WEBVTT - Fanatic About the Playoffs | 76ers Seize Control in Game 2 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.640 This podcast is part of the seventy Sixers podcast network 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:10.080 search seventy Sixers podcast wherever you get your pods. This 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:14.800 is Fanatic About the Playoffs from the seventy Sixers podcast Network, 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:18.760 presented by Draft Games and ninety seven by The Fanatic, 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:23.000 with new episodes premiering the day after every seventy Sixers 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.760 playoff game. This is the Fanatic About the Playoffs podcast, 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.360 and on this episode we recap Round one, Game two, 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:34.800 and look ahead to Game three. What is Fanatic about 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.680 the Playoffs? You ask? It is our brand new postseason 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.400 podcast series with us here at the seventy Sixers podcast network, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.760 presented by DraftKings and our pals at ninety seventy five 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.360 of The Fanatic, the radio home of the seventy Sixers 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.240 in the Delaware Valley, with new episodes dropping the day 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:55.880 after every single Sixers playoff game. I'm Brian Seltzer. It 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.480 is a true privilege to be joined on this episode 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.760 by a pair of dignitaries in the audio content space. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.560 One is the radio voice of the Philadelphia seventy six 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:10.920 or twenty five years in running, the one and only 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:15.119 Tom McGinnis, and the other is from ninety seven to five, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.640 host of The John Kincaid Show Morning six to ten, 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:24.560 John Kincaid himself, John, Welcome home, Welcome to the pod. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.520 How are you. Thank you very much. Great to see 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.160 Tom too, I said, I've I've been wanting to meet 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:34.320 Tom McGinnis since I came home. So I'm very excited 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.679 and Brian, good chance to see you. We're getting out 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.440 of the pandemic and we've got a six Ers run 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.520 to unite the whole city and to get everybody excited about. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.080 I'll be honest, I don't usually I think TEMC knows this. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.320 I don't usually make declarative statements, bold statements, anything like that. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.120 It is hard for me not to feel very confident 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.480 after what we saw in Game two. Now, I know 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.000 that going on the road is a different thing, but 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.160 to me right now, this is almost not so much 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.240 about the adjustment conversation with the Wizards. I think the 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.239 seventy Sixers, they've got the talent like Washington. If they're 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:09.560 gonna have a shot, they got to play better. I 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.600 thought it was a great win by the Sixers to 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.480 really psychologically take an advantage in the series on Wednesday night. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.640 I would say so only because they don't have the 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:22.960 answers right, Like they're trying to double Joel and Alex 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.840 Lennold certainly would have the size, but in general they 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.399 don't really have the size, not just within bead Or. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.600 The schemes for them aren't working. The double teaming's not working. 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:35.640 And then you know relative to the size as well. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.120 You know, like Ben was so aggressive even over Westbrook, 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:42.320 you know, who's an incredible athlete. But then you know, 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.960 I can still in my mind see Bradley Bill, you know, 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.400 like putting his arm bar on Ben's hips, and Simmons 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.359 has got like seven or eight inches on him. He's 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.520 just going over the top of him and powering in. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.640 So you know, the talent of the Sixers trumps that 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.240 of the Wizards. And you know, Bill's had thirty three 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.760 points in both games. And you know, as you said 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.240 last night on the radio, Brian, you know, anybody butt 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.360 theory in terms of, you know, let Bill get his baskets, 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:10.639 which oh, by the way, I think he's going to 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.320 get him anyway, But here he was with thirty three 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.760 points and he was minus twenty eight. So their best 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.399 player had a tremendous offensive game, but was in there 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.519 in the guts of the game when the Sixers dominated Washington. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.959 So to your point about going down there. As much 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.320 as the Sixers have dominated Washington here in Philadelphia, which 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.760 I believe numbers now eleven consecutive wins and five straight 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.320 this season overall, including the one win there, the Sixers 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.360 have not excelled there and going on the road in 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.920 the playoffs is a whole different animal, but a good 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.800 test because if the Sixers are going to get where 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.720 they need to go, they're obviously going to have to 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.880 win at home. Now you would say, well, wait a minute, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.200 the formula says they could just win all their home 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.240 games in the East and get to the finals. But 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.360 you got to steal some wins and you want to 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.640 take care of business when you have a team on 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.000 the ropes, and that's what lies ahead. But the first 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.840 two games, particularly last night, I thought the Sixers played 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.240 well well and when these guys played twenty five, twenty nine, 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.800 twenty seven minutes, they put the game away, which is 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.360 great to see, Brian. I think though the team act 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.760 did not address the elephant in the room, the selfish 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.600 play last night of Ben Simmons. That's selfish guy scoring 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.320 what I mean, I mean, how when can we see 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.080 this guy stop shooting so much? I'm tired of it. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.520 He's a selfish guy. He's all about his points, all 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.400 about Wait a minute, that's the argument people were calling 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.120 me with the other day, that he didn't do that. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.760 I was shocked last night because I loved seeing that 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:42.520 Ben Simmons, the aggressive Ben Simmons. But I marvel since 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.680 i've been home that in any way, this young man 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:50.080 is a polarizing figure because I guess watching him most 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.320 of his career from Afar before I returned home, I 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.719 just tend to marvel at his skill set and what 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.960 he brings. And I love watching great defense. But last 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.240 night was the complete game out of Ben Simmons. That 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.560 was a fun, fun performance last night. Let's get right 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:09.320 into that. The main difference maker X factor, Ben Simmons, 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.400 right off the bat sets the tone. He equals his 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.520 point total on a perfect three for three less than 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.960 halfway through the first quarter. John I thought it was 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.320 totally poetic. It was like, yes, he can make a basket, 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.359 and it just it totally set the tone for the game. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.920 I love the fact, though, that the young man has 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.200 a game where he makes other players better and on 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.840 the defensive end. I always say, is there a night 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.760 that I don't see Ben Simmons bring it? I always 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:43.120 see a strong His B game defensively is better than 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:47.000 most players a game. So to me, again, I'm confounded 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.760 by the fact that people will in call sports radio. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.600 It's one of the reasons we maybe don't take as 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.640 many calls is to hear people talk about what he's 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.719 deficient at. I'd rather talk about what he's really really 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.600 good at. And he is a difference maker. And I 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.680 believe defense travels team mac, you know, I mean, and 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.760 going on the road. If I know that my team 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.320 can clamp down on people defensively, I think I feel 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.279 better about their chances on the road. Yeah, what's really 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.720 impressed me certainly this year and last year too, and 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.359 you know, even going back further, he guarded Leonard in 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:22.320 the playoffs. But he really gets into people. You know, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.640 one of our assistant coaches in years past who ended 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.320 up coaching the Hawks, Lloyd Pierce, used to say, make 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.240 him feel you, And that's what like Simmons like he's 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.240 getting up on people. It reminds me of like how 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:37.080 Gary Payton guarded where he's taken away your space. And 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.840 yet he's so athletic that he's able to be up 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.520 there and be physical and make him feel him but 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.000 at the same time able to move latterly and back 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.640 up and so that he's not filing and it's just 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.159 and then denying. There's a lot to it, but his 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:58.960 athletic gifts and his want right, his fight, his desire, 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.920 his grit. Not a lot of guys want that. It's 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.159 like in basketball teams like, oh, yeah, we want to run, Yeah, 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.200 coach's let's be that stut. What coach doesn't say, we're 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.080 gonna run, right when a guy gets a job, you 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.040 hear is at any level college, we're gonna we're gonna 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.720 run and we're gonna play defense. Oh, there's a novel cunt, 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.840 but when you really get into it, you gotta run. 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.360 It takes a lot of effort to fill the wings 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.920 and get out and run, and Simmons well does that. 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.000 On offense, he leads to break. That's not my point. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.560 To point is defensively, he's getting after it. And as 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.160 you say, on nights, when you're not scoring or the 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:39.640 team's lackluster defense matters. In defense, you can show up 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.160 and put forth the effort that makes a huge impact 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.600 at that end of the floor. Listen, there's things about 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.520 the sport that, no matter how much I watch it, 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.680 I'm never gonna understand. And I think one of the 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.320 great things that Doc Rivers has brought this season is 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.000 even when he's communicame to the public, he makes things 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.560 sound so simple. And when he was talking about Ben 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.920 Simmons game after Game two on when day night, he 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.880 was talking about, Listen, we scored one hundred twenty five 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.040 points game one. We dropped one hundred twenty in Game two. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.080 That's two hundred forty five points of the first two games. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.760 He's like, we're scoring points, That's all I care about. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.640 That means that Ben is doing something to promote that 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.320 just by virtue of Ben's game, whether he's putting the 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.200 ball in the basket directly himself like he did in 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.680 Game two, or facilitating like he did in Game one. 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.400 Two hundred forty five points the first two games of 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.480 playoff series. That's great, absolutely awesome. And isn't that what 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.520 we're expecting in this series? That this was not going 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.120 to be a high stress series. Now, Look, I don't 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.720 expect sweeps in every series is as Tom talks about, 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.120 this is a team that doesn't have a great run 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.880 in DC playing down there, and you find that with teams. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.680 But to me, if you could just be efficient, win 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.920 the first series in five, win a second series in five. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.400 We did a little study on our show about how 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.320 the average champion in the NBA plays eleven games in 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.880 their first two series. So in the modern era of us, 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.560 since the playoffs have expanded to what they are, if 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.199 you play eleven games, the average champions what they play 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.080 in the first two rounds. So just be efficient, get 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.440 three your series, do all the things. And I can't 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.280 wait to see the Sixers team on the road and 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.679 how they answer it because when a team that has 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.960 a really, really good offensive game gets home, sometimes the 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:23.360 crowd can helped elevate that. That's what we call a 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.640 deep dive. Yes, yes, every once in a while, I 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.520 gotta keep up with Bob Cooney, you see, I'm constantly 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.320 trying to Cooney helps my basketball. I Q so much 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.080 on a daily basis, so I'm always trying to say 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.520 if I can get Bob Cooney to say, wow, I 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.920 didn't know that about basketball, I always feel like it's 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.280 a win that sounds like me after three hall holes 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.360 in golf, Like I've been golfing since I was eight. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:52.720 I'm like, huh, I lie fifteen again nothing's changed. And 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.360 then Brian, to your point about the two forty five, 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.520 that sounds like the over under which we seem to 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:03.040 get fast every quarter of sports and the like if 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:04.880 you will you know what I mean. But now I 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.360 love that about what coaches said, And that's basically been 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.640 like the mantra for the year, and that is whether 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.120 it should be we should make fourteen threes or whatever, 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.920 and that is just win and and get better and 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:21.119 improve and move the needle and develop to your potential 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.160 throughout the course of the year. And I think one 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.959 element to that during this there's been a lot of 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.320 breathing room, right. I mean, the Sixers played their second 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.600 game in eleven days, and that first week was different 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.160 because of the whole play in but even the Sunday, 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.920 Wednesday and now Saturday thing, and like by way of example, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.800 as we speak, today's a film session and rest and recovery. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.079 Guys are going to probably get shots at. But I 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.440 think the team can actually get better during this time. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.320 I mean, it's it's like somebody a college basketball team 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.520 who plays in the n I t well, the coach 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.000 isn't loving it because they get to still practice, right, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.640 I mean it's not rather. You know, obviously you want 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.720 to get to the final and whatever, the NC Double, 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.480 but you get the practice time for your young players. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.000 You still get to develop and work on things. And 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.400 to that end, I think the Sixers, you know, rest, recovery, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.200 film study, practice, a little bit of practice, all of 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.720 this as you try to get to the ceiling that'll 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.760 give yourselves the best team and the best opportunity to 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.760 actually compete for a championship. One more thing about Ben 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.719 before we move on. I feel like he's handled all 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.520 the outside noise great. And it hasn't just been the 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.760 last forty eight seventy two hours. I mean, remember earlier 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.240 in the season there was chatter about the president of 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.560 basketball operations, former franchise and where a certain player might 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.040 go and all that, and I think Ben has stood 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.880 up there handled things really professionally. I loved this quote 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.079 after last night. He's not trying to stick it to anybody, 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:47.960 just wants to go out there and try and win 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.800 a championship. I think that on the surface, who knows 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:52.760 what's happening behind the scenes, but I think he's put 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:57.360 out a really good public tone. I love the when athletes, 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.680 you know, embraced their community. This is going to be 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.760 the strangest thing you ever hear from a radio host. 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.480 I hope none of them are listening to sports talk 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.640 radio till the day of the parade, because I hear 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.280 the most nonsensical things on a daily basis, and many, 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.840 many times sometimes they've been known to slip out of 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:19.160 my mouth. So just steer clear of it. Guys, get 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.520 in your bubble this time, free to move around and 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.280 just stay focused on it. It's exciting. Well, I would 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.640 think so, and you know, you've definitely heard of stories. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.360 I know, Chris Paul, I think Lebron, you know, get 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.920 off social media this time. But I would think, certainly 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.400 in this era, not just this year or this month, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.760 this week with Ben Simmons, but just in general, you've 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.599 got to block out the noise, and you know, with 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.040 the WMI, you gotta keep what's most important. And you know, 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.920 athletes a lot of their time, and especially now where 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.079 they're precluded from going certain places because of the guidelines 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.680 and whatnot, you got to stay with your loved ones 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.720 and your friends and your family, and hopefully those people 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.160 can help keep it real for you also. But boy, 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.120 there there's just too much out there. And I don't 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.360 even really go there, but I just know because you 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.520 have to remain confident. Like you think back to Iverson, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.520 what did he call himself? He called him the greatest 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.760 player there was And you can start to quibble, but 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.960 that doesn't matter. That was the athlete's mindset. That's the 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.720 psyche of an athlete. There's nobody does it better. And 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.719 if you know, these guys got to trick themselves a 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.400 little bit. It's a you know, it's a mental thing 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.600 where you have to be a conquer or. You can't. 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.520 I try to say the word pessivity when you're asking 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.680 me prior to the game last night, Brian, would Joel 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.560 be aggressive? You have to be aggressive because if you're not, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.360 you're gonna get swarm. 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Gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:06.800 So speaking of the big fella, the MVP candidates, they 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:13.280 said it the game. This shirt as a completely slowed 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.600 down from me. You know, I'm just thinking my towel, 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.200 just letting it comes from me by tonight. You know 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.600 that you knows be sending three guys on me. You 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.880 know I'm making the vocy. He said after the game. 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.360 He feels like things are slowing down. It's looking like it. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.040 And yeah, he put up some really nice scoring numbers 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.040 twenty two and under twenty seven minutes. But even though 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.760 only only three assists, I thought he really helped promote 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.880 some great ball movement that Doc Rivers talked about after 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.640 the games. Him making the right reads is I think 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.520 just as imperative at times as him scoring the basketball. 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.680 And he was great and he saw a lot of 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:54.120 multi wizard Man coverage last night. Yeah, I'm it's I 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.360 wonder whether Doc wants it to be more like Game 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.080 one or Game two. I love the idea that I 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.800 like it when things run through Joel Embiid. I mean 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:07.160 to me, I see him as the cheap code that 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.560 no other team has an answer for. So I always 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.160 want to see it run through Embiid. But then Sunday afternoon, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.600 what do the officials do? They took him out of 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.800 a game, And Tom, I heard some of your calls 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:23.120 in post game, but I was I was shocked that 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.680 that first game was officiated like that, because that would 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.640 intimidate me as an NBA head coach to wondering, am 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.600 I gonna get that in a big critical game on 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.240 the road, like Doc's gotta be wondering, are they gonna 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.160 during Game three and Game four in the road? Are 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.760 they gonna officiate like that? Am I gonna be caught 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:43.280 shorthanded early on? It's a very difficult navigation game that 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.720 these coaches got to work as far as who's working 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.320 the games. And I'm saying that as an O'Hara grad 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.320 where almost every single referee in the NBA is from 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:55.200 my high school, So I believe, No, it's tough, but 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.480 I think it still holds true today. Like it wasn't 0:16:58.520 --> 0:16:59.880 just fouls in that game. There were a lot of 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:03.880 travel calls at world, so you have to navigate above that. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.720 You know, you almost have to account for that. And look, 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:11.360 these guys, this is such a difficult job and we're 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:15.000 all I always remember and John you would probably but 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.520 the flyers the referee, I don't know. In some Montreal 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.000 series in the seventy Leon Steckel or whatever that was, 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.080 the eighty Stanley Cup Finals Game six, not that we 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.480 remember the offside goal that he wasn't even here, but 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.960 that guy's name is stuck a still mud as fans, 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.359 and I'm sure football fans could say this head or 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.960 the other about some NFL referee, But look our guys 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.919 in the training and the everything that's gone through with 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.879 the NBA referees and the program and then the everything 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.080 they've implemented. It's trying. They're trying to get better and better. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.280 But obviously it's part of it whether they're good or bad, 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.159 or this or that. Look the foul on Joel and 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.480 Doc said it last night pregame. It was a foul. 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.080 It was this, It was a tickie tech foul. It 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.560 was this very the first file that he had against 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.320 Alex Lm and that started things going. But that's what happens. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.680 You had two players last night spraining their ankles, Westbrook 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.360 for them, and Curry and Harris for the sixers. I'll trouble. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.600 You just never know, and that's why you kind of 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.640 have to block back to that block it out thing 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.199 and just do what you do well. And going on 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.640 the road is tough. I mean, like, here's another thing, 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.320 and I used to say this like in other ways, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.280 if you win the first game in a playoff series 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.680 on the road, you are not winning that second game. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.720 It's just kind of there's almost like, and I say 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.360 this somewhat facetiously, there's like an unwritten memo, but it's 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:41.560 it's just that difficult, right, So it's gonna be hard 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.040 to be sure, but just back to and beat a 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.720 little bit. And he's the last guy out there that 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.280 shoots around prior to going into the locker room. So 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:54.919 he's got Chris Babcock, he's got Dwayne Jones, Andrew's working 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.439 with them, and they were showing him a lot of 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.600 faces jumping out at him, giving him the looks. It's 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.800 like a steady diet of preparation for him to handle things. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.879 He's watching a lot of the video and learning and 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.200 certainly all the hours that we don't see where he's 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.600 sitting with coaches and in practice and whatnot in terms 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.760 of handling traps, where it's coming from and whatnot. So 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.040 it is constantly going to it's they work on it 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:23.800 all the time, and it's still an evolution. He's not perfect, 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.639 he still has turnovers and whatnot, but it's getting that 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.439 ball out of the traps or being decisive or facing up. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.000 All the things that we've seen him do, he's going 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.520 to continue to do. And the different devices or the 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.080 way that the Sixers play him, whether they put him 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.560 in the middle or face him up on the wing 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.800 or put him on the block, and then also how 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.120 teams play him is going to be something that will 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.880 change on a game by game, series by series basis. 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.920 And he's got the talent and now he's just got 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.800 to solve the puzzle to help the Sixers play the 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.120 best that they can play. There maybe some people out 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.760 there that aren't just getting acquainted with the podcasting space. 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:01.920 But one of the reasons that I knew of John 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.880 Kincaid before he came to Philadelphia was he's been doing 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.000 podcasting for years with a gentleman by the name of Shack. 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:12.880 Who this guy Shack, I don't know. To raise his visibility, 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.240 I've done a lot to He was hardly known. I 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.040 don't think anybody had ever heard of him before we 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.560 work together from obscure talent to megastar. You know, I 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.959 was just I'm glad to share my stage with him 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:25.800 a little bit over the years. I mean, it's it's 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.480 just just to give him some exposure. I mean, come on, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:34.280 the guy. You never see him anywhere. Literally, he's like 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.159 a hermit. The best part about it, though, is I 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.320 believe we've gotten word that the TNT crew will travel 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:44.520 in the Eastern Conference playoffs Shack and Shack will come 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.080 and do a live edition of The John Kinkade Show. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.080 That's incredible. We announced that the other day in the show. 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.840 So as long as TANT travels, Shaquille O'Neal will co 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.520 host on The John Kinkade Show with the crew live 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.919 here in Philadelphia. We just have to find the venue 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.119 to put it in. We're thinking about the parking lot. 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.879 I like that actually having a stage set up in 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.480