>the battle over anti competitive practices. As a trade association,

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>it was tasked with helping studios attain financial stability during

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>a depression. That's a tall order, but the US government

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>was receptive to suggestions, as the thought was that people

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>needed distractions from the hardships of going through an economic depression,

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of similar to the way people are talking about,

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, dealing with the pandemic, and the film industry

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>was a way to provide diversions for a suitably low

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 1>cost per experience, and so, faced with a dilemma, the

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>US government agreed to dismiss the whole judgment against stuff

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>like block booking if it meant that studios could continue

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to provide entertainment for Americans undergoing a really tough economic time.

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>The mp P d A successfully argued that motion pictures

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<v Speaker 1>should be protected under a larger national strategy called the

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 1>National Industrial Recovery Act. In nineteen three, the industry had

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>only faced consequences for the vertical integration strategy that it

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>had employed for a very short while, and some really

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>hadn't faced any consequences yet at all. And so through

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties, the studio system approach grew more powerful.

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Studios continued to grow and expand their influence. They pushed

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>harder into the various components of film production, distribution, and exhibition.

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Things got mighty anti competitive, but the US government saw

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:23.479
<v Speaker 1>it as unnecessary evil. However, various court cases in different

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>industries would ultimately test the National Industrial Recovery Acts constitutional basis,

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and these cases would eventually come before the Supreme Court,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and in ninety five, the Supreme Court decided that the

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Act was in fact unconstitutional and therefore it would be

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>overturned that would remove the protection for the film industry,

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>which for a couple of years had really gone hog

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>wild with the anti competitive strategies. Pretty Much everyone outside

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of studio executives were unhappy with these anti competitive strategies.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 1>Directors and actors were unhappy because they couldn't pick and

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>choose their projects the way they wanted to. They had

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 1>to respond to studio mandates. Theater owners were unhappy that

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>they had to comply with studio wishes and distribution practices.

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>The American consumers, while happy to watch movies, weren't being

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>well served by the vertical integration approach either, and so

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>once the n I r A protection dissolved. Once that

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>act was overturned by the Supreme Court, the U. S

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice began a renewed legal attack on the

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>anti competitive practices of the movie industry. Among the issues

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>were not just the vertical integration or block booking or

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>blind booking, but also the industry forcing conditions like the

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>length of a film's run in theaters and dictating what

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the minimum admission price for a ticket should be in

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>distribution contracts. The Department of Justice charged eight defendants, including

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Paramount Pictures. What would follow would be a long series

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of cases and consent decree ease that ultimately resulted in

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the Court finding the process of vertical integration anti competitive.

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>The movie studios received a mandate to split up so

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that they would no longer be production studios that also

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>controlled exhibition of films. So when we come back, we'll

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>talk more about the outcomes of that Supreme Court decision

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and then do a big jump in time to talk

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>about how this decision was recently reversed. But first let's

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>take another quick break. So eventually, the decision that would

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, determine the fate of the film industry for

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>eighty years or so, finally came about in nineteen forty six,

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>after World War Two. To keep in mind, the original

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>decision had been back in nineteen twenty nine, and a

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>few factors led into this change. One was that the

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>world of nineteen forty six was very different from the

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>world of nineteen twenty nine. In nine, at the beginning

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>of the Great Depression, there was a perceived need for

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>entertainment and a fear that the economic depression would destroy

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the film industry, that they would go out of business

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and you'd be left with nothing, and so the anti

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>competitive practices were seen as sort of the necessary evil

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>to keep the industry afloat. But in ninety six we

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>were out of the Great Depression, World War two was over,

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>soldiers had returned home, and more people were going to

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the movies than ever before. The film industry was no

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>longer precariously positioned in an existential crisis. It was doing

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>really well. Further, only the five largest studios paramount included

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>had agreed to consent decrees that the court had previously issued,

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and the consent decrees were essentially a temporary agreement to

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>stop doing stuff like blind booking and block booking. But

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>three smaller studios would not sign the consent decrease. They

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>argued that they actually needed those practices to be competitive

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>with the five larger studios because, unlike the major studios,

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>these three did not own their own theaters. So the

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>ninety six decision would eventually lay down the law for everybody.

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>It took some time, but eventually the movie studios all

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>capitulated to the pressure from the U. S. Department of Justice.

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But the results of this might not have been what

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the courts had originally intended. Over the following two decades,

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>more than five thousand movie theaters closed. The studios began

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>producing fewer movies. They had been producing several hundred per

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>year now it was a few hundred per year total,

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>and ticket prices were still on the rise. So there

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>were some definite downsides in the wake of this decision.

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>We can't blame it all on the court, of course,

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>because there were other elements at play, including the rise

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>of television, which was a big one, so it's pretty

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>complicated stuff. In addition, while the intent was to disrupt

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>anti competitive practices, it didn't really do that so much.

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>On the books, it was forbidden for a studio to

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>own its own chain of theaters. Soon new theater chains

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>would rise up instead. And while in theory the court

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>decision would have busted open the stranglehold that big studios

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>had on exhibition, that didn't play out so much. In reality.

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>The means to produce films became more attainable for independent filmmakers,

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but the means to distribute movies for exhibition did not.

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>So in other words, you might be a humble little

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>film production studio and you might make real art on film,

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>but you would still probably need to find some distribution

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>company to strike up a deal with so that you

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>could get your finished movie into actual movie theaters. Otherwise,

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you've got this amazing piece of art, but you don't

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>really have a way to show it off beyond maybe

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>some small screenings. As for movie theaters, they gravitated toward

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>carrying films that were likely to attract routes, which in

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>turn would gradually fuel the cycle of the blockbuster. You

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>can trace that history up to present day, when a

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>cinema complex with like twenty four screens will be showing

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe a dozen films, with most screens dedicated to big

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>budget movies from a small handful of studios. And at

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>least that would be the case if it weren't for

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic. Okay, but let's switch gears a little bit

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and talk about streaming. Online streaming, much like TV and

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the home video market, which obviously came before streaming, it

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>became a big disruptor in recent years. Early on, the

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>concern was that a single entity like Netflix would dominate

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>the space, and if Netflix were to become the default

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.840
<v Speaker 1>option for most consumers, they would give Netflix an enormous

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>amount of leverage When working out deals for carrying content

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>on their platform. As such, a lot of different entertainment

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and cable companies began to launch competing services. So that's

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>why we've got stuff like Hulu and Amazon Video and

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>HBO Now and HBO Max and Disney Plus and Peacock

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and such. And here we see an interesting evolution of

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that old problem of vertical integration. This is exacerbated due

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to the various acquisitions and mergers that film studios have

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>been part of over the last few decades. So let's

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>go over a few of them in brief. There are

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>a few movie studios that really exist only as a brand,

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>which means that you know, you might see a movie

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>branded as a particular studios production, but ultimately it belongs

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to a much larger company, like a larger production studio,

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's just sort of a way to brand that

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 1>film a specific way. So we're going to ignore those.

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's no point in talking about them because

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>they don't really exist on their own. They're part of

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a bigger company, alright. So Universal Pictures, one of the

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:54.720
<v Speaker 1>oldest studios that's still around, is now part of NBC

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Universal and Comcast. So within that family, you've got a

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>telecommunication company that's Comcast. You've got a TV network in NBC,

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>and a film and more TV studios with Universal, and

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 1>this company has the streaming service Peacock. Then we've got

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Warner Brothers Pictures, which is part of A T and T.

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>So we've got another telecommunications company. And we've got Warner Media,

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>which was formerly known as Time Warner, which is a

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.280
<v Speaker 1>production company that includes film and TV studios. It also

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 1>owns cable channels like HBO and a ton of others

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>like Cartoon Network and CNN and TBS and more. So

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:36.760
<v Speaker 1>this company has HBO Max as a streaming service. Then

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.439
<v Speaker 1>we've got Columbia Pictures, which is part of a group

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>of studios owned by Sony, the Japanese mega corporation. Sony

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 1>A one time owned a streaming service called Crackle, but

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>has since divested itself of that. So it's kind of

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the odd man out when it comes to production, distribution,

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and exhibition with this particular use case. There's Paramount, of course,

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>which is part of Viacom CBS. That's an other super

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>complicated story that I should dive into at some point,

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.760
<v Speaker 1>but this company includes Viacom, a cable company that owns

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>networks like MTV, Comedy Central, Showtime, and Nickelodeon, among others.

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>CBS another TV network, and Paramount Pictures, a film and

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>television production company, and they have their own streaming service

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>in the form of Pluto TV and CBS All All Access. Uh. Finally,

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>we've got the Mouse House, truly gargantuan media and entertainment

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>company also known as Disney. So we've got Walt Disney Pictures.

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>We've got the former twentieth Century Fox, which had film

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and TV studios. You've got properties like ABC, another television network,

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and you've got Disney Plus as a streaming service as

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 1>well as some other streaming services like ESPN Plus and

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Disney also owns Hulu. Now. So, in the era of

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, when movie theaters are closed in many locations

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 1>in some theater chains have shut down at least for

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:06.399
<v Speaker 1>the time being, the vertical integration approach creates a new opportunity.

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Studios can, if they so choose, opt to release properties

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>on streaming services that they own, rather than sit on

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>films until it's safe for theaters to open it full capacity.

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So movie studios depend heavily on box office returns typically,

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the first weekend of box office returns tends to be

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>the most important. Not in every case, but in the

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>vast majority that's true. So there's a strong incentive to

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>hold off on releasing films before our theaters can open

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 1>in full again. But at the same time, there's a

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of uncertainty about when that will ever happen, and

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>there's an even bigger question if audiences will flock to

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>theaters once they are open for for business as usual,

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>and if this takes too long, we might see some

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>movie theaters just go out of business. Both on the

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>smaller independent scene and even with the bigger theater chains,

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>there's talk of insolvency among some of those operating a

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>theater is already tough. Most theaters make the bulk of

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 1>their revenue not through ticket sales but through concessions, which

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>is why it costs so dang much to get snacks,

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>because that's where the profit margin really is for theaters.

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>On the one hand, studios run the risk of alienating

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>theater owners, and I think mostly we're talking about the

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>big chains like AMC and Regal here in the United States,

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>so there's been some reluctance among studios to make a

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>big move toward releasing films online, even on their own services.

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>But on the other hand, studios need to pull in revenue,

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and so many are part of these bigger companies, these

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>bigger telecommunications and entertainment companies, and they look to their

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>streaming service as a way to bring in cash regularly

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>every month by building a subscriber base, and that they

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>have to make a uh an incentive for people to

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to those services. So you can use movies to

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>convince people to subscribe to say HBO Max for example,

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and maybe they otherwise wouldn't, but they'll do it in

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>order to be able to see you Wonder Woman ur

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 1>or something. So some studios are making compromises. For example,

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Paramount has negotiated a deal with theaters that narrows the

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:23.240
<v Speaker 1>exclusive window that theaters have for carrying a first release film.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>In normal circumstances, theaters have dibbs on a new release

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>for at least a few months before a studio pivots

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>towards the home theater market and streaming market, but Paramounts

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>deal narrows that down to seventeen days, so a little

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>more than two weeks after a movie hits theaters. Paramount

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>can then make that film available to various streaming services,

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:52.720
<v Speaker 1>most likely its own. Warner Brothers went a step further.

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<v Speaker 1>Warner Brothers announced that its entire slate of films for one,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes seventeen films into total, will be available both

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<v Speaker 1>in theaters and streaming on HBO Max on day one

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<v Speaker 1>of that film's release. However, in sort of a reverse

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<v Speaker 1>move from what Paramount is doing, these films will only

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<v Speaker 1>be available in HBO Max for thirty one days after

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<v Speaker 1>the film's released or thirty one days including the film's release,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would disappear from the service thirty one days

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<v Speaker 1>after the movie comes out in theaters. And I find

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<v Speaker 1>it fascinating that movie studios, now part of even bigger

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<v Speaker 1>media companies, have turned the vertical integration dial up to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>My original plan for this episode was to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how this new situation is kind of a workaround of

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<v Speaker 1>that old restriction that says studios can't own theaters. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>jokes on me, because in August, the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>decided to dissolve those restrictions on studios, citing that because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different world than what we had back in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen forties, those restrictions don't really apply anymore now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think in the end that this is that

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<v Speaker 1>big of a change, but that's because the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>ruling didn't necessarily have the effect that I think the

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<v Speaker 1>justices intended in the first place. But really, what I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I need to say is that it's really all

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<v Speaker 1>a moot point. Vertical integration is here big time, and

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<v Speaker 1>what happens next will largely depend on how things play

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<v Speaker 1>out with the pandemic and vaccines. If the theater experience

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<v Speaker 1>is fading into the past because of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>economics of running a theater house and the fears of

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<v Speaker 1>things like pandemics and other health issues, we should expect

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<v Speaker 1>to see a change in the way movies are produced

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I suspect movies aren't going anywhere. There will

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<v Speaker 1>always be a desire to create among directors and actors.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to stick around no matter what the circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>But if theaters can't recover, there will be no hope

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<v Speaker 1>of having that big box office weekend to recoup the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of production. And without that payout, it would make

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<v Speaker 1>little sense to see big budget films move forward because

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<v Speaker 1>the chances of making your money back would go down,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly as consumers have to pick and choose which streaming

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<v Speaker 1>services they subscribe to. That can also be a pain point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's eerily similar to the prospect that the theater closest

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<v Speaker 1>to you is only running movies from a single studio.

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<v Speaker 1>You have less choice unless you're willing to pay the

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<v Speaker 1>subscription fee to numerous services so that you have access

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<v Speaker 1>to everything. It's not great for consumers, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>super great for creators because they're going to see their

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<v Speaker 1>budgets shrink. It's not even great for the studios. If

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<v Speaker 1>you hit your saturation point for subscribers, meaning no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what you do, you are not likely to increase your

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<v Speaker 1>subscriber number in any significant way. You have hit that

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<v Speaker 1>saturation point for the market, then at what point do

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<v Speaker 1>you have incentive to invest in interesting projects. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>get any bigger, so why would you spend more than

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<v Speaker 1>you have to? You just you just need enough stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to keep people subscribed. That's all you need. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to attract more people because more people aren't coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We see this in the cable industry too. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>cable companies will hit a saturation point within a market,

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<v Speaker 1>they literally can't get into more homes in that market. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing you can do is to maybe launch

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<v Speaker 1>a new channel or try to go into a country

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<v Speaker 1>where you don't have a presence already. I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>firsthand when I was working with Discovery Communications. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that I think is wrong with the entertainment industry.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't really scratched the surface of all of that

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<v Speaker 1>because it goes deep, but I do hope that we

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<v Speaker 1>can see a recovery with movie theaters. One thing I

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<v Speaker 1>do take comfort in is that we have always loved

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<v Speaker 1>stories since before the time we could write them down,

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<v Speaker 1>So that loves stories that's not going anywhere. We just

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<v Speaker 1>my see some big changes in the ways that we

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<v Speaker 1>tell them. But I do hope that movie theaters make

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<v Speaker 1>a recovery and that we can continue to see innovative

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<v Speaker 1>and big budget films. I mean, I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of feelings about various big budget movies. You can hear

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<v Speaker 1>more about my feelings on the podcast The Large Nerdron

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<v Speaker 1>Collider that will be available later this week. It launches

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, so keep an ear out for that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll save it for that In the meantime, if you

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