1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Do you know another parent or expecting parent. Are you 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: wondering what can I give them as a gift. Don't 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: give them another onesie. Don't give them a plastic toy 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: or god forbid, a toy gun that's just going to 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: end up in the garage. Give them something that matters, 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: and what matters the most is protecting their child. What 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: do you love most in the world, your children? What 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: will you do to protect them anything. I sat down 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: with these smartest people I know in the world on 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: matters of child's safety, finding missing children, fighting back against predators, 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: and what I learned is so important, powerful and information 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: so critical. I want you to have it. I want 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: them to have it. Go to crimestops here dot com 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: for a five part series with action information that you 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: can use to change your life and protect your child. 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Give that as a gift, not another onesie. Find out 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: how to protect child when you're out of the mall 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: or the store, or the grocery, in the parking lot 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: at home. Find out about protection regarding babysitters, in daycare, 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: even online. I'd rather have that any day of the 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: week than a plastic toy or God forbid, a toy gun. 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Join Justice, Nation go to Crime Stops here dot com 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, but first the special Crime 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: Online dot Com End of the Year Review. Twenty eighteen 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: was a year of scientific advances that help crime fighters 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: catch bad guys, new strategies for using DNA, better tracking 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: of cell phone signals, and improved use of digital evidence. 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: Was also year of unexplainable crimes husbands, fathers, stepparents, killing 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: spouses and their children. The top six crime stories of 30 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen is covered by Nancy Grace. Number six the 31 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: disappearance of Jamie Class, thirty year old girl who vanished 32 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: as both parents are shot dead at their Wisconsin home 33 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: in October. Baron County, Wisconsin. Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald says a 34 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: mysterious nine one one call made from a cell phone 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: inside the home is a major clue in the case. 36 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: The nine O one call was given that night from 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: the residence on a cell phone, but no contact was 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: made with somebody that was on the other line. And 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: that's what's unusual about that nine O one call. There 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: was no one communicating with our disbet. Jamie is still 41 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: missing and the murders of her parents unsolved. The tip 42 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: line for anyone with information on Jamie's whereabouts is one 43 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: eight five five seven, four four three eight seven nine. 44 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: See details at crime online dot com. Crime story number 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: five for twenty eighteen the kidnapping and murder of Iowa 46 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: college student Molly Tibbots. The twenty year old woman vanished 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: on July eighteenth, triggering a major search and investigation that 48 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: ended nearly five weeks later with the arrest of Christian Vera, 49 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: who led police to where he dumped her body. Iowa 50 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: Division of Criminal Investigation Special Agent Rick Ron she was 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: found in a cornfield and there were cornstalks placed over 52 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: the top of her Ravero was charged with snatching Molly 53 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: as she jogged on a Brooklyn, Iowa street, then killing 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: her and dumping her body in a cornfield. An autopsy 55 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: concluded she died from multiple sharp force injuries. Crime story 56 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: number four the arrest of a suspect in the Golden 57 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: State killer cases. Intended to help trace genealogy. California investigators 58 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: identified seventy two year old Joseph James DeAngelo as the 59 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: men believed to have murdered at least thirteen people and 60 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: committed more than fifty rapes from nineteen seventy four through 61 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six. Jane Carson Sandler was the fifth victim 62 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: of what was then known as Sacramento's East Area rapists. 63 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: She joined Nancy Grace for a crime stories podcast at 64 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: Crime Con just days after DeAngelo's arrest. My husband, Roger 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: and I we cried and we sobbed, and we laughed, 66 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: and we jumped up and down and just could not 67 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: could not believe it. And I've said before, I think 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: we could have woken up the hotel. We were just 69 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: so joyous. Crime Story number three for twenty eighteen the 70 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: disappearance and murder of Mom Kelsey Bareth, a flight instructor 71 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: who vanished from Woodland Park, Colorado, on Thanksgiving Day, but 72 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: it was two weeks before her mother reported or missing. 73 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: A major clue came as investigators realized her cell phone 74 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: pinged eight hundred miles away in Twin Falls, Idaho District 75 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Attorney Dan May, Yes, her phone did end up in Idaho, 76 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: and we're still working to recover that phone. And that's 77 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: about all I can comment. But that phone information was accurate. 78 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Her phone did end up in Idaho, and we were 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: working to try to recover that fiance, Patrick Frazy, was 80 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: arrested on a first degree murder charge just before Christmas. 81 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: Detectives concluded that he killed Bareth in her home, but 82 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: where he hit her body remained a mystery. The number 83 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: two crime story of twenty eighteen was the disappearance and 84 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: death of little Lucas Hernandez, a five year old who 85 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: vanished from his Wichita, Kansas home in February while under 86 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: the care of stepmom Emily Glass. It was North Carolina 87 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: private investigator David Marshburne who coaxed Glass into leading him 88 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: to where she dumped Lucas's body under a rural bridge, 89 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: and he recorded Glass as she began to confess to 90 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: harming her stepson. Emily Glass took her own life on 91 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: June sixth in the same home where Lucas is believed 92 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: to have died. And The top crime story of twenty 93 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: eighteen was the disappearance and murder of pregnant Colorado mom 94 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: Shenan Watts and her two young daughters. It began in 95 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: August when the mother and kids vanished from their Denver 96 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: area home. Husband and father, Chris Watt, spoke to a 97 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: Denver television reporter in the first days, Shenan Bella, Celeste. 98 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: If you're out there, just come back, like if somebody 99 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: has heard, please bring her back. I need to see everybody. 100 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: I need to see everybody again. This house is not 101 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: complete without anybody here. But it didn't take long for 102 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: detectives to realize there was something wrong with Chris watts story. 103 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: Security video from a neighbor showed the husband loading what 104 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: turned out to be his family's remains into his truck. 105 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: A mistress came forward to police. Finally, a confession from 106 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: Chris Watts, who led police to where he stuffed his 107 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: daughter's bell and Celeste in oil tanks and where he 108 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: buried his wife in a shallow grave. Watts took a 109 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: pleae deal to avoid a death penalty trial, and he 110 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: was sentenced to serve the rest of his life in 111 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: prison and transferred to Wisconsin for his own protection. Crime 112 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy. In two thousand and seven, at the 113 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: age of seventy five, Casey Cason was diagnosed with a 114 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 1: Parkinson's like disease called Louis body dementia. It closed them down. 115 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: They can either get rigid or shaking. It may sometimes 116 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: affect their speech. In two thousand and nine, he gave 117 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: up his beloved radio show and signed off for the 118 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: last time. Now one more time, keep your feedom the 119 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: ground and keep reaching for the stars. Here Casey would 120 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: have no financial worries with an estate valued between eighty 121 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: and one hundred million dollars. But around that time, Genie 122 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: claims his children became focused on one thing. It was 123 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: all about the money. We became the bank of CASEM, 124 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: the personal ATM machine. You're hearing the widow of legendary 125 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: Casey Cason. That's a gene case m accusing his chill 126 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: and focusing on nothing but money. Being interviewed by CBS 127 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: Peter van Zand, Well, the plot thickens listen. Around twenty twelve, 128 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: According to Genie, Casey was fed up and cut them 129 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: off financially. Gennie says the kids were furious, but instead 130 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: of getting mad, Genie claims Carrie and the others did 131 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: something almost unimaginable. I believe that Carrie Kayson did kill 132 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: my husband, that it was a long term, premeditated plan, 133 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: and he's gone. It's just light after light after life 134 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: without any evidence. You are hearing reporter Peter van Zand 135 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: with CBS interviewing Casey Kayson's widow, I Meancy Grace, this 136 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. What 137 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: happened to legendary star Casey Kayson? Right now? In a 138 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: bizarre twist, his widow claims his three children from his 139 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: first marriage, not her bio children, conspired to murder him 140 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: for his money, but they say she is the one 141 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: who killed the radio star. With me right now, Alan 142 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: joining me from La Alan, just give me a bear bones. 143 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: What happened this legend of radio It was diagnosed with 144 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: Louie body disease, which is a parkinson like disease that 145 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: is degenerative. He deteriorated over the next seven years, and 146 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: there was some serious family feuding going on between the 147 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: three children from his first marriage and his then wife, 148 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: his widow now Jean Casum he'd been married to for 149 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: about thirty years before his death, and each say it 150 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: is all about the money. Well they're both saying that, 151 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: but right now, the question is what happened Casey Cason 152 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: listened that move that night was to get him out 153 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: of the drama and to keep him safe and secure. 154 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: We had had enough. Genie, Casey's wife of thirty four years, 155 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: says she was convinced her husband's life was in danger. 156 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: What were you thinking, Genie, I was thinking, and it 157 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: was time to protect my husband. You're hearing her explaining 158 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: why she took Casey out of a Santa Monica care 159 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: facility and took him on a quote road trip in May. 160 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: He's ailing, He's suffering from this syndrome. She thought she 161 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: had to protect him, so, she says by taking him 162 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: out of a care facility the legendary DJ Casey. Case's 163 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: widow claims his three grown children conspired to kill him 164 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: for the one hundred million dollar estate, but they blame 165 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: her Gene Casum, his second wife. She says, the children 166 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: tricked their father into signing overpower of attorney to them, 167 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: and they are the ones responsible for his death. But 168 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: what really happened? Joining your now, Troy Slayton, defense lawyer 169 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: out of LA high profile defense lawyer. You're very close 170 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: with the children. Have just spoken recently to Carrie. What's 171 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: your understanding of what's happening, Troy? Is that everything that 172 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Gene is saying is completely belied by the facts. Where 173 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: she claims that Carrie killed her husband by essentially pulling 174 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: the plug. What happened was hydration and nutrition was removed 175 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: by the order of or at the recommendation of three doctors, 176 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: an internist, a hospitalist, and an ethicist, and the judge 177 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles gave Carrie Caseum that those that authority 178 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: to allow the doctors to do what they thought was basta. Wait, 179 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: let me understand this. So it's the daughter who made 180 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: the decision to pull the plug? It was it was 181 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: the daughter following the orders or the recommendation of three doctors. Well, 182 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: I can tell you this, Troy Slayton. I hear what 183 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: you're saying, and you're very good friends with the children 184 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: that when it came right down to it, I did 185 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: not want the plug pulled on my father. I wanted 186 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: him to live if there was any chance. I was 187 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: having a showdown with the doctors hoping that he could live. 188 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: And I also find it very interesting joining me psycho 189 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: analyst doctor Bethany Marshall, also in LA. Why does everything 190 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: happen in LA? Don't you people have enough money and 191 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: enough luxury homes and cars and plastic surgery to be happy? 192 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: Because from what I am understanding, it's her Jane Cayson, 193 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: the wife, the second wife is the one who hires 194 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: a private investigator who concludes that Casey Kyson was the 195 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: victim of homicide. Now that's according to forty eight Hours. 196 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: She's the one that hires the PI to find out 197 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: what happened. What am I missing here, Bethany? Well, I 198 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: mean if she hired the PI, it doesn't imply that 199 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: she would be guilty, you know, Nancy, I hear this 200 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: from a mental health perspective. In the seventies and the eighties, 201 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: we had this term blended families that if the dad remarried, 202 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: then the stepmother and the step childre Bethany, you know, 203 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: you're much too glamorous to make your own breakfast, but 204 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: I make John David as smoothie. And when you blend 205 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: things sometimes there's big chunks in it that just don't 206 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: go down very well. Right, So we talk about a 207 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: blended family, I think this one had a few chunks 208 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: in it that don't go down very well. That's why 209 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: I say the idea of the blended family was a myth. 210 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of research regarding blended families, and what's 211 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: happening in the Casey Kaysum family happens in every other family. Initially, 212 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: the stepchildren idealize their stepmother, That stepmother is like the bestie, 213 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: and then within a few years they begin to hate 214 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: the stepmother. She's not my mom, it's your fault. My 215 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: dad divorced. You're not really his wife. And there's a 216 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: very telling statement. I think it's Kerry kasum Or. One 217 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: of the children said, why did Jean get the mansion 218 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: when I work for a living? So somehow these kids 219 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: feel that the money that was given to the wife 220 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: of thirty four years should be going to them, And 221 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: I think that's what this is all about, if they 222 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: don't think that she's his real wife. But she might 223 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: be crazy, she may have made very poor medical decisions. 224 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Maybe she did against doctor's advice, load him in the 225 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: back of an suv in a paranoid state, and take 226 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: him to a private home to nurse him for the 227 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: remainder of his months or years. But she was still 228 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: his wife, and I think that's where the confusion lies 229 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: in all of this. Can you tell me something, Bethany? 230 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany joining me along with Troy Sleyton, Joseph Scott Morgan, 231 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, and Alan Deacon of course, joining us shortly 232 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: will be Jane Cason Bethany when my dad was on 233 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: his deathbed, and it pains me to even say those 234 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: words in the same sense, I just wasn't thinking straight. 235 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: But every night I would make him a cup of 236 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: decap and a certain way, and I would give him 237 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: a dessert after supper. Now he was borderline diebag and 238 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: had heart issues, so I'd have to make a special dessert, okay. 239 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: And I remember this, and I don't know what was 240 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: in my head, but as he was lying there and 241 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: everybody else was saying you can go now, it's okay, 242 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: let go, I was literally in his ear saying, come home, Daddy. 243 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: I'll make a cup of decap, come home, don't go, 244 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: do not go, don't leave me. Well, so I'm just 245 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: projecting what may have been going through her mind. I mean, 246 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: that makes no sense at all, like loading him up 247 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: in the back of the station wagon to take him. 248 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't have to make 249 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: sense so well, well, to me, it makes sense if 250 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: you think that the step children are nipping at the 251 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: parents heels wanting the money. I'm trying to visit the dada, 252 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: and I understand why they would want to visit the dad. 253 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm just this from a research perspective on what I 254 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: know happens in all families. Most families when a stepmother 255 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: is introduced, that the children develop great animosity for the 256 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: step parent, and then the stepparent sometimes gets very paranoid 257 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: and very crazy in an attempt to protect the marriage. 258 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: This happens in case after case after case. I've seen 259 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: it in my practice. There's research that backs this up. 260 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: So I think this is the underlying scheme that could 261 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: account for all the craziness as well as eighty two 262 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, is that the step kids did not 263 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: feel that their stepmother was rendering good care. Now, should 264 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: she have him up in the back of an suv, 265 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely not, and she did at ama against medical advice. 266 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: But the fact that the children wanted to pull the plug, 267 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: I think is very suspicious because unless a patient has 268 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: cancer and is an extraordinary pain or is on life support, 269 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: usually family members do not want to pull the plug. 270 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: They want to sit by the side of their loved 271 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: one and let them slowly drift away, and that's how 272 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: it goes. So the pull that wasn't the case here. 273 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: The doctors three doctors said that having him hooked up 274 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: to hydration and nutrition, which sounds like, you know, a 275 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: basic life support that you would give anyone. You don't 276 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: want anyone to starve or die of dehydration. That those 277 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: were actually killing him because his organs were shutting down 278 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: and his G tube was backing up, That those things 279 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: were actually causing him more pain than they were doing good. 280 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: And a judge made a distinct finding that Gene Cason 281 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: was not acting in his best interests. Do you believe 282 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: that your husband, Casey Cason, feared his children, Yes, and 283 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: feared that they could do what what they did, which 284 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: was kill him. That's ridiculous. That's that's ridiculous. There's no 285 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: more evil in this world than Gene Thompson Cason. You 286 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: were hearing just a tiny taste of whats been going 287 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: on regarding the death of DJ's superstar Casey Kayson, who 288 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: can't remember America's Top forty and the voice of Shaggy 289 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: for Pete's sake, and Scooby Doo. I remember when I 290 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: was doing Dancing with the Stars and it was the 291 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: first time I was away from the children for extended 292 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: periods of time, and my husband allowed my son to 293 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: develop a very unhealthy obsession with Scooby Doo. So we 294 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: watched it night and day. We'd order the DVDs, would 295 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: scour the aisles of Target for more Scooby Doo. That 296 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: voice will go down in history. We're talking about not 297 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: just his stellar career, but the death of Casey kaysm 298 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: Right now, what we understand is that Casey Kayson's widow, 299 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: claiming his three adult children from his first marriage, conspired 300 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: to kill Casey for his money. But they say she 301 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: quote air quote murdered the radio legend. What is the answer? 302 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: We just left off in a feud between Bethany Marshall, 303 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst in LA, and Troy s Layton, 304 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: high profile defense attorney in LA who is very dear 305 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: friends with Kyson's children. Shouldn't it be a simple matter 306 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: to Joseph Scott Morgan, death investigator, professor forensics, Jacksonville State University, 307 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon to figure 308 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: out why he died. What do you know about the 309 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: disease he had, Joe Scott, Yeah, Louis body dementia is 310 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: in kind of the same class as Parkinson's but it 311 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: has a different feel for it. And many times people 312 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: are initially misdiagnosed with Parkinson's and which you know, many 313 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: of us that have people with Parkinson's and our families, 314 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: so we've knowed tremors and the unsteady gait and this 315 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: sort of thing. But with the Louis body dementia, over 316 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: a period of time, you begin to see that people 317 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: will present with hallucinations, they're disoriented, and it ends with 318 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: them completely in a contracted state where they're not able 319 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: to even take care of themselves. They're basicut way minute 320 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: when you say a contracted state, Okay, does that mean 321 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: they physically die, well, but from the disease or they 322 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: mentally disintegrate. Yeah, they disintegrate mentally, but also as a 323 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: result of that, their physical faculties failed them. They can't 324 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: feed themselves. They become very rigid, and many times they'll 325 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: begin to hallucinate and you know, they'll see things that 326 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: aren't you know, that aren't part of reality, and they're 327 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: muted as well. They they lose the ability to actually speak. 328 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: So you have a person, an adult person who is 329 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: in a very infantile state at this point. They're very 330 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: very vulnerable now. This is what we know. Leading up 331 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: to Casey Caysum's of death, there was another battle brewing. 332 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: The eldest daughter of eighty one year old Casey Caysum 333 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: is claiming that her stepmother, Gene Casum, is banning her 334 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: and her siblings, her uncle, and Casey's closest friends from 335 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: seeing him. Kerry Casum tell CNN that she used to 336 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: visit her dad once a week until about three months ago, 337 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: when she was suddenly no longer allowed visitation. There have 338 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: been some accusations that Casey's children want access to him 339 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: because they're after his estate, and that's something Carrie strongly denies. 340 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: Here's what she told CNN about that. My dad told 341 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: us a long time ago we were not in the will, 342 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: and we're okay with that. We've known that for years. 343 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't want any of his money. My father taught 344 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: us to stand on our own two feet, and I'm 345 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: proud of that. It's not about the money. We love 346 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: our father and he's been ripped from us. You are 347 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: hearing my friend aj Hammer reporting regarding what was going 348 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: on before Casey passed away. To Kathleen Murphy, we need 349 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: you now, Kathleen. Family lawyer joining us. It sounds like 350 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the children are battling to have visitation with their father. 351 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: That sounds exactly like that to me too, Nancy. And 352 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: it appears to me that they were resigned to not 353 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: getting the money. They loved their dad. We love our dad, 354 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: and I don't see any motives on the part of 355 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: the children, any motives except for the true love of 356 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: their faulting. Well, it's a little confusing to me because 357 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: what we're hearing in Troyce Laton. I want you to 358 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: listen to this. You're the defense lawyer. You're signing with 359 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: the children. I'm not signing with anybody, by the way, 360 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: because I don't know the answer yet. But the children, 361 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: they say, we're fine about being written out of the wheel. 362 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: But listen to this. Gene claims that Casey has no 363 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: memory of ever signing that document. Watch the tape, put 364 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: the address but UPS store. You'll see my dad knew 365 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: what he was doing, knew what he was signing. Now, 366 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: a state planning is normally done in a lawyer's office. 367 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: You're at a ups store. He was terrified the Gene 368 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: would find out. Let me give you Jean's interpretation of 369 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: what she told me and this is you yep, and 370 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: this is your father. Yes. Now there's a circle here 371 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: because he supposedly had had a medical procedure and had 372 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: sutures in his head. Is that true to my knowledge? 373 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: That is falsified information you're hearing right there. That's CBS 374 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: reporter Peter van Zank questioning the daughter Kerrie Cason, about 375 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: the unusual circumstances about how sheen or siblings got their 376 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: dad to sign a trust document at a Hollywood UPS store, 377 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, United Parcel Services. So why is such an 378 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: important document being signed by him at the UPS store 379 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: at the counter, a very serious legal document with a 380 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: guy with one hundred million dollars fortune? What's happening? And 381 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: then the other allegations that he actually had stitches in 382 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: his head and was being presented with his document by 383 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 1: his daughter to sign. What if anything doesn't mean? Now? 384 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: The daughter says, you knew exactly what he was doing. 385 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: Not so, says his widow of thirty four years, Jeane Case. 386 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: And right now Gene Cason is joining us live, miss 387 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: caseon thank you for being with us, Hello, Nancy, thank 388 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: you for having me, miss Case. Over all the years 389 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: I've watched you and Casey Cays on red carpets and 390 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: Hollywood events, and he's always dressed in a black tuxedo 391 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: and you're always just in this glamorous dress with the 392 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: beautiful hair. I'm looking at you right now with your 393 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: hair all done up in a red glittery dress, and 394 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: you both have beautiful smiles, and it just seems like, yeah, 395 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: had the world by the tail. What happened, Jean, Well, 396 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: like you said, we were married for thirty four years, 397 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: and we had a beautiful life, and we were inseparable, 398 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: and we worked very hard, and when we weren't working, 399 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: we worked even harder for charitable events. Jean, I don't 400 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: understand how everything went sideways. I know that Casey Kayson, 401 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: who I'm just a huge fan. I was just telling 402 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: the others a story of I know he's gone from 403 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: your world, but in our world, my children watch Scooby 404 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: Doo incessantly, and of course the top forty is still 405 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: in syndication right now. He is living on forever. But yeah, 406 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't understand. I know he was ill, but I 407 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: don't understand what's happening now. I know that he left 408 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: you his estate and at that time, the grown children said, Hey, 409 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: we're fine with that. We've got our own money. But then, 410 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: how did this legal document end up getting signed an 411 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: executorship I believe at a ups store and it's called 412 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: on video. Well, ironically, this is a real Scooby Doo mystery, 413 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: isn't it? Nancy, Hi, Nancy Grace here? Have you ever 414 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: Googled yourself, your neighbors, somebody at work a crush? 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What do 432 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: you believe happened, Miss Cason? Well, I think everybody needs 433 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: to go back to the year twenty thirteen when they 434 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: filed the first corrupt guardianship attempt of my husband. In 435 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: the court Field documents. The first stipulation was to consent, 436 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: refusal of consent, or withdrawal of consent to any care, treatment, service, 437 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: or procedure to maintain, diagnose, or treat any physical or 438 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: mental condition of the proposed conservative, including without limitation, the 439 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: withholding or withdrawal of life sustaining procedures in a terminal condition. 440 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: I think that shows the premeditation, and I think that's 441 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: why they took him down on Hollywood Boulevards in a 442 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: ups or to basically sign his life away. He was alone, 443 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: he had no legal counsel. It was there was undue influence. 444 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: He had stitches in his head, he had been recuperating 445 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: from surgery, He was on various medications and no glasses, 446 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, hearing you describe that. So what he was signing, 447 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: I guess, Kathleen Murphy with me family lawyer as an 448 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: executorship of sorts, that they the children would make the 449 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: decision as to whether he would remain on life support. Kathleen, 450 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: that's correct. Fancy. The children's behaviors and actions as described 451 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: by miss Caseum are concerning Jane Cason with me and 452 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: Choice Light, and I'm going to give you a chance 453 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: to defend the children with whom your friends. Jane. I'm 454 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: just listening to what you're saying, and it was ultimately 455 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: the children that decided to take him off life support. 456 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: And you're saying that, in your mind, premeditation for exactly 457 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: that began when they got him to sign over this 458 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: document at a UPS store. Is that right? Well, Matthew, 459 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: the document was signed on Veterans Day and my husband 460 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: was a VET in two thousand and seven and held 461 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: in secrecy until it was actively concealed until twenty thirteen, 462 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: and that's when they filed and that document allowed them 463 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: to make the life support decision. Is that right? No? 464 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't really like the words life support because at 465 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: that time he was very much alive, and life support 466 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: to me means that there's artificial machines allowing one to live, 467 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: and that was not the case. Ah. You know what, 468 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: that is a very important distinction. You're absolutely right. Let 469 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: me ask you this, when you took him, there's a 470 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: lot of controversy is swirling around your decision to pack 471 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: him up and taking him out of that care facility 472 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. Can you explain your reasoning? Well, first 473 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: of all, Nancy, let me tell you how that first 474 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: corrupt attempt to end it. It was denied for no 475 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: good cause, and it was ultimately denied with prejudice and 476 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: put to an end. Case closed on January fourteen, twenties old. 477 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: On just a moment, Jane royce lytton defense lawyer, you're 478 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: defending the children today. The judge actually ruled against them. 479 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: The judge when Gene Casum attempted to go into court 480 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 1: to have artificial hydration and nutrition reinstated onto Casey Caseum, 481 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: and she went in ex parte, that means, on her own, 482 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: into court and convinced the judge to order the hospital 483 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: to reinstate those things. Now I'm sorry, I must interrupt 484 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: ex parte does not mean on your own. I was 485 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: represented with legal counsel. And I hate to correct you, 486 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: but I hate to correct you, but I really want 487 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: the facts to come out because there has been such 488 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: a false narrative put out there about me and about 489 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: my daughter Liberty, and about Casey. So I really, I 490 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: really feel strongly in having to stop you when you're 491 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: going down the wrong track. I think what he meant was, Um, 492 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: you're saying you went with your lawyers and your reps. 493 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: He means the other side, the children weren't there. X 494 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: party means just one side goes before the judge Troy Slayton. 495 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: When you were giving the details, you left out the 496 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: little fact that the judge it previously ruled against the children. 497 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: You know. To Jane Caseum, why do you think the children? 498 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: You're accusing the children basically murdering their dad? I want 499 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: to find out why you think they would have, what 500 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: their possible motivation was, and why that day you felt 501 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: you had to remove him from that care facility, you know, Nancy, 502 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: after it was denied with prejudice for no good cause 503 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: in case Clothes. Four months later they filed another fraudulent 504 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: guardianship petition, and when you know that somebody is trying 505 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 1: to kill your husband, you will do everything in the 506 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: world to try to protect him. Jasey and I knew, 507 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: and we spoke many times after the first attempted guardianship 508 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: of what their motives were. Back to that evening that 509 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: he left the care facility. What was your thinking, Jane, 510 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: Just to seek peace, just so I could care for him. 511 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: Just seeking peace, just so I could care for him 512 00:32:53,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: peacefully without all the disruptions, without the onslaught of the media, 513 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: without being stalked, without being followed, without being harassed. You 514 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: were married to Casey Kayson for I know, thirty four years, 515 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: and you you courted before that. When did you first 516 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: realize the children? His children did not like you. I 517 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: don't know why. I've always contributed to their lifestyle and 518 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: their livelihood. What do you mean by that you contributed 519 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: to their lifestyle and their livelihood? Well, where do you 520 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: think they got their money from? From their dad? Definitely 521 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: from you and their dad. Now it's my understanding that 522 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: they worked. Is that right? Choice? Lytton? Did the children 523 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: have their own jobs? That's absolutely true, Nancy. They are 524 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: all independently successful. Julie who is well. Carrie, who's his 525 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: eldest daughter, has been in broadcasting, has been a model 526 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: for over twenty years. Julie is a physician's assistant and 527 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: her husband is a well renowned cardiologist at UCLA. And 528 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: one important thing that I just need to make sure 529 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: that everyone understands is that Gene is claiming that this 530 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: so called quote homicidal guardianship scam started in two thousand 531 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: and seven when Casey signed that power of attorney or 532 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: that durable power of attorney for healthcare. But the court 533 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: didn't rely on that two thousand and seven power of attorney. 534 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: It relied on the two eleven Advanced Healthcare Directive that 535 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: Gene had Casey signed when he wasn't competent to do so, 536 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: according to his good friends. And in that two eleven 537 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: healthcare Directive that Gene had him sign, it said that 538 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: if extension of his life would result in a mere 539 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: biological existence, and he wouldn't, it was essentially terminal. That 540 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: he didn't want any artificial life sustaining procedures, including nutrition 541 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: and hydration. That's from the terrible power of attorney that 542 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: Jeane had him signed. I want to go to Bethany 543 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: Marshall psychoanalyst bethany way In, I mean this sounds like such, 544 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: it's so much legal maneuvering. But when it boils down 545 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: to it, when you hear Jeane talking about her husband, 546 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean I can tell she loved him. She loves him. Yes, 547 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: I think that Casey Cayson's body and health has become 548 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: the battleground for a power struggle between the stepmother and 549 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: the stepchildren. I think that's what's really happening. I think 550 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: all this health stuff and all this wrongful death long 551 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: lawsuit is a red herring, meaning it's an excuse. The 552 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: fact is she was his wife for thirty four years. 553 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: He loved her, he chose her. That's what we have 554 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: to remember. No matter what the children think, their father 555 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: chose Jane to be his wife, and therefore their agreements 556 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: and their love and their relationships supersede what's happening with 557 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: the children. The children have their own lives, their own spouses, 558 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: their own careers. And when one of the children said, 559 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: we don't care about the money, I don't believe that, 560 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: because we all care about money. You care about money. 561 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: I care about money. Yes, it is salt in the 562 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: wound when a parent dies and leaves everything to one 563 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: person and doesn't distribute amongst the children and the grandchildren. 564 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: I've seen this in so many cases in my practice. 565 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: His decision, not the children. Casey Kasim's family feud is ongoing. 566 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: His wife with me right now, Jeane Casim and his 567 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: adult children bile wrongful death suits against each other in 568 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: a battle for his fortune. To Jane Casim, was his 569 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: will honored? Where did the bulk of his estate go 570 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: upon his death? Well, remember Nancy, They kept saying that 571 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't about the money, but now they're fighting about 572 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: all the money. So we're in court. You are saying 573 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: that Casey's children carried Julian Michael, we're all after his 574 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: money and that eventually your husband cut them off financially. 575 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: Is that correct, Gene Cason? That is correct? What led 576 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: him to do that? Well, they say that they're all 577 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: financially stable, but we were issuing checks up until the 578 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: year twenty twelve. I have hundreds and hundreds of checks 579 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: that total almost three million dollars. Okay, you know, Troy 580 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: s Layton, defense lawyer, friends with the children. You say 581 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: they're all financially independent. Three million dollars that that's not independent, Troy. 582 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: If that's true, I don't know whether that's true or not, 583 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: but I know that by twenty eleven, his dear friend, 584 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 1: who was thirty years in broadcasting Les Martins and also 585 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: in attorney, spoke to Casey regularly on the phone, and 586 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: by twenty eleven knew that Casey was no longer able 587 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: to recall common stories and adventures that they had had 588 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: and it's all going to come out in court. Well, 589 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: this is what I understand, Troy. If it's not about 590 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: the money, why are the children filing a wrongful death 591 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: suit which is for money because they believe that their 592 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: stepmother hastened and caused the death of their father. They're seeking, 593 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: They're seeking, they're seeking justice to Gene Cayson. This is 594 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: Casey's widow. What was your reaction when you found out 595 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: his children had filed a wrongful death suit against you? 596 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 1: I was surprised because they were the ones that took 597 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: him to the hospital for a supposed independent medical evaluation. 598 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: It was a ruse, of course, and they then kept 599 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: him for an unauthorized overnight observation and then they began 600 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: to chemically restrain him and withdraw all of his hydration, nutrition, 601 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: and proactive medical care. And on a Friday evening, June sixth, 602 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: with all courts closed, I received a call to come 603 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: to the hospital, where I was told, along with our 604 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: daughter Liberty, that they had already begun the process, and 605 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: we didn't know what that meant. We thought it was 606 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: a new kind of treatment until they sat us down 607 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: and explained to us what was going to happen. We 608 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: were allowed only five minutes each to see him. We 609 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: went into the hospital room and Nancy, I don't know 610 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: if you experienced this with your husband or not, but 611 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: you could be across a crowded room and you could 612 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: know by the look on your spouse's face if they're 613 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: panicked or in trouble or what they're trying to say. 614 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: And that was that look that I got. So I 615 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: approached the bed and he grabbed onto Liberty and I 616 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: and the nurse had to pry his fingers off one 617 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: by one, and of course that's the moment, will you 618 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: say all the beautiful things that you're supposed to say 619 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: to somebody that you love. And then they said that 620 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: we had to leave the hospital, and so I went 621 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: to the door and I looked back at him, and 622 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: you looked so scared and so panicked that I rushed 623 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: back in and I picked him up in my arms, 624 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: and I told him that I had to go and 625 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: I would be right outside the And then they escorted 626 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: us out of the hospital, m down down to the 627 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: lobby and there was a chapel. Liberty and I and 628 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: begged to go into the chapel just so we could 629 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: sit and just us for help from thought, for people 630 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: to just come to their And then they told us 631 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: that we had to leave the chapel, and they escorted 632 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: us out to the party blood and told us that 633 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: we had to get off the property. That was the 634 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: last time we ever saw him the life again. I 635 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,479 Speaker 1: immediately got a private plane and flew down to Los 636 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: Angeles so I could confront Judge Daniel Murphy. I wanted 637 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: him to see me, and I wanted to tell him 638 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: that that was my husband of thirty four years, and 639 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: that when they picked him up for that's so cloded 640 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: abandoned medical evaluation. That that morning he was singing when 641 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: he was being shaped, and he was singing to Liberty's music, 642 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: and he was happy, and that he did not want 643 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: to go with her. He was fighting with the paramedics 644 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: and he said, please please, no, I don't want to go. 645 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: I want to see you and my wife and my daughter. 646 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: My daughter went into an acute asthma to heck and 647 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: the paramedics had to come from her. And it was 648 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: just a gaudiful scene to see Casey fight like that. 649 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: And then as they please let you go, and I 650 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: don't want to go, and he said no, no, no, 651 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to go. They took him against his 652 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: will for this so called independent medical evaluations, and then 653 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: they devised another ruse to keep him for an overnight observations. 654 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 1: The doctor cleared him on June first. On June second, 655 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: we were called his personal private physician, Donald Sharman, and 656 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: I were called and we were told he was discharged. 657 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: We went to court and the judge said that he 658 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 1: couldn't return, and they they never brought him back. They 659 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: gave him enough drugs to kill an elephant, and he 660 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: still fought. Because this man wanted to live. He never complained, 661 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: he was never in any case. His only regret is 662 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: that he just had so much left to do. Jene Cason, 663 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing your story, and we 664 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: wait as justice unfolds in a court of law. Nancy 665 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: Grace crime story signing off goodbye friends,