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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the forty Niners You've Got Mail podcast

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Speaker 1: sponsored by Manscape. This week, I'm excited to bring on

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Speaker 1: somebody that I would say knows this. The forty Niner

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Speaker 1: is not just the team, but the organization very well.

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Speaker 1: A guy who has donned the red and gold. Former

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Speaker 1: Mr Tequio spikes te Kuio, how is it going? What's

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Speaker 1: going on in your world right now? Uh? You know

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Speaker 1: right now, m I just took a break from watching

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Speaker 1: some film. I'm always watching what can the forty Niners

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Speaker 1: do in order to have success. I'm also looking at

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Speaker 1: the opposing team, which this week is the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: big time rivalry. When you talk about the NFC West,

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Speaker 1: which I, like unbiased lee think is the best division

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Speaker 1: in pro football. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I have that same argument.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the talent, and you look

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Speaker 1: at these teams, you look at what they bring. I

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Speaker 1: mean bringing in J. J. Watt to Arizona and A. J. Green,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford to l A. They bring in DeShawn DeShawn Jackson,

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Speaker 1: that speezer, and then Seattle's always Seattle regardless of what

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Speaker 1: their record is, you know what they have um at

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Speaker 1: the helm, especially having a guy like Russell Wilson, DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockebo. We can go on and on and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about it that just a bit. But you're

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Speaker 1: a true professional already breaking down film, analyzing the way

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Speaker 1: it's forty Niners can get better after that game we

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Speaker 1: saw and week three. But before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: to Kyo, we have to talk about something extremely important

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Speaker 1: and uh, something that I know you are extremely proud of,

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Speaker 1: and that is a Hall of Fame nomination for this

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Speaker 1: former NFL linebacker te Quill Spikes. Congratulations on that. That

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Speaker 1: is huge news. I just getting that news. Where were

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Speaker 1: you when you heard it? What was your initial reaction

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Speaker 1: like as it felt a little real to you yet

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Speaker 1: h Man, thank you first of all, and I gotta

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Speaker 1: answer the question because you asked it. So I was actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I had a burrito and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I decided to put out my phone and I was

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Speaker 1: scrolling and I was like, oh shoot today, But it

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Speaker 1: was trust me. The best throne movement that I ever had. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: any good news in there is always a good thing,

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Speaker 1: but I'm definitely humbled. Um it's you know what the

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Speaker 1: big thing is? Key is what I really appreciate about

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Speaker 1: it is people took time. The voters took time to

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Speaker 1: really look at my career, not just as a snippet

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Speaker 1: they more so looked at the why. And people can argue, well,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a super Bowl ring. Uh, he didn't

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Speaker 1: play for any championships. He didn't even play for any

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But I think the big thing what

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Speaker 1: who come up to me giving me congratulations, is how

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Speaker 1: could you play at a level for so high for

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Speaker 1: so long and you always believe that it was going

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Speaker 1: to get better when most of the teams that you

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Speaker 1: Another thing they talked about was even though you played

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Speaker 1: on five teams, thank god for free agency I got.

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Speaker 1: I got an opportunity to see what all of America

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Speaker 1: looks like because of it. But the big thing was

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Speaker 1: that out of the fifteen years that you played, you

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Speaker 1: and that's something that I took lightly when I was

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Speaker 1: tell you straight up, is quite humbling and uh, definitely

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Speaker 1: is one of the biggest honors to this day that

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Speaker 1: And I didn't even know that number of your fifteen

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Speaker 1: about that because in our other podcasts are in scripted podcast. UM.

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Speaker 1: And just looking at your career to here and just

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Speaker 1: it's exciting for us to see, you know, you being

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Speaker 1: So but with that, of those fifteen years, three were

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Speaker 1: you on the spot here. I want to know what's

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Speaker 1: your favorite moment in Red and Gold. Ah, my favorite moment?

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Speaker 1: I would say my favorite moment was that the first year.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, Mike Nolan, he used to do

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Speaker 1: his captain's by game performance and I remember towards the

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Speaker 1: middle part of the year, I got into a groove

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Speaker 1: say probably the greatest memory that I had was the

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Speaker 1: I made it clear like, bro, like my time is

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Speaker 1: my time, and I'm I am who I am, but

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Speaker 1: however I can assist you and to be nominated like unanimously.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget the day that uh, Mike Singletary said

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Speaker 1: So when you talk about Jimmy Ward, like I know

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Speaker 1: exactly what was going through his mind because it's it's

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Speaker 1: and the responsibility for it. And I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: gonna wreck it. No, But that's a it's a fantastic analogy. Um,

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Speaker 1: real question? What made this unit so special? This forty

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Speaker 1: always draws right back to this area you guys were in.

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Speaker 1: The to give you the real answer, it was, I

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Speaker 1: But two, I think it comes from a different perspective

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Speaker 1: and analyze him a lot. I know Dre greenlaws out

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Speaker 1: they're playing better and cohesively together. So right now, that's

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Speaker 1: what it looks like with forty Niners going into this game,

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Speaker 1: but I had so many topics I wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: whole day. So let's see this. I want to wrap

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Speaker 1: everything up, and I want to talk about this matchup

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Speaker 1: we have here on Sunday. Is there a specific matchup

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Speaker 1: most excited to see on Sunday? Ah, that's a very

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Speaker 1: good question, and I'm going to let me. Let me

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Speaker 1: pull out my let me pull out my notes, right say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: while you get out the notes, I'm gonna drop a

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Speaker 1: couple of things that I'm very interested in seeing. And

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest one for me is how do

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners cornerbacks bounce back in Week four? And

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Speaker 1: you're going against guys like DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett.

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Speaker 1: And we know that uh Josh Norman is dealing with

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Speaker 1: that lung contusion, so his availability is still up in

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Speaker 1: the air for the Niners said they're gonna monitor it.

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Speaker 1: He has some testing that has to come back which

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Speaker 1: will weigh a lot on what he's able to do.

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Speaker 1: So you still have questions there, and I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of their performance. I mean, obviously it's going to

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Speaker 1: guess I just gave you two of my answers. It's

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Speaker 1: how the cornerbacks bounce back? And how does this d

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Speaker 1: line get consistent pressure on Russell Wilson, which we know

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Speaker 1: he what I think. I remember Defores Buckner a few

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Speaker 1: years ago said he like a you know, he called

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray a squirrel, but he told said that that

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is. He's slippery, he's hard to get ahold of.

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Speaker 1: So I would say those are the matchups I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to most. How about you? I agree, And and well,

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Speaker 1: I'll flipping on the other side. I'm a defensive guy

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Speaker 1: and I'll let you take the defense, so I'll go

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side because I can do both of them.

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Speaker 1: But when I look at matchups, I look at the corners.

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Speaker 1: I look at DJ Reid and Trey Flowers from Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks being mashed up against a Brandon. I you can

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Speaker 1: also Deebo Samuel. They got the worst secondary in the league.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the Seattle Seahawks. I had the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to watch all three games that they played, and

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Speaker 1: what I see consistently shows up not only just from

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Speaker 1: the first game, but it leaks over into the last

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Speaker 1: game that they played. We meaning the forty Niners have

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Speaker 1: problems stopping the deep pass, well, guess what, the Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks have a problem doing that as well, anytime the

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Speaker 1: ball is in the air. To me, I think the

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Speaker 1: weak link of the Seattle Seahawks defense is DJ Reid.

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Speaker 1: He is continuously on highlights. Even times when he makes plays,

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Speaker 1: he's called for penalties. And I think we've been saying

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Speaker 1: this the entire time, like everybody's saying, Jimmy g is

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Speaker 1: not throwing the ball down to field. Well, you have

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Speaker 1: to understand he's doing what the offense is calling him

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Speaker 1: to do. But what I'm calling for something to happen

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Speaker 1: is for Kyle Shanahan to say, look, Jimmy, we gotta

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Speaker 1: throw the football down the field in order for us

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Speaker 1: to make teams start to play us honest, because you

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Speaker 1: got a fifty percent ratio when you're playing against a

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Speaker 1: one on one coverage that he's going to catch it.

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Speaker 1: And also the other fifty percent is now we can

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Speaker 1: create a pass an inference called which I talked about

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Speaker 1: a few minutes ago with DJ Reid having problems playing

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Speaker 1: the ball in the air one on deep ball. So

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Speaker 1: I like this matchup right here, and more than anything,

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Speaker 1: even if you don't connect, what it tells the defensive

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Speaker 1: unit is. I know what Ken Norton has been telling

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Speaker 1: us the entire week. Hey, they don't throw it deep.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you, as a player, you think, man,

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Speaker 1: here we go again, Like they're not doing what we

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Speaker 1: we thought that they were going to do. And so

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Speaker 1: now if it relies on you being able to adjust

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Speaker 1: and you're playing different things outside of the norm of

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Speaker 1: what you saw the entire week, that's what I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing. That's gonna be a fun matchup. And

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Speaker 1: I say that because I think, and I look at

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Speaker 1: what Deo Samuel has been able to do in year three.

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Speaker 1: He's healthy, he's more comfortable, and it's just such a

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Speaker 1: dynamic piece of this offense. What now, I think he's

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Speaker 1: currently second in the NFL and receiving yards um he's

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Speaker 1: getting I think of the forty Niners target share through

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Speaker 1: three weeks. And then you couple that with George Kittle

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Speaker 1: and we all know what he's capable of. And you

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Speaker 1: have Brandon I who I know people had questions going

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Speaker 1: into the beginning of the year, but I think really

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Speaker 1: had a nice outing last week against Green Bay and

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Speaker 1: and everyone talks about his route running, which is bar none.

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Speaker 1: So I I love your response to this. I think

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Speaker 1: that's probably what I'm looking forward to most is how

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Speaker 1: can this offense, especially get started quick, get started fast,

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Speaker 1: and get started early, because we know they've kind of

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Speaker 1: had a lull in these last two matchups, and could

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Speaker 1: this be the week that they actually get off on

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Speaker 1: the right foot, not playing from behind as they have

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Speaker 1: in weeks past. We shall see. But with that, t Kio,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. I appreciate the insight. Um. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you just being here with us and and taking

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Speaker 1: us on a little stroll down memory lane and also

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Speaker 1: chatting about this current forty Niners team. For everybody that

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Speaker 1: is listening, you get to see Takio if you're not

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Speaker 1: already following on social media, which you should be, but

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Speaker 1: you can also check him out on NBC Sports Bay

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Speaker 1: areas pregame and post game. You're on both, right, yep,

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Speaker 1: I'm on both speaking the gospel. You can catch them

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Speaker 1: speaking in gospel and hopefully Sunday speaking about a forty

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Speaker 1: niners win as they host the Seattle Seahawks. With that, Takio,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, and I'll let you get back to watching

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Speaker 1: with them, all right, alright, continuing