1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Why from our nations this budget thing is going to 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: do nothing space sports. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and politics colliding. 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Sound on with Kevin's related the insiders, the influencers, the inside. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: than it looked in. You really have a divide within 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: Team Trump. The president has to do exactly what people 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: send him here to do, which is to get it done. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: He's sound on with Givins Relate on Bloomberg Radio. Happy 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: hump Day, folks. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Bloomberg Chief Washington correspondent 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. Special guest today Donald 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Trump Jr. He's on the line, don Thanks for calling in. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: I want to get your take. I mean, it's been 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Mueller week all week day three. What do you how 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: how are Republicans reacting to this and what do you 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: make of the Democratic response in terms of them advocating 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: for the full release of the Muller ports. Well, listen, 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: I think the fall release is one thing, but the 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: ones that are still going on there pretending like this 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: thing was a real thing and wasn't a total force 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: to begin with his Uh, pretty shocking, although not surprising. 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, whether it was mainstream media or 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: so many of the Democrats just taking this and and 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: running with it because they could get away with saying 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: it when in fact there was no real basis for it. Uh. 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: Is pretty amazing, but again not shocking. And what's going 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: on and what we've seen over the last two years, 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump Jr. Is joining us on the line. Don 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: you know. This was a twenty two month investigation, more 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: than twenty nine hundred subpoenas, report after report that came out, 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: whether it was meetings in Trump Tower, I mean, the 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: insinuations that there would have been indictments and whatnot. Take 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: me to the moment when this broke on Friday that 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: there would be no indictments, and then on Sunday afternoon, 36 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: what was the response like inside of your family and 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: inside of the President's center circle. Well, you know, listen, 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: I I bosicsly, we were happy and there's you know, 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: there's some relief there. But the reality is, Kevin I 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: was in you know, the meetings in question as it 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: pertained to all of my stuff, so I knew we 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. But just because something's nonsense doesn't 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: mean you don't still have to deal with nonsense. And 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to deal with you know, half of 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: the country and leading congressional candidates and people for president 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: saying you're being treasonists and all of this nonsense. And 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: you see the attacks on social media, and you know 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: you'll be visiting your kids in an orange jumpsuit like 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: it was so insane and over the top. The realities 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: for me is I knew we didn't do anything wrong, 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: So it was a matter of playing it out now. Uh. 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: The fact that it got that far and that it 53 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: started under this, you know, candidly as shady as it 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: gets circumstances, you know, the dust being funded by the 55 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: d n C and the Hillary camp, the Fusion GPS 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: meeting with the people from the Russia, meeting before and after. 57 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean I took a meeting unsolicited, uh, from a 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: guy I had done some business and looked at a 59 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: deal price years prior to. You know, that's how business happens, 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: That's what you do. But when the Hillary Clinton campaign 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: goes and pays foreign operatives to start trying to dig 62 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: up false information, spreads it amongst the FBI uses that 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: to get FISA warrants. That's totally acceptable. But the unsolicited uh, 64 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: that's totally acceptable. But the unsolicited meeting taking one that 65 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: that's a total disaster and it's treason, It's it's insanity, Kevin. 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I think the media did themselves a 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: major disservice. I mean, they've done irreparable damage to their reputations. Uh. 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: And you know, they've been seen by so many of 69 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: the people in Middle America has nothing more than the 70 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: marketing wing of the Democratic Party. And honestly, after these 71 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: two years, how can you argue that. I mean, there's 72 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: still people on air pretending like this thing is real. 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean then you have the tinfoil Happer gate in Congress, 74 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, Eric Swalwell or Adam Schiff, I 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: mean Eric Swalwell last night, it's still pretending that the 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: dolcier was real. At least Martha McCollum finally was like, 77 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: are you serious, Like you know, they're they're running with 78 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: this because they've been able to get away totally unchecked. 79 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: They can say whatever they want. Adam Schiff can say 80 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: he's seen evidence every day on TV for two years. 81 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: He's seen it. He knows it's happening. Where is it 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: that would be great, like show it to us? So, Oh, 83 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: that's that's different. I mean, it's it's pretty it's pretty insane. 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: What's happened, Kevin. This has Banana Republic stuff, and it 85 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: happened in this country. It's scary. Donald Trump Jr. Joining 86 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: us on the phone. We're talking about the fallout from 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: the Mueller conclusion of the Mueller Report, Attorney General bar 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: saying that the Mueller Report found no conspiracy, no conspiracy, 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: no collusion. Now but talk today up on Capitol Hill. 90 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: I was struck by this. Congressman Mark Meadows, Republican UH 91 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: founding member of the of the Freedom Caucus. He says that, 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: as well as Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, Republican 93 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: from South Carolina, don they say that they are fully 94 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: prepared to get some type of investigation into the Mueller investigation. 95 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Are you on board with that? Is that something that 96 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: has to be done or do you think that the 97 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: American people want to put the chapter behind them? Well, listen, 98 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: I think for the future, the American people have to 99 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: know how this happened to prevent it from ever happening again. 100 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: Uh to another president. What was what was allowed to 101 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: go on? Uh? You know by the d n C 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: and you know, the left wing media was a disgrace. 103 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: And I think they got to get to the bottom 104 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: of it because it should never happen in this country again. 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a stain on our republic. It's a 106 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: stain on any kind of democracy. Uh. And you know 107 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: that shouldn't happen again. So I do believe we need 108 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of it to prevent it 109 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: from happening again. Now, I'd also like finally for the 110 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: Democrats to perhaps work with the Republicans. You know, despite 111 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: what you're here about, despite negative media coverage, despite all 112 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: of that, you know what, look at the economy, look 113 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: at the numbers, look at what's going on in the world. 114 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to argue that it hasn't been 115 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: a total success. You have all time low Hispanic unemployment, 116 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: all time low African American unemployment. Okay, you have your 117 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: four o one has are through the roof manufacturings coming 118 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: back into this country. Three point one percent GDP growth 119 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: remember I remember not too long ago when they said 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: that couldn't be done. You know, there's one point eight 121 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: that's new normal. These policies are working. I'd love to 122 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: see the Democrats, you know, break from the dogma uh 123 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: and and join up and maybe get some infrastructure done, 124 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: fix some problems that still need to be fixed and 125 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: taken care of. Because my frilet's track record is pretty 126 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: turned good. Imagine what he could accomplish without this cloud. 127 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: And so I'd love to see some bipartisanship. I don't 128 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: see it. I mean I see them pushing the Green 129 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: New Deal. You know, it's only dollars, Kevin, it's a 130 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: phenomenal investment given that the US federal government revenues are 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: about six billion a year, so into fifteen years, if 132 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: the US government spends nothing else, no infrastructure, no schools, 133 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: no military, we could fund the Green New Deal and 134 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: we can all take a nice, you know, green bus 135 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: to Hawaii. You know, why don't we work on concepts 136 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: that actually makes sense. Why don't we perpetuate and continue 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: ideas that have actually proven to work. I'd love to 138 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: see that happen. You know, you're calling us on today. 139 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: A lot of folks only know you from from the 140 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: cable news types of interviews and whatnot, But you've actually 141 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: been writing some op eds recently and one of them 142 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: that you wrote in the Telegraph was about I guess 143 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: the suits to be former British Prime Minister Theresa May. 144 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious for if you've been following these 145 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: Brexit developments and she's set to step down, what's your 146 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: response to that? Just quickly listen. I hey, you know, 147 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: it's sort of similar to what we've seen with all 148 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: of these things. Right in this country, we did the 149 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: same thing. I mean, you know, our our Breakit happened 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: in November of sixteen. Uh, they voted for something that 151 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: people wanted something, And you know when the elite and 152 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: the establishment don't get what they want, it's like they 153 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: keep asking a question again until they get the answer 154 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: they want. You know, we saw that by reltigating the 155 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: election for the last two years with all of this 156 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: nonsense and all of these conspiracies, and it's still ongoing today. 157 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: You know, I think you've got to let the people 158 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: have what they actually want and not just sort of 159 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: give them the option and make it seem like this 160 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: this pretend things. So you know, I'm not going to 161 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: delve into the issues of the policy, but what's going 162 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: on there and the way they've handled it, uh, you 163 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: know hasn't exactly been smooth and hasn't exactly instilled faith. 164 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Uh you know in the people on either side, Uh, 165 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: that their voice matters. Uh. And again you can see 166 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: that in this country. You know, we didn't like Trump, 167 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: so we'll figure out a way to take them out 168 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: later on. Though there's an insurance policy for all of 169 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: this stuff. Uh. You know, I read briefly that she's 170 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: a stepping down before the next thing. But you know, 171 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: unfortunately with my day job, I haven't actually been to 172 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: keep up with entirely today. And another another op ed 173 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,119 Speaker 1: you're you've been writing about it is big tech companies 174 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: like Instagram and Facebook and Google about how they've been 175 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: censoring uh conservatives. What do you think should ultimately be 176 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: done with that? And and where do you thinks stand? 177 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: You just had a OpEd for an example on real 178 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: clear politics. Yeah, listen, I I think you have to 179 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: do something about it. I mean, I'm pretty vocal and social. 180 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: I have a pretty big platform. A lot of people 181 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: reach out to me, you know, from all walks of 182 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: life from all over the country, whether it's you know, 183 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment crowd, whether it's conservative groups. You know, 184 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: they're saying, done what you experienced when they deleted your 185 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: post and didn't give you a reason, and all of 186 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: a sudden it was just didn't meet the terms of 187 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: services for something that was totally in the commenting on 188 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, news of the day. You know, it opened 189 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: a floodgate, Kevin. I mean I saw people from all 190 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: over you know, done, I tried liking a post. It 191 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: was like me and my kids. It wasn't even a 192 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: political thing on your page and Facebook or Instagram you know, 193 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: locked me out of my account for this amount of time. 194 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: Or done, I had to refollow you six times this 195 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: week for some reason, it keeps on following you, or done, 196 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm miraculously following some liberal account 197 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: I didn't sign up for, have no interest in following, 198 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: and and all of us on It's there in my 199 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: feed all the time. This stuff is real, Kevin, and 200 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't you know, everywhere it's gonna be a little different. 201 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: But the second I've voiced an opinion about it, the 202 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: literally thousands of people that came out of the Oh 203 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: my god, don we've experienced the same thing. We can't 204 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: get our voice out. It shouldn't be happening. Okay. I 205 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: can't offer a service to the public and then discriminate 206 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: because I don't like the way they look. I mean, 207 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: try doing that in a movie theater. See what happens. Uh. 208 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: You know, the notion that this is a free service, 209 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: it's different, it's not. You know, there there's a still 210 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: a very republican sort of free market way. Uh, you 211 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: know of handling this issue without stinying. Uh. You know 212 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: the opinions of let's call it fifty of the country. Uh, 213 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's what big tech is doing. It only 214 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: goes one way. We see that, we see them, you know, 215 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: whether it's the Project Verita stuff that catches them in 216 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: the act that whethery're admitting it. You know, this is 217 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: a truth. This is not a conspiracy. You can't have 218 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: this much smoke, this many people basically saying it happens 219 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: only happening one way and and pretend like this it 220 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: isn't an issue to me. It appears as though it's 221 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: a dry run. They realized that we were very effective 222 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: using social media in obviously the vast, vast majority of 223 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley is very left wing. You know, let's let's 224 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: see how we can style me it. Let's see if 225 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: we can. You know, I'm not saying they're eliminating it. 226 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're doing this. But you know, if 227 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: they blocked ten percent of the outreaching, if they slow 228 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: my growth on social if they do that to my father, 229 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's amazing. And it's not one 230 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: or two people. I mean I sort of opened the 231 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: door because I'm willing to call out nonsense when I 232 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: see it, even if it's controversial, even if it gets 233 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: me some incoming. I take some heat for it. You know, 234 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: I've been doing that for a while and I'm willing 235 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: to do it. But you know, if they can do 236 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: it to me, and if they can do it to 237 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: an account of mine, imagine what they can do to 238 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: some little guy that has, you know, to three friends 239 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: to three hundred followers trying to do this. I mean, 240 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: you see people posting just ordinary Christian, nice religious things. 241 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: Facebook blocked me unt of my account. They said it 242 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: was you know, not again, you know, not controversial things 243 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about. Well, the religious out of 244 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: the abortion issue or anything like that. I'm talking about 245 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: just you know what, what what would have been totally 246 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: a normal, god fearing American stuff two years ago is 247 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: now too toxic for social media. Meanwhile, you know, go 248 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: put on some explicit search terms on there and see 249 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: what you can find that stuffs. Fine. Donald Trump, He's 250 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: joining us on the line. We're staring down the restart 251 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: of a re election campaign. Every Democrat virtually running for president. 252 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: Who are the candidates that you think could present the 253 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: biggest political threat to President Trump's reelection? You know, honestly 254 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: right now, I don't know that any of them can. 255 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know, you're gotta be one 256 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: you're sort of dealing with like new socialists or well, 257 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 1: I mean everyone's Joe Biden. Joe Biden because he's a 258 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: man of the people. Joe Biden is a swamp creature. 259 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's been doing this for the fifty years. Uh, 260 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, I I don't see him as the new 261 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, this is where we're going. And the other 262 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: side is you know, the extreme you know, socialist left. Uh, 263 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, the reality is, you know, my father joked 264 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: about this to some of the minority communities. You know, 265 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: when he was running, which is, hey, what do you 266 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: have to love? You remember that was a big Oh 267 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: my god, it's terrible. The reality is now voting against 268 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: these policies and what they've done to this economy. You 269 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: have a lot to lose. You can actually lose a lot. Uh. 270 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: This is a much riskier proposition than when we were 271 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: dealing with you know, one point eight percent GDP group growth, 272 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: the whist recovery in the history of this thing. And 273 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's a big difference. This could be disastrous. 274 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: And so you know, I don't see too many reasonable people. 275 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: And you know you've seen me in in Iowa and 276 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: sort of outside the Beltway bubble. Uh. You know, I 277 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: think you understand that I have a pretty good grasp 278 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: of people in that part of the world because I 279 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: actually spend real time there. I actually have real friends there. Um. 280 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: You know, I guess how many times they asked me 281 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: about Russia over the last two years. Exactly zero. You know, 282 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: what they're psyched about is that they can bring on 283 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: new hires, that they can bring on people to work, etcetera, etcetera. 284 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: So and when you look at this, I mean and 285 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: and everyone the chatter over the last couple of years. 286 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: And you know this for yourself as well as for 287 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: your sister. Do you ever consider running for office or 288 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: do you think of Manco would ever consider running for office? 289 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I'd never rule it out, Kevin. 290 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Right now, my primary focus is, you know, making sure 291 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: as an American that we can keep this going, that 292 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: we can get our country back on track, that we 293 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: can write you know, the ship and get it going 294 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: in a direction that makes sense again, where you know, 295 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: it's not a problem to say, hey, we're gonna put 296 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: our country first. Uh. You know, the whole notion of 297 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: what's going on over the last few years is is 298 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: absolutely nuts. And I think we're doing that. We're pushing 299 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: back and we're not going to let the rest of 300 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: the world use us as a punching bag because we're 301 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: unwilling uh to pick those fights. Uh. You know, once 302 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: we solve our problems, and you know, while we've done 303 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: a great job at ruling away at some of them, 304 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: you know there's still a lot left to be done. 305 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: And I think my father is going to do that 306 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: and do a great job. And if I can be 307 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: helpful in that and I can be a powerful voice. Uh. 308 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: You know for that that's my primary focus because you know, 309 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm a father of five young kids, and I want 310 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: to make sure that I leave this country, uh, you know, 311 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: in a better place than where we found it. I 312 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: think we're doing that. As for the future, I never 313 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: want to rule it out. I definitely enjoyed the fight. 314 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: I definitely like being out there, and I love being 315 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: able to see, uh, you know, the the impact and 316 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: the difference that it makes. Uh, you know on these 317 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: people's lives that I that I get to see all 318 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: over the country. And like I said earlier, it's you know, 319 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm not just trapped in that New York City bubble. Frankly, 320 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, I show up here for work and the 321 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: rest of my time and all my free time is 322 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: spent everywhere else. Uh And watching that and seeing that 323 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: different Uh, it is truly special. So I never want 324 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: to rule it out. But I'm not saying I'm doing 325 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: it either. It's we have a lot of time. You know, 326 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: my father decided to get into politics at forty one. 327 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: I got plenty of I have to surest question for you. 328 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump Jr. Joining us on on the Bloomberg Radio 329 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: telephone line. Uh, it just put this in perspective in 330 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: terms of just where where Friday and we're Sunday, and 331 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: what happened with with the Mueller investigation. How has that 332 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: reset the Republican Party heading into and how is it 333 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: res set this administration not just from a senior level 334 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: with the President himself, with members of your family and 335 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: senior members of the administration, but from a staff or 336 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: let level as well. Folks who have had to live 337 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: with this is the backdrop for more than two years. Well, 338 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: I imagine it's a huge boost for morale. I mean, 339 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: and that's the reality. Wow. Wow, this was an incredible 340 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: vindication for my father, for myself, for our family. You know. 341 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: More importantly, it was a vindication for all those great 342 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: Americans that stuck by Uh you know what I'm saying, 343 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: negative coverage for a record that you know, other than 344 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: this nonsense, which is now just that nonsense. Uh, and 345 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: shown to me, you know, it's pretty amazing. Don't forget, Kevin, 346 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: I've done twenty seven hours of congressional testimony about this thing. 347 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: You don't think that the nineteen Hillary supporting leftist lawyers 348 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: on the Mueller team has seen all of that and 349 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: would have been glad to indict me or my father 350 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: if they had any opportunity to do so. They would 351 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: have reveled in it. Uh. You know the fact that 352 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: it took this long. Uh you know that they dragged 353 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: it out conveniently after mid terms and all of these things. 354 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: You know, there's still a lot to be said for that. 355 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: But I think for all of those people in the administration, 356 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: for all of those people, and more importantly, for all 357 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: of those just hard working Americans that support us and 358 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: continue to do that and support my father and his policies. Uh, 359 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's been a pretty big week. Uh. 360 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: You know for the media, it's been a disaster. Uh. 361 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: You know that the tinfoil hat brigade in Congress, Adam Schiff, 362 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: it's been a disaster. Uh. For Michael Avanani, you know 363 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: who the media said. You know, this guy's are real 364 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: viable presidential contender. You know, anything that hurts Trump, we're 365 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna back at hook line and sinker. It 366 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. We're just we're gonna go with that. Because 367 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: if you're willing to say something bad about Trump, no problem. Uh, 368 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, you're a contender. How did that work out 369 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: for you? Uh? So, you know, I think it's been 370 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: a great week, and I think it's important and i'd 371 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: like to see us get back on the right track. 372 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: I'd like to see some reasonable Democrats, uh, you know, 373 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: get and you know Lion and say, hey, you know, 374 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: we may not agree with everything, but these are things 375 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: that we can agree on. These are policies that make 376 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: sense for the American people. These are policies are gonna 377 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: gonna put Americans back to work and continue the great 378 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: job numbers that we've seen. I'd love to see that. 379 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that it can happen. You know, it's 380 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: sort of like the media I've seen. There have been 381 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: players that I don't mean like hometeam conservative media people, 382 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: but there are players I won't even mention their names 383 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: because they they'll get killed that actually were reasonably objective 384 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: over the last two years. It's a very small handful 385 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: of them, okay, but they were like, you know, and 386 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: the second they did that, if they said, well, you know, 387 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't look like Don Jr're gonna go, oh my god, 388 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: they just get ratio to death. Uh. You know, it's 389 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: been terrible for those who have done a good job, 390 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: because the lunacy brigade on the other side, you know, 391 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: made it difficult for us to actually believe in those 392 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: institutions again, for us to believe in the media again. 393 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: And and that's a problem. So I'd like to see it. 394 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to see some objectivity. I'd like to see 395 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: some uh, some you know, bipartisanship in getting things that 396 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: makes sense for Americans done. If we do that, I 397 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: think we can really do incredible things, and I think 398 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: it'd be really beneficial for the country of the whole. 399 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: All Right, Donald Trump Jr. Appreciate you calling in some 400 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. That's Donald Trump Jr. Weighing in on the 401 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: Mueller investigation and of course his thoughts on on big 402 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: tech and social media. Conservatives are really weighing in on 403 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: that as well. Our thanks to Donald Trump Junior. Breaking 404 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: news as it's happening. UK Parliament votes four hundred and 405 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: forty one to one hundred and five to approve the 406 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: Brexit delay. I want to get to that again. The 407 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: UK Parliament has voted four hundred and forty one to 408 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: one hundred and five to approve the Brexit delay joining 409 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: me in studio they were listening to that exclusive interview 410 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump Jr. Uh is Dina Bass. She is 411 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: a partner at Bass Public Affairs. She's the former deputy 412 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: chief of staff to Doctor or Ben Carson in his 413 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: role as the HUD Secretary. And Christina ant Hello. She 414 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: is the principal at fair Rocks Strategies. As She worked 415 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: as a Wall Street investment banker and wealth management advisor 416 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: at major Wall Street firms including Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan, 417 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: and she served as a legal fellow with the Senate 418 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Democratic Steering Committee. All right, Christina, you were listening to 419 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump Jr. I take it you agree with everything. Yeah. 420 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: I absolutely agreed with everything he said, especially the whole 421 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: part about um giving the American people what they wanted. 422 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: And I'll just take the quick reminder that actually Hillary 423 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 1: Clinton got the popular vote by more than three million votes. UM, 424 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: so maybe we aren't giving them. But also on the 425 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: financial sides that he talks about in the markets and 426 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: kind of where we are on the policies of the 427 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: Trump administration. Um, you know, I there have been recent 428 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: reports this last week that the that the yield curve 429 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: is inverted and that it portends a potential recession is 430 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: on the way, and maybe that will happen or maybe 431 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: it won't. But um, Nonetheless, I'm not sure that the 432 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Trump can claim a complete success here with with his 433 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: policy sees um as anybody who studies finance knows that 434 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: UM kind of the the immediate financial situation of the 435 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: country can follow well after the year, a year or 436 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: two after the previous president and their policies. But I 437 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: want to come back to this. We do have this 438 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: breaking Brexit news and joining us on the line is 439 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg News columnists in London Terse Raphael, because the UK 440 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Parliament has just voted four hundred and forty one to 441 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: a hundred and five to approve the Brexit delay. Terse, 442 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: what what's going on over there? And what can you 443 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: tell us? Yeah? I mean that vote was not the 444 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: showcase vote of the evening. That simply uh changes the 445 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: domestic law so that the Brexit day now reflects the 446 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: new extended deadline um of April too. But we're waiting 447 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: for is a result on a series of indicative votes 448 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: that will tell us whether there is any sort of 449 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: majority in Parliament for options other than Theresa May Steel 450 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: UM and what just happened a min it ago is 451 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: UH speak of the House. John Burkas suspended the House 452 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: until the votes on the different Brexit models have been counted, 453 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: so he had hoped to announce the results now, but 454 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: they're not ready yet UM, and we are expecting those 455 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: UM to be announced quite soon and then I think 456 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: we'll get a better sense of whether Theresa May's deal 457 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: UM has any hope of returning to Parliament. But it's 458 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: it's not looking good, especially because the Democratic Union Is Party, 459 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: the small northern Irish party that props up her government UH, 460 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: has said today definitively they will not support her deal. 461 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: And if you're just joining us, I'm Kevin Sirlie, Bloomberger's 462 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. Teresa 463 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: Raphael is Bloomberg Opinion editor in London. UK Prime Minister 464 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: Theresa May promised to resign earlier today as British Prime 465 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: Minister if her Conservative Party colleagues dropped their opposition to 466 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: her Brexit strategy and vote to ratify her deal. In 467 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: very simple, simple terms, cerise, where are we now? Because 468 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: we just had this development uh in in the in 469 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: the UK Parliament. But what is the next step and 470 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: what does it precisely mean over the next three hours 471 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: that we should be watching for. Well, for the next 472 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: three hours, we're waiting for results on a series of 473 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: votes that MP's are taken. May has promised to step 474 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: down if her deal gets passed by Parliament. Now they've 475 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: rejected it already twice, and the Speaker of the House 476 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: is said she can't bring it back unless it's changed substantially, 477 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: so it's not even clear she can bring it back 478 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: to the House. And finally, it's not clear even if 479 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: she brings it back to the House, even though she's 480 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: got hardline conservatives who's opposed her deal now on her side, 481 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: it's still not clear she has the maps, the numbers 482 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: to pass that deal. So um, I think if we 483 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: were to say, you know, what designs this mean, I 484 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: think we're heading toward perhaps a softer brefit um than 485 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: what her deal signifies. That means a Brexit would close 486 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: her ties to the European Union then the one that 487 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: many Conservatives wanted and the one that Teresa May has negotiated. 488 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: But at this point it's really too early to say 489 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 1: This is truly remarkable, folks. I mean, if you follow 490 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: any type of government politics internationally, this is a dramatic gamble. 491 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: She is essentially saying UK Prime Minister Theresa May is saying, 492 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: if you get on board with my deal, I will 493 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: step down. And what is unknown is whether or not 494 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: they will agree. Lawmakers in the UK will agree with that. 495 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: She has spent two years negotiating this Brexit deal and 496 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: it's been rejected twice, and not by a slim majority, 497 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: but by a huge majority in Parliament. So if she's 498 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: able to succeed at this, uh, it will she'll no 499 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: doubt have to go out. We have about two minutes left. 500 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: But but your thoughts on this, Teresa, Raphael before we 501 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: have to go to to break Bloomberg Opinion editor in London. Yeah, 502 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, she's she's you know, she's a consummate political survivor. 503 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: Remember she called the seventeen general election. The Tories lost 504 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: their majority in Parliament. A lot of people called for 505 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: her to step down then, and she said, look, I'll 506 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: leave when you want me to, but um, I'd like 507 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: to continue doing the work of the country, and she 508 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: was kept on. There was a challenge to her leadership 509 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: in December and she survived that, so you know, I 510 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't count her out even now or you know, say 511 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: definitively that her deal is dead. I think it's a 512 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: very very hard road for her to get it past, 513 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: given where the parliamentary numbers are, and given that many 514 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: MPs now think that there are alternatives. All Right, I 515 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: want to thank UH to Teresa Fael, Bloomberg Opinion editor 516 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: in London. You've been listening to the breaking news that 517 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: has gone on here as we have been speaking. The 518 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: pound has fallen after the Parliament rejected May over her 519 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: Brexit deal. We've also just heard earlier in the program 520 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: them from Donald Trump Jr. Coming up. We have an 521 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: all star panel to react to these breaking news and 522 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: of course to the ongoing trade story that we are 523 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: also following, as Treasury Secretary Stephen Manusian and US Trade 524 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: Representative Bob Leightheiser are negotiating for the rest of the 525 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: week in Beijing with the Chinese. I am Kevin SURREALI remember. 526 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: You can download UH the Sound on podcast on Apple iTunes, 527 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg dot Com or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. 528 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: Check us out at Radio dot Com and I Heart Radio. 529 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin SERELLI. This is Bloomberg. This is Sound On 530 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: with Kevin Sling on Bloomberg one and one oh five 531 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: point seven f m h D two. Boltemore. A busy 532 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: day here in Washington, d C. We're following multiple front 533 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: says UH. Theresa May has promised to resign as British 534 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: Prime Minister if her Conservative Party colleagues dropped their opposition 535 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: to her Brexit strategy and vote to ratify her deal. 536 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: That's got some major international market implications. Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary 537 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: Stephen no Nation and US Trade Representative Bob Leitheizer are 538 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: over in China or in route to to negotiate UH, 539 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: the the US China trade deal. Joining me in studio. 540 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: Dina Bass, partner at Bass Public Affair. She's former deputy 541 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: chief of staff to Hunt Secretary Ben Ben Carson. Christina 542 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: Antello is principal at Barracks strat Farrock's Strategies. UH. She's 543 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: worked at JP Morgan and Goldman UH and served as 544 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: a legal legal fellow with the Senate Democratic Steering Committee. 545 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: All right, so Christina, we were talking earlier about what 546 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: we heard from Don Jr. About the economic forecast, Dina 547 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: you as well. We're listening to that. I want to 548 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: thank you both for being so patient during this breaking 549 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: news with breggsit. But I wanted to let you finish 550 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: in terms of where you think things stand economically, uh 551 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: here in the US, as we've got so many different 552 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: uncertain factors with trade as well as a host of 553 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 1: other different things on the economic forecast. Sure, thank you. 554 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: I UM, you know, I was making the point earlier 555 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: that earlier this week, we had seen the inverted yield 556 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: curve and that might pretend that there is a recession 557 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: but possibly on the way. Um. And with that, I 558 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: would kind of call into that, you know, coming out 559 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: of the last administration, a lot of their policies might 560 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: have led to all of these UM glorious accolades that 561 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Mr Trump was trying to take advantage of, um for 562 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: his father. But what I would argue is that now 563 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: with we're starting to see in this tax season kind 564 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: of the ramifications that happened with their quote unquote tax 565 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: reform and the the amount of debt that our our 566 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: economies had to take on because of that, uh, and 567 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: I think that that's going to continue to have a 568 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: negative impact on our economy going forward. So I think 569 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: that's going to really play out into you know, UM, 570 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: I would have to disagree with Christina, my colleague and friend, 571 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: on on these issues. First of all, she UM does 572 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: have a great deal of experience on Wall Street, and 573 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, people like me live on Main Street and 574 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: in that space. You know, I look at the UM 575 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: the increase in my healthcare under Obamacare, I look at 576 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: the UM at things I do, look at the tax 577 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: relief that this president has um ushered in. And and 578 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: so while UM these things may not be a big 579 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: deal to Wall Street, they are certainly a big deal 580 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: to people like me on Main Street. And so while 581 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that the president can take credit for 582 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: every single thing that UM that has happened with the economy, 583 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: I certainly believe that his UM tax relief, I believe 584 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: that UM UM looking at reforming, if not completely repealing 585 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: Obamacare are things that the American people actually do want. 586 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: So UM, I think I would disagree that the American 587 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: people want it. They've tried to repeal it now and 588 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: Congress so many times, and they continue to be But 589 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that there's been a 590 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: fire in the belly in Congress to actually do that. 591 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: I think that, Um, I think that Americans actually do 592 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: feel the pain of Obamacare, and I think that what 593 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: they want is healthcare access and and and what we're 594 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: seeing now as we're you know, we have a slate 595 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: of a about twenty Democrats vying for UH their party's nomination. 596 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: We're looking at things like, um, complete government takeover of healthcare. 597 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: So that is not what that is not what Americans want. 598 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: I think americans want something in between, but definitely not 599 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: a complete government takeover. Dina Bass's partner at Bass Public Affairs. 600 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: Former Deputy chief of Staff to HUD Secretary Dr. Ben Carson. 601 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Christina Antello is principal at fair Rock Strategy. She's worked 602 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: at Golden Sachs and JP Morgan and served as a 603 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: legal fellow with the Senate Democratic Steering Committee. Coming up, 604 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk much more about healthcare policy. President Trump 605 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: saying that healthcare is the debate he wants to have 606 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: with the American people heading into the reelect. You can 607 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk much more about the ins and outs 608 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: of that. I'm Kevin Cirelli. You're listening to Bloomberg this 609 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: is sound on with Kevin's relation in Bloomberg and one 610 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: oh m H D two Baltimore. Happy humpt folks. If 611 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: you are going to be at the Export Import Bank 612 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: Annual Conference tomorrow in Washington, D C. I will be 613 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: there in the afternoon, moderating the Congressional panel. It's very 614 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: timely given that US Trade Representative Bob Leitheizer is headed 615 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: to China with Treasury Secretary Stephen Manustion to uh negotiate 616 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: the U S China trade deals. And then Leo Hua 617 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: is going to be here. He's the Chinese Vice Premier 618 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: in Washington, D C. On April three, So the trade 619 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: story continuing. Meanwhile, Uh, there's also all of the chatter 620 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: in Washington, D C. As where the debate goes now 621 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: that the Mueller report, a story has seemingly ended. Democrats 622 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: saying that they want that immediate release of the Mueller report, 623 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: but it's unclear if they're going to be able to 624 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: have any mechanism to get it, a Republican saying shore 625 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: of release. A President Trump, for his part, he's headed 626 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: to Michigan tomorrow night, where he will be giving a 627 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: campaign style rally. It's been a busy, busy day for 628 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: us here on on the sound on Team UH and 629 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: many thanks to our our team behind the scenes. We 630 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: had Donald Trump Jr. On earlier following right after that, 631 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of Brexit breaking news, Theresa May has 632 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: promised to resign as British Prime Minister if her Conservative 633 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: Party colleagues dropped their opposition to her Brexit UH strategy 634 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: and vote to ratify her deal. Meanwhile, we're getting a 635 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: breaking news now that from the House Judiciary Committee Chairman 636 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: Jerry Nadler. He is a Democrat from New York and 637 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: he's saying that Attorney General William Barr will not meet 638 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: the April second deadline that was set for the Mueller report. 639 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: So the latest twist in the m Mueller saga. And 640 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: joining us to help sort through all of this, do 641 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: the Bass partner of Bass Public Affairs. She's former deputy 642 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: chief of staff to HUD Secretary Doctor Ben Carson. Christina 643 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: Antello is a principal at Bairrocks Strategies. She's worked as 644 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: a Wall Street investment banker and wealth management advisor at 645 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: firms including Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan, and served as 646 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: a legal fellow with the Senate Democratic Steering Committee. I 647 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: want to thank both of them for both of your 648 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: first time on the program. Dina, Where do you go 649 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: in terms of word of Republicans go in terms of 650 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: what debate they should be having as the Mueller investigation 651 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: wraps up? You know, I am ready for the health 652 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: care debate. I'm ready for the healthcare debate because I 653 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: think that it needs to be settled. I love listening 654 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: to Democrats talk about government takeover of health care. That's 655 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: the last thing that they need to do. UM. What 656 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: they probably should try to do is UM hang on 657 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: to Muller, Muller Muller as long as they can. But 658 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: as long as they talk about UM taking away private 659 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: health insurance, as long as they talk about a thirty 660 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: two trillion dollar UM bill for the American people to 661 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: have a government takeover of healthcare, then I think that 662 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: Republicans continue to wine. There are parts of the Affordable 663 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: Care Act or Obamacare that are popular, that are that work, 664 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: and I think that Republicans recognize that. UM. There are 665 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: some things like you know, remaining on your parents health 666 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: insurance until you're twenty six. I personally think as year old, 667 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: you need to be kind of managing on your own, 668 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: but America loves it. So if you want to be 669 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: a twenty six year old still hanging out on your 670 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: parents health care, Republicans see that as an advantage and 671 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: they want to keep that pre existing conditions, those things. 672 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: There are some things that are working and that um 673 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: this administration has made work even better. Christina shaking her head, 674 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna agree with my colleague 675 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: on a couple of things that I do think that 676 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm ready for the healthcare debate as well. I would. 677 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: I would argue that the healthcare debate is why Democrats 678 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: retook the House. Thank you very much. We appreciate all 679 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: the chairmanships that came with that. UM, And what I 680 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: will say is that I think going forward, we continue 681 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: to see that and the Trump administration. The way I 682 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: see it, the way it comes across to me, is 683 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: if you have great, because gonna get more. But if 684 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 1: you have not, then we're going to take it away. 685 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the thousands of people that are 686 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: being kicked off of Medicare and Medicaid because of the 687 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: work requirements that the Trump administration is leveling on the 688 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: state level and approving as waivers on the Obamacare and 689 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: and and um other public programs. Christina Antello is a 690 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: principal at fair Rock Strategy. She's worked at Goldman at 691 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: JP Morgan. She was a legal fellow with the Senate 692 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: Democratic Steering Committee. Dina Bass is a partner at Bass 693 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: Public Affairs, former Deputy chief of Staff to Hunt Secretary 694 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: Dr Ben Carson. We're talking about the healthcare debate, but 695 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: as I was listening to both of you, I was 696 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: scratching my head and wondering, so, where are the details 697 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: of a Republican healthcare plan? I was, I was where 698 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: the details to the Green New Deal? I mean, where 699 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: are the details? Truly, I'm not even trying to where 700 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: because I was struck by this team. I know you 701 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: want to jump in here, but I mean President Trump 702 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: was on Capitol Hill yesterday. You know. I was up there, 703 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: and I was struck at all of the staffers that 704 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: I was watching scratching their heads in the Republican Party 705 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: and saying, wait, what we're going to talk health care? 706 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: Where's the rollout, where's the where's the unveil of this? 707 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: You know, I think that I personally believe that the 708 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: that we definitely need more details. But what I what 709 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: the question is for me, how do you pay for 710 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: what the Democrats want? So that's the debate I want 711 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: to have. I want to there are some things about 712 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: Obamacare that I think we need to fix, So I'm 713 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not in the space of of tearing 714 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: it all down right now. You know, personally, my healthcare 715 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: care certainly increased under Obamacare. I thought I could keep 716 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: doctors that I couldn't keep. All those things. You know, Um, 717 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: we're troubling to me as well. But the debate that 718 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: I want to have, the the question that I want 719 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: every Democrat who's running for president right now to answer, 720 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: is how are we going to pay for a government 721 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: takeover of health care? And I also want to understand 722 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: how do we expect the government to do a better job? Um, 723 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: the government. When the government takes over anything, we get 724 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 1: clunky red tape. It's never as good as when private 725 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: end three takes it over. I will recognize and I 726 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: will concede to my friend Christina that yes, um, um, 727 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: we do need to have oversight. We do need to 728 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: make sure that people, um do have access. We want 729 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: to expand, but we do not want to um have 730 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: the government take it over. That's what I'm trying to 731 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: figure out. What is it? What is the answer? But see, 732 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: what's interesting here is that I'm looking at the healthcare 733 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 1: debate Christina, that Republicans are about to have, and I'm 734 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: having flashbacks to immigration and the debate that happened in 735 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: the Republican Party when you have and culture saying it 736 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: was not build some of the wall, it was build 737 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: a wall. It was not repeal and repeal parts of Obamacare, 738 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: it was repeal Obamacare, which they're about in a court care. 739 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: But if the question is to repeal Obamacare or to 740 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: have the government take over over health care, and even 741 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: if the question is to repeal Obamacare and not have 742 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: a plan and have the government take over health care, 743 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: I would rather repeal Obamacare without a plan than to 744 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: have a government take it over, because when the government 745 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: takes over anything, it is a disaster. All Right, Christina, 746 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: what's going wrong with the Green New Deal? Because I truthfully, 747 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: I've interviewed folks in every faction of the Democratic Party 748 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: on this and I'm still hard pressed to find details 749 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: of what exactly precisely it means. I'm going to confess 750 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: to both of you that I'm not the right Democrat 751 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: to go off and defend Medicare for All or the 752 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: Green New Deal completely. The way I view the Green 753 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: New Deal personally is, you know what, climate change is 754 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: a problem. We do believe it's man made. We do 755 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: need some solutions, and I'm going to view the Green 756 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: New Deal as an RFP, a request for proposals. So 757 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: everybody with your ideas, put them all on the table 758 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: and let's start researching and let's start figuring it out. 759 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: Let's hash it out and debate it and come up 760 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: with the specific details, because I don't think that we 761 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,959 Speaker 1: can go all the way to the extreme, as Alexandria 762 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: Ocascio Cortez saying, like, oh, let's all become vegan so 763 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: we don't need as many cows and so that way 764 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: there will be less. You know, nothing against vegans. For 765 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: the record, I don't either, but I'm just saying sounds 766 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: like you do, Christina. No. Not to be honest, I'm 767 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: from Texas and I love that did say, so I'm 768 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: not giving that up. It's just not gonna happen. You're 769 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: a cowboys man, I am. I see it on the 770 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: fund for I'm a die hard Philadelphia Eagles. The second 771 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: she said, Dina that she was from Dallas, I said, 772 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: she's got to be a cowboys all right. So you 773 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: heard this from Don Junior, Christina or earlier on in 774 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: the show, he referred to the former Vice president Joe Biden, 775 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: who everyone wants to know when is he getting in 776 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: the race? Is he getting in the race? Is he 777 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: gonna do it? Is he not going to do it? 778 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: He referred to him as a quote unquote swamp creature 779 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: end quote. Should the former vice president throw his hat 780 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: into the crowded Democratic primary race? Do you think obviously 781 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: Republicans are going to criticize the left, but do you 782 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: think the other folks are going to try to define 783 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: him as a swamp creature? You know, he certainly has 784 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: a long track record here in Washington that he will 785 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: be called to account for on numerous numerous fronts, and 786 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: that is fair and that is legitimate, and he should 787 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: do that. Do I think he should enter? Absolutely he should, 788 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: because I think he's got a strong following and and 789 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: he brings a lot to the table in terms of 790 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: the debate and whoever the candidate is, whether it's him 791 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: or anyone else, he will make them a stronger candidate 792 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: by virtue of making them go through through the paces 793 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: of that kind of debate. You know, I will admit 794 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: that Uncle Joe is my UM as a Republican. He 795 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: is the candidate that I fear most absolutely. I think 796 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: I think, first of all, Um, he has um weathered 797 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: the storms and he is he understands that President Trump 798 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: counter punches, and so he is ready to go in swinging. 799 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: And I think that the only person that will be 800 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: able if anyone can defeat Um President Trump. But I 801 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: don't think that he will be able to be defeated. 802 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: But if anyone can, it's going to be someone who's 803 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 1: going to be willing to go and go and punching. 804 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: I think that Um, that Joe Biden is willing to 805 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: do that. And I also think, I mean, from my 806 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: side on the aisle, I you know, I haven't picked 807 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: my candidate just yet, but I do think that some 808 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: of the folks that are more progressive, that's gonna be 809 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: a tougher sell, right. I mean, we lost the last election. 810 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: Democrats lost the last election because we we didn't talk 811 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: to the folks in the middle of the country. The 812 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: main streeters and they wanted to know that you understood them. 813 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that our super progressives on the 814 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: coasts are going to be able to do. Do you 815 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: think President Trump is emboldened in the political lens now 816 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: that this Mueller issue has been in many ways decided? 817 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely says yes, But do you I do think that, 818 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: But you know what, I don't think he got any 819 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: smarter because three days later he took on healthcare and 820 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't ready to go. And so you know, I 821 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: he's emboldened, yes, but he's always been emboldened. But what 822 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: I need is what I would be more fearful of 823 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: as a Democrat, is if he all of a sudden 824 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: became strategic and all right, well we're gonna havesolute it 825 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: there where we've run out of time. My special, special, 826 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: sincere gratitude to Dina Bass, first time on the program. 827 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: She's a partner of Bass Public Affairs. She's former deputy 828 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: chief of Staff to Hunt Secretary Ben Carson uh and 829 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: Christina Antello, principle at Fair Rock Strategies of Dallas Cowboys fan. 830 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: I can't say that I don't have all the sides 831 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: on and she's worked at Golden Saxon, JP Morgan, and 832 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: served as a legal fellow with the Senate Democratic Steering Committee. 833 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: That's it for me. Thanks for listening. I'm Kevin Crelli. 834 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg