1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: America is in the middle of an affordable housing crisis. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Mortgage rates are at their highest in two decades, and 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: the supply of homes for sale is near a record low. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: In the middle of all of this, the vast majority 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: of new homes that are being built are in communities 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: like homeowners' associations or hoas. That means they come with 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: extra charges attached on top of a mortgage. 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: There are a lot of costs associated with living in 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: an HOA. Among them are just the regular monthly dues, 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: and those could be below one hundred dollars a month, 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: it could be a one thousand dollars in a more 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: expensive community. You also often have to pay assessments for 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: upkeep and maintenance. 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: My colleague, Sarah Holder is a reporter for Bloomberg covering 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: urban politics and housing, and she's recently been digging into 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: the influence of hoas. Hoas are a large and growing 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: share of the US housing market. Nearly a quarter of 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: the country lives in hoa's or something like them, and 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: part of living in one of these communities means following 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: the rules they've set. 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: These rules can seem petty, but if people don't follow them, 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: there can be pretty big consequences. 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: And the power of these associations to enforce the rules 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: can threaten sustainable home ownership. Today on the show, we'll 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: meet a family that's learned all of this the hard way. 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: This used to be somewhere we felt safe, We felt like, 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, like home, sweet home, and now it doesn't 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: feel that way. 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: We'll also talk about how hoas can offer the hope 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: of affordable housing, but in reality hold it just out 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: of reach, and we'll hear what the government is doing 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: or not doing to address the power of hoas. 33 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: These are basically private governments that are really underregulated, critics 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: would say, by the federal government. 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: This is the big take Washington. From Bloomberg News, I'm 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: your host Seleiah Mosen. In twenty sixteen, Naomi Mendoza Aleya's 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: family but a new house. It was bigger and pricier 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: than their old one and was in an hoa community 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: called Green Valley Ranch. Picture cream colored houses with beige roofs, 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: each spaced evenly apart, and the occasional basketball hoop visible 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: against the horizon. 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: It was safe, it felt comfortable, neighbors were friendly. It 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: just felt somewhere where you know, you could eventually be 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: there for a while. 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: That was the idea, Just like a lot of us. 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Naomi's dad hoped his kids would inherit the house one day, 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and making it their own became his passion project. He 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: added a deck in the back and remodeled the inside so. 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: My dad at the time freely enjoyed a lot of 50 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: black so we have like marble floors, black cabinets. 51 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: It was a family effort. Naomi's stepbrother even came from 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: Mexico to help. Soon, the house on Kirk Street had 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: become a gathering place for their community. 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: We'd sometimes just throw parties for no reason, just like, hey, 55 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: come over, let's have some music. We're Hispanics, so we 56 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: had a lot of Mexican dishes all the time. Any 57 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: small event, it would kind of always be like, hey, 58 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: you guys can celebrate it here, like this is your home, 59 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: just as was our home. 60 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: My colleague Sarah Holder told me that hoas were basically 61 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: invented to make suburban life feel idyllic. 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: The seeds of what we now think of as hoas 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: kind of started in the nineteen tens and the nineteen 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: twenties with the rise of these community builders. 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: This is no mere. 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: Collection of homes, but a carefully planned community. 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: Think cookie cutter houses perfectly trimmed lawns. Among the promises 68 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: of hoas were offering shared spaces and handling all the 69 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: community upkeep, like making sure the roads were always freshly 70 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: paved and clear of snow. 71 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: The sun and air and open green a part of 72 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: the design. 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: Safe streets and quiet neighborhoods are not just matters of 74 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: good luck. They're built into the pattern and built to 75 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: stay there. 76 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: The developers who built these communities wanted them to stay 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: that way, so they created rules governing the people who 78 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: lived there. The idea was to keep the neighborhoods as 79 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: idyllic as they were designed to be. 80 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: You can't start a gas station. You can only build 81 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: a home. You can have a white house, you cannot 82 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: have a pink house. 83 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: Back in the early days of hoas, that also meant 84 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: governing who could live in the community and who couldn't. 85 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Some hoas had rules excluding people of color and people 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: from certain religious groups. 87 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: They were able to codify segregation within their borders. 88 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Apart from segregation, hoas, like so many things, come down 89 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: to money. The developers said that all these rules were 90 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: rooted in their desire to protect property values. 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: They thought that if they had this kind of control 92 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: over a neighborhood, the valley, you of these homes would 93 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 2: stay the same over a long period of time. 94 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: And this system of rules continues to this day in 95 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of HOA communities around the country. 96 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: So that's where these things like you can't have a 97 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: basketball hoop, or you can't have shutters, or you can't 98 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: not have shutters come into play. 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: Those rules and regulations that all residents have to abide 100 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: by are part of what make hoa's appealing places to live. 101 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: Some people like the idea that their neighbors can't let 102 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: their lawns go on trimmed or blast music late at night, 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: but the HOA board can take enforcement of these rules 104 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: really seriously, and they punish residents who don't comply. In 105 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: March of this year, Naomi's mom got a phone call 106 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: from a number that she didn't recognize. She actually thought 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: it was spam. 108 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: But for some reason she answered, and when she answered, 109 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: they told her, hey, like, I'm the new owner's mom, 110 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: just calling to let you know that your husband like 111 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: does and own the house no more. 112 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: At first, they were sure there had been a misunderstanding. 113 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: But then my dad kind of was like, well, let 114 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: me just double check with like the realtor that sold 115 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 3: us the house. He called the realtor, and the realtor 116 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I wasn't aware of this, but like, 117 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: your name isn't on the title anymore. It's under someone else. 118 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: And they kind of got us all in shock, as 119 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: we were all kind of like, well, you know, like 120 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: what do you mean, Like, how is that even possible? 121 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: Before that fateful phone call, Naomi's family had been happily 122 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: living in the Green Valley Ranch community. There was one thing, though, 123 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: that had been nagging at them. The HOA had been 124 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: docking them for a laundry list of violations, things that, 125 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: to Naomi seemed pretty inconsequential. 126 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: Oil stains on the driveway. We had this tree that 127 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: was growing on the side of our house. They wanted 128 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 3: us to take it off since it was dying. 129 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Garage doors two different shades of beige. A broken window 130 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: then another. After their home was vandalized. 131 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: We called someone to come see if we could repair. 132 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: You know, both windows turned out to be way more 133 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: than we thought it would be. So it was like, well, 134 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: we have to prioritize one or the other. 135 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: The HOA one of these things fixed. So they sent 136 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: the family letters and the mail. Naomi says her family 137 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: was focused on staying on top of their mortgage payments 138 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: and their taxes, not addressing HOA infractions. 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: We weren't doing it on purpose, and they kept being 140 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: on our butts about it. 141 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: When the HOA didn't see the violations being addressed, they 142 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: charged Naomi's family a fine. Her family didn't realize that 143 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: those fines, which started off in the low hundreds, could 144 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: quickly balloon if they went unpaid. The HOA tacked on 145 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: late fees and legal fees to pay for the attorneys 146 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: the board employed to enforce the rules. It all added up, 147 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: and eventually Naomi's family owned the HOA over six thousand dollars. 148 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: And then came that call in March, the one that 149 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: delivered the news of their house had been sold. 150 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: My dad told us, if someone comes to the house 151 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: and tries to evict, you stand your ground, just because 152 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: you know. We were still in doubt, and then we 153 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: later found out that we weren't the only ones that 154 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: this has happened to. 155 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: We'll get to that after the break, we're back with 156 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: the story of Naomi Mendoza Olea and the HOA that 157 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: took her family's home away. Naomi says that her family 158 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: had no idea that unpaid fines could actually lead to 159 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: losing their home. But my colleague Sarah Holder told me 160 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: that this can happen because of a specific power ahoays 161 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: have to enforce their rules. Hoas can get a lean 162 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: on a property, which is essentially the ability to hold 163 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: onto a piece of property until someone pays the debt 164 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: that they owe. You think about what happens if you 165 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: don't pay a mortgage, which the bank can take your home. 166 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: And in Colorado, where Naomi's family lives, hoas can get 167 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: what's called a super lean, which means an HOA that's 168 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: owed money can claim the property even over the bank. 169 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: These super leens or priority lians, they're meant to give 170 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: aja's first DIBs on the proceeds from a foreclosure sale. 171 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: So during the two thousand and eight financial crisis, for example, 172 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: it ensured that hoas that were owed money were paid 173 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: back before the bank if homeowners defaulted on their mortgages. 174 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: And HOA advocates say this is so that you don't 175 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: have to pay for the mistakes of your neighbors. But 176 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: in some states, an HOA superleen can wipe out that 177 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: mortgage entirely, and that allows Hias to move to foreclosure 178 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: and really be ruthless in getting that debt paid off. 179 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: The HOA ended up selling Naomi's family home at a 180 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: foreclosure auction for just eighty five thousand dollars. 181 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: It's not even like close to what my dad even 182 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: bought it for. It was like, how is that house 183 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 3: worth such nato amount of money now, especially because you know, 184 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: we remodeled all the inside, it has a deck, like, 185 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 3: it is worth more than they sold it for. 186 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: Zillo estimated the house was worth over five hundred and 187 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. That's more than six times what the 188 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: HOA sold it for. The HOA and their legal representatives 189 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: did not respond to a request for comment. In legal documents, 190 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: the HOA said that they had reached out to Naomi's 191 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: father about what was happening and didn't hear back. Naomi 192 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: says that communication never reached him. 193 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: They claimed that they served my dad papers, but there's 194 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: this miscommunication with my dad. He doesn't speak English fluently, 195 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: and like They say that they served him the papers 196 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: at the house that we currently live at, where he 197 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: hasn't lived there for four or five years already. 198 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: We reached out to the HOA for and they didn't respond. 199 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: Naomi says the realization that her family was losing their 200 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: home was crushing. 201 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: I know how hard my parents have work for that 202 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: home so it could stay and be you know, inherited 203 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: to us. That for it to be snatched, you know, 204 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: from one day to another is very like heartbreaking. It 205 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: was also like what happens now? We could have been 206 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: evicted at any second without us having nowhere to go, 207 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: and like, you know, everything economically has been so expensive 208 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: that it was like, how are we going to do this? 209 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: The family is currently challenging their foreclosure in court, and 210 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Sarah Holder says she spoke to several other families 211 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: in a similar position. 212 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: One of the things that I learned in this reporting 213 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: is that not everyone knows what they're getting into, and 214 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: they felt that they had a cheat one part of 215 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: the American dream, which for years has been home ownership. 216 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: You know, they had settled in this community, they had 217 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: bought a house that was affordable to them at the 218 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: time they were paying their mortgage, and the HOA rules 219 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: and the punitiveness of this HOA was threatening to destroy that. 220 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: While there's no national data on HOA foreclosures, reporting from 221 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: the Colorado Sun found that since twenty eighteen, hoas have 222 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: filed about three thousand foreclosures in the state. About eight 223 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: percent of those homes have been sold at auction. Bloomberg 224 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: News reached out to the Community Association's Institute, a lobbying 225 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: group representing hoas. Their spokesperson Don Bawman told us that 226 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: while communities should allow time for due process, having the 227 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: power of foreclosure is a matter of fairness. That way, 228 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: she said, community members don't have to make up the 229 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: extra costs if they're neighbors aren't paying their share. Bauman 230 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,119 Speaker 1: also emphasized that hoas offer potential home buyers an affordable 231 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: and worthwhile investment opportunity. But stories like that of Naomi's 232 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: family are getting attention, and lawmakers in some states have 233 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: started to take action. In California, Governor Gavin Newsom signed 234 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: a law to cap HOA fee increases. In North Carolina, 235 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: a bill to make it harder to move to foreclosure 236 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: is working its way through the state Senate, and in 237 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: Naomi Mendoza Aleya's home state of Colorado, a new law 238 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: took effect in the summer of twenty twenty two. Among 239 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: other things, it capped the interest rate on unpaid HOA 240 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: fines and barred foreclosures triggered by minor violations. It now 241 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: requires hoas to repeatedly communicate violations to homeowners. For Naomi 242 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: and her family, it was too late. A lawyer filed 243 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: the paperwork that set off the foreclosure process just two 244 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: days before the new law went into effect. But some 245 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: people believe that there is more that needs to be 246 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: done on a national scale to protect homeowners like them. 247 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Michael Neil is a researcher at the Urban Institute focusing 248 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: on housing finance policy. Neil used to work at Fannie May, 249 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: a federal mortgage lender. He pointed out that higher prices 250 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: don't just limit a person's ability to buy a home. 251 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: There's also the issue of sustainability. 252 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: That is, if I'm not able to pay my mortgage 253 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: because I've got a high payment with higher interest rates, 254 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 4: plus I've got the high HOA fee. In times of 255 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: stress where i might lose my job, i might be 256 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: less likely to actually make all of those payments. 257 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: Which isn't just a risk to individual homeowners. Too many 258 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: people defaulting on their mortgages can tank an economy. That's 259 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: a lesson we learned the hard way. In two thousand 260 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: and eight, I asked Neil about what the HOA spokesperson 261 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: said that hoas offer potential home buyers an affordable investment opportunity. 262 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: He told me that the data doesn't necessarily back that up. 263 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: Generally, the research suggests that the presence of an HOA 264 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: so not the level of the faith, but the presence 265 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: of an HOA typically coincides with higher house prices. 266 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: Will Some state and local lawmakers seem to be tracking 267 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the complications that come with hoas. So far, the federal 268 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: government hasn't said anything. I reached out to the Department 269 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: of Housing and Urban Development and they told me that 270 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: they had no comment on hoas. I also tried tracking 271 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: down a number of former federal government officials, anyone who 272 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: could give me a window into the conversations around hoas 273 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: from the inside, and no one would talk. As for 274 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: Naomi and her family, they're stuck waiting for their day 275 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: in court. Their case was recently delayed until March, which 276 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: Naomi says is a relief because it gives them a 277 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: few more months in their home, but it's uncomfortable to 278 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: live in a place that could be taken away from 279 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: them at any moment. If they have to move, Naomi says, 280 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: it won't be to another hoa. 281 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: This used to be somewhere we felt safe, We felt like, 282 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: you know, like home sweet home, and now it doesn't 283 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: feel that way. So whether we win the house back 284 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: or not, I think we still kind of want to 285 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: move from there, just because we don't feel like it's 286 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: our home no more. 287 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Big Take from Bloomberg News. 288 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm Seleiah Moson. This episode was produced by Julia Press, 289 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: Anna Masarakis, and Naomi Shaven. It's part of a special 290 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: series from our DC newsroom. Blake Maples is our mix engineer. 291 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: Our story editors are Wendy Benjaminson, Mike Shepard, and Caitlin Kenny. 292 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Sage Bauman is our executive producer and head of Podcasts. 293 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in. 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