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Speaker 1: I can tell you, guys, the saga of the squeaky shoe.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what what? I've gone on quite a journey

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Speaker 1: with a pair of boots. Oh I know about these boots.

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Speaker 1: You wore them to a con. You kept talking about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, I I uh as a squeaky belt,

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Speaker 2: I do. The algorithm is just like nailed me so

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Speaker 2: thoroughly that like every other thing on Instagram or like

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Speaker 1: Is just boots. And I'm like, right, God, am I

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Speaker 1: that predictable? Yes? I am that predictable.

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Speaker 2: So for a while I had like my brand I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to say brand names because you know, I

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Speaker 2: just it's not worth it.

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Speaker 1: Because they're not saying you yeah, well no.

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Speaker 2: It's also just there's good, there's bad, there's all kinds

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Speaker 2: of feelings. So I had like my go to company

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Speaker 2: that I found like ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: It was this European boot company, and I just loved

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Speaker 2: But they would last about a year and a half

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Speaker 1: You know what, I bet they're expensive.

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Speaker 2: Like these were one hundred and fifty two hundred boots.

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Speaker 1: Right, so not not only worth a year exactly.

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Speaker 2: Well, That's what I started to realize is I was like,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, I'm fine because I would buy like

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Speaker 1: I got through two or three different boots. But I

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Speaker 1: beach boots and then your regular boots right X, your

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Speaker 1: summer boots, summer boots, fall boots that go with shorts,

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Speaker 2: No, you know what the secret to that company's boots were.

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Speaker 2: They always had a zipper on the.

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Speaker 1: Side, right, don't have to relate something big thing.

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Speaker 2: So okay, so that was my company. That was my

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Speaker 2: and then I had that realization. I'm like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: I started looking into like there's this whole world of

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Speaker 2: or five companies that have been around forever. They handmake

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Speaker 2: all their things. You have to like special order, you

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Speaker 2: talking then we're talking five hundred dollars plus for a

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Speaker 2: over like conversations with Alex, like can I do this?

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Speaker 2: Can't you know, can't I spend this kind of money

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Speaker 1: Am I fee worthy of a splurge? And call Zurich

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Speaker 2: And then a job came in or something happened, where

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Speaker 2: like it was like I had done well, like i'd

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Speaker 2: gotten I'd done well for the household. And it's was like,

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Speaker 2: all right, if you're gonna buy the boots, now's the time.

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Speaker 2: So I find the pair. You know, I had been

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Speaker 2: going on websites. I mean, this is like free time.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. Now I just don't allow myself to do this.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, so I found the boots. I knew

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Speaker 2: the thing, ordered took a while to get there. Finally

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Speaker 2: get these boots, put them on my feet are killing me?

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Speaker 1: Oh no. So they're like for like any women days.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, what have I done.

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Speaker 2: I've heard all these things are heavy, They're like, you know,

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Speaker 2: they're so well made.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know, I'm so yeah. Now I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Like I am just the biggest.

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Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? Like I can't now. I

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking up and sure enough it's a thing.

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Speaker 2: I have been through it with these boots. These are

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Speaker 2: these are my rider Die boots. Everything is great about

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Speaker 2: They're not metal toe. They's just enough metal in them

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Speaker 2: know what I'm gonna I'm just gonna take my shoes off.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be worth it, right.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, I was in Ireland two weeks ago catching

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Speaker 2: And I'm bragging about the boots and they're like looking

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Speaker 1: We take a walk and we're walking and we all

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's uh, it's my left boot. It's squeaky.

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Speaker 1: And we did a lot of walking on this trip and.

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Speaker 1: Was like there was it was all I could hear,

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Speaker 2: And now I came home and I was like, no,

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Speaker 2: you know what I hear baby powder? You just baby

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Speaker 2: powdered on the inside. No, I can't get rid of the.

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Speaker 1: Squeaky I don't know what to do. Guys, I still

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Speaker 1: love these shoes. No, I've tried all different kinds of socks.

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Speaker 2: I mean now my next step is like a leather

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Speaker 2: I do I send it back to Atticus?

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Speaker 1: Do I say? I think? I think you need to

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Speaker 1: call Atticus and say I think this boot is haunted? Right?

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Speaker 1: Does the tree they cobble in have cell service?

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Speaker 2: I got to I've got to send a telegram or messenger.

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Speaker 2: It's just I just because my immediate thing is like, oh,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, how much am I investing in these boots?

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Speaker 1: I love them? But how they get you? That's how

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Speaker 2: It's the some cost fallacy, right, It's like, because I

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Speaker 1: Keep get to you. But here is the truth about what,

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Speaker 1: and say love it love these boots. I am extremely

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Speaker 2: Is there?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a less metal version? And if they

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Speaker 3: Exactly. Have you tried w D forty your entire foot

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Speaker 3: it's your foot. Maybe it's just squeaky foot.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I should my foot off to make

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Speaker 3: Just first of all, the pain in your feet for

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Speaker 1: Because after that, those are dinner shoes. Those are shoes

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm learning. Yeah, But the other thing we

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Speaker 1: shoes exactly. But you you buy a pair of shoes

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Speaker 1: not so bad. I will have a squeaky bet as well.

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Speaker 1: You want a whole outfit? Wait? Wait, how does your

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Speaker 1: belt squeakly every time you take a step or something

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Speaker 1: just moving multiple places. I've been with you a few times.

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Speaker 1: I've been like, oh, you're were in the squeaky belt,

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Speaker 1: and You're like, yeah, it's my belt. You got to

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Speaker 1: get a new belt at that point, Like I got it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know. Will, I got a target.

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Speaker 1: It holds my pants up. Conversation and the conversation. He

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Speaker 3: It's not only that, but if you turn it this way,

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Speaker 1: One Yeah, but you can, okay anyway. I just want

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Speaker 1: I just I just would like that when we are

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Speaker 1: I want to have you on one side of Will's

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Speaker 1: like a fifteen year old skater boy exactly. Just this one.

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Speaker 1: Spent seven dollars on two belts in one and this

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Speaker 1: one's five hundred dollars on boots and squeaks. So wow. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: and I'm Wilfredell. Welcome to today's episode recap. It is

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Speaker 1: season five episode twenty Starry Night. It originally aired April third,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. The synopsis when Tapanga goes to an

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Speaker 3: It is you said you don't remember being on the

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00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 3: set at all. Do you not remember choreographing this with

436
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 3: Ben even a little bit?

437
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: Huh No?

438
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean this the second I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah,

439
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: I would totally do this like this. This is something

440
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: that Ben and I would have had so much fun with.

441
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: But I don't actually specifically remember this want you know,

442
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: but yeah, this all feels of a piece of like, oh,

443
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 2: this is my acting relationship with Ben, is that we

444
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,239
Speaker 2: could do this with our eyes. I knew exactly how

445
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: he was going to say it every time, and it

446
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: was always just so fun.

447
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: Sean doesn't miss a single beat, copying every reminiscent detail

448
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: to a tea, then a little girl walks by. Corey

449
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: reaches out for her Topanga. The girl is terrified and

450
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: scurries away, shouting for her mom. Sean yells at him

451
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: to stop. He tells Corey he's being ridiculous, and Corey

452
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: reminds him, we were supposed to go to the museum today.

453
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 1: Topanga was really excited about this new van Go exhibit.

454
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: He assumed she went without him. Shawn's amused, No, you're

455
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: there with her right now. Why don't you tell the

456
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: monkey bar story again? Because I want to see if

457
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: my head will actually explode. Corey asks if he's just

458
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: a clown here to amuse Sean, giving a light nod

459
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: to the movie Goodfellas. Sean reveals that Angela went to

460
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: the exhibit with Tapanga. Corey shouts back, well, I was

461
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: supposed to go with her. He camped out overnight at

462
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Museum of Art to beat the rush for tickets,

463
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: and in the morning he was the only guy online.

464
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember do you remember those conversations right about

465
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: it being online or online? Then you said it. I

466
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I remember those conversations really, because.

467
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: East coast, East coast line and West coastline in line here.

468
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: Really, okay, you're waiting in line? Yeah?

469
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: And now, of course online you know it.

470
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: Means it means the internet, but you still right.

471
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: You would still say I was I spent two hours

472
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: online waiting for something.

473
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: It depends. Now, see you just change it if you

474
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: add waiting.

475
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: I think it changes where if I am online, that's

476
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: one thing, but it's I'm waiting in line. I think

477
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 3: both of those are now. But when you were grown,

478
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: I would just be like, no, I'm online, right, I'm waiting.

479
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 3: Then I'm waiting in line.

480
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: You're waiting in or you're just on it? Correct? Gotcha? Yeah?

481
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: I love I love the weird rules. I'm going to

482
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: write writing it down. Sean points out that he was

483
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: also the only guy online. Corey Size says Philadelphia is

484
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: a cultural vacuum. Sean smiles, That's why my people settled here.

485
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 2: The transition was like, that's I just love when Sean's

486
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: so confident about his you know, his.

487
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: Background, that proud we haven't had yet.

488
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: We haven't had it for a while, you know, while

489
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: since we've had like all a fourth season was like

490
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: trailer park Sean and like proud of his poverty, and

491
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: we haven't seen that, so it was cool to see, like, ah,

492
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: that attitude come out.

493
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: It's funny. The boys sit on the bench in silence,

494
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: staring off into the distance. Then we're in the Philadelphia

495
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: Art Museum. We get a transition, turning the boys on

496
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: the bench into a sepia toned photo with Corey and

497
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: Sean now dressed in old timey clothes like a paper.

498
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: Boy or somebody still really like I would I would

499
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: pay a lot of money for that.

500
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: I could have that frame photo.

501
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 2: I just loved it. I was like what taking it?

502
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: I was like, that is so great. It's got to

503
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: be somewhere. Let's reach out to Blazer yea, let's reach

504
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 1: out to him.

505
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: That was like one of the first times I saw

506
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 2: a prop and I was like, I really really want that.

507
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm having a yogurt cup delivered next week.

508
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm very excited.

509
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna cho mountain in your backyard.

510
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: The backyard. Oh, there's a paper boy hat, a vest

511
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: a top hat and high rain boots. But they're sitting

512
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: on the same park bench. This picture is hanging in

513
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Art Museum. Do you remember taking the picture? Writer,

514
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: No at all, No, but I love this stuff.

515
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: I've always loved like old timey photographs and dressing up

516
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 2: for stuff like this.

517
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: You have a great one of your family like hanging

518
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: in your house.

519
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: But I can't believe that I don't I don't know

520
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: remember doing this. I mean it just goes to show

521
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: like production days were just so hectic, like I know,

522
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: and this wouldn't have been something we've rehearsed. So what

523
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: I you know, what I remember is rehearsals and the

524
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: and the day of you're like, oh, quick, we need rider,

525
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: bend over here, get in this, change quick, take your book,

526
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: like move on, and so I'm just like, that's you know,

527
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: twenty minutes of your life and then you forget it.

528
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: So totally.

529
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: I have a question about this joke because I didn't

530
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: fully understand it. Is it supposed to be that Tapanga

531
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: sees Corey and Sewan because Corey is on her mind

532
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: all the time, And if that's the joke, I thought

533
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: they were going to cut back when Angela sees it

534
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: and it was going to just be two guys.

535
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's actually Corey and Sean, So I don't

536
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: necessarily understand what the joke is. Silas Matthews and Ebenezer Hunter. Right,

537
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: but they look so much like Corey Matthews and Sean Hunter.

538
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't get the joke.

539
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: No, I think, well, it's you know, absurdist, but but

540
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: I do think it kind of plays into the themes

541
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: of the episode. Is like seeing what you you know,

542
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 2: interpreting the pictures. I like the I like what you're saying. Like,

543
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: I think if we had had photoshop or or two

544
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: other actors, yeah, they I think it would have been

545
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: nice if one Angela looks at it and squints, you

546
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: see it again from two different people, that would have

547
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: been cool. Like, I agree, I think that's more clever.

548
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I kind of took it as like,

549
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just okay, it's surreal.

550
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. It was totally just me. I didn't

551
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: understand the joke. Tapega reads the title of the picture

552
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: silas Matthews and Ebenezer Hunter founding Fathers. A confused, Topanga

553
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: and Angela studied the picture very closely. Tapega admits, I

554
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: was supposed to come here with Corey. Everything reminds me

555
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: of him. Angela continues to stare at the picture. Perplexed,

556
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Topega can't hold it in. I miss him, Angela reminds her,

557
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: You've been waiting forever to see this exhibit. Tapega didn't

558
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: even hear her. How could he talk to another girl

559
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: all night? How could he kiss her? Angela in the

560
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: World's Biggest sweater in case you forgot, she was about

561
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: to have a baby in real life, reiterates Corey said

562
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: it didn't mean anything. It's still not making sense to Topanga,

563
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 1: he kissed another girl? How could it not mean anything?

564
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: I should have left him up on those monkey bars.

565
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: Angela snaps her fingers to protest not the monkey bars story.

566
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: Tapega can't help but smile while reminiscing, I was in

567
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: the sandbox. Oh sandbox. Oh he had a part of sandbox.

568
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: I was in the sandbox and I saw the cutest little,

569
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: curly haired boy on the monkey to Panga turns to

570
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: see Angela mimicking her story and body language perfectly, just

571
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: like Sean did earlier. To Pega size Okay, just forget it.

572
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: I've already lost track of like where core and to

573
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: Panga are at, because it seems like Tapanga ended the

574
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: relationship pretty confidently. Yes, she did, and not because of

575
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: the kiss, right, Like, so for her to bring up

576
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: the kiss now it's like she brought it. She was

577
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: like he wasn't sure and so that destabilized. Like, really,

578
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: the way the last episode ended was I believed that

579
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: we were meant for each other, and the fact that

580
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: you needed to go spend, you know, go on the

581
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: other day with Lauren indicates to me that that's probably

582
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: not the case and that we're actually so it's and

583
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: then now she's sick, and don't be upset about the kiss,

584
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: like you're upset about you You broke open this notion

585
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: of destiny, like you thought you were meant to be together.

586
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 2: The fact that he wanted to go be with this

587
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: other girl and had a good time. So I feel

588
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 2: like Tapanga should start this episode being like it sucks,

589
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm sad, but it's the right thing to do because

590
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: I've made this she put herself into positions.

591
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: Were not right for each other. Obviously right, that is

592
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: exactly where she should be and it is exactly by

593
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: the way, one of my biggest issues with the whole

594
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: episode is like there are things to bank is making

595
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: very clear throughout this episode that loyalty is the most

596
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: important thing to her, not just in another person, even

597
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: for herself. She is fully broken up with Corey, and

598
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: even then she's saying, it's gonna be so weird to

599
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: go out with someone else. I still feel like I

600
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: belong to Corey. If I go out with him, that

601
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: really means it's over. Like loyalty is so clearly important

602
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: to her, and yet she's in a relationship and she's

603
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: completely hung up on somebody who has shown her he

604
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: does not have loyalty as one of his strong suits

605
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: at all, at least not in their relationship. He does

606
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: for Sean, he does not for their relationship. So yes,

607
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: I wish she was saying, you know, I really thought

608
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: it was so sure that we were meant for each other,

609
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: but he obviously wasn't as sure. And I want to

610
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: be with someone who feels about me the same way

611
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: I feel about them, and it's okay, it's all right,

612
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna but no, we're not.

613
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: No, I thought the same thing, if if, because they

614
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: also could have had another very cool not B story,

615
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: but an a minus or sub a story going on

616
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: where Sean and which shows Sean and Angela really bonding

617
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: over this because they both want to get Corey and

618
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: Topanga back together. So if you reverse it, and it's

619
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: it's Angela going like you were supposed to come here

620
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: with Corey and Topanga going, can we please, I don't

621
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: want to talk about him.

622
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: We're I'm moving on, I'm having a great life.

623
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: That it changes the whole thing, and then Sean and

624
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: Angela do a drive byke this ain't work and we

625
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: gotta try something new, all right, so you have to

626
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: do you know, but it.

627
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: Wasn't it was now we're gone backwards again with Topang.

628
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: It's just think they just wanted to get the exposition

629
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: out about what happened, you know, like because obviously people

630
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: who order and whatever, so it's not serialized. So but

631
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: you have to establish that he cheated and that that's

632
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: like the st but but that isn't the source of

633
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: the trouble. Like you can get through that exposition and

634
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: then have her say, I'm you know, it's it's not

635
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: about kissing somebody else.

636
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: It's about the need to see somebody else, or.

637
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: You know, like what was I guess I guess the

638
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: problem for me is that that journey was just so

639
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: spelled out like that that it wasn't the cheating, it

640
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: was the line, and it was a letter, and then

641
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: the need to.

642
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: See her dead.

643
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: It was like stepped that out through three episodes to

644
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: very clearly specify what it is that bothered to Panga,

645
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: and so for her to be bothered now about the kiss,

646
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: you know, talking to him, No.

647
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: I know, there's also so much more depth than what

648
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: actually bothered her. Then yes, it's a nuanced we you know.

649
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: This episode just takes a sledgehammer to the entire relationship

650
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: because it just becomes about destiny or and it meant

651
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: to be together.

652
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: The only word that was going through I had the

653
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: entire time watching this episode was cartoony.

654
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: Everything was cartoony.

655
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: They just took everything and it was just yeah, just

656
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: became a big caricature of the whole relationship. Again when

657
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: he comes in and is just like this two D

658
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: image of the guy with the earring and.

659
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: What do you think of this? It was just like,

660
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: oh god, it was just bad. Nearby, two other girls

661
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: are admiring a van go painting. Tapanga and Angela walk

662
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: up behind them, and Topanga is obviously captivated by the piece.

663
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: The other girls leave unamused. Topanga stairs at the van go,

664
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: but something else catches Angela's eye. You want to talk

665
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: about emotion, check out the motion coming this way. It's

666
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: a mystery boy and a blazer making a bee line

667
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: for Tapanga. Angela admits, Oh lord, I forget my name.

668
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: She introduces herself, Hi, I'm Nancy or something, which all

669
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: the energy.

670
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: I was like, she does it every time.

671
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, I know, and it's so good,

672
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: and yet it's supposed to be Topanga who's being swept

673
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: off her feet, and it's just like, I just.

674
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: I really hope that they give because I like, I

675
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: feel like, up until now, they have not given Trina

676
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: like this much to do, Like she needed to drive

677
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: the scene. She doesn't need to drive the comedy. She's

678
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: always reactive. She's always kind of eye rolling at Sean

679
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: or Corey or whatever. And when they give her this,

680
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: it's great. She's Oh, you're a great sickcarm actor. And

681
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: I don't think she got many opportunities, even for the

682
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: rest of the show, but this one was fantastic. I

683
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: was like, yes, oh my god.

684
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: So he smiles. Is your name Topanga? Angela interjects, Angela,

685
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: my name is Angela, but I already have a boyfriend.

686
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: The boy continues to smile at Topanga, so Angela catches on,

687
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Oh you mean her, Topega tells the boy that is

688
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: her name. He introduces himself as Ricky Ferris. I'm sure

689
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: you don't remember me, but I certainly remember you, he says.

690
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: She changed his life forever when they were about six

691
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: years old.

692
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: What is it with the Why does it have to

693
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: be rooted and like being a chocolate? I just wonder.

694
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't get it. It's such a weird.

695
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: Trope, like why why does he also have to have

696
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: this like playground? My brain just exploded. I was like,

697
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: what what I know? I just haven't been from twelve this.

698
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: Last year, or you were in front of me at

699
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: the coffee shop and I.

700
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: Was at the French that when you were pretending to

701
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: be a French person at the one time I was

702
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: at that party, I talked to you anything.

703
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: Just come on, I know, it's like years old.

704
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: It has to be like rooted in, like destiny, have

705
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: it like this past.

706
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: When you're seventeen, it already has to be a past.

707
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: And talking about whether they're gonna have kids and move

708
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: to an When.

709
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: We were six and you hit me with the softball

710
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: and then said, I want to live in a big

711
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: suburban house with skylight. What do you look for in

712
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: a life partner? That's what seventeen year olds are really

713
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: concerned with. Well, I am six year olds? Six year olds?

714
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

715
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: Oh did this writer? Because this is what I was

716
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: thinking about too. As I was watching, I was thinking

717
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: about you did.

718
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: This pass the Cagny and Lacey test. What's it called the.

719
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: Right?

720
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: The only scene is is core I mean, uh to

721
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: Panga and Angela and they're only talking talking about.

722
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: The whole time.

723
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: I know.

724
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Topanga surprised. I did Angela questions she did. Ricky nods.

725
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: You ended my little league career. Hit me with a

726
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: fastball so hard on my left cheek. I think I

727
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: still have a mark there, but you don't want to

728
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: see that to Penga giggles. But Angela is dead serious.

729
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: I do, Ricky continues. You were the one who helped

730
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: me realize I was more of an artist than an athlete.

731
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: That's Angela.

732
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: That's six because you got to determine your whole life.

733
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: And you've definitely thought about am I an artist or

734
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: artist athlete? I mean if I had the amount of

735
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: nights Adler and I have stayed up at night talking about, Oh,

736
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: we have to choose yet. He's only five five and

737
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: a half, but we are stressed about it.

738
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: Now you get a baseball in one hand and a

739
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: paint brush in the other.

740
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: Shoes, what are you going to be in life? Son,

741
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: Angela encourages her friend. He owes you make him pay

742
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: to Penga simply responds, I'm sorry, and I promise to

743
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: never hit you on the tush with a fastball ever again.

744
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: A suave Ricky responds, why don't you make it up

745
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: to me by seeing the Van Go exhibit together? To

746
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: peg is a bit taken aback, so Angela speaks up,

747
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: I'll go check out that painting over there, entitled go

748
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: with Him. He's cute. Now with Angela gone, to Pega

749
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: and Ricky admire the Van Go from earlier, He's in awe.

750
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's here under this roof the most

751
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: important painting and the greatest legacy of paintings ever to

752
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: enrich the world. To Pega asks Cris.

753
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: Do we think because his brother was Kenny, right, huh's

754
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: real life kill? And they're like yeah, So like, was

755
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: that intentional? Like did we ask Jonathan to be on

756
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: our show? Because we knew who he was and his

757
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: brother had already been on the show like a teen

758
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: heart throat, right, we was established. I remember being excited

759
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 2: to meet him and have him on the show because

760
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: he was like a good actor. He like had the

761
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: reactor yeah, And it was It's so funny because when

762
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: he started talking, I immediately was like, oh, he's he's

763
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: not used to sitcom because it's the same thing that

764
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: I suffer from in a lot of the episodes.

765
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: Er, yes, you can't hear anything scene you're used to

766
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: being micd right.

767
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess on soap operas. I've never actually

768
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: been on the soap opera set, but I think they

769
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: used booms too.

770
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 3: But everybody, everybody talks unless they're yelling because they have mbresia.

771
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: Then everybody.

772
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: And remember when Chris telling the story about how his

773
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 3: first note to me was like, right, do they need

774
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: you to speak up?

775
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I want it to be real.

776
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: That's the same, right, And I could tell that he

777
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: has the same thing, you know, And he just seemed

778
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: like this the second you open in his mouth. I

779
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: was like, what what he was?

780
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: He was the low sue and I were like, oh,

781
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: he's the low talker from Seinfeld, Like excuse me, that's

782
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: all we kept because it was that same thing. He obviously,

783
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: he's just sitcom is a different beast. It's like voiceover.

784
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: You can get some of the greatest actors in the

785
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: world come in and they just can't do voiceover, and

786
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 3: vice versa.

787
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: It's the same. He's a vocal and a great actor,

788
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: but sitcom is different.

789
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Well, it's just funny because I you know, I've never

790
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 2: seen this episode, but I remember watching the run throughs

791
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: and being like, man, that's a real actor.

792
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: That's a real story.

793
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 2: And it brought out like this great dynamic with Danielle

794
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, this is so amazing.

795
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: And then when I was watching the episode, I was.

796
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: Like, it's lacking energy and it's not. It's not a

797
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: bad performance. It's just that thing, you know.

798
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: But also, you know they wrote him as writing is.

799
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 3: Bad and he's performing in a different type of show.

800
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: There's not a bad performance, it's just not registered.

801
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: So Tapanga asks Irises, Ricky responds, No, Actually, this is

803
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: my second favorite. I was talking about Starry night. Do

804
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: you know it? She's not in a book once, but

805
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: it likely didn't do it justice. Ricky insists, what you

806
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: need is someone who's passionate about it to make you

807
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: passionate about it too. To Penga smiles, Really you know

808
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: anyone like that? Wow, you need Yes for me, you

809
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: will understand surely. Let me tell you about Storry Night.

810
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 1: Actually you won't get it. But if I go there

811
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: with you and explain it to you.

812
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: Which is so, it doesn't make any sense for why

813
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: to Penga would then test Corey with it because actually

814
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: the response from Tapega should be let me explain it

815
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: to you, Corey. And you know, if she believes that

816
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: this guy did that, like if she.

817
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: Knows, she wants to know that he'll be able to

818
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: explain everything to her for the rest of her.

819
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: Life that he correct explain exactly your man explain to

820
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: me in a turn on way.

821
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: Could you mean, could you man to me tell me

822
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: how to be passionate?

823
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 3: It's incite my passion. Tell me tell me what to think, Corey. Actually, Danielle,

824
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 3: here's what he meant.

825
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: Thank you. Actually, you know this whole episode met will

826
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: we're married right now? You when we were twelve.

827
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: It was it was It wasn't even that they tried

828
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: to save it where it's like, it's not me explaining

829
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: the piece to you, it's me letting you know that

830
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 3: until you find passion in your life, you won't understand art.

831
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: And it's like, what the hell is happening?

832
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: Well, I want to see you play a version of

833
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: this character because it would be your dream because you

834
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 2: hate this guy. I was like, I was like, because

835
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: I was laughing earlier, I was saving it until that

836
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: was like, it's not just that he's a two dimensional character,

837
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: because we've had plenty of characters. It's a very specific

838
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: It is that d bag like pretentious guy who's.

839
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: Like too cool for school, you can't stay And it's.

840
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: So funny because it's it's just it's a it's like

841
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: one eighth of who of like of who writer.

842
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 5: Is there's a part will more than anybody when you

843
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 5: really tap into this to your Ricky Ferris, Oh.

844
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: Really you didn't work together. He would have hated me

845
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: if you just knew from a whole if he read,

846
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: if he read and team.

847
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: Beat the like quotes that I was saying.

848
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: At the time, we were best friends.

849
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: But he would have been like, whoa those interviews where

850
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: the two of you are in an interview together and

851
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: he is openly mocking you, but in a loving way.

852
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: But the reason for that is that there is another

853
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: seven eighths of you that isn't this. Oh god, he

854
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: likes all of those pers This one eighth part of

855
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: you thinks sucks. You know, I now love that one

856
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: eighth part of you. Okay, absolutely, I love eight eighth

857
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: of you.

858
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: Writer.

859
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Actually, Daniel, let me explain why. Okay, so.

860
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: No, it is but you're right, this is this is like,

861
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: this is your kryptonite. Like, but that's why I want

862
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: to see you in a mock turtleneck.

863
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: Playing another krypt We need dumb dumb dad, dumb dumb

864
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: mail needs to be Hey, listen to me. I'm going

865
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: to tell you how to do it. I'm just lucky

866
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: to be with a woman. And then the sun comes

867
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: in and goes. Actually, when I was with the Blind Children,

868
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: Oh I love it, I love it. What else does

869
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: will hate?

870
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what else does will hate?

871
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: Will's hell? So Topanga smiles. You know anyone like that?

872
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: Ricky nods, Yeah, I do. Angela watches on a Stepanga

873
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: follows his lead to the next painting. Now we're in

874
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: front of Starry Night. Ricky and Tapanga are staring at

875
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: the legendary piece that is not protected at all. There's

876
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: just nobody else there and you can get about the stress.

877
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And he reveals I think this is

878
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: the most spiritual piece ever painted. They revel in the

879
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: small details and how van Go's religious beliefs tie into

880
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: its meaning. Ricky tells her that's what's moving you. Someone

881
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: is able to let you see right into his soul.

882
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: Ricky laughs at himself, apologizing to her he could talk

883
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: about this painting all day, and then a museum security

884
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: guard appears. You did. The museum will be closing shortly.

885
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: To Panga, can't believe they talked all night. What it

886
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: can happen without even knowing it? Unbelief. And you know

887
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: if you can talk to someone for a long time

888
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: that only bad can come from that, only battery. Do

889
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: either of you know?

890
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: Very very very quick tangent which I say quite a bit,

891
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: but one of you probably knows this. The the Starry

892
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: Night was was van Go's view from his insane asylum room.

893
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: Wasn't it no like not joking, wasn't it.

894
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was well thought that, like, well, no,

895
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: back in the day it was he was in, really

896
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: was it was called the insane asylum or hospital.

897
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure it was there. I think it

898
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: was the asylum at the time.

899
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: But I thought he had one small window and that

900
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: was what he saw through the window.

901
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: I could totally be wrong, but I thought that was

902
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: the story. I don't know. I don't know. Someone someone

903
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: explained it to me.

904
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 6: Looks that looks true.

905
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: Oh oh, did you just google it? Yeah?

906
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: He g.

907
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: It does?

908
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 6: It does seem real, it's saying. In the aftermath of

909
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 6: December eighteen eighty eight, the breakdown and resulted in self

910
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 6: mutilation of his left ear, van Go voluntarily admitted himself

911
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 6: into a lunatic asylum down It used to be a

912
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 6: former monastery and it catered to the wealthy and was

913
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 6: less than half full when Vango arrived, allowing him to

914
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 6: occupy not only a second story bedroom, but a ground

915
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 6: floor room for use of a painting studio. And this

916
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 6: is what he saw outside of the second story.

917
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. Plus was the asylum half full?

918
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: Or where is it talking about? God? In this or

919
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: writers just make that up.

920
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 6: They just that appears to be made up, although I mean,

921
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 6: I'm sure people take different things from it.

922
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ricky tells her talking all days not enough. He

923
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: wonders what she's doing for dinner tomorrow night, and we

924
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: go to break before we get her answer. Then commercial break.

925
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: Then we're back in the Philadelphia Art Museum. Ricky is

926
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: walking out of the exhibit with Tapanga and he mentions

927
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: dinner again. They can keep talking about Starry Night or

928
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: the Real Stars, whatever she wants. Tapanga responds, I've had

929
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: a really great time talking to you, but my head's

930
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: in a funny place right now. Ricky inquires, do you

931
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 1: plan on eating dinner tomorrow night? Haven't we done this before?

932
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: Yes, we could have cut this entire scene, like if

933
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 2: he ended the or ended that last thing saying, uh,

934
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: what are you doing for dinner tomorrow night?

935
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: Then we could just cut to Topanga and Angela talking

936
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: about like what do I do?

937
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: He asked me to doct But instead we have this

938
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: like I think pseudo charming, but I just found it, like.

939
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: It's not about Ricky, it's about that. We need to

940
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: show that Tapenga doesn't feel that she's even that she

941
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: can't even wrap her brain around. Could I possibly even

942
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: have Din say to him? Oh no, no, I don't

943
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: know that I can do that. I'm in a bad place.

944
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: It's all about the purity of Topanga, even though she's

945
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: fully single.

946
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you miss, just know that if you

947
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 3: look up, well I'll be looking back at you.

948
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: What are you saying? I was yelling. I was literally

949
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: yelling at this point at my reading, thank you wish

950
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: she actually wore.

951
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: Flower and it's just a little flower.

952
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: Just one white glove for no reason, like, what are

953
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: you doing? Yes, that was such a strange character and

954
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: not the actor's fault at all. By the way, for

955
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: the record, I know it's just okay. She says yes,

956
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: and he agrees he does too. So he offers this

957
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: plan tomorrow at eight o'clock. We'll meet it. We really

958
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: la perie de croissant Panga ship. He should just bust

959
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: out into French at some point.

960
00:47:53,160 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: Everything that would be so close when yeah, how what's happening?

961
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: You're seventeen and Big Philly be seventeen.

962
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's known he's an artist since he

963
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: was sixteen.

964
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: I got a lot of takes that little French cafe.

965
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: Ricky nods. Here's the thing. We're going to be sitting

966
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: at the same table, and I'm going to be sitting

967
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: across from you. Now. If you want it to be

968
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: a date, you look up from your dinner. If you

969
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: don't want it to be a date, don't look up.

970
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: Just keep looking at your salad, lady dude. But if

971
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: you do look up, I'll be looking back at you. Sorry,

972
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm having at it. My gosh. The

973
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: inmates in the audience at this, and Topanga, who is

974
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: both romantic and a little like American Psycho, walks off

975
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: to Penga watches him leave, and then we noticed Angela's

976
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: head sneakily poking out from a sculpture behind her. Topanga doesn't, Yes,

977
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: it's exactly the same thing as if cook over the

978
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: brilliantly she was great. We need it God, So Topanga

979
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: doesn't even need to look in her direction. All right,

980
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: come on out. Angela reveals herself, and Topanga asks should

981
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: I go out with him or not? Angela weighs the option.

982
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: He's gorgeous, cultured, sensitive artist type wants to take you

983
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: to a romantic French restaurant. Should you go out with him?

984
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 5: Yes?

985
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: To Panga size, I don't know. Angela can't handle it.

986
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: You don't know what he is everything you could want to.

987
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: Pega states the obvious, he's not Corey. If I go

988
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: out with him, then Corey and I are really really finished,

989
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: aren't we. Angela agrees Topanga doesn't know what to do.

990
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: Ricky knew so much about the paintings, and he's complex

991
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: and interesting. Angela asks if she thinks Corey is complex

992
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: and interesting. To Panga nods, yeah, but it's different. You

993
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: don't he's not. He's complex, he's Corey. He's neurotic. He

994
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: and he likes a lot of things that Topanga doesn't get.

995
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: He's obsessive. Yeah, he's not very cheater, cheats the same.

996
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: Does and Corey. Oh, haven't established anything.

997
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. She's never. She's never said like I

998
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: can talk to him about it. He's nothing, She's never.

999
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 1: We don't know. And it's not that there is a sure,

1000
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: it's not that there aren't things about Corey, but we

1001
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: just haven't explored them. We haven't heard from Tapanga what

1002
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: she specifically loves about her man. We don't know. There

1003
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: are obviously things. Is it that he's hysterical because he is?

1004
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: Is it that he's cute? We've heard her say that,

1005
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: We have heard her say and she's definitely been like,

1006
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: you are a very sexy boy. So she's physically attracted

1007
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: to Corey, and that's all we know. Yeah, but like

1008
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: has been sexually attracted to Corey. Corey is truly irresistible

1009
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: to women of his age, So it's not surprising in

1010
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: the universe that Tapega would find Corey physically attractive. But

1011
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: but as far as like what else that you know,

1012
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: she seems to have all of these things that she

1013
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: really looks for in someone. Deep interestspective, sensitive, complex, interesting.

1014
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: Haven't heard her say any that have heard her say

1015
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: to Corey, you don't listen to me. You keep doing

1016
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: these things you think I want. I don't want them.

1017
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: This is not what this is not what I want.

1018
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: So he doesn't know her. I don't know. I don't know,

1019
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: even though I've known Corey all my life. How can

1020
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: I go out with another guy until I know what

1021
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: Corey feels about this painting? And again, I think if

1022
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: we were out somewhere and I were looking at a

1023
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: painting and I was with someone else and they had

1024
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: a different perspective. I'd be able to turn to my

1025
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: friend and I'd say, you know what Jensen would say

1026
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: about this painting, and I would know it like the

1027
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: back of my hand Yep, why do I need to

1028
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: hear it from Corey's own? I would know for sure.

1029
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: I know Corey, he's going to see an attack the aliens.

1030
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: They're shooting beams. That's what he's going to see, because

1031
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: he's gone with me to art shows before and we've

1032
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: already talked about this, or I know he's alien attacked.

1033
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: But also Corey stayed up all night to get her

1034
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: tickets for this thing. He's already done the demonstration of

1035
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: even if I'm going to this thing, I support you,

1036
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 2: I love you. And it's like so it's completely under

1037
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: like she doesn't even need to test his ability to

1038
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: read a painting. That's not why she likes him and

1039
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 2: that but that should be the point, right, it should

1040
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: be the Tapanga says, here's another type of guy who's

1041
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: more like me in some ways, right, but I've always

1042
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: been with Corey, who's actually very different from me, and

1043
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: and you know, just have that conversation, which is a

1044
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: healthy conversation to have like you can have you can

1045
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: be in love with somebody and have very different tastes

1046
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: in music, movies, paintings and look all that stuff. The

1047
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: idea that you would see.

1048
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 3: The thing I was thinking of, but I was as

1049
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 3: I was watching this that would have been such an

1050
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: interesting change would have been if the guy was actually

1051
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 3: an exchange student. He was black, he was from France,

1052
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: he whatever, he was so different and so worldly and well,

1053
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 3: I grew up on a commune.

1054
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: I meant something to where.

1055
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't just a caricature of this thing, right, if

1056
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: she met somebody super interesting who really did That's all

1057
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 3: I was sitting there, is like, okay, so I can

1058
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: get like Corey liked Lauren.

1059
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: She listened to him.

1060
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: They were having fun. They were laughing. They were joking,

1061
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: what Topanga's Lauren? And they just kind of made this version.

1062
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: Do you think what the version they made is? And

1063
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: you find it out at the dinner You find it

1064
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: out at the dinner date. Oh, your parents are real

1065
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: hands off parents too. You're super independent and not neurotic.

1066
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: You want to go spend a year in Paris? I guess, yeah,

1067
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: it's just so they have they have things that like,

1068
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: she goes, wow, what how interesting to talk to somebody

1069
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: who has more of my shared history and has more

1070
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: of my dreams for the future.

1071
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: I just wish that the counter argument is, which is

1072
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: a great argument that could be made, which is that,

1073
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 2: but Corey is my Corey. Corey is this Corey is

1074
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: a different type. I if you, if I wrote down

1075
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: on a piece of paper like the resume for the

1076
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: perfect guy, here's the guy, but that's not actually.

1077
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: Who I love.

1078
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: Who I love is Corey and here's why. Instead it

1079
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: just reduced to this kiss. Right, it's just literally this

1080
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 2: litmus test of the kiss. I didn't feel it, Nope,

1081
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: and it's like what No.

1082
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: Like what you were talking about though, is exactly what

1083
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 3: they were attempting to do.

1084
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: It didn't work.

1085
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: But it's just oversimplified into this destiny love fate thing

1086
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: that it's just such a bummer because it's an opportunity

1087
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 2: to really let Corey shine as a character and to say,

1088
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 2: here are some great qualities about Corey. Yes, he likes baseball,

1089
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 2: which Tapanges not into. He cares about this, which Japang

1090
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: is not into. But that doesn't matter. What matters is

1091
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: the shared you know, the respect and love and the

1092
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: way he I don't know, like, just find those reasons

1093
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: his humor. You know, there are things, but we don't

1094
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: explicate those things because it's just reduced to love, you know,

1095
00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: love capital.

1096
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: L Angela tells Topanga she needs to give Ricky a chance.

1097
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: Maybe one day she won't be telling people she met

1098
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: the guy she loved on the monkey bars, but instead

1099
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: she met him in front of a masterpiece and he

1100
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: swept her off her feet. But Tapanga's mind is made up.

1101
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving my feet for anybody until I give

1102
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: Corey a chance. The audience aw and to Panga lovingly

1103
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: places her head on Angela's shoulder.

1104
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: A chance.

1105
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: She's not this. She gave him fifteen years of a chance.

1106
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: It's also not just that, though, Why does why does

1107
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 3: it have to be you met Maybe you can say

1108
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: you met the love of your life in front.

1109
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: Why can't just be a guy you're dating?

1110
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: I need a guy hang out with me. You're single?

1111
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: Now, go yeah, yes, exactly, you can't.

1112
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: That's miserable to be happy, would be miserable to be

1113
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: happy single?

1114
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: Go go date somebody for a few months. Go yeah,

1115
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: go give that.

1116
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 3: He could be a great distraugling for you right now.

1117
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: To Panga, that's totally aid, but no, he's got to

1118
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: be the love of.

1119
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: Your life forever. Come on right.

1120
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: It's just like the conversation with Ben or Corey and Lauren,

1121
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: where it's like, yeah, what about our suburban future? And

1122
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: it's like, why are we having this conversation with the kids?

1123
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: I know, yes, and I get it that, like you

1124
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: feel like it's intense, Like I understand the feelings, but

1125
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 2: we're actually having out loud conversations that I don't believe

1126
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: seventeen through nineteen year old have or they don't test

1127
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: each other in the same way. They may like dream

1128
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: and like speculat, but you're not literally like would you

1129
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: want two point five kids in a white way?

1130
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: I do. What I will say is that I do

1131
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: think like you said, it does speak to the feelings.

1132
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: Teenagers are having it because we're all imagining what is

1133
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: my life's going to be? It's not yes, and what's

1134
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: my future going to be? And who am I going

1135
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: to be with? And am I going to be with someone?

1136
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: And what are we going to have and where are

1137
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: we going to live? It's so fun to fantasize about

1138
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: so maybe what people do, what people resonated so much

1139
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 1: is it was a real way of those feelings being

1140
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: played out in like, oh, I can't actually no one's

1141
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: having these conversations, but I'm having the thoughts, I'm having

1142
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: the feelings. I can watch these people act my thoughts

1143
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: and fantasies and I can kind of oh wow, and

1144
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: what if that could be me? And then it became

1145
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: the idea of where's my Corey, where's my Tipanga, which

1146
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: possibly screwed up.

1147
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: Well, you know how many comments we get generation how

1148
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: many people if you talk to you that are like man,

1149
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: Corey and Tpanga really made my life difficult when it came.

1150
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: To right, Well, because they don't they don't actually spell

1151
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: out what it is about their love. It's just that

1152
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: their love is destined. I mean, that's the whole point

1153
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: of this episode. And that's like, you know, that can

1154
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: keep you in a really horrible relationship.

1155
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying Corey de Bank.

1156
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: Is necessarily really horrible, but it's also not necessarily good,

1157
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: right right, because it's left blank enough, it's enough of

1158
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: a blank slate for you to project. And that's just

1159
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: to me very dangerous way to approach love for kids,

1160
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: especially for teenagers, like because it has nothing to do

1161
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: with how you actually treat each other or how you

1162
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: actually go about living together or being together.

1163
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: It's yeah, so we're back at the Philadelphia Art Museum.

1164
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: It's the next day. Topega is holding Corey's hand and

1165
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: leading him right to starry Night. She asks him what

1166
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: he sees. Corey gives a slight laugh. Why did she

1167
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: bring him here? Tapega explains, I want to know what

1168
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: you feel about this painting. Corey stutters, I don't get

1169
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: what that has to do with anything. Did something happen

1170
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: here yesterday? It has sure been a long time. In

1171
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: the script since we had a laugh, Angela popping her

1172
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: head up, is that that was the last one? Yeah,

1173
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: that was the last one. And even that is funny.

1174
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: It's a funny moment, but it's not like a hard

1175
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: script laugh, you know, like so's to release the tension. Laugh.

1176
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you walked in while this scenems play, and

1177
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: I didn't get to record him because we had people

1178
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: coming over after we watched this episode.

1179
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: But he just said, wow, now this is a sad story.

1180
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: There's barely any comedy right.

1181
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: It was like yeah.

1182
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: And then we watched until the monkey bar scene and

1183
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: that started, and he just said, ah, they always have

1184
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: a lesson at the end, but the lesson's getting weird.

1185
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow. I mean, I mean he was able because.

1186
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: He hadn't seen the episodes, you know, I think he's

1187
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: seen one episode this season, but that was his takeaway

1188
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, that's pretty really enjoyed. Yeah,

1189
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 2: He's like it feels He's like he knew that there

1190
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: was a lesson, but it just wasn't. He was like,

1191
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: it's weird.

1192
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: I don't it's a weird one. It's a weird lesson.

1193
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, man, I feel yeah. Anyway, but

1194
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: this scene, he was like, there's no lad, there's no comedy.

1195
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, I know. It's very intense to

1196
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: Panga insists this has nothing to do with yesterday. This

1197
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: is about the two of them right now. They were

1198
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: supposed to come here together and she wants to know

1199
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: what would have happened if they did. Corey seems annoyed.

1200
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: So this is some kind of test to Panga nods right,

1201
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: big test test to the biggest Corey scoffs. Forget it

1202
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a test. You don't reduce our relationship

1203
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: to what you think about me because of what I

1204
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: see in a painting. None of that is important. What's important, exactly,

1205
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: what's important is what he sees in her and what

1206
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: she sees in him. To Panga grabs him and loudly shouts,

1207
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: what I see in you portrait of somebody. I thought,

1208
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: I knew she can't contain it any lie.

1209
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: I was like, why are the guards not coming over?

1210
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: We've established a guard, But clearly you guys are screaming

1211
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: at each other in front of a painting, and background

1212
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: actors are not.

1213
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: Not one guys like one.

1214
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 3: One guy in the very back turns to look at

1215
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: them one.

1216
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: Time and then turns back to the pack.

1217
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: That's the thing. There's like a guy walking around looking

1218
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: at paintings behind Tipanga shot and I was like, dude, like,

1219
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 2: you guys are making a scene.

1220
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. How were you able to spend the

1221
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: whole night talking to some girl then kiss her the

1222
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: next day and still think you care about me?

1223
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: So now it's about the kiss and talking, which.

1224
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: And not just about that. How did you kiss someone

1225
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: else and still think you care about me? Which that's

1226
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: that's now her POV, which was not her POV when

1227
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: she was written very well, when she was written with

1228
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,479
Speaker 1: the idea that, Wow, whatever happened between you two during

1229
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: that time you talked wasn't as benign or as I

1230
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: was led to believe, because she came four hours to

1231
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: pursue whatever came from that. So if you feel the

1232
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: same way that there is something more there between you two,

1233
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: that you need to go explore that. That tells me

1234
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: you're not as committed and sure in our relationship, and

1235
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: so you should go.

1236
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: Do that too.

1237
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: If you kiss someone, it means there's feelings, which is

1238
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: just to us smarter and better than that. Yeah, yeah,

1239
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: Corey shouts back, because I did and I do. To

1240
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: Panka yells, you don't, or you wouldn't be able to

1241
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: do those things. Those things don't just happen for no reason,

1242
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: but they have happened for no reason before before to

1243
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:45,479
Speaker 1: your man in this show several times, many times, Corey says,

1244
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: don't tell me how I feel about you. I know

1245
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: how I feel about you. And she kissed me to

1246
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: Pank is furious and you moved away? What did you

1247
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: do to stop her? Corey throws his arms in the air.

1248
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing, I said, kiss me, baby, sweetie, Kill the

1249
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: relationship with the person I care about more than anything,

1250
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: and make me miserable for the rest of my horrible life.

1251
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,959
Speaker 1: And yeah, where's that security guard when you need him?

1252
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 1: Corey says, Laurence kiss meant nothing to him. But she's right.

1253
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: Those things don't happen for no reason. They happen to

1254
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: teach you something. Corey knows now that he will never

1255
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 1: ever love anybody more than he loves Topanga. Topanga isn't

1256
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: giving up. What do you see in the painting, Corey.

1257
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: Corey observes the painting and finally says, I see an attack.

1258
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: The audience laughs and Tepanga is confused. An attack? Corey

1259
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: nods an attack from another world. This is not the

1260
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: answer to Panga was hoping for, so she asks him

1261
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: to look again. What about the relationship between God and man?

1262
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: You know what that other guy man explained to me,

1263
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: Corey nervously says, he was about to get there. See, God,

1264
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: unhappy with how some particular humans treat other particular humans

1265
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: who love them, has decided it's the end of the world.

1266
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: And I wondered, who's he talking about here, the way

1267
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: Corey treated Tapanga or the way Topanga is treating him.

1268
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: You're right, it's just it's I don't know, and I

1269
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: think he's right to Peg is deflated. God is protecting

1270
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: the people in this little town. They live their lives,

1271
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: and they come out of their houses and they see

1272
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: the sky and they know God's protection and love and

1273
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: that everything will be all right. Corey counters, how do

1274
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: you expect me to see good in anything when I

1275
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: feel so bad in here? As he points to his heart,

1276
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: Storry night is just a painting Tapega shoots back, this

1277
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: is a masterpiece. Corey is unfazed. We are a masterpiece,

1278
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: and I don't care what you think right now. We're

1279
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: going to be together forever and I know that. But

1280
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: you still need to find that out. Why Grabs, We

1281
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: now know this, like what has changed from because I

1282
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: mean like coach.

1283
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: For the rest of this episode, Corey is in this

1284
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: like overcont like super correct. But what triggered that?

1285
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: Because he was, I have no idea.

1286
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: But I mean, but we don't.

1287
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: That's what it is.

1288
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: That's it's a higher it's a belief in a higher

1289
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 3: power than is this love show.

1290
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: But he didn't At the beginning of the episode Monkey Bars.

1291
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: At the beginning of the episode, he was free taking

1292
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: out about not going to the museum with to Pangas. Yeah,

1293
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: and so we never see the moment where Corey has

1294
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 2: his you know, moment of insight. Really, I mean what

1295
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: you're talking about faith, right, Love is faith, which we've

1296
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: literally said on the show, so love faith God, Like

1297
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: our show lines all those things up, and now he's

1298
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 2: saying he's been tested by the universe and knows for

1299
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: sure that that was the point of Lauren. Lauren was

1300
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: sent as a test by God for him to fall

1301
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: in love with to Panka. Like that's the story that

1302
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: we're building. I have problems with that, but okay, that's

1303
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: the story of the universe of Boy Meets World. But

1304
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: where was that moment, Like, where was the moment where

1305
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: he transitioned And it could have been this scene. There

1306
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: could have been a moment where he just looks at

1307
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 2: the pain, he looks at the panga and says, I'm

1308
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: not scared anymore or you know, but we never see it.

1309
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: And it was very confused. When he's like with Sean

1310
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: at the end, it was like, this is an intense

1311
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 2: like transition that we kind of just skipped over.

1312
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: By the way. I actually truly love the idea of

1313
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: a character having so much confidence and not only himself

1314
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: but his relationship that he says, I don't care if

1315
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: no one else is with me. I know without a

1316
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: shadow of a doubt, what we have is real. And

1317
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: if it's three months, six months, four years, six years,

1318
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: we're going to end up together and she can go

1319
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: and date any random artist she wants. At the end

1320
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: of the day, what she's going to realize is that

1321
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: no human being will ever love her or take care

1322
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: of her, or know her or be there for her

1323
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: the way I will. That kind of confidence is what

1324
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: I tell young people who come to me for relationship

1325
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: advice all the time. If this person is all the

1326
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: things you think that they are, and they're trying, they're wawfling,

1327
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. You know who you are, you

1328
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: know you're the best thing in the world. There. Let

1329
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: them go out there and see what else is available

1330
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: until they realize, wow, I really let a good thing go.

1331
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: I want that have that confidence. But it shouldn't be

1332
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: for a matter of minutes, shouldn't be one date. It

1333
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't be Topanga going out with one guy. And by

1334
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: the way, I'd love to see Tapega go. I'm about

1335
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: to graduate and I have wanted to go to Paris,

1336
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: and I have summer coming up, and this guy's hot

1337
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: and likes the same things I do. Yeah, maybe this

1338
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: is what I'm supposed to do for a summer and

1339
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: see where it takes me. And if that happens, and

1340
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: we have a full season, half a season, a year

1341
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: of the two of them being broken up and living

1342
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: separate lives and Corey never once waivers in his confidence,

1343
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: we're still getting back together someday.

1344
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: I think that's great.

1345
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: That happens in one exactly.

1346
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 2: I mean that whole conversation around you. They're married at

1347
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: that point, and she gets into Y or they're engaged.

1348
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: She gets engaged, yeah, and they still are.

1349
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: Like why not you You're married, Corey moved to Connecticut.

1350
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: She's gonna go to Yale, like dude, go.

1351
01:07:53,440 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: Go yeah, okay. He grabs her hands, you know where

1352
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: I'll be. Then he walks away and she watches him

1353
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 1: leave the exhibit. Did she have like a week long

1354
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: museum pass or I know, well, there's nobody.

1355
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 3: I mean they set it up that there's nobody there,

1356
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: so kind of no one cares about Vegaz, no one

1357
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 3: cares about Vango ever, so.

1358
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: And then we're in the French cafe, so new Settlert.

1359
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: I think Jamaka shouldate this guy just because he knows

1360
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: a restaurant other than Chubby's. I think already. Tobega and

1361
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: Ricky are seated at a table and she's focused on

1362
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: a story he's telling. So I bought this beret and

1363
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: I grew some hair on my chin, and I told

1364
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: my parents I wanted to put off college and go

1365
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: to Paris and paint for a year. Tapanga asks if

1366
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: they went crazy, but Ricky tells her they didn't. In fact,

1367
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: they thought it'd be a good idea to expand his individuality.

1368
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: But he's just testing them. But now he really has

1369
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: to go. Tapanga thought she had the only parents like

1370
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: that in the world. And we get some rare continuity.

1371
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: She tells him about almost moving to Pittsburgh and her aunt.

1372
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: Ricky unders what was so important that she wanted to

1373
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: stay to Pank admits there was this boy. Ricky smiles,

1374
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: So you've been in love. He's so excited about it.

1375
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: I love you should just let me. I believe it

1376
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: was Rumble who said at least it wasn't I know

1377
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: my god. I was like, don't do it, don't do

1378
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: it to Pang admits Yeah, I have, but I've never

1379
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: been to Paris, which is maybe the most spot online. Yeah.

1380
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: I've dedicated the last fifteen years of my life to

1381
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: one person, and it's I've called it love, and yet

1382
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: I have no real life experiences Pittsburgh. Yeah, I can't.

1383
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: I can't leave word, which she kind of ruined. Yeah,

1384
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: so he stalked me when I the one time I

1385
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: left the state.

1386
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's.

1387
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,799
Speaker 1: Going to prevent me from going to the Ivy College.

1388
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,799
Speaker 3: And Danielle, as you were saying the whole thing about

1389
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: you know, we're going to be together. If it's six months,

1390
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: if it's four months, whatever, it's six years, we're going

1391
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 3: to be I just thought how different that same speech

1392
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: would sound if you casted somebody crazy saying it, Yeah,

1393
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 3: if you got someone going, I don't care.

1394
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 1: If it's six months, I don't we're going to end

1395
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: up together. It's like, oh, I mean, you don't even

1396
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: need to say it to the other person. I'm saying

1397
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: when he's talking to Sean for him to say to Sean, listen,

1398
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 1: I have no doubt she can go and have all

1399
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: the experiences in life that she wants, and she should.

1400
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: I hope she does. But I know no one's better

1401
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: for me than her, and she'll eventually realize that someday,

1402
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: and I'm going to go about and live my life.

1403
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: But I you know, I.

1404
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 3: Could have reversed it, though it would have been interesting

1405
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 3: is if it was Corey who told her to go

1406
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 3: out with them, like you should get with them.

1407
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: I think you should now go and see what happens

1408
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: the way she did. I mean, he does kind of say, hey,

1409
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: you need to still find that out. You know where

1410
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: I'll be. So in a little bit he does the

1411
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: same thing that Tapega did. So Ricky tells her that

1412
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 1: now she'll have an excuse. Topanga laughs. She hardly knows him.

1413
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: Ricky disagrees. We've known each other for a whole day

1414
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: and dinner and we're almost done with dessert. Tapega asks

1415
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: to see what he's drawing, and he rips off his

1416
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: side of the paper table covering. He shows her a

1417
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: beautiful bouquet of brightly colored flowers he's made Tapega looks

1418
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 1: at them in awe. They're beautiful. He says, they're no

1419
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: van go. She tells him she's had a really rough day,

1420
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: and he's making it less rough. He's been thinking about

1421
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: her ever since the museum. It's amazing when it can

1422
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: be a day like any other, and without even expecting it,

1423
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: you meet somebody interesting, inspiring, and you can talk for hours.

1424
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: Where are the jokes in this show?

1425
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: Single laugh in the same It's just.

1426
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: Where are they? Could there be anything, by the way,

1427
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: anything even remotely? Why is this the fantasy they think

1428
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: that a woman wants on a date? This conversation is

1429
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: so boring. There's not anything. It's not fun. It's just

1430
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: and by the way, they're talking about Corey.

1431
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:20,959
Speaker 4: About anything other than your other relationship, like anything.

1432
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: To Bank asks, what did you just say? Ricky continues,

1433
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 1: those things don't just happen for no reason to Panga agrees,

1434
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: repeating Corey's words from earlier, they happen to teach you something.

1435
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: Ricky begins to lean in closer to Panga, asks you're

1436
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: going to kiss me now, aren't you. He nods, and

1437
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: they kiss. The audience lets out a combination of it.

1438
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: No idea. They're like, we don't want this, but.

1439
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: We kind of do, like it's just.

1440
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: Sexy. But I know, do you remember kissing him, Danielle? Yeah,

1441
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: I do, I remember. I remember all we I mean

1442
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 1: he's very cute, obviously, sure, he's super professional, really polite, nice,

1443
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: nice guy. Uh and yeah, I mean the funny thing

1444
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: is I remember thinking it was weird to kiss someone

1445
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: other than Ben. I remember, this is weird dating that. Yeah,

1446
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: I was dating that at the time. I think I'm

1447
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: also wearing a necklace Jonathan gave me. I had a

1448
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,839
Speaker 1: lot of weird stuff going on. There's weird stuff happening

1449
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: in Danielle's life. I don't know what was going on,

1450
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: so who knows. We come back to John Adams high

1451
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: Sean stands at Angela's locker and disbelief. How could you

1452
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: let her go out with another guy? Angela scoffs letter

1453
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: I told her to and again, I think this is

1454
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 1: supposed to be the laugh like this, Yeah, this is

1455
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: the comedy section. Here's the comedy, but it's it's so intense.

1456
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 3: Yelling at her like yeah, and Angela is the only

1457
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 3: one the entire episode that has any sense. I know,

1458
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: it's amazing, But I love I liked this scene in

1459
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: that I was just like nice to see Sean and

1460
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 3: Angela together.

1461
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 1: And like dynamic.

1462
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, Sean's actually listening to her, and

1463
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: like I thought it was.

1464
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: I was like cool, that's.

1465
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: Like, it was just nice to see it, and the

1466
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: writing was clever the whole, like, yeah, we're.

1467
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: Gonna I'm gonna show you different sides of myself. So

1468
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: this is me very upset. Why would you?

1469
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 2: That's all very me.

1470
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm just yelling and angry, but I still just I

1471
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I was just nice to see Sean in

1472
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: a scene with girlfriend. I know which. By the way,

1473
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: now you guys are okay. We've talked about it for

1474
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: a few episodes. You guys are absolutely boyfriend and girlfriend

1475
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: when truly, the last time we had any sort of

1476
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: status update about your relationship was the first Girlfriend's Club

1477
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: when you said I want to take a step back,

1478
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: I want to be friends to go So I don't

1479
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: get it. So Sean can't believe it. He asks for

1480
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: a time out. You and I we're going pretty good, right,

1481
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: Angela smiles, Yeah, Sean continues, so we should try and

1482
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: show all the different sides of our personalities, right, Angela agrees,

1483
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Sean takes a deep breath. Good. So then

1484
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: this is me really really mad. He yells in her face.

1485
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: You told her to go out with another guy? How

1486
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: will that get them back together? He may not be

1487
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: the smartest kid in school, but he thinks it's bad.

1488
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: Angela mimicks Sean, all right, this is me really really practical.

1489
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: Corey and te Beannga have broken up. They both need

1490
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: to get on with their lives. They argue back and

1491
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: forth on whether or not the two are actually broken up,

1492
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: causing other students around them to rightfully stare, were we

1493
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: the first people to do We weren't broken up? We

1494
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: were on a break? Or was friends? When did friends

1495
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: do that? This is ninety eight? Mm hmm. Friends was first?

1496
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: When did friends?

1497
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 3: Err? Because we were on a break? Ross and Rachel

1498
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 3: hook after the end of season one?

1499
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that happened that early. Yeah, we were on

1500
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: a break. I think we came before this. It's on

1501
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 1: first heard the one with the morning after We can't break?

1502
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: So there you go? Is it a breaker? Is it?

1503
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: And is it a breaker? Yes? Okay, well gold we

1504
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: cleared that up. Angela reminds him he went out with

1505
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: another girl. She went out with another guy. Shawn is

1506
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: still peeved. If I went out with another girl tonight,

1507
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: that wouldn't mean I don't love you, and we wouldn't

1508
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: be broken up tomorrow. Angela retorts, you go out with

1509
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: another girl tonight, and you'll be plenty broken tomorrow, because

1510
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: I will break you. She gives him a kiss and

1511
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: John smiles. He emphasizes the Coreanapanga have been together for

1512
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: fifteen years. These rules don't apply to them. Angela feels

1513
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: they're stuck. They need to see where life takes them,

1514
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: otherwise they're going to be unhappy every day. They agree

1515
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: they don't want that for their friends. Now here's where

1516
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: Sean has a really good point. If we were married

1517
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,839
Speaker 1: in our late thirties or forties, with a couple of kids,

1518
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 1: one to three kids, and you've been together for fifteen

1519
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: twenty years and one of you meet somebody, you'd spend

1520
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: all night talking to them and you kiss. The rules

1521
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: of that's it. You cheated on me. Get out of here.

1522
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to you anymore. Don't necessarily

1523
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: apply different. You have to say, how is the culture

1524
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: of our relationship led to this moment where you thought

1525
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: this was an acceptable thing to do. We need to

1526
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: talk this out. We have a lot at stake. We've

1527
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: built a life together, we have a family, we have

1528
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: shared whatever. That's a different conversation at seventeen years old.

1529
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: It's not the same consideration. So the fact that Sean

1530
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: is saying these love rules of you went out with

1531
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 1: somebody else, they don't apply to them, is basically saying, oh,

1532
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 1: once you've been if you've been together with somebody for

1533
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: two no matter how old you are, you're already an

1534
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 1: old married couple. You have to treat it differently. It's

1535
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: just weird. It's the logic of that they're destined. I mean,

1536
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: we just have to buy it.

1537
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: Ever since the Romeo and Juliet episode, it's just like

1538
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: we are in like that.

1539
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: That's just they're destined.

1540
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: We have to stany.

1541
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 3: I think this is also a good place to talk

1542
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 3: about the power of music in an episode, because the

1543
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 3: music in this episode is so melodramatic and high hand

1544
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 3: that it just sucks you down another level the entire time,

1545
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 3: where it's like if I heard those weeping guitar strings

1546
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: one more.

1547
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: Time, so you got kidding me with this right now? Yeah,

1548
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: it was.

1549
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 3: And I also like to point out because I it

1550
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 3: led me to look something up. There was a big

1551
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 3: change in television this year of nineteen ninety eight. January

1552
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 3: of nineteen ninety eight, Dawson's Creek came out and it

1553
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: became such a big thing in TV, and teenage became

1554
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 3: a big part television. And I still think that painted

1555
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 3: our show with a brush, where hey, look what they did,

1556
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 3: We've got to do that too.

1557
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: And literally, as I'm watching this, I'm like, when did

1558
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: Dawson's Creek come out?

1559
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 3: And it was like four months before that may smart

1560
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 3: So it made such a difference in our show that

1561
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 3: that show came out.

1562
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: You're right. Then the bell rings and Angela grabs Sean's

1563
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 1: hand and they stroll into Phoene's class together. To Pega

1564
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: meets Angela at the door and pulls her away. She

1565
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: whispers that something happened. Angela asks good or bad, and

1566
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: to Panga admits, amazing, absolutely wonderful. I've never had a

1567
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 1: kiss that meant more to me in my life. Angela

1568
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: cringes and turns to Sean. I'm sorry, it's over. Sean

1569
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: slowly turns to Corey, who is now standing behind him.

1570
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: He tells him they need to talk. Corey stares at him,

1571
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: completely unnerved. Just then feene enters the room. I hope

1572
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: everyone enjoyed reading their last Shakespeare play while in high school.

1573
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: The entire class applauds, except for Corey and Sean. Phoene

1574
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: tells the rowdy seniors, Hey, I didn't know you felt

1575
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: that way about it. Okay, we'll do one more. The

1576
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: class groans, and Feenie gives them a big nineties psych

1577
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: then calls on Sean to share a passage from Antony

1578
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: and Cleopatra, something that was meaningful to him. Sean flips

1579
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: through the pages of his book and reads, though it

1580
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: be honest, it is never good to bring bad news.

1581
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: Corey immediately turns around. Phoene admits that's an interesting passage.

1582
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: Why did he choose that? Sean responds, while staring at Corey.

1583
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: I want everyone to understand how important it is not

1584
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: to kill the messenger. And apparently Sean remembered that moment

1585
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: when he read it last night. I was gonna he

1586
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: had no way to know that in the morning he

1587
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: would have bad news to share with him.

1588
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 3: Suddenly, Shakespearean Hugh horn in some Shakespeare in a quick

1589
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 3: Phoene scene.

1590
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind.

1591
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 3: No, I was actually I was cautiously optimistic at this point,

1592
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 3: kind of going like, maybe it'll pick up here, even

1593
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 3: though we're seventeen minutes in and there's gonna be a

1594
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 3: feenie interaction and there's going to be some Shakespeare, and

1595
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 3: I just kind of didn't didn't.

1596
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Corey and Sean walk out of Foene's and

1597
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: Corey announces, okay, a messenger deliver. Sean admits that what

1598
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 1: he's about to say is going to make Corey want

1599
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: to kill him. Corey laughs, I'm not going to kill you.

1600
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: It takes too much time to make to break in

1601
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: a new best friend. Sean comes right out with it,

1602
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: Tapanga went out with another guy last night. I'm sorry.

1603
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: Corey turns to face him. You know, we're the only

1604
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: two guys in the world who still think there's hope

1605
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: for me and too, Panga, you're throwing in the towel.

1606
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: Sean nods, yeah, I am. Corey turns back to his locker.

1607
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. Sean asks if he's okay, and Corey admits, yeah, sure.

1608
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 1: It's an interesting feeling, though. Sean questions what to know

1609
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: it's over, and Corey answers to be the only guy

1610
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: in the world who knows it's not And where did

1611
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: this Cory come?

1612
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 3: Now?

1613
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: I know where did The last time we saw him

1614
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: in the museum he was still kind of stressed out

1615
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the episode. I just don't what

1616
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 2: what changed? Yep, when insight come from where home, like,

1617
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 2: acceptance of fate, the like, it just it's so I

1618
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, it makes for this dramatic reversal

1619
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: in the scene, but it just doesn't make any sense.

1620
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 3: It's not really they're showing the stuff they shouldn't show

1621
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 3: and not showing the stuff that they should a lot

1622
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 3: in this episode. Y It's like, why didn't they show

1623
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 3: this instead of the yes, I don't know.

1624
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: Well, we're still in the John Adams High hallway to

1625
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: Panga and Angela are sitting on the senior couch and

1626
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 1: ask Angela asks the big question, you like this guy? Huh?

1627
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: To Pega can't hide her grin. I'm in love with him.

1628
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: I knew it the minute I kissed him. Angela's alarmed.

1629
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: You're coming off along relationship and you're vulnerable right now.

1630
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: You shouldn't rush into something because of one kiss from

1631
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: some gorgeous, perfect guy. It was just a kiss, wasn't it.

1632
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: To Pega can't stop smiling. That's all it took. Do

1633
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: you know what I felt when he kissed me? Angela laughs,

1634
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: probably to Pega reveals nothing, she felt nothing. Angela's confused.

1635
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: To Pega explains, I called him to day to let

1636
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: him know I can never see him again. Angela doesn't

1637
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 1: get it. You did. To Panga announces, because I'm in love.

1638
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't mean high school I love you, I love

1639
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: you too. I mean I am in love with Corey

1640
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: Matthews and I want to be Angela smiles and lets

1641
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: out a huge sigh. To Peka continues, applauds, Yep, there's

1642
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: nobody else in the world for me, and there never

1643
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:22,480
Speaker 1: will be. I'm taken. The audience lets out a rowdy

1644
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: round of applause and yells at this dramatic revelation. And

1645
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: then we're on the park playground. Corey is sitting on

1646
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: the jungle gym and to Panga walks up. She asks

1647
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: what he's doing up there. Corey's face lights up. I

1648
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: was hoping I could sit up here, and a beautiful

1649
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: girl would help me down and we'd fall in love

1650
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years. He shrugs. It worked once.

1651
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: To Pega hops up on the structure and begins to

1652
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: confess to Corey, I met this guy. Corey interrupts her,

1653
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,919
Speaker 1: I went back to look at that painting. To Pega continues,

1654
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: we talked all day. He's not listening to her. Again,

1655
01:23:54,840 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: neither of us are listening to the other, even in

1656
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: the slightest No, there is not one honest moment between

1657
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: the two of us in this entire scene. And I

1658
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: remember this scene, and I remember being told exactly how

1659
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,560
Speaker 1: it should be paced, and that this this is exactly

1660
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: the way it was supposed to be, that there weren't

1661
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be pauses, that somehow us not listening to

1662
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: each other and talking over each other is, yes, is

1663
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 1: some sign of deep, profound love or whatever. And I'm

1664
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: watching it now and it's not correct. It's just not

1665
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: it's not it's not right. It's it seems phony. It

1666
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: seemed forced, it's not romantic. We're not listening to each other.

1667
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: There's nothing about this that makes me say, wow, look

1668
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: at these two together. This is what I've been wanting.

1669
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 3: Don't I don't understand Corey, but it's Ben as the actor.

1670
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 3: But I'm sure it was a note, But I don't

1671
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 3: understand the upbeat way that he starts the scene either.

1672
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I mean.

1673
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: Like where he started this episode one way.

1674
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 2: I know, had a confrontation with Topanga and then is

1675
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,799
Speaker 2: like somewhere along the way, decided that he has absolute

1676
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 2: faith in their relationship, and.

1677
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: He just walks in.

1678
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 3: He's got a smile, like just hoping for someone to help,

1679
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 3: just sit here like.

1680
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: But the idea is that he's going to the park

1681
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night by himself to depressed, right,

1682
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 2: But no, it's and it's completely changed.

1683
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 3: It doesn't make this was this was very stan I

1684
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 3: thought the same thing. I'm like just looking going, No,

1685
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 3: you're not listening. Nobody's listening to anybody.

1686
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: Ye're just saying stuff back and forth. It was yeah,

1687
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: Topanga continues, we talked all day. Corey responds, I wanted

1688
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: to see what you saw in it. To Bega goes on.

1689
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: We went on a date and he drew me a

1690
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: picture of some flowers. Corey explains, I spent half an

1691
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: hour looking at it. Trying to understand it. To Panga

1692
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,879
Speaker 1: spills the big reveal he kissed me or he doesn't react.

1693
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: But I couldn't get it, not by myself. But then

1694
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: I remembered what you said. God protects people in their

1695
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: little homes. But I'm not like you, Topanga. I can't

1696
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: understand those kinds of things so fast. I need you

1697
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: to help me, Tapega continues, And I'm not like you

1698
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: that I understand that you can kiss somebody and have

1699
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,839
Speaker 1: it not mean anything, that you can care about somebody

1700
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: so deeply that nothing can change that, no matter how

1701
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 1: many times you tried to tell me. Tapega understands now.

1702
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: Corey tells her it was a beautiful painting, and Tapega says,

1703
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 1: it's just a painting. They're real and Corey always understood that.

1704
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: Tapega grabs his face into her hands. I love you

1705
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: and I will always love you. He smiles, with his

1706
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: face mushed in her hands. Another guy kissed you, Topega

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01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: gives him a little grin. Yeah, you want to do

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01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: something about it. Corey leans in and kisses her. When

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01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: they break apart to Penga says, I've felt that boy.

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01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Corey wonders, so are we starting over? She nods yeah,

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01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: Then she leans in for another kiss. They look up

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Speaker 1: at this guy and sure enough, it's a starry night.

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01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: They hold each other as we fade into the credits. Well,

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Speaker 1: what do you think you did this week? Your week off?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, that's a good question. Probably slept, yeah,

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01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 3: and was willfully ignorant of this script, right, yeah, speaking,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: Do you think you watched it when it came out?

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01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: Do you think? I know for a fact I did that.

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01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 3: It was the first time I'd ever seen it, and

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01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 3: I was so looking forward to it because there was

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01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 3: something very special for me about watching the Lauren episode

1723
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 3: that I wasn't in again. How I got to completely

1724
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 3: remove myself and just watch as a fan. And the

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01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 3: writing was so good and the acting was so good,

1726
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 3: and I was just with you all as characters, and

1727
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 3: it was just so wonderful. And I had that kind

1728
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 3: of hopefulness going to this episode, and it just this one.

1729
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: This was really tough for me. This episode. This was

1730
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm so trying.

1731
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 3: We've you know, I think the people out there, our

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01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 3: dear listeners, know that we're not here to try to

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01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 3: bash the episodes or crush anything. We're watching them honestly

1734
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 3: for the first time as adults, and we've even had

1735
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 3: conversations with each other like.

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01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: Are we being too harsh? Are we? I mean?

1737
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 3: And then get an episode like this where man I

1738
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 3: tried and it just this one was really really tough

1739
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 3: for me if it was I don't get this.

1740
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: I didn't get this at all. It's just hard to

1741
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: root for Coren Topanga. That's my that's the biggest problem

1742
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: for me.

1743
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: It's like the show so obviously wants me to root

1744
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 2: for them, and I do want to, Like I will.

1745
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 2: I think the idea of like tracking an adolescent relationship

1746
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: to towards marriage, like if we accept that that's the like,

1747
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 2: there's a version of that that could be really cool,

1748
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: you know, and very meaningful. I mean I think about

1749
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: like when I watched Wonder years before we did Boy,

1750
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: like that relationship felt like, oh, it felt like all

1751
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: the ways that I felt about my you know, feelings

1752
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 2: when I was a little kid and or a teenager.

1753
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: Like so there's a I think taking teenage relationships and

1754
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 2: seriously so cool as a concept, but this is it's

1755
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 2: just one step too far. It's yeah, it's you know,

1756
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 2: it's it's didactic, it's telling you what's important, and and

1757
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: it's so heavy, it's so over intellectualized, it's so debated,

1758
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 2: it's it just doesn't actually make sense, and it's it's unfortunate.

1759
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 3: And but for the record, the kind of as awful

1760
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 3: as it was, the joy of it was Kevin and

1761
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 3: Winnie didn't end up together.

1762
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 1: Well that's the point, right, Yeah, that was the point.

1763
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: Is you cherish those relationships and those feelings.

1764
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 2: But you grow up, and by growing up you learn

1765
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: that you can't just pick somebody and you're you're not destined,

1766
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: and that those feelings of destiny don't actually mean that

1767
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 2: you But in this case, like yeah, that's yeah, that's well.

1768
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: Then we're back in the Philadelphia Art Museum. Angela and

1769
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 1: Sewn are staring at a different Vang painting, and she asks,

1770
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: what does this make you think of? He aggressively grabs

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01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: her and places her in front of the painting, and

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01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 1: then passionately kisses her. Then he waltzes up to the

1773
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: next painting. He wonders, what does this make you think of?

1774
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 1: Because paintings make you hot. You see paintings of van

1775
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: Go Stacks of hay, yeah what and she grabs him

1776
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 1: and does the same thing. Then the lovebirds grab hands

1777
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 1: and walk over to what we know is Starry Night.

1778
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: They stare at it for a moment before Angela asks,

1779
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 1: and what about this? He pulls her in close and

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01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: they intensely study the piece.

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01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 2: So this was a miss member, miss remembered. I thought

1782
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:32,440
Speaker 2: we were slammed, which I guess we maybe did rehearsal

1783
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: and then back because she was pregnant or and now

1784
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it, like we probably couldn't have been

1785
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 2: slamming each other up against.

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01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: A wall a museum.

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01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah right, well especially that one security guard and nobody cares, right.

1788
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't understand what what's the message of

1789
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: this about your relationship that your relationship is more sexual,

1790
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 1: has more sexual chemistry or is it just the power

1791
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: of the paintings.

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01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 2: I think the power of the painting. This like we're

1793
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 2: we're like making a game of like make makeout artistic

1794
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 2: and the story just really gets it real art. It's God, right,

1795
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 2: we feel the power of God. Yeah, and I mean

1796
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 2: this this moment actually kind of bummed me out for

1797
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 2: the first time in a while of like, oh, Sean

1798
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 2: and Angela were a fun relationship to have as a

1799
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: counter to the corych Panga thing, And it would have

1800
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 2: been nice if we ended up together because we have

1801
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 2: so many more complicated conversations. I think about being different

1802
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 2: types of people and coming together, and I feel like that,

1803
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 2: you know, because people have said over the years like

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01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 2: that they like the Seawan and Angela relationship more than

1805
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 2: the Corry Topang.

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01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't see why.

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01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's so much more, and it's like

1808
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 2: none of this destiny fate meant to be like authority to.

1809
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: Actually challenge each other and then balance each other out,

1810
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: and or even if you don't end up agreeing, you

1811
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: respect the POV and you know, and come around to saying,

1812
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, I mean in this case, you were one

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01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 1: hundred percent on the idea of no, Corey and Tapanga,

1814
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,839
Speaker 1: we have to get them back together. And she was like, dude,

1815
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 1: I encourage her to go, and I'm sorry, bro, it's over.

1816
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: And you got to a point where you were like, man,

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01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 1: that's not what I want, but it's the reality I

1818
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: have to accept, right, Yeah, that's you know all reason. Yeah, yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you all for joining us for this episode of

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