Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: Welcome to and that's what you really missed a Gleaking
Speaker 3: news episode.
Speaker 2: Clicking note. We have Heather Morris on today because she
Speaker 2: has something very exciting that she has just put out
Speaker 2: into the world. And it's not a child, She's got
Speaker 2: two of those.
Speaker 1: It's a creative child. And now she's got two seasons
Speaker 1: of a podcast.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. So without further ado, let's talk to
Speaker 2: the one and only Heather Morris.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Thank you.
Speaker 2: This is some big Glee family news. Heather's back because
Speaker 2: she has an incredible project to talk about. We're very,
Speaker 2: very very excited to talk about it with her because
Speaker 2: she's brilliant and smart and a producer and a creator
Speaker 2: and a writer the actress. We're talking about her very
Speaker 2: successful scripted podcast, The Bystanders. That's season two is out now.
Speaker 3: Season two.
Speaker 1: Those congrats, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: I brought even more of the Glee gang back together
Speaker 4: because we all love it.
Speaker 5: Jay Lynch and Darren Chris hopped on board.
Speaker 4: We made got a lot such a fun, weird zany
Speaker 4: storyline this season two. I mean we took it, you know,
Speaker 4: pretty zany season one, but season two it's a lot
Speaker 4: of fun, a lot of weirdness, and so Darren Chris
Speaker 4: of course was like, well, yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm going to play it. I'm going to play this.
Speaker 2: Of course, weird is the quicker one of us will
Speaker 2: say yes, precisely, yeah, you know that about us.
Speaker 5: It was not weird. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: It feels like yesterday that we were talking about you
Speaker 1: were like calling me to ask me about some like
Speaker 1: logistics and things, and you were like, how do I
Speaker 1: get these people to do this? Genuinely and like I'm
Speaker 1: just getting this off the ground.
Speaker 5: I called her and I was like, I need your help.
Speaker 4: Your a Tony Award winning human being who's produced other productions.
Speaker 5: Tell me everything you know about this.
Speaker 4: I mean not podcasting in general, but like you have
Speaker 4: a lot of knowledge about how to just get shit done.
Speaker 3: Oh that's kind, it's true, that's kind. To be fair,
Speaker 3: this is not my world though, and so I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know howmon Dragon Home.
Speaker 2: But you did it.
Speaker 1: You didn't do it, and here you are, and I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of you.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: This is really exciting. So season one was really fun.
Speaker 3: You had some glead people, you had Hitchcock and Kristin
Speaker 3: channel with and that was like your first go at it.
Speaker 2: Not bad, not too shabby, not too shabby.
Speaker 3: Tell us about season two, when did it come about,
Speaker 3: and like what was your feelings about, like going into
Speaker 3: it having done a season already, like under your belt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I mean season one was basically when I
Speaker 4: was approa well on approach, but when I was like
Speaker 4: shooting the shit with Ash Lindsay and Jaqueline Hales and
Speaker 4: discussing this first season it was supposed to be like
Speaker 4: a TV show on a movie, and I basically said
Speaker 4: to them like, hey, listen, I really want to turn
Speaker 4: this into a podcast.
Speaker 5: Have you listened to a scripted podcast?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: I love this world.
Speaker 4: It's this whole new genre and I think this could
Speaker 4: really fit well there. And so, I mean, obviously we
Speaker 4: know a lot about that first season. If you haven't
Speaker 4: listened to it, I implore you to go listen to it.
Speaker 5: It's so incredible.
Speaker 4: It's like this nineteen thirties radio drama.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like listening to a play so cool.
Speaker 1: It's like going back to the time of just radio,
Speaker 1: you know, like.
Speaker 4: We have this cool musical score because a lot of
Speaker 4: these podcasts you listen to, I mean they're wonderful actors
Speaker 4: and a great cast, and not as great as sound
Speaker 4: engineer as us. We have a great team Alex Carter
Speaker 4: and Tim McEwan who produced this, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: there's just so much fun and richness in this and
Speaker 4: I think we just took it to that next level. So,
Speaker 4: you know, season two, we just had a bigger budget
Speaker 4: and I jumped on board as a writer this season,
Speaker 4: and so it was, Yeah, so I got to my
Speaker 4: first hand at like long form writing, because I've only
Speaker 4: done like short films and like small little skits, but
Speaker 4: never have I taken it this far. So Ash lindsay
Speaker 4: and Jacqueline Halls, who are the creators and writers and
Speaker 4: directors and all those cool things, definitely navigated us through that.
Speaker 4: And that was a challenge and also really fun. And
Speaker 4: just like I learned a lot about show running, which
Speaker 4: is kind of an upper.
Speaker 5: Hand for females because there's not a lot of female showrunners.
Speaker 5: So it was really great for all of us just.
Speaker 4: To learn that that whole world and just like learn
Speaker 4: writing and like basically just shoved a bunch of knowledge
Speaker 4: down our throats and we learned a lot of hard lessons,
Speaker 4: but you know, we just were so blessed with like casting,
Speaker 4: Like we got a cad casting director Rodriguez and Schwab
Speaker 4: who you know, work under our dear friends, and so yeah,
Speaker 4: that was really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about casting for a second, because this
Speaker 3: cast is insane, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Like the first one.
Speaker 1: Kathleen the hell y'all, Kathleen Turner?
Speaker 4: What's interesting about that name?
Speaker 2: That was like to us, she is a legend, She's
Speaker 2: an icon.
Speaker 5: She's an icon, and like for all of us writers
Speaker 5: and creators, we're just like, I mean.
Speaker 4: The guests, the get of the guests, and then you
Speaker 4: go to like the REGs humans of the world. Like
Speaker 4: I would say, my husband is like, you know, he
Speaker 4: loves art, but he's not like he's not a performer.
Speaker 5: So I'm talking about Kathleen Turner and he's like, I
Speaker 5: have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: And I said, I said, Chandler's mom and friends.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yes, Chandler's mom and friends. I'm like, that's
Speaker 5: all you need to know.
Speaker 2: The identify it. Yes, so true.
Speaker 5: Oh, Chandler's dad, I should say it was Chandler's.
Speaker 1: Dad, right, right, even better.
Speaker 3: But then you've got Margaret Chow and and then we've
Speaker 3: got Luke Cook, who's like just so funny and I
Speaker 3: knew him from like training mate back in the day.
Speaker 1: It's just still wild.
Speaker 2: Oh but right.
Speaker 1: But then we have our Wayne Night.
Speaker 5: I mean way auditioned.
Speaker 1: What newman?
Speaker 5: We got Newman to send in a tape. We doesn't
Speaker 5: even ask for him.
Speaker 4: We just got our you know, we got our producer's tapes,
Speaker 4: which these actors get the sides, and he was one
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 1: Wow, yes, the answer is, yes, you're hired.
Speaker 5: We'll create a job for you.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: That's really awesome.
Speaker 5: We were so lucky with this this cast.
Speaker 4: I was just talking to Luke Cook and I was like,
Speaker 4: I mean, you say you auditioned, but you were our
Speaker 4: first choice for this role, and the fact that you
Speaker 4: sent it in and you nailed it, Like, how lucky
Speaker 4: are we that we.
Speaker 5: Got you for this job?
Speaker 4: And so many I mean, the whole cast was just truly,
Speaker 4: truly so cool. Like we got to go in studio
Speaker 4: with Darren Chris and Wayne Knight. They were the only
Speaker 4: ones that we went in studio to listen to and
Speaker 4: I sat in the back corner with Wayne Knight.
Speaker 5: And even Darren Chris.
Speaker 4: I mean, Darren Criffs was just so funny watched, but
Speaker 4: like Wayne Knight, I was very ya.
Speaker 2: Star strap for Tremblin in the band and how exciting
Speaker 2: to to like get to create this thing that you
Speaker 2: got to write on and then like hav them all
Speaker 2: these legends, like play with the words that all of
Speaker 2: you put together. You put this team together, right team effort,
Speaker 2: Like how did that feel? Coming off of like season one?
Speaker 2: You went very quickly from like asking Jenna, how do
Speaker 2: I do this? To scoring these gigantic people to be
Speaker 2: like a bigger budget.
Speaker 5: To texting season one.
Speaker 4: I just I got numbers from people and I just
Speaker 4: texted them and said, hey, will you do this project?
Speaker 5: And it was COVID and everybody's.
Speaker 2: What happened to you? People? Let it be a lesson.
Speaker 2: Everyone likes Heather, Well, thank you so much. Good people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there might be people in my past lives that
Speaker 4: could say differently based on the mindset at the time.
Speaker 3: That's fair. I feel the same. Yeah, I know the
Speaker 3: same boat.
Speaker 1: And then of course you have like your your friends, cast,
Speaker 1: your friends.
Speaker 4: I mean, I still even texted Jane and I said, hey,
Speaker 4: do you want to do this? We got Kathleen Turner.
Speaker 4: Does that sell it for you?
Speaker 2: And Jane?
Speaker 5: It's just so incredible. She just is down to do whatever.
Speaker 2: I was listening to you this morning and I it
Speaker 2: made me think of sorry for the Glee reference, but
Speaker 2: when she was the Grinch and she's like talking through
Speaker 2: that whole thing, like she's using like the same voice,
Speaker 2: and I realized, it's like Sue's journals.
Speaker 5: It is no it is full Sue's journals.
Speaker 2: And it makes me feel like so comforted, like hearing
Speaker 2: her voice, I know, talk you through this entire like
Speaker 2: who done it? Crazy weird mystery.
Speaker 4: There's nobody more perfect. And I think the best sell
Speaker 4: too was in a usual who Done It? Especially in
Speaker 4: the thirties and forties, it was mostly narrated by a male,
Speaker 4: and it was not hard to pitch to Jane and say, listen,
Speaker 4: we're a female, we're a female creative team, and we
Speaker 4: want this to be a female narrating this show that
Speaker 4: would generally be a male, and we want your iconic
Speaker 4: voice to be the voice for it. And it was
Speaker 4: a no brainer and there's a bunch of like random
Speaker 4: ass Joe Pesci jokes where we basically make fun of
Speaker 4: Joe Peshi the whole time, and she loved that.
Speaker 1: So we got to you love that.
Speaker 3: We love that.
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for who'd done it. So this is
Speaker 2: very satisfying for me.
Speaker 5: It is very satisfying.
Speaker 3: Are you a true crime like junkie or was this
Speaker 3: something that came like another way?
Speaker 4: Well, see, I can't do the podcast true crime because
Speaker 4: I get too I get too anxious in life. And yeah,
Speaker 4: even at one point Taylor came to me, our male
Speaker 4: lady like I was a male man at the time,
Speaker 4: skipped our house and it happened a couple of days
Speaker 4: in a row, and my husband came to me and
Speaker 4: he got well Taylor.
Speaker 5: Taylor was like, do.
Speaker 4: You think he's like a child sex offender? That's why
Speaker 4: he doesn't come to our house? And I was like, Taylor,
Speaker 4: how many is how many podcasts true crime podcasts have
Speaker 4: you listened to? It was like, yeah, maybe I should stop.
Speaker 5: So anyways, I.
Speaker 4: Do really love dark humor and dark comedy and I
Speaker 4: watch a lot of Law and Order SVU.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, okay, So that's it. That's what it is.
Speaker 3: I just get it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear that, but I'm just fascinated.
Speaker 2: Do you watch like me the Knives Out series and
Speaker 2: like those types of yes.
Speaker 5: I love the Boys. The Boys isn't really true crime,
Speaker 5: but there's still.
Speaker 3: Like a yeah, you know something.
Speaker 4: There's it's the weird ship in there, and that's like
Speaker 4: you're laughing at people getting blown up, and you're like.
Speaker 5: Why am I laughing?
Speaker 3: Absolutely well, if there's something wrong with that with you
Speaker 3: and and all of this, there's something wrong with America
Speaker 3: and the way that we we enjoyed just dark comedy,
Speaker 3: because the like attack and for the first episode of
Speaker 3: season two is also hilarious, like.
Speaker 2: This everybody talking anyway. I don't want to spoil what
Speaker 2: happens in this, I know, but it's so funny. And
Speaker 2: also you're like, oh, this is terrifying.
Speaker 4: I just actually listened to season one. And so Season
Speaker 4: one of the Bystanders podcast is loosely based on the
Speaker 4: Kitty Jenevezy story, which is the whole Bystanders psychological phenomenon
Speaker 4: that studied about, you know, a woman who basically gets
Speaker 4: attacked in her apartment complex and there's like a bunch
Speaker 4: of people who witness it and they don't do anything.
Speaker 4: And it had a lot more so to do with
Speaker 4: at the time, she was a gay woman, and you know,
Speaker 4: they they didn't want to get involved or whatever those
Speaker 4: excuses were.
Speaker 5: And so that I just listened to that. And I
Speaker 5: remember when we.
Speaker 4: Were when we were going through the audio portion of
Speaker 4: it and and and deciding what we needed to cut
Speaker 4: and what we what we wanted to keep, and we
Speaker 4: kept going like this is this too much stabbing? Like
Speaker 4: is there too much for the listener? You know, like
Speaker 4: in your ears? Is that like a reason to shut off?
Speaker 4: And it's the same with season two. It's like, you know,
Speaker 4: they every episode, every episode one, we start out with
Speaker 4: like the the emergency situation, How are these bystanders going
Speaker 4: to respond to this?
Speaker 5: How are they going to help? How are they not
Speaker 5: going to help?
Speaker 4: And so you do get that same exact situation in
Speaker 4: season two where a man is basically asking for help,
Speaker 4: and to their best ability, these people are not, you know,
Speaker 4: they're making excuses after excuses, which is interesting. When we
Speaker 4: went into the writing process of it, we were like,
Speaker 4: how do we not shame these people? You know, like
Speaker 4: how do you how do you make people not feel
Speaker 4: ashamed of this? And so you'll find later on like
Speaker 4: these people are learning lessons about life and how they
Speaker 4: can take away from, like, you know, what they didn't
Speaker 4: do or how they can move forward with that.
Speaker 2: During that writing process, are you all also sharing how
Speaker 2: you might react or how you have reacted and sort
Speaker 2: of where you have been the actual bystander in real
Speaker 2: life to things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we definitely sat there and talked about it. We
Speaker 4: were like, what have you done? What have you not done?
Speaker 4: Why did you make an excuse? Because you have to
Speaker 4: get into the headspace of these cares, right you have
Speaker 4: to figure out like where they're coming from. So you
Speaker 4: establish these characters right away, their point of view, why
Speaker 4: they would say no, like we have a lawyer, you know,
Speaker 4: Like we have a lawyer on there who doesn't want
Speaker 4: to get sued. She doesn't want her husband to get sued.
Speaker 4: There's just so many different situations.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: They're they're in water, one of them can't swim, and
Speaker 4: so there's reality to it, you know.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's like different motives, different way.
Speaker 3: It's like when when people talk about like oh, somebody
Speaker 3: gets really scared, somebody pops out and scares you, and
Speaker 3: you're in the situation where some people are like.
Speaker 1: I would run and hide, I.
Speaker 3: Would punch them in the phase, or I would freeze,
Speaker 3: like you to freeze.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, exactly exactly. You mentioned a sound mixing earlier,
Speaker 2: and I have to say that is the first thing
Speaker 2: I noticed from the onset of starting season two. It
Speaker 2: sounds and credible, like you're immediately and I've listened to others,
Speaker 2: like other scripted podcasts before, and like you said, great actors,
Speaker 2: great writing, They're great. However, and you have it in
Speaker 2: the actual description of the episodes to wear headphones if possible, right,
Speaker 2: And I love that you put that in there because
Speaker 2: it is an entire like sound, an entire environment. Because
Speaker 2: I started listening to it on my phone and I
Speaker 2: saw that and I was like, no, no, no, I have
Speaker 2: to this Justice, and I put on my headphones. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, it's like it's crazy. There
Speaker 2: is something happening and all the time where you feel
Speaker 2: like I'm like I'm on the boat. I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 2: on the water right now. Literally, yes, and it.
Speaker 5: Is Kevin, Thank you so much for selling that you
Speaker 5: just sold.
Speaker 2: That's the truth. No, it's gone away by it. How
Speaker 2: important was that going into this, Like was that like
Speaker 2: several discussions that you had about, you know, creating this environment.
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And we worked with with Alex Carter, who did the
Speaker 4: audio engineering in season one, and he basically came to
Speaker 4: us in season two and he said, we have the
Speaker 4: opportunity to go to a Dolby.
Speaker 5: Atmost studio where we can.
Speaker 4: Go and mix this in a way that will make
Speaker 4: the experience just level up a million times, like Mario
Speaker 4: got the fireballs level up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: hopefully people get that.
Speaker 5: Reference, but seriously like so, and we were lucky enough
Speaker 5: to get to experience.
Speaker 4: That with with with the whole team. We all flew
Speaker 4: out to Nashville and we went to a Dolby Atmost
Speaker 4: mixing studio and there are speed you get into this
Speaker 4: room that is just filled. They basically just like designed
Speaker 4: this soundscape where there's like no sound bouncing off the walls,
Speaker 4: so you're only hearing the sound you know that's coming
Speaker 4: from the speakers.
Speaker 5: It's purest form and so you have speakers all around you.
Speaker 4: I kind of posted some of it on my Instagram,
Speaker 4: And so we got to direct these episodes in that
Speaker 4: studio for a week straight.
Speaker 5: We got to sit in there and listen bit by
Speaker 5: bit and like kind of.
Speaker 4: Hash out like where is this person coming from the
Speaker 4: doors at the front of the room.
Speaker 5: They're heading towards the back of the room.
Speaker 4: Those are things as a creative that I have goosebumps,
Speaker 4: like it gets.
Speaker 5: It got me so excited.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in that seat every day, Like how
Speaker 4: lucky am I that I get to sit here and
Speaker 4: create the soundscape for people to listen to.
Speaker 2: That's really cool, fulfilling thing that you probably also didn't
Speaker 2: expect coming into this whole adventure.
Speaker 4: Probably the I least expected that one the most for sure,
Speaker 4: Like I was like, Oh, we're going to get a
Speaker 4: cool cast this season, and the budget's going to be bigger,
Speaker 4: we get to do some campaigns. But no, it was
Speaker 4: sitting in that room and listening to that and just
Speaker 4: going wow, Like they played some Prince music for us
Speaker 4: and we got to listen to that in three D.
Speaker 4: It just was like it was a pinchre moment for us.
Speaker 4: So and we have a wonderful musical score from Tory
Speaker 4: Cummins as well. Who just just made it feel like
Speaker 4: you were in a play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a full play, it's a full movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: So so cool, elevated, elevated. Does it make you want
Speaker 3: to create more things like this?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? It does.
Speaker 4: I mean this is visual, right, Like, this will be
Speaker 4: a visual and this will be something that you see
Speaker 4: and just every time I listen to it, I can
Speaker 4: picture you know, what it's going to look like. And
Speaker 4: that's the fun of podcasts. It's like reading a book.
Speaker 4: You know, you're you're basically deciding what it's going to
Speaker 4: be and what it's.
Speaker 5: Going to look like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your immation is instantly activated.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and so you're kind of like your own director
Speaker 4: in a way when you're listening to it. And so
Speaker 4: the way I envision it and I see it, I
Speaker 4: just can't wait to see this go visual and who
Speaker 4: will bring it to life alongside with us?
Speaker 2: So that that's the plan, that's the plan. Great? Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Luke Cook, just a moment ago was like, so, so
Speaker 5: who's going to pick this up? And can I be
Speaker 5: in it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he would say, of course. I'm sure everyone had
Speaker 2: such a good time working with your entire team. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: when this goes, you need us. We have to be
Speaker 2: there exactly. I mean what a lesson. Also, like you
Speaker 2: said in show running and I guess safer, I feel
Speaker 2: like almost more manageable environment to learn that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really good point too.
Speaker 4: It really felt manageable for us, and it wasn't like
Speaker 4: we got thrown into a like just this like fast
Speaker 4: running oiled machine, whereas most shows I think like once
Speaker 4: you're stepping on that set or that wherever it is,
Speaker 4: whoever is producing this Amazon and Hulu, even if it's small,
Speaker 4: it's like they have their teams and they're ready to go,
Speaker 4: and they are kind of going, and so there's not
Speaker 4: really room to learn and grow.
Speaker 2: Like bosses with big budgets of every day. This is
Speaker 2: costing one hundred thousand dollars, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the stakes are I mean they're high for you,
Speaker 3: but like there there's like a safe place, safe place, safe,
Speaker 3: safe guys, safe.
Speaker 2: Place that I'm seeing that a safe place.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, we definitely felt that the whole time, and we
Speaker 4: were just our executive producer, Mary Elie Stafford provided that
Speaker 4: for us. She was like, I'm here for you, guys,
Speaker 4: and I also want to learn and this is just
Speaker 4: a really great way for us to do that.
Speaker 5: We're professionals, so it wasn't like we're all just knew
Speaker 5: like we all knew what we were doing.
Speaker 2: Sure, and they.
Speaker 5: Keep telling us podcast world is the wild wild West,
Speaker 5: and it's.
Speaker 4: Like, truly, it actually isn't though, Like it's the same concept.
Speaker 4: Why keep treating it like it? You know, we're really
Speaker 4: pushing for especially like with the strike and stuff, Like
Speaker 4: the podcast world is basically free so for us as producers,
Speaker 4: like the learning curve of no, we can make money
Speaker 4: from this and we don't have to have hundreds and
Speaker 4: thousands of listeners. You know, we made this season a
Speaker 4: subscription because rightfully, so if you're going to see this.
Speaker 5: In the movies, you're going to pay money for it.
Speaker 5: If you're going to buy it on Amazon, you're going
Speaker 5: to pay money for it.
Speaker 2: And like that was.
Speaker 4: Important to us, was like, this is an art form
Speaker 4: and we hope that you know, people respect that, that
Speaker 4: they know that this is something that we're just not
Speaker 4: making for fun, and it's like here it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's like heart and passion in it, yes,
Speaker 3: but exactly like people deserve to be paid for their
Speaker 3: work and their service and their time.
Speaker 1: It's why the strike is happening. Is like, yes, you know,
Speaker 1: there's fairness, and just because art is so kind of
Speaker 1: out there and can be wild Westy doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: it should be free and that people aren't giving time,
Speaker 1: the time and their whole selves to it.
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, g Entertainment just doesn't show up out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: It takes a lot of hours from a lot of
Speaker 2: people who have a lot going on in their lives
Speaker 2: and they put their talent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: Where can people listen to this podcast? Heather Well?
Speaker 4: The podcast is available on Apple Podcasts as well as
Speaker 4: on our website, The Buysingers podcast dot com.
Speaker 5: Both of those are they are available up there.
Speaker 4: I believe season one is free and then season two
Speaker 4: is now a subscription.
Speaker 2: Great episodes.
Speaker 5: All episodes of season two are out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have a social as well, right, you
Speaker 1: have a Bystanders.
Speaker 4: Bystanders podcast, the The Underscore Bystanders Underscore podcast on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Okay, amazing, I know it's so good.
Speaker 1: Creator, I can't writer producer Heather Morris.
Speaker 4: Everybody, Oh my god, thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Moul in my mind.
Speaker 1: No, we say we're proclaiming for you.
Speaker 3: So there you have it.
Speaker 2: We're together right here, right now.
Speaker 3: Congratulations to the to the Lady Crew, because you know what,
Speaker 3: women rock and you guys are so talented and people
Speaker 3: need to hear all of the art that.
Speaker 2: You guys make, so always and forever, we love you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, so proud with you guys. Thanks
Speaker 2: for sharing your creativity with the world.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 2: We need it. You're brilliant, are you guys?
Speaker 3: Have you guys been done for a minute or have
Speaker 3: you guys been like hitting the pavement hard?
Speaker 4: We know, we basically got done. We finished. We finished
Speaker 4: like a rough editing before we went to Nashville, but
Speaker 4: Nashville was like two weeks before we were releasing.
Speaker 2: Wow, oh wow fast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were still giving notes like five days before
Speaker 4: we we the put the podcast up.
Speaker 2: Amazing da. I love that though, because then you don't
Speaker 2: have to sit on this thing and anticipate, like wait,
Speaker 2: all the anticipation. It's just out. You created it, put
Speaker 2: it out, have to think about it for to get
Speaker 2: into the world. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's that weird loll too, where you're like, yeah,
Speaker 5: so excited, so excited, and then it happens, and we
Speaker 5: all called each other that day and we're like, are
Speaker 5: we depressed or are we just having an anxiety attack? Like
Speaker 5: what does this mean?
Speaker 3: Because it's done totally, You're done, and your waiting this
Speaker 3: thing you've spent so much time on with these people.
Speaker 5: I can't imagine.
Speaker 4: I imagine for y'all too, Like that was probably weird
Speaker 4: for season one of Glee too, or like any project
Speaker 4: you're doing, like you do it and then you're kind
Speaker 4: of waiting and you're like, well.
Speaker 2: It's different. I feel like podcasting is sort of more
Speaker 2: comparable to music or like what you did? You create
Speaker 2: this entire six episode thing and then you put it
Speaker 2: out and like when you put on an album or
Speaker 2: song or something like, like it feels like you just
Speaker 2: press a button and then you just sit there, like
Speaker 2: there's no confetti cannons going off, there's you know, it's
Speaker 2: like it feels climactic in a way. That's true because
Speaker 2: then you wait, you have to wait for people for
Speaker 2: it to reach people, and like all the people who
Speaker 2: spend their time leaving comments or getting on your social media,
Speaker 2: like that's the only way we hear about it, like
Speaker 2: hear how this is impacting people. So what a funny.
Speaker 4: Digital world because to kind of go to those reviews
Speaker 4: and you look there.
Speaker 5: Like anything you're doing, You're going, how do.
Speaker 4: People perceive this? Yeah, and you kind of have to
Speaker 4: trust in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that a situation perceiving this? Is it reaching people?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: We don't know a big part of it.
Speaker 5: You're just kind of hoping and waiting and like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean we know it's good. That's the important part.
Speaker 4: And I always want to think too, like ash Ash
Speaker 4: Lindsay and Jaqueline Hills for kind of.
Speaker 5: Trusting me with this, like this idea to take it
Speaker 5: into a different realm.
Speaker 4: Because I don't know, discussing with other actors too, and
Speaker 4: just creatives in general, like the pivot moment where like
Speaker 4: you have an idea of something and you can't hold
Speaker 4: onto it too lately because you just kind of have
Speaker 4: to let things be and allowing somebody like myself to
Speaker 4: come in and be like, let's pivot to a whole
Speaker 4: different genre and something that like probably nobody's created like
Speaker 4: this before well for quite some time.
Speaker 5: I mean it took almost like one hundred years for
Speaker 5: us to get back to this moment. People who listening
Speaker 5: to these.
Speaker 4: Long ago Yeah, and it worked then, why can't it
Speaker 4: work now? And so I'm always grateful that they just
Speaker 4: took that leap with me and just kind of trusted me.
Speaker 5: And then more so.
Speaker 4: Even like the whole team, like the actors who have
Speaker 4: come on board who love it and think it's funny,
Speaker 4: and listeners like you who think it's funny, Like just
Speaker 4: trust people trusting you.
Speaker 5: I think it's like scary, but it feels really good.
Speaker 3: It's huge.
Speaker 2: It's just so cool and you don't know unless you
Speaker 2: do it. And like the fact that you can be
Speaker 2: malleable and not you know, your plans and your ideas
Speaker 2: are not setting stone and you can just sort of
Speaker 2: pivot a whole different medium.
Speaker 4: And and sometimes it hurts you too, like especially your ego,
Speaker 4: because you tell a million people about it and everybody
Speaker 4: says it's cool, and then you're trying to pitch it
Speaker 4: and you're in these meetings with these companies and they
Speaker 4: love the idea and you're like, okay, now can we
Speaker 4: start it and they're like.
Speaker 2: Mmm, yeah yeah, and you're like.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I guess I have to take matters into
Speaker 4: my own hands and do it myself that amen.
Speaker 2: But that's what always happens, you know. And then you look,
Speaker 2: you look back in five years and you go, oh,
Speaker 2: if I didn't pivot and take matters in my own hands,
Speaker 2: I would never be where I am now never. And
Speaker 2: that's what you got to get shit done. Can't wait
Speaker 2: on other people.
Speaker 5: You cannot. Kind of the biggest life lesson.
Speaker 2: That's right. Proud of you always, Hemo, we love you, Hemo,
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