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Speaker 1: And we've got quite a story today. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: about Mary Edwards and Lord Anne Hamilton's basically a story

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Speaker 1: about the evils of money. We got bad investment, satirical

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Speaker 1: Hey their French come listen. Well, Elia and Diana got

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Speaker 1: It's just about ridiculous relationships, a lover. It might be

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Speaker 1: this lady Mary Edwards that we're talking about today, Mary Edwards,

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Speaker 1: pretty cool, lady. Um. She was the richest woman in

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Speaker 1: Lord Anne and Mary Edwards. Uh So, anyway, the Fleet

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Speaker 1: As you cannot see here. In the Hamilton's family portrait, Mary, Ann,

423
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: Gerard and their family dog are all depicted sitting on

424
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: a terrorist I kind of wonder what that commission was like,

425
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: because this is a pretty biting painting. So I imagine

426
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: Lady Mary really really telling him how she needs it

427
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: to be. Listen, William, this is how I wanted to look.

428
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: We're all sitting on the terrace. Gerard, is it a

429
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: fountain of wisdom? And I want him washing a toy soldier.

430
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: Of course, you would want to honor your son and

431
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 1: his reverence for the British military. No, he's washing away

432
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: all ideas of following in his father's military career. I

433
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: want him to be expunged from Gerard's memory. Okay, so

434
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: expunging the father. And then I'd like to be painted

435
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: surrounded by books. Of course, what woman doesn't love to

436
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: read books? While I oh, no, no, no, these are

437
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: all going to be showing the type of education I'll

438
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: be giving Gerard once I'm in charge around here. And

439
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: then Anne, I want him to be portrayed. I'm sorry,

440
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: I just need to clarify one more time. Anne, is

441
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: your husband. That's right, Yes, Egg. I want Egg portrayed

442
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: by the staircase, turned away from us, about to walk

443
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: out of our lives forever because he's leaving to go

444
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: off in some noble quest to save his fair really

445
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: his name. No, I'm kicking him to the cub Okay, okay, alright,

446
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: I don't want no scrubs. We can We're gonna do this.

447
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: And then I have a loyal dog. I imagine sitting

448
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: in his lap, showing that despite these troubles, the family

449
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: always stays together. No, have him growling at him and

450
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: hurrying him on his way. I want him bearing his

451
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: teeth really hostile. Okay, you know it's it's nice to

452
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: be challenged. That is a that is that is accurate.

453
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: That is a description of what this painting looks like.

454
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 1: A lot of that that criticism comes from Elizabeth Einberg

455
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: with the Paul Melon Center in the UK, describing those

456
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: elements of the painting. But that's really how it looks.

457
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: And it's pretty funny. I almost, I guess once you

458
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: know it's pretty funny. She comes in. She says, I'm

459
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna destroy you and your reputation for all time.

460
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to get up painting made. That is going

461
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: to be in museums forever. This is what you get

462
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: for touching and with my money. That's right. Her shade

463
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: has lasted more than three years and we're still talking

464
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: about it. I think that's pretty dope. And then, uh,

465
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: that was painted in seventy four and indeed dated in

466
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: seventeen thirty four, indicates a final separation was established. I

467
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: hope she showed him that painting as she delivered the

468
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: the news. By the way you've done this is you,

469
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: not the dog. This is you leaving. Uh well, look

470
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: our dogs growling at us. He's got to go out,

471
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: so we better take a commercial break. Yeah, let's do that.

472
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: Be right back. All right, we are back too, and

473
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: Mary and Lord Anne have just split up for good,

474
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: this time, I guess the only time. She also never

475
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: married again, because I guess she was like, fool me once,

476
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: shame on me, fool me twice. You can't puol me again.

477
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't having it. She was at that point. She

478
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: was like, I know what men want, and it's my

479
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: stacks of fat, stacks of soft. She passed all her

480
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: fat stacks of soft onto her son, Gerard kid. Yeah,

481
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: well maybe it is our only kid. Yeah, And I

482
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: think society pretty restricted for women and this time, but

483
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: when you had a lot of money, you could kind

484
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: of do whatever you wanted, it seems, and make yourself

485
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable. So I think she was just kind of like,

486
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't really want any husband, even

487
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: if I like him a lot or whatever. I don't

488
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: think I want any husband to have control of all

489
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: my money. And you know, she probably felt pretty powerless

490
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: during that time, I would think, and being like, I

491
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: guess my only recourse is to completely act like this

492
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: never happened, and that's kind of crazy. I mean, that's

493
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: a pretty crazy thing to do. So um, yeah, I

494
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: think she just she was just like, Mum, hold onto

495
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: this bag forever, and my son's gonna get it, and

496
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: none y'all gonna get it. So Gerard got it. He

497
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: got the bag. He married Lady Jane Nole, who was

498
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: the daughter of Baptist Noel, the fourth Earl of Gainsboro,

499
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: in seventeen fifty four. Gerard was known as Handsome Edwards,

500
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: which is a pretty sweet nickname. That's pretty good unless

501
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: it's like a boxer's handsome ed Words, but he's like

502
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: completely busted. Yeah, gorgeous George. It comes old handsome Edwards.

503
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: It's like a cauliflower ear, cauliflower face. But he probably

504
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: wasn't a boxer because he didn't need the He didn't

505
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: need to do that for money. Although I actually in

506
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: that society it was pretty um, pretty de rigular for

507
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: men to box as amateurs. Yeah, it was like a

508
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: good exercise made you look hot and I guess like

509
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: a sporting guy. But the face, I'm handsome edwords, No, No,

510
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: punched me in the stomach. Nothing can go wrong there.

511
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: It's from being punched in the stomach. Well, if it

512
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: kills me, I'll die. Hands the most important thing of all. Also,

513
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: maybe he gave it himself that nickname, which wouldn't be

514
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: as cool. Like if you started running around being like

515
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm handsome Banks, I feel like people would be like, um,

516
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: what's Wrongly would stick? I don't think it would. I

517
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: don't think they'd be talking about it three years later.

518
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I would have made it into the books. Maybe not.

519
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: It's weird that he was able to marry nobility though,

520
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: right because she had him declared an legitimate son, right,

521
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: which yeah, I think in that time, you know, that

522
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: basically meant you had no place in society like you

523
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: were fully like not. And I think she sort of

524
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: knew that risk when she was doing it, but she

525
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: it was that important. Yeah, she preferred the social censure

526
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: and whatever, you know, any of that fallout to having

527
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: a husband that would spend all her money and leave

528
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: her and her destitute. Totally get totally get that. But

529
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: it worked out because Yeah, I looked up because I

530
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: was like, I thought, you couldn't you know, I thought

531
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: that would be really weird for an earl's I mean,

532
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: you could get married, of course, but I thought would

533
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: be weird for an earl's daughter to be permitted to

534
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: marry someone who was known to be born out of weblins, right,

535
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 1: And I mean if our doubton n Abbey knowledge as

536
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: taught as anything that who marries Who's Brantham saying complicated affair?

537
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: Imagine Lady Mary marrying some commoner, or Lady Sybil marrying

538
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: something chauffeur chauffe the chauffe I won't have it. I

539
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: guess I'll have it, but fine, anyway, But I did

540
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: look it up and they said. Basically, the internet was

541
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: basically like, look, if you had enough money, nobody cared

542
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: and people kind of looked over that. And he had

543
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: the most money. Do you know at this point what

544
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: the size of the fortune was, like, like what kind

545
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: of dent did and put into it? I didn't find

546
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: anything about that. And I guess because it's a yearly income,

547
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: it probably depends on like if you know, they had

548
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: to get rid of some land or some tenants, or

549
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: they had to sell some stocks or something. But I think,

550
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it was only a couple of years they

551
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: were together before she was like, and you're gone. You

552
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: did to me, So I don't think he I don't know.

553
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: Can you spend four million dollars in a year? Do

554
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: you think he spent his entire income? Challenge accepted? Somebody

555
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: give me four million bucks a year, and I'll show

556
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: you how fast I can spend it. Great because it

557
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: seems like, no matter how much money I'm making, and

558
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: it's been vastly different over the many years of my life,

559
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: always kind of feels like the same amount, it always

560
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: comes back to zero. You always build your lifestyle to

561
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: meet whatever income. I think I just eat more. We're

562
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: going cooler trips. I mean, I guess that's my question.

563
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Is he spending money only on himself? Like and yeah?

564
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: Was he like buying her ship and she was like,

565
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't want this damn ship? What are you doing?

566
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: Or was he just like straight up coming home like

567
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 1: I lost a million dollars in the faro table last night,

568
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: and who cares because we're rich as hell? So speculation station?

569
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: Where is he going on a daily shopping trip? All right?

570
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: What's that look like? Lord Anne gets up? He hops

571
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: in the carriage. First of all, it's like an uber carriage.

572
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: He's panned for that. He's not driving himself. Uh, he

573
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: goes into town. What's his first stop? First of all?

574
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: Like a nine dollar a cup of coffee. I'm sure

575
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: he's hitting up lord Anne Taylor, Lord Anne Taylor. He's

576
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: going to Lord Anne Taylor to get him some some dresses. Well,

577
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: at the time, men did dress pretty fancy. I don't

578
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: know if he was a dandy type guy who really

579
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: cared about his clothes, but expensive I feel like he was.

580
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: He probably wanted to look pretty good. He liked to

581
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: spend money that much. He liked to show it off.

582
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: I think so, so he would have bought jewels, he

583
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: would have bought clothes, because he would have bought carriages

584
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: and horses. You don't marry the richest woman in England

585
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: pretty much specifically for her money and then not let

586
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: everyone know that you got the money and then live,

587
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, a rustic lifestyle. That's true and that it's true.

588
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, he might have bought He might have also

589
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: like had dogs because there was a lot of dogs,

590
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, fighting type gambling going on. So some guys

591
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: like Towns also hounds for hunting. Sure, I definitely with

592
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: four million a year, I'm going to buy a lot

593
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: of dogs. Not for fighting. I'm going to buy a

594
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: big old piece of hand and have between sixteen and

595
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: thirty dogs. Well, oh my god, probably hire hands to help. Yeah,

596
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: I Am not going to leave them all right all

597
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: the time. So a lot of their money is speaking

598
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: of probably spent on servants to take care of their

599
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: various properties and to take care of all his horses

600
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: and hounds. And I'm totally guessing his horses and hounds

601
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: and his carriages, so they would have had a lot

602
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: of people to pay for. You got to spend money

603
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: to spend money. That's so true. And then of course

604
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: gambling was huge pastimes, so yeah, probably playing a lot

605
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: of cards and going to horse races and somewhere in there.

606
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: Once a week he comes back with a with a

607
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: really gaudy, ugly necklace, and it's like, you're a wife,

608
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: I love you. I bought you this because because because

609
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to get you something. I wanted you to

610
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: get off my dick about how much I'm spending right right,

611
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: If the counsel low it's because I bought you this

612
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: doesn't keep them keep that in mind. But if she's

613
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: like commissioning paintings about overspending, I feel like she was

614
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: maybe like not that interested in stuff. No, definitely she

615
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: was like what the funk is this? Like I don't

616
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: want this jew jaw, like get this out of here.

617
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: It lived comfortably. I'm sure it wasn't like I mean,

618
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: you probably could tell from looking at her that she

619
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: had a ship ton of money, but it wasn't like

620
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: very well, I'm just gonna gold plate everything I have.

621
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to gold plate the toilet just for everyone.

622
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: It takes a poop. My house knows that I don't

623
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: that I have more money than I know what to

624
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: that's right. Like some people we could name but won't she.

625
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I guess she commissioned a lot of painting, so maybe

626
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: she was a patron of the arts, and she probably

627
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: she was super into education, so maybe she gave money

628
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: to like colleges or whatever. But it seems like she

629
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: does not didn't really seem to care about buying a

630
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: lot of stuff for the sake of spending. I mean,

631
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, to spend like you and me, because I

632
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: have a psychological need to spend money or I get

633
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: depressed and you're like, well, but savings, I'm like, what's that?

634
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: I know. I'm like, let's find out what a CD is.

635
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm having a really rough weekend. I'm just

636
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna walk around Target. And to be fair, I don't

637
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: buy anything at Target, but it's I don't know, somehow

638
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: I come back with less money than I have when

639
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: I that's how Target do. But it wasn't even Target.

640
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: I bought it somewhere else. I went to the fucking

641
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: pet store or something and just something for no reason.

642
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: The dog. Yeah, but the dogs got I hope. Unless

643
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: you buy yourself a que toy or something that would

644
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: help my exit, I just walk in and you're like, hey,

645
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: you have stuffed with peanut butter, and I'm not above

646
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: it at any rate. So Mary died in seventeen forty three.

647
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: She was buried simply next to her father, So again,

648
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: not an extravagant person. She didn't want like a big

649
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: tomb or some weird monuments or anything. She's just very

650
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: simple burial. Lord Anne, however, did marry again in seventeen

651
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: forty two, and there was no no one said there

652
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: was any bigamy involved, so as the Oxford Dictionary of

653
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: National Biography says, that is evidence that they were never

654
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: officially married. Um, so I guess even even if they

655
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: had kept that information on the register, maybe it wouldn't

656
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: have counted or something. It just means she did a

657
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: really good job scrub And that's what I think. That's

658
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: what I think. He married another heiress named Anna Powell,

659
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: no kidding her. Oh yeah, to have gone through that

660
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: again and marry another heiress, you know, I know how

661
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: trouble submit is to marry a woman with money. But

662
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: I just love you so much, stay away? Who planned?

663
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: What a compliment? They had two sons together? Yeah, I

664
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: was just like, why is he marry and all these

665
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: heiresses like is he just a piece of shd or

666
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: was he like broke as a joke? It turns out

667
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: he was, yes, broke as a joke because his father,

668
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: who was Lieutenant General James Hamilton's, the fourth Duke of Hamilton's,

669
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: apparently invested heavily in the failed Darien Scheme, which was

670
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: a plan to gain wealth and influence by establishing a

671
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: colony in New Caledonia in Panama, and it cost many

672
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: Scottish nobles their entire fortunes. Dam that sucks. So that

673
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: was a bad investment. New Caledonia sounds like like the

674
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: libertarian floating island or whatever. We're all going to go

675
00:37:53,040 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: to New Caledonia, a paradise in Panama. Boom boom uh.

676
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: He died in a duel, like a very infamous duel

677
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: in Hyde Park. Yeah. Sorry, Yes, the father, the fourth Duke,

678
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: died in seventeen twelve in a duel with Charles Mohun,

679
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: who was the fourth Baron Mohun, over a disputed inheritance.

680
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: So again, just money, just money causing problem causing is

681
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,479
Speaker 1: she is for to be fair for people who lost

682
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: it and needed It's true? I mean that's the thing

683
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: about fortune hunters like, I don't know. I'm sort of like,

684
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: it's not like men could have an occupation if they

685
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: were noble. They were just supposed to have land and

686
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: property that like supported them. And of course often times

687
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: you would just dip into that money and never put

688
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: any money into the estate, and so it would get

689
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: played out and you wouldn't have any money, and then

690
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: people would be like, oh, what a piece of ship

691
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: for like looking for hanging out for a rich wife

692
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: or something. And I'm like, well, what else are they

693
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: supposed to do, because you know, if you have no

694
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: money to turn the estate around, so it makes an end. Hum,

695
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how you're supposed to

696
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: make any money. So I don't know. I just thought

697
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: it was kind of just a weird society who grabbed

698
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: your bootstraps, you pull them up till spats? Where are spats?

699
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: Are they high up speculation station? What are spats? If

700
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: only we had a magical device that gives the answers

701
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: to everything we wanted to know. Spats are shortening of

702
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: spatter dashes or spatter guards that are a type of

703
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: classic footwear accessory of covering up the instep and the ankles. Yeah,

704
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: they're little. Their shoe covers Okay, so it's like, your

705
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: shoes don't get dirty, right, but your spats get dirty.

706
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: Are their spat covers? No, because the spats are It's

707
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: like when people get really fancy sneakers and then they

708
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: put plastic bags over them. Yeah, I'm like, but nobody

709
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: can see. So it's like, all right, spatter dashes spats. Yes.

710
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: Apparently the duel was said to be about a disputed inheritance,

711
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: but it could have been a political fight because Mohun

712
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: was a Wig and Hamilton's was a Tory, and Hamilton's

713
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: had been put in charge of negotiating a peace agreement

714
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: to end the War of the Spanish Succession. But Mohun's

715
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: political patron, who was the Duke of Marlborough, was against that,

716
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: so there that may have been a factor. He's the

717
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: Mohun is the one who issued the challenge to the

718
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: Duke of Hamilton's. He's the one who was like, name

719
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: your second, sir. They both died as a results of

720
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: the duel, and Hamilton's second was charged with manslaughter. It

721
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: was such a violent duel that Queen Anne actually came

722
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: out was like, y'all should not be dueling anymore. This

723
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: is fucked up. Wow, I am the godmother of your

724
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: child and I don't want to see this dueling anymore.

725
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: Boy Hamilton's and duels, right, they just can't They just

726
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: go together? Like Lord Anne himself he died at thirty

727
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: nine years old in France in seventeen forty eight. And

728
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: his second wife, I guess, or first, depending on who

729
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: you asked, Anna Powell, died in a Is seventeen forty three.

730
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, I just caught this.

731
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Lord Anne married Anna Powell, Anna Nanna. Yeah. So anyway,

732
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: Anna died in auguste and this English history author's blog

733
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: says there is an indication that her death may have

734
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: been precipitated by her consumption of gin and it's a

735
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: heavy drinker. So I was just like, damn, did Ann

736
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: drive his wife to drink? And Denisa, well, she died

737
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: the year after they got married. Yeah, and having two sons.

738
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Apparently they had two sons together, so she like very

739
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: quickly had two kids drank enough gin to die. Um

740
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: speculation station a little suspicious to me that this guy

741
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: who is notorious for marrying wealthy women and spending their money,

742
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: and the last one kicked his ass out for doing

743
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: exactly that. Comes in, marries another wealthy heiress, gets two

744
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: kids out of her, and then she's oh, no, she

745
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: died of drinking gin. I guess uh, I don't know.

746
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: It just seems like that would spark some sort of investigation.

747
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think Lord Anne is a murderer.

748
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: He killed his second wife, Anna Powell. You heard it

749
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: here first done bringing on Lord Anne. He got an

750
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: air in a spare and an air and a spars.

751
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: When you get two sons air and a spare, what

752
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: they called it an air in a spare. Wow, I'd

753
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: hate to be the spare. If I was the spare,

754
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: I would marry someone from another country and leave my

755
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: family and renounce my renounce my I guess the spar

756
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: often had to go into the church or into the military,

757
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: so that would be not great. I feel like those

758
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: are not great options. The only air spare that I

759
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: can think of in in British aristocracy did go into

760
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: the military and then did get the hell out of

761
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: that family. That's right. So he said, I'm get married

762
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: to this American lady and dip out to l a.

763
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of titles, but I don't think

764
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: you're allowed to call him that. No. I think it's

765
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: a pretty it's pretty tasteless thing to say about anyone.

766
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: But that is what they used to call it an

767
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: air of spare. And that's the story of Ann of

768
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: egg Hamilton's and Mary Edwards. And it just kind of

769
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: shows you that a love of money can lead to

770
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: a hatred of people, or at least a mismistreatment of people.

771
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: Everyone involved pretty much, I had a fucked up thing

772
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: because of money. I just think that's crazy that every

773
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: single person involved was like either trying to get money,

774
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: trying to keep money, trying to find money, trying to

775
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: extort money. It was just she even bribed people, you know,

776
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: it's just in money, root of all evil. But it

777
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: got ship done. It did get shipped done, and we

778
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: have a lot of cool paintings now. But all the

779
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: all even all the good stuff to come out of

780
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: it was as a result of the bad. It was

781
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: like countering the bad stuff. So it's good, but she's

782
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: still like ruined a man's historical reputation, brought it on himself,

783
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: but it's still it's I think it's just like you said,

784
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: it's perpetuating though. Just all this every action, like you said,

785
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: is in the name of money, and was was bad

786
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: treatment of someone, you know, whether or not they brought

787
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: it on themselves or not. It was just there's nothing,

788
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: but there's nothing, but you know, pretty mean things being

789
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: done throughout this whole story because of money. Yeah. Yeah,

790
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty funny because you know, if

791
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: she had not repudiated the marriage, we probably wouldn't know

792
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: anything about either of them today because he just would

793
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: have done whatever he wanted and she would have, in

794
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: the fullness of time, died, maybe with money or without it,

795
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: but it would have been a normal whatever, just another person.

796
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: So it's kind of cool that, like we even have

797
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: this insight into what it was like to be a

798
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: wealthy woman trying to like have any agency, any any

799
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: authority over your own cash. You during that time, Can

800
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: I do my least favorite segment and I've into a

801
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: devil's advocate? Oh God, well, yes, on on a personal

802
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: level for each of their lives, that would have been bad.

803
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: But he's out there spending her money, right, which means

804
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: he's circulating it into the working class. So had he

805
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: had they stayed together and he spent all their money,

806
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: whatever sort of dynasty her family had might have been

807
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: dissolved into the into the people's hands as opposed to

808
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: being retained by more nobility from time and time again,

809
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: probably not. It probably would have just gone into other

810
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: rich people's pockets, because it depends on what he was

811
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: spending it on. Because if he's buying stuff, then yeah,

812
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: there's some like wealthy merchants that got wealth here. If

813
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: he's buying. If he's gambling, then he's gambling with rich people, right,

814
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: and he's just they're just exchanging fortunes all day long.

815
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: But you know, because I'm like, because I'm thinking, butterfly

816
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: effective if they what would be different today? If they

817
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: had stayed together, if she hadn't read their marriage, if

818
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: he had spent all their money, you know, what kind

819
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: of line could you draw from then to now where

820
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: that money was. Things might be better or worse. They

821
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: might be We might still be under monarchy England today.

822
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: Had this not happened, you know, you step on a

823
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: butterfly and it reigns in Japan, whatever is it? I

824
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: think it's a butterfly flaps his wings and there's a

825
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: hurricane in Japan. At least the correlation there with wind

826
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: if things are different. Yeah, that's the point. The main

827
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: thing is butterflies are in charge of time. If you

828
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: go back in time when you step on a butterfly,

829
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: you come back today and uh, you know, um, we're

830
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: all living in a utopian paradise where everyone has everything

831
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: they need. Wow, just on a butterfly, let's get him.

832
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: I love butterflies, butterfly butterflies. I don't want you to

833
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: kill a bunch of butterflies. But if you just I mean,

834
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: you know the classic ethical conundrum. If you've got to

835
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: kill one butterfly, but everyone in the world is happier,

836
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: would you to it? Yeah? So you ever get a

837
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: time machine time to go with some butterflies, step on one,

838
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: just see what happens. That's the only thing you do.

839
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Then you come back to your normal time and just

840
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: see if anything is different, one butterfly at time. Where's

841
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: that movie? Here's the other problem. Though, it's fucking hard

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