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Speaker 2: Oh are we due for some Anthony Edwards magic here

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, good afternoon to you, buddy. Everything good in

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Speaker 2: your world as we get set for Game three t

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Speaker 2: Wolves taking on the Dallas Mavericks here.

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Speaker 4: Everything is good, happening a world day to everyone. Thank

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Speaker 4: you to all the veterans who've allowed us to have

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Speaker 4: this day. We give things to you before we talk

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Speaker 4: about sports here for for another three hours.

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Speaker 3: Brian, absolutely, it uh.

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Speaker 4: It's good, you know, I just you know, you know,

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Speaker 4: so the thing about sports and gambling and things we

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Speaker 4: like to watch, it just goes in waves, you know,

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Speaker 4: like and you just have to you gotta ride the waves. Right.

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Speaker 4: You have days where you lose a wager because of

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Speaker 4: a Doug McDermott tip in at the end of the

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Speaker 4: third quarter.

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Speaker 3: That's oddly specific.

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Speaker 4: Jack, And you have other days where like, you know,

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Speaker 4: the Oils come back and score seven against the White

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Speaker 4: Sox and you cover. You know, just it just it's

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Speaker 4: one of those days. Man. You know, we have lots

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Speaker 4: of sports on today. I got wagers sort of all

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Speaker 4: over the board. I got a UFL and softball Indy

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Speaker 4: five hundred. I have a who I got a text, Yeah, softballs,

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Speaker 4: you can make money in that. I have a text

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Speaker 4: from someone buddy of mine who said his friend who

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Speaker 4: knows the Indy five hundred is on this plus four thousand.

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Speaker 4: So I have twenty five dollars brought on a plus

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Speaker 4: four thousand here as he watched the Indy five hundred.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we got plenty of action basketball tonight. Baseball. Man,

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Speaker 4: it's a good time for sports.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's funny.

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Speaker 2: Last year, so I was doing a bunch of fill

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Speaker 2: in stuff for an Indianapolis radio station.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I came up with you a few times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did, that's right, And leading up to the

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Speaker 2: Indy five hundred, reinterviewed a couple of the drivers. And

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Speaker 2: so I got to go to the race last year

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Speaker 2: and I'm walking there with my girlfriend into the race

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what, I'm thinking about putting

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Speaker 2: one hundred bucks on the two guys I interviewed before

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Speaker 2: the race. I'm like, Nah, that's just stupid. I'm just

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Speaker 2: probably throwing two hundred dollars away. Well, one of the guys,

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Speaker 2: Joseph Newgarden.

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Speaker 3: Won and he was forty to one.

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Speaker 2: So if I laid one hundred bucks, I would have

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Speaker 2: won four thousand dollars Jeff, But I just I thought

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Speaker 2: that would be a bad wager.

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Speaker 4: One hundred bucks is a little heavy for that. Maybe

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Speaker 4: twenty dollars twenty hours a little bit better than that.

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Speaker 4: My guy right now is fifteen. I think his name

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Speaker 4: is Hunter ray as my ill who it is, I

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Speaker 4: gotta look you, I gotta check it out. But four thousand,

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Speaker 4: huh indy five hundred today had a Aaron Rodgers s start,

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Speaker 4: just an immediate big crash on a lap one after

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Speaker 4: a multiple hour rain delay. So it's up and running

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Speaker 4: the racing and you I'm not a racing fan per se.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't mind watching some of the bigger

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Speaker 4: to a couple of NASCAR events. Man, it's hard to

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Speaker 4: really understand how fast they're moving on television.

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Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, it is. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I've been to the Indy five hundred a handful of times,

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Speaker 2: made it to the Brickyard Race there, the NASCAR race

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Speaker 2: and Indy handful of years ago, but especially the Indy

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Speaker 3: Jeff.

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Speaker 2: If you're I don't care where you are as long

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Speaker 4: Two sixteen right down the back of the back stretch right.

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Speaker 2: There, like, yeah, yeah, he's up to twenty two climbing

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Speaker 2: dive on Indy racing, don't worry, Jeff. But the way

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Speaker 2: And so last year it was basically a one lap

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Speaker 4: Now, So are you are you on him again if

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, sometimes better stay away. We're not staying away

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Speaker 3: Be you on this one. Yeah you big Uh?

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Speaker 4: No, I have the under tonight. And I got Anthony

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Speaker 4: Edwards over points and rebounds over a rebounds and assists.

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Speaker 4: He had a lot of rebounds in the series. If

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Speaker 4: lot about matchups. If you're guarding a guy who is

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Speaker 4: because you know when a shot goes up, you're able

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Speaker 4: to get to the lane basically unabated. There's no one

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Speaker 4: one thing to look at tonight. The question is obviously

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Speaker 4: ken antheawards score points and you know, Brian, it's so

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Speaker 4: interesting how our opinions change about the NBA almost series

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Speaker 4: by series. Yeah, but one thing that this series in

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Speaker 4: talk about the Boston a few minutes. I have very

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Speaker 4: angry message I sent Brian about Jason Tatum all the

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Speaker 4: time is you know, you you cannot overstate the importance

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Speaker 4: for Luca and Kyrie Irving to finish in big moments,

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Speaker 4: Luca might he could have missed that shot, by the way,

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Speaker 4: win an NBA championship. And I don't know if Anthey

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Speaker 4: Edwards is there quite yet, Brian. For the most part,

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Speaker 4: championship teams tend to have their best players about twenty

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Speaker 4: you know, like Jordan, how many years say Jordan to win? Right?

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Speaker 4: Even Lebron and Andy it which is a fantastic basketball

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Speaker 4: like we're gonna we're gonna sing this praises for years

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Speaker 4: to come. But I think the last couple of Knights

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Speaker 4: have showed. And these are these were home games too.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't on the road. It was a very grueling

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Speaker 4: seven game series to beat Denver the NBA champions You

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Speaker 4: Dallas did, knocking off knocking off who now you forgot

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Speaker 4: if Dallas eve been played? Okay, see yeah, But I

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Speaker 4: think the big difference in this series is that, right is,

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Speaker 4: Anthey Edwards is not quite at that level to finish

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Speaker 4: games like Luca and like Kyrie who's done it for

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Speaker 4: now is and I must ay anything that's that's crazy,

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Speaker 4: but like else has those guys, they're experienced and andthey

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Speaker 4: just has to be the guy from Minnesota. He's just

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Speaker 3: No, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: And look the last three games. You go back to

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Speaker 2: Game seven against Denver, that was Anthony Edwards shooting six

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Speaker 2: stellar performance at all. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: Everybody's singing his praises. This guy is a dud. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that. But your point is well received. He's

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Speaker 2: just not on the closer level as some of the

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Speaker 2: I think that's on point. Because you're looking at Luca.

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Speaker 2: And you've seen three games in a row for Anthony

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Speaker 2: the same offensive threat. Charles Barkley pointed this out, where

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Speaker 2: maybe he's fatigued. Maybe he's tiring right here, because it's

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Speaker 2: to play defense, right, to really buy in on the

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Speaker 3: Catch up with him a bit.

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Speaker 4: And Brian, he hasn't played this much basketball yet. It

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Speaker 4: is a is very grueling, right, it is is long

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Speaker 4: You know it takes Minnesota time, I think, and there's

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Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that, but I think we're seeing that is,

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Speaker 2: I think that's the crazy thing with Luca. It's how

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Speaker 2: many games have we seen the guy where he's not

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Speaker 2: even close to one hundred percent and his game is different, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't rely on this insane athletic ability that Anthony

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Speaker 2: he's really crafty, but he's not this dude that's just

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Speaker 2: this insane athlete. He's limping up and down the court

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Speaker 2: and this is not some you know, he's hamming it

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Speaker 2: up and this is him going Hollywood like. He is

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Speaker 2: really banged up, and he is still scoring and affecting

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Speaker 2: it's really something that Luca is this good and this

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Speaker 2: impactful when he's not close to one hund right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not I'm not totally certain that Luga doesn't

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Speaker 2: Without backing your STI world, well, their backs are certainly

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Speaker 2: He might he very well could. I love that strategy

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Speaker 2: I'm coming to you live from the Tirereck dot com studios. So, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: I was watching some U some baseball today, still watching

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Speaker 8: And this is this is also just a Nike issue

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Speaker 4: good job of it. I mean it's that simple.

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Speaker 2: Like I do love I do love Bow's take, though,

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Speaker 2: Are you on board with it? Like you could be right,

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Speaker 2: because if you're wearing a hat of your favorite team,

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Speaker 2: it connects the team to the city, Like if it's

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Speaker 2: the Detroit you know, the D on the hat or

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Speaker 2: the STL for the Cardinals or what, that's the city

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Speaker 2: directly connects the city.

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Speaker 5: Though.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to change that.

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Speaker 4: No, the other change has to be made is all

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Speaker 4: starking go back to wearing their home their own uniforms.

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Speaker 4: The All Star uniforms are ridiculous. I don't like I'm

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Speaker 4: a baseball follower, but I we be honest. I don't

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Speaker 4: know the the name of every best player on every team.

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Speaker 4: You know, I watch for gambling purposes. A lot of

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Speaker 4: times I'm not watching like, oh, there's the best player

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Speaker 4: on this team. You have to go back to wearing

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Speaker 4: their uniform so I know who they are, like, and

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Speaker 4: that sounds silly, right, But you want people like me

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Speaker 4: who are fans of sports to watch your game. And

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Speaker 4: if I watch the game, I don't know who the

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Speaker 4: players are with teams. That's silly to me. Like put

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Speaker 4: them in their uniforms. It looks it looks great when

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Speaker 4: they're all wearing their uniforms. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They used to do that in the NBA All Star

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Speaker 2: Game too, remember way back when, Remember when Jordan and

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Speaker 2: Kobe in the Garden were in the All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: They're wearing their their actual uniforms. I thought that was

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Speaker 2: fine too.

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Speaker 4: But the NBA, though has home teams that were like yellow, Like,

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Speaker 4: I understand why that's a problem. Everyone's wearing white and

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Speaker 4: you were in yellow because back in the Lakers only

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Speaker 4: had didn't have the whites. Baseball has white, white, and gray.

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Speaker 4: Like everyone has a home in a road uniform that's

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Speaker 4: the same color.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, Jeff, I know you're in the market

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Speaker 2: to make some money gambling lives. You know there's a

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Speaker 2: bet that you need to avoid, like league, if you're

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Speaker 2: trying to make some cash. We'll have that for everybody

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Speaker 2: right around the corner. First, though, our guy Kevin wired

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Speaker 2: k dubb with us this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: What's going on, Kevin?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we got the Indianapolis five hundred at long last.

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Speaker 10: It is underway. It was delayed by several hours because

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Speaker 10: of inclement weather in the Indianapolis area. They had severe thunderstorms,

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Speaker 10: but around four forty four Eastern time, they were able

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Speaker 10: to get the race going, but it only went one

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Speaker 10: lap before they had to stop it again because of

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Speaker 10: a major crash. But thankfully the delay there didn't last

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Speaker 10: too long, as they're now in lap of forty six

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Speaker 10: out of two hundred, though they might not get all

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Speaker 10: two hundred laps in, they were saying that the goal

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Speaker 10: was to make it through one hundred and one laps,

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Speaker 10: which would make the race official. Scott mc laughlin currently

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Speaker 10: in the lead there at the forty six lap mark.

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Speaker 10: Major League Baseball huge development in the Pennant Race as

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Speaker 10: the Braves and Pirates played today. The Braves did win

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Speaker 10: it eight to one, but the story was Ronald Lacunya Junior,

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Speaker 10: the reigning MVP, had a non contact knee injury. He

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Speaker 10: was running the bases and his knee buckle.

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Speaker 3: You'll see them attending to that leftnee.

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Speaker 4: Leftnee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Of course, the Braves have struggled with injuries this season,

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Speaker 11: and now the raiding MVP, Ronald dacunia Junior, limps off

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Speaker 11: gingerly favoring.

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Speaker 10: That left lick that came from Bally Sports South. So

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Speaker 10: this very well could be a devastating blow to the

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Speaker 10: Braves as they trailed the Philadelphia Phillies entering today's contest

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Speaker 10: by seven games in the NL East standings. Elsewhere in

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Speaker 10: Major League Baseball, many of the games have gone final

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Speaker 10: Tigers and Blue Jays. This one had several league changes

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Speaker 10: in twenty five combine run score before the Tigers win

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Speaker 10: it and walk off fashion Farlan swings Sky said, deep.

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Speaker 11: Blackfield, this is not coming back.

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Speaker 3: Matt Fairlan a bulb.

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Speaker 2: And the Tigers walk it off fourteen to eleven.

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Speaker 10: Final score. Tigers Radio Network with the call so Detroit

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Speaker 10: wins this one by three, breaking that eleven eleven tige

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Speaker 10: there in the ninth inning, Reid's finish off the sweep

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Speaker 10: of the Dodgers for to one. Red Sox win a

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Speaker 10: pitcher's duel against the Brewers at Fenway Park two to one,

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Speaker 10: Mariners over the Nationals at the Nation's Capital nine to five,

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Speaker 10: Raise beat the Royals four to one, and the Mets

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Speaker 10: come from behind to beat the San Francisco Giants four

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Speaker 10: to three. We do have a handful of games in

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Speaker 10: action right now. Oriols and White Sox. That game was

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Speaker 10: long delayed because of a rain delay, and they're now

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Speaker 10: in the bottom of the seventh inning on the south side.

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Speaker 9: Orioles lead this one a two to one.

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Speaker 10: Rocky's on top of the Phillies five to that game

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Speaker 10: in the top of the ninth inning, and that game

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Speaker 10: actually has a just come two in n so The

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Speaker 10: Rockies do beat the Phillies. Final score in at Denver

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Speaker 10: five to two. Padres Yankees that game. In the bottom

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Speaker 10: of the fifth inning, it is scoreless. Diamondbacks and Marlins scoreless.

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Speaker 10: They're in the top of the sixth inning out in

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Speaker 10: the Desert. Astros trying to get a win here against

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Speaker 10: the Athletics. They're up five to nothing. In the middle

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Speaker 10: of the sixth inning, Guardians and Angels nodded up at two.

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Speaker 9: They are in the top of the six.

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Speaker 10: NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs, the series tied one to one

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Speaker 10: Game three between the Panthers and Rangers Eastern Conference Finals,

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Speaker 10: and New York right now on top four to two

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Speaker 10: as they have fifteen forty to go in the third period.

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Speaker 10: And NBA playoffs, we have about two two and a

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Speaker 10: half hours to go before Game three of the Western

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Speaker 10: Conference Finals. Malvericks and Timberwolves hip off set for eight

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Speaker 10: o'clock Eastern time, Dallas trying to take a commanding three

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Speaker 10: to nothing series lead Back to you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, keV.

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Speaker 2: It's Jeff Schwartz Brian Know with you here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, coming to you live from the Tireck dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. So this is this is not a smart wager, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: this would be we're looking at the NBA Draft coming

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Speaker 2: up here and about a month right next month, late June,

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Speaker 2: and the most bets at BETMGM have been placed on

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Speaker 2: Bronnie James to be the number one overall pick, which

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Speaker 2: is a horrible idea.

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Speaker 3: Because that's not going to happen. That's just now.

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Speaker 2: There's a little bit of audio. He's two hundred to

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Speaker 2: one to be the top pick. Jeff right, So, and

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Speaker 2: there's some audio. This is Koley Harvey from ESPN and

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Speaker 2: also Brian Windhorst talking about all these bets that are

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Speaker 2: are being placed on Bronnie James being the number one

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Speaker 2: overall pick.

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Speaker 3: Check this out.

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Speaker 12: At two hundred to one, Bronnie James currently has the

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Speaker 12: longest odds of being selected first overall in next month's

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Speaker 12: NBA draft, but that isn't stopping number of betters from

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Speaker 12: placing wagers that he'll follow in Dad's footsteps and be

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Speaker 12: picked number one.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, it's kind of laughable that that would even be offered,

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Speaker 8: much less that somebody would actually put any sort of

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Speaker 8: significant money on it.

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Speaker 2: I just love that statement so much, Jeff where Windy

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Speaker 2: is like, it's laughable this would even be offered.

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Speaker 3: But yet we have these knuckleheads that are still taking

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Speaker 3: that bet.

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Speaker 4: That's why it's being offered, because people are still taking it.

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Speaker 4: I think the most sort of surprising thing about this

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Speaker 4: whole process is that Brownie James is like six '

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Speaker 4: one the measurement at the combine and they give accurate

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Speaker 4: measurements now, and I think people would probably not have

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Speaker 4: assumed that. And he was listed at USC at six

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Speaker 4: three or six four, and he's just not and that

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Speaker 4: obviously he hurts his ability to be drafted. Look, he'll

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Speaker 4: be drafted, probably in the second round by someone. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if it's don't think it's the Lakers. I

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Speaker 4: really don't think that Lebron has tied to the idea

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Speaker 4: of like the Lakers having to draft his son or

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Speaker 4: he won't. He won't resign there, you know, I understand. Look,

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Speaker 4: I have a young son. I mean if I won't

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Speaker 4: be in the NFL when he's in the NFL, but

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Speaker 4: it would be a very cool and unique opportunity to

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Speaker 4: have that, you know, have that chance. And Lebron's using

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Speaker 4: the leverage he has. Look, he's not He's a smart player.

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Speaker 4: He knows what his son can and can't do. He's

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Speaker 4: using the leverage that he has being lebron James to

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Speaker 4: get his son on his basketball team, like and like,

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Speaker 4: that's nothing, nothing wrong with that. I don't I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Bronny James is going to take a

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Speaker 4: spot from someone who's more deserving getting the twelfth or

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Speaker 4: thirteenth spot on that roster. You know, if he makes

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Speaker 4: a roster, I don't get a two way deal. Maybe

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's I just don't think it's that

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Speaker 4: it will end up being that big of a deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I find it interesting.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about this before, Jeff, where some of these

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Speaker 2: long shot odds where there are some really sharp bets

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Speaker 2: that will say, I mean.

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Speaker 3: The value is just too much to pass up.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think if a better says I think it should

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Speaker 2: be around like one fifty to one that Bronnie's the

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Speaker 2: number one overall pick, and it's two hundred to one,

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Speaker 2: I just can't pass that up.

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Speaker 3: I've always thought that silly.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes me more of a square,

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Speaker 2: but it's like you have to have a legitimate shot

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Speaker 2: of winning whatever bet you place.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I work for Fox Sports as well, covering your gambling.

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Speaker 4: And one thing that you know that they always like

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Speaker 4: us to write about an articles, especially when it comes

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Speaker 4: to futures, is the long shots, right, give me a

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Speaker 4: long shot, MVP, give me a long shot this or not.

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Speaker 4: And I every time I do it, I write basically

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Speaker 4: like I would not tell you to wager on this guy.

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Speaker 4: But if you, if you want to, like you, if

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Speaker 4: you really feel the need to wager on on someone

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Speaker 4: to you know, seven thousand to one to be the MVP,

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Speaker 4: I guess sort of, here's your guy. I've never understood

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Speaker 4: the idea of of value. Your point about the Sharps

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Speaker 4: is a little bit different because they have a system

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Speaker 4: and that's sort of what they do. Or guy cracked,

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Speaker 4: I don't think does that at all. By the way,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he takes a you know, a plus

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Speaker 4: you know, two hundred and one because he feels like

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Speaker 4: I should be one fifty to one. But I certainly

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Speaker 4: know sharps to do that. But the idea of value, right,

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Speaker 4: people think, I think, mistake the da of value and

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Speaker 4: they think it's like the longest odds you can get.

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Speaker 4: To me, that's not what value is. Value is is

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Speaker 4: is taking a wager you think you can win with

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Speaker 4: the odds that are good enough to win, right, Like

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Speaker 4: I never, I just I never understood this, Brian, Like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a plus five thousand over someone who's

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Speaker 4: minus one hundred. Well, the minus one hundred, I probably

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Speaker 4: gonna win. You're gonna win money, Like I never, I

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Speaker 4: just don't understand. Take the money, take the bet you're

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Speaker 4: gonna win. A more chance to win one hundred dollars

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Speaker 4: is one hundred dollars. Like you one hundred dollars. If

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Speaker 4: you win a minus one hundred wager, you bet hundred

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Speaker 4: dollar on it.

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Speaker 2: I have no problem with a long shot bet that

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Speaker 2: has a chance to win. I'm not saying stay away

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Speaker 2: from all long shot bets because there you cash long

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Speaker 2: shots all the time.

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Speaker 4: But what do you consider a lot like like if

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Speaker 4: it's chief super Bowl plus six hunter is not a

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Speaker 4: long shot?

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Speaker 2: No, definitely not. No, that's one of the favorites, you know,

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Speaker 2: is the Chiefs winning a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 2: A long like a long shot that would have a

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Speaker 2: prayer of winning would be something like the Houston Texans right.

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Speaker 4: Long shot anymore?

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Speaker 9: Jeez, or I think I.

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Speaker 3: Think hugheson what are they down to now to win

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Look it up?

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Speaker 3: Oh I thought you had it in front of.

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Speaker 4: All, Look got up. But I mean they move so

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Speaker 4: much after because everyone's everyone's sort of on.

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Speaker 3: How about this?

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Speaker 2: How about this, like, uh, you might disagree with this,

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Speaker 2: but take a team like.

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Speaker 4: Plus six hundred. They're the ninth best odds.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's a bit of a long shot, longer shot.

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Speaker 2: How about Jacksonville where it's like, I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: love the chances of them winning a super Bowl, but

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Speaker 2: they had a winning record. You know, they got Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the light bulb goes on. There's at least a chance.

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Speaker 2: If you go out and you say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna put some money on Bryce Young and

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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers to win a Super Bowl this season,

681
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Speaker 2: It's like, bro, you're just throwing money away. That's the

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Speaker 2: thing with Bronnie James, that's a long shot that has

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Speaker 2: no chance to win if you're betting on him being

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Speaker 2: the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: I know, the combine workout was great, and he's.

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Speaker 2: Moved up spots in the draft boards, and that's fine,

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Speaker 2: but he's not gonna go number one overall. Agent Rich

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Speaker 2: paul I love this. He came out and he said,

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Speaker 2: Bronni will not sign a two way deal, meaning you

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Speaker 2: would split time with a G League team and the

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Speaker 2: NBA team. Number one overall picks are not having to

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Speaker 2: answer that question, you know what I mean? Like that

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Speaker 2: tells you, right, there's there's no chance he's the number one.

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Speaker 4: There's no chance. Are you actually look at the NFL

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Speaker 4: odds right now. I'll give you a team that I

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Speaker 4: think this is what this is in my mind with value. Okay,

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Speaker 4: the Browns are plus four thousand. Okay, for reference teams

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Speaker 4: in AFC, the Jets are plus twenty four hundred, the

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Speaker 4: Dolphins are plus twenty four hundred. The NFC Falles are

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Speaker 4: plus twenty four That's different because the NFC is a

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Speaker 4: little bit easier, right, but the Browns are plus four thousand.

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Speaker 4: I think is a good is a good long shot wager? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like a forty to one that they have a very

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Speaker 4: talented football team.

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Speaker 3: How about their record last year?

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Speaker 2: By the way, Jeff, with all these backup quarterbacks, they

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Speaker 2: won eleven and six.

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Speaker 4: If Deshaun Watson can return to something that looks like

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Speaker 4: what he used to be plus plus four thousand is

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Speaker 4: a really good number, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that's a long shot bet that at

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Speaker 2: least has a chance to win. It's like we get

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Speaker 2: into this with Olympic men's basketball. If you're betting on

714
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Speaker 2: like Lithuania, Okay, they got a shot. If you're betting

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Speaker 2: on like Ghana, it's like, dude, you have no shit.

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Speaker 3: What do you.

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Speaker 2: Ghana is like is like Bronni going number one overall?

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Speaker 3: It's just jeez.

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Speaker 4: That's why the sportsbook build Bill Towers. Man. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's not because people are wagering pennies on the favorites

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Speaker 4: or wagering on Bronnie James or like myself today the

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Speaker 4: plus four thousand Nasca ind because someone text me about it.

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Speaker 4: So I don't even know. Whew it's going. We'll see.

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Speaker 4: I gotta check the standings for this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, That's the thing, man, Vegas and sports books

726
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: they're built on the thought of, like, hey, it could happen,

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Speaker 2: and there are a lot of bets that simply can't

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Speaker 2: happen that will.

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Speaker 3: Happen, right, and you got to know the difference all right.

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Speaker 2: Right around the corner, we get to a very well

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Speaker 2: known athlete, been an MVP before, might look a lot

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Speaker 2: different this season. We'll have some details for you East.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian, Now hang with us right here

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, coming to you live from the

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Speaker 2: tirerack dot Com studios. You know we're gonna call an

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Speaker 2: audible here, Jeff. We'll get to a former MVP that

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Speaker 2: might look a lot different this season. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: it next hour, we promise. But there was a topic

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Speaker 2: just thrown into my lap right here, and I feel

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Speaker 2: it's it's our duty to discuss this.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So Chris Purfett is our technical producer, and he just said,

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Speaker 2: is i'min Ross Saint Brown, a top five receiver in

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Speaker 2: the league right now? Now, mind you, he covers the

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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions very closely. He's had a podcast for a

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Speaker 2: while and it's relocating.

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Speaker 3: It's in the process and doing all.

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Speaker 4: That level right now.

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Speaker 9: And to be fair, I watched the rest of the

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Speaker 9: NFL too. This isn't just a provin, but he has

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Speaker 9: a he.

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Speaker 3: Has a sharp ey for Detroit Lions football.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, and he asked me to is he a top

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Speaker 2: five guy? And you start going through the list, and

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Speaker 2: there's an argument to be made, but I think justin

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Speaker 2: Jefferson Tyreek Hill one two that's on most lists, Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase is right up there with the Bengals. Now here's

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Speaker 2: the interesting part, jeff is would you start your team

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Speaker 2: or would you go into this next season and you

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00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: you're picking teams just for one season. Are you going

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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams? Who's with the Raiders right now? Are you

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Speaker 2: going with Aman Ross Saint Brown? I'm going Davonte Adams.

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Speaker 4: Hmmm, right, So I guess the question is like, well,

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Speaker 4: I mean we're giving devont Adams like a good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's the whole thing is if you play the

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Speaker 2: what if game, you know whatjeroff same same level as I'm.

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Speaker 4: On, I would probably take Davonta Adams.

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Speaker 3: I would take Davonte Adams.

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Speaker 4: That's not I don't think. And here's the thing about rankings.

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Speaker 4: For me, I like doing tiers because I feel like tears,

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of guys are grouped very closely together,

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Speaker 4: and I think like doing tears makes more sense. But

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Speaker 4: if we want to rank them like who would definitely

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Speaker 4: be ahead of almar On st. Brown, justin Jefferson, right,

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Speaker 4: Tyreek Kail? Who else I think I might be, like

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Speaker 4: Jamar Chase is in there as well. I think we

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Speaker 4: now agree with you know, with with with Devanta Adams

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Speaker 4: being ahead of him. Is Stefon Diggs? Probably not.

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Speaker 9: I guess the only competition at that point is either

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Speaker 9: a J. Brown or maybe CD Lamb.

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Speaker 4: The ones I like, I like Ceede Lamb in there.

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Speaker 4: The other, the other one that I think never gets

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Speaker 4: the credit deserves is is Mike Mike Evans. I think

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Speaker 4: Mike Evans is like I mean, he's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. I don't think people don't realize that.

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Speaker 4: That blows your mind. You better hope you're paying attention.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 9: I just wonder what we do with Saint Brown and

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00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 9: that the one thing he really can't do is go

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Speaker 9: that deep route, take the top offs like what Jefferson.

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Speaker 9: But everything else he does is yards after complex or everything,

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Speaker 9: even the blocking he will throw for running like everything

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Speaker 9: is there.

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Speaker 4: He's been my one of my favorites. Every year I

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Speaker 4: do a podcast previewing every division for gambling purposes. He's

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Speaker 4: been our favorite over wager every year. Now we can't

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Speaker 4: do it anymore because you just you just can't. You're

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Speaker 4: not gonna be able to get there, right, Like, there's

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Speaker 4: gonna be too many people that take Sam Brown overs now.

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Speaker 4: But you're right, like, I don't know if he'll ever

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Speaker 4: be in that top tier because he's not a kind

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Speaker 4: of like, hey, I'll throw the ball as far as

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Speaker 4: you can, you'll be down there wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, you look at Ceedee Lamb's numbers last year, they're insane.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we focused on it that much because

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill was just going ballistic at the beginning of

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Speaker 2: the season. But Ceedee Lamb finished with one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty five catches for about seventeen fifty and twelve touchdowns.

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Speaker 9: That's an insane So he's third on that list three

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Speaker 9: yards though.

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Speaker 3: I know there.

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Speaker 2: But that's where we get to the what if territory.

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Speaker 2: What if amen Ra had Jimmy Garoppolo and Aidan O'Connell well,

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Speaker 2: like like Devontae Adams had last season.

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Speaker 9: Uh, we can also do this the other way though,

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Speaker 9: like because Jared Goff really like he's getting better with

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Speaker 9: throwing some deep passes. But what if he had a

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Speaker 9: quarterback who could really throw him deep?

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Speaker 4: Though? But that's that's But I think it's not like

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Speaker 4: if you look at the Lions offense, you say Jam,

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Speaker 4: you say James. He's like the deep threat, right, like

824
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Speaker 4: you choose the kind of where they go. He's the

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Speaker 4: deep threat guy. I think he's in Like I think

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Speaker 4: in Tier two, I think I look at Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: Chance outside but really good?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: Coming up next? Are we too critical of this squad?

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Speaker 2: Are we too negative when it comes to this squad

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Speaker 2: that is coming up? We are broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: By the way, Jeff, we got some puck action going

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Speaker 2: on here, four to four tie with under five minutes

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Speaker 2: to go in game three. A lot of people thought

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Speaker 2: this would be a low scoring game, right, First game

840
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: was three to nothing, second game two to one. Now

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00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: boom goals galore, four to four here, so we're guaranteed

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00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: at least nine goals in this thing craziness.

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Speaker 4: I like it. More goals better, right, I mean, do

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Speaker 4: you like watching games like that or do you like

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00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: watching games where.

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Speaker 3: Oh I like it? Yeah? You like crazy goal? Yeah,

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00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: I like the crazy goal action. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: It's not good if you're on the Yankees, which I

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Speaker 2: might be. The Padres take the lead, They've scored two

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Speaker 2: runs in the bottom of the sixth. They're up to

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Speaker 2: one over here, Jeff, a horrible error to start the

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Speaker 2: inning and it's just gone downhill. Are you a fan

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Speaker 2: of the suicide squeeze or the safety squeeze, because I

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Speaker 2: think they went safety squad.

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Speaker 3: He's on this one here.

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Speaker 4: You gotta go suicide squeeze all or nothing. I was

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Speaker 4: about to tweet this out Brian, and I haven't yet

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Speaker 4: at Jeff Schwartz, but I might soon. We both watch

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Speaker 4: a lot of baseball. We have our favorite teams. Actually

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Speaker 4: stop watching the Giants because they're just their mind. They

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Speaker 4: just I can't do it, even though the last six

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00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 4: schemes have all been decided in the eighth and ninth

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Speaker 4: inning in both directions. But when you watch a lot

864
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Speaker 4: of baseball, as we do because of our gambling habits,

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Speaker 4: you see weird stuff happen all the time, like it

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Speaker 4: is the amount of bad baseball, and this is part

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Speaker 4: of the sport. It's why the sport's so unique. And

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Speaker 4: just like random nonsense. Man, it is crazy how much

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00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 4: random crud happens. I don't know what I can sayd

870
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 4: to intrust you our radio. It just it is. It's

871
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: so weird, man, It's just this is just a lot

872
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 4: of odd baseball every day.

873
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, man, if you're talking about odd things happening,

874
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: hockey's got to be at the top of the list.

875
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: But I would say baseball is right behind that because hockey, bro,

876
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: you just shoot the puck toward the net. It could

877
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: bounce off a guy's shoulder, hit somebody else's beard.

878
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: Gold.

879
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, how did that? They talk about

880
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: puck luck and baseball is absolutely crazy random, There's no

881
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: doubt about that. But it is up that you just

882
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: can't even predict.

883
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 5: Man.

884
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: And then also to baseball, same with hockey, you know,

885
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: like the presumed favorites sometimes you know, Dodgers struggle a

886
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: little bit. We just we've told you know, we had

887
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: some of you know, the the Braves with with the

888
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: hood injury, like yeah, it is, you know the favorite

889
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: sometimes you know, it's hard to hard to win baseball

890
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 4: and is all.

891
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 3: That pressure, Yeah, no doubt.

892
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: How about this good segue, right, think about the Boston

893
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,479
Speaker 2: Celtics and a bit of pressure because we're always looking

894
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: at the Celtics for what they don't do well, because

895
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: our expectations are so high for them. They wont night,

896
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: they won Game three, They're up three to nothing in

897
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: a series. You know as well as I do, Jeff,

898
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of people that say, well,

899
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: you had Halliburton who didn't play in Game three. Look

900
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: at the first two series in the playoffs and no

901
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, no Jimmy Butler right there.

902
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: And I think that.

903
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: This has been an ongoing thing where more times than not,

904
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: a lot of the media and a lot of the

905
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 2: talking heads, they'll look at what Boston doesn't do well

906
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: instead of what they actually do well, and you blink in,

907
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: they're one game away from another finals trip, and whoever

908
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: comes out of the West Boston has more than a

909
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: shot to end up winning a championship here.

910
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 4: I think some of the Boston talk is we talk

911
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 4: about Boston a lot of times, or they're portrayed by

912
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 4: the media. I'm not gonna say, you know, every like

913
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 4: like they are multiple time champions and they're not. I

914
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: think a lot of pushback is from this idea that

915
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: we talk about them like that they are good, they're

916
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: reaching another conference finals. This group has not won championships yet,

917
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 4: and a lot of people talk about them. I feel

918
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: like a little bit in that light of like they

919
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: are going to win, they have won their favorite like,

920
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: we talk about them very glowingly for a team that

921
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 4: hasn't won a championship. I mean, that's part of it,

922
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: But do you agree there's a little that's it's very positive.

923
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 4: The way the media talks about the Celtics a lot

924
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: with the team that I get has it won a championship.

925
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: I think that I think that the expectations are so high.

926
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: I'll put it this way. When they lost to.

927
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: The Warriors, they got there on the cusp of winning

928
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: a championship, didn't get it done. That's when they became

929
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: championship or bust. Yeah, that's where they're at, and so

930
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: that's how we view them. Ask yourself this, the teams

931
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: in the West, do we look at that Dallas or

932
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves, as championship or bus teams. No, no, we don't.

933
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: It's that we look at that and Dallas.

934
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 4: Probably probably totally. I think another thing too again, I hate,

935
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: I hate going back to this sort of this talking point,

936
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: but a lot of it comes down to Jason Tatum

937
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: and the way that people feel about him is the

938
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: way sometimes we talk about the Celtics team and whether

939
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: that's fair unfair. I think that drives a lot in

940
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 4: the narrative where we talk about Minnesota in a certain

941
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 4: way because of Anthony Edwards, we talk about Dallas in

942
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: a certain way because of of Luca. I think we

943
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: look at the Celtics and you default oft into talking

944
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 4: about the the superstar, which is which is supposed to

945
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 4: be Tatum, which I think is Tatum. I think that that,

946
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: I think is partly why the talk about the Celtics

947
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 4: feels a certain way different than other their other organizations.

948
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, it's a little bit of a

949
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: i don't know, like a Dallas Cowboys type thing where

950
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: they have the rich history. Right, the Celtics have the

951
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: most championships. The Cowboys are right behind the Patriots. The

952
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: Cowboys have five championships, you know, so there's this mystique, right,

953
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: there's this history, it's the Boston Celtics, the park, k

954
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: floor like all that type of stuff. Yeah, I think

955
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: that factors into it. But man, the here and now,

956
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: when it's Tatum and Brown and they've been so close

957
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: to a championship, they haven't gotten over the hump. I

958
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: think we just look at what they don't do well

959
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: instead of what they do bring to the table. Where

960
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: I'd put this example out there, Jeff, think about Game one,

961
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 2: the win against the Pacers, where the Pacers definitely did

962
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: screw up down the stretch. They couldn't inbound the ball

963
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: with ten seconds to go, and then the Pacers didn't

964
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: foul and Jalen Brown nailed the corner three and the

965
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Celtics won in overtime. I think if Minnesota is winning

966
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: a game the same way, I don't think we're looking

967
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: at this like, oh, they're so lucky that they escaped

968
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 2: and that was just a lucky win and blah blah blah.

969
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: I think we're looking at it it's like, oh, Anthony

970
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: Edwards and look at this team, these young phenoms and

971
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: that type of thing. I think that Boston is no

972
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: longer the bright and shiny toy. They're the team that's

973
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: championship or bust. And if they have a stinker, which

974
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: they have a couple of times at home in the playoffs, man,

975
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: we go freaking crazy. But it really just shows us

976
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: that we expect a ton, Otherwise we wouldn't react that way.

977
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 4: We do expect a lot, and they play a maddening

978
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: style of basketball, even though they score a bunch of

979
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: points and still win a lot of games, Brian, which

980
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: I think adds the discussion right because you watch them

981
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 4: play sometimes and I think my local j C has

982
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 4: a better run offense. At times offensively you're like, what

983
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 4: are you guys doing? Why are you standing five out

984
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 4: dribbling for twenty seconds and taking a terrible shot like that?

985
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: I think is what is so madding about them is

986
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 4: that they're they're really good, obviously, like they're fantastic, They're

987
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 4: gonna be an Eastern Conference championship winner, and yet there's

988
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 4: like so much where you're like, jeez, it can be

989
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 4: so much better. There's so much more to be done here.

990
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: If you're Boston and you look at again, with Cleveland

991
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: being out Mitchell, Boston sort of lolligag through that game,

992
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: Holliburton being out Boston's are you know, lolligag through that

993
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: game last night? And with expectation is so high, I

994
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: think you expect a little bit better play, quite honestly,

995
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: and they just have moments where you're like, what are

996
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: you guys doing? How is this the team that's gonna

997
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: win a championship? Because because it's your point, we view

998
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: them through through the lens of this is the championship

999
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 4: our bus team. If you run an offense like you're running,

1000
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: you're not winning a championship this way, right, And again,

1001
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 4: the Tatum thing kind of sticks in my mind, Brian,

1002
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 4: because he's a fantastic point He had thirty six, ten

1003
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 4: and eight yesterday. Watch the game. You don't think that,

1004
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 4: do you. You look at him, you're like your times,

1005
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 4: You're like, it's it's he had thirty six points, ten rebounds,

1006
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 4: eight assist. Jason Jason, I watch play did all that.

1007
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: It's not a forceful I know, this is picking. You know,

1008
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 4: this is kind of like nitpicking, right, It's not like

1009
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 4: a forceful game from him yesterday when Indiana went on

1010
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 4: their big run middle seven quarter to the end of

1011
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: the third quarter. I mean he had like six points. Like,

1012
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: he doesn't. He doesn't just take the ball and say, Okay,

1013
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 4: I'm taking this game over. I'm gonna be the guy

1014
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: that wins us for my team. And he does. He

1015
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 4: does at times. He did overtime games too, right, But

1016
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: I think that's part of the narrative about Boston and

1017
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 4: why we feel a certain way about them is because

1018
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: they're Superstar is not as old enough, by the way

1019
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 4: to be a go getter, right, He's not Anthony Edwards,

1020
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 4: and he just there's times he just doesn't do it

1021
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 4: and you're like, man, like, come on, Tatum, like be

1022
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 4: the alpha, be the guy, get it done. And that

1023
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 4: to me is I think part of the discussion about

1024
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: him about the Celtics, it's just it's from the Tatum discussion.

1025
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: I think that Doris Burke said this last night.

1026
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: At one point the Indiana offense, they're just cutting and

1027
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: moving and there's ball movement, and I remember at the

1028
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: time thinking she's right, and why don't the Celtics do that?

1029
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: You know, so frustrating Brian, Yeah.

1030
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: Because the ball just sticks sometimes or like Samwser, who

1031
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: cannot hit a three for me?

1032
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: Oh killing me?

1033
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: My goodness, I keep backing this guy brick airball. This

1034
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: guy's a really good three point shooter. He can't buy

1035
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: one in the series. He's over. But anyway, Sam Hauser

1036
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: or Al Horford, who was magnificent last night, they'll just

1037
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: park themselves in the corner and they'll just stand there

1038
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: and that's it. That's their offense. And it's too ISO heavy.

1039
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: There's just not enough movement. Sometimes it's just Tatum dribbling

1040
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: the ball and he's like, all right, there's seven seconds left.

1041
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: I guess I'll create a shot for myself. And that's

1042
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: their set. And I'm like, they remind me a bit

1043
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: of the Warriors with Mark Jackson. That offense did not

1044
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: look the same as it does with Steve Kerr, where

1045
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 2: there's way more movement, there are cuts, there are screens,

1046
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: there's passing. I just wish I could see Boston with

1047
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: a lot more movement. I'm not against ISO basketball, Jeff,

1048
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: but they rely on it way too heavy where I

1049
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: want to see him move around and move the ball more.

1050
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 2: I think they'd get a lot more easier shots. They

1051
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: just don't do it.

1052
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: They don't, and maybe it's the head coach. I mean,

1053
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: there are times I look at them, and I think

1054
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 4: to myself, it's a head coach. You're gonna tell them

1055
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: to like move like like is there like a motion offense.

1056
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 4: I'm not a basketbok. The only play I recognized last

1057
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 4: night that could call out was when the Pacers ran

1058
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: switch rub on the final play of the game in

1059
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 4: a football formation to get Niemi, which is great. It

1060
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 4: was a great shot. We were texting about the Celtics

1061
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 4: having to foul. There's there's no way they're gonna not

1062
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 4: foul after game one, right like they have to fail,

1063
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 4: they have to fild, that have to foul, and lo

1064
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 4: and behold they ran a play where you couldn't foil.

1065
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a fantastic play. But I'm like,

1066
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 4: I know a little bit enough to like move like motion,

1067
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 4: move move around, do something, don't just stand there and

1068
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 4: and wait for the ball to come to you then

1069
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 4: chuck up a bad shot. That's why I think could

1070
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 4: by the expectations just maddening to watch them, man, it is. Oh,

1071
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 4: it's a tough watching timas, especially when you wager on them.

1072
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 4: It's just bad.

1073
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: It can be.

1074
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: And then there are other times where you might fade

1075
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: them and they show it's not just their talent, yeah,

1076
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: but it's every they put it all together and you're like, wow,

1077
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: they really don't have hardly any weaknesses. And they're doing

1078
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: all this without Porzingis, you know, like they get Porzingis back. Man,

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Speaker 2: you're cooking with grease. They're going to be a tough

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Speaker 2: out in the finals with whoever they face.

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Speaker 4: It feels like fading. I would I don't think the Celtics.

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Speaker 4: I might not wager on them in a game, but

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Speaker 4: I'm not waging against them because your point like, they

1084
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: can just have these stretch runs where they are unstoppable. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and everyone's and again, this is the manning part is

1086
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: they do have lots of periods of games where they

1087
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: look incredible offense. And we saw i think the fourth

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00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 4: quarter last night. We were talking about this via text message.

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Speaker 4: They just decided to play better defense, and the better

1090
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 4: defense led to easier baskets. And those are all things

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Speaker 4: that we want to see them do more often, and

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00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 4: whatever reason, they just don't sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I'll say this real fast, is if

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Speaker 2: you compare Boston to Minnesota, I wonder if this is

1095
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: a bit of Boston experience. I don't know, it's either

1096
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: they're lazy at times, they're lackadaisical at times. The first

1097
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: half against the Pacers, they weren't defending nearly as well.

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00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: As the second half. It was night and day.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if the first half is more

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Speaker 2: so the Celtics just being kind of stupid and going

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00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: through the motions, which it could be a portion of that,

1102
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 2: or some of it is experience where you see Minnesota

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00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: at times they're just hitting a freaking wall. It is

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00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: hard to go that hard defensively for that long and

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00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: Boston just they can play top notch defense, but it's

1106
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: not like they're gonna do that from the opening tip

1107
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: the whole game, right, and you're seeing that could actually

1108
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: be a good thing in the long run, as long

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00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: as you lock in the way they did last night

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Speaker 2: in Game three.

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Speaker 3: I don't know you understand what I'm saying though, right.

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Speaker 4: I think Boston knows they can turn it on, which

1113
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 4: is a dangerous thing. Yeah. I mean, I took him

1114
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 4: live last night in the fourth quarter because I was like,

1115
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 4: this is not gonna lose this game, you know, and

1116
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: they didn't. Minnesota is not able to do that yet. Plus, look,

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00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 4: Boston is supremely talented offensively, Minnesota's not. I mean, they're talented,

1118
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 4: but they're not. They don't have a Derek White to

1119
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 4: put up thirty points in a game, right. They don't

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Speaker 4: have Al Horford. I mean Noasreta did seven three's last game.

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Speaker 4: But they don't have all the guys that can score.

1122
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: And you know, Peyton Pritchard scores enough points for them,

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Speaker 4: they don't. They don't have that guy off the bench,

1124
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Speaker 4: so they can't score as much, which I think limits

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Speaker 4: Minnesota sometimes for a defensive minded team when they get

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Speaker 4: in a rut, they don't have really a way to

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00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 4: get out of the rut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you. Hey, let's turn our attention

1129
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Speaker 2: to ball over here. Yeah, we got some football conversation

1130
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Speaker 2: with our main man, Adam Kaplan FSR NFL Insider. A

1131
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: lot to get to with cap. Make sure you check

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Speaker 2: it out. That's right around the corner. He's Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian No. We're live from the tirec dot Com

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Speaker 2: studios here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian No. He's

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz here on Fox Sports Radio. We're coming to

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Speaker 2: you live from the TIREC dot com Studios. Please to

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00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: welcome in Adam Kaplan FSR NFL Insider Inside the Birds podcast.

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00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: You know, we're listening to some slim shady over here.

1139
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: Cap you know, little eminem and I have to ask

1140
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: you about slim Lamar Huh, Lamar Jackson slimming down.

1141
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: He's lost at least ten pounds. Yeah, and he says

1142
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 3: he wants to move around a little bit extra, That's

1143
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Speaker 3: what he said.

1144
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Speaker 2: What do you think about that, uh, that approach? You

1145
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: like Lamar slimming down or you think the extra weight

1146
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: might be a might be a good thing for the

1147
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: durability concerns there.

1148
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 13: Yeah, Quarterbacks typically do this over the course of the career.

1149
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 13: They as they get older, they reshaped their bodies. Lamari

1150
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 13: first round pick of twenty eighteen, and boy, I mean

1151
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 13: he's he came in, you know, very slender, if you remember,

1152
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 13: and he's kind of built his body up. But the

1153
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 13: cool story about this is now and we when we

1154
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 13: talk about Lamar Jackson's development, He's never worked with her,

1155
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 13: he's never had a workhorse back in back of him.

1156
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Speaker 3: So this is going to be pretty remarkable.

1157
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 13: And let's not forget in the fact that there were

1158
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 13: some of us knew this is probably gonna happen. I

1159
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 13: really thought that they were. They were deep in talk

1160
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 13: with the Titans at the trade deadline. I thought that

1161
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 13: the trade was going to happen and wound up not happening.

1162
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 13: So they wanted this guy, and it's gonna look different.

1163
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 13: I do wonder, guys, how much Lamar Jackson will run

1164
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 13: comparatively to a few two past seasons.

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Speaker 4: Adam, Are you also in the best ship of your

1166
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: life like all the NFL players?

1167
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Speaker 3: I was?

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Speaker 13: I actually was, you know, since you probably, Jeff, I

1169
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 13: was two fifty when I left ESPM.

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Speaker 3: I'm down about two ten. Yeah. Well, look, but I

1171
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: needed to at my age.

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Speaker 13: It didn't work. But as you know, Jeff, as you

1173
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 13: get older, you gotta be careful. It's a little bit

1174
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 13: hard to get in shape.

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Speaker 4: Is I love this time of the year because those

1176
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 4: stories I think fascinating. Everybody looks great, Yeah, every player

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00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 4: comes back. Is there a favorite one outside of lamarme

1178
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 4: to have lost weight?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I got you some rookies in the best shape of

1181
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Speaker 4: their life. Is there one that that that's caught your attention?

1182
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly I would.

1183
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 13: Well, here, I'll give you one, just because I've known

1184
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 13: about this and it's the section pretty it could be significant.

1185
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a big year for Jordan.

1186
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 13: Davis, the Eagles first round over the trade up four

1187
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 13: two years ago. Jordan Davis is like he came in,

1188
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 13: Let's call it like it is. When he was drafted,

1189
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 13: he was not good enough shape and he didn't play

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Speaker 13: a ton of snaps at Georgia. He was not used

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Speaker 13: to this kind of environment in the National Football League,

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00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 13: and he came in out of shape, had a very

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Speaker 13: bad rookie season.

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Speaker 3: Let's call it like it is.

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Speaker 13: And last year you saw really growth in the first half,

1196
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Speaker 13: fell off again with everything we I've been told for

1197
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Speaker 13: the last few months. He looks great, conditioning seems to

1198
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Speaker 13: be pretty good.

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Speaker 3: But Jeff, you could speak to it better than I.

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Speaker 13: I don't understand how a guy could be have good

1201
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 13: being good condition and around week six or seven, all

1202
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 13: of a sudden, looks like he's losing his technique. He's

1203
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 13: getting stood up as a defensive line, which is always bad.

1204
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 13: So I don't understand how that could happen. But you

1205
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Speaker 13: would know more more about that than I would as

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Speaker 13: an NFL player.

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Speaker 4: Well, so, because here's here's I think why. You know,

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Speaker 4: the off season, you're spend a lot of time with

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Speaker 4: your trainings, you know, with your your personal trainer, with

1210
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 4: the guy you're at a facility, and when you go

1211
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Speaker 4: back to the team, it's up to you. And a

1212
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Speaker 4: lot of teams, you know, they're not they're not they

1213
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Speaker 4: don't they have nutrition us, but they're not with you,

1214
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Speaker 4: sort of like your personal trainer would be, right, your

1215
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Speaker 4: person nutritionists, they're not living with you or checking in

1216
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Speaker 4: with you. You know, when you go home at night

1217
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: and you're in Philly, like it's up to you to

1218
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Speaker 4: make sure to eat correctly and and not not have

1219
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Speaker 4: weighted use. I mean, the Eagles just signed someone to

1220
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Speaker 4: play offensive waw who you know sort of had these

1221
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Speaker 4: problems in New York like it. That's that was my

1222
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Speaker 4: problem too, buddy, I was a I gained weight during

1223
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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 3: Here's also really in season. Really here's why.

1225
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Speaker 4: Well, here's what a couple of pounds, not like I

1226
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 4: gained like thirty pounds. It's just harder to make weight

1227
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: every week when you get older older, and then also

1228
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 4: later in the season because you've also practiced much less

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Speaker 4: after week eight. If you put pads on. You're not

1230
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 4: even allowed to after week thirteen. But you know, you

1231
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 4: practice less, you move a little bit less. The winter

1232
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 4: months come, you might want to have a little heartier

1233
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 4: dinner because it's cold outside. Like you have to figure

1234
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 4: out as a player, and Jordan Davis has to figure

1235
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Speaker 4: this out, that balance right between I like to eat,

1236
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 4: I certainly love to eat and what's healthy for my

1237
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 4: body during the season.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and you know, I know players hire nutritious and

1239
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 13: so forth, but it is troubling when a guy that

1240
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 13: the Eagles put so much into resources wise, they made

1241
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 13: a major trade two years ago to trade up to

1242
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 13: get them because super freak Atholetice. You don't see guys

1243
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 13: three fifty through sixty move like that. And I know

1244
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 13: he's less than that now, but you just hope it lasts.

1245
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 13: But yeah, it is true, you know, hope springs eternal.

1246
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 13: You see this in every market. This player came into

1247
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 13: best shape of his career. It doesn't again, we're in May.

1248
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Speaker 13: It doesn't seem to mean much. It's like when you

1249
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 13: fast forward to the season, then you see how long

1250
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Speaker 13: it lasts.

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Speaker 2: He's Adam Kaplan FSR NFL Insider. How about the Chain

1252
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: Gang probably gone here so optical cracking. Yeah, you're okay

1253
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: with this?

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Speaker 13: Huh, Well, this has been talked about in the league

1255
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Speaker 13: that this has been on their back burner. Because a billion,

1256
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Speaker 13: multi billion dollar league, the richest in American professional sports,

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Speaker 13: uses a chain to measure it's just absurd. So the

1258
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Speaker 13: fact that they're doing this and how this, I know

1259
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Speaker 13: it's a test in the preseason. If this doesn't work,

1260
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Speaker 13: I mean, you can push the member with a feather.

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Speaker 13: This has to work. I can't believe that this has

1262
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 13: not been a bigger deal. I'm kind of surprised that

1263
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 13: it's not going to more talk than it has because

1264
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Speaker 13: clubs have always wanted this. They don't want it done

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Speaker 13: with a chain. It's ridiculous. Yeah, and with the eye tech.

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Speaker 13: I mean, you've gotta be kidding me. It's shirt anyway.

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Speaker 4: This will be fun to actually to if you want

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Speaker 4: it to ever, beacause the chains are actually used far

1269
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Speaker 4: less than we think. I think people assume they're used

1270
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Speaker 4: a ton of times on a weekend. They're actually not.

1271
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Speaker 4: The Only issue I have with this, Adam is.

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Speaker 3: Get it wrong. Though they get it wrong way too much.

1273
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Speaker 4: How do you determine well that actually change they actually

1274
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 4: spot the ball. It's kind of interesting now they kind

1275
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 4: of move the ball to the nearest yard, Like if

1276
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 4: you get a first down, you're between two yards, they

1277
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Speaker 4: move it up a little bit to the previous yard,

1278
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 4: or if you're like a football over, they move it back.

1279
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Speaker 4: So they have less measurements now, right, it's the full

1280
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 4: ten yards from ten yard to ten yards, so there's

1281
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Speaker 4: less measurements. The thing that the question I have for you,

1282
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 4: and maybe you have an answer for this, is how

1283
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 4: are they going to know when someone's down to know

1284
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: when to spot the ball, because that's part of the process,

1285
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 4: or you have to know when that player is down

1286
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 4: to know where that ball is on the field, right.

1287
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Speaker 13: And the thing is I do wonder, because we see

1288
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Speaker 13: this in other sports, is will they use replay what's

1289
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Speaker 13: going to happen here to make sure they get it

1290
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 13: right in certain situations. So we don't know a lot

1291
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 13: about it yet because the league is not sent I

1292
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 13: know there's been some reporting on it, we have not

1293
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 13: gotten briefed yet. The last thing we got briefed al

1294
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 13: was the schedule and how they came up with it.

1295
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 13: That was about two and a half weeks ago. With

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01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 13: Mike North from the NFL. We got a pretty good

1297
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 13: idea of why certain team's got primetime games or not.

1298
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 13: But we're going, I'm sure knowing the way the league

1299
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 13: does this because they want to make sure we get

1300
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 13: it right from the media standpoint, how they came up

1301
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 13: with it, how that's going to be dealt with, what

1302
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 13: has to happen for to stick. But this is something

1303
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 13: like you can't be wrong on measurements. This is like,

1304
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 13: this is not acceptable. I don't care if it's one

1305
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 13: time per game or five. It's unacceptable that the amount

1306
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 13: of mistakes have been made over the years. And this

1307
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 13: has been long over there. We're kind of shocked that

1308
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 13: it's taken this long.

1309
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Cap, we threw this out

1310
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: there last hour. We're looking at the top five wide

1311
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 2: receivers right now in the NFL, and we're debating is

1312
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: Amana Saint Brown in the top five, and we threw

1313
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: out names like Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, Jamar Chase Davante, Adams,

1314
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 2: AJ Brown.

1315
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 3: C D Lamb some of those guys.

1316
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 2: Do you think that Amen Ra is a bona fide

1317
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 2: top five guy right here right now?

1318
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 13: No, But I would say my top ten and one

1319
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 13: of the all time stories and one of the things

1320
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 13: I love about him, and I don't think this will change.

1321
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 3: You know, he got his mega extension and he.

1322
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 13: Still has not forgot about the teams that passed on him,

1323
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 13: which is pretty cool. And you know, his dad was

1324
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 13: a bodybuilder. Comes from a very interesting family background. Been

1325
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 13: a great story, to be honest with you. It's one

1326
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 13: of the reasons why the Lines have turned around their

1327
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 13: program is how well at Homes their general manager has

1328
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 13: done in drafting. Really and quite frankly, when I got

1329
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 13: the job, you know, he had never been their personnel director,

1330
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 13: was the college director. Was kind of surprising. But when

1331
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 13: you look at it, I'm on Rossling brownos terrific. He's

1332
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 13: mostly an inside receiver, but phenomenal.

1333
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: Boy.

1334
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 13: If we were putting together like our top twenty, I'm

1335
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 13: going to or top fifteen, He's somewhere between for me,

1336
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 13: like eight and twelve. It's just a matter of what

1337
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 13: you want in receiver. Tyreek Hill has got to be one,

1338
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 13: two or three. It's hard to not put aj Brown

1339
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 13: in your top three or four though that I mean,

1340
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 13: I don't know what else. The guy's got to do.

1341
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 13: He was in a non passing offense with Tennessee and

1342
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 13: where they throw the ball in Philly. He's kind of unstoppable.

1343
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: No, he is.

1344
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: He's electric, man, there's no doubt about that. Well, hey, Cap,

1345
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: I always appreciate your time. Man, Hope you have a

1346
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: good evening. What do you have going on tonight? Your

1347
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: little Timberwolves Mavericks?

1348
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I know.

1349
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 13: I'm so disappointed. I'm going to get that series wrong.

1350
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 13: I cannot believe it. I'm stunned. And obviously I give

1351
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 13: Dallas credit for that last win. Didn't see that coming.

1352
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 13: But these playoffs has been very interesting. Denver didn't get

1353
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 13: the job done, which stunned me.

1354
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: They didn't. They didn't close it out like I thought

1355
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: they would. It's it's the NBA playoffs, man. I like

1356
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 3: it this year.

1357
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 13: In that right when you think you know what's gonna happen,

1358
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 13: the opposite happens, which is kind of cool.

1359
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 3: It is. Yeah, no doubt. Well, hey Cap, we'll catch

1360
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: you soon, man, have a good evening you two. Thanks there.

1361
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: He is Adam Kaplan FSR NFL Insider Inside the Birds Podcast.

1362
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: All right, we've got kay dub with us Kevin Wirt

1363
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: the goalies were not standing on their heads today.

1364
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: But we have an outcome here, Yes we do.

1365
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 9: Ryan Lindgren the hero of the game.

1366
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 10: He gives the New York Rangers the win in overtime

1367
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 10: against the Florida Panthers five to four, nine goals of

1368
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 10: this game, Man, I hope you had the over in

1369
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 10: this one, five to four the final as the New

1370
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 10: York Rangers now take a two to one lead in

1371
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 10: this best of seven Eastern A Conference Final, or about

1372
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 10: ninety minutes away from tipping off in the NBA Western

1373
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 10: Conference Final Game three Timberwolves and Mavericks. Dallas is ahead

1374
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 10: in this series two games and then tip off set

1375
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 10: for a little after eight o'clock Eastern time. Indy five

1376
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 10: hundred action going on right now. Scott McLaughlin in the

1377
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 10: lead after one hundred and sixteen laps, although things look

1378
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 10: like they're being stopped right now another crash on the course.

1379
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 10: This race was delayed by several hours because of equipment weather.

1380
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 10: There were thunderstorms in the area, severe thunderstorms, and eventually

1381
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 10: they were able to get the track dried and the

1382
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 10: race going at four forty four Eastern time. They were

1383
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 10: hoping to get at least one hundred and one laps

1384
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 10: in that makes the race official. And now they're at

1385
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 10: lap one sixteen out of two hundred, Scott McLaughlin again

1386
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 10: in the lead. They're at what they call the greatest

1387
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 10: spectacle in racing Major League Baseball. It was an eventful

1388
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 10: day and it was not a good event for the

1389
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 10: Atlanta Braves.

1390
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: You could see them attending to that left naque leftne Yeah.

1391
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 11: Of course, the Braves have struggled with injuries this season.

1392
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 11: Now the Raining MVP Ronald d'acunya junior limps off gingerly

1393
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 11: favoring that.

1394
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 10: Leplet Ronald m'cunya junior suffering a non contact injury to

1395
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 10: his knee, that call coming courteously at bally Sports South.

1396
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 10: So he was on the base past his knee buckle.

1397
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 10: He was on the ground holding it in pain and

1398
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 10: had to be helped off the field. And that very

1399
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 10: well could be a major blow as the Braves could

1400
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 10: be without the raining and National League MVP. As they're

1401
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 10: looking up at the Phillies and the National LEAGUEE standings.

1402
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 10: There's seven games behind entering today's slate of action Tigers

1403
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 10: and Blue Jays. This game had twenty five runs combined

1404
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 10: scored and several lead changes, and it ended up the

1405
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 10: Tigers ended up winning it in walk off fashion.

1406
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 3: Fair Lank swings.

1407
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 7: Sky's at Deep black Field.

1408
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 3: This is not coming back, Matt.

1409
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 11: Fear letting up Bob and.

1410
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 13: The Tigers walk it off for eight.

1411
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 10: Eleven final score, Matt Vierling breaking that eleven eleven high

1412
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 10: in that bomb of the ninth to give the Tigers

1413
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 10: the victory. The Cincinnati Raids sweep the Dodgers, winning Game

1414
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 10: three of this series four to one in Cincinnati. Red

1415
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 10: Sox win a Pictures duel at Fenway against the Brewers two.

1416
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 10: Won the final there. Mariners top to Nationals in the

1417
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 10: Nation's Capital nine to five, raised over the Royals four

1418
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 10: to one. The Mets come from behind to beat the

1419
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 10: Giants on an Omar Navarrees walk off hit for the Mets.

1420
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 10: They win at four to three. Orioles and White Sox,

1421
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 10: that game was delayed by a couple hours, but eventually

1422
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 10: Baltimore does win at four to one. In the South Side,

1423
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 10: Rangers and Twins, the defending champions have been having a

1424
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 10: difficult last couple of weeks. By Corey Sieger with a

1425
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 10: two run home run to help the Rangers beat the

1426
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 10: Twins six to two, Rockies over the Phillies five to two,

1427
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 10: and the Astros beat the Athletics five to two. Three

1428
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 10: games in action right now, Padres in Yankees down at

1429
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 10: Petco Park at San Diego, leading at five to one.

1430
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 10: Bomb of the seventh inning, over in the desert at

1431
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 10: the Marlins, on top of the Diamondbacks three one, Guardians

1432
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 10: on top of the Angels five to four, bottom the

1433
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 10: ninth over in Anaheim.

1434
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, thank you, Kay Dub

1435
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: Brian No and Jeff Schwartz with the Hero on Fox

1436
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

1437
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 4: Brian, Yeah, can we talk about that final goal the

1438
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,799
Speaker 4: next I mean the next that the Rangers just scored?

1439
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1440
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 4: Sure, I mean how does how does he do that?

1441
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 4: The puck is hit from like the blue line all

1442
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 4: the way to the goal and my man just stuck

1443
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 4: his stick out like a bunt. It just bunted the puck.

1444
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 4: The hand eye coordination, I'm just impressed by the hand

1445
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 4: arch gineration. It's an elite level of hand eye coordination.

1446
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, man, it's uh they make it look easy,

1447
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: but that's not easy hockey. I know it is it,

1448
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 2: but that's the thing with hockey again, the most random stuff.

1449
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: You'll see these goals and you're like, I, I typically

1450
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 2: don't see goals like that or plays like that. It's

1451
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: just hockey, man, That's part of the charm of it.

1452
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: It's just a weird sport.

1453
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 4: And there's no way the goal we can doing about

1454
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 4: this either. He was standing right in front of him.

1455
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 4: I mean hit, and I mean it. It was. It

1456
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 4: was incredible. So the Rangers go up to one.

1457
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 2: Oh man, I had uh, I had the Stars in

1458
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: game one. Jeff goes to overtime. The Stars have a shot,

1459
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 2: They've got a four minute power play, and they have

1460
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: a shot on net. The crowd goes crazy that I'm

1461
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: telling you, Jeff. The crowd like literally jumped in the

1462
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: air simultaneously like goal, we win, and I'm like, sweet,

1463
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: I win my bet off the post?

1464
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 4: No goal, Well, they had a four minute power plane

1465
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:40,799
Speaker 4: did not score.

1466
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: Not they did not score.

1467
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: No.

1468
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not ideal.

1469
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 3: No, it's not hit.

1470
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: They hit the post twice, So it worked out hit

1471
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 2: the post twice, yeah, not good.

1472
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 4: At least I did and miss another three.

1473
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: Yes, freaking Sam Hauser man, Sam Houser, gonna hit a

1474
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: three in the series that I only have one more

1475
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:01,679
Speaker 2: game left.

1476
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna bet on again tomorrow. I might do. I

1477
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 4: might do like an alt like a plus four, like

1478
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 4: if it hit four plus, just like he has a

1479
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 4: night where he he shoots over forty from three, like

1480
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 4: he's got to make some of these at some point, right, Yeah,

1481
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 4: I'll probably fade Horford and I'll probably go heavy on Houser.

1482
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 4: I did, like I faded Nasri tonight. He had seven

1483
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 4: threes last game. He's not gonna under eleven and a half.

1484
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 4: I just don't see him. And they're on the road.

1485
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 4: I mean, typically the bench players play not as well

1486
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 4: on the road as they do it at home. Even

1487
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,879
Speaker 4: though think in Minnesota we both agree wins.

1488
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 3: Tonight, Yeah, I think they do. I do well.

1489
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: We'll compare notes next hour as far as that matchup, right,

1490
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: because we're counting down to tip off, if you will,

1491
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: it's what just a little bit over an hour away,

1492
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 2: So we'll definitely.

1493
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 4: If you're an eight thirty eastern tonight, well.

1494
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 3: A little more than an hour.

1495
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 4: It's why why why not eight? Why not seven? Sid

1496
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 4: had been nice for some of us.

1497
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: I know it's a little bit two prime time right there. Okay,

1498
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: so eight your type seven Central, Yeah, a little more

1499
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: than an hour away. Yeah, we'll compare notes. How about

1500
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: this coming up next? Do you like the way the

1501
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 2: game is officiated?

1502
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 4: Now?

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01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 2: Simple question, we'll chop that up. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: Brian No. We're live from the Tirec dot Com studios

1505
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio.

1506
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No. So simple question, Jeff.

1507
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: Do you like the way the n b A is officiated?

1508
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 4: Now?

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01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 3: So a couple of things here.

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01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: First things first, very physical play and the refs man

1511
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 2: ever since the All Star break.

1512
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was directly because.

1513
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: Of the All Star Game and there's just literally no

1514
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: offense whatsoever, but it changed and it's gotta be significant

1515
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: contact for the officials to call fouls. And you go

1516
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 2: back to last night's game, the Celtics pulled out Game three.

1517
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: Drew Holliday had a great defensive stop. He stole the

1518
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: ball from Andrew Nemhard and the Pacers head coach Rick

1519
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: Carlisle he was very unhappy there was not a foul called.

1520
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: This is what he had to say after the game.

1521
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 5: So I just watched the ending, so you don't need

1522
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 5: to remind me. I saw everything that happened. Everything, what's

1523
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 5: you was it?

1524
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 4: Everything?

1525
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 3: Everything, everything that happened. Yeah, okay, so unhappy.

1526
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 4: The coach again, spicy Mike Malone. The other day, I

1527
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 4: saw Carlisle say and everything. They're like, hey, you blew

1528
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 4: an eight point lead. He goes, I know I was there.

1529
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 4: You don't remind me something like that.

1530
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: But man, a lot of these coaches, they have a

1531
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: huge problem with the way the game is officiated. It's

1532
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: so much different the way the season began, Jeff to

1533
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: where it is right now, and the way it's officiated.

1534
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 2: You got a clopper, a guy to be called for

1535
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: a foul more times than not.

1536
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 3: I don't mind it.

1537
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 2: I don't mind the physical play not being just the

1538
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: touch files left and right.

1539
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 3: I actually liked that style better.

1540
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 4: I mean, last night there was some wild like back

1541
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 4: and forth because their players look like everyone got fouled. Look, Brian,

1542
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 4: I think all of us want consistency from our umpires.

1543
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 4: So if you're going to have a game where you

1544
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 4: call it more physical than fine, do it all game right.

1545
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 4: Or if you're gonna have a game where you let

1546
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 4: when you let it go, let it go all game.

1547
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 4: The hard part of the NBA is I just think

1548
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 4: every game is sort of officiated a little differently. There's

1549
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 4: no set rule, right. I think if you look at

1550
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 4: sort of the human nature of refereeing, you know if

1551
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 4: one night a team has a bunch of foul shots

1552
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 4: and one team does it the next game, that it

1553
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 4: sort of evens out. But that feels like a natural

1554
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 4: human thing, like you see the box score. You talk

1555
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 4: to the coaches and they complain about something, the next night,

1556
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 4: they'll be called differently. Right by this thing in game?

1557
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 4: You want consistency, Brian, That's what I want. That's what

1558
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 4: you want. And that's all I asked the referees to

1559
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 4: be is consistent. If you call it the beginning and

1560
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 4: called the end of the game, don't just let it

1561
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 4: go because of the time of the game or anything like.

1562
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 3: That, right, I hear you.

1563
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is as a player, you just

1564
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 2: have to adjust and you're hoping that the officiating is

1565
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: consistent where hey, okay, I gotta get clobbered. I gotta

1566
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 2: clabber the guy over the head, and that's a foul okay, right.

1567
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, because it was a foul last night, I.

1568
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 3: Don't think it was.

1569
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: I think it was too But and the other part

1570
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: of this is it's becoming a lot more like college.

1571
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 2: They're just not giving you continuation. They're not giving you

1572
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,560
Speaker 2: and ones. Where it used to be in the NBA,

1573
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 2: if you're driving down the lane right and and you

1574
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 2: get contacted, as long as you don't dribble the ball,

1575
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: they would give you continuation all day.

1576
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't now, like you have to.

1577
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 2: Be in your shooting motion when you get fouled for

1578
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 2: them to count the basket and give you a free throw.

1579
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: I like the way it used to be. I don't

1580
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 2: prefer this way because it's too much like college. I

1581
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 2: liked it the old way.

1582
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 4: I still think it's sometimes they give continuation away too much,

1583
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 4: but I haven't noticed it to be, to be honest

1584
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 4: with you, as far as whether or not they're allowing

1585
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 4: it to happen. There are times I think to myself, like,

1586
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 4: there's no way that that should be even a shot.

1587
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 4: I like the officials. The thing I do like the

1588
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: most them not awarding flopping sort of right. And I

1589
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 4: also think that look Jalen Brunson for the Knicks is

1590
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 4: like the best episcent at this at least in the playoffs.

1591
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 4: Were like he is, and he is trying to get

1592
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 4: fouled as he shoots in the lane that thing where

1593
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 4: he does where he sort of yeah, he has the

1594
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 4: guy in his back hip and he sort of backs

1595
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 4: into him as he shoots. I hate that as a fan.

1596
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,640
Speaker 4: I hate it now within it's a smart move. It's

1597
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 4: a three point play, right, He's able to try to

1598
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 4: get himself an extra point every time he does this.

1599
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 4: I can't stand it. Dude. It's a personal preference about it.

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01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean I don't want Jalen Brunson, but sort of

1601
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 4: searching out contact as a strategy as you shoot, to me,

1602
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 4: it's part of the game. It's a good part of

1603
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: the game. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I

1604
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 4: personally don't like to watch it like that.

1605
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: Well, I do know something you do like which was

1606
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: Indiana's final play last night, So we only had what

1607
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: a little under two seconds to go. Yeah, when they

1608
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: inbounded the ball and it was a football like play

1609
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 2: and I forgot which end of the court they were

1610
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 2: going toward, right, like they're inbounding the ball, everybody is

1611
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: on the opposite end of the court, and they run

1612
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,440
Speaker 2: what looked like a football play.

1613
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 3: And this was Carlisle after the game. Check this out your.

1614
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 4: Last play where the guys lined up like wide receivers

1615
01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 4: and ran down the floor.

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01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 3: Where where did you find that one?

1617
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 5: I mean we've had it for a while, you know.

1618
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 5: I mean it was just a handy hand to our playbook.

1619
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 5: So'd you want?

1620
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: And then he explained the play where it came from.

1621
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: And they have different variations.

1622
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: But man, clean, look, you're real good.

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01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 4: You got a really good look. I mean that's that

1624
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 4: would have been Halliburton right a in a in a

1625
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 4: if he was healthy. But you have Anie Smith sort

1626
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 4: of fall away three. That's probably not do you want

1627
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 4: to go in very often? And it was close. They'll

1628
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 4: tell you that good.

1629
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 3: Shot, really close, really good play. All right?

1630
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: Coming up next the criticism? Does it exist? Or are

1631
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: we making things up? So there is criticism there, there

1632
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: isn't criticism.

1633
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 3: It is very confusing.

1634
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 2: We will sort it all out here in just a minute.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jeff, So we've covered a lot of.

1641
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 2: Ground, right, NFL, NBA, MLB, A lot of stuff going

1642
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: on here, right, yeah, let's get the WNBA into the mix.

1643
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 2: Also in the NHL playoffs, right yeah, So we've covered

1644
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 2: a lot of ground. So I'm confused here, all right.

1645
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 2: So it seemed to be that there was a lot

1646
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: of criticism aimed in the direction of Caitlin Clark. But

1647
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: now things are shifting where there are coaches, players talking

1648
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 2: heads that are saying whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. These

1649
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: WNBA players, they're just competitors. They're not excessively criticizing Caitlin Clark.

1650
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: They just want to beat her. So where do you

1651
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 2: think things stand? Has she not gotten criticized? I would

1652
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: say she has, but it's just being chalked up to

1653
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 2: and we want a beater, so it's all good. I

1654
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: don't know exactly where things stand. Where do you stand

1655
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 2: on all this and things standing?

1656
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 4: And just look, I think that there are certainly older

1657
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 4: players who are rooting against the success of Kaitlin Clark.

1658
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 4: It's very much like a quote unquote old head thing,

1659
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 4: right where you know a lot of older players don't

1660
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 4: want to give young players credit till they've earned the

1661
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 4: respect in their minds. Right, It's not it's not abnormal

1662
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 4: for sports, it's just abnormal. I think when Caitlin Clark

1663
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 4: has already benefited them personally with the Charter planes, right,

1664
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 4: with being able to play. I believe this. I was

1665
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,480
Speaker 4: told this, and I think it's correct that the Sparks

1666
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 4: Fever game. So the Los Angeles Sparks play at Staple Center,

1667
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 4: but I don't even know what it's called that oracle,

1668
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,919
Speaker 4: whatever it's called. I don't know what it's called anymore.

1669
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 4: What it used to be a Staple Center, right, Crypto arena,

1670
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 4: whatever it's called. Now, they had a higher attendance than

1671
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 4: any Laker game this season when the Sparks and Fever

1672
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 4: just played. They're moving, you know, Las Vegas Aces games

1673
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 4: they played yesterday right to the T Mobile Center where

1674
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 4: they play night's game, instead of playing at the arena

1675
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 4: they normally play at. So she's already benefiting the players

1676
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 4: by not specially putting money in their pockets now, but

1677
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 4: there's a new CBA coming up soon. They will certainly

1678
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 4: benefit from having more revenue this season. And I don't

1679
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 4: think people are wanting these veteran players to go out

1680
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 4: of their way to be nice and say nice things

1681
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 4: about her. I just think it's odd how they're taking

1682
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 4: shots at her for for really no reasons. Kmlin Clark

1683
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 4: has done nothing to warrant it. She's not a cocky player.

1684
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 4: I mean, she might think she's good on the court,

1685
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 4: which I think you should think that, Brian, but she's

1686
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 4: not out here like bad mouthing the WNBA players, the

1687
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 4: current players. I mean, she's just going about her business,

1688
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 4: doing her job. And then I think, you know the

1689
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 4: other part of this discussion happens to be that, you know,

1690
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 4: there's just you know, race comes into this a little

1691
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 4: bit with some of the commentary that we've we've heard,

1692
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 4: and that always complicates any discussion, right, I don't think

1693
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 4: it's about that, but some people believe it's about that,

1694
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 4: and that just makes the discussion I think even more

1695
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 4: even more complicated.

1696
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: Well, this is something that Lebron said. This was on

1697
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: his Mind the Game podcast with JJ Reddick. Mind the

1698
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: Game show if you will. And he said about Caitlin Clark,

1699
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,560
Speaker 2: for her individually, I don't think she should get involved

1700
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: in what's being said.

1701
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 3: Just go have fun, enjoy.

1702
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for Caitlin because I've been there in that

1703
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: seat before, I've walked that road before. I hope she

1704
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: kills Okay. So that's what Lebron says about the whole thing.

1705
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 2: So like he's reacting to the criticism, He's not just

1706
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: making up something that isn't there. There is a lot

1707
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: of noise, there is a lot of criticism, and it's

1708
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 2: strange to me that some in the WNBA they're chalking

1709
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: it up to oh no, no, no, we're not criticizing.

1710
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 2: We just we just want to beat her. It's healthy competition.

1711
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes it goes a bit beyond that.

1712
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 4: I also think part of this from the older players is,

1713
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 4: you know, they believe for a long time that there

1714
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 4: should be there shouldn't have been, should be more attention

1715
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 4: brought to their game in previous seasons. Right, there are

1716
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 4: some fabulous players in WNBA, and the league has not

1717
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 4: gone the attention that they believe they deserve. And now

1718
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you're getting the attention because of

1719
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 4: one rookie who hasn't proven herself in this specific league

1720
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 4: yet yet. Yeah, she has proven herself as a college

1721
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 4: basketball player, she's never one pick in the draft. She

1722
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 4: has proven herself on that level. But again, didn't win

1723
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 4: a championship though, right, So, I mean that's that's just

1724
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 4: just didn't happen. Not not her follower team, just like

1725
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 4: this ACIS team is. I mean, the Fever teams not good.

1726
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 4: The Fever team is just not good around her. I mean,

1727
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 4: the coach is not great. It's gonna everyone's gonna be fired.

1728
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,480
Speaker 4: They're gonna maybe draft to Pagebeckers, which will be incredible

1729
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 4: with her and can't go together. There's a lot of it,

1730
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 4: just that the you know, the old heads, I think

1731
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 4: just are a little bit upset that they had not

1732
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 4: gone the attention they think they deserve, and here comes

1733
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 4: this rookie who hasn't done anything yet, and all of

1734
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 4: a sudden, she's getting the attention and I'm not getting it.

1735
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 4: I've put in the work. I'm a ten year veteran,

1736
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 4: I've done my duty to support the league, and now

1737
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 4: this rookie is getting the attention I'm not. I think

1738
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 4: Brian plays a role in it as well.

1739
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with you, And I think that explains

1740
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: some of the critical comments Cheryl Swoops had.

1741
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 3: This is months ago she appeared on a show and.

1742
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 2: She said things that were completely wrong, not even true,

1743
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: where she's like, she's she had an extra COVID year,

1744
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: she's taken all these shots, that's why she has all

1745
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 2: these points, and it's like none of those were true.

1746
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 2: And I think it's tied to what you were saying

1747
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 2: right there. If you can look me in the face

1748
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 2: and say, none of these WNBA players present or past

1749
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: have any resentment toward Caitlin Clark. There's not a hint

1750
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 2: of why is she getting this attention? Why is she

1751
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: getting this shine? And either my team or myself is

1752
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: not You don't think there's any bit of that involved

1753
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: in this little gumbo of criticism.

1754
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 3: Of course, there.

1755
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 2: Is so this idea that, oh, no, it's just healthy competition.

1756
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: You don't have a problem with it when it comes

1757
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: to the men. Why do you have a problem with

1758
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: it with the women. That's not what it is.

1759
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 4: No, it's not. It's everything we said it is. And

1760
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, man, I probably watch a little

1761
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 4: bit of WNBA playoffs. I pay attention to Sabrina Escu's

1762
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 4: career just because the organ connection, and you know she

1763
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 4: did for Oregon, and I know her husband a little

1764
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 4: bit Raiders center there form and play an organ as well.

1765
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 4: But I look, I'm not watching a lot of wa

1766
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 4: do in the regular season. I'm watching Kaylin Clark play

1767
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 4: most nights. Now, I you know, like I I'm maybe,

1768
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 4: I'm maybe I'm the I'm the people that that the

1769
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 4: players don't like that's watching the sport now like I

1770
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 4: didn't watch for them, but I'm watching for Kaylin Clark.

1771
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 4: And again, she's not playing well, So I'll take that back.

1772
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 4: She's not playing to the standard I think that we

1773
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 4: thought she might be. But again, actually this is not

1774
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 4: that surprising because a lot of rookies struggle in every

1775
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 4: sport in their first year. She's not a bad basketball

1776
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 4: team her call. She's just ended a month ago, not

1777
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 4: really a month ago, but they started a month after

1778
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 4: her season ended, and she's got a bad coach of

1779
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 4: bad teammates, and so yeah, she's struggling. And guess what, Brian,

1780
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 4: I've been profitings that've taken her under every night. So

1781
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 4: it's been good for business.

1782
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 2: For me.

1783
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 4: So these are all the reasons why the the you know,

1784
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 4: the kind of the the haterrad is out for her.

1785
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 4: I think it will it will lessen over the years.

1786
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 4: I don't quite understand the race component of this. I mean,

1787
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 4: I trust I get the argument. I've read it, I've

1788
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 4: listened to it. I don't know why that really matters

1789
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 4: in this instance.

1790
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 3: What is it just like this is the great white

1791
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 3: Hope type thing? Is that?

1792
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean?

1793
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 4: I saw Becky Hammond discuss about how you know that

1794
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 4: that player is before her that are are are not

1795
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 4: white weren't discussed in the way that she's been discussed,

1796
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 4: and she's right, But that's just the effect of Caitlyn Clark.

1797
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 4: I mean that, I don't know why that's a race thing.

1798
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 4: I mean, Katelyn Clark is who she is. She's a

1799
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 4: generational talent. She came an era of college basketball. I've

1800
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:42,759
Speaker 4: talked to this before. I think it's important to session

1801
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 4: an era of nil when she was allowed to do

1802
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 4: commercials and be more marketable than any superstar in that

1803
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 4: sport has ever been right because that wasn't allowed to

1804
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 4: college for so many years, and she just happens to

1805
01:29:55,439 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 4: be white. That just happens to be the case. And

1806
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 4: so again I think it comes back listening to Becky

1807
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 4: Hammond talk other players. It comes back to the idea

1808
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 4: that basically, you know, the players have been upset that

1809
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 4: they they right or wrong, haven't gone the seine. They

1810
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 4: expect that they should get Brian and Kyln Carter's gone

1811
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 4: without earning.

1812
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 3: It, right.

1813
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Well, Hey, the first thing I would say is if

1814
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 2: you compare Caitlin to a past WNBA player, a star

1815
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 2: that happened to be white, It's like the style of

1816
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: the game matters, right, Like Caitlyn Clark in college, she

1817
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 2: was shooting logo threes and doing all this crazy, this

1818
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 2: like pistol Pete Maravich type stuff in the women's game.

1819
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: You know, like that's going to translate to stardom. So

1820
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 2: I don't understand this argument of well, hey, why wasn't

1821
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 2: this other girl a star?

1822
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you. I just know that.

1823
01:30:55,000 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 4: But Brian, sometimes in life there's there's a moment in

1824
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 4: time you have to take advantage of. Yeah, and Kaylen

1825
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 4: Clark came about at the right moment to take advantages

1826
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 4: It was.

1827
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 3: The perfect moment.

1828
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, for one, For one, women's sports are more popular

1829
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,560
Speaker 4: now than ever before, whether it's w n b A,

1830
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 4: whether it's college softball what's on right now, whether it's

1831
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,600
Speaker 4: Olympic sports, which we'll see with the Olympics coming up

1832
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 4: this summer. It's this summer, right, the Olympics. I think

1833
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 4: this summer, we've seen uh, the you know, the imports,

1834
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 4: college basketball, We've seen the rise in attention towards women's sports.

1835
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 4: So this is happening right now. As I mentioned before,

1836
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 4: nav evenge like this, you know, for for those who

1837
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 4: don't know, that is basically college players are allowed to

1838
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 4: market themselves now and that wasn't allowed even three years ago. Brian,

1839
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 4: So if you're a good basketball player, you weren't allowed

1840
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 4: to be on national commercials. You were if you didn't

1841
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 4: get paid, who's going to do that? You weren't allowed

1842
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 4: to do all this, all this other these other things,

1843
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 4: these other opportun us, right that wasn't allowed. We we

1844
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 4: even see you know, women's players all all all sorts

1845
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 4: of marketing and things that weren't allowed years ago, right,

1846
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 4: and a lot of them were killing it doing it right.

1847
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 4: And so Cayler Clark came about this time where all

1848
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 4: these things happened at once. And then to your point,

1849
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 4: she put together a basketball game that's really fun to watch, yeh,

1850
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 4: A bunch of threes, a bunch of great passes, up tempo, fast,

1851
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 4: and it all came together at once. And so that

1852
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 4: doesn't it doesn't mean anything more than it is right now, right,

1853
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 4: which is it came together at the moment, and camer

1854
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 4: Clark was right for the moment, and that's all this is.

1855
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 4: There's nothing more, nothing less. She came about the right

1856
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 4: moment and looked just like I'd argue that Steph Curry

1857
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 4: came about at the right moment. Lebron came about right

1858
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 4: sort of the end of you know, we're kind of

1859
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 4: we need a superstar, right, we need that that superstar guy.

1860
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 4: Here's Lebron ready to fill that role. I think, even

1861
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 4: right now, to move forward, we're sort of in that

1862
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 4: spot in the NBA, we're like, who's next. Here comes

1863
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 4: Anthony Edward right in the moments, right, And so I

1864
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 4: think that there's nothing more than that. It's not deeper

1865
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 4: than Kaitlyn Clark came about the right moment, and the WNBA,

1866
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 4: her league, her teammates, herself are using this to me

1867
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 4: they're doing a great job maximizing it, right, Like they're.

1868
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 3: Maximizing their opportunity on a national team.

1869
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 4: It's going to pay off in the end when your

1870
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 4: CBA comes due in a couple of years and you

1871
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 4: get a five hundred percent raise because of all the

1872
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 4: attention to your league.

1873
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know why, Listen.

1874
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 2: I know you're a competitor, you want to beat her,

1875
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 2: but I don't know why you wouldn't embrace the star

1876
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 2: power instead of trying to fight against it. It doesn't

1877
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: make any sense to me to say, hey, well what

1878
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 2: about this player in the early two thousands or this

1879
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,839
Speaker 2: player in twenty ten. She should have been a start.

1880
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, I don't know. I don't know what

1881
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 2: to tell you, but the here and now is easily explained.

1882
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 2: Why Caitlin Clark is a big name, why she's in

1883
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 2: a Why would you rage against that. It's a little

1884
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 2: bit like this, Jeff. If you think about voting when

1885
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,600
Speaker 2: it comes to awards, right, you could either use the

1886
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 2: Baseball Hall of Fame where they're like, oh, we've never

1887
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 2: had a unanimous selection. It's like, this dude could not

1888
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 2: be more decorated. How could you not vote for him

1889
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: as a first ballot Hall of Famer.

1890
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,599
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I don't care.

1891
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 2: If a player from yesteryear wasn't that guy or so silly. Right,

1892
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 2: Remember when Steph Curry was unanimous MVP, it was like, well,

1893
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 2: this is the first time Jordan wasn't one. It's like,

1894
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 2: he averaged thirty points on a team that won seventy

1895
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 2: three games.

1896
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 3: He was so clearly the MVP.

1897
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 2: It makes no sense to rage against that just because

1898
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,440
Speaker 2: it didn't happen beforehand.

1899
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 3: And that's what I feel like with Caitlin Clark.

1900
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 2: Why would you hold on to well, this other girl

1901
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 2: should have been a star years ago, so that's a

1902
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 2: legitimate reason to hate on k That's just dumb.

1903
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're logic, It makes total sense about why it

1904
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,679
Speaker 4: doesn't it doesn't make sense. I think what' we're talking about.

1905
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,759
Speaker 4: I think it just comes down to, again the idea

1906
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 4: that a lot of athletes feel, that pro athletes feel

1907
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 4: that you have to sort of earn the right in

1908
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 4: the professional league to be talked about the way Canlen

1909
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 4: Clark has talked about, and they have a hard time

1910
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 4: when people get attention. Look, there's other examples, by the way,

1911
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people have trouble with Dion

1912
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 4: Santa's getting attention in Colorado. We're winning four games.

1913
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:42,680
Speaker 3: Certainly coaches look at that.

1914
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 2: Remember the survive in Advance thirty for thirty Yes with

1915
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 2: NC State, when jim Valvano got into the ACC coach

1916
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: k was like, there were a lot of coaches that

1917
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 2: were hating on Jimmy v because he was getting all

1918
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 2: this attention. He had this person finality and everybody kind

1919
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 2: of flock through him, and these coaches are like, what

1920
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 2: is he done?

1921
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 3: And you're right that there are a lot of coaches

1922
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 3: that look at the un that way.

1923
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 4: And I think and one part of this kind her

1924
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 4: question that is interesting to me is again it's it's

1925
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 4: legitimate to say she will have trouble as a rookie

1926
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 4: adjusting to the game and playing the same level she

1927
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 4: did Iowa. That's a total legitimate thing. Again, I follow

1928
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 4: again Suprenoran Nescue. She struggled as a rookie too, and

1929
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 4: she was Caitlin Clark during four years ago during COVID. Unfortunately,

1930
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 4: right like she was the superstar of of college basketball.

1931
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 4: Just they ran up into COVID and she couldn't finish

1932
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 4: out her final season there, final tournament at organ and

1933
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 4: she struggles a rookie and got better. So saying that

1934
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 4: it is totally enormal, not normal thing, but a point

1935
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 4: that is very valid, but it was wrapped around sort

1936
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 4: of this hater ade too, like that from from the players,

1937
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 4: where I think if Dania Trozzi just said, you know what,

1938
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 4: I think she struggles a rookie, but I have high

1939
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 4: hopes that she'll improve as a rookie. Yeah, done, Like

1940
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 4: that's it, because look, I think the Christians are very valid.

1941
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 4: She's not a great what's the right word to say,

1942
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,799
Speaker 4: Like creator is the wrong word, but she's not as

1943
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 4: she's not as good of a creator with the ball,

1944
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 4: I think as in the wa she is in college basketball,

1945
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 4: the game is just quicker, right, She's definitely not strong enough.

1946
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 4: You can get stronger, Like there are legitimate concerns. I

1947
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 4: think the turn out stuff is kind of silly because

1948
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 4: her teams can't catch the basketball. It's not her fault.

1949
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 4: But like there's legitimate things you can talk about her game,

1950
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 4: but it's so weighed down by this idea that again,

1951
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 4: this hater aide that we can't have all discussion about

1952
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 4: that she's not as good as she was. Iowa, duh

1953
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 4: was eight points last night, and that that's life is

1954
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 4: a rookie.

1955
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

1956
01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 2: Last thing I'll say real fast, Jeff is remember early

1957
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 2: in Russell Wilson's career with the Seahawks, and I know

1958
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 2: he's not your favorite guy, but hear me out on

1959
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 2: this one right where his own teammates were looking at

1960
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 2: him sideways like why is this guy getting these endorsement deals?

1961
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 2: And right like those were his teammates that looked at

1962
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 2: him that way. So this idea that players from opposite teams,

1963
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 2: it's just healthy competition, right, And it's not any sort

1964
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 2: of jealousy or like you said, hater rade whatsoever.

1965
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: It's just silly, man. It does exist. I would just.

1966
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 2: Wish they would own it, you know what I mean,

1967
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 2: if I'd have more respect for if you if you

1968
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 2: came straight out and said I think it's too much

1969
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 2: hype and not enough substance. There I said it, I'd

1970
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 2: rather you owned it instead of trying to move the

1971
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 2: goalposts and say, oh no, not us hatred, no, never

1972
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 2: come on man.

1973
01:38:57,160 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what. Man, I watch watch your play.

1974
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 4: I'm not watching other others play now. Of course, I've

1975
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 4: enjoyed watching some of the teams they've played. Again, I

1976
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,719
Speaker 4: watched the Liberty when they play Liberty. But I'm watching

1977
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 4: more of the you know of them than I I

1978
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 4: think I have in the past. So she moves, man.

1979
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 3: She definitely does.

1980
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,719
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, Must watch TV and Hate

1981
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 2: watch TV.

1982
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 3: We'll explain. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian Know.

1983
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 2: We're live from the Tirack dot Com studios here on

1984
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:31,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz.

1985
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm Brian Know. We're live from the Tirerack dot Com studios.

1986
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 4: Jeez, Brian, what.

1987
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 3: Are you looking at me for?

1988
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 2: You know, we got Mary mac technical producer, he shordinaire here.

1989
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 3: Why why do you think this is my doing?

1990
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 4: I mean I was asked if if I want any

1991
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 4: any music, and I should have said, don't, don't let

1992
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 4: Brian choose.

1993
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 3: I always ask my defense, don't.

1994
01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 4: Don't let Brian No. I know, I know, I know

1995
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 4: you asked both of us. I'm I'm not offended you

1996
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 4: asked me. I mean I would have yeah, you know,

1997
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,560
Speaker 4: I just I thought that maybe I just should have

1998
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 4: said to you, no, no, Brian music.

1999
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 3: No Brian music. Yeah, that's it.

2000
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 4: We could not have two different tastes on music but

2001
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 4: have the same gambling taste.

2002
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 2: It's pretty that's funny, right, Yeah. I feel like this, Jeff.

2003
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,839
Speaker 2: I feel like I would be more into your music

2004
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 2: then you would be into my music. I think it's

2005
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 2: pretty fair to say.

2006
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a Yes, I like a prothor of music,

2007
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 4: but I would I don't think there's any way I

2008
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 4: could get into because I can't do it. And you're

2009
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 4: like the nicest guy too, and you listen to music

2010
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:41,839
Speaker 4: just about like raging and bludgeting people and just everything.

2011
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 4: Like you'd be like, oh, yeah, I remember a buddy

2012
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 4: of mine in college, like the same music that you like.

2013
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 4: And he he's my size. He's six six, three thirty,

2014
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 4: my roommate in freshman year, a great guy, and he

2015
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 4: he used to like go in the mosh pits. I'd

2016
01:40:58,600 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 4: be like, how do you how do you do that?

2017
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 4: You just told me how to do And I was like, oh, buddy, wow,

2018
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 4: I mean you're a large human. Luck anyone in the

2019
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 4: moshpit with you.

2020
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 2: No doubt. That's that's a crazy world right there, Jeff.

2021
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 2: You could do some damage in a mosh pit. But

2022
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, man, you don't have UFC rules,

2023
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It is literally no holds

2024
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 2: barred you just he.

2025
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 4: Just told me, like you run with your elbows up basically,

2026
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 4: just like freak.

2027
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Do something that's dumb, that's highly encouraged. Just start waving

2028
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 2: your elbows around, just start kicking at the air. And

2029
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 2: if someone should run into that general direction, well too bad.

2030
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 2: I guess they get kicked.

2031
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Do you wash?

2032
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 4: Ran?

2033
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 2: I have, I've I've dabbled in washing, but it's a

2034
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 2: it's a crazy it's a crazy scene, you know, but

2035
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 2: I definitely I have before. I'm more of I like

2036
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 2: crowdsurfing more than washing, truth be told. I know that's

2037
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 2: a very alternative rock statement to make, but it's way

2038
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 2: better than washing.

2039
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 4: It just is Brian tak an elbow to the face

2040
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 4: minus three hundred in the wash pits.

2041
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 2: It's like it's a wild scene, man, it just is

2042
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 2: over there. But hey, we got to get to Must

2043
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,719
Speaker 2: Watch TV and Hate Watch TV right around the corner

2044
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 2: first though, Kevin Wyirt, Now I've heard Jeff. I don't

2045
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:16,879
Speaker 2: know if this is just a rumor, but I've heard

2046
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 2: that he's likely to throw elbows in the moshpit as well.

2047
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 3: Do we have that right? K dub.

2048
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 10: Moshpit Always I'm throwing elbows around. I gotta protect myself

2049
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 10: because people will throw elbows at you if you're not

2050
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 10: throwing elbows at them. It's kind of a doggy dog

2051
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 10: world down in the mock now. I guess it depends

2052
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 10: if you're in a metal moshpit or a punk mosh pit,

2053
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 10: because punk moshpits are what I'm used to, and there

2054
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 10: are people who don't really seem to care about running

2055
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 10: to other people, and you got to kind of keep

2056
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,959
Speaker 10: your arms and elbows up to protect yourself.

2057
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:47,720
Speaker 4: You know, I.

2058
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 2: Have even more respect for Kevin Wyert after he said that, Jeff,

2059
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 2: he's more in the punk rock washing area of expertise.

2060
01:42:58,280 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 3: That's pretty awesome right there.

2061
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 10: I was friends with a punk band back in high

2062
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,600
Speaker 10: school early college, so I kind of I got to

2063
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 10: a few shows and got to experience it.

2064
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 3: Well, very nice man. Well, now that you're here, if

2065
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 3: you would spin us around the sporting game, yes we can.

2066
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 3: We can do that.

2067
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 10: NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs, Eastern Conference Funds. This was an

2068
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 10: outstanding hockey game nine goals scored between the Rangers and

2069
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,799
Speaker 10: the Florida Panthers. Sixty minutes was not enough to decide

2070
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 10: this one, as these teams trying to break a one

2071
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 10: to one series tie, and in the first overtime period

2072
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 10: it was Ryan Lindgren getting the game winning goal for

2073
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 10: the Rangers, cool a.

2074
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 4: Clap pass it up the near wall.

2075
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 3: But the Rangers have augustuson was.

2076
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 4: Like heaven, they may I was off to something in front.

2077
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 3: Put the Rangers.

2078
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 13: Scoring over time and they take a two to one

2079
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 13: series lead.

2080
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 10: With a five to four win Rangers Radio Network, they're

2081
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 10: very self explanatory as the Rangers take down the Panthers

2082
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 10: in Sunrise five to four, so they're now ahead in

2083
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 10: this best of seven series two games to one. In

2084
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 10: the NBA playoffs, were a little over half an hour

2085
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:04,799
Speaker 10: away from tipping off Game three of the Western Conference

2086
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 10: Finals between the Timberwolves and Mavericks. As Minnesota trying to

2087
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 10: get on the win call him in this series or

2088
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 10: else a Navericks will go up in a go up

2089
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 10: three to nothing in a situation that has not been

2090
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 10: seen before in a team by the NBA, one in

2091
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 10: which they've come back from behind three games to nine. Anyway,

2092
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 10: in Major League Baseball, we had a major development Ronald

2093
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 10: Acunya Junior hurting his knee on a non contact play

2094
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 10: running the bases. He went between first and second, his

2095
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,799
Speaker 10: knee buckled, he went to the ground, he was grabbing

2096
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 10: it in pain, then had to walk off of the field.

2097
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 10: And that very well could be a major blow for

2098
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,879
Speaker 10: the Atlanta Braves. They're trying to catch the Philadelphia Phillies

2099
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 10: in the NL standings. Philadelphia entering the day with a

2100
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 10: seven game lead over Atlanta, and they very well could

2101
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 10: be without the reigning National League MVP for quite a while.

2102
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 10: That injury did not look good or elsewhere in Major

2103
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 10: League Cubs and Cardinals, they're trying to get started in

2104
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 10: the Sunday night game in Saint Louis, but they have

2105
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:06,719
Speaker 10: a rain delay going on. It's the same weather system

2106
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 10: that's affected a couple of baseball games the Indianapolis five hundred.

2107
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 10: There's been a crazy weather there over in the Midwest.

2108
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 10: Cubs Cardinals has been delayed. Everything else has gone final.

2109
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 10: Tigers winning a walk off over the Blue Jays fourteen

2110
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:22,679
Speaker 10: to eleven. Braves for all the trouble they encountered today

2111
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 10: with Ronald Couter Junior going down. They did win the

2112
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 10: game against the Pirates eight to one, but small consolation

2113
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 10: for them. Red Sox win a Pictures duel against the

2114
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 10: Brewers two to one, Mariners over the Nationals nine to five,

2115
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 10: Rays beat the Royals four to one. Mets with a

2116
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 10: big comfort behind victory against the Giants four to three.

2117
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 10: Orioles top the White Sox four to one. That game

2118
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 10: was started a couple hours late because of rain, but

2119
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 10: eventually they do finish it and the Orioles win it. Rangers,

2120
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 10: they've had a couple of difficult weeks lately, but they

2121
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 10: do get a do get help from Corey Seger a

2122
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 10: two run home run for Texas as he helps lift

2123
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 10: the Rangers over the Twins six to two. Rockies over

2124
01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 10: the Phillies five to two. Up in the Mile High

2125
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 10: Sex Any Guardians hold off the Angels five to four

2126
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 10: over in Anaheim, Astros beat the Athletics five to two,

2127
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 10: Marlin's three to one over the Diamondbacks out in the Desert,

2128
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 10: Padres beat the Yankees five to two. Down in San Diego,

2129
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 10: the Indy five hundred the greatest spectacle in racing this

2130
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 10: Gate where this race was delayed by several hours again

2131
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 10: because of that inclement weather that was occurring in the

2132
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,600
Speaker 10: Midwest all morning and into the afternoon. They got the

2133
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 10: race started at four forty four Eastern time, and now

2134
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 10: they have.

2135
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 3: Just fifteen laps.

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01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 10: Ago they were hoping again at least one hundred and

2137
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 10: one of the two hundred laps in to make it official,

2138
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 10: but now they just got fifteen to go, one hundred

2139
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 10: and eighty five laps in it to this race. And

2140
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,560
Speaker 10: right now in the lead, it's Kaifen Simpson who is

2141
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 10: currently leading. He is from Australia in the number one

2142
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 10: spot with fifteen laps to go. Back to you guys,

2143
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 10: good on you.

2144
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 2: That's my new favorite Aussie expression there, Jeff, I'm just

2145
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 2: gonna incorporate it in my You know.

2146
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 4: Your guy New Gardens, right, I mean he's there right there.

2147
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeen's got a tablin, is that right?

2148
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2149
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 2: The guy in first place got a pit so yeah

2150
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, So New Garden will be right there.

2151
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 3: We got a fifteen lap. Sprint down the stretch, Get

2152
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 3: down the stretch.

2153
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 2: Shout out to my guy, the big man e from

2154
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 2: salam He's coming up next. Top of the hour, former

2155
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 2: offensive lineman, just like you, Jeff Schwartz, and he heard

2156
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:23,640
Speaker 2: our metal conversation.

2157
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 3: He just texted me Mega Death.

2158
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 4: The band.

2159
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's one of the bands that's a metal band.

2160
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 2: And I said, we gotta get you in a mosh pit, man,

2161
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 2: you do some damage over.

2162
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 3: We would kill absolutely everybody in a he would and

2163
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 3: he's holding that back.

2164
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 1: Mary.

2165
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a disservice to moshpits. How could

2166
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:48,719
Speaker 2: you as someone that can do damage just withholding your power.

2167
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: That would be like one of these superheroes saying no, no,

2168
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 2: I don't feel like saving the world right now.

2169
01:47:54,720 --> 01:48:00,719
Speaker 3: What good will it bring? Method like murder, what ury metals?

2170
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 3: You know, it's mayhem, you know it's what it would bring.

2171
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 2: Uh, Jeff, let me throw this at you because Aaron

2172
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 2: Rodgers he said something, sir, that's very well known quarterback

2173
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 2: for the New York Jets.

2174
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 4: I thought he was the vice presidential candidate.

2175
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 2: That was, by the way, the dumbest waste of time

2176
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 2: ever where it was. He even said it this week, Jeff.

2177
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 2: He's like, it was either quit playing football to do

2178
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:31,680
Speaker 2: that or play football full time. It's people acted like

2179
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 2: he was gonna do a two to one combo. That

2180
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 2: was ridiculous. But this is what Rogers said. So a

2181
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:40,720
Speaker 2: lot of primetime games for the Jets, six of them

2182
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 2: in the first eleven weeks, and he said, we are

2183
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 2: must watch TV. Whether you love me or hate me,

2184
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 2: people want to see me play. He's completely correct about that.

2185
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 2: But this is what it made me think of. Let's

2186
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:57,719
Speaker 2: start with must must watch TV. Yeah, if you're looking

2187
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 2: at either players or teams just the NFL, who would

2188
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 2: be on your must watch list? I know you're a

2189
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 2: maniac like I am, and you're watching all this NFL stuff. Yeah,

2190
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 2: but if it was just one of these, it's week five,

2191
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,719
Speaker 2: you have to pick, like who are you watching? Who's

2192
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 2: the team, who's the player, who's the highest on your list?

2193
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 4: Well, with the thing the Chiefs out of this, essentially

2194
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 4: you don't have to I mean the Chiefs would be one.

2195
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 4: I think it's all about quarterbacks, right, so you want

2196
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 4: to watch and sometimes by the way, like Kyler Murray

2197
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 4: is a super fun watch, Like the Arizona Cardinals just

2198
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 4: every week it's like you just there's just a lot

2199
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 4: happening in their games. Yeah, he's again in the way

2200
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 4: he plays, it's a fun watch. But I think to

2201
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 4: me almost like Josh Allen is number one for me, okay,

2202
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 4: because there is some of that variance with his game,

2203
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 4: right where like you get the incredible throw and like

2204
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 4: the oh my god, what are you doing play?

2205
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,719
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot Lamar the boring.

2206
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2207
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like Mahomes, especially now, you're like, just get me

2208
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,719
Speaker 4: to the postseason, like you know, like none of it matters.

2209
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 4: Anyone in the regular season forgets the city and there

2210
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 4: are games where you know, you just clearly the Chiefs

2211
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 4: are not as motivated as they need to be. Yeah,

2212
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 4: Buffalo to me and Josh Allen every week is a

2213
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 4: roller coaster. Lamar is that way for sure. Herbert's a

2214
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 4: little bit like that where he is, you know, sort

2215
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 4: of gotta watch it because there's a lot to go

2216
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 4: off the rails there with the Chargers all the time.

2217
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 2: They even have a catchphrase, the Josh Allen experience, you know,

2218
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 2: because oh yeah, it's like that.

2219
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 3: Lamar.

2220
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 2: Definitely, I like that, Like is there something to be

2221
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 2: said about the variance and that leading to a lot

2222
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 2: more entertainment value. Where as a guy, I would argue,

2223
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,479
Speaker 2: and I know you would too. Mahomes is a fun

2224
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 2: watch because he's so creative, but he's a lot steadier

2225
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 2: than some of those other guys. And when you don't

2226
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 2: get that same variance, that can I think hurt the

2227
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 2: entertainment value a little bit.

2228
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,640
Speaker 4: Right, Well, mahomes now especially is a lot of just

2229
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 4: like I'll take the four yard pass, you know, like

2230
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 4: I'm good with that. Yeah, you know there's a thrower

2231
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 4: to a game that really you're like, oh wow, no, look,

2232
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 4: there is a we've talked about this. I like the DVOA, right,

2233
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 4: A good good stat to use for efficiency. Aaron Shafts developed,

2234
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 4: It's it's great, it's universally used. And part of the

2235
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 4: rankings is variants. They ranked the variance of your team,

2236
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 4: which basically means, again like how closely do you play

2237
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 4: to yourself every week, every play, every game. And Buffalo's

2238
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,719
Speaker 4: offense is like always first and variance because Josh Allen,

2239
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 4: because there are times when he throws four hundred yards

2240
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 4: and four touchdowns. There are times he throws one twenty

2241
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 4: and three interceptions and you're like, what what is this?

2242
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 4: What do you do with Josh? I think it's east

2243
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 4: corrected a lot of that recently, Right, we've seen less

2244
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 4: and less of that, but there's that opportunity with him

2245
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 4: to just have some wild things happen. And that's what

2246
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 4: I think they're I think that would be the most

2247
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 4: fun watch right now. I think that C. J. Strauss

2248
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 4: getting the point where it's sort of a must watch

2249
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 4: the way that that team plays, which is a really

2250
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 4: you know, great, great tribute to him. Are the Lions

2251
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 4: up there for you?

2252
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 3: I love watching the Lions play, Yeah.

2253
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 4: I think because of their aggressiveness, right, Like Dan Campbell

2254
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 4: is always pushing the limit, and that to me is

2255
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,759
Speaker 4: fun to watch, right, like a team that is always

2256
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 4: playing to win, a lot of times teams play not

2257
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 4: to lose. The Lions play to win, Brian, like they

2258
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 4: play the game to win the football game.

2259
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 2: They're a little bit this is a different sport, but

2260
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 2: they're basically the anti Boston Celtics, you know, where they

2261
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 2: do not fall asleep, They are not laxed.

2262
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,600
Speaker 4: Up seven with five minutes of this walking up the

2263
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 4: court and just they just stand all five guys outside

2264
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 4: the three point line, Like can you just skip twenty

2265
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 4: four seconds for the bad shot and just give the

2266
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 4: ball back to the pacers?

2267
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 11: Man?

2268
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 2: How about hate watching Okay, like Aaron Rodgers said, whether

2269
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 2: you love me or hate me, people want to see

2270
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:17,759
Speaker 2: me play.

2271
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't have time to hate watch anybody.

2272
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:25,879
Speaker 3: Okay, not necessarily your own list. Okay, Oh, number one, number.

2273
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 4: One, all Kansas City is number one. I think people

2274
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 4: want to hate watch Kansas City.

2275
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 2: Do you think that Casey has surpassed the Cowboys? Are

2276
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 2: they the most watch.

2277
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 4: I don't know if hate watch are writing for the Cowboys?

2278
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 4: I think people I think people want to watch, yeah,

2279
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 4: probably to see him get embarrassed. Yeah, Cowboys, Yeah, Cowboys won.

2280
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 4: Chiefs are up there now when you win, people want

2281
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 4: to do that, right.

2282
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2283
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:53,720
Speaker 4: I think Tom Brady was probably the best example of

2284
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 4: the recent memory.

2285
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 3: Right.

2286
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 4: People hate watching Tom Brady.

2287
01:53:56,080 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 3: No doubt. I think I think Taylor Swift helps.

2288
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:06,799
Speaker 4: Shirt some hate watching there. I will like hate stock

2289
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 4: social media accounts, but I don't have time to hate

2290
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 4: to like hate watch sports. I think in college football,

2291
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 4: Colorado is certainly up there for teams. People name's up

2292
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 4: there in a big game, right, in a big game,

2293
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 4: maybe Ohio State sometimes, probably not as much as Notre

2294
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 4: Dame that I think it's definitely Colorado and Dianna's number one.

2295
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 4: I think I would think all football in Colorado and

2296
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 4: Deanna that we number won this year for hate watching. Yea,

2297
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 4: but yes, when they measure the people that watch Brian,

2298
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 4: it's not broken down they hate watchers.

2299
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 3: It's just one big number all ratings. Baby, that's right.

2300
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 2: I think if Harbaugh, if he was back at Michigan,

2301
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: that would have helped the hate watch factor.

2302
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, this would be a lot of apathy

2303
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 4: with Michigan games. I feel like this year, I don't.

2304
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to have the same look.

2305
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 4: Youre Notre Dame guy, Dude. Do people hate watch the

2306
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 4: Irish still?

2307
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: Oh?

2308
01:54:57,760 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

2309
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 4: In big games they do, right, Not not like in

2310
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 4: a not against Purdue, right, but yeah they hate watch

2311
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 4: them play.

2312
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt about it, No doubt there's still Hey,

2313
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 2: let's I get it, man, I get the people that

2314
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 2: hate Notre Dame.

2315
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 3: Those are the dumb people. We called it, Jeff, I did.

2316
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 4: I was on a different radio program this morning on

2317
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:22,040
Speaker 4: College Sports Radio and Serrus XM, and we did a

2318
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 4: list of top five teams or coaches in college football

2319
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 4: most needing to be a playoff team this year. I

2320
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 4: think we both agreed. Notre Dame is like number five

2321
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 4: on that list? Are they? Are they team that has

2322
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 4: to be in a playoff team this season?

2323
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you've expanded it to twelve. Yeah, and in

2324
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 2: the schedule that they have, their schedule is pretty soft.

2325
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 4: It's very very uh so setting up to be a

2326
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 4: five seed and lose to like Boise States in the firste.

2327
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 2: I hope that's not the case, but yeah it's uh

2328
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 2: I hope Marcus Freeman can get it done. You know me,

2329
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm from South Bend, so I bleed Notre Dame football.

2330
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 2: But this slate tell me if this skill is you.

2331
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 2: They got a couple of decent opponents, but so Texas

2332
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 2: A and M, Northern Illinois, Perdue, Miami of Ohio, Louisville, Stanford,

2333
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, Navy, Florida State, Virginia Army, USC. Jeez, the

2334
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:23,600
Speaker 2: tough games are at USC, Florida State at Texas A

2335
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 2: and M.

2336
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but A and M has a brand new coach, right,

2337
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 4: that's week one, brand new coach. Florida State has a

2338
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 4: bunch of guys one in the NFL. I'm not I'm

2339
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 4: not like a DJU guy. I think dj U is okay,

2340
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 4: I mean he'll play on a six percent of passes

2341
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 4: last season in a in a in a run friendly

2342
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 4: offense like that was just not good enough. And who's

2343
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 4: the one you mentioned? Usc USC's there went total seven

2344
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 4: and a half right now, I know it.

2345
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 3: I know a lot of turnover there, you know that? Wow?

2346
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it. Name might have to might go

2347
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 4: over with nine probably nine and a half, right or

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01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 4: is it ten and a half? There's only there's five

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01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 4: teams that are at ten and a half. It's like

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01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 4: Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Georgia, maybe Alabama, Like maybe no

2351
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 4: name's up there at ten and a half.

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01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 3: We might have to hit the over there. By the way,

2353
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 3: we'll have some details for you.

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01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 2: Joseph Newgarden, he runs it back back to back Indy

2355
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 2: five hundred champ there and did wager on them again.

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01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 4: He did the drafting thing though, like you said in

2357
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 4: the last lap.

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01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 2: That's I'm telling you, dude, it's a little bit more

2359
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 2: like NASCAR these days. In Indy five hundred racing.

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01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 4: You win, what do you win for the race?

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01:57:33,080 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 3: How much money?

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01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how much the purse is. I'm

2363
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 2: not sure, but it's it's the prestige along with that.

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01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 4: Jeff, you know, is this the one you drink the

2365
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 4: milk in?

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01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I go two percent myself.

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01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 2: All right, we'll come back here just a second. There

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01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 2: is a star that says he's going to be super aggressive.

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01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 2: What about his team though, We will compare some notes

2370
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Speaker 2: before we get on out of here. He is Jeff Schwartz.

2371
01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm Brian, Now keep it liked right here on Fox

2372
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:03,959
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz.

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01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm Brian No live from the Tireck dot Com studios.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: Is this a Jeff Schwartz selection here? I didn't pick it?

2376
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah I did. Actually I told him to. This

2377
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 4: is I want to Death of Human is what I

2378
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 4: wanted to play.

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01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is in the pregame locker room

2380
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 2: with the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 4: It's probably be here. Yeah. That that and Tiesto they're

2382
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 4: both together in the the pre and walker room. Oh man,

2383
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 4: I put I put. I put over seven and a

2384
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 4: half points Fancy Edwards in the first quarter in about

2385
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 4: thirty minutes ago. So I'm buying into the Edwards coming

2386
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 4: hot hot for this game.

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01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and This is what he said at shoot around

2388
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 3: earlier today. Jeff, I'm gonna be super aggressive.

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01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 6: I mean I haven't took more than sixteen shots in

2390
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,879
Speaker 6: each game, so it would be ultra aggressive coming.

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01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 3: Out, super aggressive, ultra aggressive.

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01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 2: And it sounds like he's gonna have twenty some shots

2393
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,960
Speaker 2: tonight at least that's his mindset heading into Game three.

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01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 4: I love it, like this is why he's an alpha man,

2395
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 4: like he's twenty two. He might not win this series,

2396
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 4: but I love this attitude. This is the attude you

2397
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 4: have to have if you're the dude. Yeah, if you

2398
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 4: want to be the dude, you have this edude you

2399
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 4: have to have. You're you're telling the other team I

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01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 4: am coming out, man. Let you know right now, I'm

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01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 4: gonna be aggressive.

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01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 4: It might open up things for his Teammatechell, which will

2404
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 4: be great. But I just love it, man. I love

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01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 4: just just being bold and confident and tell everyone what

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01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 4: you're gonna do.

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01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, I'm with you.

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01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 2: He also talked about the Wolves on the road this postseason,

2409
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 2: something to keep in mind for Game three on the

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01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 2: road in Dallas tonight.

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01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 6: I think we've played bet on the road anyway, I

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01:59:49,160 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 6: mean every time we besides the Phoenix series, we haven't

2413
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 6: played well at home, so I mean, I think we're

2414
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 6: looking forward to this game because we played better on

2415
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:57,840
Speaker 6: the road without back and using the world.

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01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:00,600
Speaker 2: A lot of Wolves money coming in, Jeff, the line

2417
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 2: is moved. The Wolves were three and a half point underdogs.

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02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 2: Now they're just a point and a half underdog on

2419
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 2: the money line. It's even money. I say, we're looking

2420
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 2: at a two to one series after.

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02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 4: A Well, I agree with you.

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02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:16,520
Speaker 3: It's it's it's moved.

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02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 2: You know. I don't like when the money keeps moving

2424
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:21,440
Speaker 2: on the side that you like, because I'd like to

2425
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:24,080
Speaker 2: double dip. I'm already in on the Wolves plus three.

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02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 2: I like to go money line. But we'll see how

2427
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 2: this thing starts out, you know, maybe something Jeff, Yeah,

2428
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 2: we'll go in game.

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02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:34,880
Speaker 3: Here, all right, everybuddy, enjoy your evening fun hanging with you.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you soon.