1 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: Good evening, America, and welcome to the Tuesday edition of 2 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Justin News, No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon, reporting 3 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: to is always from Washington, DC and the Wiredfishcoffee dot 4 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Com studies Widerfish Coffee. You know this is official coffee 5 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: of Justin. It's my favorite coffee. And you can go 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: right now to Wired number two Fishcoffee dot Com and 7 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: get a fantastic ten percent discount just by using the 8 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: promo code just News. You can also punch your camera 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: at that QR code. All right, tonight, we begin our 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: broadcast with some exclusive reporting from Justin News. It's something 11 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: we began a few weeks ago when Tolsea Gabbrett released 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: some newly to classified documents. We've all been wondering the 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: last few years whether the targeting of school parents, or 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: traditional Catholics, or gun owners or Trump supporters was random 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: and the result of just a few bad actors within 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: federal law enforcement. Today we can confirm it was at 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: the direction of the Biden administration and a specific plan 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: written in June twenty two to one. Take a look 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: at this document per on screen. It shows, without a 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: doubt the Biden administration authorized federal law enforcement four years 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: ago to target Americans engaged in quote concerning non criminal 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: behavior in the name of fighting domestic terrorism. But basically 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: they were targeting people who weren't committing crimes, and it 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: had a specific eye on those serving in the military, 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: owning guns or spreading god officials considered to be disinformation 26 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: which in many cases turned out to be true information 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: that the Biden administration just simply disagreed with. We now 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: know this because Director of National Intelligence Telsea Gabbett recently 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: released a fully unredacted version of the prior administration's quote, 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Strategic Implevitation Plan for countering Domestic Terrorism. It might otherwise 31 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: be known as the Plan to Get Conservatives. The memo 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: fully exposes for the first time the law enforcement intelligence 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: work under President Joe Biden that led the FBI to 34 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: probe conservative Catholics and parents protesting school board policies, homeland 35 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: security to engage in all that censorship we've chronicled on 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: the show, and financial regulators to debank gun owners lawful 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: gun owners in some cases. We're going to have a 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: full story on this tomorrow morning atjusinews dot com. But 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: because you're fans of the show you got it first 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: here tonight, and a little bit we're going to ask 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: Congressman Andy Biggs and member of the House Seditionary Committee, 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: what do you think of this document? Amanda? I think 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: we kind of always expected, but now we got the goods. 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: We've delivered the receipts. 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: And congratulations to you on that big, big, big scoop. 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: All right, everybody. 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court earlier today handed the Trump administration a 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: significant procedural win by allowing its transgender military serviceman to 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: take effect, while ongoing legal challenges continue. That this decision 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: lifts a lower courts injunction, enabling the Pentagon to move 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: forward with implementing President Trump's executive order back from January 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: twenty seventh, which restricts military service based on gender identity 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: under specific conditions. And while the High Court did not 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: rule on the constitutional merits of the policy itself, the 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: move marks a victory for the administration's stance on military 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: readiness and unit cohesion. Justices Sonya Soda, Mayor Elena Kagan, 57 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: and Katanji Brown Jackson dissented, indicating a sharp ideological divide. 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: It also we also should note that Katanji Brown Jackson 59 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 2: spoke eleven thousand and three words, when the next closest 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: justice was Amy Coney Barrett at four thousand, four hundred 61 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: and seventy five words. The men who were all clustered 62 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: at the bottom as the least for both spoke a 63 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: collective nine thy, four hundred and ninety words. All right, everybody, 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: On to trade news and negotiations. President Trump met with 65 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: Canadian Prime Minister Mark Karney in a fiery but mostly 66 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: peaceful talk with US. Things hated up when Mark Karney 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: told reporters that Canada is not for sale, and then 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: President Trump retorted by saying and warning, well, never say never. 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: And Kamala Harris's surprise appearance at the twenty twenty five 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: met Gala was the latest reminder of just how out 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: of touch the Democrat elite have become. While working Americans 72 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: are dealing with the consequences, of course, of her party's 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: failed policy, soaring inflation, a brooken border, rising crime. Well, 74 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: she chose to re emerge, not to help, but to 75 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: walk the red carpet with celebrities and fashion influencers. 76 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: The former Vice president. 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: Who has been largely absent from public life since losing 78 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: a President Trump in twenty twenty four, she showed up 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: the event known more for excess than substance. Her attendance 80 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: at a gala theme around black dandyism may. 81 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: Have played well with coastal elites, but I think it. 82 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: Reinforced a growing perception the Democrats are more focused on 83 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: symbolism and social status than. 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: On solving real problems for real people. 85 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: And finally, the White House is advancing a bold reform 86 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: that would eliminate the broken Section eight housing voucher system 87 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: and impose a two year cap on rental aid for 88 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: able bodied adults. The goal well to restore accountability, independency, 89 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: and return housing programs to their original purpose temporarily help. 90 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: Not a permanent lifestyle. 91 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: John just seems like more common sense fixes to frankly 92 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: long persisting problems, especially in big cities. 93 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: Long overdue solution of the Americans the City. You said, 94 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: it's common sense. Yeah, I think that's what we're really 95 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: learning about this president. Ye, that's what it seems to 96 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: be focused on. Speaking of common sense, our first guest 97 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: has a healthy dose of it. He has been one 98 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: of the most coaching voices in Congress seeking accountability for 99 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: that wayward and weaponized federal bureocracy. He joins us from 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: the great state of Arizona. Congressman Andy Bisy's also the 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: host of one of my favorite podcasts, The Big Idea. 102 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: I want that name. It's such an. 103 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 5: It's so Congress. 104 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: Are good to have you back on the show. 105 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 5: Thanks, good to be with you. 106 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: Great to see us, sir. 107 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: All right, I want to start off with the story 108 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: at the top of the show. Here there is this memo. 109 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: You've had a time two chance to read it. I'd 110 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: like to see what your reaction is. What you think 111 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: is it looks like this was a go and license 112 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: to weaponize federal law enforcement against people who weren't committing. 113 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: Crimes, right. 114 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 6: I mean, when you look at it, you see things 115 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 6: like we're going to investigate xenophobia. I mean, there's nothing 116 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 6: criminal about somebody having a xenophobic idea. I mean, that's 117 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 6: kind of bizarre. Ghost guns. They start talking about expanding 118 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 6: the use of Executive Order twelve three three three, which 119 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 6: is what basically the intelligence community has used to spy 120 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 6: on Americans since Ronald Reagan signed it in the early eighties. 121 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 6: I mean, and they start talking about reporting on this 122 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 6: to multilateral institutions, John, and Amanda, what you have here 123 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 6: is this SIP is basically saying we're going to go 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 6: after something called domestic terrorism, which may be nothing more 125 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 6: than quote disinformation related to domestic terrorism, and they're going 126 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: to go after it. 127 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 5: And it has nothing. 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 6: Necessary as you pointed out, has nothing necessarily to do 129 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 6: with actual criminal conduct. This is just merely a broad 130 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 6: broad brush to start spying on Americans. And we saw 131 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 6: that happen oddly enough, about the same time that you 132 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 6: saw all the pies abuse and you saw the going 133 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 6: after parents or Catholics or whatever else. I mean this 134 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 6: because it was unconstrained weaponization that was mentioned in the SIP. 135 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 6: They're going to ostensibly call it domestic terrorism. If you 136 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 6: have anything, it didn't even have to be heterodox. It 137 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 6: doesn't have to be criminal, for sure, but it don't 138 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 6: have to be heterodox. It just has to be something 139 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 6: that does some agent or some local agent says, oh, 140 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 6: we got a beef about this, we're going to check 141 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 6: it out, spying on Americans, violating the Fourth Amendment. 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: Well, and it just has to be something that was 143 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: repugnant to that administration. It sounds like in John had 144 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: on this at the top. I think that for a 145 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: lot of people who still had faith in the FBI 146 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: under Joe Biden, they thought, well, maybe these are a 147 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: few bad apples. Maybe this is certainly the exception and 148 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: not the rule. But it certainly seems that, according to 149 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: this memo that they were trying to at least make 150 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: it the rule. So now with Cash Battell as the 151 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: director of the FBI is not going to make it 152 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: even harder for him to reform that agency. 153 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 6: Well, I mean it is kind of hard. He's having 154 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 6: to go deep and remove agents. He believes there's a 155 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 6: lot of really good agents left, and I don't doubt that, 156 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 6: but you have to discern who are the bad actors 157 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 6: and they need to be removed, and who has a 158 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 6: clear understanding of their duty to adhere to the Constitution. 159 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 6: And by the way, this I mean, if this were 160 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 6: the only time we've seen our federal government violate our 161 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 6: civil rights and the Bill of Rights, I think we 162 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 6: would say, well, that's just that's rough, but we're going 163 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 6: to fix it. But there seems to be a pattern, 164 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 6: and it goes back quite a ways, and you can 165 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 6: really see it pick up steam post to nine to 166 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 6: eleven of two thousand and one. So that's the problem 167 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 6: here and a stensive they're saying, this is domestic terrorism. 168 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 6: But what's Cash Patil going to do. He's going to 169 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 6: have to try to find out people who simply did 170 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 6: not were not willing to stand up and say no, 171 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 6: this is improper, this is not good. And there were 172 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 6: people who did stand up and some of them got 173 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 6: fired for doing that. 174 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the security currency's humiliated just for telling us the truth, sir. 175 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: For the longest time, the FBI's had a standard it's 176 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: called the predicate. You have to have a reasonable supposition 177 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: suspicion that a crime occurred to even open an investigation. 178 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: But this memo eviscerated that. It basically says, if you 179 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: see concerning behavior that's non criminal, go ahead and start investigating. 180 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: How do we get back. 181 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: And restore the standards that used to protect us because 182 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: you had to have a reasonable fision of crime. 183 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 6: Well, I mean that's what what Cash is going to 184 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 6: have to do. Director Patel is going to have to 185 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 6: do it Ian his leadership team, they're going to have 186 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 6: to enforce that. And if there's no predator but you're investigating, 187 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 6: then people need to be let go. 188 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 5: And fired. 189 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: This is man. 190 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 6: I mean, we could talk about this, but I'm glad 191 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 6: we're bringing this up because we're getting ready to get 192 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 6: back into the Pisa reformation. But all of this goes 193 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 6: hand in glove with that as well, because there are 194 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 6: members of the intelligence community NSA, CIA, FBI and they 195 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 6: think that they need they are given authority to do 196 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 6: whatever they want to, regardless of the Fourth Amendment and 197 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 6: the First Amendment, to go after you. And so again 198 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 6: we get to my point where it doesn't matter, and 199 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 6: you're making the same point. 200 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 5: They were taking this to the extreme. 201 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 6: They were saying, we don't really care whether there's criminal 202 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 6: conduct or suspicious conduct, or conduct which may be criminal 203 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 6: they're going to go to And we get back to 204 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 6: my favorite one is xenophobia. 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: I mean. 206 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 5: Xenophobia. Good grief. 207 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 6: They say everybody's xenophobic. If you were for a secure border, 208 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 6: the Biden administration labeled you zenophobic. And when you have 209 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 6: a sip that says you can start looking for people 210 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 6: who might be xenophobic. 211 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 5: What you're saying is we don't care. 212 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 6: If they're exercising a First Amendment right, if they're peacefully 213 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 6: protesting anywhere, or even if they're writing a letter to 214 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 6: the editor that sounds like they want to secure border 215 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 6: that would be xenophobic. 216 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 5: To the Biden administration. 217 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 6: And so it's going to be up to Cash to 218 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 6: really do a good job to clean this out. 219 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's very serendipitous timing for this to 220 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: come out when reforming Faiza is a part of the conversation, 221 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: or as it will be. Sir, you represent a border 222 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: state and you were also running to be the head 223 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: of a border straight running for governor in Arizona. I 224 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: want to ask you about this idea that President Trump 225 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: kind of casually floated a few weeks ago about one 226 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: thousand dollars stipend and paying for flights home for people 227 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: who choose to self deport, And now DHS has confirmed 228 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: that that is in the works. As you talk to 229 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: your constituents and you hear their opinions on these types 230 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: of programs, does it sound like many will take advantage 231 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: of this so that maybe someday they can return lawfully. 232 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: Well, I hope some will. The reality is a lot 233 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 5: of them. 234 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 6: Are going to say because they're hiding right now. I mean, 235 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 6: it's real hard to find them. But if they're going 236 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 6: to get a thousand bucks to get to go back, 237 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 6: and the real question will be are you going to 238 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 6: hold that on their record? 239 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 5: Because here's the deal. 240 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 6: If you've entered the country illegally once and you come 241 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 6: back and you try to get in through the legal process, 242 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 6: get in line, you're not going to make. 243 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 5: It because you entered illegally. 244 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 6: So that's going to be a question that some of 245 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 6: them are going to ask. But the bottom line is, 246 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 6: as they see more and more deportations, and at the 247 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 6: current rate, you're probably somewhere north of six hundred thousand 248 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 6: for this calendar year. By the time by the time 249 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 6: we get there, I think a lot of people will 250 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 6: self deport. 251 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 4: That. 252 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 6: During the Eisenhower era, for instance, we also saw and 253 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 6: when various states were trying to implement in the early 254 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 6: two thousands, you saw people self deport Yeah. 255 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, so important, sir. One last question I want to 256 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: ask you today. The House Intelligence Committee put out a 257 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: very important report. It confirms what you've always been saying. 258 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, when the Congressional baseball shooting occurred, the 259 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: FBI covered up the fact that this man was driven 260 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: by liberal ideology and domestic terrorism. Instead tried to portray 261 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: him as a guy mentally starved trying to commit suicide 262 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: by cop. They said that conclusion wasn't warranted. It was warranted. 263 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: Was telling the American people that he was driven by 264 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: liberal hatred. Your thoughts on taking us eight years to 265 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: get to. 266 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: The truth about that, well, I think every American should 267 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 6: be upset by that. 268 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I know I am. 269 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 6: But look, this is an agency where the head of 270 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 6: the agency was spying on Donald Trump and trying to 271 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 6: entrap him and. 272 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,119 Speaker 5: In his campaign. 273 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 6: So why would we be surprised that they would cover 274 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 6: up that a radical leftist who hated Donald Trump, hated 275 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 6: everybody who supported Donald Trump, hated. 276 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: Members of the House who were Republicans. 277 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 6: We should not be surprised that that agency and the 278 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 6: leaders of that agency would then cover up that. 279 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: This guy was a radical like that. 280 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not surprised by it, and I've long 281 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 6: you and I have, all three of us have long 282 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 6: thought that was the case. But I know, I'm not surprised, 283 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 6: I'm just upset and angry about it. 284 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: Well, sir, you've done so much over the last few 285 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: years to get truth out in the face of a 286 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: very stubborn bureaucracy that didn't want it out. We're starting 287 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: to get it in droves a little bit more and 288 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: you deserve a lot of credit for that. 289 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. Say good to have you on 290 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 4: the show. 291 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 5: Thank you very much. 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Joining 330 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: me now to break ut all down is the host 331 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: of the ezra Levant Show and founder of Rebel News, 332 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: one of the largest online independent news organizations in Canada 333 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: and by far the most trusted. Ezra Levant thanks so 334 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: much for being here. 335 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 7: Well, thanks for the warm introduction. 336 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 8: You know, I was a little bit curious about how 337 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 8: things would go because, for example, when let me Is 338 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 8: Lensky went into the White House, Holy Molly did that explode. 339 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 8: Whereas for example, when the Irish president prime minister went there, 340 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 8: it went smooth. 341 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 7: It was a love in. 342 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 8: I think today's meeting between Donald Trump and Mark Karney 343 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 8: was closer to the love in than the Zelensky argie bargie. 344 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 8: And even on the contentious question of the fifty first state, 345 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 8: I think both sides sort of calmed it down. 346 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 7: They agreed to disagree. 347 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 8: But look, I'm a huge skeptic and critic of Mark Karney. 348 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 8: He's a globalist, he's got three passports, he was a 349 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 8: former director of the World Economic Forum, he's an environmental extremist, 350 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 8: he's for NED zero. But I got to say, I 351 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 8: think he got out unscathed today. 352 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought, because did he have 353 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 2: something to prove to the Canadian people, especially his voters, 354 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: Because I have a feeling that his voters. If you've 355 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 2: got a ven diagram of Trump haters in Canada and 356 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: people who voted for Carney, it might just end up 357 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: being a circle. 358 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: How do you think they felt about it? 359 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 7: Oh? 360 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, And the chief anti Trump advocate in Canada was 361 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 8: Mark carneiy himself. It was his central campaign issue. You know, 362 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 8: only six months ago, the Conservative candidate was ahead by 363 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 8: twenty points in the Bulls. 364 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 7: It was going to be a huge landslide. 365 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 8: But then, I hate to say it, Trump's jokes about 366 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 8: the fifty first state. You know, some people took it 367 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 8: as banter, but there are some Canadians who have an 368 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 8: anti American streak. There's a lot of Trump derangement syndrome 369 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 8: up here, and I think about a million Canadians sort 370 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 8: of moved their vote towards Mark Carney, and he was 371 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 8: banging the anti Trump drum everywhere he went. 372 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 7: So it's sort of weird to see the guy who. 373 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 8: Had the anti Trump campaign now praising Trump. 374 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 7: I don't know if you saw that part. 375 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 8: The first words out of the Mark Kartney's mouth were 376 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 8: I praise your leadership. 377 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 7: You're a transformative leader. I respect you. That was the 378 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 7: guy who eight days ago was bashing Trump. 379 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: Right even on a Friday, he was still sounding for 380 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: more drums and then to kind of say, I was 381 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: you're right, as it was a really remarkable performance. He 382 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: toned everything down, didn't want to be Zelenski. I guess 383 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: is maybe if we turn it. 384 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: Into a verb. 385 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: But here is another element here, which is he wasn't 386 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: able to form a majority govern's kind of minority government. 387 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: He's got an entire province where the people are legitimately 388 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: talking about succession, even though I know the premiere is 389 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: an Alberta yet and an energy industry that on last 390 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: night's show made clear they'll go around Carney to get 391 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: deals in the United States if Carnee gets in the way. 392 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 1: How much does his domestic weakness, even though he won 393 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: the election by a good margin, play into this. 394 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 4: He really doesn't have a lot of room to maneuver, 395 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 4: does he. Well. 396 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 8: Alberta is the province that both has all the oil 397 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 8: and has the most you know anks about being in 398 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 8: Canic because Mark Carney is anti oil. Like I said, 399 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 8: he's a net zero radical. Now right now, the USMCA 400 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 8: trade gives the United States free, in fact preferable access 401 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 8: to buy Canadian oil, and we are the number one 402 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 8: source of US imports, which I think is preferable to 403 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 8: the United States buying oil from OPEC conflict oil countries. 404 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 8: In fact, the Premier of Alberta has said she would 405 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 8: like to double oil production to get the US off 406 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 8: of foreign conflict oil. Imagine if the US didn't have 407 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 8: to import any more oil from regimes in the Middle East. 408 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 8: So that can happen right now under the USMCA. Donald 409 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 8: Trump's talked about turning on the Keystone Excel pipeline. I 410 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 8: think it's revivable. But again, would Mark Carney stop that 411 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 8: he's an anti oil extremist. At the same time, Alberta 412 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 8: sets that oil province again, they're feeling like the rest 413 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 8: of the country wants to undo them. I don't think 414 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 8: there's an American equivalent to that. What happens if there's 415 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 8: one part of the country that's always abused and picked 416 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 8: on and insulted disrespected. In Canada, secession is not against 417 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 8: the law. In fact, both the Parliament and the Supreme 418 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 8: Court have approved it, as long as you have a 419 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 8: referendum with a clear question and a clear result. So 420 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 8: the Premier of Alberta who loves pumping oil, loves selling 421 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 8: old America, has said she would be open to a 422 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 8: secession referendum next year. So it's interesting she's doing that. 423 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 8: On the one hand, she wants to get a better 424 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 8: deal within Canada from Mark Carney. But it's almost like 425 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 8: this second track of the referendum could be in or else. 426 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 8: And if I was an American, I would be paying 427 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 8: very close attention to that. Maybe Donald Trump's fifty first 428 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 8: state might not happen, but if Alberta sort of became 429 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 8: independent in some way from Canada, like imagine if Saudi 430 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 8: Arabia or Venezuela, that much oil we're talking about suddenly 431 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 8: was on up for grabs. So I don't know, it's 432 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 8: very interesting. And I think that Mark Carney, like you say, John, 433 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 8: he's got a wobbly minority. We might be in another 434 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 8: election within the next year. 435 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 4: Wow Wow, yeah ez. 436 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: President Trump is bullish on the tariff, So I don't know. 437 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I think a win win situation in this 438 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: situation is typically both sides being equally unhappy. President Trump 439 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: even indicated that there was nothing that Carne could say 440 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: to him that would change his mind regarding the tariffs, 441 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: So what ultimately is the win win or I guess, 442 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: more accurately lose lose situation for the United States and 443 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: Canada recording trade. 444 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 8: You know, we really are like Batman and Robin. You 445 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 8: guys are the senior partner, but we're the junior partner. 446 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 8: We're a great team. I think it's a wonderful partnership. 447 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 8: And it was clear in today's meeting that Trump didn't 448 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 8: get along with the with the previous Prime minister, Justin 449 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 8: Trudeau or his deputy, Christia Freeland. Trump made that point 450 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 8: crystal clear. So I'm hoping now that that irritant is 451 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 8: out of the way, we can be friendlier. 452 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 7: And like I say that oil that I mean. 453 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 8: I actually wrote a book a few months ago called 454 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 8: Deal of the Century, The America First Plan for Canada's 455 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 8: oil sens because if I'm thinking America First, what do 456 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 8: I want. I want to get that Canadian oil. I 457 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 8: don't want it to go to China. And really I 458 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 8: think of it like a huge real estate deal. It's 459 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 8: a thirteen trillion dollar deal to buy all the oil 460 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 8: from the oil sets for fifty years, get America off 461 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 8: the conflict crew. 462 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 7: So I think maybe if you pitch. 463 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 8: Donald Trump almost like a Greenland deal or a Panama deal, 464 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 8: and say, look, you don't actually have to annex Canada, 465 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 8: and you don't want it anyways. 466 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 7: You don't want. 467 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 8: Another California style left wing vote in the electrocology. And 468 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 8: by the way, Quebec, which is the French Court of Canada, 469 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 8: they speak French, they're bilingual. You don't want that. What 470 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 8: you want is access to the good stuff. You already 471 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 8: have that through the USMCA. So let's be friends. Let's 472 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 8: knock down these chairs. I admit Canada has some nasty 473 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 8: tariffs on dairy, on pole tree, we keep out American 474 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 8: banks and cell phones. 475 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 7: Speaking as a Canadian consumer, I want to get. 476 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 8: Rid of all those trade barriers because I would like 477 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 8: lower prices and I would like access to American cell 478 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 8: phone companies. 479 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 7: American mortgage is American cheese and butter, et cetera. 480 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 8: So I think Trump has some legit grievances. I think 481 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 8: there's a way out of this. And by the way, 482 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 8: I think President Trump showed today that he is willing 483 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 8: to be positive and go forward. I'm hoping because I 484 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 8: think the two countries we're best buddies, and it hasn't 485 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 8: felt that way over the last few months. 486 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: I hope we get back to that. Yeah, I think 487 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: you're right. I think that will all be the ultimate outcome. 488 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: One last question for because we've had this parade of 489 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: liberal foreigners who've come through the United States, and a 490 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: lot of them, like you mentioned, Ireland, Great Britain, now 491 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: Canada got along right and they see him, you know, 492 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: rather moderate. When they're here, they seem, you know, nice guys. 493 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: But when it comes to Canada's Prime Minister, Mark Carney 494 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: is about as left as you can get. 495 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 4: Wait a story. 496 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: This morning, this man wrote an op ed suggesting that 497 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: Americans be prosecuted for putting money into go fund me 498 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: accounts to help those truckers who were honking their ons 499 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: for a better COVID nineteen policy, because they might have 500 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: committed I'm not making this ups edition. 501 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 4: You've probably known this. Americans here didn't know him. 502 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: No matter what Mark persona Mark Kanner brings to America, 503 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: he's pretty far to the left right. 504 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, And remember that's when Trudeau put the country 505 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 8: under martial law, seizing bank accounts. Riot horses. Mark Karney 506 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 8: wrote that op ed in our version of The New 507 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 8: York Times called the Global mail saying that we had 508 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 8: to go harder. So he is not a civil libertarian. 509 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 8: He doesn't believe in the freedom of speech. He would 510 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 8: never support a First Amendment in our country. 511 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 7: He is a bit of a conspiracy theorist. He was 512 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 7: blaming America. 513 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 8: He was trying to make it seem like that was 514 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 8: our January sixth moment in Canada. In fact, it was 515 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 8: peaceful truckers who which is protesting for civil liberties. So 516 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 8: I think Mark Carney is dangerous. Today he managed to 517 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 8: have a smile on his face and get out of 518 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 8: the White House without too much damage. 519 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 7: But we'll see. 520 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 8: Like I say, most Canadians don't know anything about this guy. 521 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 8: He really only returned to Canada in the last few 522 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 8: weeks after being overseas. 523 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 7: For a decade. All of us need to know who 524 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 7: is Mark Carney. 525 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, great point, absolutely everybody. 526 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: Rebelnews dot com. That is the only way to get 527 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 2: to know Mark Karney. Just read I was about to say, 528 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: thanks to the man on the screen, you guys do 529 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: have a real and true news sourcing Hannah to go 530 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: to rebelnews dot com. 531 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 3: Ezra always enjoyed to have you here. Thanks so much. 532 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: For being here. 533 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: All right, everybody, We're going to take a very quick break. 534 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 9: And we will be back on the other side. 535 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. A little news the top off 536 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: this next segment. Bernie Carrick, the former NYPD commissioner who 537 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: gained so much fame for his handling of the nine 538 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: to eleven crisis in New York and before that, cleaning 539 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: up New York streets alongside of Mayor Rudegila. He is 540 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: in the hospital with a cardiac event. We hear that 541 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: he is recoup pritting, that the prognosis is good. We 542 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: want to send our thoughts to me. He's been a 543 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: great friend of the show and of the Justin News 544 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: podcasts and family. So Bernie, we're thinking of you all right. 545 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: Time to turn to us up topic that affects all 546 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: of us. We're all digitally connected. We're like connected all 547 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: day long. It isn't just Nigerian scam artists anymore that 548 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: can steal your money, your privacy, your home, everything. We're 549 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: connected in so many ways. There are all sorts of 550 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: sophisticated threats to you and I every single day. And 551 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: we thought we'd bring in a really great subject expert, 552 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: sell and she's a best selling author and a technical 553 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: ethics expert. Doctor Catherine Albrick, Doctor Albert Good to have 554 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: you on the show. 555 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 5: Hey, it's good to be here, all right. 556 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people look at this and 557 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: they say, you know, it's so easy to have the 558 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: Google suite or the Microsoft suite, and I like convenience, 559 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: but sometimes that convenience those suites create unique vulnerabilities for us. 560 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about you've learned about Google's 561 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: business model and it's relationship the vulnerability. 562 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 10: Yes, so I've actually been concerned about Google for about 563 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 10: fifteen twenty years now. Back in twenty ten ish, they 564 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 10: created something called the Oneness, and this was an idea 565 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 10: that all of their services, which up until that point 566 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 10: had been separate, would all be combined. So your email 567 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 10: would know what you were doing in your calendar, your 568 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 10: Google Docs would be linked up with all of your 569 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 10: Google services, You're messaging, whatever it is, everything would be 570 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 10: combined into one service. Even your Google Maps would be 571 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 10: linked up with your email, for example. 572 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 5: And while that seems. 573 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 10: Convenient on the one hand, now that we have moved 574 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 10: into the artificial intelligence era, it's becoming actually quite dangerous. 575 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 10: And in fact, I was very disturbed to discover in 576 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 10: Google's terms of service and you have to have a 577 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 10: magnifying glass and a lot of time on your hands 578 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 10: to read it all. But in their terms of service, 579 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 10: they have very disturbingly given artificial intelligence, their own DeepMind 580 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 10: artificial intelligence, the right. They've reserved the right to have 581 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 10: artificial intelligence read your email and train on it. Now, 582 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 10: the concern here, we know, so artificial intelligence can write 583 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 10: better emails than all of us. 584 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 5: So you can write a novel probably better than any 585 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 5: of us. 586 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 10: Artificial intelligence does not need to train on how to 587 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 10: write in the English language. 588 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 5: It's very good at that. 589 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 10: What concerns me is that by giving themselves that right, 590 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 10: what Google essentially is reserving is the ability to create 591 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 10: dossiers of information on each individual, all of the one 592 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 10: point eight million Gmail accounts, and to store and record 593 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 10: all of that information. And in the past, so I've 594 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 10: been a privacy advocate for many years, but in the 595 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 10: past people would say, well, I'm going to CEO. 596 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm not a senator. 597 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 10: I am, you know, I'm just a dentist or an 598 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 10: accountant or a housewife. I'm not concerned that they're actually 599 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 10: going to be reading my email, So who cares if 600 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 10: they're able to access this information? Well, AI is the 601 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 10: game changer here because where it's true that the FBI, 602 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 10: the CIA, the n IS, a no one, single agency 603 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 10: or individual or even group of individuals would be able. 604 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 11: To keep track of all of us all the time. 605 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: It's just impossible. 606 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 10: But artificial intelligence has endless amounts of attention, endless amounts 607 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 10: of storage, endless amounts of capability to watch all of us. 608 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 10: And I think with some of the things happening recently 609 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 10: with Google, particularly their refusal to address a recent phishing 610 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 10: scam that happened that could effect one point eight billion 611 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 10: Google users or Gmail users, has me very concerned that 612 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 10: we don't want to unleash artificial intelligence on our emails. 613 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 10: So I think it's time we rethink what we've been 614 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 10: doing for I don't know twenty years. Now, all of 615 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 10: us is getting these free email accounts. You know, at 616 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 10: my church they had a sign up board and I 617 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 10: looked at all the email addresses and I would say 618 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 10: two thirds of them were Gmail dot com. And it 619 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 10: makes sense, it stands to reason, it's free, why not 620 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 10: do it? Well, there are reasons that we shouldn't do it, 621 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 10: and I think Google is beginning to reveal those and 622 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 10: the cracks. 623 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: Are starting to show absolutely. 624 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, the term the oneness sounds 625 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: so unbelievably dystopian, but yeah, Apple kind of has the 626 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: same type thing as far as connectability with their not 627 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: only their devices, but all of the software and apps 628 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: that you can use. I assume that you know on 629 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: the creative side of Dobe probably has something similar in Microsoft. 630 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 3: But is Google unique. 631 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,239 Speaker 2: In that it does allow the AI access to this? 632 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: Is Google the worth or do they do? They all 633 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: do it well. 634 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 10: I haven't seen those that exact language in anyone else's 635 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 10: terms of service. So Google, we have to bear in 636 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 10: mind that Google was really the originator of artificial intelligence. 637 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 10: In fact, the reason that chat GPT exists through something 638 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 10: called open AI is because Elon Musk wanted to create 639 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 10: an open source version of what he saw as a 640 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 10: dangerous development going on with deep Mind at Google, and 641 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 10: so he Originally, open AI was supposed to be open 642 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 10: sourced so people could access it, so they could see 643 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 10: what was happening inside of it. And of course that 644 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 10: model has changed dramatically under cm Altman. But the original 645 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 10: idea really was to protect the world from Google's AI, 646 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 10: he recounts. Elon Musk actually recounts a conversation he had 647 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 10: with Larry Page in which Larry Page was saying, this 648 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 10: thing we're building, this was years ago. This thing we're 649 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 10: building is incredible, it's amazing. It's going to take over. 650 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 10: It's going to be a new species. And Elon Musk, 651 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 10: as he tells the story, he said, I don't want 652 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 10: another species taking over. I think human beings need to 653 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 10: be in charge. And Larry Page apparently told him he 654 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 10: was being speciesist or specist like racist for supporting the 655 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 10: human race over other races. So I think we have 656 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 10: to also look at who is in the leadership at Google, 657 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 10: who is determining the direction of the company. And most disturbingly, 658 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 10: I about two weeks ago, as story came out that 659 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 10: there was a fishing exploit against Google that was very 660 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 10: convincing even to security experts. It was, you know how 661 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 10: normally you get a fishing exploit and it says it's 662 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 10: from you know, hackers r US dot are you And 663 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 10: it says I look care for your Bank of America accounts, 664 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 10: and you click it or you don't click it because 665 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 10: you look to see where it goes. 666 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 5: Well. 667 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 10: In this particular fishing exploit, the address that you would 668 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 10: click to was sites sites dot Google dot com. So 669 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 10: you ever get a phishing email or something that says, 670 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 10: in this case, it said your email contents are being 671 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 10: subpoened by law enforcement and your case number is and 672 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 10: then it had like a sixteen digit long official looking 673 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 10: case number, and it said click here for information, and 674 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 10: it was sites dot Google dot com, so you would 675 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 10: think that's legitimate. 676 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 5: It's Google dot com dot scammers dot ru. 677 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 10: And when you went to that website, there was a 678 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 10: very legitimate looking page that said enter your use and 679 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 10: even password to find out the details of the case 680 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 10: against you. And the minute you do that, then those 681 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 10: scammers whoever they are, those hackers have access to your account. 682 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 10: In the past, if they got access to your email account, 683 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 10: the big concern might be that they would find a 684 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 10: bank account number or some personal information in there. The 685 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 10: problem now is that artificial intelligence can go through each 686 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 10: individual bank account in detail figure out that, oh, I 687 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 10: don't know, three years ago, you went through a toll 688 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 10: booth in Pennsylvania and didn't pay the toll, and you 689 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 10: got a bill by mail for this date and particular 690 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 10: infraction number, and that you paid eighteen dollars and ninety 691 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 10: cents for it, and it could actually personalize on the 692 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 10: fly a scam email to you saying that eighteen seventy 693 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 10: bounced and you now owe eighteen hundred dollars or we're 694 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 10: going to impound your car and issue a warrant for 695 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 10: your arrest. You better pay within the next twenty four 696 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 10: hours and boom there, right there, they've got you. So 697 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 10: AI changes the game. It means that we have to 698 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 10: be extremely careful with what who gets access to our email, 699 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 10: because having access to it now could be personalized scams 700 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 10: that anyone. 701 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 5: Would fall for. 702 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: I'm ready to use the Moses solution for this. Let 703 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: let's go back to stone tablet. 704 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, good with it. Yeah, it's through scary. 705 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 10: Talking about solutions. So back in twenty thirteen, I have 706 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 10: been working on this issue for about ten years at 707 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 10: that point, and I helped to create a private, encrypted 708 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 10: email service for regular people called start Mail. We were 709 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 10: actually running a search engine alternative to Google called start Page, 710 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 10: where you you could start your search on the Internet, 711 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 10: and from that we created start Mail. And I will 712 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 10: never forget the meeting where we were all sitting the 713 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 10: executive team together saying, you know what we really need 714 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 10: now that we're protecting people from Google searches, which are 715 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 10: being used for advertising purposes, we need private email. So 716 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 10: we created startmail dot com, which is it makes encryption, 717 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 10: which is the NSA's best way of protecting data. It 718 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 10: makes it available to regular people. You just move a 719 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 10: toggle switch and your email is encrypted. So email encryption 720 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 10: has always been difficult, but we've made it easy and 721 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 10: that protects people. So I'm encouraging people to make the switch. 722 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 10: Leave the yahoos, leave the gmails, leave all the free services, 723 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 10: and I'd love it if people would switch to start mail. 724 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 4: That's a very good idea. 725 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: Go check it out, folks, Doctor Katheryn Alberg, what a 726 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: great conversation. Thanks for helping us so much, and thanks 727 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: for joining us tonight, Folks, we're going to take a 728 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: quick commercial rank. 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We'll be right back. 751 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 3: Welcome back to just the News, No noise. 752 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 2: I think a lot of Americans think that it is 753 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: completely out of touch for Democrats to prioritize protecting criminal 754 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: illegal aliens from deportation. While Americans are struggling with rising 755 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 2: crime and a broken immigration system, Democrats are pushing for 756 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: policies that reward law breakers and make it harder to 757 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: keep our community safe. Instead of focusing on securing the 758 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: border and deporting those with criminal records, they're more concerned 759 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 2: with protecting people who have disregarded our laws. Joining us 760 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: now to discuss this as the editor in chief for 761 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: AMAC news Line, Shane Harris, good evening, Thanks so much 762 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 2: for being with us. 763 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 3: Shane, thanks for having me on the border. 764 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 2: I have seen a number of Democrats lately who have 765 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 2: expressed what seems to be incredulity over the fact that 766 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 2: their message is not resonating with the American people. 767 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: But their message certainly seems to be. 768 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: Protect people like Kilmar Brego Garcia and for the rest 769 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: of the Americans who are dealing with the still the 770 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 2: fallout from the border crisis, forget them. 771 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, And it's incredibly out of touch and for 772 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 12: Democrats wondering why they're struggling so much, why their party 773 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 12: has a twenty nine percent approval rating. 774 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 11: They need to look. 775 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 12: No further than their stance on illegal immigration than their 776 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 12: stance on President Trump's mission to protect the border. They're 777 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 12: going down there, they're having margaritas with k Abrego Garcia, 778 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 12: who is a suspected MS thirteen gang member, and then 779 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 12: they come back home and they wonder why their own 780 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 12: voters can't stand them. And nothing quite encapsulates democrats struggles 781 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 12: with voters, like their stance on illegal immigration, like how 782 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 12: they're pulling out all the stops to protect people who 783 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 12: aren't even American citizens, who aren't their constituents, and it's 784 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 12: as from an American citizens perspective, it's frankly disgusting to see. 785 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had one of those moments this morning where 786 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: that song from the seventies came back, it's not the 787 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: world I want to get off because I saw President 788 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: Trump policy say, are right thousand dollars to get out 789 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: of the country, self deport you won't be penalized, you 790 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: becoming legally next time, And the Democrats came out and 791 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: we got a better ideafo. 792 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 4: Oh well, maybe they got their. 793 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: Lesson and said they're like no, no, instead of giving them 794 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars in deporting them. 795 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 4: Let's give them a word permit and keep them here. 796 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, they simply don't understand the resentment that 797 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: Americans have for people who I legally entered this country 798 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: and ruined this country. 799 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 4: Why the disconnect. 800 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: Is it because they're just so beholden to money, or 801 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: are they toned off they're not reading the polls. 802 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 11: Well, they're not reading the polls. 803 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 12: And part of it, I think is Trump derangement syndrome. 804 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 12: So we're seeing this all out warfare from the left 805 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 12: to stop the deportation of legal aliens. Well, maybe somebody 806 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 12: ought to inform the Democrats who are so upset about 807 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 12: this that Bill Clinton deported twelve million illegal aliens. You 808 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 12: know how many of them did not have have trials. 809 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 12: The lefts demanding due process for every illegal alien. 810 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 11: Twelve million illegal aliens. 811 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 12: Deported under the Clinton administration, more than ninety percent no 812 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 12: trial under President Obama or remember the left nickname President 813 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 12: Obama the deporter in chief. They were very upset with 814 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 12: him for deporting what were ultimately modest numbers of illegal aliens. 815 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 12: But during the Obama administration, eighty three percent a judge 816 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 12: was not involved in their deportation, and so what we're 817 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 12: seeing now, really this is the culmination of the left's 818 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 12: long term plan. 819 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 8: Right. 820 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 12: They brought in ten million illegal aliens under Joe Biden, 821 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 12: and now they're saying, oh, well, we have to give 822 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 12: a court trial to all of them to deport any 823 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 12: of them. 824 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 11: This was their plan all along. They know that it's completely. 825 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 12: Unrealistic to do a trial for every illegal alien in 826 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 12: this country, and so they're hoping to just ride out 827 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 12: the Trump administration, get a Democrat back in office, and 828 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 12: they'll basically just hold the line from Biden to whoever 829 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 12: they hope the next Democrat is. And really it's undermining 830 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 12: the mandate that the American people delivered to President Trump 831 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 12: last November, and that's why it's so dangerous. 832 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: I saw a headline yesterday regarding Cinco de Mayo and 833 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 2: Legacy News Organization fear mongering about how a lot of 834 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 2: Sinco de Mayo celebrations were canceled because people were concerned 835 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: about ice rays and deportations and such. And it does 836 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 2: seem like the media is really trying to push this 837 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 2: narrative that what President Trump and Tom Homan are doing 838 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 2: is unpopular. However, you look at the raw numbers as 839 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 2: far as especially Hispanic men and black men, and his 840 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 2: support with them has not Wayne, how do you explain it? 841 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 12: Yeah, so, you know minorities, Hispanics who came here legally, 842 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 12: Black Americans, Asian Americans, really all Americans. But you know, 843 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 12: those groups they want to see the law enforce. They 844 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 12: understand how mass unchecked legal immigration hurts our economy, hurts 845 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 12: our housing market, and so that, you know, they're very 846 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 12: supportive of what President Trump is doing. And you know, 847 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 12: it's funny you mentioned the media freaking out about deportations 848 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 12: and all this talk about due process. Well, where there 849 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 12: was due process for people like January sixth, defendants who 850 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 12: were American citizens were left in prison to rot, we're 851 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 12: denied bail for nonviolent crimes. Where was due process for 852 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 12: people like Mark Hawk, who Joe Biden's FBI conducted at 853 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 12: dawn raid on his home, terrified his wife and children. 854 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 12: Where was due process for President Trump when Biden's FBI. 855 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 11: Rated mar A Lago. So you know what we're really. 856 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 12: Seeing, it's almost not even a double standard, it's just 857 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 12: one standard of justice. And that standard is, you know, 858 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 12: if you're an illegal alien, we're going to allow you 859 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 12: to abuse the legal system to stay here as long 860 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 12: as possible. But if you're somebody who we disagree with 861 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 12: politically and you're an American citizen, you don't get due process. 862 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 12: You just get the full brunt of the left wing 863 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 12: lawfare machine. 864 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, really important, real quickly. This just happened a few 865 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: seconds ago. China and the US will meet for trade talks. 866 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: Markets are going to go wild tomorrow. All the naysayers 867 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: and gloom domers in the media have gotten this wrong again. 868 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: These terroriffs keep turning good things for American public. Do 869 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: you think the media is getting tired of getting shown up? 870 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 12: Well, if the last ten years have showed us anything 871 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 12: is that the media is never tired of being shown 872 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 12: up by President Trump. 873 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 11: And really, the sad. 874 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 12: Thing for the corporate media is that this whole thing 875 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 12: was entirely predictable. This is what President Trump has done 876 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 12: his entire career, whether it's in business or politics. He 877 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 12: makes big promises, he comes out hard, and then he 878 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 12: comes to the negotiating table and forges a. 879 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 11: Better deal for the American people. 880 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 2: It's almost like he wrote a book on dealmakings. 881 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 4: That's right, Yes you did. 882 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 2: Shane Heers, thank you so much for joining us tonight, 883 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: and everybody remember that for just sixteen dollars a year, 884 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 2: you will receive the AMAC magazine, access to exclusive money 885 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: saving discounts, and become part of a community that is 886 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 2: holding government accountable. So joined today at AMAC dot us 887 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: slash just News again. 888 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 3: That's AMAC dot us slash just News. 889 00:43:52,160 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 2: Facts matter, your voice matters, so go check out. 890 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody. 891 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 2: A few final thoughts and stories before we head out 892 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: for the weekend. 893 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 3: I think John and I were. 894 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 2: Of the same mind that we needed to hit the 895 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 2: Scota story at the top of the show, and then 896 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 2: you had that major scoop with the FBI, so we 897 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,280 Speaker 2: went with that, thankfully. 898 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 3: But Scote is still very important. 899 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 2: That ruling today that at least for now, President Trump's 900 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 2: executive order banning transgenders from the military can proceed, and 901 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: the left is all up in arms over it. 902 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 4: No, yeah, no, no doubt. This is the religion of politics. Listen. 903 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 4: Why is this important? 904 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: Because normally a preliminary injunction has to meet the fesshild 905 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: of likely chance of succeeding on the merits later, so 906 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: the Court is already sigling that maybe the commander in 907 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: chief has a better chance of winning on this This 908 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: is a major setback for that sort of a po 909 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: far left appeal that the Democrats have built their entire 910 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: political mountain on it. And I think it's really interesting 911 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: because there's nobody that I saw today that was worried 912 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: about the Supreme Court ruling except the twenty percent that 913 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: watched or ten percent or two percent that watch ms NBC. 914 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: So that disconnect we've been talking about all throughout the show, 915 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: including with Shane. Yeah, it's exacerbated again well. 916 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 2: And we hear from a lot of service members at 917 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 2: this network and on this show about how they feel 918 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: about what is happening with the military. And you know, 919 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 2: with Pete Tagg safs Secretary Military Readiness, evening the standards 920 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: between men and women, which I think is as a woman, 921 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 2: I think that the standards should be the same across 922 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: the board. But John, you even look medically and psychologically 923 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 2: at the issues and the statistics pertaining transgender people, and 924 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if they meet that threshold for military 925 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 2: readiness and soundness of mind, and you consider all of 926 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 2: the issues that they can deal with from anxiety to 927 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 2: depression and bipolarism. And it doesn't fit into an environment 928 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 2: in combat where you have to protect your country and 929 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 2: other men and women. 930 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: Certainly, argument the Trump administration made also combat unique cohesion important. 931 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: People feeling comfortable. They're not going to be fighting at 932 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: full capacity. Listen, at the end of the day, people 933 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: going to make whatever choice they are. We have free country. 934 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: We can do what they want. You can't bring it 935 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: into places where it affects the performance of the military. 936 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: And I think most Americans are conflable. We don't want 937 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: to discriminate, but we don't have to make special accommodations. 938 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: And I think that that's the place that these this 939 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: new civil rights era. And I put that in quotes 940 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: that Barack Obama brought in where we're settling, which is, hey, 941 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about losing my free speech rights for everybody, Yeah, 942 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: I am if a transgender person can't force the way 943 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: into the military. 944 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 4: So I think Americans have left this and behind that. 945 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: They're much more worried about what's happening in the dinner 946 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: table in the workplace, and I think that that's going 947 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: to be the key thing. And on that note, the 948 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: China announcement just a few minutes ago, the China trade talks. 949 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 4: That's a big, big hawking deal. 950 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I mean it fits into what 951 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 2: we were just talking about with with Shane, the fact 952 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 2: that President Trump, he starts off on this foot where 953 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's a little bit bella coost to 954 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 2: begin with. President Trump stands firm, and he has been 955 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 2: standing firm, but then you come to a point where 956 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of wiggle room, and then that's when, 957 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I think this is the beginning of I 958 00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: don't want to say the beginning of the end, because 959 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: that's it's the beginning of the doomer mentality for liberals 960 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 2: and then being able to make excuses for what President 961 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: Trump is or isn't doing on well. 962 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: They can't distract as much longer. They're going to have 963 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: to start to address the issues that they don't address, 964 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 1: the economy, the security, the insecurity that they created. And 965 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: I think President Trump is closing down these issues and 966 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: they're off the table now. It's going to be really 967 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: important to find out what the Democratic Party does to 968 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: start addressing them or are they going to go extinct 969 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: failing to address them very interesting. 970 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 2: Hey do you plan on flying into the New York area? 971 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 3: So can I recommend Legardios? 972 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's not do new work. 973 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm at worry about Reagan, although 974 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad that there's been major changes here. But what's 975 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 1: shocking in both of these places when you see what's 976 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: happened now or at the control tower lost contact with 977 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: all planes in the sector for ninety seconds. 978 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 4: Ninety It was so stressful to. 979 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: The gear traffic controllers because I thought the disaster is 980 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: about to happen, that they've taken some psychological time off 981 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: they were traumatized by. But it's happened three times according 982 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: to my sources, this time in two prior times. 983 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 4: And here's the second thing. It's just like what happened 984 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 4: at the DC. 985 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: We had several near misses before the plane in helicopter collided, 986 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: and I mean several near misses after. How do we 987 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: how many even warning signs? Does the god that the 988 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: agency need to do to before they take action? Why 989 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: wait for the tragedy to happen before that. This is 990 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: classic bureocracy. We got to get on top of it. 991 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, this is a great threat to 992 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: air traffick right. 993 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 3: Right here is. 994 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 2: And I spoke to a pilot friend about this after 995 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 2: the Reagan crash, and he said that there are just 996 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 2: far too many people, both air traffic controllers pilots who 997 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 2: who observe the big Sky theory, which is that the 998 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 2: sky is just too big for catastrophe to. 999 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 3: Happen that often. But it has happened that often. We 1000 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 3: have seen it so. 1001 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 4: Much more crowded than ever before. Too. 1002 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: We put more planes up and the more synchronized, and 1003 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: there's much more forgiveness. 1004 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 4: Time between them. 1005 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm starting to like the John Madden bass travel I did, 1006 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: I mean you jump on John MADD's old football bus 1007 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: and he would never go on an airplay afraid of flying. 1008 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: I love to fly and I do it all the time. 1009 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: But someone has to wake up and I listen. I 1010 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: think it's on Sean Duffy. It's not one thing to 1011 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 1: address after fact. Stop letting these things happen, prevent them, 1012 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: Stop telling us you're going to address it after the fact. 1013 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: That's what the last Transportation Secretary, Pete Pudagig done. Sean Duffy, 1014 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: jump in and fix us, because we don't need any 1015 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: more crises in the year right now, we really don't. 1016 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's what the last Transportation secretary did when he 1017 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 2: wasn't on attorney lead. 1018 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 4: He was he was excuse me, yeah. 1019 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Well, I think the President Trump has expressed numerous 1020 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 2: times his confidence in Secretary Duffy, So I think that 1021 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,839 Speaker 2: we're going to get some answers and hopefully some actions soon. 1022 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 2: And you know, the merit based hiring has got to 1023 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 2: be re employed back into something that is literally a 1024 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,240 Speaker 2: life or death situation. 1025 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 4: Sure, we're sure air traffic jam, they really are. 1026 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 5: Yeap. 1027 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 2: All right, everybody, thanks so much for joining us tonight. 1028 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: We appreciate you being here. 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