1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford sitting alongside the 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: one and only Wes Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: from our studio at lambeau Field West Packers Vikings at 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: lambeau Field Sunday. It'll be a noon Central Time kickoff 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: five and one versus one and five. But as we say, 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: certainly in division rivalries and in the border rivalry, as 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: this one is often called, you can forget about those numbers. 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: This is this is an interesting one because the Packers, 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: it's a game, obviously they're going to be expected to win. 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: The Vikings are coming off their bye week. There's been 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: some turmoil and whatnot. They've you know, they traded away 13 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: one of their best defensive players. Who who that defensive player? 14 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Yannick and go Unique. Sorry we had to worry about 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: that for the all of one game for the record, Yeah, okay, 16 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: you got a Gockway right though. Yeah, well that's the 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: one I've been working but in Gockway no longer with 18 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: the Vikings. He's been traded away. Danil Hunter, the other 19 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: star pass rusher, is out for the season after next surgery. 20 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: This Vikings defense West, it's not the Vikings defense that 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: we've seen in the past, and they've got they've got 22 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: a cornerback issue right now. Two of their top four corners, 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Holting the Hill and Mike Hughes are on the injury 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: report right now, and a third cornerback, rookie Cameron Danceler, 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: the third round pick, is on the COVID reserve list. 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: This is this is going to This is going to 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: be an interesting matchup to see just exactly what Vikings team, 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: especially defensively, is on the field Sunday exactly, And you'd 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: laid it out perfectly, particularly with the with the secondary 30 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: issues they're having there. It's a young secondary to begin with, 31 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: and now they have a litany of injuries that have 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: followed this very much is about the Packers. I want 33 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: to say, I don't want to say it's not, but 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: I think it ultimately is going to be what Minnesota 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Vikings team do we see come into lambeau Field on 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. One, just from the physical standpoint, pretty banged 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: up despite coming out of the bye week at at 38 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: meaningful positions. But two, they had such a dichotomy of 39 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: games before their bye week. They played Seattle so tough, right, 40 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: went right down to the wire and came up short. 41 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: They absolutely should have won that football game. And then 42 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: they come back the next week thinking that, hey, maybe 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: we should be able to knock off a previously winless 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons team. They're not able to do it. That's 45 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: a really difficult way to go in the bye week. 46 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: You and I always talk about, you know, there's probably 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: one game a year where maybe we really are truly 48 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: pulling for a big victory, and as a reporter, it's 49 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: typically going into a bye week because those negative thoughts 50 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: linger with the fan base, they linger with the locker room. 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: It just it creates sort of this doubt factor, right, 52 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: and I think that's something that the Minnesota Vikings are 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: going to be really battling this week, in addition to 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: the fact that their secondary, more specifically that cornerback position 55 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: is really hurting here going into this matchup. Well, this 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: is a tough Vikings team to figure out because, as 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned, they lost to the Atlanta Falcons when everybody thought, Okay, 58 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: this will be there, get well game, you know, chalk 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: up another victory that didn't happen. But yet two of 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL, the Seattle Seahawks and 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, were both taken right to the wire 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: by this Minnesota Vikings team. So, as you said, it's 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: it's sort of which which team is going to show 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: up On the injury front for the Packers, we're seeing 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: the Packers starting to get a little bit healthier. Al 66 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: Lazard Christian Kirksey are both back at practice. So the 67 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: twenty one day window for them coming off of I 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: R where there's now the window for them to be 69 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: activated and activated to the fifty three man roster, that 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: clock is now ticking. But I think for the the 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: more immediate with regards to this week and the Vikings game, 72 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: David Bakti is back at practice, Tyler Irvine is back 73 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: at practice, Darnell Savage, who missed last week's game, is 74 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: back at practice now, Kevin King and Aaron Jones are 75 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: still not at practice, and suddenly Mason Crosby is on 76 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: the injury report for the Packers as well. So we 77 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: will see what happens as the rest of the week 78 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: unfolds there. But for all of the injuries the Packers 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: have been dealing with, it seems that the health trend 80 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: is even though there are nineteen guys listed on the 81 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: injury report, the overall health trend in terms of participation 82 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: might be trending in the right direction. Well, this is 83 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: why it's important, right because you and I don't know 84 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: how many of these guys will legitimately be playing on Sunday. 85 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: But the fact that David Boxer was able to practice 86 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, that's a pretty good sign. With the chess 87 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: injury that I think everyone's sort of been no pun 88 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: intended holding their breath over. And then you look over 89 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: at at Tyler Irvin, I mean a risk injury like 90 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: that that he dealt with early on and then it 91 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: ends up sidelining him for two games. You really don't 92 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: know what to make of that from the outside looking in. 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: That's not a hamstring, that's not a quadricept that that's 94 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: it's a risk. So it makes you kind of raise 95 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: some questions in your mind of Okay, what's the forecast 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: here for him? And then also the biggest thing is 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: al Lazard being back. A core muscle injury is something 98 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: that they went in and repaired. That can be a 99 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: lot of different things, And I always go back to 100 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve that injury kept out Greg Jennings 101 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: for seven games. Now, again we have to see exactly 102 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: what the forecast is going to be here for Lazard, 103 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: how much of a rev up period they want to 104 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: give him. But the fact that they did start that 105 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: clock would indicate that they feel like he can get 106 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: back here in the month of November. That is absolutely 107 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: critical for this receiving corps and seeing exactly what this 108 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: guy brings, because it's not just the number two receiver role. 109 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: It's the fact that he can play in line. It's 110 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: the fact that they can do reversals with him. Al 111 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Lazard is as much as we've talked about him this season, 112 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: he's a really underrated part of this offense now in 113 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: what they're able to use him and how they're able 114 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: to utilize him, in addition to the fact that he 115 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: can be a big play threat down field. Yeah, and 116 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: and he's arguably the Packers best blocker amongst the wide 117 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: receivers as well in terms of helping the run game. 118 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: And if you don't think that's a big deal, just 119 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: go watch the film of the Houston game and Brandon 120 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: Cooks for the Houston Texans. The guy didn't throw a 121 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: block on the edge, like the whole game in Houston's 122 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: running game suffered because of it. So I'll just throw 123 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: that out there as well. But it's at extra credit plays, right, Absolutely, 124 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: It's not stuff that's gonna get you in anyone's fantasy. 125 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: Are you a complete player when you step on the 126 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: field and there are some guys who are and some 127 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: guys who are And if you're gonna do bunch formations 128 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: like the way that Matt Lafleur wants to do them, 129 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to block. It's critical, yeah, 130 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: quickly before we get to our our keys to victory. 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If this if this Minnesota secondary 139 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: is as banged up as it appears, and if they 140 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: are dipping into their depth chart as far as they 141 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: may need to. On Sunday. I know, we talk about 142 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: the running game, and certainly Jamal Williams, if Aaron Jones 143 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: is sitting out another game, Jamal Williams will handle whatever 144 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: load you give him. But boy, with the state of 145 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: this Vikings cornerback group, you wonder if do you not 146 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: just turn the game over to Aaron Rodgers and say, go, 147 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean how they had all their guys granted, a 148 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: couple of rookies, you know, making their NFL debuts without 149 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: any preseason games back in Week one. But but this cornerback, 150 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: this cornerback group is is not healthy for Minnesota. Well, 151 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: and the fact is right now, Mike, to underscore exactly 152 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: how banged up there. They have eight cornerbacks on their 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: active roster right now. Um. When when you see a 154 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: team over sort of inflate a position over the course 155 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: of the year, that tells you there's some concerns there. 156 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: It tells you that they're you know, whether the injuries, 157 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: the inconsistency, what have you. Um, that's an uphill battle 158 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: that they're going to have to climb. Mike Zimmer is 159 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: as smart of a defensive coach as there is in 160 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: this league head coach, defensive coordinator. He's he's there, right. 161 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm just really curious what that game plan is going 162 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: to be because you know they're gonna want to take 163 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: Davanta Adams and I wrote about it this week too, 164 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: But if you try to take him away, what are 165 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: you giving up elsewhere? And if you do live him 166 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: in one on one situations, you see what happened last 167 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: week with the Houston Texans. That's a huge, not necessarily 168 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: a weak spot because again I'm I'm giving Zimmer the 169 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. He's concocted some magnificent game plans before. 170 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: But that's just a major area concern for me going 171 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: into this game as it relates to Minnesota. Other thing too, 172 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: and this is no disrespect intended for the Vikings defense 173 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: because in a few minutes here, I'm going to completely 174 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: put their their offense over. But there are so many years, 175 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Mike where you look at the starting eleven, starting fifteen 176 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: for Minnesota and there's just playmakers all over the place. 177 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's the defensive line, that linebacking 178 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: corps or in the secondary. The names have kind of 179 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: waned here a little bit for them. You still have 180 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, Anthony Harris, and obviously, um you look at 181 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,119 Speaker 1: their you know, Eric Kendricks and what they have at linebacker. 182 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: But beyond that, it starts to get a little bit sparse. So, um, Minnesota, 183 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: if they're going to turn this thing around, they're gonna 184 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: have to do it unconventionally. They're gonna have to get 185 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: away from their blueprint the last few years. And this 186 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: is a tough opponent for them to have to do 187 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: that against. Yeah, this is a group that doesn't have 188 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: any big names right now on the defensive line in 189 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: terms of being able to pressure quarterbacks. So then you wonder, okay, 190 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: as zim are going to dial up all of these 191 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: crazy blitz is with Anthony Barr, Eric Kendricks, Harrison Smith. 192 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: But then if you do that, obviously you leaving that 193 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: back end, which which not only is banged up but 194 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: is also very young. As far as those cornerbacks, you're 195 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: leaving them more vulnerable if you're selling out to get 196 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. So the Minnesota defense is in a 197 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: tough spot. I will say this about that group though, 198 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: for as much as it has struggled this year, as 199 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: the Vikings have gone one in five, and I believe 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: they're ranked in the league in total yards allowed to 201 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: the thirtie in the league and points allowed. They are 202 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: ranked third in the league in third down defense, and 203 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: they are somewhere in the top ten in the league 204 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: in red zone defense. So there are there are areas 205 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: where this defense has risen up and made some plays. Now, 206 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: you wonder, how can you be thirtieth in the league 207 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: in points but third and third downs, It's like, well, 208 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: it's because the defense hasn't gotten the opposing offense and 209 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: enough third downs. So from the Packers point of view, 210 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: you just you have to be on your p's and 211 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: q's if it does get to third down. That's where 212 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: that this defense has been at its best this year, 213 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,359 Speaker 1: and those are going to be the most challenging plays. Yeah, absolutely, 214 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: Mike in you know, not to correct you on this, 215 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: but just to point out to I mean, they don't 216 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: have Anthony Barr right now either, right like he's he's 217 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: been on I R. So they have Eric wil No, 218 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: then that's okay, but Eric Wilson has been the one 219 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: that sort of stepped up. But that sort of illustrates 220 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: what they've been up against to this point of the season. 221 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: It's been a lot of that type of things. And 222 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: you know what, Mike, when you look at it, you 223 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: can go back to some of these Packers teams that 224 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: we've covered when injuries have really depleted them. Two thousandten 225 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: sort of jumps off to me right away. When that happens, 226 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: that's where you start to see the third downs, Wayne, 227 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: That's where you start to see the pass rush numbers. Wayne. 228 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: It starts with the personnel and then it all sort 229 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: of follows from there. So this has been a challenge 230 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: for Minnesota. Again, I'm not saying they can't come out 231 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: and play exceptionally well it's Mike Zimmer. They can do it. 232 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: But for Green Bay, I just think so much of 233 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: it is you built. You got your momentum back, right, 234 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: you got your mojo back last week against Houston. If 235 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: you can sustain that. On paper, this is a good 236 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: opponent to be able to have success against. Well. On 237 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball for the Packers when 238 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: you look when you look at this Vikings Off fense, 239 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is expected to be back. Alexander Madison the 240 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: number two running back. He filled in nicely at Seattle 241 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: and cracked the hundred yard barrier there when Cook had 242 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: gone out of the game. You've got Justin Jefferson, who 243 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: is really coming on as a rookie receiver. He's got 244 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: averaging nineteen yards a catch, wasn't much of a factor 245 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: in Week one when he was making his NFL debut. Obviously, 246 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: you have Adam thelan who's approven pro been there, done that. 247 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: He's got seven touchdown catches. Kirk Cousins, though, ten interceptions 248 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: through six games. That that is the biggest bugaboo for 249 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: this Vikings offense has been taking care of the football, 250 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: and that's that's the most important thing Minnesota has to 251 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: get fixed. And if you're the Packers, you're looking to 252 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: continue to disrupt Kirk Cousins, force him into some some inaccurate, 253 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: uncomfortable throws that perhaps you can take advantage of and 254 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: the Packers can maybe get the turnover thing going their 255 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: way on defense. Well, and ultimately you and I can 256 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: see here and talk forever about all the things that 257 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: have kind of worked against Minnesota to this point. But 258 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: when you look at the takeaway numbers, when you look 259 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: at the actual turnover margin, and that's where they've really 260 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: hurt this year because they have been given it up 261 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: too much and they just haven't been taken it away 262 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: enough right now, thirtieth in the league, I think minus 263 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: seven overall and turnover differentials, So that's where those numbers 264 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: show up. Kirk Cousins, when he was at his his 265 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: optimal point in this offense, and even going back to 266 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: his time with Washington when he was in a real groove, 267 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: it was that he was being efficient, he was being 268 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: high percentage with his throws and they're just weren't that 269 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: the turnovers there, he was being safe, protective. You can 270 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: call a game manager, you can call whatever you want, 271 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: but he was given his defense a chance to help 272 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: them win these ball games. That's what's worked against them 273 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: this year. Now. Conversely, if you don't take the ball 274 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: away from them, Minnesota really can still cause a lot 275 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: of havoc, especially if you get Delvin cooked back. I 276 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: think Madison also has shown he can be a bell 277 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: call when they need him to be. But the big 278 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: guy here for them, and it's going to be a 279 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: problem here for the Packers in the next decade to come. 280 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: As justin Jefferson Um, this young man has shown big 281 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: play potential right off the bat, but He can also 282 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: do possession stuff as well. He moves the chains, and 283 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: he's been that compliment that they needed for Adam Feeland here, 284 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, since Stefon Digs has had his up town 285 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: before the trade. And I just think that he's a 286 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: really good compliment for this offense and the vision of 287 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: where they want to get to. And if the Packers 288 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: aren't mindful of where Jefferson is, this guy can really 289 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: make you pay. Well. If Kevin King has to miss 290 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: another game, what are your thoughts on how Mike Petton 291 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: will match up as far as JayR, Alexander, Josh Jackson, 292 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: Adam Feland, justin Jefferson. What are your thoughts there? You know? 293 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: And one thing I'm gonna be interested to do that 294 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to do to this point of 295 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: the season. Maybe I should have used the bye week 296 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: for this was actually sit down and figure out how 297 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: much they've actually matched him against guys. Uh. To me, 298 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: it still feels like mostly they've played sides this year 299 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: and and they just let him cover his island and 300 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: take the rest from there. This is the type of 301 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: game where you probably still want to do that because 302 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: they can hurt you a number of different ways. But 303 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Jefferson is a guy that you need to know where 304 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: he's at on the field at all times. If it's 305 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: jayre and you want to go with that and just 306 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: give him that assignment and play off the rest of it. 307 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: I have full confidence in him at this point that 308 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: he can handle that, no problem. If he's not covering him, 309 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: that's where maybe you want to have the two shell. 310 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: You might want to have a safety over top of 311 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: the coverage and be aware of his whereabouts. But that's 312 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: the other issue here is that the more attention you 313 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: give a guy like Jefferson, the more that Adam Feeling 314 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: can hurt you, because he has hurt the Packers in 315 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: the past. The more that a guy like Delvin Cook 316 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: can hurt you as a receiver as a runner if 317 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: you're not minding where he's at on the field. Minnesota 318 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: still has all the tools to be able to play 319 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: with anybody. The game against Seattle showed that. But if 320 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: you're that that's why to me, it's so imperative that 321 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: you take the ball away, and you take the ball 322 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: away early. They're gonna have doubts in their head coming 323 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: off the bye week. You'd be inhuman not too. You've 324 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: got to make sure that you keep those doubts rolling 325 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: there because there is one team that's five and one 326 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: and there's one team that's one in five. It's just 327 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: what the statistics are. You have to go out and 328 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: prove which one that you are. Yeah, I think I 329 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: think Minnesota for as as good a rookie and a 330 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: potential rising star in this league as Justin Jefferson is, 331 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: and as reliable as Adam Thilan is, I think Minnesota 332 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: is going to come into this game wanting to run 333 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: the heck out of the football. You look, you look 334 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: at the Seattle the game at Seattle, even losing Dalvin Cook, 335 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: as I said, Madison ends up going over a hundred 336 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: yards rushing. That's how they're going to protect Kirk Cousins. 337 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: That's how they're gonna set up Kirk Cousins for success. 338 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: Is to pound the ball in the run and try 339 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: to establish that running game as much as possible against 340 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: the Packers. And that's going to be a challenge for 341 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: this Packers run defense, which has stood up pretty well 342 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: again in the in the Atlanta game, in the Houston game, 343 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: the run defense was was absolutely on top of things. 344 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: But we've also seen some leakage in the run game 345 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: in in other instances, and getting back to the injury situation, 346 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: I should mention as well, Tyler Lancaster was back at 347 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: practice from his shoulder injury on the defensive line for 348 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: the Packers. But I I think Minnesota's game plan offensively 349 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: is going to be to to run Dalvin Cook and 350 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: Alexander Madison at this Packers defense as much as they can. Yeah, 351 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: and you go back and look Mike before that injury 352 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: that that Cook dealt with there after the the Houston 353 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: game or excuse the Seattle game before that against Houston, 354 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: a hundred thirty rushing yards, two touchdowns. Then against Tennessee, 355 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: who's considered one of the front runners in this in 356 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: this league right now, he had one rushing yards in 357 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: a touchdown. I mean, this guy was going off after 358 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: he signed that extension. And he's a guy that obviously 359 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: the Packers are well familiar with. You know, Adrian Peterson 360 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: for a lot of years gave defensive coordinators and coaches 361 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, headaches in the NFC North 362 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: and and Cook has all those same you know, you 363 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: know potential as well at years old. Now again we're 364 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to see Obviously he's ready to go rip roaring, 365 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: but first game back, you know, do you see him 366 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: play a complimentary role with Madison. That's why they drafted Madison. 367 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they wanted to be able to go deep. 368 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: They saw what happened when they lost Cook in the past, 369 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: and now they have two reliable options to turn to, 370 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: if you know, depending on what the workload is or 371 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: what they're looking to get out of Cooking this matchup. Yeah, alright, 372 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: well Week eight in the NFL. I want to get 373 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: your thoughts before we go on some of the other 374 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: games going on. I'll throw these out to you, and uh, 375 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: you can start wherever you'd like. Indianapolis is at Detroit. 376 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: I think that's a very interesting game, not only because 377 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: obviously the Packers are going to be playing both of 378 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: those teams here yet as the season rolls along, but 379 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: it's that age old question with Detroit. Can the Lions 380 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: build on a big victory and start getting something going 381 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: against an indie team that is actually I believe the 382 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: only team above five hundred that the Lions are gonna 383 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: play over the next five weeks. So this is a 384 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: I give credit to an inbox reader for throwing that 385 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: one at me. I read I read that in the 386 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: inbox when I was going through. UM, but I think 387 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one for Detroit, and obviously Indie is 388 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: a team on the on the Packers schedule coming up. 389 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco is at Seattle, a big chip in the NFC. 390 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: West New Orleans is at Chicago, a gut check game 391 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: for the Bears after what happened to them on Monday 392 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: Night football. Chicago's on a short week now after a 393 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: game that did not go well at all for them 394 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: against the Rams. And then the big one in the 395 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: a f C is Pittsburgh at Baltimore in the a 396 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: f C North. So many to talk about. I do 397 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts, and I want to close 398 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: on San Francisco in Seattle. So let's just put a 399 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: little pin at one, okay, because there's some things I 400 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about that matchup. From a 401 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: pure football perspective, if West Hotquitz wasn't going to be 402 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: sitting in the press box covering a game on Sunday, 403 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: I would be sitting in front of my television watching 404 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and Baltimore. UM, that's just it's it's good. It's 405 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: gritty football. I saw Adrian name Is tweet about this 406 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: to a Baltimore native and he said, you know, when 407 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: I was a kid, whenever that matchup was on, you 408 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: just wanted to watch it. It's just the the cultures. 409 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: There's something of that special, Mike, because it's getting lost 410 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL now because of just all the constant 411 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: turnover with coaches. But when you actually have to established 412 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: football programs, it does matter what er. It doesn't matter 413 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: if you're and I are talking about two thousand and eight, 414 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about two thousand twenty. The way that these 415 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: teams play and the mentality, the way that they come together, 416 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: it's galvanized in them and that and it's like the 417 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: perfect sort of dance partner. Uh, that that game is 418 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: going to be exceptional to watch. Well, I believe I 419 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: read somewhere and and don't hold me to this, but 420 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: I thought I read that this is going to be 421 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: the meeting between Mike Tomlin and johnah Harbor, which is 422 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: which is like a new NFL record for two head 423 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: coaches with the same teams going had to had twenty 424 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: five meetings, and obviously number twenty six will be again 425 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: later this season, and who knows, maybe it'll be twenty 426 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: seven come January. Never know. But but let's get away 427 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: from the FC. Let's talk about the Money Conference here 428 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: as it relates to the Green Bay Packers. It's so 429 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: funny seeing New Orleans traveling to Chicago. New Orleans at 430 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: four and to Chicago at five and two. It just 431 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: feels like two teams right now that are sort of 432 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: shifting in different directions. But yet at the same time, 433 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: I still feel like Chicago's are really good, Like they 434 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: have a good matchup here with with the Saints. I 435 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: feel like defensively, uh, them being able to play on 436 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: their own turf, they have what it takes to be 437 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: able to stop this offense. The question is gonna be, 438 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, the Saints now ranked seven in the league 439 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: in total defense, how are they going to match up 440 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: with this Bears offense? And who's going to be able 441 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: to grind out these points? Because to me, this feels 442 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: like one that's gonna just sort of be this knockdown, 443 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: drag out war. Yeah, I get the feeling because you 444 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: know how you know how the Chicago media is and 445 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: how they cover the Bears, and I'm not saying that 446 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: in a in a disparaging way. But it's not just 447 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: the media, but it's the fan base. And you get 448 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: the feeling that if Chicago loses this one at home, 449 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the five and one start becomes five and three, that 450 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: there's going to be this element of panic in Chicago 451 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: about just what is going on with this team and 452 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: where is it going. This is a really big game, 453 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: I think from a psyche standpoint for the Chicago Bears 454 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: and the Chicago fans and UH and New Orleans, New 455 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Orleans in that NFC South, we've seen what Tampa Bay 456 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: has done the past couple of weeks. In New Orleans 457 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: has that one leg on Tampa Bay having beaten them 458 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: in Week one, but there will be a rematch down 459 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: the road. In New Orleans is saying, hey, if we 460 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: if we want to win our division, Um, you know 461 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: they've they've got to, you know, keep up with Mr Brady. 462 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah they do. And in Chicago is we talked about 463 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: with them having five wins and people questioned the vout 464 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: you know the validity of those wins. They do have 465 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: a win over Tampa Bay. I mean whatever you want 466 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: to say. That game and how it ended the Bears 467 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: earned that victory, so as much as it is if 468 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: they lose this game they're five and three, there are 469 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: also six and two. Then suddenly, with two wins over 470 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: the NFC South what looks to be a very competitive 471 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: NFC sell it, so it'll be great to watch. I 472 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: gotta ask you about San Francisco Seattle though, because an 473 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: insider in box somebody asked me, if you're a Packers fan, basically, 474 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: who are you pulling for in this My answer, for 475 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: those who don't read it or just want to hear 476 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: me say it again, is that me personally, I've never 477 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: believed really in momentum in the NFL. Uh. The reason 478 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: I say that is because you can have the they're 479 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: talking from a week to week week week standpoint within 480 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: a particular And the reason I set this up is 481 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: because the Packers are gonna be playing the forty Niners 482 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: the next week. So if they win, are they really 483 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: on a big street going into it? Things changed so 484 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: quickly the Minnesota Vikings end up playing Seattle really tough. 485 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: I just feel like there's so many things that go 486 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: into whether or not a team plays well other than 487 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: the fact what they've done the last few weeks. That 488 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: being said, I feel like, yeah, this would be a 489 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: game where if you're the Packers, you're okay with San 490 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: Francisco beating Seattle because with their only being one spot 491 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: now of one by you want as many teams picking 492 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: up second and third losses here earlier in the season 493 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: as you can. With the understanding that the Packers can 494 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: do something about San Francisco, they can turn them back 495 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: here in what would be seven days Seattle. You just 496 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: got to kind of watch to see how all the 497 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: other pieces fall. Yeah, Seattle is uh, Seattle's coming off. 498 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: It's low and loss of the season, that crazy overtime 499 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: game against Arizona San Francisco. After a rough start, They've 500 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: been dealing with injuries. They're still dealing with some injuries, 501 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: but the forty Niners have definitely righted the ship. They 502 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: may be starting to put that Super Bowl hangover that 503 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: we talked about on a previous episode. It might be 504 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: starting to put that behind him. I this this is 505 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: going I mean just look at remember the Week seventeen 506 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco Seattle game last year. I mean literally decided 507 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: by an inch at the goal line on the That's 508 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: that's how these teams play and this is this is 509 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: what it comes down to. So am I wrong on 510 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: that though? Or what do you how do you feel 511 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: it's okay if I'm wrong? No, No, I I totally 512 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. Because of the number one 513 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: seed being the only playoff position that gets to buy 514 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: I think you have to be rooting for the team 515 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: that's behind in the standings to beat the team that's 516 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: in front. If if you're a Packers fan, you want 517 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: to see Seattle pick up a second loss, I just 518 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: have taken more of an FBS sort of mentality to 519 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: this now that you just want to see as many 520 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: teams lose as possible and win out or as many 521 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: as you can to be able to claim that one 522 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: spot it's gonna be. I'm not looking forward to this 523 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: playoff formatt, but if this is the way it's going 524 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: to be, the way it's got to be, this is 525 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: the way it is, we'll roll with it all right. Well, 526 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: with that, we'll call it a wrap on this edition 527 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our 528 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: coverage of the team and all of the coverage of 529 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: Sunday's game Packers Vikings at lambeau Field. It'll all be 530 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: for you on packers dot com for West I Am Mike, 531 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time.