1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Listener mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and we're bringing you some of the messages that you've 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: sent in over the past few weeks. Uh. I guess 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: we don't have any business right here at the top, Rob, 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: do you want to jump right in with this message 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: from me? How responding to our episodes on The Holy Undead? Certainly? Uh? 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: So me? How? Rights? Hello Joe and Robert. I hope 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: you're both doing well. I'm writing to you from Poland, 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: where all the trees are now beautifully colored, winds are 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: getting cold, and nights are longer and longer. I love autumn, 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: with its atmosphere that suits horror and folk tales so well. 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: I was very impressed with your two partner on the 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Holy Undead, and hearing those tales and stories reminded me 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: of one that searched elated around my hometown. I grew 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: up in a reasonably small town in the south of Poland, 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: where you have mostly forests, hills, bogs and meadows. It's 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: rather picturesque, but can also get a bit spooky. My 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: town has a population of ten thousand people and it's 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: rather old. Oldest written record that mentions it dates back 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: to the fourteenth century, where it's called by its current name, 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: though in Latin. We have a few local legends around, 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: but one always creep me out more than the others. 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: You see, my town has two parishes. The older one 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: was established in eighteen seventy and the other around the 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Here comes the twist. It's not the old 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: parish that has a creepy tail attached to it, Smiley face, 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: and I assumed like sinister Smiley face. The church from 30 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: the eighties. For a long time was simply a wooden 31 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: bungalow with a cross mounted on the roof. It's been 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: that way until the priest that was in charge of 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: it raised enough money to build a new, proper temple. 34 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: He oversaw the construction and with the money that was left, 35 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: he ordered a graveyard to be built in the proximity 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: of the church. He was a standout man. I actually 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: met him as a kid. He was harsh and very devoted, 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: but just and good with children. But he also had 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: crippling diabetes and eventually he died because of it, I 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: will never forget his last mass, where he mumbled prayers 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: and could barely stand behind the altar. Like I said, 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: he was devoted and wouldn't let anyone talk him out 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: of doing his job as long as he could. Due 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: to reasons unknown to me, he did not consecrate the 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: graveyard that he built. It's widely known across my town 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: that he wanted to, and the fact that he didn't 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: was one of his biggest regrets. So the tale that 48 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you, but I felt compelled to 49 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: make into an intro to is that his restless spirit 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: haunted the graveyard demanding it be consecrated. His body was 51 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: actually the first one to be laid to the ground 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: over there, which I always found to be quite something. 53 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: So legend says that if you'd venture into the yard 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: at night, you could have met with the ghost of 55 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: a priest asking you to do all you can to 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: consecrate the land. The ghost would go on and say 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: that no soul will ever leave the place until it's 58 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: properly consecrated. Eventually, the new priest came over and the 59 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: first thing he did was he went to the graveyard 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: with a bucket of Holy Water smiley faith. Uh, it 61 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: must have laid the old priest spirit to rest, because 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: all the accounts of him haunting the place ended there. 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: I've never seen the ghost nor went to the cemetery 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: at night, but I know a lot of folks who 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: swear they've seen the apparition. When I was a kid, 66 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: I believed it without asking any questions. Now, though, I 67 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: think of it as a creepy and wholesome tale from 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: an otherwise quite boring corner of the world. I hope 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: this email wasn't too long and you've found some entertainment 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: reading it. Stay spooky and happy Halloween. Me. How wow, 71 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: So a a thoroughly authentic modern story of the pious undead. 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: This is quite similar to the to the tales we 73 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: were talking about in the episodes. Yeah, this is quite 74 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: a treat. Uh. The one thing I like in this 75 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: one is that it's one of those ghost stories that 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: involves the ghosts specifically asking the living to do something 77 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: on behalf of the ghost. I don't think any of 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: the other tales had that, or maybe I'm forgetting one 79 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: and the other ones were just like get out of here, 80 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: this is it's ghost time. Now you know Nimes, Yeah exactly, 81 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: no humans allowed, but this one it seems to suggest 82 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: a supernatural set of rules, including the idea that a 83 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: graveyard that is not yet consecrated is like a prison 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: for ghosts, that the spirits cannot leave until it's consecrated, 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: and he needs the new priest to throw the holy 86 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: water on. Yeah. This is neat because it also ligns 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: up with a lot of modern ghost stories and ghost 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: media where ghost is doing something and it's and it 89 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: leads to the question, well, what can we do to 90 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: fix this? Let's fix this? And I feel like some 91 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: of the better ghost stories, like something say The Ring, 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: subvert this by ultimately the answer of being nothing like you. 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: You You may think you can reason with the undead, 94 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: that you cannot. Uh. This reminds me a lot of 95 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: some of the stuff we talked about in the Least, 96 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: the episode from last year that I believe we recently 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: re ran, where we talked about the idea of the wilderness, 98 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: like the older idea of the wilderness often being one 99 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: where it's it's wild out there. It maybe it has rules, 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: but it's not rules you can understand, um, And we 101 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: get into a more modern understand where it's like, oh, 102 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: we know them basically how they the wild work, and 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: we can we can you know, try and do things 104 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: to to follow those laws or fix things, etcetera. And 105 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: I wonder if we see a similar thing here with 106 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: the with the idea of the wild world of the Spirits. Yeah, 107 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: that's interesting, And you mentioned the Ring. I mean, I 108 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: think there are a few stories I can think of. 109 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: They're sort of like this where um, where if there 110 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: is a logic to the wild World of the Spirits 111 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: and there are rules there, the extent to which you 112 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: can grasp the rules and leverage them is only enough 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: to sort of like get you personally out of trouble, 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: not to sort of make everything right eight, which ultimately 115 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: is the resolution in the Ring. Right, it's the you know, 116 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: you can't really like fix the problem. You can only 117 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: sort of help the help the evil spread, and that 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: will at least save your skin for the time being. 119 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: All Right. This next message comes from Matt. This is 120 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: on our pair of episodes on the invention of the chainsaw. 121 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Matt says, good day, Fellas regarding your sawe adjacent chainsaw episodes, 122 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: which were excellent. I thought you'd be interested to hear 123 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: about a particularly interesting and potentially deadly chainsaw slash logging 124 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: related phenomenon known as the barber chair. The name alone 125 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: falls in line with the seasonal theme. I think a 126 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: barber chair refers to a particular result of improperly cutting 127 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: the front hinge point of a tree, causing unintended pressure 128 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: in the middle of the trunk elsewhere. I'm not a professional, 129 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: so please take this description with a large pinch of salt. 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: The result is that the tree splits upwards and falls 131 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: somewhere overhead of the intended felling notch, and not necessarily 132 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: in the direction intended. I've seen it happen on smaller 133 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: trees while cutting trails through the bush. Even small ones 134 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: can still be dangerous, but I imagine it's quite scary. 135 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: On larger ones. It can also ruin what would otherwise 136 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: be good lumber. There are many reasons professional arborists warn 137 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: people about the dangers of an improperly cut hinge. Maybe 138 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: someday a horror director will utilize the barber's chair on film. 139 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for the episode, Matt, uh and so, Matt, I 140 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: had no idea about this. Thank you for letting us know, 141 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: because I looked this up and it is astonishing and scary. 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: So it is as Matt describes, for in some cases, 143 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: you can be sawing horizontally into the trunk of a tree, 144 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: and if the circumstances are right, the tree can start 145 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: to fall over before you have cut all the way through, 146 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: and this leads to the the trunk splitting vertically, so 147 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 1: like part of the trunk peels off of the rest 148 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: of the trunk and flips up like a like a 149 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: hinge or like a like a trap lever, sort of 150 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: springing up out of nowhere. And I've seen I've watched 151 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: some videos of this happening in real time while people 152 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: are taping themselves sawing through trees, which I guess is 153 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: you have to be lucky enough to be recording the 154 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: sawing through anyway, which would normally not be something that 155 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: people would think to film. But uh yeah, it looks 156 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: really scary when it happens suddenly, like the tree starts 157 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: kind of twisting in a way that isn't expected. And 158 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: in both of the cases I saw the the sawyer 159 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: who's working the chainsaw gets out of the way fast 160 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: enough to not be harmed. But I've also seen illustrations 161 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: of how loggers could be killed by this. For example, 162 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: if the hinge that pops up when the trunk splits 163 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: up the vertical axis, it can basically pop up like 164 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: a big you know, a big smacking arm and like 165 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: hit you in the head and kill you. Yeah, I hope. 166 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: One of the big takeaways from our chainsaw episodes and 167 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: these are I think things that were that either I 168 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: kind of learned or were you know, strengthened for me. 169 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: Is that Okay? In our culture, we might think that 170 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: that the saw the chainsaw is kind of our right, 171 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: you know that it's like, of course I need a chainsaw, 172 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: or I should get a chainsaw, or something needs sawing 173 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: in my backyard. I should just go get one, and 174 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: I can do this. But you know, regardless of what 175 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: your decision happens to be on a matter like that, like, 176 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: respect the saw. Respect the fact that it is a 177 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: tool that can can potentially be dangerous or put you 178 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: in a dangerous position, and uh, you know you should 179 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: you should absolutely take it seriously. Yeah, the saw and 180 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: the tree. Respect the tree. Yeah, yeah, because the tree 181 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: too is one of those things where when the tree 182 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: is is healthy and standing up still as they do 183 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: most of the time, it's easy to forget, like how 184 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: dangerous they can be if they are suddenly in motion. Yeah, exactly, 185 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: And and especially in this case, if they're in motion 186 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: in a way that you didn't expect. So you may 187 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: be taking proper safety p cautions in in terms of 188 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: no one being down line of the tree in the 189 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: direction that you're expecting it to fall. But if you 190 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: have one of these barber chair incidents, the tree could 191 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: be exerting sudden violent force and directions that you did 192 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: not plan. Yeah. Now, as for seeing the barber chair 193 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: in a horror movie, I I don't really want to 194 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: see that. I think if you were to tell me, yes, 195 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: we finally we've made a chainsaw horror movie and it's 196 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: about realistic chainsaw injuries and chainsaw related fatalities, I feel like, no, 197 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: that does not sound good. You keep your final destination chainsaw. 198 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm trying to imagine how that would be used 199 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: in a plot. I mean, like, is there a pivotal 200 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: tree cutting down scene, Like his leather face chasing somebody 201 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: and he has to cut down a tree to get 202 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: to them, but then the barber chair smacks him and 203 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: defeats him. Um, you know, I'll tell you what if 204 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: someone his heart set on creating a film like this, 205 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that Michael Shay wrote a short story 206 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: I think it's called Uncle Tugs that had some some 207 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: chainsaw mishaps in it because the plot had to do 208 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: with like loggers in northern California, and there was like 209 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: a grow house and also some sort of vengeful ghost, 210 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: and I believe the vengeful ghost was causing some accidents 211 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: to occur, and so that would actually be a pretty 212 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: decent story if someone wanted to find some sort of 213 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: narrative structure in which to fit a whole bunch of 214 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: chainsaw accidents. Well, speaking of chainsaw accidents, the next message 215 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: that we're going to read also does mention these, so 216 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: before warned. All right, this is from Kenneth Hi Robin Joe. 217 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: Excellent episode on the invention and history of the chainsaw. 218 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: I had been planning to write in a few days ago, 219 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: but the unexpectedly early birth of our first child put 220 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: thoughts of an email on the back burner. Congratulations. Kenneth continues, 221 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: I had a couple of thoughts regarding chainsaws, the first 222 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: of which was the dramatic and near fatal experience of 223 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: a friend's husband, a tree surgeon by trade, he was 224 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: at work removing heavy, overhanging bows from a large urban oak. 225 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: The section who was working on was high above the streets, 226 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: so he ascended using a cherry picker, then made his 227 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: way through the branches and secured himself to the trunk 228 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: with a harness. Unfortunately, at some point in the tree's 229 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: long history something substantial had been secured to the branch. 230 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: As it grew, It had entirely absorbed a thick steel bolt. 231 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: When his chainsaw reached the hidden metal, it kicked back violently, 232 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: biting deep into his thigh and nicking the femoral artery. 233 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: It was only through the quick thinking of his colleague, 234 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: the speedy arrival of the fire service, and close proximity 235 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: to a hospital that his life was saved. Oh, this 236 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: gets right into something you mentioned in the episodes that 237 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: the one of the main sources of direct injuries from 238 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: chainsaws being kicked back. Yeah. And here, yeah, this sound, 239 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: this unseen metal hidden within the tree branch. And yeah, 240 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: you do see plenty of this in a not only 241 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: in an urban environment, even rural environment. You see you 242 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: see trees growing around metal be it. Uh, you know weird. 243 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: I've certainly seen weird poles position near trees and on trees, 244 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: and you see trees growing in and around fencing. So 245 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: that's that's interesting and terrifying. I'm glad they turned out Okay, Yeah, 246 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: the tree just swallows stuff. So yes, like Rob said, 247 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: very glad to hear your your friend's husband was all right? 248 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: Can it continues my second thoughts since the Texas chainsaw 249 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: massacre and the Evil Dead were so central to the episode, 250 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: uh was about chainsaws as weapons? I know Rob has 251 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: a bit of a soft spot for games workshop models, 252 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: and it's impossible to talk about Warhammer forty thousand without 253 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: considering a space marine welding a chain sword. I've included 254 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: a photograph of a space marine apothecary, basically a battlefield medic, 255 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: bearing one of these weapons. If you look closely at 256 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: his wrist, you'll notice he's also equipped with a smaller 257 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: medical chainsaw, though I'm assuming this is for on the 258 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: spot amputations rather than obstetric I'm assuming that the space 259 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: marine apothecary is not strongly informed by real life medical science. No. 260 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: I think if memory serves, one of his primary jobs 261 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: is to remove the gene seed from a corpse. I 262 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: don't know that the real lore masters out there. We'll 263 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: have to uh tell me if I'm correct on that. 264 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: So I'm not even sure he's supposed to save lives 265 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: as much as like, let's get that important uh gene 266 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: thinging out of the dead body. Um. Anyways, the space 267 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: Marine apothecary does not have a Hippocratic oath. Probably not, 268 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Kenneth continues, I'm not sure a chain sword would be 269 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: a particularly effective weapon. You probably couldn't use it like 270 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: a traditional sword, as pairing and violent striking attacks would 271 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: cause damage to the mechanism. It would probably have to 272 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: be brought to bear on vulnerable points without great chopping swings. 273 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: I do enjoy the idea of the chain sword as 274 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: a futuristic melee weapon. It's in the vein of the 275 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: viral blade, lightsaber and monofilament edges of other sci fi weapons, 276 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: but it is typically over the top, fitting the brutality 277 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: of the grim Dark setting better. It brims with the 278 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: implication you alluded to that the weapon itself is hungry, 279 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: that the only the slightest touch can cause catastrophic damage, 280 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: even getting away from the user. In its eagerness to 281 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: be about its purpose. It is a brutal weapon, unlike 282 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: the more civilized lightsaber, even though the latter would be 283 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: even more devastating. Anyway, Thanks for the amazing show. Keep 284 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: up the great work, Kenneth. It sounds like Kenneth throwing 285 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: cold water on my Texas lightsaber massacre idea. Yeah, well, 286 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, it would be uh well, it would be 287 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot of clean cuts, that's the thing. As for 288 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: the chain swords, I actually did have a note about 289 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: chain swords in the notes for our chainsall episodes, but 290 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: then I decided not to say anything about it because 291 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, they don't want to hear anything about 292 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: Warhammer in this episode. But but not true enough. There 293 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: there are a lot of chain swords in there. I'm 294 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: not sure. Surely chain swords pop up another fiction, um, 295 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: but this is the main in place you see them. Yeah, 296 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't think they would particularly be practical weapons, even 297 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: if you try to explain them away with a bunch 298 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: of like, you know, high tech materials and you know, uh, 299 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, super well designed um uh you know, chain 300 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: and so forth. But it does fit this sort of 301 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: this grim you know, at times overly macho vibe that 302 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: that Warhammer forty has going for it and probably ties 303 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: in well to a lot of the you know, the satire. 304 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: I think that was originally intended by the world. But anyway, Kenneth, 305 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: thanks for writing in, and once more, congrats on the kiddo. Okay, Rob, 306 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: you ready for a couple of messages having to do 307 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: with weird house cinema, or at least adjacent to it. 308 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Okay, let's see how about this one 309 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: from Nathan Nathan says Hi, Joe, Robert, and Seth. I 310 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: was recently watching the cinematic masterpiece Christine. Not long after 311 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: re listening to your episode on The Ship of Theseus, 312 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorites, I started wondering about 313 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: the lore of the movie. And if you're not familiar, 314 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: this is a movie about I don't know, a demonic car. 315 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: That guy, a guy has a kind of unhealthy obsessive 316 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: relationship with Okay, moving on. If the car had been 317 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: completely restored every single part, would it still be so murderous? 318 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Or is the car possessed on a deeper level? We're 319 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: asking the tough questions here, uh, Nathan Nathan then says, 320 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: I also really enjoyed your recent episodes on the invention 321 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: of the chainsaw. However, I can't believe you didn't mention 322 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: Paul Bunyan. The nineteen fifty eight Disney short is a classic, 323 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: even for someone like me who isn't the biggest Disney fan. Anyway, 324 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: you guys do a great job, and again, thanks for 325 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: keeping me entertained on my boring overnight grocery job. Nathan. Well, Nathan, 326 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: I did not have time to watch the whole short 327 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: before we uh we started recording here, but I clicked 328 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: around and saw some moments of it. One of the 329 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: things that really got me is it starts off by 330 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: and I love the animation style, by the way, so 331 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: it does look great. But it starts off by showing 332 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: a shadow of the title hero, Paul Bunyan, looming over 333 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: a map of North America, and I noticed something I 334 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: thought was really interesting. I was like, Wow, they chose 335 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: to depict Paul Bunyan with long hair that he wears 336 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: in a bun And I was like, could that be 337 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 1: a choice connected to the name Bunyan. But then I 338 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: realized I had simply been misled by the silhouette he's 339 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: actually wearing some kind of wool cap that has like 340 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: a pom pom or a gathered up section on the top, 341 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: so he doesn't have a bun. But I thought that 342 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: would have been cool. Um, And I guess, you know, 343 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: in the broader sense, not that unusual. Tons of kinds 344 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: of like bun and topknot hairstyles have been common for 345 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: men and plenty of cultures throughout history. But would it 346 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: would have been interesting to see Paul Bunyan in a 347 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: cartoon from the fifties with a bun alas I vaguely 348 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: remember this cartoon looking at these stills, but I guess 349 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: it's not one that I watched a lot, or maybe 350 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 1: we didn't have on VHS. Yeah, I think it's like 351 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: seventeen minutes long, So I don't know what was the 352 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: venue for showing things like this in the fifties. It's 353 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: like shorter than I obviously much shorter than a feature 354 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: length movie. Would this like play in a movie theater 355 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: or play like before a feature film? I don't know. 356 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: That sounds like a question for our producer, Seth, what 357 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: do you know? Reporting from from a few minutes later, 358 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: Seth did have the answer Seth knows everything about animation. Well, 359 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to put too much pressure on him, 360 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: but he does often have the answer here. Uh so, 361 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: apparently these shorts were originally compiled into feature films and 362 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: uh so, you know you'd have Paul Bunyan alongside some 363 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: other shorts of a similar type and and that would 364 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: be shown as a feature in theaters. But then later 365 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: I guess they were split up and shown in other ways. 366 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: But also, like I said, I did not have time 367 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: to watch this whole thing. But skipping around, there is 368 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: a fun scene where Paul Bunyan walks through a four 369 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: and he's just mowing down trees by swinging his axe 370 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: back and forth like it's a weed eater, and then 371 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: he walks back over the ground he has cut down, 372 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: stomping on all of the stumps to to sink them 373 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: down into the earth. And uh and also Nathan doesn't 374 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: mention it, but I assume this is part of what 375 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: he's referring to as saying that this would have been 376 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: a good thing to fit into our episode on the Chainsaw, 377 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: because there's a part where Paul Bunyan it looks like 378 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: he has to compete against a guy who shows up 379 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: with a steam powered saw. So it's like, yeah, it's 380 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: the war against the machines, though shot not make a 381 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: saw in the likeness of man now. As for his 382 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: Christine question, I don't know. That's that's always a fun one. 383 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: At what point if you were to totally strip the 384 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: car apart for parts, you know, would would those parts 385 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: make other cars haunted? I don't know. You could also 386 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: apply this to a haunted house story. So if you 387 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: were to tear down the house and rebuild the house 388 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: in the same spot, is it still haunted? Often I 389 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: think movies would say yes, just maybe, like the ground 390 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: is haunted. What if you dug up all the ground 391 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: and moved to the earth away, is it still the 392 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: geographical coordinance or haunted? Yeah? I don't know. I guess 393 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: the idea is there's gotta be something that latches onto 394 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: the idea of the ghost. You know, it's there's gotta 395 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: be some something where there's a forge connection. So if 396 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: you took the car apart, like the ghost would have 397 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: to in a sense choose the thing that he wanted 398 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: to continue to haunt, because that's our a call. In 399 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: the book, it's more about like there's a dude, a 400 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: dead dude who haunts the car. And then in the 401 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: movie they kind of made the choice to make it 402 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: be more like the Cars Is Alive, which I think 403 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: I ultimately liked more. Um but uh but yeah, so 404 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: like the ghost has to choose, like what are you 405 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna be? Uh? Do you want to be the tires? 406 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: You want to be probably the steering wheel, you know, 407 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: or the or some like the engine block. I don't know. 408 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: Steering wheel gets a lot of love. Yeah, I want 409 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: to be the hood ornament. That would be good too, 410 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: you know, it's very symbolic. All right, here's another one. 411 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: Lion comes to us from Brian, Hey, Robert, and Joe. 412 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm a longtime fan of your podcasts, and after hearing 413 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: Rob mentioned that he watched Black Sabbath on AMC Plus, 414 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: I signed up for a trial, which led me to 415 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: then watching House by the Cemetery. I was obviously pretty 416 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: excited that you chose it for your next episode of 417 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: Weird House Cinema. While you both did a great job 418 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: of describing the surreal weirdness of that movie, I assume 419 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: he means House by the Cemetery. I believe you left 420 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: out mentioning two incidents that were so jarring to my 421 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: girlfriend and me that we had to rewind just to 422 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: confirm we hadn't misunderstood them. The first was that, despite 423 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: Norman and his family having had no previous relationship to 424 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: the titular house, there was a quite large photo of 425 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: that very house in their apartment in Manhattan. It's the 426 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: one Bob is looking at while his mother packs in 427 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: the beginning. It is rare for a family to have 428 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: a twelve by twelve photo of a house they've never 429 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: seen before hanging in their living and then subsequently move 430 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: into the house and never wants address it. Yeah, and 431 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: also that that photo has Bob explicitly tells his mother 432 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: that the photo was talking to him, and she seems 433 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: interested in this fact. Yeah, there's there's absolutely no way 434 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: to answer this question in a way that makes sense, 435 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: Like like no matter like what sort of mental hoops 436 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: you jumped through to to try and make it work, 437 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: It just gets it just gets more confused, but Brian continues. 438 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: The second was when the realtor says to Norman, as 439 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: they are arranging to rent the house, quote, of course 440 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: you've been there before, haven't you. Dr Boyle. Norman gets 441 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: a guilty look on his face while Lucy gives him 442 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: a suspicious eye. He halfheartedly denies the allegation and moves on. 443 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: We took the meaning of this to be that doctor 444 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: Boyle had had sexual trysts in the home like his 445 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: former colleague, and the realtor was accidentally exposing this in 446 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: front of his wife. We were laughing pretty hard, because 447 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 1: what sort of realtors says, I, if you've had an 448 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: affair in this home, No to prospective client who knows 449 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: it's never addressed again. I just thought you might enjoy 450 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: knowing that the movie made even less sense than you 451 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: had already believed. Wow, I did not even notice that 452 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: second one. Um, I remember the second one. I didn't 453 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: even think about the idea of it being like an 454 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: affair situation. I was just confused by it, like because 455 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: they're like, you've been there before, right, you came with 456 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: your your daughter? Because this was another thing. He said, 457 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: you came here with your daughter, write and he's like, no, 458 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: I have a son. So I was. I was thinking 459 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: it had something to do with the ghosts and the 460 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: idea that like, not only are they like another family 461 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: to come to the house where they're kind of like 462 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: an echo of the family that had been there previously, 463 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Like the house attracts a certain type. You've always been 464 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: the caretaker here. Yeah, that kind of that sort of thing. 465 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: I guess it kind and that may indeed be the 466 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: true origin is like looking to sort of, um, you know, 467 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: inspiration for from other films that that FULTI might have 468 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: been looking at. But I guess I'll stand by what 469 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: I said earlier. If there's something that doesn't make sense 470 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: in a Fulgi movie, um, very little is going to 471 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: be revealed by trying. You can't make it makes sense. 472 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: The nonsense is baked into the DNA of the thing. 473 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: I think another way to put that is a lot 474 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: of times I don't even get the feeling that Folgi 475 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: is trying to make it makes sense and failing. He's 476 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: just not even trying, right, Yeah, and so it's not Yeah. 477 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: So sometimes because in other movies you can sort of 478 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: you can go through that mental exercise and you can 479 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: I can make it makes sense because the the creator 480 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: was trying to make something makes sense. Um, But but 481 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily the case with Folgi. Oh and we have 482 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: another little bit from Brian has a ps attached, Uh, 483 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: quote an ad for J and B Scotch on an 484 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: on a New York City bus in the beginning of 485 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: the movie reminded me of what a staple it is 486 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: in Jallow films. I feel like y'all could run up 487 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: a pretty high acount of all the J and B 488 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: bottles or ads you see in weird how Cinema movies. 489 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: Just a thought, uh and then uh. He includes a 490 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: link that is J and B in the movies dot 491 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: Com and says loving the episodes, Thanks, Brian. Have have 492 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: we not talked about this on the show before? I 493 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: know that this is something I've talked about a lot, 494 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: but maybe not on Mike. So J and B is 495 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: in every Italian horror movie. There's almost always a bottle 496 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: that shows up somewhere. Rachel and I point these out 497 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: to each other every time when we watch a Jallow movie, 498 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: or just any Italian horror movie. I can scarcely remember 499 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: having watched one where a J and B bottle doesn't appear. 500 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: At some point. I this might have been off my 501 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: but I remember this popping up with Return of the 502 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: Blind Dead, because there's the scene where they're all gonna 503 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: the new fireworks man is in town. They're gonna all 504 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: have a drink, and I was thinking, Oh, I'm kind 505 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: of interested in where are they going to drink? Is 506 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: it's something you know, um, something kind of Spanish or something. Uh, 507 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: you know, it's going to be really fitting of the 508 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: location or where it's supposed to take place, a nice 509 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: spin sherry or something. Yeah, but it wasn't. It was 510 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: J and B. Right, I seem to recall it. Well, No, 511 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: actually I wonder if that might have come up because 512 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: I was expecting it to be J and B and 513 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: then it wasn't. Okay, but Brian, in any case, you 514 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: are absolutely correct. There almost every Italian horror movie I've 515 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: ever seen has J and B in it. I don't 516 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why that is. I don't know if 517 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: they had like a their National Film Board had a 518 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: had a like ad relationship or something, or maybe it 519 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: was just a perfectly spontaneous replication phenomenon. I really don't know, 520 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about it. I think Return of 521 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: the Living Dead just had some sort of I think 522 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: maybe it's British whiskey of some sort. Okay, Return of 523 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: the Blind, Yeah, return Return of the Blind Dad. So 524 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: it was it was not Spanish, it was. It was 525 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: something less exciting. I mean, nothing against J and B. 526 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, no thoughts one way or another. Really, But 527 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: if somebody out there is like an Italian film historian 528 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: who wants to tell us why J and B is 529 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: an all these movies, I would I would love to know. 530 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: But that that website is pretty amusing because it is 531 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: just movie after movie and like you can see there 532 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: it is there's J m B in the background. All right, 533 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: there's a bottle on the table. Yep, yep, they're pouring 534 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: some JMB in that scene. Oh man. One of the 535 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: top entries on the blog right now is beyond the Door. 536 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: That's one that I know has come up on Weird 537 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: House Cinema before. That's the Italian Exorcist rip off where 538 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: they're discussing baby names and and a lady quite hilariously goes, 539 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: what about Steve? No knock on people named Steve? But 540 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: I don't know it's funny. All right, Well, we're gonna 541 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: go ahead and close the mail bag for today, but hey, 542 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: certainly keep the the Halloween related listener mails coming in. 543 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: We'll continue to address those obviously, and uh yeah, so 544 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: so just right in with thoughts on past episodes, current episodes, 545 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: potential future episodes, UM of Stuff to Blow Your Mind, 546 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: the core episodes of our our Friday Weird half Cinema episodes, 547 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: UM you know anything related to the artifacts on Wednesday, 548 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: or just you know other listener mails that we read 549 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: on Monday's Huge Things. 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