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Speaker 1: and I am joined by a room filled with some heroes.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Boys? Hey? Dan? No, Mark still under the weather.

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Speaker 1: Hope to get him back by Thursday's show. But uh,

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Speaker 1: we're getting closer to whole because yes, Greg has returned

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Speaker 1: the NFL media newsroom. Greg Rosenthal, Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: United States. How was your trip? I want this to

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Speaker 1: any sense. It was outstanding. Dan. I'm we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about a little later, but London could not be a

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Speaker 1: Why not. It's like you know Henry Hodson, you know

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Speaker 1: Editionally Around the NFL podcast sponsored by Mr Flames Economics

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Speaker 1: class in the Hague, the Netherlands. Very special thank you

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Speaker 1: to Mr Flame who provided us with some Danish, some coffee,

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Speaker 1: the Monday night football matchup between the Broncos and Texans.

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Speaker 1: cut him, they should have just kind of surprising in

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00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: a in a post Ray Rice world when this story

427
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: first cropped up before the season began. Uh, I first

428
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: time I heard about Oh, I said, he's gone. I mean,

429
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: it's it's not like this is one of the great

430
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: kickers of all time, which sometimes like it or not,

431
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: that affects whether these guys stick on the team. He's

432
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: Josh Brown. I mean, so you thought, oh, they'll get

433
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 1: rid of them, bring someone else, and that's not the

434
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: headache with this stuff, And instead they stuck by, which

435
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: was a curious decision then and it only got worse

436
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: and now they're dealing with the fallout such a complex issue.

437
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: Diana moscow Witch from dead Spin, who used to work

438
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: on our editor's desk, had a really good column this

439
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: week pointing out that cutting players isn't really the answer

440
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: because their girlfriends and wives rely on them financially so much,

441
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: and it can also it can often exacerbate the problem

442
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 1: at home between the couple when the husband is out

443
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: of work. So I think the NFL what people want

444
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: to see is to get ahead of the issue and

445
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: not respond to public opinion. The problem with this one

446
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: most people have in the beginning was the double standard.

447
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: Why is Josh Brown getting to pass when other people didn't? Right?

448
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: And when I'm when I'm picking on Macado, it's it's

449
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: really not his fault. It's the organization putting him in

450
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: a in a tough spot where he is basically forced

451
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: to say things in a vague way to avoid telling

452
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: lies because they is not He's not built and wired.

453
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: He's a football coach. He doesn't know how to handle

454
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: this situation. That's part of the head coaches job in

455
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: the twenty one century head coach, Yeah, no, it is.

456
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: And and there were just so many moments. I mean,

457
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: I think the UK media there is wanting to kind

458
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: of have a nice press conference, but they just don't

459
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: let the New York media basically go go after So

460
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: score one for New York over London. Huh, there you go.

461
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: I like that I like how you've taken this person.

462
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, Hey, you're in English. You know,

463
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: I love you. It's funny, Yeah, it's funny. If you

464
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: want to get Dan really mad um, just tell him

465
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: that that you're more of a New Yorker than he is,

466
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: because I am. You know, I lived there for ten years.

467
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: I tell him that, not Dan from New York. Well,

468
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: but you know, not the city I live. That aren't

469
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: real people from New York. Greg grew up in a

470
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: rich town. First of all, this has been proven from

471
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: Twitter in a white suit. This has been proven by

472
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: Twitter sources that that you're town much nicer town than

473
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: the one I grew up in. But that's beside the point.

474
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Speaker 1: Let me. Let me explain people that aren't actually from

475
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: New York and then they moved to the city and

476
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: and they slim into the city for a couple of years,

477
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: and then they could always say, oh, I lived in

478
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: New York City. But if you're actually from New York,

479
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: don't you don't have to. Obviously, you don't have to

480
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: overly identify with the city alone. I grew up in

481
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: the suburbs of New York City, so it doesn't make

482
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Speaker 1: me less of a New Yorkers to a person from

483
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: New York. New York is more than just the city.

484
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: You're from New York. You grew up around people that

485
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: My parents were born and raised in New York City.

486
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Speaker 1: I lived in New York City after I grew up

487
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: both in New York, in Manhattan and Brooklyn. And I

488
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: don't have anything to be ashamed of. So don't try

489
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: to hang that on many rows at all. Just because

490
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Speaker 1: you never took to Martha's Vineyard and you had to

491
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: go on, you got to start, you know, traveling around

492
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: the country. You're looking for a place to fit in.

493
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: I've never actually lived in Martha's Union, but okay, there

494
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Speaker 1: you go. And I grew up in the coal town. Yeah,

495
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: I love New York. You should love my love of

496
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: New York. I love New York. I have a lot

497
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: more than Boston. And I know, but this is You're

498
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: You're always like I love things more than you. I

499
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: am this thing more than you are. You know what

500
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: with the New York thing, let's you know, that's the

501
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: wrong path. It's speaking of Twitter sources, streets are talking,

502
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: and their word around the talking word around the campfire

503
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: is not a cool town. Oh, big time cold town,

504
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: Pearl River, not a coal town. From what big time

505
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: cold town? That is our major industry. Is that the

506
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: cold town from Gatsby's painting the picture. That's how we

507
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: keep the lights on him. Okay, And I didn't have

508
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: a dog, a little puppy growing up. Greg grew up

509
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: on a compound, but they had all sorts of exotic

510
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: a compounding from Africa in other places I had. I

511
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: had a bird that at the bottom of the coal

512
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: shaft we had. When that bird made a sound, that

513
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: meant that there was air in that shaft, and that

514
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: meant Dad was coming home for dinner that night. I

515
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: don't think your dad was a coal miner. Let's move on.

516
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yes, it's back. I've been waiting for

517
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: that drop for years. Don't they'll take it away from

518
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: this as if you call attention to it. Sorry, Let's

519
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: move on. Let's talk a little New York. Can I

520
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: talk about a New York team? Greg am? I allowed?

521
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: Am I have New York or enough where I think

522
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: it's something we share. I've moved past now comparing it.

523
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: We both loved New York. Okay, good, all right? Geno

524
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: Smith the Geno coaster has broken down for good in

525
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: New York. Uh A m R. I revealed a torn

526
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: a c L and you know West, just like Joe

527
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Namath had to apologize for this, I guess I should say, um,

528
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: you know, for on Sunday Night Show, I questioned Geno

529
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: Smith's level of injury, which you should never do. You

530
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: should never question the man's testicular. Ford did and I

531
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done it. It's funny because even as you

532
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: were doing it, I knew I shouldn't have been. I

533
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: listened to the show. You guys did a great job.

534
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: I thought it was really fun how you guys had

535
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: everyone come in, Clay, Boon and Shook and they all

536
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: did a great job. It was a fun listen. But

537
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: as you were doing that, you guys, even at the moment,

538
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, this could go bad. Yeah, and what

539
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: it did. Yeah, I could apologize to Genos with you

540
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: doesn't give it what I have to say. But I

541
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: will say Geno Smith did have an A c L

542
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: tear that ended the season. I think Joe Namath is

543
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: more defensible what he did than I did, because Joe listen,

544
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: Joe Namath was told when he was twenty six years old,

545
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: that by the time he was forty, he would have

546
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: the knees of a ninety year old man, and he

547
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: would tape up from ankle to hip his leg just

548
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: to get on the field. So, from Joe's perspective, a

549
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: guy that had and west as you know, the injury

550
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: suffered in Alabama, a knee injury that would end a

551
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: lot of people's career. They thought he basically had a

552
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: five year window to play. People never saw the real

553
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Joe Namath who played at Alabama, who did three sixty

554
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: dunks and was viewed as one of the most dynamic

555
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: athletes in college football history, fast as hell, you know.

556
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: And so Joe sees a guy standing on the sideline

557
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, what's he not doing on the field,

558
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: Because Joe would have been playing, Probably the old zeus

559
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: are probably has a less reason to be calling out

560
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: anybody for knee issues. Although I did uh sprained my

561
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: knee as a varsity basketball after playing through seven. I

562
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: played well, I sat out a few weeks and then

563
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: I came back. Didn't get a lot of p T.

564
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: But all right, So the Geno coaster broke down to

565
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: in a c l which did a couple of things.

566
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: It it it relieved a really awkward situation brewing with

567
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: the Jets, uh with Ryan Fitzpatrick, who who came out

568
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: after the game on Sunday and basically said, nobody believes

569
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: in me, from ownership to the front office, which, um,

570
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I can't really condone. I

571
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: was surprised to hear fits say that. It also kills,

572
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: you know, Smith, who was trying to re establish his

573
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: value a little bit heading into free agency. But now

574
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: we got Fitzpatrick under center. I would think until the

575
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: Jets fall out of playoff contention, uh, which and listen

576
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: to us, we forked the Jets. I get it. I'm

577
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: not gonna fight that, but if you look at their schedule,

578
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, doesn't take doesn't take Dan much to

579
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: get back in. I saw you on Twitter throw this

580
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: out there and someone was like, good to have you

581
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: back in or whatever. You're like, who said, I'm back in?

582
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: You're setting that tweet? Your back in? You make this

583
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: case you're in. I'm just staying there. Two and five

584
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: at Cleveland at Miami home to Rams Bye week in

585
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: an awful, watered down a f c It is not

586
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: insane to think the Jets can get to five and

587
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: five and there by week. That's all. Now. I think

588
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are a much better team than the Jets

589
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: right now, right now, maybe you're right, but doesn't mean

590
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: that they can't beat them. I look back in, I

591
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: look at those three. I'm always in. I'm just not like,

592
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna die. I'm not gonna die if they

593
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: lose next week in Cleveland, because I'm hanging around the

594
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: periphery like a perfect I'm always pert. But the Dolphins

595
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: and Rams are looking at the Jets and thinking, well,

596
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: that team is not better than us too. Yes, it's

597
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: not crazy to imagine that winning, but you gotta win, Yes,

598
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: And that would be a four game winning streak for

599
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: a game that for a team that is flawed deeply.

600
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: They got lucky little throne of throne of these in

601
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: New York that you might get to face Kevin Hogan

602
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: this week, because I probably would have thought that the

603
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: Browns might finally get off the Schneida if they had

604
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: old a lot of people Cody Kessler sling in the rock. Gosh,

605
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: McCown is maybe in the picture though. This week, both

606
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: Kesler and McCown have a chance, but it sounds like

607
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: it's Kevin Hogan anyway. And then Todd Bowles and we'll

608
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: move on now. Todd Bowles did have a nice little

609
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: retort when I asked about uh Fits his comments after

610
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: Sunday's game, Uh because Fits said I played better piste Off,

611
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be better that way, and Ball said, if

612
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: piste Off is going to stop the turnovers, I'm more

613
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: than happy to have him kissed off the whole time.

614
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: He told reporters during commons, called well done, Todd. I

615
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: listened to Ryan Fitzpatrick. I was surprised he took any

616
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: grief for his comments. He was stating the obvious. Of

617
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 1: course they lost faith in him. They just benched them

618
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: for Gino Smith, someone they did not want to start.

619
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: And it kind of reminded me of sometimes when we're

620
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: taking on the shadowy League figures in here, we don't

621
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: take it too well. We get a little angry. Maybe

622
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: that helps us. And Eric day A Decker intimated uh

623
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: this week also that Fits took a lot of frustration

624
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: potentially out of that contract situation into the season, so

625
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: kind of all bubbled over after that game. So that's

626
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: what's going on on the jet wheel of misfortune at quarterback.

627
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: Let's move on. By the way, Tie Montgomery, still we

628
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: don't know if he has RB status and Fantasy leagues yet,

629
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: little update, breaking news. What was your tweet on this? Well,

630
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: it's being treated with the seriousness of the Cuban missile crisis,

631
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: like everbody calm down. That was a perfect tweet totally.

632
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: I felt a little bad about it because I was

633
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: tweeting off Alex Gelhar, who we love, who helped out

634
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Something he wrote in a very a tone,

635
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: a solemn tone. It was something about the the situation.

636
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: But it's not just the gel Hard thing, it is

637
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: the entire fantasy community. Oh yeah, I paralyzed over this situation.

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Speaker 1: People are coming down strong on both sides of the

639
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Speaker 1: fence on this one. Right. I saw it, not to

640
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Speaker 1: you know, name names, but I saw I saw, you know,

641
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Speaker 1: other sites they were going to have like an at

642
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: length discussion of pros and cons around not like they

643
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: were wanted to hear what the fans think. They wanted

644
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: to explain that they're they're just says. Here's what blew

645
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: my mind. I see the Rotor world headline, big, huge headline,

646
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: come across Twitter. Time Montgomery now are running back? And

647
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: I went to click the link, expecting Mike McCarthy to

648
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: say time Montgomery has been switched to a running back

649
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: and he's now in the running back meeting rooms. No,

650
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: it was just Matthew Barry saying that ESPN granted him

651
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: running back. That's big. I didn't know that. That's huge.

652
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: All right, it's going to the Supreme Court. That's going.

653
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: It's one all the way to the top. That's what's

654
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: happening in the news. Uh. Greg, let's just uh yeah,

655
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Speaker 1: let's pause one more uh a second here, and we

656
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: want to hear about uh the London trip. And I

657
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: guess the first thing where I want to start was

658
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: the tweet up which I challenged you on this podcast,

659
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: even a sandwich wager, even which I can certainly um

660
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: facilitate for you. At some point I said, there's no

661
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: way you're gonna do it. You're not gonna meet up

662
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: with the fans, because that's not a Greg thing. You know,

663
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: hangs out in taverns uh, sucking down bruise with the people.

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Speaker 1: Make it sound like I'm antisocial. Okay, maybe that's so

665
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: much antisocial. But uh, you know, maybe we're strangers, isn't

666
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: your idea of a good Saturday. Well, it's not so

667
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: much that I am genuinely uncomfortable with that many people

668
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: who like me. I'm used to people. I'm used to

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Speaker 1: people not liking me or whatever. You know, at least

670
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: they're in the middle. That Rosenthal moves the needle. You

671
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: know what it's it's you know what, you know what

672
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I do I do. When we met up,

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Speaker 1: when we did the tweetup at San Francisco, was it

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00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: was great meeting all the fans. Uh, but it was

675
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Speaker 1: for me a little overwhelming as well. So many loved

676
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Speaker 1: every minute of it. You did, and I think you

677
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Speaker 1: were able to handle it. You don't have the deep

678
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Speaker 1: self hatred that I do. Those are my kind of people. Well, see,

679
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: now you're positioning it as like you're the Buro every man,

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00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: all right, West, you will give it to you if

681
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Speaker 1: you want it. But it was it's not really about that.

682
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: It's just about a lot of people all kind of

683
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Speaker 1: looking at well, and I'm not much of a land

684
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: or either, and it kind of came into I'm there

685
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: by myself if one of you guys was with me,

686
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: it would have been a no brainer. Hey, let's do this.

687
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: Here we go. You know, Hey, I'm gonna set up

688
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: a place. Here's the time, the place I'm gonna plan it.

689
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: I haven't planned like anything in years period social engagement. Hey,

690
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: here here's the place you can come. Come, you know,

691
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: be nice to me. So here's here's what we said,

692
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: our boy overseas. We said our heroes of usas our

693
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: best soldiers, come on back, all right, come back to America.

694
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Speaker 1: Say here's why you were in a win win situation.

695
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Speaker 1: Though you I think this is the way it went down. Everybody,

696
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: everybody was pretty much lost. Hope all of our British

697
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Speaker 1: fans like this. Greg is not going to meet with us.

698
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: It's late in the day, at the last minute. You

699
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: just throw out the name of place and you're guaranteed

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Speaker 1: to get at least a dozen people who just want

701
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Speaker 1: to meet you and hang out. Well, it was it

702
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: was cool. I was out with um some of the

703
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: UK meet who covers uh the nfl um well, Gavin Paolo,

704
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: our producer Ali Hunter, who does this talk sport to

705
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: podcast and radio show. People should listen to that. I

706
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: do a spot on every week, and so I was

707
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: out with them, kind of hearing what it's like to

708
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: be covering the NFL in the UK. Met up with them,

709
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: had some drinks at some dinner, and I told them

710
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: about the meet up possibility. They really encouraged me. Put

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00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: it over the top of West. West really did it showing,

712
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, West convinced some people. You know, they were

713
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: wearing the podcast jersey. There was a podcast hoodie. Someone

714
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: sent a picture of that and then you know that

715
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: really put it over the top. We gotta we gotta

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Speaker 1: meet up. So I sent a tweet out and we

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00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: went over to the bar and in twenty minutes later,

718
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, about ten people showed up. There you go,

719
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Speaker 1: and it's important. I'm really happy you did do the

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Speaker 1: meet Greg, because, uh, in studies of the metrics of

721
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: this show, six of the entire audience of the Around

722
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast is from the United Kingdom, which is

723
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: really an outrageous number when you think about it. And

724
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Speaker 1: we could have been by the way, that's double more

725
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: than any US state. Yeah, we could not. We could

726
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: not be any more grateful for everyone that listens. And

727
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: so if you wouldn't have not had any type of

728
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: tweet up that would have been you know, you know,

729
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: in hindsight, if in hindsight, if I could do it

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00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: all again, I would have just done it three hours

731
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Speaker 1: before the game at the stadium, because I would have

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Speaker 1: had I had time then, and I sort of naturally

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Speaker 1: had it. Anyways, I'm walking into the game unbelievable atmosphere

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Speaker 1: where you had to walk about a half a mile

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Speaker 1: from the train to the stadium, and it was just

736
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: sort of how you imagine a downtown like old Baseball

737
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Speaker 1: Stadium would be in in a US city, except this

738
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Speaker 1: is kind of out in the out in the country,

739
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: and there's just great food lining the streets, and there's

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00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: thousands of NFL fans just walking towards the stadium. It

741
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: was almost like a congregation. And it's cool that no

742
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: one it's cool that it's not a home game because

743
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: it's everyone. They're just kind of celebrating the fact that

744
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: they love football. You know, it's all sorts of jerseys.

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00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: The mood is great. And in that walk alone to

746
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: the stadium, I must have met ten ten different people

747
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: who just came up to me and and you know,

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00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: there was there was a lovely listener from Belgium named Betty,

749
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: Betty from Belgian Betty from Belgium who was then was

750
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: living in London. Uh. You know, there was lots of

751
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: fans and they came up and they all had different

752
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: stories that that would have been the time to do.

753
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: They all different stories. They all love the podcast for

754
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: different reasons. They all came to the NFL for strange reasons,

755
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: or like teams for you know, totally bizarre. You know

756
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: some team that's like I like the Packers because my

757
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: favorite soccer team was Green and Gold and so that's

758
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: just what I picked and stuff like that. I like

759
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: the shots of the crowd during the game, and I

760
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: know it was a big Giants crowd, but you would

761
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: see him one panoramic shot twenty different football jerseys from

762
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: twenty different teams. I thought that was so cool. It

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00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: was it was that was cool, and it reminded me.

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00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if this is what it was like to

765
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: like the NFL back in the fifties and sixties. I

766
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: think you're right about that because you hear like Hunter S.

767
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: Thompson writing about like going to Kay's Oar Stadium in

768
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: San Francisco during the sixties where it's just people who

769
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Speaker 1: love the sport before the rest of America catches onto it.

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Speaker 1: And it's not even really about the team. It's about

771
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: liking something that the rest of the people in your

772
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: country have not gotten onto yet, right and it and

773
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: it's gotten past being like a total niche sport. I mean,

774
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: it's on TV all day Sunday. They can pack these stadiums.

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00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: It's it's grown a lot in the last five years,

776
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: but it's still at the point where if you're a

777
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: fan there, you gotta be a real fan. Would you

778
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: stay up to one thirty in the morning to watch

779
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: a random Packers Bears game? Because a lot of those

780
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: fans are you know think I would. Yeah, maybe if

781
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: it was if that's all that was available, right, maybe

782
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: you would. Um, But you know, it's stay up to

783
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: watch the games, you know. They I think that's why

784
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: the podcast has been popular. There hasn't been a lot

785
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: of options for them to follow that option issue. I mean,

786
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: especially back in the day, especially in the off season,

787
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people said, you know, three times a week,

788
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: it's like we get nothing in the off season. It's

789
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: great and and and they really liked that. We you know,

790
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: on TV, there a lot of it's just X and

791
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: as XS and ose and ousis. They like the narratives,

792
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: they like the stories, the ups and downs and and

793
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and they and they really like that.

794
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 1: We covered that, right, I guess. And it's interesting because

795
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: that's those type of narratives that the United States sports

796
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: fan takes are granted because it's always being pounded upon

797
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: us all angles because the sport is so huge. It's

798
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: different out there, and it does remind me also like

799
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Speaker 1: how the Premier League has really grown in popularity in

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00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: the last ten years. I'd say in the United States

801
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: where it has those niche, very loyal fan bases, they

802
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: get to the bars super early. Uh. Good point. I

803
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: think it's very similar to what's going on in the UK.

804
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: I totally agree. I got that feel there and I

805
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: think it might be around the same level of popularity

806
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: because Premier League does really well in ratings uh here

807
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Speaker 1: on a relative scale where it's it's now at the

808
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: point where it's more popular than than some sports that

809
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: used to be big, like tennis or so. Are you

810
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: calling these British fans sports hipsters? No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: They just they just love they love the sport. They

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00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: some of them really talked to you know, I talked

813
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: to a couple that they thought it's run much better,

814
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: which is interesting because the American audience is very cynical

815
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: about how the NFL is run. But they they're comparing

816
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: it to to soccer, and they said there there are

817
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: never any changes in soccer. Good luck ever trying to

818
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: change the rule good Even the idea of an owner's

819
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: meeting to them was progressive. That's something the NFL has

820
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: always had an edge on in other sports. I'd like

821
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: to see better role changes in the next few years

822
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: than we've had in the past few years. And yeah,

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00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: it was cool throughout the game. After the game, people

824
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Speaker 1: coming coming up. London is great too. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I just gotta give a shout out. I guess we

826
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: gotta to London. I gotta. If the NFL doesn't send me,

827
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Speaker 1: I will go to London myself. I'll take the family

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00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: at some point or the wife and um. And one

829
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: last note, so you know Connor and and Mark went

830
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: last year, Greg went this year, West and I would

831
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Speaker 1: love to go at some point. We really will continue

832
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: to fight to get the whole podcast uh to London

833
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: one of the and it is an uphill battle in

834
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: this building. We've been pretty upfront about that. But that

835
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Speaker 1: I think in terms of what are the goals of

836
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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast, how we where we want

837
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: to take this thing, the four of us being in

838
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: London for a show and meeting everybody and doing something big,

839
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: there remains right near the top of the list. We're

840
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: not gonna give up. We're gonna do that. And we're

841
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: also gonna do We're gonna get the Huckapoos and Tybee

842
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: Island for the Atlantis. That's also on the list. That's

843
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: on the list. That's also on the list. All right,

844
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Speaker 1: let's move on. I'll talk a little trade deadline, which

845
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: yes is next week, next Tuesday, so in exactly one week, uh,

846
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: the deadline passes the you know, the NFL trade deadline.

847
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: Things will happen occasionally. What is the most famous trade

848
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Speaker 1: deadline deal of the last ten years, fifteen years? Can

849
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: we even think of one off the top of our head,

850
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: which might explain Percy Harvin? Is there better ones which

851
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: didn't lead to anything for either side? I mean there's

852
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: in season trades like Trent Richardson, but I mean that's

853
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: one thing that's always been A lot of fun about

854
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: being a baseball fan is right on the deadline. You

855
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: could always expect things to go down involving big names.

856
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: In the NFL not so much. But I thought of one,

857
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: and it was a guy that I saw bizarrely, I

858
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: know it must have been the other one. Multiple jerseys

859
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: at the game. Roy Williams to the Cowboys. But now

860
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: I realized people were wearing the Roy Williams safety. Oh

861
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: you're talking about the former Lions wide Yes, traded to

862
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboy. That's one. That's a big deal. Big deal

863
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: there that did not work out. Yeah, anyway, So there

864
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: are some names being floated out there, and we'll see

865
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: if any of the move. I'm gonna go with the

866
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: odds and say none of them. But some of these names.

867
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Tor Smith got another one, Carson Palmer, there was one.

868
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: Now that's a good one. That's trade. I don't know

869
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: if that was a deadline exactly of it that was.

870
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: I believe Hugh Jackson trumpeted that trade at the time

871
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: as the greatest trade in football. Yeah. Well it didn't

872
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: work out for Oakland, but it was a monster trade anyway. So, yes,

873
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: Tory Smith San Francisco for the Diners wide receiver stuck

874
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: in purgatory there, Uh, there have been some rumors connected

875
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: to him. Alshon Jeffrey, who the Bears are obviously in

876
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: a rebuilding mode. Is Jeffrey gonna be a guy that

877
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: they build around or move? We've heard some things about him.

878
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: And then Joe Thomas and Cleveland. This is an annual

879
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: thing now with Joe Thomas because the Browns are annually rebuilding.

880
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: Will they trade away a top tier or as he's

881
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: still a top tier guy at this point. I don't know,

882
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: but a very good left tackle to a contender seems

883
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: like it would help both sides. But we'll see if

884
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: it happens this year. Cleveland says, no, it's not happening.

885
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: Joe Staley also being bandied about his five time Pro

886
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Bowl or Joe Staley who may be better than Joe

887
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: Thomas at this stage of their respective careers, and Joe

888
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: on Joe heat right there, Well, they play a position

889
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: where half of the contenders need help, right It's to

890
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: me that's where I'm looking for next week. In terms

891
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: of the most likely things to happen. Staley really makes

892
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of sense. If you're the

893
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: forty Niners. You probably are thinking, though, we don't we

894
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: only have a couple of good players, do we do

895
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: we want to trade one away? Thirty two years old?

896
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: Will he be a part of the next good forty

897
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: Niners team? I don't know. It depends. They're looking reportedly

898
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: for a first round pick in exchange for it. Will

899
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: there ever be another good forty Niners team? That's a

900
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: good question. And you can say the same thing about

901
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, who is going to be thirty two in December.

902
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: And you know what I tweeted. I did a kind

903
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: of a quote retweet of an a t N article

904
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: from yesterday where the Browns were not trading Joe Thomas.

905
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: I wrote, why not? And then Connor Or, who as

906
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: we know is a Browns fan, wrote, because for whoever

907
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: you get at quarterback, you need that guy not to

908
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: be terrified about what's happening on his blind side. But again,

909
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: thirty two years old, by the time that next quarterback

910
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: and that and this next nucleus that Hugh jack and

911
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: and Sassi are trying to build, is Joe Thomas gonna

912
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: be good anymore? He's probably gonna He's probably got one

913
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: or two years left as alignment that you could count

914
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: on the left side. Does he even want to leave Cleveland?

915
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: Last year he was all but traded to the Broncos.

916
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: The two teams agreed on a deal and Joe Thomas said,

917
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to go. Well, I don't. I don't know.

918
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: Let's I think if the if the situation came up,

919
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: or can we throw out it? Can I throw out

920
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: a trade? Throw something out because and then we'll throw

921
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: you out of here if it's bad. How about that?

922
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if Joe Thomas was over Tom. Sorry we

923
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: hear we're hearing reports that Joe Thomas could you know,

924
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: be available for a second round pick, and people are

925
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: acting like, oh, that's so much for Joe Thomas. Are

926
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: you are you kidding me? Who says no, Seattle Seahawks

927
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: send a second round pick over to Cleveland for Joelton.

928
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, you have a you have a child. There's

929
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: not he chalts you with his arms. A true New

930
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Yorker would not. That's true. Oh, magnificos. I'm standing over here.

931
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: It's Greg in New York. I'm walking to you. Hey,

932
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: give me a pizza. Oh go ahead, Yeah, sorry, I

933
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: wasn't I was out getting a slice. Uh uh. Let

934
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Seahawks have a window here. They're they're one of the

935
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: best teams of the last twenty years, and they're in that.

936
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: They're in smack in the middle. Joe Thomas gonna give

937
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: you at the very worst capable left tackle play for

938
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: another couple of years to help protect Russell Wilson. It's

939
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: this is a bold franchise. Take advantage of that window

940
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: on this lousy offensive line. The Seahawks have shown that

941
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: they're not afraid to move early round draft picks in

942
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: exchange for veterans, and the way they sign undrafted free

943
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: agents as rookies and their success with that, why not

944
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: use that success to part with a second round pick. Know,

945
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: you can just replace them with guys that you picked

946
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: up off the heap. You keep drafting guys in for

947
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line first second round in some work, most

948
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: of them don't. Why not you and a guy you know? Well,

949
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: what about the basic mechanics of playing the position? I don't,

950
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I know it. Maybe you guys can

951
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: shed some light. If you trade for a Joe Staley

952
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: or Joe Thomas, can you just plug them in as

953
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: your left tackle? And not have to worry about anything.

954
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: Is it that simple? It's a fair question. I mean,

955
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: they're known as one of the great zone blocking schemes

956
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and Hugh Jackson does not have a

957
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: zone blocking scheme. Tom Cable also known as one one

958
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: of the best old line coaches in the NFL. A

959
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: guy like Joe Thomas after ten years in the league,

960
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: how much does he need coaching? He seems like a

961
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: natural to me. That's a good one, Greg, I think, yeah,

962
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: you gotta see just like I mean, potentially the Browns

963
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: say no, but the report reports out there is that

964
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: they that they seem pretty open to it. Despite what

965
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: Hughes said. I don't like the idea when you have

966
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: like a once in a generation type talent at quarterback

967
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: or one of the best guy is in the league,

968
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: you don't give away a year of the prime their prime.

969
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: The Seattle could be doing that if they don't get

970
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: this guy some help, Russell Wilson, just like they did

971
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: in Carolina with a blown up that secondary. It looks

972
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: like they're going to kick away a year of Cam

973
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: Newton's prime. Go for it. When you have these guys,

974
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: I'll throw it out there actually see, I wanted to

975
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: come up with a different one. I'll throw it out

976
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: there because this guy there's a lot of there's a

977
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: big question mark around him now. But I'll say it

978
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: anyway because maybe there's more behind the scenes in Kansas City,

979
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: uh that we don't know. And it's beyond just whether

980
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: his health is right. But let's say Jamal Charles knees

981
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: are okay, and it's more some something's cooking night and

982
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: right now with Andy Reid and management and Jamal Charles,

983
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: And that helps to explain partly why Spencer wear is

984
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: the unquestioned dude back there right now. And then I

985
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: look at a team like the New York Giants, all right,

986
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: So a team that's offense is almost being held hostage

987
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: a little bit right now by their inability to get

988
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: a running game going at all. And I know they

989
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: have offensive line problems as well, but I think if

990
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: you can get something to get that offense a little

991
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: shot in the arm, uh with that, with those wide

992
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: receivers in that quarterback, maybe a Jamal Charles to the

993
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: New York Giants taking a risk again, Eli Manning, thirty

994
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: five years old, don't have a lot of time left

995
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: with with him throw the dice. Second round pick Jamal

996
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: Charles has one more year left on his deal. It's manageable.

997
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: Three point seven five million with some other bonus is

998
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: tied to it, but not an astronomical number. Who says no, Well,

999
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: the Giants because the price is too high with the

1000
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: uncertainty in terms of the injury protected second round pick,

1001
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: it's a third round pick unless he rushes for a

1002
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: thousand yards. I think you're onto something here. It's not

1003
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: yards by the end of the season. It's not crazy,

1004
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: and I and I do wonder if the Chiefs feel

1005
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: like the situation is a little uncomfortable because he's an

1006
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: all time great and on some level they are benching him.

1007
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: I know he's not a hundred percent healthy, but he

1008
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: also said two weeks ago he is a hundred per

1009
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: cent and he played as a backup in that game,

1010
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: and then he seemed like maybe he had a setback

1011
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: in the Raiders game. I I don't think it's crazy

1012
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: to imagine been trading. I don't think it would cost

1013
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: that much to do it. And I think the Giants

1014
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: could find some running back out there. I think you're

1015
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: onto something because they need a running back badly, and

1016
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: maybe they can find one out there for a fourth

1017
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: or a fifth round pick. I don't think the Giants

1018
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: are good enough to make that trade. I think that's

1019
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: a trade of contender mix. Well, they're four and three,

1020
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: they're not good enough. Did you watch that game against

1021
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: the Rams. Eli was terrible. I just don't You're not

1022
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: gonna make that trade when you're already mortgaging your all.

1023
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: I agree with you that they're not good, but they

1024
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: have a really good defense. They probably think they're good.

1025
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: They have Eli and O'Dell and Shepherd. They probably think

1026
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: they're better than that. They're four and three from an

1027
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: organization standpoint. They also and they have every right to

1028
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: do so. Look at their team and be like, if

1029
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: we could just get in the playoffs, maybe we get

1030
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: on another hot run and we do it again, just

1031
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: like the other two years. They want a Super Bowl.

1032
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: Nobody thought they were going to do that. I mean,

1033
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: maybe they just think that they can get there. Magic

1034
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: happens once again. Maybe Joe Staley is a much better

1035
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: target for them than Jamal Chal. Yeah, you got a

1036
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: first round pick playing at left tackle. It's a little complication.

1037
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: Should have been a right tackle to begin with, you

1038
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: got one West, you want to throw that one right

1039
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: there by the way, Little Joe Staley too, just kind

1040
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: of make it does make some sense. They have potential

1041
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: to have a top five defense. I know they're not

1042
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: there yet, but they there. They have a top five secondary,

1043
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I'm not gonna go with who says no,

1044
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: but who where's the better landing spot? Hypothetically that Cowboys

1045
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: make Tony Romo available? Now you're cooking with gas, stay

1046
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: in stay in Texas with Houston who has a window

1047
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: to win that division right now? And they know they

1048
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 1: might not admit it, but they know deep down brock

1049
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: Oswallers a seventy two million dollar boondoggle that was a

1050
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: mistake of epic proportions or dance New York Jets Tony

1051
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: Romo to the Jets. You know, I don't think the

1052
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: Jets may. I fear that the ownership Woody Johnson, who

1053
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: loves that kind of stuff, would make the move. But

1054
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: I think the one thing I have learned from the

1055
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,479
Speaker 1: last two months of football is that the Jets weren't

1056
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: as close as they realize. So I don't think Tony

1057
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Rome was a missing peace guy. I would have thought

1058
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: this a month ago, but now I kind of see

1059
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: more clearly, and I think the Jets see that as well,

1060
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: especially with Eric Decker out of the picture. So I

1061
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: don't think the Jets are a good option Houston. The

1062
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: only problem is, and it kind of goes back to

1063
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: what I was saying earlier, you're paying brock Oswell or

1064
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: a ton of money, even if you can get out

1065
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: of it next year, it's thirty seven million guaranteed. Tony

1066
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: Robol gets paid a ton of money. How do you

1067
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: afford that ball guys in your roster? Yeah, it's it's logically.

1068
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: He's tough to trade because it's gonna hurt the Cowboys,

1069
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: and it's gonna hurt whoever you could go to. I

1070
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: could see him maybe replacing old j Cutler, maybe Chicago

1071
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: next ye. He is an eastern Illinois guy, right, I

1072
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: don't think. Also, I don't think Jara wants to send

1073
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: If he's gonna send Tony out of town, he doesn't

1074
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: want to send him to the other Texas team where

1075
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: it could potentially come back to bite him. That's true. Sneaky,

1076
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: sneaky rivalry there between Texans face even if they doesn't

1077
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: like that what about all right, I'm gonna throw one

1078
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: out here, all right? Who says no alson Jeffrey probably

1079
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: maybe not gonna be back with the Bears next year. Anyways,

1080
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: goes to a team. You gotta be a little desperate

1081
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: right now to trade for al Sean. I think he's

1082
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: a good player. You gotta be a little desperate. And

1083
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: who's more desperate than Rex Ryan and a GM and

1084
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: front office that doesn't know if they're gonna be around

1085
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: next year. They gotta win in record. They got enough

1086
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: to believe they could just be good enough. But they

1087
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: got no on that wide receiver. Let's send him for

1088
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: a second round pick. Who says, now, you know, if

1089
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: Rex tells Willy to do it all happen, wouldn't it

1090
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: improve their team dramatically? They could really use it all?

1091
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 1: Sad Jeffrey, I guess that's obvious. Little Tyrod Taylor deepall

1092
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: what's the terms of the I said, second round pick?

1093
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: Maybe he could do it for a third. They traded

1094
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: Martella's Bennett for a fifth or something. I think he

1095
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: is the waste in Buffalo. What they want to run

1096
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: the ball every down there but you but you can't.

1097
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: You can't have championship aspirations with Robert Woods as your

1098
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: number one, they can't have championship aspirations period. I mean,

1099
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: I just don't think the Bills are a championship team.

1100
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: Why why pay a second round pick for a guy

1101
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: who's gonna give you a chance to get a wild

1102
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: card birth I don't know. Well, when when jobs are

1103
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: on the line, that's when desperate type of trades happen.

1104
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: And uh, to me, that's the Bills right now. They're

1105
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: kind of a playoff for bus team. So you might say,

1106
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: what's a wild card spot gonna do? But it might

1107
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: get Rex Ryan. Isn't a three year contract? Isn't it

1108
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: time for the Bills to stop making overly emotional decisions

1109
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: and be prisoners of stopping prisoners of the moment like

1110
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: they did with Lashawn McCoy, who was dragging his leg

1111
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: on the first the first play of the Bills offense

1112
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: last week. It was a bad idea to put him

1113
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: out there. It was an overly emotional decision and money

1114
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL don't make that decision. Austan Jeffred

1115
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go to Buffalo either, So are you

1116
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: gonna be able to retain him at the end of

1117
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: the year. Nobody wants to play in Western New York,

1118
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: although it was perfectly nice area. That's they pay him

1119
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: the They pay him the right money. They give him

1120
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: the right I'm gonna pay him and Sammy Watkins, they

1121
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: pay him the right offer. Before you running tee agency,

1122
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 1: Alshan Jeffrey not for nothing, and we say, Emmy Watkins

1123
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: is cheap right now, They won't be cheap in a minute.

1124
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: Jeffrey not playing well this year either, But you could

1125
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: say the quarterback, but I brod Hoyer has been was

1126
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: putting up actually pretty good numbers when he was in

1127
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: the lineup, and him and Jeffrey were not getting on

1128
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: the same page. I don't know if you send Alshon

1129
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: Jeffrey to play a Tyrod Taylor on the fly if

1130
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: he even makes an impact. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.

1131
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor couldn't find Sammy Watkins enough to satisfy the

1132
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: bills for an office. Is he gonna find Alshan Jeffrey enough.

1133
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor's got a pretty deep ball, he does, and

1134
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is playing well, but finding number one receivers

1135
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: might not be his forte. It was it was a

1136
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: good one, Greg, it was good. It was it was

1137
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: I think, I think it's it makes sense. Bills, come

1138
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: at come with me, do it and make me look smart.

1139
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: They need to stop doing what is right though they

1140
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: seem they would do a trade like this, and this

1141
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: stuff doesn't really seem to work in the NFL. When

1142
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: you get all cute, I don't know, we'll see all right,

1143
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: anything else. Let's move on Thursday Night Football preview AFC

1144
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: South is But but you know these teams still deserve

1145
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: a prime time stage every once in a while. People.

1146
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: This but thing happened while I was gone building a

1147
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I listened to the Sunday show and

1148
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: it felt like a callback. I I did not listen

1149
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: to the Thursday show. Thank you for your support. It

1150
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: was born on a Thursday. Um. Anyway, the Jaguars and

1151
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: Titans both teams coming off losses. The Jaguars got spanked.

1152
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, we know the Raiders can't defend anybody.

1153
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 1: And when you are in your building and you can't

1154
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: move the football and your quarterbacks mess like Blake Bortles

1155
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: is right now, you you start to lose hope. Even

1156
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: Jags ladies losing hope. I just you know one thing

1157
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: about Jack's lady, though, you don't lie about where you are.

1158
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: It's like, if you're a beach house, is I was

1159
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: in Miami with my new beach house. Well it was

1160
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes from this. Okay, let's say you're

1161
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes on the beach. M hmm. Well,

1162
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're really the one to be

1163
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: picking on someone for you know, hometown and location accuracy

1164
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: based on this whole coal mining uh controversy. That is

1165
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: how our town breathes. In a fit of brilliancy, one

1166
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: of our followers tweeted at me that the Jaguars are

1167
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: that lady. They were sold to us as a beach house,

1168
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: but they're actually three minutes from the beach that I

1169
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: think his name was Eric Deedle, our previous done. Yeah,

1170
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: we're giving Sessler two more days to get back, if

1171
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: not get that guy in the chair joining the podcast. Anyway,

1172
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: So now they the Jaguars travel to Nashville to face

1173
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans West, a battle of two teams. UH

1174
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: that thought they had quarterbacks that we're going to anchor

1175
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: their season, but instead both those quarterbacks are struggling and

1176
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: the team's falling behind. Yeah, I know, I've been pounding

1177
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: on boardles mechanics and they got worse. I think they

1178
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: were worse against the Raiders, and they've been all year.

1179
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: And I know they have running game issues, and I

1180
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: know his decision making is part of the problem. He

1181
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: doesn't read the field well. But there are screen grabs

1182
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: of him dialing back to pass and his arm the

1183
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: ball is pointed towards the ground. This is what's going

1184
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: on with his motion right now. It's taking him back

1185
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: down here before he goes up, and defensive linemen are

1186
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: batting down balls. Receivers aren't getting two balls because it

1187
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,959
Speaker 1: takes so long for him to wind up and throw.

1188
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: And what shocks me is that the Jaguars coaches are

1189
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: not addressing this. Is gonna say if you can see it,

1190
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: if people on Twitter are seeing it, and the play

1191
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: is obviously through the floor right now, are we reading

1192
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: anything out of Jacksonville that they're trying to fig sis mechanics? Nothing?

1193
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: What is going on with Blake? Reporters are asking the

1194
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: questions and Gus Bradley is not answering with any kind

1195
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: of answers about the mechanics of his quarter but they

1196
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: thought they were good on offense. They didn't really change much.

1197
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: They added Chris Ivory. They thought this is an explosive offense.

1198
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm I think they're flummixed. I'm flummixed. I loved watching

1199
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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles last year. He is a big loss for

1200
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: me in terms of believing what I see because he

1201
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: made more wow plays per game than any quarterback in

1202
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: the league. Well, I feel like there's only one person

1203
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: in the podcast studio that was saying, let's hold off

1204
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: on Blake Bortles. It's fair. Remember that the old the

1205
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: old zoos, sir, and we haven't get you, Dan Hans

1206
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: despite city, hold on, hold on, I don't get many

1207
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: victories like this, please, Mark would, but you would be

1208
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: breaking it up. You're the only one that would bring

1209
01:00:53,680 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 1: it up here. It is sweat and bullets up is yes,

1210
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of victories in this realm

1211
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: so sound, it's it's crazy. Allen Robinson is seventy one

1212
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: in the league in receiving yards right now. By the way,

1213
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: he's not playing well either. He's dropping balls left and

1214
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: here's some players with more receiving yards in him Hunter,

1215
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: Henry Adam Thielan, Jeremy Curly, Kevin Coleman. I think Lee.

1216
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right Lee. Lee does have more. Hearns

1217
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: does too, So yeah, Bino Tiger has more yards than Allen.

1218
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And their defense, which has made strides, it's better.

1219
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: It's a little more frisky. Dead last in the league

1220
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: in turnovers, turnovers forced, and that's what those Seattle Gus

1221
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: Bradley types of defenses harp on. So that's really not working.

1222
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: What's working for them nothing. I think they're lucky to

1223
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: be too and or I think Titans are gonna win

1224
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: this game. Titans have an offensive line. Titans have Delaney

1225
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: Walker too, like Titans have a pass rush. They're not

1226
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: a great team, but I think they're They're in the

1227
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: mix to be interesting. I think the Jaggers could easily

1228
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: be O and six if you look at their two wins.

1229
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: They did not play particularly well offensively in either one

1230
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: of those games. For for most of those games, Titans

1231
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: play and they beat two bad teams. Titans play everyone tough.

1232
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: They have been within a score on the good side

1233
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: of the bad side of every game in the fourth

1234
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: quarter this year. I find them fun to watch because

1235
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: they're a little different. DeMarco Murray is having a great season.

1236
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: Uh there, you know, like I said, the pass rush,

1237
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: they're they're not They're not a bad watch. Give it

1238
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: a shot, Danny, all right. I mean I'll watch the

1239
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: game because I watched the games at the prime time,

1240
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: but I won't be happy doing it. Julius Thomas is

1241
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: a bust again. The quarterbacks the problem though, So what

1242
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: do you what can you say if I don't think

1243
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: you can really call any of these receivers bust. It's

1244
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: all body Chris Ivory. So Ivory is not the same

1245
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: explosive guy that you saw with the Jets. I mean

1246
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: he wasn't even by November of last year. But they

1247
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: had no problem giving a ton of money anyway. T

1248
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: j yelled in three point three yards per car. I

1249
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: mean there are problems. They're not getting to the quarterback.

1250
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: What happened to Saxonville was there's you know, all sorts

1251
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: of problems with Jacksonville. To watch the Titans then, because

1252
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: the Jags are not going anywhere right now, I think

1253
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: that's a cell. Watch the Titoons on Thursday night. Marone

1254
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: want an issue, Well, man, this Jacksonville schedule is is

1255
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: not bad looking though well over team is bad. All

1256
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: I was thinking was Gus Bradley, likable guy. He's got

1257
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: these I don't think they'd fire him in the middle

1258
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: of the season. He's got these ten games, and if

1259
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: things don't turn around drastically, that that's gonna be it

1260
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: for him. I don't that's it's not a surprise he's done.

1261
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: They just can't do what they did last year, and

1262
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: that's the problem. He's done. I don't like, you know,

1263
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: you get really upset about guys getting canned, and we

1264
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: all do. They're all human beings. But if I if

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Speaker 1: I can lock something in a lock of the week,

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Speaker 1: I think both that's cruel, both both Gus and the

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Speaker 1: man upstairs. His name escapes me. Right now. He's necessarily done.

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Speaker 1: I could see, I could they If they go three

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Speaker 1: and thirteen, I think that they're gonna blow things up.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see. Here we go. That's it. That's it

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Speaker 1: for Tuesday's edition of the Around the NFL podcast. We

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Speaker 1: will be back on Thursday, where we will recap the

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Speaker 1: game that we just talked about, KFC South matchup, and

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Speaker 1: then we will preview all of the week eight games

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Speaker 1: to come on Sunday and Monday night. So thank you

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Speaker 1: again to everyone from listening. Greg, good to have you back.

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Speaker 1: It is it is so good to be stand Hands

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Speaker 1: is signing off for the mail Man, the Boss and

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Speaker 1: La Sid behind the Glass till Thursday. Tom Savage is Real.

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage is real. Tom Savage is real. Tom Savage

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Speaker 1: is real. Tom Savage is real. Tom Savage is real.

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage is real. Tom Savage is real. Tom Savage

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Speaker 1: is real, Tom Savage is real, Tom Savage is real.

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage is real.