1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Please, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: Radio living the dream once again here on a fabulous 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Fox Sports Saturday. We're broadcasting live from the 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: tai Iraq dot Com studios. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 3: Ti iraq dot com. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna help get you there and unmatt selection fast 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: free shipping, Free road has a protection over ten thousand 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: recommended installers. Tie iraq dot com the way tire buying 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: should be Well. Last Saturday, I did something that I 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: so rarely do. I actually took a Saturday off I know, 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: and the reason being I was at my daughter's college 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: graduation from Loyola Marymount and it was a wonderful graduation ceremony. 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 3: I want to thank carry for hanging with you. How 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: did that go? 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: I heard you, guy, I heard you. Guys did not 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: two eyes? He decided to double up. 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: We did. We ended up doing four hours together. 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm not like you that can just 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: put a show together on the fly. 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: So I actually prepped a show. No, yeah, no, I 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: I can't do you, guys. 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: Steve Barvis does everything on the fly in the most 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 4: magical way. You know, you would not imagine that he 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 4: just walks in here just knowing already what he wants 25 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: to do, nothing written down, and I'm just along for 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: the ride. 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: Well I can't do that, see, but that always puts 28 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: all my partners in a very challenging situations. So most 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: people that I work with, once they get it, they 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: just figured it out. Now, you were natural because obviously 31 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: you've been part of the Sunday so you know now 32 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: this operates. But yeah, I mean I put my partners 33 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: to a challenge. Guess we're not going to take phone calls, 34 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: you know, we will have some guests on none of that. 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: We're just going to be talking about sports. We got 36 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: a lot of things going on right now in the 37 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: sports where we'll keep our eye on this matchup right now. 38 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: Series tied at one apiece Dallas and Oklahoma City. Oklahoma 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: City came into the series on a roll, won the 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: first game easily, but then Dallas pulls the upset on 41 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: the road and now Dallas has a five point lead. 42 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: We're under thirty seconds to go right now and the 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: clock is running down. I don't know what OKAC is thinking. 44 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: They're down five twenty seconds to go. 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, this game was sloppy to start, Like the first half. 46 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on here. It was sloppy. 47 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: But luckily for both teams, they were both sloppy. So 48 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: that's why it's still a close game because they both 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: made just small little mental mistakes. They weren't taking care 50 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: of the ball. 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: They everybody, well, Dodg, you just lost the ball right there. Unbelievable. 52 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: Okayc with a chance homegun gets fouled going to the 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: hoop right there, So okase not out of this. I 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: like what Jason Kidd said after getting blown out of 55 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: that first game, like we got to go back to 56 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: the drawing board. That was the sign of a not 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: only one of the great players of all time Hall 58 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: of Famer, but an experienced coach. And then Dallas came 59 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: back with the road victory in Game two, and now 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: with ten seconds to go, Dallas with the five point lead, 61 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: pretty much in the driver's seat. 62 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: Have you been excited about. 63 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Any of these series that we have now we're now 64 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: down to the conference semi finals. 65 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be real. 66 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: The Western Conference has been more exciting, yes, than the 67 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: Eastern Conference for sure. And even though there have been blowouts. 68 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: You know, we saw Minnesota just kind of handle Denver, 69 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 4: but Denver has bounced back. They're back in it. So 70 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 4: despite the blowouts, the Western Conference to me has been 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 4: really really fun to watch, and even the Eastern Conference, 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: like watching the Magic just flourish, you know against the Calves. Now, 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 4: who I don't see flourishing are the Celtics. 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: Like the Celtics, I watched them. 75 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: Don't worry about the Celtics. 76 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I know the Celtics looked ugly in that 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: second game, but they did the same thing against Miami 78 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: and then they blew them out three straight games. 79 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: Right, but Miami, they should have never lost to Miami 80 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: without Jimmy Butler. Jimmy was not even playing. That they 81 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: should have been embarrassed about. But they do this. They 82 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: let teams that they should not let in. They let 83 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: them get in and they get crushed at home. 84 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: This isn't new. 85 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: And they're playing without christophs porzingis I instead of trying 86 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: to fine tune things and not let these big. 87 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: Blowouts happening at home. It's just like y'all do this 88 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: every year every year. 89 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: All right. 90 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: So Homger made a couple of free throws, so Dallas's 91 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: lead is now three with seven point two seconds to go. Immediately, 92 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: they fell Doncic on the inbound pass, So as long 93 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 2: as he knocks down free throws. 94 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's all banged up, his knee, his ankle, and 95 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 4: not that you know, everybody is banged up, but he's 96 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: banged up. 97 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: Well, that's the price you pay when you're handling the 98 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: ball ninety nine percent of. 99 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: The time for your team. 100 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: He made the first free throw. That was a big 101 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: one right there. So we'll keep our eye on this 102 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: Mavericks Thunder game. And then again the series that is 103 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: surprisingly tied at one game a piece Celtics and the Cavs. 104 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: That game's going to be tipping off here in a 105 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: little bit. So we'll keep you update on what's going 106 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: on with these NBA playoffs. But I mean, you know, 107 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to these these series, and I'm looking at 108 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: OKAC and I'm looking at Minnesota and the question is 109 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: how real are they? By the way, doncas just missed 110 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: the second free throw. Unfortunately for OKC the clock's running 111 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: out and that is game. Yes, it is over. Dallas 112 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: has now taken a two to one series lead, holding 113 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: home court, beating Oklahoma City one oh five to one 114 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: oh one. So then you watch Minnesota go on the road, 115 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: not just beat Denver twice on the road, blow. 116 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Them out, them out, yeah. 117 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: And you're just suddenly looking at Denver like, wow, we 118 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 2: said that Denver did not look all that great despite 119 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: the fact that they won that series against the Lakers. 120 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: Remember they trailed all five of those games at halftime, 121 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: and then you get blown out twice at home. 122 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: They're dead. 123 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, for a second you thought they were. 124 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: They're dead. 125 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they go into Minnesota and just annihilate 126 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: and make a fool out of us, Timberwolves. You know 127 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: who I give a lot of credit to is Malone 128 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: because I think as a coach and you you can 129 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: tell when a coach has been with a team and 130 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: a group of players for an extended period of time, 131 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: he knows how to connect with that team. 132 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: It wasn't gonna be a panic mode, all right. 133 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: We not only lost, we lost ugly, and we know 134 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: we can play better. And basically, I'm sure he said 135 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: going into Game three, I've been on you guys all 136 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: season long, this idea of just showing up when we 137 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: sort of want to show up because we're champions. It's 138 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: great to walk onto a court with a little bit 139 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: of arrogance a little swagger, but you got to play 140 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 2: and we don't match up well. 141 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: Their strength matches with our strength. 142 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: Our side advantage which we were able to take advantage 143 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: of against the Lakers does not play out when they 144 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: got Karl Anthony Townsend go Bear in the middle, so 145 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: we don't have that same advantage. But for them to 146 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: come out on the road in Game three and just 147 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: annihilate the Timberwolves and obviously get themselves back into the series, 148 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: to me, gets down to the impact that a coach 149 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: has when you hold a team together, when they've been 150 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: through the wars together. There wasn't any panic. We can 151 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: get this thing done. Let's just get back to playing 152 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: our game. Let's not worry about what they're doing. Let's 153 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: worry about what we're doing. So it'll be interesting, obviously 154 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: as they get ready for Game four in Minnesota. 155 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: All season, I think Denver looked like great. They were 156 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 4: just going through the motions all season. Yet they were 157 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: always like fighting for first play second place. They were 158 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: always at the top. But you felt like they were 159 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: going through the motions. You felt like they could do 160 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: a little bit more, and they managed to take down 161 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: the Lakers those first two games, especially the second one 162 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: without Rudy Gobert, you were just like, oh my goodness, 163 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: what maybe this is not the team that we thought 164 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: all of a sudden. 165 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: You're right. 166 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: Give it to the coaching staff for making adjustments, for 167 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: saying whatever it is that they said, because they completely 168 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: turned it around. Now let's are we gonna talk about 169 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: the fact that Jamal Murray should not have been playing 170 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: that game because he should not have been playing that game, 171 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: and why he should have been suspended. 172 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh, come on, you're gonna suspend people in the playoffs. 173 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: I just need I need you to be consistent, that's all. 174 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: Okay, let's say sick like Draymond Green. Remember when he 175 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: got suspended for kicking Lebron and that you know what, yes, yeah, yeah, 176 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: and he got suspended. Yeah, but he was a multi 177 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: time offender. 178 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: Agreed, And so is Patrick Beverley. And now that suspension 179 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: was also a joke. 180 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Jamal. 181 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: The thing is like, Jamal Murray threw something towards a 182 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: referee through something where someone could have slipped. And if 183 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: we're just gonna pretend like that's not a big deal. 184 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: What I'm afraid of is that other players are gonna 185 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: be like, Okay, so I can throw something and it's 186 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: gonna be Okay. 187 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: That's what I'm afraid of that this is just gonna. 188 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: Push the boundaries for other players watching paying attention. You 189 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 4: get Patrick Beverley four okay, cool, cool, repeat defender Jamal 190 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: Murray not an All Star, technically not an All Star, 191 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: but he is. 192 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: We know he is for the Denver Nuggets and gets nothing. 193 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: If I'm a player, I'm just paying attention to that, 194 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 4: and maybe I'm gonna push the boundary. 195 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: All right, So let's let's assume for a second here 196 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: that the league did not do anything for Murray because 197 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: they want to say with Denver, and I'm thinking to myself, 198 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: why right. I mean Denver a year ago in their 199 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: matchup against the Heat, that series did not pull numbers. Yeah, 200 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: that series was down significantly from the previous year. 201 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: When he had the Celtics and the Warriors. 202 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: So Denver, I've said this before the playoffs and even 203 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: began the Denver in a lot of ways is like 204 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: San Antonio was back in the hey day with Tim 205 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: Duncan and Tony Parker and Mona Genobili. 206 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: They didn't pull numbers. No, you know, in a. 207 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: Lot of ways, Jokic is like Tim Duncan, the big fundamental. 208 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: He's not an exciting player. He's admired because he knows 209 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: how to play the game. His basketball IQ's off the charts, 210 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: but it's not like he's. 211 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: A must watch. 212 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they pull the numbers at home. 213 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So again I don't look at Denver as a 214 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: team that the league would be saying, oh, we have 215 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: got to get Denver into the NBA Finals again. If honestly, 216 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: if I were the league right now, I would be 217 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: far more favor of seeing the Timberwolves. Yeah, match up 218 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: against like the Boston Celtics, and I would see Denver back. 219 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: Again, I don't disagree, And it is funny that people 220 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: you know may have pushed that idea that, oh, it's 221 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: because they're protecting the Nuggets, but it does in reality, 222 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: it doesn't help that theory that there is a lot 223 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: of scriptedness happening when it comes to sports. It does 224 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 4: not help those people pushing that agenda. When you don't 225 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 4: suspend Jamal Murray just because I get it, it's Game three, 226 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 4: they're the defending champions, but it does not help that agenda. 227 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 4: I just think he should have because it was it 228 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 4: was as clear as day that you threw something in. 229 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: The direction of the referee on the court. 230 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: Maybe he just had bad a maybe, but not in 231 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: the playoffs. That's that's the argument, Murray. All he always 232 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: seems to be on target in the postseason. 233 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and especially if Anthony Davis is guarding him exactly. 234 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: All right. 235 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: So again, the MAVs have taken a two one seriously 236 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: with their win OVERKC, and now we get ready for 237 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: the Celtics and Cavaliers, two games every day in the 238 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: NBA in these playoffs. 239 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: All right. 240 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: Coming up on the other side, one of. 241 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: The most talked about non sports sports related events in 242 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: recent memory, and that was the roast of Tom Brady 243 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: and why this event did not play out as a 244 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: lot of people thought it would. 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We 261 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: are live from the tai Iraq dot com studios. And 262 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: apparently Montsey, a very unforgivable thing has just happened in 263 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. 264 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 4: I know, I'm upset about it, and I was afraid 265 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: I was gonna jinx it, but I'm not jinxing anything 266 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: if this is correct. 267 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Max Freed. 268 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: Max Freed of the Atlanta Braves had a no hitter 269 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: through seven innings on the road against the Mets. Brace 270 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: lead this game three to nothing, and they took Fred 271 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: out of the game. So he had one hundred and 272 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: nine pitches, which in this day and ages, a lot 273 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: of pitches. 274 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't care you leave them in there. 275 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 2: And they pulled Freed from the game, and then is 276 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: in right now, and relieve he just walked the first batter. 277 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: The no hitters intact see, I don't even count combined 278 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: no hitters. 279 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: I agree, I don't count them. 280 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 7: Then. 281 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: You know, years ago, it used to be if you 282 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: had a no hitter through nine innings and then lost 283 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 2: the no hitter in extra innings, they still gave you 284 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: credit for a no hitter with that because you went 285 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: nine inns. 286 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 8: I'm with that. 287 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: Then, I don't know. This was maybe fifteen twenty years ago. 288 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: They took all of those off the books. It has 289 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 2: to be at least nine innings, and it has to 290 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: be a complete a no hitter. At that time, there 291 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: had only been one combined no hitter that I had 292 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: ever seen before, and it was like eight and two 293 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: thirds and then somebody came in for the last out 294 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: in a one run game. Now you look at these, 295 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: there's been as many as six pitchers combined on a 296 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: no hitter. 297 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: That is not a no hitter. A no hitter is 298 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: one one pitcher that throws a complete game nine innings 299 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: are beyond, and that's a no hitter. 300 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: I agree. 301 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: It's so funny when you'd get six pitchers to do 302 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: a combine no hitter. 303 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: What about when the doctors seven any perfect? 304 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: Kay, don't give me sorry, now, one I thought you 305 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: were talking about the dots. There's recent combine no iteder 306 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 4: that they did. How about when they pulled kersh up 307 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: a perfect game? 308 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 309 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: No, why why? 310 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 4: But I've been against you know, all of this, the 311 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: keeping pitch count, the science behind it. 312 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: Stop. Just let them play now. 313 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: If Max Freed said, hey, I'm not feeling it like okay, 314 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: then maybe then maybe. But I feel like, if you 315 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 4: have thrown seven innings of no hits, you want. 316 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: To stay out there. I would want to stay out there. 317 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: The idea of these pitchers arms will fall off. I've 318 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: said this before. Nolan Ryan, back in his heyday, who 319 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: threw harder than anyone in the history of baseball. He 320 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: had a game in which he threw over two hundred pitches, 321 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: two hundred pitches in a single game, and you know what, 322 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: twenty years later he was still pitching in the major 323 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: leagues and still throwing ninety five plus. 324 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like Sandy Kofax, you know also, Yeah, would 325 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: throw until basically his arm was falling off. 326 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: And this is the question. 327 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: It's like, would you want to have a successful maybe 328 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 4: eight to ten year career or do you want to 329 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: preserve your arm? And then you pitch for fifteen years, 330 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: I would want eight years of just dominance. 331 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: This really annoys me, all right, So anyway, and then 332 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: it's gets the first out in the eighth inning against Mets. 333 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: I guess we're five outs away from a combined no hit. 334 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: You know, a man is only going to pitch the 335 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: eighth if he gets through it with no hits, and 336 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: then they'll bring in a ninth dinner. 337 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: All right, So that's going on right now between the 338 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: Braves and Mets. 339 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: All right, I want to bring up this roast with 340 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: Tom Brady that's getting all this notoriety behind the scenes, 341 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: Belichick and Bob krap not getting along and everything else. 342 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: But I want to zero in on Tom Brady for 343 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: a second year. In fact, I want to talk about 344 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: roast in general. Now I'm on one of these old 345 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: timers that remembers like the Dean Martin roast. They now 346 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: run commercials. You can get these sets, and these were 347 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: season comedians and they used to do this on a 348 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: regular basis and they just rotate you know who they're roasting. 349 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: It was basically the same twenty or so comedians back 350 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: in the day. But nowadays they want to do these roasts. 351 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: Once you know Jeff Ross is there, it's sort of 352 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: got that stamp of okay. 353 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: This is a legitimate roast. 354 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: So I'm watching Tom Brady through this thing, and I'm 355 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: thinking to myself because there were times when he looked 356 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: uncomfortable a little bit, and here's the thing. 357 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: About a roast, and this is okay, so we want 358 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: to roast you. 359 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: First of all, if you are highly successful or famous 360 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: at whatever it is you do, a part of getting 361 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: to that level is ego. Nobody is that successful and 362 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: whatever they do unless you've got a raging ego, because 363 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: otherwise you don't have the desire to get to that 364 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: level unless you need to feed the ego. On the 365 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: other side of it is why do you have such 366 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: a big ego because you have such incredible insecurities. Overwhelming 367 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: insecurities often lead to overwhelming egos. So your insecurities drive 368 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: your ego to constantly feed that ego because you still 369 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: have insecurities. Tom Brady is a prime example of this. 370 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: Never got over the fact that he was a six 371 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: round draft pick. It was that insecurity that continue to 372 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: drive him to achieve what he did in his amazing 373 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: football career. So when you go to these roasts and 374 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 2: we see it time and again. You're like, well, he's 375 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: so big, he'll be fine. And you sit there and 376 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: they start taking shots at you and your loved ones 377 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: and your friends, and all of a sudden you think, well, 378 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: he doesn't have to worry. 379 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: He's the goat, he's Tom Brady. 380 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: But those insecurey you know how it is when somebody 381 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: is critical of you. Sometimes you can just dismiss it 382 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: because it just miss missfires. But it's every once in 383 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: a while somebody says something critical of you. 384 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: And it hits. 385 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: It hits a nerve. 386 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: It hits a nerve where that insecurity or something about 387 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: something in you it triggered, is triggered. I mean they 388 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: were merciless against Gazelle. I mean it was funny what 389 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: but he you know, he was He was like a 390 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: mannequin sitting there. Yes, with all the shots they were 391 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 2: taking as Gazelle. But the one that got. 392 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: Him upset with the Bob Kraft one with Jeff Ross 393 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: brought up the massage situation, and I mean, what's Tom 394 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: Brady doing? I thought he was gonna slap it? What 395 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: is he will? Smith's he gonna don't ever mentions again, 396 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: I mean, what what was that about? I mean drops 397 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: an s bom on Jeff Ross. Ross was looking at 398 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: him like, dude, you know where you are? 399 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that was a bit of a weird moment. 400 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: Clearly that was something Maybe it seemed as though that 401 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 4: was something that was agreed upon before the roast, right, 402 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 4: and that it really wasn't supposed. 403 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: To go down. That's how I took that. 404 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, this was maybe discussed that we 405 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 4: weren't gonna touch this subject. 406 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: But with the roast, there's no rules, like well not. 407 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: With Jeff Ross. 408 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: Know that's the rules of the roast. There are no rules. 409 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: If you decide to have a roast, anything is on 410 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: the table, and you cannot assume that they're not gonna 411 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: dig deep and try and hurt you. Well, not pars 412 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: out the word, but trigger you, make you flinch, make 413 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: you feel because people want to be tough with roast. 414 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 4: So when you hear, oh I get to roast someone, 415 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: your goal is to make them squirm, you know, that 416 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: is the goal, not to make you laugh, well, maybe 417 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: laughing the scorm at the same time, but there is 418 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: an ultimate goal here. 419 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: But everything is on the table. 420 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: Everything well obviously, I mean, they went on and on 421 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 2: about his obvious plastic surgery died, which was so apparent. 422 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw it, Hynesty, this this 423 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: whole Uh, I. 424 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: Have not seen it, No, but you know, they're doing 425 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: shots of Tom Brady from you know, during his time 426 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: with the Patriots, like in two thoughts, He's not even recognized, 427 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: and then they would cut to a live interview with 428 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: his you know, big boofy hair when he was obviously 429 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 2: he was losing his hair when he was younger, and 430 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: his whole facial structure, it doesn't even look like the 431 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 2: same person, Yeah, I know. 432 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: And then there were moments in the Rose where I thought, 433 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 4: I was like, it doesn't even look like his face 434 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 4: is moving, like. 435 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean's and they were taking shots 436 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: at him about his plastic surgery and everything else, and 437 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 2: there was so the whole thing between Craft and Belichick, 438 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: and this I thought was pretty interesting, you know, when 439 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: you know. 440 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: A couple of people that were there were talking. Edelman 441 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: and I guess Bledsoe were on and they were talking 442 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: on a podcast about. 443 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: Well, I know what you saw on during the roast. 444 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: And by the way, some of the editing on this roast? 445 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: Why are you editing the rose? You edited out the 446 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 2: booing right of Kim Kardashian. Why would you do that 447 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: unless she her foot down and said take that out? 448 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: So what were you doing there in the first place? 449 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: And when you're there and you're getting booed, that's fun. 450 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 4: Again, It was just weird things about the editing, that 451 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 4: reaction to the Bob Kraft comment, like all of that. 452 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: It was just like a ro should not be scripted, 453 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: and it almost was scripted, right, And that's that's where 454 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 4: you were like, Oh, so this it's not as good 455 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 4: as I thought initially. 456 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: Oh I would love to have seen the behind the 457 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: scenes between Belichick and Kraft. Did you see Apparently the 458 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: story goes is that Belichick was already there reuniting with 459 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: some of his former players, sort of holding cord, telling 460 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: some stories, and then Kraft walks into the room, and 461 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, while Belichick is talking, guys are 462 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: walking away to greet Bob Kraft. Wow, Wow, which just 463 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: seems wow, what is that about? Much when we're talking 464 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: about former players, wouldn't talk about any current guys that 465 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: need to you know, kiss his ass? 466 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, and you know that there is a 467 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 4: little bit of drama because it isn't the story that 468 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 4: Robert Kraft told Arthur Smith to. 469 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 3: Not well, that was the report right, right man. He said, 470 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 3: beware of Bill. 471 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 4: Be Bill Belt exactly. So you know there is like 472 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: a beef bruin there. There's beef everywhere. Shannon Sharp, Shack, 473 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: Drake Kendrick. 474 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: Well, my attitude, bomb Craft didn't have to have any 475 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: excuses for firing Belichick. 476 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: He was awful. 477 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, at the end, but he had lost 478 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: that locker room. 479 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: He lost it. 480 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't disagree with you, but I am thirteen. 481 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: Is a disaster. Way he handled the quarterback. You destroyed 482 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 3: a young quarterback that showed promises rookie season. Yeah. 483 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: I think the problem was more at the end, still 484 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 4: letting him have so much power, right, That was always 485 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: with Bill. 486 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: Well, and Bill was not going to relinquish it was 487 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: he wasn't gonna give it. 488 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: As we had said many times. 489 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: I'd ask, you know, former Patriot, our buddy Rich Ornberger, 490 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: I said, if Kraft came to and said, look, Bill, 491 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: I still obviously have a lot of respect for you 492 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: as a coach, but your personnel moves are killing us. 493 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: We need to bring in somebody else. Do you think 494 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: that Belichick would agree with that? 495 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 3: He said, no way. When you've had total control for 496 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: over twenty years, you're not going to relinkish that control. 497 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 3: So I'm sure that was part of the discussion. 498 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: And if Belichick had said to him, I don't feel 499 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: comfortable with that, then Bob Kraft says, well, Bill, I 500 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: have no choice. 501 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: Then I'm going to let you go. Yeah, it's over. 502 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: It was over, and I'm sure Belichick thought, fine, I'm 503 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: ready to move on to somewhere else. But the idea 504 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: that do we understand? 505 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 3: Are we one hundred percent sure about that whole thing 506 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: that he bad mouthed Belichick Arthur Blank when he was, 507 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: you know, considering hiring him as the coach of the falcon. 508 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: I not what do you mean by sure? I'm not 509 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: sure sure, but that's the report. 510 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: I can tell you this from personal experience. I have 511 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: had situations where former and lawyers didn't always have the 512 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: best things to say about me. But fortunately the people 513 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: that hired me kept tiring me. Said okay, but I'm 514 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: going to take him anyway. 515 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, And maybe that's it would not surprise me if 516 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: it's true. I guess is the point right, because Bill 517 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 4: Belichick is still considered because of his history. I'm sure 518 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 4: everybody is willing to take a chance on him regardless. 519 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 3: I would say so, yeah, right. 520 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 4: Even though nobody took a chance on him yet this season. 521 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: So it wouldn't surprise me if it is that Robert 522 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: Craft wanted to kind of stop that because he's like, 523 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 4: I don't want you to take your geniusness to another team. 524 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: Even though it fell flat with us the last couple 525 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: of years. 526 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: I didn't think the Atlanta job was all that great 527 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: for Belichick. I know it's sort of a weak division. 528 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: Well it's the weakest weekend. 529 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: And I think that's the selling point. You actually have 530 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: a chance to win the division. 531 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: But the fact that that was the only team that 532 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: really seriously considered Belichick. 533 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know it is weird. 534 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: It is weird because again, I would take a chance 535 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: on Bill Belichick. Right. 536 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's trending right now. A 537 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: guy that's been well, he hangs out. 538 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 3: Here all the time. Artin Weis is in the house. Smart. 539 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: What's going on? Man? 540 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 9: You know, Steve, I don't just come here for fun. 541 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 9: I do get paid to come here and do this, 542 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 9: do you really? Yeah, I don't just volunteer my time 543 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 9: at the local national radio station. 544 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: You know. Really there's a compensation involved in this. 545 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 9: Well I'm not saying I'm retiring anytime soon, but yeah, 546 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 9: I do get paid, right, You guys get paid? 547 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: Is that from where of the Millers? You know what 548 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: talk you about yet? 549 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 550 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 9: Is that that movie with Jennifer Aniston and Jason Tudakas 551 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 9: and they go on to the road trip. 552 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, they pretend to be a family with these two kids. 553 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: One it's like a runaway and the other. 554 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the kid finds out they're all making money, 555 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 4: and he's like, you guys are got any money? 556 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 9: Well, the NBA, those players got paid today as well, 557 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 9: game checks, much more than I make doing this right here. 558 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 9: But the Mavericks took a two to one lead in 559 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 9: the Western Conference semifinals today, beating the Thunder one oh 560 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 9: five to one on one PJ. 561 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: Washington. 562 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 9: It led to Mavericks with twenty seven points. Kyrie and 563 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 9: Luca both had twenty two. Shay Gilders Alexander had thirty 564 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 9: one to ten rebounds and six assists in the loss. 565 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 9: We'll see the Boston Selvions in the Cleveland Cavaliers in 566 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 9: just a little while now, eight thirty Eastern. The tip 567 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 9: for that, Christaph porzingis, as Monci alluded to just a 568 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 9: moment ago, he's still out. Jared Allen a game time 569 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 9: decision with his rib injury. Two playoff hockey games today, 570 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 9: Game four for the Rangers on the Hurricanes. Puck dropped 571 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 9: seven pm Eastern, so just around the coroner there. New 572 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 9: York leads with a three on. New York has a 573 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 9: three to nothing lead in the series. Game three Stars 574 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 9: and the Avalanche ten pm Eastern Net. Series tied one 575 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 9: game a piece. Commander's rookie Jerzon Johnny Newton had surgery 576 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 9: to repair a partial Jones fractor in his foot earlier 577 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 9: this year. Reports are now saying he needs surgery to 578 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 9: repair the same injury in his other foot. Barn's first 579 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 9: round pick Roma Denze missed the day. Two have practiced 580 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 9: earlier today with the straam hamstring team says his absence 581 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 9: is precautionary. Zed Williams, professional lacrosse player, was invited to 582 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 9: the Buffalo Bill's rookie Mini caamp. He was an All 583 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 9: Pro and MVP in twenty twenty in the Pro Lacrosse League. 584 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 9: Jarvis Landry, former pro bowler, is a Jaguars rookie mini camp. 585 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 9: He had a down year twenty twenty two, didn't play 586 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty three, so we're started all over trying 587 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 9: to make a team and trying to make that Jacksonville 588 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 9: Jaguars final roster. The Patriots have officially announced Elliott Wolfe 589 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 9: as executive vice president of Player of Personnel. He'll have 590 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 9: control over the fifty three man roster and the salary cap. 591 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: Steve and Moncey. Back to you, guys, Hi Martin, Thank 592 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: you very much. 593 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: Check in with you a little bit later on Once again, 594 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Hartman, Moncey Belanos. We 595 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: are live from the tirerack dot Com studios. All right, 596 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: we'll get off that again. The thing about these roast is, 597 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 2: I mean, did you I mean, I know you watched it. 598 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: Were you laughing a lot? 599 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 4: I didn't watch the live stream of it, so I 600 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 4: watched it after the fact. 601 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: Did you think Kevin Hart was funny? I think he 602 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: dropped a lot of F bombs. 603 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I like Kevin Hart. He wasn't like 604 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 4: the funniest to me. But I do like him, so 605 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 4: you know when you already are into someone's bit because 606 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 4: it's his bit, it's his style. I didn't mind it, 607 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: but I thought some were really funny. I just again, 608 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 4: the goal is to make you squirm, so there were 609 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: some that I squormed. I was like, that's funny. But 610 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 4: roasts are not for everybody. 611 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: No, And the thing that just got me it just 612 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: seemed like Gizelle was being roasted way more than Tom. 613 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that it was a lot. 614 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: It was, but again, anything's on the table, and it's 615 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 4: still such a big story. 616 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: You still hear a lot of Gizelle. 617 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: Tom Brady, it's just Gizel Gizell. 618 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: You think she inspired him to get all this plastic 619 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: surgery done. 620 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 4: I mean, oh man, I would assume that she definitely 621 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: aware of it. 622 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if she encouraged it or not. 623 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about Wemba Yama for a second year. 624 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 2: So Wemmy was the unanimous Joys for NBA Rookie of 625 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: the Year. And honestly, although Rudy Gobert won his fourth 626 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year award, you could make an 627 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: argument that Wemby should have been defensive Player of the 628 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: Year as well. 629 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: Yep. 630 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean when you look at his numbers per minutes memory, 631 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: he averaged less than thirty minutes a game. His numbers 632 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: were staggering. 633 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: Led the league. Obviously in block shots. No rookie had 634 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: done that since my new Bowl. 635 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: But here's the thing that sort of gets to me, 636 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: because he's all excited about the future, and I'm like, 637 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: all right, let's remember this little stat. 638 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: You want to hear a stat you. 639 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: And your stats throat at. 640 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: Last year, the San Antonio Spurs were twenty two and sixty, 641 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: which put him in line too, and we just knew 642 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: they were going to be the ones right to get Wemby. 643 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: This year with Wimby, they were twenty two and sixty. 644 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: They have the exact same record. In fact, the only 645 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: reason they got to that they won seven of the 646 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: last eleven games to get to the exact same number 647 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: of wins they had the year before. So you had 648 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: a complete name team two years ago. You go twenty 649 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: two and sixty, conveniently, get the number one pick and 650 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: a generational talent like Wemby, and you add him and 651 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: he plays up to maybe exceeds expectations as a rookie, 652 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: certainly did in my eye, and you still won twenty 653 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: two games. 654 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: So I mean Wemby says he's excited about the future. 655 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be all that excited until I start adding 656 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: teammates that can actually change things. And the reason I 657 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: bring this up is is that in the case of 658 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: the two other big men Spurs that won Rookie of 659 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: the Year, David Robinson and Tim Duncan, there was a 660 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: dramatic turnaround in the fortunes of the Spurs in their 661 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: rookie season. And the fact is, no matter how good 662 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: Wemby was, they didn't win a single additional game from 663 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: how how many they won the year before. 664 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: So you're not wrong that he definitely needs some other 665 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: weapons around him, There's no question about that. I'm wondering 666 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 4: if maybe they try and get like Trey Young or 667 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: somebody like that to go pare him, you know, with Wemby. 668 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: But I think the difference here is that now there 669 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 4: is a clear path as to what the Spurs want 670 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: to do. 671 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: So that's why I don't mind that he said that. 672 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: I get what he's saying. 673 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 4: It was the exact same record nothing changed you. You didn't. 674 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: You didn't move the needle that much for the first show. 675 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: Why was it that his game? 676 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 2: Because again, when David Robinson went to the Spurs, they 677 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: went from like twenty nine to sixty wins. Tim Duncan, 678 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: there was a big leap in wins when he was 679 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: a rookie with the Spurs. Why Why didn't Wemby's numbers 680 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: translate into w's for the Spurs. 681 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: No, it's got to be just this switch from European 682 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 4: basketball to this and figuring out how to make him 683 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 4: thrive in the NBA. I'm sure it was just a 684 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 4: lot of figuring things out as they went along, maybe 685 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 4: testing a lot of experiments. With David Robinson, it was like, 686 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: go be you just do you. Maybe with Victor win Boniam, 687 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: I was like, let's figure out how to make sure 688 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: that your style of play is successful translating to the NBA. 689 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: And maybe it's just taking taking more than the one year. 690 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 3: I just seemed a little weird to me. 691 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Sorry, let's cut you off. 692 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 4: I also just think like during David Robinson's time, the 693 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: skill level was different than the skill everyone's good. 694 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: Now, Like I feel like everybody. 695 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: Day they were, but like every now it's like megastars superstars. 696 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't love star. 697 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: You know, it's not megastars the rest of that Spurs roster. 698 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: I know. 699 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: There's too many teams in the NBA had thirty teams, 700 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: way too many teams. You got water down talent across 701 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: the board, and so you have a lot of really 702 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: bad teams. Yeah, when you could talk about the superstar level, 703 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: I agree with you there. 704 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: I mean, look at I am. 705 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: Some of the guys said, like Kyrie Irving, who has 706 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: to sit in the shadow of Luka Doncic. You when 707 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: you watch Kyrie Irving's skill set, he's one of the 708 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: players in this league that blows me away. Like he 709 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: he can do things his ball handling skills, getting to 710 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: the hoop, you know, knocking down shots and everything else. 711 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 712 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 2: There's something about Kyrie Irving's game that I just electrifies me, 713 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: you know. And it's weird because he's on a team 714 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: where a guy like Donca just monopolizes the basketball. But no, 715 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: I on the upper ashelant, there probably more players with 716 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: outstanding skill sets at the top. But because you have 717 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: a water down league with thirty teams, these rosters are 718 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: low to a players that are just forgettable. 719 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: There's a lot of them. 720 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: I hate to tell you this, Steve. I don't think 721 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: we're getting rid of any teams. 722 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: No, if anything, they're going to expand it. Yea even 723 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: further water down the product out there all right. On 724 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: the other side, a lot of talk about coaching vacancies 725 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: in the NBA and one coach current coach's decision about 726 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 2: his future can change the whole dynamic of the NBA. 727 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Saturday. 728 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 5: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 729 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 5: Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com 730 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 5: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 731 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: Steve Harvey, Montziblanos Here Fox Sports Saturday. We are live 732 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot com studios. 733 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 3: Paul Skeens. 734 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 2: Paul Skeens, who was the first pick in the draft 735 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: this year, right. 736 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: Well, the last year, because this June the most recent draft. 737 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: Yes, and made his major league debut today for the 738 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: Paris Yes, and it went pretty well. Yeah, he did 739 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: give up three runs, but he struck out seven and 740 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 2: four innings. And yeah, he's he's a big guy now. 741 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: He's dating what's her name, Olivia, don't he done? 742 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, the gymnasts from LSU. 743 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: Who apparently made more NIL money than any other collegiate athlete. 744 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 745 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 4: You know, it's actually quite interesting because I was watching 746 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: the game and. 747 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 8: The the gal was interviewing Livy Dunn in the seats about, 748 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 8: you know, this moment because they lived together or they 749 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 8: were traveling together, they got the call and then all 750 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 8: of a sudden they packed up and they were on 751 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 8: their way that he was making his debut, right, and 752 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 8: so they were talking to her and the gal was like, so, 753 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 8: in all of everything that you've experienced with him, what 754 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 8: is the biggest moment you're gonna remember from his career? 755 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 4: And Mike the question was like, huh, she's an athlete, 756 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 4: she's her own gymnast, and you're asking the girlfriend what 757 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 4: the biggest moment for him is. 758 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: It was such a weird question because they're not married. 759 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: I thought Livy Dunn was kind of like, yeah, like, 760 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 4: you know, he won an LSU I've been there, this 761 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 4: is is. 762 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: Definitely up there. 763 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 4: But it was to me it was like such a 764 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 4: weird question to ask a fellow athlete who is also 765 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 4: one of the greatest gymnasts and a huge name. 766 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: For herself, probably more famous than him. 767 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 3: She's not very tall because she is a gymnast. 768 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 4: She is a. 769 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: Gymnast and he's six six. Yes, yes, does that seem 770 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 2: where to you when you see the dynamic because you're 771 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: not tall, I'm not when you see let's say, someone 772 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 2: a woman that's five feet tall with a guy that's 773 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: sixty six or seven feet, I. 774 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: Mean, listen, sixty six. That's a lot. Because I'm five feet. 775 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: Sean is five to eleven, and I when I see 776 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 4: pictures of us, I'm like, I'm not short. 777 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: That's what I look like next to you. 778 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 4: Yes, Oh my goodness, whoa that's in my head. I 779 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: don't look like that, but I guess that's how people 780 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 4: see us. 781 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: I can't imagine a six to six. 782 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 4: That guy would have to like come all the way 783 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 4: down to give me a kiss. That guy's back would hurt. 784 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: Well, you just have to walk around on his knees 785 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: all day. Yeah, that's basically what it is. We still 786 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: have that no hitter going. We are two outs away 787 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 2: from a no hitter. 788 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: Comebine, no hitter, Come comebine. 789 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 3: No hitter. 790 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: Max Freed went seven no hit innings. Men Is then 791 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: came in and got through the eighth. 792 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: Inning, and now we are one out of way. 793 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 2: Iglesias is in for the Braves right now to close 794 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: out this no hitter. By the way, if you add 795 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: up the pitches of the three pitchers for the Braves, 796 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty two pitches. Now, I'm sure they 797 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: were thinking freeds already at one hundred and nine. How 798 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: many more pitches would he have to throw to get 799 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: through two more full innings? Well, based on the two 800 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: relief guys, it's a lot, a lot lot, Yeah, And 801 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: here could be the last out or is it going 802 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: to be a home run? And it is a home run? 803 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: Wo one out away from a no hitter, Iglesias gives 804 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: up a home run to JD Martinez. 805 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: Of course it's Jady Martinz prought. 806 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: Up us away. 807 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 2: He pounded that pitch and that goes not only no hitter, 808 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: but the shutout as well. 809 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 3: So the Mets do not get no hit. 810 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: Jadie Martinez delivers with a two out bottom of the 811 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 2: ninth inning home run to avoid the no hitter. 812 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't hate this uniform that the Mets are wearing. 813 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: By the way, this some gray and black, a little 814 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: bit of like purple. 815 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I like the NYC Yes, I 816 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 3: do too. I like that. I like that on the 817 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 3: front of the uniform too. 818 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: No, I like this uniform. 819 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: All right, I want to start this conversation because we're 820 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: going to do much more of this on the next hour. 821 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 2: I got a question for you, Clipper fan extraorded in there. So, 822 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 2: even though the Clippers got eliminated, which again was predictable 823 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 2: with think Kawhi Leonard watching from the sidelines again at 824 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 2: the end of a postseason, tyleru is, in my opinion, 825 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 2: one of the premier coaches in this league. 826 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 3: I've always been a fan of Tyler. 827 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: And all the buzz is is that they want to 828 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: extend his contract. He has one year remaining on his contract, 829 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 2: so he is under contract currently with the Clippers through 830 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: next season. But there's this buzz that they want to 831 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: extend his contract. Well, the Clipper season ended, how many years? 832 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 3: Like a week and to have ago right and the Lakers. 833 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 3: You know, the buzz is the Lakers would understandably be 834 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 3: interested in hiring a coach with Tyler's resume, but they can't. 835 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: They have of my coach. 836 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 2: Well, they can't touch him because he's under contract to 837 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 2: the Clippers. So what is the hold up right now 838 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 2: in that contract extension? Because again, you have an owner 839 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: who's one of the ten wealthiest people on the planet 840 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: that can outpay any other owner in. 841 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 3: This league in terms of how much money he gives 842 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 3: to a coach. What's what's the hold up? 843 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 4: I'm guessing the hold up has to do a little 844 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 4: bit with Paul George and what he decides to do 845 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 4: a little bit of that. 846 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: Well, you also have to decide on James Harden. James, 847 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 3: are you going to keep James Harden? 848 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 4: I think they want to run it all back exactly 849 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 4: the same way. I think that is the goal. I'm 850 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 4: not saying that's the right answer. I'm just telling you 851 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 4: what I think is going to happen. I think they're 852 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 4: trying to run it on. 853 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: You think tyger Lou wants everybody back. See, this is 854 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 2: what it comes down to for Tylu because he does 855 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: have options. 856 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 3: Now, again, they're not going to fire him. 857 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: So you know, again, ty I don't understand unless Tylu quits, 858 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 2: he's not available, right, He's under contract. So unless he 859 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 2: says I quit, right, he's going to be the Clippers 860 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 2: coach next season. 861 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 3: But like you said, is he all that? 862 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: Is he all that gung ho of a reunitingum of Kawhi, 863 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: Paul George and James Harden for another run. 864 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 4: He might not be gung ho, but I think that's 865 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,760 Speaker 4: what's gonna happen. And I think that's what they're waiting 866 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 4: on because I agree. I don't think it's money. Balmer 867 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 4: can give him whatever he wants. I don't think it's 868 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 4: about money. I think he's just kind of waiting to 869 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 4: see what Paul George decides to do. 870 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 2: Well, see that that has a big bearing on another 871 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: team in the league. We'll get to all that and 872 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: much more coming up. This is Fox Sports Saturday, rolling 873 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 2: along here on another fully loaded Sports Saturday. Fox Sports 874 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 2: Saturday broadcasting live from the tai Iraq to dot Com studios, 875 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 2: tyride dot com. We're gonna get you there and I'm 876 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: at selection fast free shipping. Free Road has a protection 877 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: over ten thousand recommending installers. Tie iraq dot com the 878 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: way tire buy and should be great to be back 879 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 2: here with Montsey this week after attending my daughter's college 880 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 2: graduation last week. 881 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 4: That's right, you weren't gallivantine, you know, a good father. 882 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, spending money, spending. 883 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: I feel like everything I spent on her graduation was 884 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 2: more than I spent on putting. 885 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: Her through college. I mean it's it was just so much. 886 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 2: Somebody layers to the graduation. And of course, my beautiful 887 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 2: daughter paris honor student everything else. Yeah, she's one of 888 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: those check every box girls. 889 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: And so I'm very sweet. 890 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 3: I just you know, well, you say no, I'm dad. 891 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't. You can't your daddy. 892 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: By the way, Mother's Day tomorrow, Yes, how do you 893 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 2: feel about Mother's Day? 894 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm not a mother aside from my pet. Yeah, 895 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 4: and that's as far as I heard your. 896 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 3: Pet intend to get doing something nice for me. 897 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 4: She probably thinks he's getting something for a brother's Day, 898 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 4: some sort of extra treat or something. But I my 899 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 4: mom is wonderful, and I really admire all moms. I 900 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 4: have a lot of friends who are moms, and I 901 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 4: see what they do and how much they sacrifice, and 902 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 4: I don't think moms get enough credit, which is one 903 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 4: of the reasons I don't want to be a mom, 904 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 4: because it's a lot of work, and I see everybody 905 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 4: go through it and yeah, no, it's not a lot 906 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 4: of work. 907 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 3: Well. Here, here's the thing about being divorced. 908 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: Okay, as I have been for a number of years now, 909 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: and obviously I have a great admiration for my ex 910 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 2: Denise because she's been an amazing mom. Yeah, I mean 911 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: you met my kids. You said, you said the parents 912 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: are crazy, the. 913 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: Parents are crazy, and the kids are just absolutely lovely. 914 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: Lovely and normal. And she loved that because she agrees. 915 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. When when you're married with children, guys, 916 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: know this, you're on the hook for five halidays. You're 917 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 2: on the hook for Valentine's Day, which I don't get 918 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 2: after you're married, her birthday correct, Mother's Day, yes, Anniversary yes, 919 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: and then you know Christmas or whatever that is. That's 920 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 2: five holidays. 921 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 3: Now. The great thing about being divorced that's gone. 922 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 2: Christmas is gone, Anniversary gone, that one's gone gone. 923 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 3: Valentine's Day obviously is our birthday now. So I just 924 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 3: I just have the one, the one. 925 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,959 Speaker 1: You better make it good. 926 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,959 Speaker 3: Well, I get a nice card, that's it, a card, card. 927 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: Card card. Do you put something in the card? 928 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the nice words about what a great 929 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: job she's done is and it's sincere because I do 930 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: think she's done an amazing job for our children. 931 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 3: Yes, so that's good. 932 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 4: I'm glad you're giving Denise at least a card, maybe 933 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 4: throw a. 934 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: Flower in there. 935 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: Part of my job as well is to make sure 936 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 2: my boys I'm not worried about my daughter. 937 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 3: My boys remember. 938 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: That is important. 939 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 3: You're right, yes, you know. 940 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, me and my brothers have a group message and 941 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 4: will be like, hey, reminder it's mom's birthday. 942 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: Hey, reminder it's dad's birthday. Or if something's going on, reminder. 943 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 3: I mean that's my job. 944 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good, Good for you. 945 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 3: And as I say, make your life easy. I try 946 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 3: to convey this to my boys constantly. Why complicate your life? 947 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 948 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 3: Do not irritate your mother? Just don't. 949 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So here's something that's sort of caught 950 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: my eye here. You may have heard this alleged bet. Well, 951 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 2: it wasn't alleged because they made it publish. 952 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a thing. 953 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: Former teammates at LSU, Jayden Daniels, some Lake neighbors had 954 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: made a bet ten thousand dollars to whoever's named the 955 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: offensive rookie of the Year because they didn't explain if 956 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 2: neither one of them is offensive, Rookie of the Year, if. 957 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams wins that you paint him. 958 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 2: Ten not a bet. I didn't you know, So they 959 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 2: were they basically told, you can't do that. You can't 960 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: do that, You can't you can't make a public bet, right, 961 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 2: that's the word in public, that's the word. 962 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 3: Right. 963 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 2: Yes, Here's the one thing I know my late great partner, 964 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 2: and if you've listened to me for a thousand years, 965 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 2: you remember the great Chet forty. Jet forty was the 966 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: longtime producer director Monday Night Football whose career unraveled because 967 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: of a gambling addition. It was well documented and he 968 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 2: was in gambling rehab over the last five years of 969 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 2: his life that I worked with him before he passed away. 970 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 2: Here's the one thing he told me, because I used 971 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 2: to ask how he goes how much and this is 972 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 2: back in the nineties, how much gambling is going on 973 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,280 Speaker 2: in professional sports? 974 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 3: And he goes a lot more than you know. 975 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised because. 976 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 3: If you're a gambler. Because we were talking about Jordan. 977 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 2: This is when Jordan suddenly retired after it was uncovered, 978 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 2: the checks were found where he you know, money had passed. 979 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't like he retired because I just have this 980 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: itch to play minor league baseball, Okay, and then he 981 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 2: returned because the NBA needed Michael Jordan. 982 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 983 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 2: But here's the thing Chit told me, he said about 984 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: athletes gambling. If you have a gambling mentality, the idea 985 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: of betting on something where you actually have control of 986 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 2: the outcome of a game is very enticing. That thrilling, 987 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: really enticing, where I can control the game. Basketball has 988 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 2: been hit with more gambling scandals than any other sport 989 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: because a single player can have a much bigger effect 990 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 2: than a single player in baseball or football, much more so. 991 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 2: And this is why it's so prevalent and so but 992 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 2: here's the thing. For years, these major sports leagues shied 993 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: away from any involvement, any hint of any association with gambling. 994 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 3: Those days are over, they're over. 995 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 2: You are bringing in billions of dollars of revenue through 996 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 2: these gambling establishments, and you're been out of shape because 997 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 2: a couple of college teammates entering the NFL want to 998 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: make a little bet, saying, well, if you win or 999 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 2: I win. The other's got to pay ten thousand dollars 1000 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 2: for being offensive Rookie of the Year. If I were 1001 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: the NFL, honestly I would, I would find a way 1002 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 2: to sort of play. 1003 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 3: With this right. To me, there's gotta be away. 1004 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 2: To play with something like that, instead of just shutting 1005 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: it down because I'm sure this bet is still on, 1006 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 2: it's just that it's no longer a public right. 1007 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 4: In their comments after oh, we just were unaware of 1008 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 4: the gambling rules. 1009 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: We didn't know the details. 1010 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 4: And to a point, I actually think that's true because 1011 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 4: it's so great in the fell in the sports betting 1012 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 4: is great, like in the NFL. It's like, oh, you 1013 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 4: can bet, but you can't bet from the facilities, right like, okay, 1014 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 4: but if I crossed. 1015 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: The street, I can bet. 1016 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 4: Like it's it's a little bit great for me, and 1017 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 4: I think it should be more black and white than 1018 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 4: it is. But that's why I think they can't even 1019 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 4: slightly open that door. 1020 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: Because I agree what's wrong with this bet? 1021 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 4: Their buddies, they're trying to show each other up. 1022 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: What is wrong with this bet? 1023 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 4: I totally agree with you, But the NFL cannot even 1024 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 4: pretend that that's Okay, they can't even kind of peek 1025 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 4: through that door. 1026 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: They can't. They can't allow that. It's already a bit 1027 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: of a problem. 1028 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 2: I just wonder how many people out there really care 1029 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 2: that these well, I'm just I'm just talking about gambling 1030 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: in general. You know, when we talk about Pete Rose, 1031 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: and we talk about back in the sixties when Paul 1032 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 2: Horning and Alex karras two Hall of Fame players were suspended. 1033 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 3: For an entire year. 1034 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 2: Sure, in every one of these cases, they bet on 1035 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 2: their own team. They never bet against their team. There's 1036 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 2: no evidence they ever threw a game or did anything else. 1037 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 2: They were members of the best teams in the league, 1038 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 2: and they wanted to cash in on it. By the way, 1039 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 2: you know, a guy like Floyd Mayweather Junior, he was 1040 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 2: betting on himself constantly to win fights. Yeah, put put 1041 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 2: down those X amount of dollars millions that I'm gonna 1042 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 2: win this fight. 1043 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 5: M h. 1044 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 3: I love that incentive, me too, me. 1045 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 4: I No, I have no problem with you betting on 1046 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 4: your team. I really don't. It's when you try and 1047 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 4: manipulate the situation. 1048 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 2: But if you are found in any way throwing a game, 1049 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 2: hinting at anyone. You're gone, You're you'relimited, no questions asked, 1050 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 2: You are out the door. 1051 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,919 Speaker 3: Goodbye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 1052 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 2: But sometimes, in this day and age, where all these 1053 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 2: athletes are making so much money, where's the real incentive? 1054 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 2: We know there are athletes like the Tom Brady's of 1055 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 2: the world who willingly to took less money to ensure 1056 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 2: that his organization could get the best possible players to 1057 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 2: reach his ultimate goal, which was winning championships. But not 1058 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 2: everyone's wired like that. No, a lot of them are 1059 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: just you know, they make a lot of money, and 1060 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 2: some of that incentive goes out the window. And as 1061 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 2: a fan, I want to believe that my team. You've 1062 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: got big money guys on your team. With the Clippers, 1063 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 2: right nik in thirty forty to fifty making sixty million 1064 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 2: dollars a year, so much money, how wouldn't you want 1065 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 2: to know that there's something on the line that may 1066 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 2: be further incentivized. I mean they did this mid season 1067 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,720 Speaker 2: tournament was actually it was an early season tournament where 1068 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 2: you know, the players got bonuses and everything else to 1069 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, make them want to win this in 1070 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 2: season tournament. 1071 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, There's definitely been a lot of incidences in sports 1072 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 4: right where we see that money does drive people. That 1073 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 4: does We just saw it in the NBA with the 1074 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,760 Speaker 4: n Season tournament. 1075 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: But you can't. You can't open that door. You can't. 1076 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I feel like there's a 1077 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,240 Speaker 1: way to make this work. 1078 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 4: I just don't know how, because imagine this bet that 1079 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 4: these two players did for offensive for k of the year. 1080 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 4: If it was like a public thing, and you can 1081 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 4: join in on the bet, like add to each of 1082 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 4: their you know, banks, and then you split the money 1083 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,919 Speaker 4: like everybody that participates. It's like, if you believe him, 1084 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 4: give money to him. If you believe in him, give 1085 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 4: money to him, and then at the end you get 1086 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 4: money or your money goes to a stranger. 1087 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 2: Gambling is such a big part of this situation. The 1088 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 2: NFL is going to have to figure this out. So 1089 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,919 Speaker 2: they squashed this now, but at some point right now, 1090 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 2: I mean, eventually, these NFL stadiums will have mechanisms for 1091 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 2: you to gamble. 1092 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 3: At your very seat. I promise you that's gonna happen. 1093 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 4: I read that Davenbusters, you know that, like Kaid, that 1094 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 4: you can now bet against your friends at these games 1095 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 4: at Davidbusters. 1096 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 1: That's what I read. 1097 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 3: Now. 1098 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my, we're already doing that. We're 1099 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:05,839 Speaker 1: already doing it. 1100 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 3: Who we are? 1101 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 2: So for years the NFL, I I just remember so 1102 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 2: many conversations with co hosts of mine that insisted that said, well, 1103 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 2: you know, the NFL is not about gambling. Really, what 1104 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 2: do you think took this sport to the top of 1105 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 2: the charts. There's all that gambling all right? 1106 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 3: Coming up? Coming up. 1107 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 2: On the other side, it's decision time for one of 1108 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 2: the premire franchises in all of professional sports. 1109 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 3: Which team? Which decision? We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Saturday. 1110 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Monci Belanio's Fox Sports Saturday. We are alive 1111 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot com studios. Hey, remember right 1112 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 2: after the Sharp podcast will be going up. To miss 1113 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 2: any of today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. 1114 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. 1115 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 2: Be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Again, 1116 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. 1117 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 2: You'll see this show posted right after we get off 1118 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 2: the air. All right, so later on we're going to 1119 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 2: have the Cavaliers who stunned the Celtics Game two of 1120 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 2: that series in Boston. That series heading back to Cleveland 1121 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: earlier today, Dallas did defeat ok See to take a 1122 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 2: two to one series lead. 1123 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 3: In that matchup. 1124 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 2: One team that's been long gone from the playoffs are 1125 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 2: the Lakers, and you know when you're sort of justifying 1126 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 2: their early exit by saying, yeah, well you lost to 1127 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 2: the you know, the best team in the league, the Nuggets, 1128 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 2: and then the Nuggets get pounded in back to back 1129 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 2: games against Minnesota. 1130 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 3: Obviously they did rebound in Game three, but. 1131 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 2: That to me would be a sign that you're further 1132 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 2: away from a championship than you originally thought. 1133 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 3: Me thought if your. 1134 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 2: Gauge was well, we were leading the Denver Nuggets all 1135 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: five games at halftime, so we're not that far away. 1136 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 2: And then that same Nuggets team gets annihilated at home 1137 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 2: in back to back games by Minnesota. The fact is 1138 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 2: you're not getting any younger. 1139 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 4: You're not getting any younger, and that goes with the 1140 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 4: Clippers and a lot of teams. 1141 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 2: You got one hundred and forty seven games in the 1142 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 2: regular season out of a potential one sixty four of 1143 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 2: your two superstars. 1144 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 3: Are you going to get that again? 1145 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 2: That's the most games Obviously Anthony Davis has ever played 1146 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 2: in the season for the Lakers. 1147 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 3: What are the odds that he's going to do it again? 1148 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,439 Speaker 4: And with Lebron Remember like the story at the start 1149 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 4: of the season in like low minutes, that. 1150 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: Didn't happen at all. 1151 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 4: No, he played way more than I minutes per game. Yeah, yeah, 1152 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 4: and good for him, Good for Anthony Davis. But how 1153 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 4: is that going to keep going? How are you going 1154 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 4: to get better at knowing that all these other teams 1155 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 4: that are thriving are the young teams. 1156 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 2: So Darvin Ham was the sacrificial lamb and it wasn't 1157 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 2: a surprise. And I say this about Darvin Ham. Look, 1158 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 2: Darvin Ham is one of those guys that I think 1159 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 2: is essential to have on your assistant coaching staff because 1160 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 2: he is a locker room guy. He's a guy that 1161 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,399 Speaker 2: when things can get a little rouffled, brings a certain 1162 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 2: level of credibility. He has the right demeanor to settle 1163 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 2: things down. That's the role he played all those years 1164 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. What he's not is really an effective head coach. Yeah, 1165 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 2: he made too many mistakes, lineup mistakes in game decisions, 1166 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 2: constantly standing there with his hands in his pockets. 1167 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 3: It just he's not a head coach. 1168 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: No, and that's not a bad thing. 1169 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 4: You have to realize that, you know, once you go 1170 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 4: through the experience, that just because you're a good assistant 1171 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 4: coach does not mean you can jump to being a 1172 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:32,760 Speaker 4: head coach. 1173 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 3: Right. 1174 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's with everybody across all sports, not just in basketball. 1175 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 4: But there were times where when Anthony Davis said, we 1176 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 4: just don't know what we're doing out there. Sometimes I 1177 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 4: believed that because you saw sometimes in a timeout where 1178 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 4: it was like, are you running a play? It doesn't 1179 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 4: seem like you're drawing up a play. It seemed like 1180 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 4: he did not know what to do in the moment 1181 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 4: to make adjustments. 1182 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 2: Well, whoever is highed as the lakers next coach is 1183 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 2: going to be Lebron's fourth coach. 1184 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, since he joined the Lake. Yeah, he had Luke Walton. 1185 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was Jettison, he had Frank Vogel, he was fired, 1186 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,800 Speaker 2: Darvin Ham he was fired. 1187 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 3: You see a pattern going here? 1188 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, it's definitely a patter. 1189 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 2: In fact, since Phil Jackson resigned after the twenty eleven season, 1190 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 2: the Lakers have had six head coaches in twelve years. 1191 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 2: None of them lasted more than three years. Yeah, so 1192 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 2: now you have to decide again, who's the right fit 1193 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 2: for this Lakers team. Lebron's not going anywhere as long 1194 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 2: as you pick the guy he wants. AD's under contract, obviously, 1195 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,800 Speaker 2: Reeves's under contract, Hot Chamurs under contract. It's a player 1196 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 2: option coming up a d LO. So you have to say, 1197 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 2: all right, do we want a tylu type coach, You 1198 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 2: wish a guy that you know is a veteran coach, 1199 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 2: has a proven track card. You want that kind of guy, 1200 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 2: or do you want just some lap dog for Lebron 1201 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 2: to allow Lebron to essential run the team. 1202 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 3: That's what they have to decide. 1203 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,839 Speaker 4: There is no good answer for the Lakers because those 1204 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 4: are the two options. You want somebody that's tied down 1205 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 4: right now, or are you going to bring in his 1206 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 4: friend JJ Reddick might be a good coach, maybe, but 1207 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 4: he has no assistant coaching experience right that I know of, nothing, nothing, 1208 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,919 Speaker 4: nothing except played fifteen years in the NBA. 1209 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: Played fifteen years. 1210 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 3: By the way, this is not this is not new 1211 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 3: in the NBA. 1212 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: No, it's not, no, no, no, I mean. 1213 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 2: Jason Kidd went from playing to being a head coach. 1214 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 2: I think he's one of the more effective head coaches. 1215 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 2: He has shown that he's Larry Bird when he became 1216 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 2: the head coach, was a Coach of the Year. So 1217 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 2: it's it's not unprecedented that you have a player. But 1218 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 2: look at the Steve Nash situation in Brooklyn. How did 1219 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 2: that work. 1220 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: Went as quickly as it came Exactly? 1221 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 3: It didn't work, it did it? 1222 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: So, I mean, the fact that Reddick can break down 1223 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 2: a game is an analyst well Soka Mark Jackson was 1224 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 2: a head coach. Yeah, you know, it's it's a crap shoot. 1225 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 2: But what's the message sent to the rest of the team, 1226 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 2: if you pick the podcast partner of Lebron James. 1227 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: Just that this was the plan all along. There's no 1228 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: way to not see. 1229 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 4: It that way, right, that this was the plan all along. Hey, 1230 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 4: we're gonna do this podcast together. So all of a sudden, 1231 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 4: your name and my name are together constantly, people talking 1232 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 4: about it, you and I, and then all of a 1233 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 4: sudden it's like, oh, maybe JJ Reddick could be the coach. 1234 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 2: Well, and then they're talking about, you know, bringing in 1235 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 2: veteran coaches around him, right, that's then why are you 1236 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 2: hiring Reddick. If you're bringing in people around him that 1237 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 2: have been head coaches in the league, veteran coaches, what 1238 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 2: purpose does he serve? 1239 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 4: If this was not the Lakers organization that is so 1240 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 4: used to winning, and the expectation of winning isn't there, 1241 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 4: then people would be more like, Yeah, give JJ Reddick 1242 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 4: the opportunity. Do you want to go be the Charlotte 1243 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 4: Hornets head coach? People would be more open to that. 1244 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: But it's because it's. 1245 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 4: The Lakers organization and the last couple of years, I 1246 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 4: think Laker fans have been upset and annoyed with the 1247 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 4: way things have been handled. And I don't blame them. 1248 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 4: Four coaches in five years, four years. That's not what 1249 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 4: the Lakers are known for. That's not what they have 1250 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 4: been building, you know, since a doctor Buss was around. 1251 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 4: That's not what it was. That's not what it's supposed 1252 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 4: to be. And it's unfortunate that that's where they are. 1253 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 4: But it does seem that JJ Reddick is being pushed 1254 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 4: into the direction of being the Lakers head coach. 1255 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 2: It's just amazing when you think about dominance of a team. 1256 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 2: When the Lakers beat the Celtics, who win the twenty 1257 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 2: ten championship, Kobe's last championship. They had been in the 1258 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 2: league sixty two years, going back to their Minneapolis days. 1259 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 2: They had been to the NBA Finals thirty one times, 1260 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 2: exactly half of those years, not the playoffs NBA Finals. 1261 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a lot, thirty one out. 1262 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 2: Of sixty two years, with sixteen championships at that point. 1263 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 2: Since then, of course, they've been to one NBA Final, 1264 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 2: one championship in the bubble in twenty twenty. 1265 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: That's right. 1266 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 2: So if you, I mean, I don't know what the 1267 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 2: mindset is of Laker fans these days. I know as 1268 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 2: a as a someone that has followed the Lakers religiously. 1269 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 3: Since I was a child, I know what my expectations are. 1270 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 3: They have not changed. 1271 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can still live by the words 1272 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 2: of Kobe Bryant and conversations we had. How do you 1273 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 2: judge a season? He goes, they're two grades A and F. 1274 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Either you win a championship or you don't. 1275 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 3: I go, does it matter if you get to the 1276 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 3: NBA finals F if we don't win a championship F. 1277 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 4: And I think with Laker fans, I feel like there's 1278 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 4: the Laker fans that have been around for years, and 1279 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 4: then they're the lebron fans who are now Laker fans, right, 1280 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,520 Speaker 4: and they don't see eye to eye. 1281 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they got excited about getting in the Western 1282 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 2: Conference finals and I'm like, really, and getting swept by Denver? 1283 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 2: You're excited about that? Get out of here, turn in 1284 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 2: your car. You're no Laker fan. All right, let's find 1285 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 2: out what's trenning. Mark Medina is going to be joining 1286 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 2: us our NBA inside round the side, But first Martin 1287 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 2: is back. I don't know, Martin. When you look at 1288 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 2: your beloved Michigan Wolverines, uh huh National champions Right, the 1289 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 2: bar has been set well. 1290 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 9: I think a big part of the setting the bar 1291 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 9: is now living in an RV off in Coasta, Mesa 1292 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 9: right now. 1293 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 3: So what do the expectations for next year? Why would 1294 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 3: you want anything less? I mean, don't get me wrong, 1295 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 3: I want Michigan win national championship every year. That'd be amazing. 1296 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 9: But when you have such lack of coninuity at the top, 1297 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 9: it is kind of concerning. 1298 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a little concerning. 1299 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 9: But I'll say this, if they finish, if they finish 1300 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 9: with double digit wins and beat Ohio State, then I'll 1301 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 9: be good. 1302 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 3: So Ohio State is yeah. 1303 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 2: I understand that the rivalry game is the big one 1304 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 2: as you're winning that well, especially because let's say this 1305 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 2: is hypothetically speaking, Michigan finishes like, I don't know, six 1306 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 2: and seven on the year, but beats Ohio State. 1307 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 3: Do you understand the. 1308 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 9: The eruptions that will happen in Columbus in Columbus that year, 1309 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 9: that will be amazing. 1310 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 2: I know, as a UCLA fan, we weren't great, you know, 1311 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: but the last five years that Terry Donnie was a coach, 1312 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 2: they beat sc every year. 1313 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 3: So there you go, there you go. 1314 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 9: I mean, you know, sometimes those rivaliy games, though, they 1315 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 9: matter way too much. Uh. Speaking of the NHL Game 1316 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 9: four Rangers at the Hurricanes just got started New York 1317 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 9: with a three nothing, leading the series but trailing so far. 1318 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 3: Eight thirty left in the first period, Carolina two. 1319 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 9: Rangers won Hurricanes with seven shots on goal to the 1320 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 9: Rangers six. This one wraps up Game three tonight between 1321 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 9: the Stars and the Avalanche. That series tied one game apiece. 1322 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 9: That's ten pm Eastern for the puck drop. Earlier today, 1323 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 9: the Mavericks beat the thunder to take a two to 1324 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 9: one lead in the Western Conference Semis one oh five 1325 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 9: to one on one. 1326 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 3: PJ. 1327 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 9: Washington led the Mavericks with twenty seven points. Luca and 1328 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,040 Speaker 9: Kyrie both had twenty two. Say Gilders Alexander thirty one, 1329 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 9: ten and six in the loss. Red rusher Budd Dupree 1330 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 9: officially signing with again the aforementioned Jim Harbaugh and Los 1331 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 9: Angeles Chargers. The Patriots efficiently announced, Elliott Wolf. 1332 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 3: You like that, you like Budd Dupree. Listen, It's something, something, It's. 1333 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Something, it's something. I gotta get excited. 1334 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,200 Speaker 9: Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack something with Bud Dupree. 1335 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 3: There you go. 1336 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 9: The patriotsvisional announced Elliot Wolf, executive vice president of Player Personnel, 1337 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 9: Commander's rookie defensive tackle jers On. Johnny Newton had surgery 1338 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 9: to a pair a partial Jones fracture in his foot 1339 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 9: earlier this year. Well, he's not gonna need surgery to 1340 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 9: repair the same injury in his other foot. And Bear's 1341 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 9: first round picking Room and Dunze miss practice earlier today 1342 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,439 Speaker 9: with the strained ham saying ham string, the team said 1343 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 9: his absence is precautionary. 1344 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 3: Steve Moncy. 1345 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, thank you, Martin. 1346 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 3: We appreciate it. 1347 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 2: As always, once again, we are live from the tire 1348 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 2: rack dot Com Studios. Join us right now as he 1349 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 2: so graciously does every single Saturday here on our show, 1350 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 2: our NBA Insider here at Fox Sports, Rader Mark Medinaz 1351 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 2: is joining us again and Mark when we talk, we 1352 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,800 Speaker 2: were talking Moncie and I about this coaching situation. 1353 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 3: I'm I want to start with Tylu right now. 1354 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 2: Because ever since the Clippers season ended, now he's under 1355 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 2: contract next year with the Clippers, they've been talking contract extension, 1356 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 2: and since that conversation over the last ten days Crickets, 1357 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 2: we're not hearing anything about him rushing to sign an 1358 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 2: extension just yet as the Clippers head coach. Why is 1359 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 2: that what's going on with the Clippers and tying down 1360 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 2: ty Lou long term as their coach. 1361 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's more cheese and eyes than any 1362 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 7: sign that these talks could break down. I think that 1363 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 7: knowing Steve Omer's wallet, which is pretty thick, that they 1364 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 7: will find a number to keep him. I think the 1365 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 7: other thing that we hate to have to keep in 1366 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 7: mind that the timing of it doesn't necessarily mean that 1367 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 7: all of a sudden Tyler could become available. He still 1368 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 7: has one year left on his contract, so thankfully for 1369 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 7: the Clippers and for Montse's stress level, there's no scenario 1370 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 7: that all of a sudden the Lakers could swoop in. 1371 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 7: It would have to be about you know, trading him 1372 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 7: or you know, breaking up the contract, which I don't 1373 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 7: think would happen. 1374 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, can you just tell the Lakers to get their 1375 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 4: fingers off of Tylure. The best thing I read, I 1376 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 4: think it was today the headline Lakers really intrigued by 1377 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 4: JJ Reddick? How much truth is behind JJ Reddick possibly 1378 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 4: becoming the head coach of the Lakers. 1379 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of trist to it. I 1380 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 7: think that you know, they view him as someone that 1381 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 7: has a really bread maastful mind. He can relate to 1382 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 7: not only obviously the current NBA players because they're the contemporaries, 1383 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 7: but his podcast friends threatened Lebron James. But for what 1384 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 7: it's worth that, you know, you always have to step 1385 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 7: through information. But the peomint that I got is that 1386 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 7: that they were trying to lean towards someone who had experience, 1387 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 7: because usually what happens when you fire a coach, is 1388 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 7: you instinctively look for the qualities that that head coach 1389 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 7: didn't happen have sort coming I thought he had was 1390 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 7: his lack of experience, not able to make adjustments. And 1391 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,800 Speaker 7: so while I do think that JJ Reddick has a 1392 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,920 Speaker 7: throng basketball acumen, I think it's just inevitable that there's 1393 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 7: concerns that he's never been in the head coaching team before. 1394 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 7: That's have to say that they won't hire him. But 1395 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of boxes they have to 1396 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 7: check moving forward about you know, would JJ Reddicks be 1397 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 7: actually able to hold Lebron accountable? Would he have veteran 1398 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 7: coaches around him to you know, help him through his 1399 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 7: learning curves. I think with that the Lakers are keeping 1400 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 7: open mind, and I think it is also trouble in that, 1401 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 7: as far as I know, there haven't been any deep conversations. 1402 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 7: Like before Frank Bogel's firing from Phoenix, the feeling was 1403 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 7: that Mike Budenholzer could be a preferred candidate, and all 1404 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 7: of a sudden, the Sun swoop in and hire him 1405 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 7: right away. So yeah, I would think that the NBA 1406 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 7: drives combine this weekend, bringing some more talks, but so 1407 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 7: far it's mostly quiet. 1408 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1409 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 2: My guess on Budenholtzer is Lebron said no, And I mean, 1410 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 2: what's the story on Budenholzer. Obviously he was with Atlanta, 1411 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 2: had some modest success. He obviously had a lot more success, 1412 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 2: winning an NBA championship of the Bucks, and then all 1413 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 2: of a sudden he was out. 1414 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 3: He's not been coaching since. 1415 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 2: Now he's going to get another opportunity with the Sons, 1416 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,919 Speaker 2: a team that's going through it's third coach in three years. 1417 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you hire Frank Vogel, you fire him after 1418 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 2: one year, that's pretty nuts right there. But what is 1419 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 2: the buzz on Budenholzer and why certain teams are just 1420 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 2: not quite interested in a guy that has a pretty 1421 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 2: successful resume. 1422 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the boss a Bullenholzer. He's been a 1423 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 7: respected NBA coach. I mean, he's from Greig Papovach's coaching three. 1424 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 7: As you mentioned, He's had plenty of experience in Atlanta 1425 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 7: and Milwaukee. I think that when you're looking at the 1426 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 7: reason behind his firing in Milwaukee is that they felt 1427 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 7: like same thing with darkod Ham, that he wasn't quite 1428 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 7: up to stuff when it came to making in game adjustments, 1429 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 7: and I think with that that would probably be one 1430 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,440 Speaker 7: of the main reasons why the Lakers had some apprehension 1431 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 7: with him, because he's come from a similar cloth with 1432 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 7: Dartin he's part of the coaching staff. But want to 1433 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 7: be too dramatic of the difference, but I think that 1434 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 7: he's a good head coach. And to your point about 1435 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,639 Speaker 7: Frank Bogel being let go with Phoenix, while he certainly 1436 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,120 Speaker 7: isn't blameless to get swept in the first round, with 1437 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,680 Speaker 7: that kind of talent, there's a lot of blame to 1438 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 7: go around. But in fairness to Frank, that was the 1439 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 7: defensive challenge. Rosters very top heavy and Frank's specialtyals is 1440 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 7: on the defensive side of the floor. In Mike Budenholzer's case, 1441 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 7: he's more seen as an offensive specialist. So maybe they 1442 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,320 Speaker 7: can tap in but more on that end of the floor. 1443 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 7: But unless they make dramatic changes to their I don't 1444 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 7: think that fundamentally they're going to change things. The problem 1445 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 7: with Phoenix is that they really don't have an avenue 1446 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,720 Speaker 7: to make fundamental changes unless they decide, you know what, 1447 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,960 Speaker 7: let's trade Kevin Durant and or Devin Booker, and that 1448 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 7: would be a sign that they're ready to go and 1449 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 7: rebuild mode. And I don't think that's what Miss Mattishie 1450 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:19,799 Speaker 7: is thinking right now as the owner. 1451 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark, So the semifinals a lot of fun games. 1452 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 4: I feel that the Mavericks are slowly becoming the favorite 1453 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 4: in the West. We saw the Nuggets. They bounced back 1454 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 4: Game three, they totally bounced back, but we saw them 1455 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 4: completely get crushed by the Timberwolves. 1456 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 1: Now the Mavericks have stolen one from OKC. 1457 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 4: They win today, they seem to be jelling despite the 1458 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 4: fact that Luka Doncic is injured and crippled and all 1459 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 4: the good stuff. 1460 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 1: Are they becoming the favorite? 1461 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 7: I think it's hard to say they're the favorite only 1462 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 7: because I think you could make a really compelling case 1463 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 7: for Dallas, Oklahoma City, Denver, Minnesota. 1464 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 3: But I think to. 1465 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,640 Speaker 7: Your larger point on say that Dallas is showing that 1466 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 7: they could seriously beat Oklahoma City. They had the right stuff. 1467 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,680 Speaker 7: They have Luka Dodja, who obviously is a star. He 1468 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 7: could have won MVP this year even with his injuries. 1469 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,720 Speaker 7: He has a way of playing through the pain and 1470 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,160 Speaker 7: still producing. Unlike last seasons, you have Kyrie Irving, who 1471 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 7: has shown a lot of great chemistry with Lucas. They 1472 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 7: know how to play off each other, and they also 1473 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 7: have a great supporting cast PJ. Washington Derek Wiley the 1474 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 7: second most notably, and I think that that is a 1475 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 7: shark contrast the last season and prior seasons with Luca, 1476 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,760 Speaker 7: where it was just about him carrying the season, and 1477 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 7: right now it's the complete team. Does that mean that 1478 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 7: they're definitely going to beat Oklahoma City? Not necessarily shake 1479 01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 7: elj justs Aalen Sanders the MVP Canada. They have blue 1480 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 7: door one infest defenders, one of the reasons why Luka 1481 01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 7: Doctas had a bore Game one. But Dallas has all 1482 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,160 Speaker 7: the righting ordiens to seriously challenge them and not predict 1483 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 7: a seven game series that could really go either way. 1484 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 2: So Mark, before the playoffs, we've talked to you and 1485 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 2: you know, based on the regular season, we all seem 1486 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,840 Speaker 2: to agree the Celtics are the team to beat. They 1487 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 2: have experience in the postseason. They'd been to the Eastern 1488 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Conference Finals for the last five years, they. 1489 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 3: Just haven't broken through to win a championship. 1490 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 2: Then they blow out the Calves in Game one at 1491 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,640 Speaker 2: Boston and they're like, Okay, T D. 1492 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 3: Gardens should be a nice season. Then they lose by 1493 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 3: twenty four at home. 1494 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,240 Speaker 2: I mean how, I mean, how do you explain what 1495 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 2: happened to the Celtics Game two against Miami now Game 1496 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,600 Speaker 2: two against the Cavaliers. Was there just a general disinterest 1497 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,640 Speaker 2: in showing up for every game? And if that is 1498 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,360 Speaker 2: the case, I mean, maybe they'll blitz creak the Calves 1499 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 2: just like they did Miami after losing that home game 1500 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,559 Speaker 2: in game number two. But how do you explain a 1501 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 2: team like the Celtics just not showing up in a 1502 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,799 Speaker 2: playoff game like they did Game two against the Calves. 1503 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 7: Well state, only for the Celtics, this is who they are. 1504 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 7: They played down in their competition. Ironically, in the playoffs. 1505 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 7: Their home record has been worse in the past seasons 1506 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 7: compared to the road, so they only plan at their 1507 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,679 Speaker 7: best when they feel challenged. Now, maybe you could argue 1508 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 7: that the good side because they're so talented and when 1509 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,679 Speaker 7: they go deeper, that's when they play at their best. 1510 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 7: But I think that they're running the risk of lean 1511 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 7: into that formula for two reasons. We still don't know 1512 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,559 Speaker 7: when if Chris Haswerzingis is even going to return, and 1513 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 7: number two, I don't think having that attitude is good 1514 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,360 Speaker 7: enough for whichever team they face in the West. I 1515 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 7: still think they get to the NBA Finals. I think 1516 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,640 Speaker 7: that ironically, they don't have a pounceback game Bree. I 1517 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 7: would be surprised if they even blowed Cleveland out on 1518 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 7: their home four, because that's just what Boston does. But 1519 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,439 Speaker 7: I don't think from what I've seen that they're good 1520 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 7: enough to beat any of those four contended West teams 1521 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 7: that I talked about earlier. Oklahoma City, Dallas, dead in Minnesota, 1522 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 7: and it's unfortunate for Monston because they've had the championship 1523 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,120 Speaker 7: window for a while. Jason Tata has been more efficient, 1524 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,680 Speaker 7: Jalen Browse been more efficient versus Porsingas has been a 1525 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 7: game changer. Drew Holliday has been a great defender with 1526 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 7: mitigating Marcus Smart's departure. But it got a play up 1527 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,679 Speaker 7: to your competition, it can't be completed, and I think 1528 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 7: that inevitably in the NBA Finals, that concern, as well 1529 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,320 Speaker 7: as off Porzinga's lack of availability, is ultimately going to 1530 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 7: catch up to them. Not so much that they might 1531 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 7: lose a game like they have so far in the 1532 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 7: verst the second round, but that they'd actually lose a 1533 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 7: series in the NBA Finals. 1534 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: Does the winner come out of the West? Mark? 1535 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, the winner's definitely coming out of the West. 1536 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 7: And I thought, as you vote, may recall that it 1537 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,800 Speaker 7: was going to be Denver to lose, assuming good health. 1538 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,800 Speaker 7: But I've spent splipped that if I had a pick 1539 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:56,200 Speaker 7: out of those four games, I think it's Minnesota. I mean, 1540 01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 7: Anta Edwards has shown he is a real deal. While 1541 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,639 Speaker 7: I think that has been a stretch to start doing 1542 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 7: the Michael Jordan comparisons, because Michael Jordan has a full 1543 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 7: resume and and the Edwards just say it started to 1544 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 7: see why that conversation has started. He has the qualities 1545 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 7: gave the game that remind you of them. 1546 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 2: Dude. 1547 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 7: That's not to say that he's empty right now, but 1548 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 7: he has the qualities that you remind you of. The 1549 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 7: Other thing is that they have a complete team part 1550 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 7: of the town. I think it's the best uh A 1551 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 7: big band that can also shoot in the NBA. And 1552 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 7: I was talking to his trainer earlier this week. He 1553 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 7: was saying that when he got injured last season. He 1554 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 7: don't have the blessing in this guy is because it 1555 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,479 Speaker 7: allowed and the Edwards to grow into a bigger role. 1556 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 7: And I think what that it was straight to everyone 1557 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 7: plays as a team. There's no egos or so personality clashes. 1558 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,520 Speaker 7: And that also extends to Rudy goal Bear in their chemistry. 1559 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 7: So any of those fourteenths have the case. But my 1560 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,959 Speaker 7: money is now in the Minnesota every Wolves. 1561 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Well, we got series that at least look competitive, at 1562 01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,640 Speaker 2: least at this point. We'll see how they play out 1563 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,919 Speaker 2: as a countdown to the conference finals. 1564 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,400 Speaker 3: Mark great stuff is always. We'll talk to you next Saturday. 1565 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 7: Always are you there? 1566 01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 2: You go, Mark Medina, join us there. He is our 1567 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,840 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio NBA insider. All right, coming up on 1568 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 2: the other side, I'm gonna tell you of the remaining teams, 1569 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:21,240 Speaker 2: which team definitely will not win the. 1570 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,080 Speaker 3: NBA Championship this year. Yeah, I'll tell you which one, 1571 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 3: and I'll tell you why. 1572 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:30,440 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvy, Montzi Belogios. 1573 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 3: Here Fox Sports Saturday. 1574 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,800 Speaker 2: We are live from the ti Iraq dot Com studios. 1575 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody today. Martin of course came 1576 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,719 Speaker 2: in and just do it a great job before everybody 1577 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 2: for his own show. 1578 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a hustler, baby. 1579 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,439 Speaker 3: Luca's on the board today. Ryan came in today. 1580 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Ryan, I know, but Ryan's too cool for school. 1581 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 3: I was dragged in by the way when I saw you, 1582 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 3: and I was like, how did this happen? I was threatened? 1583 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 3: Is that what happened here? No? No, I'm very happy 1584 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 3: to be here on my day off. Well, Ryan, we 1585 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,599 Speaker 3: appreciate it. Some good tunes spun for sure. And then Patrick, 1586 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 3: of course our steam producer. Patrick, just how much has 1587 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,639 Speaker 3: your star power grown with your association with this show? 1588 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,679 Speaker 3: It triples by the week, I would imagine. 1589 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 1: Love that. 1590 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, great job by everybody on the show today. 1591 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,559 Speaker 2: All right, so I'm going to tell you right now 1592 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 2: it's one team that is guaranteed not to win the 1593 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 2: NBA Championship this year, and that team is the Clippers, 1594 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,679 Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets. Why they're done? 1595 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 1: Why? Okay, did you watch Game three? 1596 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 3: They're done? 1597 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 1: Do you know some guy named Nicola Jokic. 1598 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 3: Well, he's the reason why they will not win the championship. 1599 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Nicola Jokic was just named the NBA's most Valuable Player. 1600 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 3: Correct. 1601 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 1: Shock didn't like that uh huh, that's bad news. 1602 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,599 Speaker 2: Why because the last eight NBA MVPs have not won 1603 01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:03,600 Speaker 2: the championship. 1604 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:04,559 Speaker 3: That's right. 1605 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 2: Joki, remember has been the MVP three of the last 1606 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,280 Speaker 2: four years. The one year he wasn't was last year 1607 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 2: and they won the championship. The last guy to win 1608 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,680 Speaker 2: the regular season MVP and then win the NBA Championship 1609 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 2: with Steph Curry back in twenty fifteen. But let me 1610 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 2: take it a step further. In the last twenty years 1611 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 2: before this year, the regular season MVP only won the 1612 01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,360 Speaker 2: championship three times. That was back to back years with 1613 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 2: Lebron when he was in Miami in twenty twelve and 1614 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,680 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen and Stephan twenty fifteen with the Warriors. The 1615 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:46,120 Speaker 2: other seventeen NBA this is Kevin Garnett, Steve Nash twice, 1616 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 2: Dirk Novitzky, Kobe Bryant, Lebron twice, Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, 1617 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,719 Speaker 2: Steph Curry the second time, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Giannis twice, 1618 01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:00,439 Speaker 2: Nicola Jokic twice. Mb last year not winners in terms 1619 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 2: of a championship the Denver Nuggets, with Jokich winning the 1620 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,400 Speaker 2: MVP of the regular season out, they will not win 1621 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 2: the NBA chick Oh no. 1622 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,400 Speaker 1: Is this a curse winning the regular season MVP? 1623 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I should preface this. 1624 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 1: Is that why he didn't want to win it? He 1625 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 1: was like, I don't care. 1626 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:21,599 Speaker 2: So we had the NCAA Basketball Tournament, right, And I 1627 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 2: had that stat that in the forty previous tournament, only 1628 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,759 Speaker 2: five of the previous forty years had the team ranked 1629 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,280 Speaker 2: number one in the final eight people going into the 1630 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,400 Speaker 2: tournament gone on to win the championship. 1631 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 3: So I'm like, you cod has been eliminated. 1632 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:38,679 Speaker 1: Gone. 1633 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,000 Speaker 2: And then I filled out my bracket and I put 1634 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 2: in you Cod. And because of that, we had like 1635 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,719 Speaker 2: what thirty two brackets filled. 1636 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 3: Out here I finished. I think it was fourth, yeah, 1637 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 3: third or fourth yeah? 1638 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 4: Because they did you spread misinformation, Steve, people someday doing it. 1639 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 1: You sneakily went and picked you. 1640 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,760 Speaker 2: I just I'm just giving you a stat. You can 1641 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 2: do with whatever you want to do with a stat. 1642 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:09,799 Speaker 3: But in the last twenty years, twenty years, the regular 1643 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 3: season MVP has only gone on to win the championship 1644 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,680 Speaker 3: three times again Lebron back to back years with the 1645 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,640 Speaker 3: Heat and then Steph's first MVP award with the Warriors. 1646 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,240 Speaker 3: The last eight. 1647 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 2: Go home empty handed, So you can use it any 1648 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 2: way you want. My job is to supply the information. 1649 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 2: So I'm the stat guy and I'm giving you the 1650 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 2: stat and you could double down on Denver to win, saying, well, 1651 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,640 Speaker 2: it seems like anytime you try to prognosticate Harman you 1652 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:44,719 Speaker 2: come up a loser. 1653 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 3: A'm not gonna deny. 1654 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 1: That, yest. 1655 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 4: You make an excellent point with these stats, and it 1656 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,000 Speaker 4: doesn't help that the West is right now so competive. 1657 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm asking you right now, who's coming out of 1658 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 3: the West want the maps on? 1659 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 1: You're going with the map, going with the maps. 1660 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,200 Speaker 4: The maps were already so close without Kyrie Irving, with 1661 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,519 Speaker 4: just Luka Doncic Kyrie Irving. 1662 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,400 Speaker 1: I we have to give him credit for what he 1663 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:11,640 Speaker 1: has done, taking. 1664 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 4: A backseat quote unquote to Luca Derek Lively also playing 1665 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 4: really well. 1666 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 1: It's not just both of them, they are playing well, 1667 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 1: all of them. 1668 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So now you're because you just said, are you 1669 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,920 Speaker 2: with Mark Mendina on this as far as the west. 1670 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:26,840 Speaker 3: Will, the winds will? 1671 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,000 Speaker 1: Yes? And I'm taking the maps. 1672 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,040 Speaker 3: Okay, here we are here, we are on this May eleventh. 1673 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,120 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, taking the maps. Where are you taking? Don't 1674 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 1: just tell me what are you taking? 1675 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,760 Speaker 3: All right, let me think about this for a second. Here, 1676 01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 3: fair two, all right. My pick to win the NBA Championship.