WEBVTT - What You Cannot Miss with Heather Morris 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.479 And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.200 And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:13.440 Welcome to and that's what you really missed a Gleaking 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:15.000 news episode. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:22.479 Clicking note. We have Heather Morris on today because she 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.720 has something very exciting that she has just put out 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.000 into the world. And it's not a child, She's got 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:29.520 two of those. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.040 It's a creative child. And now she's got two seasons 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:32.720 of a podcast. 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.080 Yes, that's right. So without further ado, let's talk to 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.479 the one and only Heather Morris. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.239 Welcome back, Thank you. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:47.559 This is some big Glee family news. Heather's back because 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:53.199 she has an incredible project to talk about. We're very, 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.120 very very excited to talk about it with her because 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:59.080 she's brilliant and smart and a producer and a creator 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:04.680 and a writer the actress. We're talking about her very 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:09.759 successful scripted podcast, The Bystanders. That's season two is out now. 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.440 Season two. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.800 Those congrats, Thank you so much. 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.880 I brought even more of the Glee gang back together 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:20.400 because we all love it. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.039 Jay Lynch and Darren Chris hopped on board. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.280 We made got a lot such a fun, weird zany 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.560 storyline this season two. I mean we took it, you know, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.560 pretty zany season one, but season two it's a lot 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.520 of fun, a lot of weirdness, and so Darren Chris 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.240 of course was like, well, yeah. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.600 I'm going to play it. I'm going to play this. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.200 Of course, weird is the quicker one of us will 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.040 say yes, precisely, yeah, you know that about us. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:52.880 It was not weird. I don't like it. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.120 It feels like yesterday that we were talking about you 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.360 were like calling me to ask me about some like 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.760 logistics and things, and you were like, how do I 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.120 get these people to do this? Genuinely and like I'm 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.440 just getting this off the ground. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.880 I called her and I was like, I need your help. 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:14.679 Your a Tony Award winning human being who's produced other productions. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.520 Tell me everything you know about this. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.240 I mean not podcasting in general, but like you have 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.880 a lot of knowledge about how to just get shit done. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:26.240 Oh that's kind, it's true, that's kind. To be fair, 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.239 this is not my world though, and so I was like, 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:29.600 I don't know howmon Dragon Home. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:29.960 But you did it. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.840 You didn't do it, and here you are, and I'm 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:32.480 so proud of you. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:33.519 Thank you so much. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.200 This is really exciting. So season one was really fun. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.959 You had some glead people, you had Hitchcock and Kristin 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.440 channel with and that was like your first go at it. 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.920 Not bad, not too shabby, not too shabby. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.639 Tell us about season two, when did it come about, 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.480 and like what was your feelings about, like going into 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.160 it having done a season already, like under your belt. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:03.160 Yeah, So, I mean season one was basically when I 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.600 was approa well on approach, but when I was like 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.440 shooting the shit with Ash Lindsay and Jaqueline Hales and 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.840 discussing this first season it was supposed to be like 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.000 a TV show on a movie, and I basically said 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:16.679 to them like, hey, listen, I really want to turn 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:17.799 this into a podcast. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.720 Have you listened to a scripted podcast? 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:20.000 You know? 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:20.919 I love this world. 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:22.959 It's this whole new genre and I think this could 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.960 really fit well there. And so, I mean, obviously we 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.920 know a lot about that first season. If you haven't 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.720 listened to it, I implore you to go listen to it. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:32.519 It's so incredible. 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.920 It's like this nineteen thirties radio drama. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.240 Yeah, it's like listening to a play so cool. 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.560 It's like going back to the time of just radio, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:42.680 you know, like. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.280 We have this cool musical score because a lot of 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.040 these podcasts you listen to, I mean they're wonderful actors 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:52.119 and a great cast, and not as great as sound 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.080 engineer as us. We have a great team Alex Carter 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.760 and Tim McEwan who produced this, but yeah, I mean 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.800 there's just so much fun and richness in this and 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.400 I think we just took it to that next level. So, 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.520 you know, season two, we just had a bigger budget 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.440 and I jumped on board as a writer this season, 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.160 and so it was, Yeah, so I got to my 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.960 first hand at like long form writing, because I've only 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.880 done like short films and like small little skits, but 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.080 never have I taken it this far. So Ash lindsay 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.040 and Jacqueline Halls, who are the creators and writers and 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.560 directors and all those cool things, definitely navigated us through that. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.960 And that was a challenge and also really fun. And 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.279 just like I learned a lot about show running, which 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.040 is kind of an upper. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.440 Hand for females because there's not a lot of female showrunners. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.080 So it was really great for all of us just. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.080 To learn that that whole world and just like learn 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.919 writing and like basically just shoved a bunch of knowledge 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.320 down our throats and we learned a lot of hard lessons, 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.480 but you know, we just were so blessed with like casting, 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.880 Like we got a cad casting director Rodriguez and Schwab 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:10.800 who you know, work under our dear friends, and so yeah, 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:11.400 that was really cool. 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.560 Yeah, let's talk about casting for a second, because this 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.719 cast is insane, absolutely. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:16.440 Like the first one. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:22.719 Kathleen the hell y'all, Kathleen Turner? 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:27.600 What's interesting about that name? 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:32.520 That was like to us, she is a legend, She's 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:33.080 an icon. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.320 She's an icon, and like for all of us writers 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.280 and creators, we're just like, I mean. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.280 The guests, the get of the guests, and then you 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.120 go to like the REGs humans of the world. Like 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.800 I would say, my husband is like, you know, he 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.040 loves art, but he's not like he's not a performer. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.640 So I'm talking about Kathleen Turner and he's like, I 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.640 have no idea what you're talking about. 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:01.120 And I said, I said, Chandler's mom and friends. 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:05.360 Yes, yeah, yes, Chandler's mom and friends. I'm like, that's 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:06.240 all you need to know. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.360 The identify it. Yes, so true. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.839 Oh, Chandler's dad, I should say it was Chandler's. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.240 Dad, right, right, even better. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.080 But then you've got Margaret Chow and and then we've 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.840 got Luke Cook, who's like just so funny and I 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.000 knew him from like training mate back in the day. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:24.080 It's just still wild. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.240 Oh but right. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.480 But then we have our Wayne Night. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:30.800 I mean way auditioned. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:32.400 What newman? 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.880 We got Newman to send in a tape. We doesn't 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.000 even ask for him. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.080 We just got our you know, we got our producer's tapes, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.159 which these actors get the sides, and he was one 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:45.080 of them. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.920 Wow, yes, the answer is, yes, you're hired. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:50.320 We'll create a job for you. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:51.560 I don't know what it is. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:53.720 That's really awesome. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.280 We were so lucky with this this cast. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.000 I was just talking to Luke Cook and I was like, 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.680 I mean, you say you auditioned, but you were our 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.200 first choice for this role, and the fact that you 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.520 sent it in and you nailed it, Like, how lucky 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:08.400 are we that we. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:09.679 Got you for this job? 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:14.280 And so many I mean, the whole cast was just truly, 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.400 truly so cool. Like we got to go in studio 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.920 with Darren Chris and Wayne Knight. They were the only 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.440 ones that we went in studio to listen to and 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.000 I sat in the back corner with Wayne Knight. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:27.800 And even Darren Chris. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.080 I mean, Darren Criffs was just so funny watched, but 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:34.920 like Wayne Knight, I was very ya. 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.600 Star strap for Tremblin in the band and how exciting 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.880 to to like get to create this thing that you 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.760 got to write on and then like hav them all 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.560 these legends, like play with the words that all of 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.240 you put together. You put this team together, right team effort, 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.360 Like how did that feel? Coming off of like season one? 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.160 You went very quickly from like asking Jenna, how do 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:00.200 I do this? To scoring these gigantic people to be 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:01.560 like a bigger budget. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.000 To texting season one. 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.360 I just I got numbers from people and I just 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.200 texted them and said, hey, will you do this project? 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.720 And it was COVID and everybody's. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.480 What happened to you? People? Let it be a lesson. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.320 Everyone likes Heather, Well, thank you so much. Good people. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.760 Yeah, there might be people in my past lives that 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.280 could say differently based on the mindset at the time. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.160 That's fair. I feel the same. Yeah, I know the 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:25.640 same boat. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.720 And then of course you have like your your friends, cast, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:30.240 your friends. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.480 I mean, I still even texted Jane and I said, hey, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.800 do you want to do this? We got Kathleen Turner. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:35.960 Does that sell it for you? 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:39.080 And Jane? 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.439 It's just so incredible. She just is down to do whatever. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.280 I was listening to you this morning and I it 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:50.760 made me think of sorry for the Glee reference, but 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.600 when she was the Grinch and she's like talking through 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.079 that whole thing, like she's using like the same voice, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:58.960 and I realized, it's like Sue's journals. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.200 It is no it is full Sue's journals. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.720 And it makes me feel like so comforted, like hearing 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.840 her voice, I know, talk you through this entire like 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.720 who done it? Crazy weird mystery. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.240 There's nobody more perfect. And I think the best sell 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:21.080 too was in a usual who Done It? Especially in 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.199 the thirties and forties, it was mostly narrated by a male, 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.520 and it was not hard to pitch to Jane and say, listen, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.680 we're a female, we're a female creative team, and we 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:36.040 want this to be a female narrating this show that 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.360 would generally be a male, and we want your iconic 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.760 voice to be the voice for it. And it was 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.920 a no brainer and there's a bunch of like random 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.839 ass Joe Pesci jokes where we basically make fun of 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.480 Joe Peshi the whole time, and she loved that. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.920 So we got to you love that. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:52.480 We love that. 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.120 I'm a sucker for who'd done it. So this is 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:55.280 very satisfying for me. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:56.560 It is very satisfying. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.960 Are you a true crime like junkie or was this 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.800 something that came like another way? 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.559 Well, see, I can't do the podcast true crime because 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:20.840 I get too I get too anxious in life. And yeah, 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.680 even at one point Taylor came to me, our male 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.720 lady like I was a male man at the time, 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.000 skipped our house and it happened a couple of days 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.240 in a row, and my husband came to me and 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:31.040 he got well Taylor. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:32.720 Taylor was like, do. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.240 You think he's like a child sex offender? That's why 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.400 he doesn't come to our house? And I was like, Taylor, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.520 how many is how many podcasts true crime podcasts have 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.360 you listened to? It was like, yeah, maybe I should stop. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:45.200 So anyways, I. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:53.400 Do really love dark humor and dark comedy and I 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.720 watch a lot of Law and Order SVU. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.839 Oh yeah, okay, okay, So that's it. That's what it is. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:02.600 I just get it. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:03.040 I get it. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.040 Yeah, I hear that, but I'm just fascinated. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.000 Do you watch like me the Knives Out series and 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:09.920 like those types of yes. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.200 I love the Boys. The Boys isn't really true crime, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:15.199 but there's still. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.520 Like a yeah, you know something. 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.720 There's it's the weird ship in there, and that's like 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.360 you're laughing at people getting blown up, and you're like. 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:25.280 Why am I laughing? 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.880 Absolutely well, if there's something wrong with that with you 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.199 and and all of this, there's something wrong with America 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.520 and the way that we we enjoyed just dark comedy, 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:39.440 because the like attack and for the first episode of 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:43.440 season two is also hilarious, like. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.280 This everybody talking anyway. I don't want to spoil what 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:51.080 happens in this, I know, but it's so funny. And 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.600 also you're like, oh, this is terrifying. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.840 I just actually listened to season one. And so Season 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:01.559 one of the Bystanders podcast is loosely based on the 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:06.400 Kitty Jenevezy story, which is the whole Bystanders psychological phenomenon 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.440 that studied about, you know, a woman who basically gets 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.000 attacked in her apartment complex and there's like a bunch 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.720 of people who witness it and they don't do anything. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.520 And it had a lot more so to do with 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.600 at the time, she was a gay woman, and you know, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.880 they they didn't want to get involved or whatever those 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:22.760 excuses were. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.000 And so that I just listened to that. And I 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:26.920 remember when we. 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.600 Were when we were going through the audio portion of 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.160 it and and and deciding what we needed to cut 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.680 and what we what we wanted to keep, and we 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.680 kept going like this is this too much stabbing? Like 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.960 is there too much for the listener? You know, like 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.800 in your ears? Is that like a reason to shut off? 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.280 And it's the same with season two. It's like, you know, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.319 they every episode, every episode one, we start out with 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:55.520 like the the emergency situation, How are these bystanders going 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:56.439 to respond to this? 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.319 How are they going to help? How are they not 0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:58.920 going to help? 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.600 And so you do get that same exact situation in 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.360 season two where a man is basically asking for help, 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:12.560 and to their best ability, these people are not, you know, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:18.080 they're making excuses after excuses, which is interesting. When we 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.240 went into the writing process of it, we were like, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.120 how do we not shame these people? You know, like 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.880 how do you how do you make people not feel 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.880 ashamed of this? And so you'll find later on like 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:36.079 these people are learning lessons about life and how they 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.960 can take away from, like, you know, what they didn't 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:40.600 do or how they can move forward with that. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.000 During that writing process, are you all also sharing how 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.199 you might react or how you have reacted and sort 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.960 of where you have been the actual bystander in real 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:51.760 life to things. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.120 Yeah, we definitely sat there and talked about it. We 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.520 were like, what have you done? What have you not done? 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.760 Why did you make an excuse? Because you have to 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.560 get into the headspace of these cares, right you have 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.160 to figure out like where they're coming from. So you 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.120 establish these characters right away, their point of view, why 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.400 they would say no, like we have a lawyer, you know, 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.480 Like we have a lawyer on there who doesn't want 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.360 to get sued. She doesn't want her husband to get sued. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.880 There's just so many different situations. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:17.080 You know. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.680 They're they're in water, one of them can't swim, and 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.520 so there's reality to it, you know. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.720 Like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.360 It's like different motives, different way. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.160 It's like when when people talk about like oh, somebody 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.120 gets really scared, somebody pops out and scares you, and 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.960 you're in the situation where some people are like. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.600 I would run and hide, I. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.080 Would punch them in the phase, or I would freeze, 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.800 like you to freeze. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:47.800 Yep, yeah, exactly exactly. You mentioned a sound mixing earlier, 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.760 and I have to say that is the first thing 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:58.720 I noticed from the onset of starting season two. It 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.640 sounds and credible, like you're immediately and I've listened to others, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.280 like other scripted podcasts before, and like you said, great actors, 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.240 great writing, They're great. However, and you have it in 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:14.000 the actual description of the episodes to wear headphones if possible, right, 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.840 And I love that you put that in there because 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:22.280 it is an entire like sound, an entire environment. Because 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.000 I started listening to it on my phone and I 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.600 saw that and I was like, no, no, no, I have 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.280 to this Justice, and I put on my headphones. I 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:33.600 was like, oh my god, it's like it's crazy. There 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.200 is something happening and all the time where you feel 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.600 like I'm like I'm on the boat. I'm I'm I'm 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.320 on the water right now. Literally, yes, and it. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.000 Is Kevin, Thank you so much for selling that you 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:46.640 just sold. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.520 That's the truth. No, it's gone away by it. How 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.240 important was that going into this, Like was that like 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:57.800 several discussions that you had about, you know, creating this environment. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:58.360 Absolutely? 0:15:58.440 --> 0:15:58.680 Yeah. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.840 And we worked with with Alex Carter, who did the 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.240 audio engineering in season one, and he basically came to 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.760 us in season two and he said, we have the 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.760 opportunity to go to a Dolby. 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.160 Atmost studio where we can. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.760 Go and mix this in a way that will make 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:22.480 the experience just level up a million times, like Mario 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.600 got the fireballs level up, you know what I mean, 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:27.840 hopefully people get that. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:35.120 Reference, but seriously like so, and we were lucky enough 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.359 to get to experience. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.320 That with with with the whole team. We all flew 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.840 out to Nashville and we went to a Dolby Atmost 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.320 mixing studio and there are speed you get into this 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:52.000 room that is just filled. They basically just like designed 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:56.840 this soundscape where there's like no sound bouncing off the walls, 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.040 so you're only hearing the sound you know that's coming 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:00.680 from the speakers. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.639 It's purest form and so you have speakers all around you. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.399 I kind of posted some of it on my Instagram, 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.600 And so we got to direct these episodes in that 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.240 studio for a week straight. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.120 We got to sit in there and listen bit by 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.880 bit and like kind of. 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.119 Hash out like where is this person coming from the 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:21.840 doors at the front of the room. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:23.680 They're heading towards the back of the room. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:28.040 Those are things as a creative that I have goosebumps, 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:28.879 like it gets. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.280 It got me so excited. 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.639 Yeah, I was in that seat every day, Like how 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.119 lucky am I that I get to sit here and 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.080 create the soundscape for people to listen to. 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.160 That's really cool, fulfilling thing that you probably also didn't 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.080 expect coming into this whole adventure. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.800 Probably the I least expected that one the most for sure, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.080 Like I was like, Oh, we're going to get a 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.680 cool cast this season, and the budget's going to be bigger, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.320 we get to do some campaigns. But no, it was 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.280 sitting in that room and listening to that and just 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:03.600 going wow, Like they played some Prince music for us 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.639 and we got to listen to that in three D. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.760 It just was like it was a pinchre moment for us. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.560 So and we have a wonderful musical score from Tory 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.320 Cummins as well. Who just just made it feel like 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:18.520 you were in a play. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.840 Yeah, it's a full play, it's a full movie. Yeah, 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:23.199 it is. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:27.800 So so cool, elevated, elevated. Does it make you want 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.840 to create more things like this? 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.120 Absolutely? It does. 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.320 I mean this is visual, right, Like, this will be 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.399 a visual and this will be something that you see 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:43.240 and just every time I listen to it, I can 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.480 picture you know, what it's going to look like. And 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.040 that's the fun of podcasts. It's like reading a book. 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.800 You know, you're you're basically deciding what it's going to 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:52.439 be and what it's. 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:52.840 Going to look like. 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.159 Yeah, your immation is instantly activated. 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.359 Absolutely, and so you're kind of like your own director 0:18:58.400 --> 0:18:59.800 in a way when you're listening to it. And so 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.239 the way I envision it and I see it, I 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.720 just can't wait to see this go visual and who 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:06.440 will bring it to life alongside with us? 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:12.240 So that that's the plan, that's the plan. Great? Yeah, Yeah. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:16.000 Luke Cook, just a moment ago was like, so, so 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.240 who's going to pick this up? And can I be 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.879 in it? 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:20.199 Like? 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.080 Absolutely, he would say, of course. I'm sure everyone had 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:27.000 such a good time working with your entire team. They're like, yeah, 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.520 when this goes, you need us. We have to be 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.080