WEBVTT - Dr Umar Johnson & Big Loon Live Debate - Part 2 - 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.360 But here's where it gets interested with our sisters. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.920 It's kind of the opposite sometimes, where the father needs 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:10.399 the son to succeed because he didn't, the mother wants 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:14.680 the daughter to fail because she didn't win. The teachers 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.000 pay more attention to the children in the class who 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.840 are lighter, and so you could go in. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:21.480 Some school, hold on, say that again. 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:27.240 Teachers pay more attention to the children in their classroom unconsciously. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.000 Who are lighter. The darker kids get less attention. A 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.880 white person can't give you five million dollar, say doctor 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.600 mar Been a fan of use is twenty twelve. I 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.120 see what you got going on? Go get that school, 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:45.160 white man, I'm talking about whitest other white. I don't 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:49.440 think I could take it. I can appreciate him to BBL. No, 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.760 I can't. And I'm gonna tell you why it don't bounce. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.920 Now you're talking about the chief boy, see you talking 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.640 about the chief BNBL doctors and how you know it 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.880 don't ours? First of all, how dare you know it 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:04.640 don't bounce? 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:05.120 King? 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:13.319 Call Kanye Lady, listen to me. Sisters, please don't do it. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.440 It looks hold on now we got a shirt? Oh 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.759 whoa hold No, we got two different No, it looked 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.399 good in the clothes, and it might even look good 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.480 out of the clothes, but it does not move organically. 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:35.240 I ham saw you with Sunki though sentences right, So 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.080 shout out to my sister Suka, shout out six and Red. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.360 We're gonna talk down all y'all. I'm talking about all y'all. 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.520 I saw you with Sunki. Ar Yes, sister Suki and. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:02:21.720 I their podcast live show is like. It was real 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.320 cool and the host he was asking a lot of 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.480 like good questions for like, he was giving a lot 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.600 of pushing back for to give his more you know 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.840 more what he had to say about the topics he had. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.200 My experience of that It's Up their live podcast show 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.959 was amazing. I came because I met Loon. That's the 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.560 time you have a show. I definitely will be in attendance, 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.040 and I was. I have my own podcast, so I'm 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.720 definitely learning a lot from this man. King is giving 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.519 me gems every time I see him. I really enjoyed 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.639 that It's Up their podcast live show. I learned a lot. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:54.919 It's Up. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.320 Their live podcast show was amazing. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:01.360 It was a good time and always information and the 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.079 perfect date night for a Friday night. 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:04.000 I think that. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:09.240 It's Up their Lives podcast was phenomenal, nearly a platform 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:10.800 that I am so glad to be a part of. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:15.359 It was definitely enlightening and motivating and empowering. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.600 Oh it was awesome. I am so glad. I had 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.040 so many other things going on today, but I beat 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:27.360 it important. It was very important to me. It was 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.760 also important for me to bring my grandson or share 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:43.560 with everybody I know. Disrespectful mes turn up in my content. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.920 This is a show that I'm having. So ye we're brother, Yeah, 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.520 we real tight. So this is right. So disrespectful means 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.040 turn up in my show, and I shouldn't have stopped, 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.840 but I want to address that. Continue. I'm sorry. I 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:02.080 believe that I would sit here. Part of my mission 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.440 is to raise the consciousness, and the voice is the 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.440 greatest weapon to do that. I was never taught how 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.080 to speak. In fourth grade Black history class, there was 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.960 an oratorical contest North Philly from Bill Cosby's neighborhood, and 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.760 I got into the public speaking contest at one first place, 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:26.279 and I just never shut up. I was born to speak. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.760 I'm related to Frederick Douglas. He was a great orator. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.840 It runs in my family. It's why I'm here. 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.040 If I love so my speaking is more of a 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:39.520 ministry of black consciousness. It heals, and it helps, and 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:41.440 it motivates and it transforms people. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.480 I believe that's part of why I'm here. But it's 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.000 not the only reason I'm here. Because we've had great 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.839 orators all throughout our history. But what we have to 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.520 do is build institutions and leave a legacy. That's what 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.520 we have to do. This speaking is good, but it's 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.240 not gonna save us. The speaking is to get your 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.359 attention so I can organize you for transformation. Okay, so 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:07.440 do you I believe again, man, I don't know if you. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.599 I think you notice. I think you just you're in this. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:15.000 You get into this spot. Except that podcast is leading 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.360 the culture conversation as well as having one of the 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:23.920 highest consumption rated podcasts in all of America. What that 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:27.200 means for your brand and for this opportunity is that 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.240 not only are people watching the part nine times out 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.520 of ten, that watching it all the way through. So 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.800 if you have a brand and it needs to get 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.320 in front of people, you need to send an email 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.520 to this email that you see in this description. Also, 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.440 you know, have your budget ready, be ready to invest 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.520 in yourself, get your brand in front of the people, 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.440 highly engaged audience. I have three tiers of audience. I 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:56.200 have a Patreon audience that is all one hundred paid. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.680 And what that means is that these are verifiable pain 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.800 customers that we can take you behind the paywall to them. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.880 We also can have you on our free channel on 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.640 the audio live evist like. We have so many different opportunities. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:12.560 I bet the business got to be right. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:13.120 You know. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.359 I wouldn't be me if I just allowed anything to 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.799 take place on this illustrious platform that we're building together. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.599 So I wanted to stop in for a minute. I 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.160 don't want to take much of your time. But if 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:32.480 you have a brand, a service, a product, reach out 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.880 to this up that podcast, get that product in front 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.800 of people, invest in yourself. All right, now, let's get 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.760 back to the show. I believe again, man, I don't 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.640 know if you I think you noticed. I think you 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:49.520 just you're in this. You get into this spot right 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:54.800 where you almost like you get in character, not that 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.880 you're faking, but you get into this like spot where 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.480 you just it's all about the mission. It's all about all. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.559 It's always about it. But I think I think you see, 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.120 yeah see planning into it. See this is played into it. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.800 Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so yeah yeah, this is played 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.000 into it. Talk to anybody who know me. They don't 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.480 tell you yet. No, I'm with you and I've been 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.280 knowing you, so I know you won't it. It ain't 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.560 it ain't that, but I do. I just noted fake 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.080 with me. Nah, But I do think that there's room 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.400 to discuss that. There's other things on your agenda that 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:30.760 don't coincide with the mission one hundred. Again, we went 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.120 to that, so I want to I want to move 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.640 past that. Let's talk about your content creation. I was 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.080 telling you backstage that you are one of the most 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.800 visible people online. What do you do to keep your 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:47.200 content valuable and not oversaturated? Uh? Nothing until the conversation 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:47.680 we had. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.640 Now you're giving me things I need to think about 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.800 based on our conversation we had earlier backstage. But to 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.320 this point, I never looked at my content as a 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.800 means to monetization or or money. Is purely to wake 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.520 up our people, purely to give them an alternative view. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.800 It's purely to let them know that they're not crazy 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.080 when they see things that isn't making sense. So it's 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.400 been I never knew that I would be what I 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.720 am on social media. I never heard it. I didn't 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.320 even know what TikTok was. So people say you need 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.960 to get on TikTok because you all over it. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.040 I didn't know. You know, I don't have a YouTube page, right, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.040 So I didn't know social media would respond to me 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.880 the way that it has, especially given my views, which 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.840 many people would consider it to be radical or controversial. 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.280 So that was purely an act of God that I've 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:44.040 been able to have that type of presence online standing 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.160 for what I stand for. I never expected out in 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.680 my wildest dreapes. And you know what I find interest 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.080 in You came from a crop or a batch of 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.920 conscious community where it was very strong. I said, Umar 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:57.960 is probably one of the only ones that's been able 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.079 to transcend that, and run of those guys kind of 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.840 have faded a way. You still see the Candice ons, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.280 You're still seeing you, and I'm believe that's my way 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:11.559 it stops at. Yeah, what do you contribute that too? 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.160 I think a lot of it has to do with 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.720 my expertise as a school psychologist. It's kind of hard 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.480 to separate my impact from my profession, because if I 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.400 was not a school psychologist, if I couldn't help parents 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.679 help their children, if I. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.520 Couldn't value in, I couldn't diagnose, if I couldn't teach 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.000 them about the medications, if I couldn't help them with 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:38.839 the IEPs, if I couldn't review the psychological evaluations, what 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:39.880 I be is relevant. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.959 I don't know that. Some people would say yes, some 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.400 people would say no. It's no way to know, because 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.719 I've never not been the school psychologists, you see, and 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.520 so it's hard to separate the two, although I think 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.599 presently though, I definitely think doctor Umartin Pan africanist is 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.679 a much more popular person than doctor Ummartin's psychologists. But 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:04.440 I think doctor umater psychologists is more valuable in that 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.400 parents clearly see in me someone who can help them. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.079 And you know what I think it is, and this 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.280 is old fashioned for anybody in content creating. It's like, 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.920 literally add value whatever you're doing. And so I think 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.960 what you really have in the background in understanding the 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:25.520 medicines and understanding psychology, I think that value did set 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.880 you apart because a lot of people was just talking. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.240 When you get into it eating but toy, Yeah, you 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.439 get into meeting potatoes and you really understood. I remember 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.600 used to walk around with the big DS DSM five 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.440 book and so these kind of things I think made 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.880 you kind of reign supreme. In regards to those those 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.199 guys delayed there, it seemed like the talking just subsided, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:52.160 just kind of went wade you. I mean, the documentary 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:56.040 era was a boom for y'all. Do y'all you still 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:57.520 get paid for any of those things. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.760 Nah, I've never produced my own documentary and the ones 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.240 that I was in, I never really made anything off 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:04.600 of those. 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.600 That's what I was talking to you back, utilizing your 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.680 own packaging for you because your brain is so big, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.000 Like everyone knows you're one of the most popular black 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.720 people in the world. But it's the packaging that's why 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.160 people can come and package you and sell it. Yeah, right, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.080 people can come and say, Yo, I'm gonna get Doctor 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.880 Umah on my DVD and I'm gonna go get a bag. Yeah, 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.199 and Doctor umar shouldn't be able to put that DVD 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:32.280 together with that voice. And to your point, I definitely 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.880 think I've lost out financially by being so giving. But 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:41.000 at the same time, I would not do anything different 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.960 because I don't think we get that school built if 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.840 people didn't know my heart was real. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.640 I don't think I would be as popular as I 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.160 am globally if people didn't know my heart was real. 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.280 So I don't regret any of it. You know, even 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.920 now people say, hey, you gotta redirect your content on YouTube. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.520 You got about five different pages misrepresent themselves as you 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.199 making money off of you, and we'll we will get 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.440 to that. But at the same time, that's how people 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.720 came to know who I want, by people posting the content. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.760 So so you gotta lose a little bit to get 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.880 a little gotta lose, yeah, yes, just like Dion, Yes, 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.679 that ain't got nothing to do. Let me do Amy 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:31.280 doing Otter cut it out. Nah, But but I don't know, 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.960 it just wrapped back around to that. But but seriously, 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.320 you know you have to lose a little bit to 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:38.800 get a little bit. And you were you were in 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.280 content wars with a lot of guys. What was that 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.240 eraror like for you? I had a beef every year 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:50.000 round Christmas. We've always tried to pay the YouTube bill, 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.559 try to get the YouTube check. That's what I didn't realize. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.280 Yeah, yeah, my supporter said, stop responding because if you notice, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.160 they always attack you around Christmas so they can get 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.040 their views up and get that Christmas money. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.480 The body warn kids some white Jesus gifts. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:09.640 But it was always See when I came into the 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:14.280 conscious community, right, I came unexpectedly. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.280 I didn't know I was about to blow. I just blew. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.400 I didn't know nothing about it. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.160 I thought I would just be a psychologist for the 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.280 rest of my life doing my Pan Africanism. But I 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.000 never knew I would become this right. So when I 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:28.120 blew up, there were people who had they niches you had. 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:32.600 People had the mental health niche, the black consciousness niche, 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.720 the Pan African niche, the economics. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.920 Nitch and me I do them all. So a lot 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.720 of people felt like I was stepping on they toes, 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.439 especially the younger guys, and so they would attack me 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.679 every Christmas. And because I'm king called consciousness, I had to, 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.800 you know, beat my chest a little bit and let 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.160 them know from the hood too, you know what I mean? 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.200 But when do you stop that? Like cause? For me 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:54.760 right now? 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.720 And I realized they were doing it on purpose to 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.640 make money. It wasn't even genuine beef. It was strategic beef. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.199 Get his response to get his listen, JA, now I 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.200 don't I don't even respond. 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.600 I know right now. Here's the thing. When you have 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.719 a legitimate issue with someone like you do sometimes when 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.720 you speak on things that's really near and dear, like 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.320 this is what I'm seeing, right or wrong? This is 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.440 what I'm seeing. People can frame that in that way. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.760 So how do we keep it from How do you 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.560 keep it? How you keep the authenticity of Like when 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.600 I say something about Shannon, it ain't the same thing 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.760 that they was doing to me, right, It ain't that 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.040 MESSI trying to steal the audience, trying to steal the 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.520 visibility cloud Chase. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.880 It's very different because like when we spoke about Dion Sanders, 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.080 I made it clear I respect him as a brother, 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.480 you one of my greatest football players. When we spoke 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.760 about Shannon, I said, I think Shannon is a good brother, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.280 a marvelous even being, you know what I mean. So 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.680 my thing is I'm gonna still big you up as 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.280 my brother. It just expressed my difference when they came 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.480 at me at a conscious commit. They said he's a scammer. 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.200 He's still in the fundraise of money. He triggering it 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.640 off in Europe, South Africa, Nigeria. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:01.400 You know. 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.480 Then they said I didn't have no degrees, right, he 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.760 made up all the degrees. He ain't related to Frederick Douglas. 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.640 I mean, anything you can think of. They were trying 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.440 to assassinate my character cleanly. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.960 You know. So it's completely different. Do you Is there 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.440 a worthy opponent out there? Not calling names, but I'm saying, 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.800 are there things for you to Yeah? I will respond 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:25.640 to that, like. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.640 I mean, if somebody says something that I think needs 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.280 to be clarified for my supporters and the school donors, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:36.960 that I clarify no matter where it comes. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.240 That's the thing, because it's the brand recognition and awareness 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.400 that they temper with, right, they temper with what people 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.440 know you for. And that's why I'm talking to you 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.120 about this because for me being in the podcast space 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.800 and moving so quick, I find myself in content wars. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.440 What people are like, yo, you dos ain't building none, 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.200 ain't down no bus And watching as you say, I'm 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.560 watching these shots coming, I'm saying, it's almost like I'm 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:06.880 watching the authenticity melt. It's like these dudes don't know me, 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.400 and they saying, what is what's happening? And I've came 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.800 in and got rich from talking. Yes, So it's not 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.000 something that's for debate. You know what I'm saying, And 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.720 I'm building something the conversations I have people honestly enjoying 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.479 this information base. Today we're kicking it, but it's information 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.239 is out of every episode. I feel as though podcasts 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.040 are almost like encyclopedias. You should be able to go 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.120 and grab an episode at any moment and get something 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.640 from that. I feel it's those things are transitioning. All 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:40.400 information will live in some sort of audio form, right, 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.760 and so I try to I'm racing to that. But 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.600 when I see myself in content walls with dudes who 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:50.360 ain't built anything, but they brand temporary. So it's almost 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.040 like it's like them when do I When do I 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.760 really just go? Or when do I just say this 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.280 is let them talk? Keep I experience it is best 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.200 to let it go. You gain nothing by going to 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.960 war with a smaller fish. You gain nothing by going 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:07.800 to war with a smaller fish. And I had to 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.199 learn that what about a bigger fish? Because I got 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.640 big fish at them, I gotten big fish. I'm going 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.000 at it when I got well, let me let me 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.040 rehold on because they'll take that and say I gave 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.119 them props. So let me rephrase that I got people 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:25.280 seasoned fish. I got seasoned fish. That that's after me. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.600 See, even if you got a seasoned fish, if you 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.120 look at it from the art of war, what will 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.639 this cost you in the long run is what you 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.800 gotta look at because that season fish might want to 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.600 go back and forth with you all the time, and 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.440 you're not looking for a long term right beef. Yeah, 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.760 but if you drop out too soon, it'll look like 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.840 you cave to the marshals. So you have to do 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.680 a thorough analysis of how long they gonna draw this out, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.000 how deep they gonna go with it, And do I 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:54.440 even want to entertain it at all? 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:56.800 I used to look at your lives and say I 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.160 wonder to see I thought you was conscious, But see 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.240 at the more I talked you, I know that you 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.120 don't know the money that's floating. I don't. I'm sitting 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.480 back there and telling you, like, yo, dude, you you 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.760 know it's you got six seven pages. They doing a 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.399 million and the day like this is thousands of dollars 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.359 on the day. They yeah, port all the time and 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.480 say you're leaving too much money on it. Yeah and 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.840 so and so. When I look at you, at first 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.119 I thought, I said, yo, these lives are like lost 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.720 leaders for him, almost like at Costco's they they they 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.159 keep the hot dog one p fifty even though they 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.880 losing on the hot dog. It's like, I know when 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.080 you come here, you're gonna get enough to want to 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.080 see what's behind the current or in the rest of 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.240 the store. And so at first I thought you were 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:40.320 using those more like marketing. But when I talk to 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.080 you and yeah, yeah, like Teas was like, Yo, this 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.000 a little bit, come get it now. I never did 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:46.920 it for the money. Man. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.760 Like even now when I go live, I gotta feel it. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.240 My lives ain't even scheduled. It's like you know what 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.640 Eric and Minor caught our sister a blue monkey. Oh 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.600 hell no, I was in Brussels, Belgium. I had to 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.359 go live on that because that touched me. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.119 It is just thought about that. Let's talk about that. 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.280 It speaks to the light skin supremacy complex that we 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.120 still have in the black community, and by light skin supremacy. 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:12.960 I don't mean light skinned people, because you could be 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.520 a dark skinn light skin supremacy just a little more right. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:16.360 Absolutely. 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.840 I know dark skin purple blacks who don't want nobody 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.679 around them except yellow people. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:22.479 You see that. 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.520 So you could be a light skinned supremacist and not 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.359 be light skin. So it's not about light skinned people. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.640 That has nothing to do with it. It's a consciousness, you see. 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.800 And I thought it was wrong, it was bad. I'm 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:33.439 glad they fired her for it. She apologized, but the 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:37.040 apology to me seemed a little bit disingenuous and almost 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.760 like a smack itself. It was kind of it was 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.480 kind of a I didn't like the apology. I don't 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.520 think it was humble at all. But that's the issue 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.399 we got colorism. I think black women have it worse 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:52.200 than black men within the queendom. So we as black men, 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.440 we don't really look at each other's complexion when we 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.920 hanging out, you feel me, We don't care brother brother, right. 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:57.640 But with the. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.320 Sisters, I've noticed sisters will look at the complexion of 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:05.080 the women in their circle, you see, and the women 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.480 in the circle who may not be the complexion they 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:11.280 want can feel that get away from us energy, and 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.120 that can be a dark skin circle or a light 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.880 skin circle, because even though light skin supremacy is more prevalent, 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.840 you have dark skin supremacy who ate light skin people, right, 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:22.960 So it goes both ways, although there's more light skin 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.840 supremacy in dark skinned supremacy. And it's one of those evils, 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.760 one of those psychological residuals from the plantation that I 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.000 don't think we've really stepped on yet. And I don't 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:35.040 think elders have really accepted the role they've played in 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.840 the maintenance of skin color worship, because I still come 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:43.160 across grandparents who make comments about dark skin. I've seen 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.800 grandparents show favoritism even in my own family, to the 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.240 darkers versus the lighters, or the lighters versus the darkest. 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.280 I've seated, you know, I've seen how aunts and uncles 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.480 will favor the light skin and the dark skin. I 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.800 see it in the public schools, and of course the 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.560 educational research shows us to teachers pay more attention to 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.560 the children in the class who are lighter, and so 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:06.320 you could you could go in some school, hold on 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.600 say that again, teachers pay more attention to the children 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:13.000 in their classroom unconsciously who are lighter. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.880 The darker kids get less attention. He's been researched, done, 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:19.919 and its Yeah. You could go to an emotional support 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.159 class and go to the mentally get the class. The 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.760