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Speaker 3: Welcome to and that's what you really missed a Gleaking

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Speaker 2: Clicking note. We have Heather Morris on today because she

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Speaker 1: It's a creative child. And now she's got two seasons

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. So without further ado, let's talk to

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: This is some big Glee family news. Heather's back because

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Speaker 2: successful scripted podcast, The Bystanders. That's season two is out now.

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Speaker 3: Season two.

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Speaker 1: Those congrats, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: I brought even more of the Glee gang back together

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Speaker 5: Jay Lynch and Darren Chris hopped on board.

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Speaker 4: We made got a lot such a fun, weird zany

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Speaker 2: Of course, weird is the quicker one of us will

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Speaker 5: It was not weird. I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: It feels like yesterday that we were talking about you

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Speaker 5: I called her and I was like, I need your help.

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Speaker 4: Your a Tony Award winning human being who's produced other productions.

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Speaker 5: Tell me everything you know about this.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's kind, it's true, that's kind. To be fair,

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Speaker 3: this is not my world though, and so I was like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there might be people in my past lives that

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Speaker 2: That's the truth. No, it's gone away by it. How

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the stakes are I mean they're high for you,

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Speaker 5: We're professionals, so it wasn't like we're all just knew

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Speaker 2: Sure, and they.

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Speaker 5: Keep telling us podcast world is the wild wild West,

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Speaker 4: Why keep treating it like it? You know, we're really

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Speaker 2: And like that was.

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Speaker 4: making for fun, and it's like here it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's like heart and passion in it, yes,

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Speaker 3: but exactly like people deserve to be paid for their

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Speaker 3: work and their service and their time.

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Speaker 1: It's why the strike is happening. Is like, yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's fairness, and just because art is so kind of

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Speaker 1: out there and can be wild Westy doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: it should be free and that people aren't giving time,

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Speaker 1: the time and their whole selves to it.

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Speaker 5: Sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, g Entertainment just doesn't show up out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: It takes a lot of hours from a lot of

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Speaker 2: people who have a lot going on in their lives

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Speaker 2: and they put their talent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: Where can people listen to this podcast? Heather Well?

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Speaker 4: The podcast is available on Apple Podcasts as well as

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Speaker 4: on our website, The Buysingers podcast dot com.

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Speaker 5: Both of those are they are available up there.

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Speaker 4: I believe season one is free and then season two

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Speaker 4: is now a subscription.

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Speaker 2: Great episodes.

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Speaker 5: All episodes of season two are out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have a social as well, right, you

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Speaker 1: have a Bystanders.

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Speaker 4: Bystanders podcast, the The Underscore Bystanders Underscore podcast on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Okay, amazing, I know it's so good.

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Speaker 1: Creator, I can't writer producer Heather Morris.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, Oh my god, thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Moul in my mind.

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Speaker 1: No, we say we're proclaiming for you.

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Speaker 3: So there you have it.

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Speaker 2: We're together right here, right now.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to the to the Lady Crew, because you know what,

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Speaker 3: women rock and you guys are so talented and people

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Speaker 3: need to hear all of the art that.

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Speaker 2: You guys make, so always and forever, we love you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, so proud with you guys. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for sharing your creativity with the world.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: We need it. You're brilliant, are you guys?

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Speaker 3: Have you guys been done for a minute or have

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Speaker 3: you guys been like hitting the pavement hard?

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Speaker 4: We know, we basically got done. We finished. We finished

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Speaker 4: like a rough editing before we went to Nashville, but

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Speaker 4: Nashville was like two weeks before we were releasing.

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Speaker 2: Wow, oh wow fast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were still giving notes like five days before

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Speaker 4: we we the put the podcast up.

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Speaker 2: Amazing da. I love that though, because then you don't

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Speaker 2: have to sit on this thing and anticipate, like wait,

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Speaker 2: all the anticipation. It's just out. You created it, put

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Speaker 2: it out, have to think about it for to get

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Speaker 2: into the world. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's that weird loll too, where you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: so excited, so excited, and then it happens, and we

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Speaker 5: all called each other that day and we're like, are

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Speaker 5: we depressed or are we just having an anxiety attack? Like

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Speaker 5: what does this mean?

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Speaker 3: Because it's done totally, You're done, and your waiting this

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Speaker 3: thing you've spent so much time on with these people.

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Speaker 5: I can't imagine.

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Speaker 4: I imagine for y'all too, Like that was probably weird

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Speaker 4: for season one of Glee too, or like any project

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Speaker 4: you're doing, like you do it and then you're kind

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Speaker 4: of waiting and you're like, well.

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Speaker 2: It's different. I feel like podcasting is sort of more

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Speaker 2: comparable to music or like what you did? You create

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Speaker 2: this entire six episode thing and then you put it

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Speaker 2: out and like when you put on an album or

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Speaker 2: song or something like, like it feels like you just

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Speaker 2: press a button and then you just sit there, like

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Speaker 2: there's no confetti cannons going off, there's you know, it's

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Speaker 2: like it feels climactic in a way. That's true because

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Speaker 2: then you wait, you have to wait for people for

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Speaker 2: it to reach people, and like all the people who

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Speaker 2: spend their time leaving comments or getting on your social media,

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Speaker 2: like that's the only way we hear about it, like

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Speaker 2: hear how this is impacting people. So what a funny.

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Speaker 4: Digital world because to kind of go to those reviews

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Speaker 4: and you look there.

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Speaker 5: Like anything you're doing, You're going, how do.

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Speaker 4: People perceive this? Yeah, and you kind of have to

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Speaker 4: trust in that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that a situation perceiving this? Is it reaching people?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: We don't know a big part of it.

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Speaker 5: You're just kind of hoping and waiting and like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean we know it's good. That's the important part.

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Speaker 4: And I always want to think too, like ash Ash

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Speaker 4: Lindsay and Jaqueline Hills for kind of.

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Speaker 5: Trusting me with this, like this idea to take it

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Speaker 5: into a different realm.

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Speaker 4: Because I don't know, discussing with other actors too, and

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Speaker 4: just creatives in general, like the pivot moment where like

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Speaker 4: you have an idea of something and you can't hold

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Speaker 4: onto it too lately because you just kind of have

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Speaker 4: to let things be and allowing somebody like myself to

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Speaker 4: come in and be like, let's pivot to a whole

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Speaker 4: different genre and something that like probably nobody's created like

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Speaker 4: this before well for quite some time.

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Speaker 5: I mean it took almost like one hundred years for

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Speaker 5: us to get back to this moment. People who listening

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Speaker 5: to these.

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Speaker 4: Long ago Yeah, and it worked then, why can't it

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Speaker 4: work now? And so I'm always grateful that they just

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Speaker 4: took that leap with me and just kind of trusted me.

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Speaker 5: And then more so.

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Speaker 4: Even like the whole team, like the actors who have

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Speaker 4: come on board who love it and think it's funny,

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Speaker 4: and listeners like you who think it's funny, Like just

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Speaker 4: trust people trusting you.

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Speaker 5: I think it's like scary, but it feels really good.

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Speaker 3: It's huge.

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Speaker 2: It's just so cool and you don't know unless you

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Speaker 2: do it. And like the fact that you can be

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Speaker 2: malleable and not you know, your plans and your ideas

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Speaker 2: are not setting stone and you can just sort of

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Speaker 2: pivot a whole different medium.

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Speaker 4: And and sometimes it hurts you too, like especially your ego,

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Speaker 4: because you tell a million people about it and everybody

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Speaker 4: says it's cool, and then you're trying to pitch it

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Speaker 4: and you're in these meetings with these companies and they

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Speaker 4: love the idea and you're like, okay, now can we

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Speaker 4: start it and they're like.

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Speaker 2: Mmm, yeah yeah, and you're like.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, I guess I have to take matters into

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Speaker 4: my own hands and do it myself that amen.

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Speaker 2: But that's what always happens, you know. And then you look,

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Speaker 2: you look back in five years and you go, oh,

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Speaker 2: if I didn't pivot and take matters in my own hands,

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Speaker 2: I would never be where I am now never. And

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Speaker 2: that's what you got to get shit done. Can't wait

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Speaker 2: on other people.

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Speaker 5: You cannot. Kind of the biggest life lesson.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Proud of you always, Hemo, we love you, Hemo,

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Speaker 2: I love you guys. Everyone, Go subscribe to season two.

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Speaker 5: Season two The Buy Singer's Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Margaret Chow, Kathleen Turner, Jane Lynch, Joelo Trulio, Myla Man

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Speaker 4: is raising the Chipotle like coming.

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Speaker 2: Go get perfect, perfect timing. We love you, Love you,

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Speaker 2: love you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks of course, bye bye bye. Well, everybody who loves

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Speaker 3: and knows Heather Morris and Brittany S. Pierce, go tell

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Speaker 3: your friends who don't know and should know Heather Morris

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Speaker 3: and the Bystanders Podcast. It's just fun to see your

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Speaker 3: through their website. It's so good and it's so fun,

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Speaker 3: and there are some incredible people on it. So do

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Speaker 3: yourselves a favor and go listen to Bystanders Season two.

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