Speaker 1: But here's where it gets interested with our sisters.
Speaker 2: It's kind of the opposite sometimes, where the father needs
Speaker 2: the son to succeed because he didn't, the mother wants
Speaker 2: the daughter to fail because she didn't win. The teachers
Speaker 2: pay more attention to the children in the class who
Speaker 2: are lighter, and so you could go in.
Speaker 1: Some school, hold on, say that again.
Speaker 2: Teachers pay more attention to the children in their classroom unconsciously.
Speaker 1: Who are lighter. The darker kids get less attention. A
Speaker 1: white person can't give you five million dollar, say doctor
Speaker 1: mar Been a fan of use is twenty twelve. I
Speaker 1: see what you got going on? Go get that school,
Speaker 1: white man, I'm talking about whitest other white. I don't
Speaker 1: think I could take it. I can appreciate him to BBL. No,
Speaker 1: I can't. And I'm gonna tell you why it don't bounce.
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about the chief boy, see you talking
Speaker 1: about the chief BNBL doctors and how you know it
Speaker 1: don't ours? First of all, how dare you know it
Speaker 1: don't bounce?
Speaker 3: King?
Speaker 1: Call Kanye Lady, listen to me. Sisters, please don't do it.
Speaker 1: It looks hold on now we got a shirt? Oh
Speaker 1: whoa hold No, we got two different No, it looked
Speaker 1: good in the clothes, and it might even look good
Speaker 1: out of the clothes, but it does not move organically.
Speaker 1: I ham saw you with Sunki though sentences right, So
Speaker 1: shout out to my sister Suka, shout out six and Red.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk down all y'all. I'm talking about all y'all.
Speaker 1: I saw you with Sunki. Ar Yes, sister Suki and.
Speaker 3: I their podcast live show is like. It was real
Speaker 3: cool and the host he was asking a lot of
Speaker 3: like good questions for like, he was giving a lot
Speaker 3: of pushing back for to give his more you know
Speaker 3: more what he had to say about the topics he had.
Speaker 4: My experience of that It's Up their live podcast show
Speaker 4: was amazing. I came because I met Loon. That's the
Speaker 4: time you have a show. I definitely will be in attendance,
Speaker 4: and I was. I have my own podcast, so I'm
Speaker 4: definitely learning a lot from this man. King is giving
Speaker 4: me gems every time I see him. I really enjoyed
Speaker 4: that It's Up their podcast live show. I learned a lot.
Speaker 4: It's Up.
Speaker 1: Their live podcast show was amazing.
Speaker 4: It was a good time and always information and the
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Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 5: It's Up their Lives podcast was phenomenal, nearly a platform
Speaker 5: that I am so glad to be a part of.
Speaker 5: It was definitely enlightening and motivating and empowering.
Speaker 1: Oh it was awesome. I am so glad. I had
Speaker 1: so many other things going on today, but I beat
Speaker 1: it important. It was very important to me. It was
Speaker 1: also important for me to bring my grandson or share
Speaker 1: with everybody I know. Disrespectful mes turn up in my content.
Speaker 1: This is a show that I'm having. So ye we're brother, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we real tight. So this is right. So disrespectful means
Speaker 1: turn up in my show, and I shouldn't have stopped,
Speaker 1: but I want to address that. Continue. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: believe that I would sit here. Part of my mission
Speaker 1: is to raise the consciousness, and the voice is the
Speaker 1: greatest weapon to do that. I was never taught how
Speaker 1: to speak. In fourth grade Black history class, there was
Speaker 1: an oratorical contest North Philly from Bill Cosby's neighborhood, and
Speaker 1: I got into the public speaking contest at one first place,
Speaker 1: and I just never shut up. I was born to speak.
Speaker 1: I'm related to Frederick Douglas. He was a great orator.
Speaker 1: It runs in my family. It's why I'm here.
Speaker 2: If I love so my speaking is more of a
Speaker 2: ministry of black consciousness. It heals, and it helps, and
Speaker 2: it motivates and it transforms people.
Speaker 1: I believe that's part of why I'm here. But it's
Speaker 1: not the only reason I'm here. Because we've had great
Speaker 1: orators all throughout our history. But what we have to
Speaker 1: do is build institutions and leave a legacy. That's what
Speaker 1: we have to do. This speaking is good, but it's
Speaker 1: not gonna save us. The speaking is to get your
Speaker 1: attention so I can organize you for transformation. Okay, so
Speaker 1: do you I believe again, man, I don't know if you.
Speaker 1: I think you notice. I think you just you're in this.
Speaker 1: You get into this spot. Except that podcast is leading
Speaker 1: the culture conversation as well as having one of the
Speaker 1: highest consumption rated podcasts in all of America. What that
Speaker 1: means for your brand and for this opportunity is that
Speaker 1: not only are people watching the part nine times out
Speaker 1: of ten, that watching it all the way through. So
Speaker 1: if you have a brand and it needs to get
Speaker 1: in front of people, you need to send an email
Speaker 1: to this email that you see in this description. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, have your budget ready, be ready to invest
Speaker 1: in yourself, get your brand in front of the people,
Speaker 1: highly engaged audience. I have three tiers of audience. I
Speaker 1: have a Patreon audience that is all one hundred paid.
Speaker 1: And what that means is that these are verifiable pain
Speaker 1: customers that we can take you behind the paywall to them.
Speaker 1: We also can have you on our free channel on
Speaker 1: the audio live evist like. We have so many different opportunities.
Speaker 1: I bet the business got to be right.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be me if I just allowed anything to
Speaker 1: take place on this illustrious platform that we're building together.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to stop in for a minute. I
Speaker 1: don't want to take much of your time. But if
Speaker 1: you have a brand, a service, a product, reach out
Speaker 1: to this up that podcast, get that product in front
Speaker 1: of people, invest in yourself. All right, now, let's get
Speaker 1: back to the show. I believe again, man, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you I think you noticed. I think you
Speaker 1: just you're in this. You get into this spot right
Speaker 1: where you almost like you get in character, not that
Speaker 1: you're faking, but you get into this like spot where
Speaker 1: you just it's all about the mission. It's all about all.
Speaker 1: It's always about it. But I think I think you see,
Speaker 1: yeah see planning into it. See this is played into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so yeah yeah, this is played
Speaker 1: into it. Talk to anybody who know me. They don't
Speaker 1: tell you yet. No, I'm with you and I've been
Speaker 1: knowing you, so I know you won't it. It ain't
Speaker 1: it ain't that, but I do. I just noted fake
Speaker 1: with me. Nah, But I do think that there's room
Speaker 1: to discuss that. There's other things on your agenda that
Speaker 1: don't coincide with the mission one hundred. Again, we went
Speaker 1: to that, so I want to I want to move
Speaker 1: past that. Let's talk about your content creation. I was
Speaker 1: telling you backstage that you are one of the most
Speaker 1: visible people online. What do you do to keep your
Speaker 1: content valuable and not oversaturated? Uh? Nothing until the conversation
Speaker 1: we had.
Speaker 2: Now you're giving me things I need to think about
Speaker 2: based on our conversation we had earlier backstage. But to
Speaker 2: this point, I never looked at my content as a
Speaker 2: means to monetization or or money. Is purely to wake
Speaker 2: up our people, purely to give them an alternative view.
Speaker 2: It's purely to let them know that they're not crazy
Speaker 2: when they see things that isn't making sense. So it's
Speaker 2: been I never knew that I would be what I
Speaker 2: am on social media. I never heard it. I didn't
Speaker 2: even know what TikTok was. So people say you need
Speaker 2: to get on TikTok because you all over it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You know, I don't have a YouTube page, right,
Speaker 1: So I didn't know social media would respond to me
Speaker 1: the way that it has, especially given my views, which
Speaker 1: many people would consider it to be radical or controversial.
Speaker 1: So that was purely an act of God that I've
Speaker 1: been able to have that type of presence online standing
Speaker 1: for what I stand for. I never expected out in
Speaker 1: my wildest dreapes. And you know what I find interest
Speaker 1: in You came from a crop or a batch of
Speaker 1: conscious community where it was very strong. I said, Umar
Speaker 1: is probably one of the only ones that's been able
Speaker 1: to transcend that, and run of those guys kind of
Speaker 1: have faded a way. You still see the Candice ons,
Speaker 1: You're still seeing you, and I'm believe that's my way
Speaker 1: it stops at. Yeah, what do you contribute that too?
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 2: my expertise as a school psychologist. It's kind of hard
Speaker 2: to separate my impact from my profession, because if I
Speaker 2: was not a school psychologist, if I couldn't help parents
Speaker 2: help their children, if I.
Speaker 1: Couldn't value in, I couldn't diagnose, if I couldn't teach
Speaker 1: them about the medications, if I couldn't help them with
Speaker 1: the IEPs, if I couldn't review the psychological evaluations, what
Speaker 1: I be is relevant.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. Some people would say yes, some
Speaker 2: people would say no. It's no way to know, because
Speaker 2: I've never not been the school psychologists, you see, and
Speaker 2: so it's hard to separate the two, although I think
Speaker 2: presently though, I definitely think doctor Umartin Pan africanist is
Speaker 2: a much more popular person than doctor Ummartin's psychologists. But
Speaker 2: I think doctor umater psychologists is more valuable in that
Speaker 2: parents clearly see in me someone who can help them.
Speaker 1: And you know what I think it is, and this
Speaker 1: is old fashioned for anybody in content creating. It's like,
Speaker 1: literally add value whatever you're doing. And so I think
Speaker 1: what you really have in the background in understanding the
Speaker 1: medicines and understanding psychology, I think that value did set
Speaker 1: you apart because a lot of people was just talking.
Speaker 1: When you get into it eating but toy, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: get into meeting potatoes and you really understood. I remember
Speaker 1: used to walk around with the big DS DSM five
Speaker 1: book and so these kind of things I think made
Speaker 1: you kind of reign supreme. In regards to those those
Speaker 1: guys delayed there, it seemed like the talking just subsided,
Speaker 1: just kind of went wade you. I mean, the documentary
Speaker 1: era was a boom for y'all. Do y'all you still
Speaker 1: get paid for any of those things.
Speaker 2: Nah, I've never produced my own documentary and the ones
Speaker 2: that I was in, I never really made anything off
Speaker 2: of those.
Speaker 1: That's what I was talking to you back, utilizing your
Speaker 1: own packaging for you because your brain is so big,
Speaker 1: Like everyone knows you're one of the most popular black
Speaker 1: people in the world. But it's the packaging that's why
Speaker 1: people can come and package you and sell it. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: people can come and say, Yo, I'm gonna get Doctor
Speaker 1: Umah on my DVD and I'm gonna go get a bag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Doctor umar shouldn't be able to put that DVD
Speaker 1: together with that voice. And to your point, I definitely
Speaker 1: think I've lost out financially by being so giving. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I would not do anything different
Speaker 1: because I don't think we get that school built if
Speaker 1: people didn't know my heart was real.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would be as popular as I
Speaker 2: am globally if people didn't know my heart was real.
Speaker 2: So I don't regret any of it. You know, even
Speaker 2: now people say, hey, you gotta redirect your content on YouTube.
Speaker 2: You got about five different pages misrepresent themselves as you
Speaker 2: making money off of you, and we'll we will get
Speaker 2: to that. But at the same time, that's how people
Speaker 2: came to know who I want, by people posting the content.
Speaker 1: So so you gotta lose a little bit to get
Speaker 1: a little gotta lose, yeah, yes, just like Dion, Yes,
Speaker 1: that ain't got nothing to do. Let me do Amy
Speaker 1: doing Otter cut it out. Nah, But but I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just wrapped back around to that. But but seriously,
Speaker 1: you know you have to lose a little bit to
Speaker 1: get a little bit. And you were you were in
Speaker 1: content wars with a lot of guys. What was that
Speaker 1: eraror like for you? I had a beef every year
Speaker 1: round Christmas. We've always tried to pay the YouTube bill,
Speaker 1: try to get the YouTube check. That's what I didn't realize.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my supporter said, stop responding because if you notice,
Speaker 2: they always attack you around Christmas so they can get
Speaker 2: their views up and get that Christmas money.
Speaker 1: The body warn kids some white Jesus gifts.
Speaker 2: But it was always See when I came into the
Speaker 2: conscious community, right, I came unexpectedly.
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was about to blow. I just blew.
Speaker 1: I didn't know nothing about it.
Speaker 2: I thought I would just be a psychologist for the
Speaker 2: rest of my life doing my Pan Africanism. But I
Speaker 2: never knew I would become this right. So when I
Speaker 2: blew up, there were people who had they niches you had.
Speaker 2: People had the mental health niche, the black consciousness niche,
Speaker 2: the Pan African niche, the economics.
Speaker 1: Nitch and me I do them all. So a lot
Speaker 1: of people felt like I was stepping on they toes,
Speaker 1: especially the younger guys, and so they would attack me
Speaker 1: every Christmas. And because I'm king called consciousness, I had to,
Speaker 1: you know, beat my chest a little bit and let
Speaker 1: them know from the hood too, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But when do you stop that? Like cause? For me
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: And I realized they were doing it on purpose to
Speaker 2: make money. It wasn't even genuine beef. It was strategic beef.
Speaker 2: Get his response to get his listen, JA, now I
Speaker 2: don't I don't even respond.
Speaker 1: I know right now. Here's the thing. When you have
Speaker 1: a legitimate issue with someone like you do sometimes when
Speaker 1: you speak on things that's really near and dear, like
Speaker 1: this is what I'm seeing, right or wrong? This is
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing. People can frame that in that way.
Speaker 1: So how do we keep it from How do you
Speaker 1: keep it? How you keep the authenticity of Like when
Speaker 1: I say something about Shannon, it ain't the same thing
Speaker 1: that they was doing to me, right, It ain't that
Speaker 1: MESSI trying to steal the audience, trying to steal the
Speaker 1: visibility cloud Chase.
Speaker 2: It's very different because like when we spoke about Dion Sanders,
Speaker 2: I made it clear I respect him as a brother,
Speaker 2: you one of my greatest football players. When we spoke
Speaker 2: about Shannon, I said, I think Shannon is a good brother,
Speaker 2: a marvelous even being, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: my thing is I'm gonna still big you up as
Speaker 2: my brother. It just expressed my difference when they came
Speaker 2: at me at a conscious commit. They said he's a scammer.
Speaker 2: He's still in the fundraise of money. He triggering it
Speaker 2: off in Europe, South Africa, Nigeria.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Then they said I didn't have no degrees, right, he
Speaker 2: made up all the degrees. He ain't related to Frederick Douglas.
Speaker 2: I mean, anything you can think of. They were trying
Speaker 2: to assassinate my character cleanly.
Speaker 1: You know. So it's completely different. Do you Is there
Speaker 1: a worthy opponent out there? Not calling names, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: are there things for you to Yeah? I will respond
Speaker 1: to that, like.
Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody says something that I think needs
Speaker 2: to be clarified for my supporters and the school donors,
Speaker 2: that I clarify no matter where it comes.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, because it's the brand recognition and awareness
Speaker 1: that they temper with, right, they temper with what people
Speaker 1: know you for. And that's why I'm talking to you
Speaker 1: about this because for me being in the podcast space
Speaker 1: and moving so quick, I find myself in content wars.
Speaker 1: What people are like, yo, you dos ain't building none,
Speaker 1: ain't down no bus And watching as you say, I'm
Speaker 1: watching these shots coming, I'm saying, it's almost like I'm
Speaker 1: watching the authenticity melt. It's like these dudes don't know me,
Speaker 1: and they saying, what is what's happening? And I've came
Speaker 1: in and got rich from talking. Yes, So it's not
Speaker 1: something that's for debate. You know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: I'm building something the conversations I have people honestly enjoying
Speaker 1: this information base. Today we're kicking it, but it's information
Speaker 1: is out of every episode. I feel as though podcasts
Speaker 1: are almost like encyclopedias. You should be able to go
Speaker 1: and grab an episode at any moment and get something
Speaker 1: from that. I feel it's those things are transitioning. All
Speaker 1: information will live in some sort of audio form, right,
Speaker 1: and so I try to I'm racing to that. But
Speaker 1: when I see myself in content walls with dudes who
Speaker 1: ain't built anything, but they brand temporary. So it's almost
Speaker 1: like it's like them when do I When do I
Speaker 1: really just go? Or when do I just say this
Speaker 1: is let them talk? Keep I experience it is best
Speaker 1: to let it go. You gain nothing by going to
Speaker 1: war with a smaller fish. You gain nothing by going
Speaker 1: to war with a smaller fish. And I had to
Speaker 1: learn that what about a bigger fish? Because I got
Speaker 1: big fish at them, I gotten big fish. I'm going
Speaker 1: at it when I got well, let me let me
Speaker 1: rehold on because they'll take that and say I gave
Speaker 1: them props. So let me rephrase that I got people
Speaker 1: seasoned fish. I got seasoned fish. That that's after me.
Speaker 2: See, even if you got a seasoned fish, if you
Speaker 2: look at it from the art of war, what will
Speaker 2: this cost you in the long run is what you
Speaker 2: gotta look at because that season fish might want to
Speaker 2: go back and forth with you all the time, and
Speaker 2: you're not looking for a long term right beef. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but if you drop out too soon, it'll look like
Speaker 2: you cave to the marshals. So you have to do
Speaker 2: a thorough analysis of how long they gonna draw this out,
Speaker 2: how deep they gonna go with it, And do I
Speaker 2: even want to entertain it at all?
Speaker 1: I used to look at your lives and say I
Speaker 1: wonder to see I thought you was conscious, But see
Speaker 1: at the more I talked you, I know that you
Speaker 1: don't know the money that's floating. I don't. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: back there and telling you, like, yo, dude, you you
Speaker 1: know it's you got six seven pages. They doing a
Speaker 1: million and the day like this is thousands of dollars
Speaker 1: on the day. They yeah, port all the time and
Speaker 1: say you're leaving too much money on it. Yeah and
Speaker 1: so and so. When I look at you, at first
Speaker 1: I thought, I said, yo, these lives are like lost
Speaker 1: leaders for him, almost like at Costco's they they they
Speaker 1: keep the hot dog one p fifty even though they
Speaker 1: losing on the hot dog. It's like, I know when
Speaker 1: you come here, you're gonna get enough to want to
Speaker 1: see what's behind the current or in the rest of
Speaker 1: the store. And so at first I thought you were
Speaker 1: using those more like marketing. But when I talk to
Speaker 1: you and yeah, yeah, like Teas was like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: a little bit, come get it now. I never did
Speaker 1: it for the money. Man.
Speaker 2: Like even now when I go live, I gotta feel it.
Speaker 2: My lives ain't even scheduled. It's like you know what
Speaker 2: Eric and Minor caught our sister a blue monkey. Oh
Speaker 2: hell no, I was in Brussels, Belgium. I had to
Speaker 2: go live on that because that touched me.
Speaker 1: It is just thought about that. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: It speaks to the light skin supremacy complex that we
Speaker 2: still have in the black community, and by light skin supremacy.
Speaker 2: I don't mean light skinned people, because you could be
Speaker 2: a dark skinn light skin supremacy just a little more right.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I know dark skin purple blacks who don't want nobody
Speaker 2: around them except yellow people.
Speaker 1: You see that.
Speaker 2: So you could be a light skinned supremacist and not
Speaker 2: be light skin. So it's not about light skinned people.
Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with it. It's a consciousness, you see.
Speaker 2: And I thought it was wrong, it was bad. I'm
Speaker 2: glad they fired her for it. She apologized, but the
Speaker 2: apology to me seemed a little bit disingenuous and almost
Speaker 2: like a smack itself. It was kind of it was
Speaker 2: kind of a I didn't like the apology. I don't
Speaker 2: think it was humble at all. But that's the issue
Speaker 2: we got colorism. I think black women have it worse
Speaker 2: than black men within the queendom. So we as black men,
Speaker 2: we don't really look at each other's complexion when we
Speaker 2: hanging out, you feel me, We don't care brother brother, right.
Speaker 1: But with the.
Speaker 2: Sisters, I've noticed sisters will look at the complexion of
Speaker 2: the women in their circle, you see, and the women
Speaker 2: in the circle who may not be the complexion they
Speaker 2: want can feel that get away from us energy, and
Speaker 2: that can be a dark skin circle or a light
Speaker 2: skin circle, because even though light skin supremacy is more prevalent,
Speaker 2: you have dark skin supremacy who ate light skin people, right,
Speaker 2: So it goes both ways, although there's more light skin
Speaker 2: supremacy in dark skinned supremacy. And it's one of those evils,
Speaker 2: one of those psychological residuals from the plantation that I
Speaker 2: don't think we've really stepped on yet. And I don't
Speaker 2: think elders have really accepted the role they've played in
Speaker 2: the maintenance of skin color worship, because I still come
Speaker 2: across grandparents who make comments about dark skin. I've seen
Speaker 2: grandparents show favoritism even in my own family, to the
Speaker 2: darkers versus the lighters, or the lighters versus the darkest.
Speaker 2: I've seated, you know, I've seen how aunts and uncles
Speaker 2: will favor the light skin and the dark skin. I
Speaker 2: see it in the public schools, and of course the
Speaker 2: educational research shows us to teachers pay more attention to
Speaker 2: the children in the class who are lighter, and so
Speaker 2: you could you could go in some school, hold on
Speaker 2: say that again, teachers pay more attention to the children
Speaker 2: in their classroom unconsciously who are lighter.
Speaker 1: The darker kids get less attention. He's been researched, done,
Speaker 1: and its Yeah. You could go to an emotional support
Speaker 1: class and go to the mentally get the class. The
Speaker 1: emotional support class tends to be a few chased darker.
Speaker 1: If the mentally gift the class tends to be a
Speaker 1: few chades lighter because guess what if you dark, we're
Speaker 1: not even testing you for minutally get. It's a very
Speaker 1: strong because most teachers in America are white women. That
Speaker 1: means when a black boy walks, dark skinned black boy,
Speaker 1: when you walk into the class, he's already been condemned
Speaker 1: from the start. Yeah, and I've seen this. This is
Speaker 1: a real thing, the dark skinned nappy head, big no man.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen this is a
Speaker 1: real thing. Yes, yeah, you're good. They think he's yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he got to be a hell of a guy as
Speaker 1: sports or they gonna say he's he's yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: catch this ball or shoot that shot, so you're useless here. Wow.
Speaker 2: That's and that's why so many children go into sports.
Speaker 2: The black boys. It ain't because they necessarily want to
Speaker 2: be an athlete. This is the only way I'm going
Speaker 2: to survive or get recognized here because I'm clearly not
Speaker 2: wanted because of the way.
Speaker 1: And from the parents. A lot of times the sport
Speaker 1: thing drives the parent closer to you because it's like
Speaker 1: they're living through you in some weird way when they
Speaker 1: don't chow to play and you ain't say your daddy,
Speaker 1: and your daddy don't clock in about none. And I
Speaker 1: just spoke to a mother the other day who told
Speaker 1: me her son is only in sports and he's good,
Speaker 1: but he don't even like sports. This is the other day.
Speaker 2: My son is only in sports, doctor Umar, because his
Speaker 2: father only pays.
Speaker 1: Attention to him through sports.
Speaker 2: You see that, So the father only showing up if
Speaker 2: it's a football game, as basketball, it's the only way
Speaker 2: he can get his father's attention. And so a lot
Speaker 2: of black going into sports because their father likes sports
Speaker 2: and this is the only way they.
Speaker 1: Can hook there, right, And I wonder why, I mean,
Speaker 1: why do you think black men do that? Like they
Speaker 1: live vicariously through their children in that way, like in
Speaker 1: the in the in the pathway, not just like I
Speaker 1: look you look like me, junior, like they actually say no,
Speaker 1: go do what I couldn't do. Like what is Some
Speaker 1: of it is natural, it's natural. Right, I own a business.
Speaker 1: I want my son to hold one. It's natural. But
Speaker 1: but if my business could become pathological? Right? But my
Speaker 1: bit before you go, because I know you're finna smoke that.
Speaker 1: But my business, for it to even make it that far,
Speaker 1: to be passed to my son, had to be successful.
Speaker 1: So rassing down something successful is one thing, right, But
Speaker 1: to pass down my failure, yeah, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And if you don't redeem me, the child
Speaker 1: feels twice as bad because not only did I fail
Speaker 1: on the football field, my daddy needed me to win
Speaker 1: in order to salvage his self estate. So now the
Speaker 1: child feels twice as low because not only did I fail,
Speaker 1: my daddy needed me to win this so he could
Speaker 1: validate himself. Man, and they put actions to the marijuana smoke.
Speaker 2: You see that, I let my daddy, even though my
Speaker 2: daddy might be saying, son, don't worry about it. You
Speaker 2: gave it your best. I know needed this it. Now
Speaker 2: I'm feeling less. Stay wow, Now we both feel like
Speaker 2: we ate.
Speaker 1: The females. The women don't go through that dude, do
Speaker 1: they have a version of that? Like, they have a version,
Speaker 1: but it's not as strong because they eat the mother model,
Speaker 1: maybe the model mother, maybe the dancing mother. I've seen
Speaker 1: the dancing mother like where.
Speaker 2: It's there, but it's there, it's not as strong because
Speaker 2: that athlete stall the male egos stronger than the female.
Speaker 1: Right. But here's where it gets interested with our sisters.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the opposite sometimes where the father needs
Speaker 1: the son to succeed because he didn't, the mother wants
Speaker 1: the daughter to fail because she didn't win. So stay
Speaker 1: like me, stay like me.
Speaker 2: So I see a situation where the mothers are sabotage
Speaker 2: of the daughters on purpose. They love them, they want
Speaker 2: them to do well, but they're having a difficult time
Speaker 2: accepting the fact that when this is all said and done,
Speaker 2: she would have exceeded me.
Speaker 1: And I think that's powerful.
Speaker 2: Oh we got as we got a deep seated mommy daughter,
Speaker 2: a deep seed of mommy cooking.
Speaker 1: Now, oh ma, we cook.
Speaker 2: You got a deep seed to mommy daughter. And I
Speaker 2: tell you one of the worst ones. Let's go back
Speaker 2: to the light skinned supremacy, when the mother is of
Speaker 2: a lighter hute and she volumes European standards of beauty.
Speaker 2: So she got the fine nose, the fine lips, the
Speaker 2: yellow skin, the wavy hair. But the daughter has very
Speaker 2: strong African centered features and she knows that the mother
Speaker 2: believes beauty is in the way she looks. So by contraindication,
Speaker 2: I'm ugly. And then the mother never does anything. These
Speaker 2: is non verbal people to catch that.
Speaker 6: Now verbal that's by in the cases, just to the
Speaker 6: example of the energy, Yes.
Speaker 1: By the stundingness she going out with her mom, and
Speaker 1: her mama is all European up those brawls.
Speaker 2: Beautiful sister, but she can't see her beauty right because
Speaker 2: she's judging herself by her mother's standards, which are European.
Speaker 1: Right. Tell you said, yeah, I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: girls self esteem get destroyed by their mother never validating
Speaker 1: their African center trade and then the mother. I've seen
Speaker 1: and again we're not being critical, we're examining, yes, because
Speaker 1: these are major issues, and then we have to speak
Speaker 1: about this. So so when we did, I've seen because
Speaker 1: cosmetic surgery is being and we're gonna speak about that.
Speaker 1: But I've seen where the mother sometimes because we dealt
Speaker 1: with the man's side. So I'm just trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what the women if they're battling this and where
Speaker 1: it lies at. But I have seen what a mother
Speaker 1: would take herself through around the two a cosmetic surgery
Speaker 1: and by indicators that wears on the child as well.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you know that's how I said, Oh, Mama, thick, Yes,
Speaker 1: And so I ain't thick. I must not be, you know,
Speaker 1: kicking as high as she is or being, you know,
Speaker 1: as beautiful as she is.
Speaker 2: The mother is going to get surgery of any kind,
Speaker 2: whether it's the BBL, whether it's facial reconstruction, whatever it is, breast.
Speaker 2: She gotta have a conversation with her daughters about why,
Speaker 2: because if she dope, the daughters are automatically going to
Speaker 2: assume get in line, Get in line. You were not
Speaker 2: comfortable with yourself. I'm your daughter. I looked exactly how
Speaker 2: you look before you undercause you.
Speaker 1: Don't even look like me no more. When you're gonna
Speaker 1: get all that work and come back home, man, we
Speaker 1: used to look just alike, which means what it is
Speaker 1: a rejection. It is a rejection of your fetal type.
Speaker 1: And in rejecting your fetal type, you reject your children.
Speaker 1: M No, I do want to be clear to you.
Speaker 1: Though I can appreciate the BBL, now I can't. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why it don't bounce. Now you're
Speaker 1: talking about the cheap poe. See you're talking about the
Speaker 1: cheap banbl doctor, And how you know it don't bouce?
Speaker 1: First of all, how dare you know it don't bouce?
Speaker 1: King call Kanye.
Speaker 2: Lady, listen to me, sisters, please don't do it.
Speaker 1: It looks Hold on, now we got a shirt. Oh no,
Speaker 1: we got two different No, it looked good in the clothes,
Speaker 1: and it might even look good out of the clothes,
Speaker 1: but it does not move organically. A man can tell
Speaker 1: the difference. A man can tell the difference whether you
Speaker 1: fake in the front or fake in the back. We
Speaker 1: can tell the difference because the bounce ain't the thing
Speaker 1: it sounds at all. It's the quality of the BBL
Speaker 1: you experience. So what're dealing with a guy? What're dealing
Speaker 1: with a guy who has experienced a horrible BBL. So
Speaker 1: y'all are getting the side of the story that's not accurate.
Speaker 1: I'm explaining to you that listen, And so I don't
Speaker 1: know where you pulled this one from. But I would
Speaker 1: say get your get another shot at that now more.
Speaker 1: You're wrong about that. I'm all natural. So oh, I
Speaker 1: have saw you with Suki though, sensing right, So shout
Speaker 1: out to my sister Suka, shout out six and Red.
Speaker 1: We gonna talk down all y'all. I'm talking about all y'all.
Speaker 2: I saw you with Suki. Yes, sister Suki and I
Speaker 2: were friends. We conversate on different topics. See, here's my thing,
Speaker 2: here's my fact. As conscious as we are, we can't
Speaker 2: be so self righteous that we can't go to where
Speaker 2: someone else is and try to move them from where.
Speaker 1: They are to where we need them to be.
Speaker 2: I'm not the pastor who condemns everyone in the neighborhood
Speaker 2: and never get them to join the church. You see that,
Speaker 2: you have to meet them. She's a very influential woman. Yes,
Speaker 2: if one day she decided to come on over to
Speaker 2: the consciousness movement, everybody who follows her comes right on
Speaker 2: with her. And that's the day that I'm looking at
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So me, I.
Speaker 2: Communicate with anybody, and that's one of the stress of
Speaker 2: doctor Umar. They're not going to feel condemned. Right, I'll
Speaker 2: get a brother with a white wife. He'll come over
Speaker 2: with dot I know you see what I got? He
Speaker 2: said it like it's a bad sunwich, just so you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You know, you see what I ordered? Bron,
Speaker 2: They say, you know, but you know, can we still
Speaker 2: of course have a seat my brother, because guess what
Speaker 2: if I cut him off, he'll never go back to
Speaker 2: a system. But if I stay winning, I don't even
Speaker 2: have to talk about his white wife because I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna respect because.
Speaker 1: She's still even big.
Speaker 2: But by allowing him in my space, he's gonna start
Speaker 2: reanalyzing that anyway. And then one day he comes back
Speaker 2: with a beautiful black wing doc I had. I couldn't
Speaker 2: do it no more. Okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I've noticed in my work through the years just
Speaker 2: exposing people to what's right can lead to a change
Speaker 2: in behavior. I remember back in my Garby days, right,
Speaker 2: and of course I'm still a Garvey. I but back
Speaker 2: in North Philadelphia, got Temple University down the street, University
Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania, Drexing, and the students would come to the
Speaker 2: Garvy meeting and they would say, Marcus Gorvey said, race first,
Speaker 2: put the race first. I can't do that. I love everybody,
Speaker 2: I said. It's not about not loving other people, it's
Speaker 2: about loving yourself. Workt well, I can't do that, No problem.
Speaker 1: Just come to the study group. I did.
Speaker 2: Impressure them kids, and guess what they slowly, one by
Speaker 2: one started joining on their own. Just walk, I'm ready
Speaker 2: to sign up. I didn't do nothing, just expose them
Speaker 2: to the truth. You see what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 2: why I will meet with anybody. I will go anywhere.
Speaker 2: Feel like Christ said in the Bible. I'm not comparing
Speaker 2: myself to Christ where they say, you know, master what
Speaker 2: you go into the house of a thief.
Speaker 1: But he said I go anywhere. Well, I'm invited. That's
Speaker 1: how doctor whumaas.
Speaker 2: I'll go anywhere I'm invited because I know that when
Speaker 2: you are presented with the truth, your soul responds to it,
Speaker 2: and sooner or later, sooner or later, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: to come around as well. Because we as African people,
Speaker 2: we are God's chosen people and therefore we are structured
Speaker 2: to participate in righteousness no matter what. You see what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So when somebody holds up that mirror of
Speaker 2: righteousness to you. Sooner or lady, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: consider it because that shit nature anyway.
Speaker 1: You know what? And you know I think, like I said, man,
Speaker 1: you're great at this. You're definitely great at this. But
Speaker 1: we didn't get an asser about Suki. We talked about
Speaker 1: a lot. You took me around. I told you we
Speaker 1: were friends, right, right, But okay, So because seeing we're
Speaker 1: coming off the BBL conversation, we're coming off how you
Speaker 1: are not interested in BBL what so well, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if the sister has right, right, but but
Speaker 1: again I'm telling you that the circumstances are the circumstances
Speaker 1: unknown or no right, and so by you being someone
Speaker 1: who is that strong about bbl's right, I'll ask you
Speaker 1: about Suk. And I'm just telling you how we kind
Speaker 1: of got to her anyway, because I don't want it
Speaker 1: to seem like it's just I'd never act right, I wouldn't, right, okay,
Speaker 1: right now, But you've heard some of the things she's
Speaker 1: said about you, right, yeah, all right, So meeting someone
Speaker 1: would a bb A that said some of those things
Speaker 1: about you, meaning that she finds you attractive. Uh, she
Speaker 1: you know certain things that she So I'm saying the meetup,
Speaker 1: I mean, help me understand what's going on there. The
Speaker 1: meetups are professional and platonic. With a with a woman
Speaker 1: that calls you attractive, with a BBL professor or platon
Speaker 1: shut out, I'll leave it at that. Shut out to
Speaker 1: Suki with with do you know sex? You're red? Familiar with?
Speaker 1: Sex of Red? I've seen her recently. I never heard
Speaker 1: of her before. Are you familiar with her content? I've
Speaker 1: heard the kind of car. I've never heard her rap,
Speaker 1: though I haven't seen the video that's some of the
Speaker 1: kind and I got her coming on soon. So I
Speaker 1: don't want to know you're right, right, right slamder her
Speaker 1: at all. But you know, it's just I was having
Speaker 1: that conversation about about female rap and how, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: they're kind of mimicking what they saw the men do
Speaker 1: in Gangster. I agree with. I don't think that they're
Speaker 1: necessarily created this path. Oftentimes I see them promote a
Speaker 1: lifestyle that they don't even adopt, and it's dangerous, but
Speaker 1: it's dangerous the same way the men done it, And
Speaker 1: so I believe the men really led those women into
Speaker 1: creating that kind of cop I totally agree with you,
Speaker 1: but the men were never held accounta before it right,
Speaker 1: women are being it's the double sting, right, and the
Speaker 1: women again sometimes they get with these guys right, and
Speaker 1: it's like, and this is why I try to give
Speaker 1: grace on the content. But I know it's effective in
Speaker 1: regards to its programming minds. I know that, but I
Speaker 1: try to sometimes because I always try to think put
Speaker 1: myself in someone's shoes like I did with Dion. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: see out of their lens, right, see out of a
Speaker 1: young girl like six year red with two kids, two
Speaker 1: baby daddies. They both in jail, and I know how
Speaker 1: to rap, and I start rapping like this, and it
Speaker 1: started going. Do I turn that off when I have
Speaker 1: nothing to fall back on? Like how many people will actually,
Speaker 1: at twenty four years old, start getting one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: a show, sixty thousand a show and just turn that off?
Speaker 1: Even if I know I'm not necessarily adopting that lifestyle,
Speaker 1: but it's effective for the family, and I think so
Speaker 1: many of us live in that place, you do, we all?
Speaker 1: That's why I try to give grace, right. I don't
Speaker 1: exempt anyone, but I try to understand the route they'll take.
Speaker 1: And that's why when I look at and Dionna's like him,
Speaker 1: not a finished product, I think that we're on a
Speaker 1: journey and Colorado is just on that list of getting
Speaker 1: where I'm going. And the same with sixy read. It's
Speaker 1: like you get in that position, turn this on and
Speaker 1: it works. I got children? What do I do? What
Speaker 1: would you say to a young girl just rapping in
Speaker 1: kind of content? How does she get out of that?
Speaker 1: I don't think my message would be to the young
Speaker 1: girl wrapping the content. I think my message would be
Speaker 1: to the black community that gave rise to the circumstances
Speaker 1: that put her in a position where she had to
Speaker 1: sing that content. I think one of the things we
Speaker 1: often miss when we talk about accountability responsibility is that
Speaker 1: we felt her recognize that everything we do takes place
Speaker 1: within a culture. It takes place within a community, and
Speaker 1: too often, because we are disorganized, selfish group of people,
Speaker 1: we like to make individuals scapegoat for systemic problem. You
Speaker 1: see that whether it's Sexy Red, whether it's Sister suki Hana,
Speaker 1: whether it's the gangster Rapper, everything takes place within a
Speaker 1: cultural context, right, So what situation was she born in?
Speaker 1: What situation were her parents born in? What did the
Speaker 1: Black church do for her mother? What did the black
Speaker 1: politicians do for her mother? What did the black community
Speaker 1: organizes do for her mother? What can they do well?
Speaker 2: Number One, If it wasn't for the economic desperation, a
Speaker 2: lot of our young people will be making better.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's the point I'm making. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this thing working. Yeah, And she should have never had
Speaker 1: to go there. The reason she had to go there
Speaker 1: is she belongs to a community, the black community, that
Speaker 1: does not feel the need to use its disposable income
Speaker 1: to create financial opportunities for as young people go to
Speaker 1: the streets.
Speaker 2: Right now, our young people are terrorizing our community, and
Speaker 2: it's our fault because we have not created any opportunities
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: You let me go to a school that miseducate me.
Speaker 1: I get specially educated. I get medicated, I get you
Speaker 1: and our duty adjudicated. I get incarcerated, right, I get
Speaker 1: gang initiated. Right, I get raped, I get molested. I
Speaker 1: got put out on the street by my mind, whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. And now all that pain that
Speaker 1: the community allowed me to feel I'm going to give
Speaker 1: it back to the community.
Speaker 2: And now you got eleven year olds robbing eighty four
Speaker 2: year olds at the ATM that video that came out
Speaker 2: last week, and maybe want to cry. He looked like
Speaker 2: he was nine years old, robbing someone old enough to
Speaker 2: be his great grandmother. But when we allow our children
Speaker 2: to be raised by social media, we allow our children
Speaker 2: to be raised by the television and not raising them ourselves.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. If you're a black child
Speaker 2: in Nashville, you're a black child and child and Nuga.
Speaker 2: You're a black child in Knoxville, Memphis, where can you
Speaker 2: go if you really need an adult to spend some
Speaker 2: time with you. There's nowhere to go.
Speaker 1: You can go to.
Speaker 2: Church, but you gotta swallow the doctrine before they value
Speaker 2: you first. That's thee how that works. You're not important
Speaker 2: in this church until you swallow this doctrine. So where
Speaker 2: can a black child go in America if they need
Speaker 2: an adult to spend some time with them to see that?
Speaker 2: But the PEMP has spent some time with me, the
Speaker 2: drug dealers spend some time with me. They're gonna huse
Speaker 2: me to exploit me, but they gonna spend some time
Speaker 2: with me. We have turned our backs on our children.
Speaker 2: We have not raised them, we have not nurtured them,
Speaker 2: and now the black community is collecting the karmic debt
Speaker 2: that has come from our neglect of our children is
Speaker 2: oven jobs. Build our own schools for our children, and
Speaker 2: create jobs for them. If we never do those two things,
Speaker 2: we never get our young people back. Is your school
Speaker 2: gonna be credited in the state? Yes, Well, remember that
Speaker 2: accreditation is voluntary. State law gives you the right to operate,
Speaker 2: So the state approves you to operate. If you want
Speaker 2: to get accredited. That's voluntary.
Speaker 1: The credited process speaks, doesn't that Isn't that what speaks
Speaker 1: to the workforce?
Speaker 2: No, not necessarily, because you got to remember you got
Speaker 2: children who are homeschooled to college. They've never been to
Speaker 2: a school at all. You see what I'm saying. Even
Speaker 2: in college, you can homeschool college. No, No, homeschooled into college.
Speaker 2: In other words, my child is a same difference. Okay,
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: They know you're plugging the f DMG instead of the homeschool,
Speaker 1: and it'll be like the same process, absolutely, except we're
Speaker 1: a real school. Versus right.
Speaker 2: Home school is a decentralized form of education. It's not
Speaker 2: the equivalent of private school, charter school, public.
Speaker 1: School, you see. It's homeschooling. It's more of an activity
Speaker 1: than an institution, you see. But accreditation is voluntary. So
Speaker 1: if I wanted to go to.
Speaker 2: Delaware State Accredited Accreditation Bureau, I can have them come
Speaker 2: in look at all our paperwork, curriculum, teaching bubba bum
Speaker 2: and they would decide if they want to credit us
Speaker 2: or not. Now, for me, as a Pan Africanist, I
Speaker 2: would never do that because I don't need white people
Speaker 2: to tell me how to teach black kids. So I'll
Speaker 2: never be doing that. Right if the state required it,
Speaker 2: we would do it, you feel me.
Speaker 1: But I would not voluntarily go to white people and
Speaker 1: ask them how well am I doing teaching black kids?
Speaker 1: How much of your money from fundraising do you think
Speaker 1: came from white people? Any? Zero? Zero dollars? Ye? That
Speaker 1: it might have been a couple anonymous night boots fit
Speaker 1: a dollar or two, probably, right?
Speaker 2: But am I aware? Am I consciously aware of re
Speaker 2: seeing a donation from a white person?
Speaker 1: No? So ooh this is good? So a white person
Speaker 1: can't give you five million dollars, say doctor mar been
Speaker 1: a fan of use is twenty twelve. I see what
Speaker 1: you got going on? Go get that school, white man,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about whitest other white. I don't think I
Speaker 1: could take it. Okay, So the mission ain't that important there? No,
Speaker 1: it is? Okay? How important is the mission when you
Speaker 1: can't take the money? Nothing? I didn't speak to any
Speaker 1: stipulations tied to it. I said this will get your
Speaker 1: school up and running tomorrow, and you denied it. And
Speaker 1: a mistake you just made is you said, a white
Speaker 1: person is going to give doctor Umar five million dollars
Speaker 1: with no stipulation? Yeah, what went in his auditorial beliefs? No? Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm how is that worth clapping? The white people don't
Speaker 1: get that kind of money without no stipulations. Brother, they
Speaker 1: don't give that kind of old mar give geta honestly,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. But what's that worth clapping about? Yes,
Speaker 1: all you said was yes, all you're saying, look and
Speaker 1: I like this gonna play well on you too. But
Speaker 1: all you said was all you said was what the
Speaker 1: hell did you?
Speaker 5: Jay?
Speaker 1: It didn't even stick? What did you? Here's the question
Speaker 1: you're missing that's what it was. You're missing. Okay, so
Speaker 1: listen why I'm telling you you're missing the spirit? Go ahead,
Speaker 1: white man, give me five million, right, I build the
Speaker 1: school with five million. Y'all come to the grand opening,
Speaker 1: y'all gonna be happy, y'all going to celebrate. But when
Speaker 1: you go home, in the back of your mind, you're
Speaker 1: still saying white people did this for us. Again, do
Speaker 1: you understand? Ain't nobody saying that, yes, yes, these people, Yes,
Speaker 1: it speaks it speaking of the spirit. Ain't nobody even
Speaker 1: if it speaks to the spirit.
Speaker 2: No, go ahead, go ahead, hear me out, good brother,
Speaker 2: it speaks to the spirit.
Speaker 1: You know why ninety percent of all black institutions are
Speaker 1: financed or owned by white people? Don't even know that?
Speaker 1: Yes we do. Most people don't. Most people this crowd
Speaker 1: made because this is a college. He I be seeing time.
Speaker 1: Most people don't even think of it like that, right.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, if the mission is more
Speaker 1: important than you, how you feel, how you think, what
Speaker 1: I my emotions, then why isn't this money? Even if
Speaker 1: they kill me about it, even if they but school
Speaker 1: get to go, get up and run it. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand that. Have you ever heard this statement? The
Speaker 1: journey is just as important as the destination. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: we get the school done is just as important as
Speaker 1: getting the school done.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. How do I open
Speaker 2: up a school called Frederick Douglas Marcus Golfy Academy, two
Speaker 2: black men who believed in self determination, but I let
Speaker 2: a white man build the school for me? How do
Speaker 2: I tell the boys that you can do this on
Speaker 2: your own. You don't need white people, you don't need
Speaker 2: nobody but your own community. How can I say that?
Speaker 1: Do you truly believe that? Absolutely? Do you think that?
Speaker 1: Do you truly believe that it'll happen off the backs
Speaker 1: of only us? It already has. It's not open yet,
Speaker 1: so it helst happen. Yeah, well it will be once
Speaker 1: we get the certificate of occupacy, but I already had. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, but so so you you've done this?
Speaker 1: You so this got to be the first school without
Speaker 1: white involvement, definitely in one hundred years since Marcus gone,
Speaker 1: and probably the first ever that was financed exclusively by
Speaker 1: the African diaspora. Every Black community on Earth donated to FDM.
Speaker 1: When did you when did you globalize your your your
Speaker 1: your movement, because it wasn't that way at first.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I was always Pan African and so it was always
Speaker 2: global It just it just took a while for my
Speaker 2: message to get around to the camp.
Speaker 1: I feel like you started at some point going super
Speaker 1: Pan Africa, like I thought you was always Hey, no,
Speaker 1: hell no, no, I'm saying I ain't speaking about in
Speaker 1: your spirit. I'm speaking about in your communication. The message
Speaker 1: was always it was always so, even on those DVDs.
Speaker 1: Now now every time I see you talk, I hear
Speaker 1: Pan African always from the Okay, so I must have
Speaker 1: missed that. It seemed like if they started it evolved
Speaker 1: it been Pan Africa this time. I've always wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you where do you get this from? And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do a quick doctor Jumar impression, all right, and
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me where you got this from.
Speaker 1: So you will be on live right say doctor Umar's online,
Speaker 1: and it'll be like, uh, good morning brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1: You know today we will make sure that we get
Speaker 1: everything we need to get done. Good morning today, brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters. Good morning today, brothers and sisters. Good morning today, brothers.
Speaker 1: You'll give them four or five with him three of them. Okay,
Speaker 1: what is that is that you thinking? Is that you?
Speaker 1: What is that I do that? Because I've adopted that,
Speaker 1: I want you to know. Yeah, effective, it's effective. The
Speaker 1: brain is the creature of repetition. Yes, not truth, repetition, Yes, right, program.
Speaker 1: I say it three times the points I really want
Speaker 1: them to get. I repeated three times, because repetition is
Speaker 1: how you condition the unconscious, so once to understand, a
Speaker 1: second time to understand, and the third time the over
Speaker 1: I knew it was I knew that wasn't you stumbled.
Speaker 1: I knew it was something there because I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: he just nah, I know him, and we speaking, we
Speaker 1: don't really have to. So I'm saying, when you do that,
Speaker 1: I said, oh, it's technique. There's something that Who did
Speaker 1: you study in regards to speaking, because speaking is such
Speaker 1: a talent that people don't really understand. They don't even
Speaker 1: know how hard this is, fus and just being doing it.
Speaker 1: Who did you study?
Speaker 2: I never really studied anyone, I guess, and directly Garby
Speaker 2: and Douglas would be the main too, obviously, but most
Speaker 2: of our leaders were great orators, you know. So I've
Speaker 2: listened to all of them, but I never patterned myself
Speaker 2: after anyone or anything like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It just came out. You
Speaker 1: took nothing from any of you. You took technique. You
Speaker 1: ain't took no technique from no one if it was
Speaker 1: any tech. Because see you got the you got the pointing,
Speaker 1: you got you bro, I'm high level. Listen, I'm this
Speaker 1: is how I make money. So I'm high level examining
Speaker 1: speakers right the point the everything. I'm watching it all.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, this is a developed thing. This isn't
Speaker 1: something you can walk off the porch with. So I
Speaker 1: wonder I think some of us are born with it.
Speaker 1: Though I think some of us are born with it.
Speaker 2: I think I think the great ones like Garvey Douglas,
Speaker 2: doctor King. You can't teach that, doc can nurture it.
Speaker 2: I ain't saying teach, and that's what I mean, like,
Speaker 2: you can't teach it. I'm not saying teach.
Speaker 1: It because teaching people how to speak, yes, but not
Speaker 1: on this level. Right. So I'm saying when i'm when
Speaker 1: I'm peeping what you're doing, Understand I've already identified that
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm watching the best speakers in the world,
Speaker 1: because this is how I make this money, right, So
Speaker 1: I ain't even talking about the rest of those guys.
Speaker 1: I'm saying the highest level of communication, right you the
Speaker 1: phara cons the people that I look in and say, oh,
Speaker 1: all right, let's pull a notepad. I'll get some of
Speaker 1: their technique. Because there's there's brough control, there's pausing, there's repeating,
Speaker 1: there's there's face. You know, there's so much this happening.
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering who deposited anything.
Speaker 2: The only technique that I'm conscious of having borrowed from
Speaker 2: my predecessors is the need to pause occasionally. Yet I'll
Speaker 2: just go yeah, and I won't stop.
Speaker 1: So I consciously try to remember to Paul yes. And
Speaker 1: that's probably more of a Frederick Douglass thing yet, because
Speaker 1: people have to take it in even with me, like see,
Speaker 1: because even with me, when you try to get into
Speaker 1: that vibe, you know, it's like, right, at some point,
Speaker 1: I gotta start talking to you like you listening, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and some people they just talking.
Speaker 1: You got to talk to somebody like they're listening. You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I need emphasis on someth I need to
Speaker 1: lay there for that. Like even in our communication to
Speaker 1: the today, you will say something like for your black liberation,
Speaker 1: and you'll just let that live. And I think those techniques.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that people are watching
Speaker 1: those things and you're you're pouring into people indirectly just by.
Speaker 2: You know spiritually, right, is about five different major spiritual gifts.
Speaker 1: You have your clear cognizance. That's when information from the
Speaker 1: universe is downloaded automatically.
Speaker 2: Into your mind. You know it, but you don't know
Speaker 2: when you learned it. That's clear cognizance. When I speak,
Speaker 2: not all the time, but sometimes clear cognizance will take
Speaker 2: over and I'm saying things about things I've never learned nowhere,
Speaker 2: so it's coming directly from the ancestors. And I'll go
Speaker 2: back and look at a clip and say, how did
Speaker 2: I say that?
Speaker 1: And I didn't even know that?
Speaker 2: So this sometimes you get into a zone yeah, where
Speaker 2: it's not even your Oh man, I.
Speaker 1: Love those zones, man, them zones there when if I
Speaker 1: can get in a pocket on these boards, it's nothing
Speaker 1: like it, That's what I'm saying. It's not all the time.
Speaker 1: It's magic and you feel it as a speaker as
Speaker 1: someone you say, you know where you're heah, I got
Speaker 1: it in my bag.
Speaker 6: I'm notopping like take a break. We ain't taking a
Speaker 6: break all week a. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And the one thing I learned about public speaking, public
Speaker 1: speaking taught me more than anything else. We have no
Speaker 1: control over the outcome. Because I walk into a certain lecture,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna tear this up the night. It's
Speaker 1: the right sound, right building, write this, It'll be a
Speaker 1: regular electure. And then I'll go somewhere where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a regular little talk. It's my classics.
Speaker 1: All of my classics were unintentional.
Speaker 2: Everyone, the ones that people love. I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 2: never even thought that night was gonna be special. And
Speaker 2: it's never up to us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is important for the young concert creators
Speaker 1: because they're watching us. But here's the thing too. As
Speaker 1: I'm going further than FIRSD, I just didn't invest fists
Speaker 1: for twenty thousand people, right, And so when you come
Speaker 1: out and it's that many people, you look around like
Speaker 1: what is this right? And it's like you blow a
Speaker 1: circuit or you blow a fuse. You get it back.
Speaker 1: But for a brief second, it's almost like what like June,
Speaker 1: just like everything you was thinking of your thought process,
Speaker 1: but it eventually comes it eventually comes back. Do you
Speaker 1: find yourself ever being in that mode? Because you speak
Speaker 1: so much now, I don't think you may find yourself in.
Speaker 2: For me, the best speech is the first time they
Speaker 2: saw you, because it's no expectations. You feel me and
Speaker 2: I'm gona like I'm going to Cameroon, Africa next week. Right,
Speaker 2: I was in Brussels, Belgium last week. I never been
Speaker 2: to Brussels, so there's no pressure because I know they
Speaker 2: know me from social media, but they never felt me
Speaker 2: in the person. Right, This is no pressure.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: You know what the pressure is. When I've been in
Speaker 1: Nash Little ten times and y'all came back to see
Speaker 1: me that eleven, that's pressure because y'all know what to expect.
Speaker 1: Y'all seated, and I gotta give y'all a new, fresh
Speaker 1: message and be even more dynamic I was the previous
Speaker 1: nine time. So some people will say the more you
Speaker 1: come back to a city, the easier. Not for me,
Speaker 1: it's the harder.
Speaker 2: You feel, Like a place like Chicago, where I spend
Speaker 2: a lot New York, where I spend a lot.
Speaker 1: It's pressure because not only do I gotta have a
Speaker 1: new message, I got to grab you every time better
Speaker 1: than I did the last and what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do right because I'm a sender so fast, So I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out when now I'm conscious about this
Speaker 1: as I'm getting because it's so much money on the
Speaker 1: line and anybody watching me. I got millions of people
Speaker 1: watch I need y'all to know this. Pay attention to
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing right now. Man, I'm finding myself trying
Speaker 1: to understand when I get those zones, I literally try
Speaker 1: to backtrack what that day was, Like, did I place
Speaker 1: myself there? Was it something I done before the show?
Speaker 1: Was it? Even though I know it's probably not because
Speaker 1: it never re enacts itself, But it's like, I'm conscious
Speaker 1: on trying to grab that or create that environment that
Speaker 1: puts me. Have you found anything like that for you?
Speaker 1: That something that puts you into a like me, I
Speaker 1: went back the other day and I'm giving you a
Speaker 1: second before you came. I'm like, I'm trying to fish
Speaker 1: what what is that that gets my brain like? Because
Speaker 1: sometimes do my brain and go and it's like I'm
Speaker 1: on another it's another frequency. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you. I believe when you
Speaker 1: get to a certain level within your spiritual development myself included,
Speaker 1: you'll be able to activate it at will. The reason
Speaker 1: we can't actively at will yet we not at that
Speaker 1: frequency yet. Follow what I'm saying. When you get to
Speaker 1: that frequency, you'll be able to activate it at will.
Speaker 1: That zone.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the athlete too, where they shoot a shot
Speaker 2: and can miss. Right for fobb me be in that zone. Yes,
Speaker 2: you went to a hot you went into your super
Speaker 2: conscious mind. Yes, right, But we have to get there
Speaker 2: through the spiritual door. Is there anything that gets you there?
Speaker 2: Like I've seen you.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody that maybe they argue with you and
Speaker 1: they play who think he? Or they insult your intelligence
Speaker 1: or they not?
Speaker 2: Because it's all based on divine timing, is right. So
Speaker 2: from an African perspective, we exist in two worlds. We
Speaker 2: exist in the physical and we exist in the spiritual.
Speaker 2: At the same time, we can't see what's happening.
Speaker 1: In the spiritual. It could have been within the spiritual
Speaker 1: design for this day for you to access your God consciousness.
Speaker 1: For that you follow what I'm saying, because remember, we
Speaker 1: got our own plans. Our ancestors got a plan too,
Speaker 1: and then God got a plan too. So we think
Speaker 1: that when we wake up, we're just living our life
Speaker 1: as we want. No, your ancestors got a hand in it,
Speaker 1: because you are a reincarnation of them. And then the
Speaker 1: most high the universe has a design of its own.
Speaker 1: And this is why when you hear like doctor King
Speaker 1: say I want to do God's will, you got.
Speaker 2: To tap into that. You got to tap into that.
Speaker 2: The highest form of expression is when what you want
Speaker 2: is the exact same thing God wants you. That's divine
Speaker 2: consciousness and that's the purpose of life. And that's why
Speaker 2: I think that we as black people never get to
Speaker 2: where we see supposed to be brothers and sisters until
Speaker 2: we divorce ourselves from all of this European materialism that
Speaker 2: we swallowed up because we have become more materialistic than
Speaker 2: the Caucasian. We are literally worshiping money, and there's no
Speaker 2: why would God help us get free, really help us
Speaker 2: take back over the world as we once rented. If
Speaker 2: all we gonna do is replicate European culture, does that
Speaker 2: make any.
Speaker 1: Sense to you.
Speaker 2: God is not gonna help you. Why would he get
Speaker 2: rid of the white man so the black men can
Speaker 2: replicate the white men. You have to go back to
Speaker 2: being who you are. And when you go back to
Speaker 2: being who you are, that's when Supreme Conscience will come
Speaker 2: and say, Okay, my children, you ready, let me put
Speaker 2: you back on the drone. We do not go back
Speaker 2: on the drone. We do not until we recover our
Speaker 2: African minds.
Speaker 1: This is what we do on this side. So I
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Speaker 1: you enjoyed this conversation. Part three we get into doctor
Speaker 1: Umar and Fara Khan. I felt that it was time
Speaker 1: for a conversation with doctor Umar Johnson about the honor
Speaker 1: o Bull Minister Lewis Fara Kahd, if he believes he
Speaker 1: speaks better than him, if he got anything from him,
Speaker 1: how he feels was about him. And we also spoke
Speaker 1: about fundraising. There's been a lot of conversation surrounding crowdfunding.
Speaker 1: Doctor Umar was probably one of the first ones that
Speaker 1: that that took that leap of faith as it portased
Speaker 1: the crowdfunding. So we had a very very very interesting
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Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Just enjoyed it. Just enjoyed it. Hope you did too, right,
Speaker 1: Thank you, have a good day. Peace