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Speaker 2: It's very different because like when we spoke about Dion Sanders,

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Speaker 1: You know. So it's completely different. Do you Is there

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Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody says something that I think needs

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Speaker 2: Like even now when I go live, I gotta feel it.

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Speaker 2: My lives ain't even scheduled. It's like you know what

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Speaker 2: it's a football game, as basketball, it's the only way

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00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: he can get his father's attention. And so a lot

434
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: of black going into sports because their father likes sports

435
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: and this is the only way they.

436
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: Can hook there, right, And I wonder why, I mean,

437
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: why do you think black men do that? Like they

438
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: live vicariously through their children in that way, like in

439
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: the in the in the pathway, not just like I

440
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: look you look like me, junior, like they actually say no,

441
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: go do what I couldn't do. Like what is Some

442
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: of it is natural, it's natural. Right, I own a business.

443
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: I want my son to hold one. It's natural. But

444
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: but if my business could become pathological? Right? But my

445
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: bit before you go, because I know you're finna smoke that.

446
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: But my business, for it to even make it that far,

447
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: to be passed to my son, had to be successful.

448
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: So rassing down something successful is one thing, right, But

449
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: to pass down my failure, yeah, yeah, you know what

450
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: I mean. And if you don't redeem me, the child

451
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: feels twice as bad because not only did I fail

452
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: on the football field, my daddy needed me to win

453
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: in order to salvage his self estate. So now the

454
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: child feels twice as low because not only did I fail,

455
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: my daddy needed me to win this so he could

456
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: validate himself. Man, and they put actions to the marijuana smoke.

457
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: You see that, I let my daddy, even though my

458
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 2: daddy might be saying, son, don't worry about it. You

459
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 2: gave it your best. I know needed this it. Now

460
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm feeling less. Stay wow, Now we both feel like

461
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: we ate.

462
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: The females. The women don't go through that dude, do

463
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: they have a version of that? Like, they have a version,

464
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: but it's not as strong because they eat the mother model,

465
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: maybe the model mother, maybe the dancing mother. I've seen

466
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: the dancing mother like where.

467
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: It's there, but it's there, it's not as strong because

468
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: that athlete stall the male egos stronger than the female.

469
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: Right. But here's where it gets interested with our sisters.

470
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of the opposite sometimes where the father needs

471
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: the son to succeed because he didn't, the mother wants

472
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: the daughter to fail because she didn't win. So stay

473
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: like me, stay like me.

474
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: So I see a situation where the mothers are sabotage

475
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: of the daughters on purpose. They love them, they want

476
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: them to do well, but they're having a difficult time

477
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: accepting the fact that when this is all said and done,

478
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: she would have exceeded me.

479
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: And I think that's powerful.

480
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: Oh we got as we got a deep seated mommy daughter,

481
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: a deep seed of mommy cooking.

482
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: Now, oh ma, we cook.

483
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: You got a deep seed to mommy daughter. And I

484
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 2: tell you one of the worst ones. Let's go back

485
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 2: to the light skinned supremacy, when the mother is of

486
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: a lighter hute and she volumes European standards of beauty.

487
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: So she got the fine nose, the fine lips, the

488
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: yellow skin, the wavy hair. But the daughter has very

489
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: strong African centered features and she knows that the mother

490
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: believes beauty is in the way she looks. So by contraindication,

491
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: I'm ugly. And then the mother never does anything. These

492
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: is non verbal people to catch that.

493
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 6: Now verbal that's by in the cases, just to the

494
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 6: example of the energy, Yes.

495
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: By the stundingness she going out with her mom, and

496
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: her mama is all European up those brawls.

497
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: Beautiful sister, but she can't see her beauty right because

498
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: she's judging herself by her mother's standards, which are European.

499
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: Right. Tell you said, yeah, I've seen a lot of

500
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: girls self esteem get destroyed by their mother never validating

501
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: their African center trade and then the mother. I've seen

502
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: and again we're not being critical, we're examining, yes, because

503
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: these are major issues, and then we have to speak

504
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: about this. So so when we did, I've seen because

505
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: cosmetic surgery is being and we're gonna speak about that.

506
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: But I've seen where the mother sometimes because we dealt

507
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: with the man's side. So I'm just trying to figure

508
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: out what the women if they're battling this and where

509
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: it lies at. But I have seen what a mother

510
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: would take herself through around the two a cosmetic surgery

511
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: and by indicators that wears on the child as well.

512
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you know that's how I said, Oh, Mama, thick, Yes,

513
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: And so I ain't thick. I must not be, you know,

514
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: kicking as high as she is or being, you know,

515
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: as beautiful as she is.

516
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: The mother is going to get surgery of any kind,

517
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: whether it's the BBL, whether it's facial reconstruction, whatever it is, breast.

518
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: She gotta have a conversation with her daughters about why,

519
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: because if she dope, the daughters are automatically going to

520
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: assume get in line, Get in line. You were not

521
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: comfortable with yourself. I'm your daughter. I looked exactly how

522
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: you look before you undercause you.

523
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: Don't even look like me no more. When you're gonna

524
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: get all that work and come back home, man, we

525
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: used to look just alike, which means what it is

526
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: a rejection. It is a rejection of your fetal type.

527
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: And in rejecting your fetal type, you reject your children.

528
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: M No, I do want to be clear to you.

529
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: Though I can appreciate the BBL, now I can't. And

530
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why it don't bounce. Now you're

531
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: talking about the cheap poe. See you're talking about the

532
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: cheap banbl doctor, And how you know it don't bouce?

533
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: First of all, how dare you know it don't bouce?

534
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: King call Kanye.

535
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: Lady, listen to me, sisters, please don't do it.

536
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: It looks Hold on, now we got a shirt. Oh no,

537
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: we got two different No, it looked good in the clothes,

538
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: and it might even look good out of the clothes,

539
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: but it does not move organically. A man can tell

540
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: the difference. A man can tell the difference whether you

541
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: fake in the front or fake in the back. We

542
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: can tell the difference because the bounce ain't the thing

543
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: it sounds at all. It's the quality of the BBL

544
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: you experience. So what're dealing with a guy? What're dealing

545
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: with a guy who has experienced a horrible BBL. So

546
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: y'all are getting the side of the story that's not accurate.

547
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm explaining to you that listen, And so I don't

548
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: know where you pulled this one from. But I would

549
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: say get your get another shot at that now more.

550
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: You're wrong about that. I'm all natural. So oh, I

551
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: have saw you with Suki though, sensing right, So shout

552
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: out to my sister Suka, shout out six and Red.

553
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: We gonna talk down all y'all. I'm talking about all y'all.

554
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: I saw you with Suki. Yes, sister Suki and I

555
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: were friends. We conversate on different topics. See, here's my thing,

556
00:29:51,760 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: here's my fact. As conscious as we are, we can't

557
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: be so self righteous that we can't go to where

558
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: someone else is and try to move them from where.

559
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: They are to where we need them to be.

560
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm not the pastor who condemns everyone in the neighborhood

561
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: and never get them to join the church. You see that,

562
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: you have to meet them. She's a very influential woman. Yes,

563
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: if one day she decided to come on over to

564
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: the consciousness movement, everybody who follows her comes right on

565
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: with her. And that's the day that I'm looking at

566
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying.

567
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: So me, I.

568
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: Communicate with anybody, and that's one of the stress of

569
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: doctor Umar. They're not going to feel condemned. Right, I'll

570
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 2: get a brother with a white wife. He'll come over

571
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: with dot I know you see what I got? He

572
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: said it like it's a bad sunwich, just so you

573
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You know, you see what I ordered? Bron,

574
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: They say, you know, but you know, can we still

575
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: of course have a seat my brother, because guess what

576
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: if I cut him off, he'll never go back to

577
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: a system. But if I stay winning, I don't even

578
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: have to talk about his white wife because I'm not

579
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: gonna respect because.

580
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: She's still even big.

581
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: But by allowing him in my space, he's gonna start

582
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: reanalyzing that anyway. And then one day he comes back

583
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: with a beautiful black wing doc I had. I couldn't

584
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: do it no more. Okay, you know what I'm saying.

585
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: So I've noticed in my work through the years just

586
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: exposing people to what's right can lead to a change

587
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: in behavior. I remember back in my Garby days, right,

588
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: and of course I'm still a Garvey. I but back

589
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: in North Philadelphia, got Temple University down the street, University

590
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania, Drexing, and the students would come to the

591
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Garvy meeting and they would say, Marcus Gorvey said, race first,

592
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: put the race first. I can't do that. I love everybody,

593
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: I said. It's not about not loving other people, it's

594
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: about loving yourself. Workt well, I can't do that, No problem.

595
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: Just come to the study group. I did.

596
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: Impressure them kids, and guess what they slowly, one by

597
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: one started joining on their own. Just walk, I'm ready

598
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 2: to sign up. I didn't do nothing, just expose them

599
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: to the truth. You see what I'm saying. So that's

600
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: why I will meet with anybody. I will go anywhere.

601
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: Feel like Christ said in the Bible. I'm not comparing

602
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: myself to Christ where they say, you know, master what

603
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: you go into the house of a thief.

604
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: But he said I go anywhere. Well, I'm invited. That's

605
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: how doctor whumaas.

606
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: I'll go anywhere I'm invited because I know that when

607
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: you are presented with the truth, your soul responds to it,

608
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: and sooner or later, sooner or later, you're gonna have

609
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: to come around as well. Because we as African people,

610
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: we are God's chosen people and therefore we are structured

611
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: to participate in righteousness no matter what. You see what

612
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So when somebody holds up that mirror of

613
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: righteousness to you. Sooner or lady, you're gonna have to

614
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: consider it because that shit nature anyway.

615
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: You know what? And you know I think, like I said, man,

616
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: you're great at this. You're definitely great at this. But

617
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: we didn't get an asser about Suki. We talked about

618
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot. You took me around. I told you we

619
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: were friends, right, right, But okay, So because seeing we're

620
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: coming off the BBL conversation, we're coming off how you

621
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: are not interested in BBL what so well, and I

622
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: don't know if the sister has right, right, but but

623
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: again I'm telling you that the circumstances are the circumstances

624
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: unknown or no right, and so by you being someone

625
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: who is that strong about bbl's right, I'll ask you

626
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: about Suk. And I'm just telling you how we kind

627
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: of got to her anyway, because I don't want it

628
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: to seem like it's just I'd never act right, I wouldn't, right, okay,

629
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: right now, But you've heard some of the things she's

630
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: said about you, right, yeah, all right, So meeting someone

631
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: would a bb A that said some of those things

632
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: about you, meaning that she finds you attractive. Uh, she

633
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: you know certain things that she So I'm saying the meetup,

634
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean, help me understand what's going on there. The

635
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: meetups are professional and platonic. With a with a woman

636
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: that calls you attractive, with a BBL professor or platon

637
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: shut out, I'll leave it at that. Shut out to

638
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Suki with with do you know sex? You're red? Familiar with?

639
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: Sex of Red? I've seen her recently. I never heard

640
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: of her before. Are you familiar with her content? I've

641
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 1: heard the kind of car. I've never heard her rap,

642
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: though I haven't seen the video that's some of the

643
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: kind and I got her coming on soon. So I

644
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: don't want to know you're right, right, right slamder her

645
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: at all. But you know, it's just I was having

646
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: that conversation about about female rap and how, in my opinion,

647
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: they're kind of mimicking what they saw the men do

648
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: in Gangster. I agree with. I don't think that they're

649
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: necessarily created this path. Oftentimes I see them promote a

650
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: lifestyle that they don't even adopt, and it's dangerous, but

651
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: it's dangerous the same way the men done it, And

652
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: so I believe the men really led those women into

653
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: creating that kind of cop I totally agree with you,

654
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: but the men were never held accounta before it right,

655
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: women are being it's the double sting, right, and the

656
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: women again sometimes they get with these guys right, and

657
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: it's like, and this is why I try to give

658
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: grace on the content. But I know it's effective in

659
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: regards to its programming minds. I know that, but I

660
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: try to sometimes because I always try to think put

661
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: myself in someone's shoes like I did with Dion. It's like, yo,

662
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: see out of their lens, right, see out of a

663
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: young girl like six year red with two kids, two

664
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: baby daddies. They both in jail, and I know how

665
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: to rap, and I start rapping like this, and it

666
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: started going. Do I turn that off when I have

667
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: nothing to fall back on? Like how many people will actually,

668
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: at twenty four years old, start getting one hundred thousand

669
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: a show, sixty thousand a show and just turn that off?

670
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: Even if I know I'm not necessarily adopting that lifestyle,

671
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: but it's effective for the family, and I think so

672
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: many of us live in that place, you do, we all?

673
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: That's why I try to give grace, right. I don't

674
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: exempt anyone, but I try to understand the route they'll take.

675
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: And that's why when I look at and Dionna's like him,

676
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: not a finished product, I think that we're on a

677
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: journey and Colorado is just on that list of getting

678
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: where I'm going. And the same with sixy read. It's

679
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: like you get in that position, turn this on and

680
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: it works. I got children? What do I do? What

681
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: would you say to a young girl just rapping in

682
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: kind of content? How does she get out of that?

683
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: I don't think my message would be to the young

684
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: girl wrapping the content. I think my message would be

685
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: to the black community that gave rise to the circumstances

686
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: that put her in a position where she had to

687
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: sing that content. I think one of the things we

688
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: often miss when we talk about accountability responsibility is that

689
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: we felt her recognize that everything we do takes place

690
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: within a culture. It takes place within a community, and

691
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: too often, because we are disorganized, selfish group of people,

692
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: we like to make individuals scapegoat for systemic problem. You

693
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: see that whether it's Sexy Red, whether it's Sister suki Hana,

694
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: whether it's the gangster Rapper, everything takes place within a

695
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: cultural context, right, So what situation was she born in?

696
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: What situation were her parents born in? What did the

697
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: Black church do for her mother? What did the black

698
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: politicians do for her mother? What did the black community

699
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: organizes do for her mother? What can they do well?

700
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: Number One, If it wasn't for the economic desperation, a

701
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: lot of our young people will be making better.

702
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's the point I'm making. It's like, Yo,

703
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: this thing working. Yeah, And she should have never had

704
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: to go there. The reason she had to go there

705
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: is she belongs to a community, the black community, that

706
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: does not feel the need to use its disposable income

707
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: to create financial opportunities for as young people go to

708
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: the streets.

709
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: Right now, our young people are terrorizing our community, and

710
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: it's our fault because we have not created any opportunities

711
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: for them.

712
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: You let me go to a school that miseducate me.

713
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: I get specially educated. I get medicated, I get you

714
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: and our duty adjudicated. I get incarcerated, right, I get

715
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: gang initiated. Right, I get raped, I get molested. I

716
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: got put out on the street by my mind, whatever

717
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: the case may be. And now all that pain that

718
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: the community allowed me to feel I'm going to give

719
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: it back to the community.

720
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: And now you got eleven year olds robbing eighty four

721
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: year olds at the ATM that video that came out

722
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: last week, and maybe want to cry. He looked like

723
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: he was nine years old, robbing someone old enough to

724
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: be his great grandmother. But when we allow our children

725
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: to be raised by social media, we allow our children

726
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: to be raised by the television and not raising them ourselves.

727
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. If you're a black child

728
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: in Nashville, you're a black child and child and Nuga.

729
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: You're a black child in Knoxville, Memphis, where can you

730
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: go if you really need an adult to spend some

731
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: time with you. There's nowhere to go.

732
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: You can go to.

733
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: Church, but you gotta swallow the doctrine before they value

734
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: you first. That's thee how that works. You're not important

735
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 2: in this church until you swallow this doctrine. So where

736
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: can a black child go in America if they need

737
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: an adult to spend some time with them to see that?

738
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: But the PEMP has spent some time with me, the

739
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: drug dealers spend some time with me. They're gonna huse

740
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: me to exploit me, but they gonna spend some time

741
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: with me. We have turned our backs on our children.

742
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: We have not raised them, we have not nurtured them,

743
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: and now the black community is collecting the karmic debt

744
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: that has come from our neglect of our children is

745
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: oven jobs. Build our own schools for our children, and

746
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: create jobs for them. If we never do those two things,

747
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: we never get our young people back. Is your school

748
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: gonna be credited in the state? Yes, Well, remember that

749
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: accreditation is voluntary. State law gives you the right to operate,

750
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: So the state approves you to operate. If you want

751
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: to get accredited. That's voluntary.

752
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: The credited process speaks, doesn't that Isn't that what speaks

753
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: to the workforce?

754
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: No, not necessarily, because you got to remember you got

755
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: children who are homeschooled to college. They've never been to

756
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: a school at all. You see what I'm saying. Even

757
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: in college, you can homeschool college. No, No, homeschooled into college.

758
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: In other words, my child is a same difference. Okay,

759
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.

760
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: They know you're plugging the f DMG instead of the homeschool,

761
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: and it'll be like the same process, absolutely, except we're

762
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: a real school. Versus right.

763
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: Home school is a decentralized form of education. It's not

764
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: the equivalent of private school, charter school, public.

765
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: School, you see. It's homeschooling. It's more of an activity

766
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: than an institution, you see. But accreditation is voluntary. So

767
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: if I wanted to go to.

768
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: Delaware State Accredited Accreditation Bureau, I can have them come

769
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: in look at all our paperwork, curriculum, teaching bubba bum

770
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: and they would decide if they want to credit us

771
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: or not. Now, for me, as a Pan Africanist, I

772
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: would never do that because I don't need white people

773
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: to tell me how to teach black kids. So I'll

774
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: never be doing that. Right if the state required it,

775
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: we would do it, you feel me.

776
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: But I would not voluntarily go to white people and

777
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: ask them how well am I doing teaching black kids?

778
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 1: How much of your money from fundraising do you think

779
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: came from white people? Any? Zero? Zero dollars? Ye? That

780
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: it might have been a couple anonymous night boots fit

781
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: a dollar or two, probably, right?

782
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: But am I aware? Am I consciously aware of re

783
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: seeing a donation from a white person?

784
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: No? So ooh this is good? So a white person

785
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: can't give you five million dollars, say doctor mar been

786
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: a fan of use is twenty twelve. I see what

787
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: you got going on? Go get that school, white man,

788
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about whitest other white. I don't think I

789
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: could take it. Okay, So the mission ain't that important there? No,

790
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: it is? Okay? How important is the mission when you

791
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: can't take the money? Nothing? I didn't speak to any

792
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: stipulations tied to it. I said this will get your

793
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: school up and running tomorrow, and you denied it. And

794
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: a mistake you just made is you said, a white

795
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: person is going to give doctor Umar five million dollars

796
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: with no stipulation? Yeah, what went in his auditorial beliefs? No? Listen,

797
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm how is that worth clapping? The white people don't

798
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: get that kind of money without no stipulations. Brother, they

799
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: don't give that kind of old mar give geta honestly,

800
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. But what's that worth clapping about? Yes,

801
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: all you said was yes, all you're saying, look and

802
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: I like this gonna play well on you too. But

803
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: all you said was all you said was what the

804
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: hell did you?

805
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 5: Jay?

806
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: It didn't even stick? What did you? Here's the question

807
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: you're missing that's what it was. You're missing. Okay, so

808
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: listen why I'm telling you you're missing the spirit? Go ahead,

809
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: white man, give me five million, right, I build the

810
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: school with five million. Y'all come to the grand opening,

811
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: y'all gonna be happy, y'all going to celebrate. But when

812
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: you go home, in the back of your mind, you're

813
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: still saying white people did this for us. Again, do

814
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: you understand? Ain't nobody saying that, yes, yes, these people, Yes,

815
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: it speaks it speaking of the spirit. Ain't nobody even

816
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: if it speaks to the spirit.

817
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: No, go ahead, go ahead, hear me out, good brother,

818
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: it speaks to the spirit.

819
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: You know why ninety percent of all black institutions are

820
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: financed or owned by white people? Don't even know that?

821
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: Yes we do. Most people don't. Most people this crowd

822
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: made because this is a college. He I be seeing time.

823
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: Most people don't even think of it like that, right.

824
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, if the mission is more

825
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: important than you, how you feel, how you think, what

826
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I my emotions, then why isn't this money? Even if

827
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: they kill me about it, even if they but school

828
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: get to go, get up and run it. I just

829
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: don't understand that. Have you ever heard this statement? The

830
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: journey is just as important as the destination. Yeah, how

831
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: we get the school done is just as important as

832
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: getting the school done.

833
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. How do I open

834
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: up a school called Frederick Douglas Marcus Golfy Academy, two

835
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: black men who believed in self determination, but I let

836
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: a white man build the school for me? How do

837
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: I tell the boys that you can do this on

838
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: your own. You don't need white people, you don't need

839
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: nobody but your own community. How can I say that?

840
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: Do you truly believe that? Absolutely? Do you think that?

841
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: Do you truly believe that it'll happen off the backs

842
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: of only us? It already has. It's not open yet,

843
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: so it helst happen. Yeah, well it will be once

844
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: we get the certificate of occupacy, but I already had. Yeah.

845
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, but so so you you've done this?

846
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: You so this got to be the first school without

847
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: white involvement, definitely in one hundred years since Marcus gone,

848
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: and probably the first ever that was financed exclusively by

849
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: the African diaspora. Every Black community on Earth donated to FDM.

850
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: When did you when did you globalize your your your

851
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: your movement, because it wasn't that way at first.

852
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: No.

853
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: I was always Pan African and so it was always

854
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: global It just it just took a while for my

855
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: message to get around to the camp.

856
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: I feel like you started at some point going super

857
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Pan Africa, like I thought you was always Hey, no,

858
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: hell no, no, I'm saying I ain't speaking about in

859
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: your spirit. I'm speaking about in your communication. The message

860
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: was always it was always so, even on those DVDs.

861
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: Now now every time I see you talk, I hear

862
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: Pan African always from the Okay, so I must have

863
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: missed that. It seemed like if they started it evolved

864
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: it been Pan Africa this time. I've always wanted to

865
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: ask you where do you get this from? And I'm

866
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna do a quick doctor Jumar impression, all right, and

867
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me where you got this from.

868
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: So you will be on live right say doctor Umar's online,

869
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: and it'll be like, uh, good morning brothers and sisters.

870
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: You know today we will make sure that we get

871
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: everything we need to get done. Good morning today, brothers

872
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: and sisters. Good morning today, brothers and sisters. Good morning today, brothers.

873
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: You'll give them four or five with him three of them. Okay,

874
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: what is that is that you thinking? Is that you?

875
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: What is that I do that? Because I've adopted that,

876
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: I want you to know. Yeah, effective, it's effective. The

877
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: brain is the creature of repetition. Yes, not truth, repetition, Yes, right, program.

878
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: I say it three times the points I really want

879
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: them to get. I repeated three times, because repetition is

880
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: how you condition the unconscious, so once to understand, a

881
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: second time to understand, and the third time the over

882
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 1: I knew it was I knew that wasn't you stumbled.

883
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: I knew it was something there because I'm like, yo,

884
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: he just nah, I know him, and we speaking, we

885
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: don't really have to. So I'm saying, when you do that,

886
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: I said, oh, it's technique. There's something that Who did

887
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: you study in regards to speaking, because speaking is such

888
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: a talent that people don't really understand. They don't even

889
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: know how hard this is, fus and just being doing it.

890
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: Who did you study?

891
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: I never really studied anyone, I guess, and directly Garby

892
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: and Douglas would be the main too, obviously, but most

893
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: of our leaders were great orators, you know. So I've

894
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: listened to all of them, but I never patterned myself

895
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: after anyone or anything like that.

896
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It just came out. You

897
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: took nothing from any of you. You took technique. You

898
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: ain't took no technique from no one if it was

899
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: any tech. Because see you got the you got the pointing,

900
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: you got you bro, I'm high level. Listen, I'm this

901
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: is how I make money. So I'm high level examining

902
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: speakers right the point the everything. I'm watching it all.

903
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, this is a developed thing. This isn't

904
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: something you can walk off the porch with. So I

905
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: wonder I think some of us are born with it.

906
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: Though I think some of us are born with it.

907
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: I think I think the great ones like Garvey Douglas,

908
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: doctor King. You can't teach that, doc can nurture it.

909
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: I ain't saying teach, and that's what I mean, like,

910
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: you can't teach it. I'm not saying teach.

911
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: It because teaching people how to speak, yes, but not

912
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: on this level. Right. So I'm saying when i'm when

913
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm peeping what you're doing, Understand I've already identified that

914
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm watching the best speakers in the world,

915
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: because this is how I make this money, right, So

916
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 1: I ain't even talking about the rest of those guys.

917
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying the highest level of communication, right you the

918
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: phara cons the people that I look in and say, oh,

919
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: all right, let's pull a notepad. I'll get some of

920
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: their technique. Because there's there's brough control, there's pausing, there's repeating,

921
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: there's there's face. You know, there's so much this happening.

922
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering who deposited anything.

923
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: The only technique that I'm conscious of having borrowed from

924
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: my predecessors is the need to pause occasionally. Yet I'll

925
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: just go yeah, and I won't stop.

926
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: So I consciously try to remember to Paul yes. And

927
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: that's probably more of a Frederick Douglass thing yet, because

928
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: people have to take it in even with me, like see,

929
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: because even with me, when you try to get into

930
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: that vibe, you know, it's like, right, at some point,

931
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: I gotta start talking to you like you listening, you

932
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and some people they just talking.

933
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: You got to talk to somebody like they're listening. You know.

934
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I need emphasis on someth I need to

935
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: lay there for that. Like even in our communication to

936
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: the today, you will say something like for your black liberation,

937
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: and you'll just let that live. And I think those techniques.

938
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that people are watching

939
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: those things and you're you're pouring into people indirectly just by.

940
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: You know spiritually, right, is about five different major spiritual gifts.

941
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: You have your clear cognizance. That's when information from the

942
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: universe is downloaded automatically.

943
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: Into your mind. You know it, but you don't know

944
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: when you learned it. That's clear cognizance. When I speak,

945
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: not all the time, but sometimes clear cognizance will take

946
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: over and I'm saying things about things I've never learned nowhere,

947
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: so it's coming directly from the ancestors. And I'll go

948
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: back and look at a clip and say, how did

949
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: I say that?

950
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: And I didn't even know that?

951
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: So this sometimes you get into a zone yeah, where

952
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: it's not even your Oh man, I.

953
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: Love those zones, man, them zones there when if I

954
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: can get in a pocket on these boards, it's nothing

955
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: like it, That's what I'm saying. It's not all the time.

956
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: It's magic and you feel it as a speaker as

957
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: someone you say, you know where you're heah, I got

958
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 1: it in my bag.

959
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 6: I'm notopping like take a break. We ain't taking a

960
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 6: break all week a. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

961
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: And the one thing I learned about public speaking, public

962
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: speaking taught me more than anything else. We have no

963
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: control over the outcome. Because I walk into a certain lecture,

964
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna tear this up the night. It's

965
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: the right sound, right building, write this, It'll be a

966
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: regular electure. And then I'll go somewhere where I'm like, Okay,

967
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a regular little talk. It's my classics.

968
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: All of my classics were unintentional.

969
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: Everyone, the ones that people love. I'm like, damn, I

970
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: never even thought that night was gonna be special. And

971
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: it's never up to us.

972
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is important for the young concert creators

973
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: because they're watching us. But here's the thing too. As

974
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm going further than FIRSD, I just didn't invest fists

975
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: for twenty thousand people, right, And so when you come

976
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: out and it's that many people, you look around like

977
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: what is this right? And it's like you blow a

978
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: circuit or you blow a fuse. You get it back.

979
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: But for a brief second, it's almost like what like June,

980
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: just like everything you was thinking of your thought process,

981
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: but it eventually comes it eventually comes back. Do you

982
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: find yourself ever being in that mode? Because you speak

983
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: so much now, I don't think you may find yourself in.

984
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: For me, the best speech is the first time they

985
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: saw you, because it's no expectations. You feel me and

986
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 2: I'm gona like I'm going to Cameroon, Africa next week. Right,

987
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: I was in Brussels, Belgium last week. I never been

988
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: to Brussels, so there's no pressure because I know they

989
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: know me from social media, but they never felt me

990
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: in the person. Right, This is no pressure.

991
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 3: Right.

992
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: You know what the pressure is. When I've been in

993
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: Nash Little ten times and y'all came back to see

994
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: me that eleven, that's pressure because y'all know what to expect.

995
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: Y'all seated, and I gotta give y'all a new, fresh

996
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: message and be even more dynamic I was the previous

997
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: nine time. So some people will say the more you

998
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: come back to a city, the easier. Not for me,

999
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: it's the harder.

1000
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: You feel, Like a place like Chicago, where I spend

1001
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: a lot New York, where I spend a lot.

1002
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: It's pressure because not only do I gotta have a

1003
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: new message, I got to grab you every time better

1004
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: than I did the last and what I'm trying to

1005
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: do right because I'm a sender so fast, So I'm

1006
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: trying to figure out when now I'm conscious about this

1007
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: as I'm getting because it's so much money on the

1008
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: line and anybody watching me. I got millions of people

1009
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: watch I need y'all to know this. Pay attention to

1010
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing right now. Man, I'm finding myself trying

1011
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: to understand when I get those zones, I literally try

1012
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: to backtrack what that day was, Like, did I place

1013
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: myself there? Was it something I done before the show?

1014
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: Was it? Even though I know it's probably not because

1015
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: it never re enacts itself, But it's like, I'm conscious

1016
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: on trying to grab that or create that environment that

1017
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: puts me. Have you found anything like that for you?

1018
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: That something that puts you into a like me, I

1019
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: went back the other day and I'm giving you a

1020
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: second before you came. I'm like, I'm trying to fish

1021
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: what what is that that gets my brain like? Because

1022
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: sometimes do my brain and go and it's like I'm

1023
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 1: on another it's another frequency. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1024
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you. I believe when you

1025
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: get to a certain level within your spiritual development myself included,

1026
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: you'll be able to activate it at will. The reason

1027
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: we can't actively at will yet we not at that

1028
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: frequency yet. Follow what I'm saying. When you get to

1029
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: that frequency, you'll be able to activate it at will.

1030
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: That zone.

1031
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the athlete too, where they shoot a shot

1032
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: and can miss. Right for fobb me be in that zone. Yes,

1033
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: you went to a hot you went into your super

1034
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: conscious mind. Yes, right, But we have to get there

1035
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: through the spiritual door. Is there anything that gets you there?

1036
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: Like I've seen you.

1037
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: Is there anybody that maybe they argue with you and

1038
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: they play who think he? Or they insult your intelligence

1039
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: or they not?

1040
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: Because it's all based on divine timing, is right. So

1041
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: from an African perspective, we exist in two worlds. We

1042
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: exist in the physical and we exist in the spiritual.

1043
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 2: At the same time, we can't see what's happening.

1044
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: In the spiritual. It could have been within the spiritual

1045
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: design for this day for you to access your God consciousness.

1046
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: For that you follow what I'm saying, because remember, we

1047
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: got our own plans. Our ancestors got a plan too,

1048
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: and then God got a plan too. So we think

1049
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: that when we wake up, we're just living our life

1050
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: as we want. No, your ancestors got a hand in it,

1051
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: because you are a reincarnation of them. And then the

1052
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: most high the universe has a design of its own.

1053
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: And this is why when you hear like doctor King

1054
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: say I want to do God's will, you got.

1055
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: To tap into that. You got to tap into that.

1056
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: The highest form of expression is when what you want

1057
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: is the exact same thing God wants you. That's divine

1058
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: consciousness and that's the purpose of life. And that's why

1059
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: I think that we as black people never get to

1060
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: where we see supposed to be brothers and sisters until

1061
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: we divorce ourselves from all of this European materialism that

1062
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: we swallowed up because we have become more materialistic than

1063
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: the Caucasian. We are literally worshiping money, and there's no

1064
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: why would God help us get free, really help us

1065
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 2: take back over the world as we once rented. If

1066
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: all we gonna do is replicate European culture, does that

1067
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: make any.

1068
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: Sense to you.

1069
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Speaker 2: God is not gonna help you. Why would he get

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Speaker 2: and say, Okay, my children, you ready, let me put

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Speaker 1: This is what we do on this side. So I

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Speaker 1: want to thank each and every one of you guys

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: My analytics tell me that a high percentage of you

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Speaker 1: What I do is I interact with the audience. They're

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Speaker 1: like right now I'm playing uh UFC and I hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed this conversation. Part three we get into doctor

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Speaker 1: Umar and Fara Khan. I felt that it was time

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Speaker 1: about fundraising. There's been a lot of conversation surrounding crowdfunding.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Umar was probably one of the first ones that

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Speaker 1: that that took that leap of faith as it portased

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Speaker 1: the crowdfunding. So we had a very very very interesting

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Speaker 1: conversation about that and that'll be coming for this Part

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Speaker 1: three Live debate Doctor Lumar Johnson Big Loan live from

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Speaker 1: TSU again.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Just enjoyed it. Just enjoyed it. Hope you did too, right,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, have a good day. Peace