1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two on this Tuesday, Dan and The 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Dane's Dan Patrick Show. A little bit later on, Alex Smith, 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Washington football team, will join us. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: After that remarkable comeback, Can you win Comeback Player of 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: the Year after five weeks? I think so, unless Dak 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Prescott would somehow be able to come back, but I 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: would rule that out. Talking to an orthopedic surgeon yesterday, 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: he said that's at least five to six months. At 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: least five to six months of somebody of that age 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: who would have that kind of injury. He said, obviously 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: Dak is a special athlete, but I would probably have 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: a window of five to six months, and that includes 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: the rehab as well. Nick Right from Fox Sports will 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: join us coming up. He caught my attention yesterday that 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: he says what the media doesn't want you to know 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: about Michael Jordan. He had a tweet very cryptic. So 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: we'll talk to Nick Right and CC Sabathia will join 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: us as well. He can talk about Walker Bueller's blister, 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: and it can all talk about Walker Bueller's pants, believe 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: it or not. After the loss last night the Dodgers 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: losing to the Braves. This is the question asked to 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Walker Bueller the Dodgers Ace, Hey, Walker, Walker Bueller's pants. 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: We're trending on Twitter tonight praying at the time or place, Michael, 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: thank you Walker. Even if he won the game, I 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: don't know if it's appropriate. Now, maybe you could squeeze 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: it in there. Let's say he had a great outing, 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: went seven strong, and you go, Hey, let's talk about 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: your Lulu Lemon pants that you're wearing out there, not 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: when you lose in dramatic fashion where the Braves take 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: you to the woodshed in the ninth inning. There and 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: now the game of the season is later on today 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw against Ian Anderson. Also the Rays over the Astros. 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: Bill's Titans coming up tonight, and you've got the Rays 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: in the Astros again today. Saint's beat the Chargers in 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: overtime last but it feels like the big winner was 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: justin Herbert that you're kind of going, look, you know, 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: the same still looked a little bit flawed, but here 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: it is national TV with the rookie. He played well, 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: four touchdowns, no interceptions, but they ended up losing because 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: they can do it better than anybody else. When you 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: talk about losing a close game, Chargers come on down 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: because they've lost four straight, each of them one score games. 44 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: In each of those losses, they blew a lead in 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: two straight games. They've blown seventeen point leads and lost. 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Over the last four games, they've been out scored forty 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: four to sixteen in the fourth quarter and overtime, and 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: they lose last night. They never trailed until overtime at 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: a miss pat and a potential game winning field goal 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: and regulation. But the Chargers go down in flames. But 51 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: the consolation prize is they've got a quarterback in Justin Herbert, 52 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: and I think, including myself, he was going to take 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: some time to develop, but he is ready to go 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: and going to a better team than Joe Burrow might 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: have more success early than Joe Burrow and even two 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: a ton of iolo. Let's bring in the aforementioned very 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: popular Nick Wright from First Things First on Fox Sports one, 58 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: and he joins us, thanks for joining us. What did 59 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: you mean by this cryptic tweet? What the media doesn't 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: want you to know about Michael Jordan? Well, listen, Dan, 61 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: and thanks for having me on It's an honor as always. 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: You know, I blame you in part for this. Oh boy, Listen, 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: folks have a lot of nostalgia tied to the nineties. 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: It's you and Keith on Sports Center. It was a 65 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: simpler time and the unbeatable Chicago Bulls. And I've always tried, 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: like the great Michelle Obama, to go high when others 67 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: go low. But I've had enough of folks bringing up 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: twenty eleven and the MAVs series. I've had enough of 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: people talking about finals losses. So I just want to 70 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: remind people of some facts about Michael Jordan. Did you 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: know Michael Jordan ever even had a winning regular season, 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: much less win a playoff series without Scottie Pippen with him. 73 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Did you know that Michael Jordan the only time he 74 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: ever beat Larry Bird in a playoff game was when 75 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: Bird was coaching the Pacers. Did you know that in 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Jordan's entire run, there were three teams in the Eastern 77 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: Conference that had an all time player on them, Bird, Celtics, 78 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Isaiah's Pistons, Shacks Magic. Jordan's series record against those three 79 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: teams two and six against everybody else twenty three and one, 80 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: and did you know that after the Pistons run was 81 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: over those next seven years when Jordan won five titles, 82 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: there was only one team in the entire East because 83 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: I was here, Oh, Lebron walked over a week East. 84 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: There's only one team in the whole East that had 85 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: more than one Hall of Famer on it. Jordan's team. 86 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: He's the only guy with a Hall of Fame teammate. 87 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: Reggie's got a Dutch guy who's seventy four, Patrick Ewings 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: got John starts brush out the grocery aisle, and people 89 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: act like the East was great. It wasn't. And so 90 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: I just listen. I don't want to have to do 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: a smear campaign on Michael Jordan, who, without questions, at 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: least the third best player ever. But I do what 93 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: I have to do. Who is the best player ever? Nick? 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: Come on, man, Dan, you know the answer to this. 95 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: The thing is this. We we know it's Lebron and 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: it is going to be in twenty five years. Folks 97 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: aren't gonna believe we argued about it. It's like, well, 98 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: one guy was bigger, he was faster, he was stronger, 99 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: he did it longer, he did it in a tougher league. 100 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: He did it when the rules were kind of designed 101 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: against him. He did it over a far longer period 102 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: of time. He scored more points, he was obviously the 103 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: better passer. What were we arguing about, oh the other 104 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: what was it? And so I don't I don't think 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: anyone can make a credible case that does not involve 106 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: the phrase he's six and zero or bringing up now 107 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: the twenty eleven finals is. And I will admit this, 108 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: it is a meltdown. It is a giant blemish on 109 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: the resume. But it's been a decade and since then 110 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: he's played in the last game of the year every 111 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: year except for the year. Tour is growing. I'm with 112 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: you on recognizing Lebron. I don't understand why he is. 113 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: You know, he's polarizing. Yeah, I don't get it. I 114 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: don't know, like of all of the superstars in all 115 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: of sports, nobody faces this like Lebron doos No, there's 116 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: no other big name star that we try to discredit 117 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: the way, even you know, Tom Brady, Like people will 118 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: acknowledge Tom is the greatest. They're not dragging him down 119 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: at every possible stop sign here. Well, and that's the 120 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: thing is, listen, I think there's a credible case to 121 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: be made. And that's why I said a little tongue 122 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: in cheek that Jordan is at least the third best. 123 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: I think there's three guys with a credible case, and 124 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: you I've talked about this. I don't know what was 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: on or off the year Kareem gets totally disregarded. Kareem's 126 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: got the most points, the most MVPs, won of finals, 127 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: MVP sixteen years separated, was the best player in the 128 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: league the day he walked into basketball. There's a rookie 129 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: year from day one is the best player in the league. 130 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: So Kareem's got a case. Obviously, Jordan's got a case. 131 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: Lebron's got a case. What bothers me is not the 132 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: folks that are like, you know, I think Lebron's second, 133 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: even though I think they're wrong. It's it's your good 134 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: friend and not as good a friend as yours as 135 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: he is to me. But my friend Charles Barkley was like, 136 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Lebron's not top five, Yeah you got you got Paul 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Pierce retroactively kicking him out of the top five because 138 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: of a loss to the Blazers. He didn't suffer. It's insane. 139 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: That stuff is insane, and I do think I don't 140 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: know if he gets points for this or not, but 141 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: we saw in the last dance that Michael, before his 142 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: father was tragically murdered, was burnt out and thinking about 143 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: leaving a mad Rashad told us he had that before 144 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: that he was thinking about leaving, and then at the 145 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: end to the second three peat was burned out again 146 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: and left Lebron's face a level of scrutiny unlike any 147 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: player ever, just because of the social media in the 148 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty four hour sports cycle we're in, and has showed 149 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: up to work every single day. I don't think that 150 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: can be discounted. I think the reason why Barkley brings 151 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: it up and Paul Pierce brings it up is how 152 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Lebron went about doing it, That he had to go 153 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: to Miami, that he wanted to go to Los Angeles, 154 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: he needed to bring Anthony Davis in, And I think 155 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: that's where they look at it and say, you know, 156 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Paul Pierce benefited from KG and Ray Ray going there 157 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: or he never would have won. And Charles knowing Charles, 158 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: you know he tried to do it in Houston like 159 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: they did try themselves. That's the problem. And I listen, 160 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: I adore Chuck. But he's quoted in the Houston Chronicle 161 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: in the mid nineties explaining why he's forcing his way 162 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: out of Phoenix because he wants a chance to win, 163 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: to team up with Clyde and Dream and Paul listen, 164 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: Paul's a very, very good all time player, I get it, 165 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: far better player than analysts. But that was unfair, but exactly. 166 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: But the other thing is this, if you don't have 167 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: Kevin McHale, Gift is old Buddy Danny Ainge, true Kevin Garnett, 168 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: then what's Paul Pierce like he needed? Now he didn't 169 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: have to go anywhere. He was the Dwayne Wade in 170 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: that scenario with Ray Allen and KG coming there. But 171 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: the idea that nobody did it on their own and 172 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: Lebron gave Cleveland a fair chance to build something that 173 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: first time around, and they're like, hey, how does Booby 174 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: Gibson and big Z sound. He's like, okay, I still 175 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: maintain that might be Now you can make iverson seventy 176 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: six ers, you could throw them in there. Has anybody, 177 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: as Bill Simmons, ever come up with a list of 178 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: the worst teams to go to an NBA Final. Well, 179 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: so listen. The thing that Iverson seventy sixers had was 180 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year, Dickimbay was excellent. Like 181 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: we forget. They just didn't have a lot of great offense. 182 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: The O seven Calves were a disaster Trump maybe only 183 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: by the twenty eighteen Cabs host Kyrie post the it trade, 184 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Kevin loves in and out of the lineup, and it's 185 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: it's Lebron and my guy, j R. Smith and Jennie Osman, Like, 186 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: all right, I guess we'll do this together. I got 187 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: a question for you. I can give you Michael Jordan 188 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: at twenty five, Lebron at twenty five, Kareem at twenty five. 189 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: And you're gonna build. You're the general manager, You're gonna 190 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: build your team around one of those three. Oh, I 191 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: think to me, it's unquestionable. It has to be Lebron 192 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: because he has shown he is the only guy. And 193 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: this is the other thing. You didn't tell me who 194 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: the coach is. And Lebron's the only one who doesn't matter. 195 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: For think about all the dynasties, not even just basketball, 196 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: Dan football, all the die Eric Spoelsterer, who ended up 197 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: being a great coach. You want to go. He's gonna 198 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer though, Spolster. I think it is, 199 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: absolutely But at the time, yeah, you don't ever want 200 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: to playoff series. Hey, David Blatt, you're only going to 201 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: spend a couple of years in America. You want to 202 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: spend one of them in the finals? Well, hey, tylu 203 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a really good coach. We didn't know it, 204 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: Frank Bogel. They got they couldn't get ready a fast 205 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: up in Orlando. You want to win a title, It'll 206 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: be fun. Come on, come join me. You know, when 207 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: your head was shaved, you were more of a Michael 208 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: Jordan guy. Now that you have longer hair, it just 209 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: feels like now you're you're you became a Lebron fan. 210 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I think eight percent of the Jordan legacy is the 211 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: iconic shaved head, and I think fourteen percent of it 212 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: is the sneakers. I really believe. Like I'm telling you this, 213 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: I am literally wearing Jordan sweatpants and I'm like, damn, 214 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: he did get the marketing done. Yeah, And I always 215 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: wonder about this with Lebron. If Lebron had lost a 216 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: series like Kawai did, do you know we would still 217 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: be talk we would still be talking about that, well, 218 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: like he's getting fatigued for winning in the finals, of course, 219 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: of course. So I think there were two instances in 220 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: these playoffs where you saw how hard it is to 221 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: be Lebron. Jimmy Butler was Lebron for a night and 222 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: it was unbelievable in Game five, and you know what 223 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: it did to him. It ruined him for Game six 224 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: because he was spent. Kawhi Leonard for the first time 225 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: in his career entered a playoff series where it's like, man, 226 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: if we don't win this, they're gonna crush me. For 227 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: the first time in his career for a playoff series, 228 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: he had to be Lebron where it's like, man, if 229 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: we don't it's losing. There's no win for me here. 230 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: We're supposed to win and if we lose, I get killed. 231 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: And by the end of it, he's going over in 232 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: a second half of a Game seven. Like that, weight 233 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: of the expectations that Lebron is dealt with every step 234 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: of his career, it's pretty Unpresceddy and I and we're 235 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: talking to Nick Wright, the co host of First Things 236 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: First on Fox Sports. One the thing that I bring up, 237 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: and I'll leave you with this, is that we miss 238 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: out sometimes because we don't like a player for some reason. 239 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: I didn't like bjorn Borg because he always beat John 240 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: McEnroe at Wimbledon, and I didn't appreciate bjorn Borg. And 241 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: there are certain players you would watch when you're growing 242 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: up and you just didn't like. I didn't like the Orioles, 243 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: they always beat the Cincinnati Reds, Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, 244 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: and I just I cautioned people, you may not like 245 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: Lebron for whatever reason, but appreciate this. You'll never see 246 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: this again. Somebody who at thirty five reinvents themselves and 247 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: is still the best player in the game, and he 248 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: does it on a big stage in the bubble degree 249 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: of difficulty crazy, and we're going to still some how 250 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: fine fault with him. But ye, and you know what 251 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: we're that really hit home with me in streat Point 252 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: by you is and I don't mean to bring it 253 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: down at the very end, but when Kobe passed, because 254 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: I wasn't a Kobe guy, so I was always nitpicking, 255 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I mean, I was always like, well, 256 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: what about this? What about that? And I don't and 257 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: I love basketball, but I don't think I fully appreciated 258 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: what he was doing when he was doing it because 259 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: I was picking Nick. So I can be guilty of 260 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: that myself. And then all of a sudden he's gone 261 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: and you're and you revisit it and you're like, oh 262 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: my God, like this guy all the things he did. 263 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: So I do think that is I think it's a 264 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: great point by you. I wasn't much of a bored 265 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: guy either, though seems like a jerk. I'm just kidding. 266 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't a lie. What's good to talk to you? 267 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Keep stirring? Hey, can I tell your audience one thing? 268 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: Yes about you? Oh? Dan Patrick and I have never 269 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: met in person, and Dan Patrick, on three separate occasions, 270 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: has called me to check in on me, see how 271 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm doing, and to give me career advice. He is 272 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: a really, really good man, despite some questionable sports takes 273 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: at times. I want people to know that, Thank you, Nick, 274 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate Thank you, Dan, I appreciate you. I'll call 275 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: you later, Okay, see you. That's Nick Ray and he's 276 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: a co host. First things first, on Fox Sports One. Now. 277 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: I I there's certain members of the media. Evan Cohen 278 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: who does Mad Dog Radio. I think he's got a 279 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: lot of talent. I think Nick's got a lot of 280 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: talent as well. There's certain guys who just have fresh 281 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: ideas and takes and they're not afraid Tony really. I 282 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: just like that they do their research. And you know, 283 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: Nick doesn't, you know, cheat off somebody's paper. He always 284 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: has some things that he brings and I appreciate that. 285 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, another person I think is a star that 286 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: nobody talks about is Shannon Sharp. I think Shannon Sharp 287 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: is the star of that show with Skip Bayliss. Like 288 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: if you listen to him, there's no stick and gimmick, like, 289 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: he's got facts there. And these are athletes who normally 290 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: come in and probably take a shortcut here. Hey, all 291 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: I do is get in front of the camera and 292 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: I talk or get in front of a microphone. Shannon 293 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: Sharpe has well thought out, you know, ideas and opinions 294 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: and a very smart stuff in my opinion. All right, 295 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We'll get phone calls in 296 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. Alex Smith, the Washington Football team will 297 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: join us. And what a journeyman. Not a journeyman, but 298 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: what a journey man getting to this point. And I 299 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: guess you can you give him Comeback Player of the 300 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: Year right now after five weeks, because it'll be be 301 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: hard pressed if you go, hey, what did you come 302 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: back from? I came back from you know, I had 303 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: a shoulder surgery and like Cam Newton, you know, comeback 304 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: player of the year Alex Smith, Well, I nearly died 305 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: and nearly lost my leg. And just the fact that 306 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: I got on the field this past weekend yeast time. 307 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: He could have come on the field and just taken 308 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: a knee or hinted the ball off once and went 309 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: right back out And to me, that would be enough 310 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: that he would suited up and actually was able to 311 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: be out there for one NFL player. Somebody in the 312 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Washington organization said they thought that they might do a 313 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: ceremonial This is prior to the start of the season, 314 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: a ceremonial moment for Alex Smith where they let him 315 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: on the field in uniform and then he goes out 316 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: there and basically takes a knee, takes a snap. I mean, 317 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: it's come a long way, Yeah, I don't mean to 318 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: be skeptical, but from an outside I thought part of 319 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: the reason Alex Smith was trying to come back was 320 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: to fulfill some type of contract, you know, parameter where 321 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: to get some of the money he made with his 322 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: big signing bonus or his paycheck. He had to appear 323 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: on a roster, be cleared to play. I don't know 324 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: if that's true or not, but I thought that might 325 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: have been some of it. I don't know what happens 326 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: with an injury. I don't know as far as collecting. 327 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: But then, you know, the same source told me that 328 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: he would be able to come back and there they 329 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: would negotiate a buyout. This was what was told to 330 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: me by somebody in the Washington organization, and just the 331 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: fact that it was going to be a ceremonial come out, 332 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: take a knee, and everybody gives you a round of applause. 333 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: But he'll join us about twenty minutes from now. We'll 334 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: take a break. Phone calls coming up. Update our poll 335 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: results right after this in The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks 336 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 337 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon 338 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 339 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: Find your local station for the Dan Patrick Show at 340 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 341 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: day on the Art Radio app by searching f s 342 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: R or stream us live on the Peacock app. Oh, 343 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: now I'm hearing from the Michael Jordan fans. You got 344 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: to give equal time. You gave Nick Wright all that 345 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: time to talk about Lebron. You know what, Jordan fans, 346 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: You've had your equal time. You got a ten part series. 347 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: You got your time. Mark Stein, NBA insider says the 348 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: Rockets interviewed ty Lou on Monday, also being pursued by 349 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: the Clippers and New Orleans. Rockets assistant coach John Lucas 350 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: expect to do interview for the Houston vacancy, and Jeff 351 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: Van Gundhi is expected to interview as well. This courtesy 352 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: of Mark Stunt. We'll talk to Alex Smith set to 353 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Jonas in a little bit. And just that thought of 354 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: putting on that uniform and running out on the field 355 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: this past weekend, and how much is like, do you 356 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: want to be the starting quarterback? Are you going to 357 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: get a chance to be the starting quarterback? So I 358 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: don't know how real it is but he came in 359 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: for Kyle Allen who was banged up, So like it 360 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: wasn't lost on me. If you would have said, hey, 361 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: Alex Smith is going to replace somebody who got banged 362 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: up on the football field, I go, no, not the 363 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: Alex Smith we know. And then I saw him come 364 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: on the field and go, well, he's got to come 365 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: in because Kyle Allen got banged up. Yeah, time, And 366 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: we're watching nervously every time he's about to get hit 367 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: or he gets tackled, that what if he doesn't get 368 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: up or his leg bends a certain way and something 369 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: horrible happens. To imagine being actually him to be brave 370 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: enough to go out there and be able to focus 371 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: on country knowing that one hit could do something devasting. 372 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: Again to that let well, I don't even know if 373 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: he's processing that, but his wife has to be. If 374 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: she's in the stands watching that game, and you know, 375 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: she has no control over he's out there, he's playing, 376 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: he's competing. She's just got to go, oh my god, 377 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: I gotta hold my breath. She might be a better 378 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: interview than him at this moment everything she's gone through, 379 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: because you know, when you go through something when you 380 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: see one of your kids or if it's your wife, 381 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: they go through your parents, they go through something like 382 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: you're helpless. But you know when you go through it, 383 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: you know you just have like blinders on tunnel vision. 384 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: But those who are on the outside watching you and 385 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: they have no they can't help you, they can't control anything. 386 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: That's when it's you know, you're you're basically helpless. Nick 387 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: and South Carolina. Hey Nick, what do you have for 388 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: me today? Hey, I kind of take you backing off 389 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: of what Nick Wright said obviously given contacted me directly 390 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: for tree advice, but my phone's always open. I listened 391 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: to Jimmy Traina. Is your interview with Jimmy trains traina 392 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and if somebody in the industry, 393 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: I just really appreciated the general advice that you're giving 394 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: on there is a really good interview, and it's just 395 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: really nice to hear from somebody that's been in for 396 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: a while, somebody that hasn't been at it for quite 397 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: so long. All right, Well, thank you, Nick, and good luck. 398 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: I always tell people, if this is what you want 399 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: to do, be ready to hear the word no. Get rejected. 400 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: And that that's just that starts out your career. Because 401 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: people graduate from college and I always tell them, you know, 402 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: you graduate, you know, congratulations, that doesn't mean you get 403 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: a job in this business. And there are students who 404 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: are under that impression that they go through journalism or 405 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: broadcasting or communications, they get out and they're waiting for 406 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: a job. If you don't start when you're in high school, interns, internship, 407 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: then you're you're you're well behind everybody else in the game. 408 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: And it is who you know, volunteer. You don't have 409 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: to get paid whatever it takes to get in a building, 410 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: to get in with any you know, kind of TV station, 411 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: if it's a podcast somebody's doing, if it's a radio show, anything, 412 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: but look at everybody in here who started out with nothing. 413 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, guys in the back, they're but they're in 414 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: the building and they get to do things now. And 415 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: the roles that you find out and they once you're 416 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: on the inside, that's when you find out about job openings. 417 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what open to me. My first professional 418 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: job is I was running religious tapes on Saturday night 419 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: to Sunday morning, nine hours and the only time I 420 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: went on the air, I would say, you're listening to 421 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: Wutue Dayton's best rock and roll. I don't think it 422 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: sounded that good. You're listening to w Tue Dayton's best 423 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: rock and roll. And that's that was all I was doing. 424 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: I would occasionally fill in as a disc jockey opening 425 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: morning Drive news and I was in the building and 426 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: I got the audition and I got the job. If 427 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: I'm not running religious tapes on Saturday night to Sunday 428 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: morning for nine hours, I'm not getting that opportunity there now. 429 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll run religious tapes on weekends, you know, just 430 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, kind of go in old school, little throwback 431 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: action there, just to you know, kind of feel good. 432 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: I remember the Power Hour or something like that. I 433 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 1: remember all the you know, I did. How I do 434 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: is put it on a reel to reel and I 435 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: would I'd had to queue it up and then I'd 436 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: fired at the top of the hour. And at the time, 437 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: my other job is I was mowing greens at Jack 438 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: Nicholas golf course outside of Cincinnati, and I graduated from 439 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: college golf though. Yeah, but if you work with a 440 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: golf course, the last thing you want to do is 441 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: go back to the golf course to play, but I 442 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: would just mow greens. I'd get in there, like you know, 443 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: five thirty six in the morning, go out, you'd mow 444 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: the greens. I'd be done by two or three in 445 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: the afternoon. And then on weekends I would run religious tapes. 446 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: Whatever it takes. Even when I volunteered at the local 447 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: TV station, I got paid fifty dollars to go cover 448 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals in the reds and I was driving down 449 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: from Dayton, so you know, by time, I'm paying for 450 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: gas and whatever. All I did is get sound interviews. 451 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: But it allowed me in the building. Then I got 452 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: to do the weekend I filled in weekend anchor, but 453 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: I was in the building. That's the advice that I 454 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: would give you. But get ready to hear the word no, 455 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: but don't accept the word no. Some phone calls here, 456 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: I'll get off my soapbox. Phill and Indiana hate Phil. 457 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: Good to have you back, buddy, Dan. It's always my pleasure. 458 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: And real quick, Dan, You're one of the classiest people 459 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: I've ever watched or listened to. You're really a really 460 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: great man. I wanted to just comment Dan, the passing 461 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: of Joe Morgan. I know you're a big Reds fan, 462 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: so was I. I think you'd have to put him, Dan, 463 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts. You'd have to put 464 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: him probably in the top five second basement of all time. 465 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean he was the catalyst on that big Red machine, 466 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: which was, as you know, really impressive to watch. Thanks Dan, 467 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: all right, thank you Phil. I would have to kind 468 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: of look at the second baseman in history. Yeah. Mcglevin. 469 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: I would think that that's not a debate. I think everybody, 470 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: if you said, top the top of your head, who's 471 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: top five second baseman, Joe more gould be way up. Yeah. 472 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: I don't know who would be above him. I mean 473 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: they're MVPs, right, yeah, back to back MVPs. But I 474 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: don't I don't know, you know, off the top of 475 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: my head. When you talk about great second baseman, you know, 476 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: Robbie Alamar comes to mind. Uh, I don't know who 477 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: else is? Yeah, Rhino Rhino was. He was great, but 478 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: he never played in a big moment um. Yeah, he 479 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: had good statsy Trio, don't forget him, you know, Biggio, 480 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: but he played catcher, second base, in center field. But 481 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: I I you know, I'm sure I'm leaving out five 482 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: guys who should be mentioned here. Yeah, Pa, Rod Crew 483 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: played carew played a bunch of positions, right, did he 484 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: mix it up a little bit? I know he played 485 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: some second base. Yes, I remember him just being a 486 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, I can't remember Rod Crew being in the field. 487 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: I always remember him at the plate because it looked 488 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: like he was falling asleep with the bat, like a 489 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: bat was just barely in his hands there. But he's 490 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: one of the one of the great hitters of all time. 491 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: But I don't I don't know one other second and 492 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: basement come to mind there. Uh, Jackie Robinson certainly, Um, yeah, 493 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Joe would Joe would have had better stats than Jackie Robinson. 494 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: But of course Jackie's place in history. But yeah, I'm 495 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: sure that Joe, if I ever said that to him, 496 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: might be like, Hey, I'm gonna put you over Jackie Robinson. 497 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: He probably say, Nope, You're not doing that. Yes, Fritzie, 498 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: because I was doing a little starts. Lou Whittaker Saint Louis. 499 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: But he's not in the Hall of Fame, is he 500 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: or did he get in? I don't know if he 501 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: and Trammel, I mean that was a great double bay combination. 502 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: And they like Frank White and Davey Lopes, Bobby Gritch there. Yeah, 503 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: but they're not in that. They're not in that conversation. 504 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: Not with Morgan. Yeah, mclevan, I don't think he played 505 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: it that much. But remember when Yat was a shortstop 506 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: and Malder was a second from the Brewers. That was great, 507 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: great double play combination as well. Then yell it went 508 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: to center field. All right, we'll take a break and 509 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: uh we'll connect hopefully with Alex Smith, the Washington football 510 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: team quarterback. Coming up next. More phone calls as well, 511 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: Dan and The Danas Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening 512 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show pod cast. Be sure to 513 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern 514 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and you 515 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or 516 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. Talk to the 517 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: former Yankee great CC Sabathia. He'll join us coming up 518 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: next hour as we dissect some of the playoff action 519 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 1: from yesterday and last night. You got Braves Dodgers. This 520 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: might be it's not the biggest start of Clayton Kershaw's career, 521 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: but it's up there because the Dodgers losing to the 522 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: Braves last night. The Raisin Astros go at it again 523 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: Bills and Titans in a special Tuesday night game. He's 524 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback for the Washington football team. He's Alex Smith. 525 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Kind enough to join us, Alex, I'll get to you 526 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: in a moment. How's your wife doing. She's doing good. 527 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: I think she obviously put her through some stress on Sunday, 528 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: but she was pumped. She was just as excited as me. 529 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: I think, especially going out there and doing it and 530 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: getting through it and you know, get that first hit 531 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: out of the way. Um. But yeah, I think she 532 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: definitely was was feeling it on some day because I'm 533 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: watching and you know, she can't do anything about it. 534 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: Your kids are there, you know, they probably say dad's 535 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: out on the field. Mom is probably going, oh my god, 536 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: we've been through so much. She's holding her head like 537 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: she doesn't know how to react there. Have you seen 538 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: the video of I saw the good clip and I 539 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: think it kind of sums it up. I feel like 540 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: my wife certainly there and you know, feeling feeling it. 541 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: You could you could see the stress on her face 542 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously concern and my daughter's oblivious, my 543 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: four year old daughters dancing next to her in a stadium. 544 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: You know, my boys are I think my bloys were 545 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: a little more in tune, but they still you know, 546 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: I don't think kind of a great idea and just 547 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: kind of taking it into dad's back out there. Um, 548 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: but yeah, it was. It was fun funny to see that. 549 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: I was. I was really happy they got to be there. 550 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: You know, we hadn't had fans the first couple of 551 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: home games, so I was I was pumped that the 552 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: family's got to come out and they got to be 553 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: there with me because my wife has been through so 554 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: much the last couple of years with me and so 555 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: so cool we're to be there and to share with me. 556 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: But I also wonder if it helped that you didn't 557 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: have a week to prepare for this moment, Like it 558 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: was just hey Alex lad on the field. Yeah, and 559 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: a lot of ways you're right, like rip the band 560 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: aid off. It was like as soon as the hit 561 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: happened on Kyle, I knew it was. It was a 562 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: good one, and uh yeah, I went over to grab 563 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: my helmet. I was like let's go. It's time to 564 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 1: time to go, you know, warm up a little bit, 565 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: get a few frozen and get a cup of snaps, 566 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: and like no time to think. Um in that sense, yeah, 567 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: it was. It was kind of nice, just let's let's go, 568 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: no build up, straight to it. So yeah, and in 569 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: a lot of ways thankful that for that. You know, 570 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: for me, it's also it's been it's been hard with 571 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: no offseason, no preseason, um, you know, take away the 572 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: take away the injury. For me, it's obviously being out 573 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: of football for two years as well, and so for 574 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: me taking advantage of the reps getting back in um 575 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: what it's like. So it was nice to get thrust 576 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: out there, especially into a two minute drill where it's 577 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of just just go to play and reacting. For me, 578 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: a lot of that, I think those instincts knowing that 579 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: that all, they're just kind of I felt like I 580 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: hadn't left, So it was nice to get back in 581 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: there and getting the mix. But I know this may 582 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: sound strange. What felt more like football the pass that 583 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: you complete or Aaron Donald trying to take your head 584 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: off like I always as a quarterback, and this has 585 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: been my entire career, and only coaches I think talk 586 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: to you about, you know, as far as getting into 587 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: a rhythm, and for me, it's it's kind of one 588 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: or the other. Get it, get a good completion or 589 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: get hit, you know, And I think both as a 590 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: as a QB kind of help you get into the game, 591 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: into the fluid things. So nice for me to kind 592 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: of knock knock both those out pretty early. Did Aaron 593 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: Donald say anything to you, like when he's trying to 594 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: tackle you, I mean, everybody knows what you've been obviously. 595 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: The one time when I didn't know it was him 596 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: that jumped on my back, I mean I knew it 597 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: at some point. I felt like it was in slow motion, 598 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: I did. I'm like, I felt like I had a 599 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: body on my back, you know, and I'm standing there 600 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: and certainly, uh, you know, to know that I'm good 601 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: to go with that and obviously feeling strong out there, 602 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: So that was nice. Aaron's Aaron's obviously a heck of 603 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: a player, but uh, you know, obviously a really good 604 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: person as well. I've been around him a little bit 605 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: off season, so a ton of respect for him and 606 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: and loved loved it. Obviously he brings it, and so 607 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: it was nice out there to uh certainly get thrown 608 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: into the fire a little bit. Are you competing for 609 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: the starting john you know? For me, yeah, yeah, I 610 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: mean I got there and beat every single day, that's 611 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: the deal. You know. Camp was was a little different, 612 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: and I started on pub and and you know, obviously 613 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: a little bit had to go prove it that I 614 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: can do this, and so kind of starting behind the ball. 615 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: We got a couple of young quarterbacks that that obviously 616 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, getting the majority of the rep. So for 617 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: me trying to take advantage of my REP, to take 618 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: advantage of my opportunities out there and make the most 619 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: of them. And yeah, certainly this week to kind of 620 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: make to get bumped up to the two and know 621 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: that I was one play away and then I knew 622 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: the reality of that as much as anybody. So for 623 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: me being ready my numbers called, I'm ready to roll, 624 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: and uh, this this leaves about making the most of 625 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: your opportunities and so for me excited about whenever this 626 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: next one comes. He's Alex Smith. He is the quarterback 627 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: for the Washington football team. Last time you were on 628 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: the show, you got traded to Washington two hours later, yep, 629 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: did you know when you were in Minnesota that day 630 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: you were going to be traded? When he went on 631 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: the show, Am I under oath? Yes? You are? You 632 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: know there? That was kind of honestly, it was it 633 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: was it was ironic that that, you know, that day 634 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: kind of doing some of the media they are around 635 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: super Bowl that day. That was kind of the day 636 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: when a lot of that was actually going on, so 637 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: and then out a lot of that. I was kind 638 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: of getting updated um in between on my phone and 639 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: with with conversations. So that was the day it was happening. 640 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, certainly I knew. I knew things we were 641 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: in the mix. A little weird to be doing obviously 642 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: media in the middle of all that. Have you watched 643 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: the documentary on your comeback your surgeries? I did, Yeah, 644 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: I watched it. This obviouslyson inheritive was you know, it's 645 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: uh not only you know, a little bit scary obviously 646 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: to put all that out there, to let the cameras 647 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: in and try to be real. That was my goal 648 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: from the get go, and I decided to do it. 649 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: Was just I wanted to be honest and real and 650 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: not hide anything. And so yeah, you never know how 651 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: that's sometimes going to come out. So yeah, I was, 652 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 1: I like, it's like everybody else wanted to see, Uh, 653 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: I want to see it. I couldn't get through it. 654 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. No, I've had I've had six 655 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: surgeries on my knee, but nothing compared to that. And 656 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: I just I tried, and I at some point I went, 657 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: you could lose your leg, and you're you're allowing a documentary. 658 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know how close you could have died, 659 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: but I know that you were close to maybe losing 660 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: a portion of your leg. At any point, do you 661 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: say to your wife or do your wife saying no, 662 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: this is like let's get the cameras out of here. Yeah, 663 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: I think the thankful thing. Yeah, I mean, certainly when 664 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: I had set cists and and things were in my 665 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: life was kind of in danger at that point. I 666 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: honestly it was It's just just doctors just trying to 667 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: save my life. And then from there saved my leg. 668 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: And I think once once I had elected to to 669 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: to go with LIMP salvage and obviously the numerous surgeries 670 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: that that that was going to take um and the 671 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: unknown that that's when the documentary became you know, a 672 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: reality and once we headed down that road. And so 673 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: for me, it was a lot of thought that certainly 674 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: the uniqueness of the situation for me also the uniqueness 675 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: that a lot of the all the technology, even the surgeries, 676 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: the limp salvage surgery that I had a lot of 677 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: that was all perfected, um because of the servicemen and 678 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: women especially these last you know, twenty twenty five years 679 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and there had been so many 680 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: limb injuries, um, you know, from from the wars in 681 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: the Middle East. And so for me to kind of 682 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: benefit from the technology that of servicemen and women uh 683 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: you know had gone through, I think was part of 684 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: it for me that it really kind of made it worthwhile. 685 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: I was the first, obviously, I think athlete to kind 686 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: of go through this. Um. This was a kind of 687 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: uncharted territory as far as the road back, and there 688 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: was no guarantee that I was even going to get 689 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: beyond maybe even just trying to walk. And obviously that 690 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: was scary, UM and I'm thankful to be obviously where 691 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: I am today and for so many things. So yeah, 692 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: that was kind of the thought process for me that 693 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: that um, I wanted it. I was. I was benefiting 694 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: from so many people before me, and I felt like 695 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: I owed it to anybody coming after me to kind 696 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: of document it and help, you know, help progress. Can 697 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: you win come back Player of the Year after five weeks, Alex, 698 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't care. Help for me. That the feeling, the 699 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: feeling being out there, the emotions, the being on that edge. 700 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: So that's why I came back and certainly in the 701 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: middle of it right now and just taking it day 702 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: by day. So I wondered about this, and it's not 703 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: fair to put you in the position, but you know, 704 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: when Dad goes down with that kind of injury, and 705 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: this is a fraternity with quarterbacks, do you reach out? Yeah, 706 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: Guy's a great thing, you know asked, you know, for me, 707 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: especially with Dak, I feel like we have a ton 708 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: of common because he played for for you know, my 709 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: same coaches off through college, you know, a bunch of 710 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, Damn moll And Coasting and college. My good 711 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: friend Brian Johnson was his quarterback coach off through college. 712 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: So Dad's a guy I keep up with a lot, 713 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: certainly in the division as well, So I have a 714 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: ton of respect for I love his game. I love 715 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: him as a human being, everything he's about. So I 716 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: had just gotten home from the game, you know, celebrating, 717 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 1: you know, you know, taking it all with my wife 718 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: and kids, and we had to We had the Cowboy 719 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: game on, so watched it happen live. M Yeah, and 720 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I've become a little bit 721 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: of an expert, you know, the lower leg and so 722 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: ye had to look like his ankle immediately, and um, 723 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: you know, for me, yeah, thinking about him a lot. 724 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: I thought a lot about I've checked up on him 725 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: through our our mutual friends and seeing how he's doing. 726 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: I thought a lot about shooting in the text. Part 727 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: of me also didn't want to scare the hell out 728 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 1: of him by shooting him a text you might be heading. 729 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: I feel like I kind of want to let him. 730 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: I'll let the infection risk kind of get out of 731 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: the way and hopefully reach out here see it. Well, 732 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what the next chapter is, but you 733 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: gave us a hell of a one this past weekend. 734 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, like I said, I've been through 735 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: so many surgeries and you're going out there to play 736 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: football and that's completely different. So my admiration for you 737 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: as a man. I mean, that's that's impressive stuff. And 738 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: certainly your wife to be able to be there, because 739 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: I know how important that is have that support because 740 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: without that, you know, maybe you're not you're not here, 741 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: You're not in this moment right now. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, 742 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: thank you, Dan, appreciate it. Thank you. Alex As Alex 743 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: Smith the quarterback for the Washington football team, and I 744 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: couldn't get through the documentary. It was you know, Plus 745 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: he's in the moment, it's different. But if I'm his wife, 746 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: then I'm saying, get these cameras out of here, like 747 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: I gotta worry my husband's gonna live. And then I'm 748 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: worried if he's gonna have he's gonna be able to walk. 749 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: And then he's saying, you know what happened in Iraq 750 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: and Afghanistan, all of those men and women you know 751 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: who would lose a leg. And he said he benefited 752 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: from that, so powerful stuff. Powerful stuff. And he's thirty six. 753 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: Like Reggie Bush was his high school teammate. You know, 754 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush hadn't played football in a few years, and 755 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: here he is out of football for two years, trying 756 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: to come back and play and then getting into a 757 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: game and then saying I want to compete for the 758 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: starting job. Yeah, mcclem was that a good thing that 759 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: he didn't know it was Aaron Donald on his back 760 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: wet to freaked him out if he had known who 761 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: it was. Well, I don't know if they gave you 762 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: a stress test in the hospital where they go we're 763 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: gonna put three hundred and thirty pounds on you. If 764 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: it's Aaron Donald, you know, maybe that's a whole new rehab. Hey, uh, 765 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: let's see, we're gonna put in Dominican sue on your 766 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: back right now. Just the amount of weight. Yeah, Paul, 767 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: that's what I was thinking when it was like the 768 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: worst first hit you could have if you're Alex Smith. 769 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't like a grazing shot to the shoulder or 770 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: some guy that grabs him and pulls him down. He 771 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: has the thickest defensive lineman in the league. He really 772 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: jumped on his back like a piggybat. And Aaron Donald's 773 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: not thinking about report, you know what in the past 774 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: of the quarterback when he's doing they should doing his job. 775 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, that's the worst thing. And 776 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: plus he didn't mean to be funny, but he said, 777 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to reach out to dak 778 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,479 Speaker 1: as if to alarm him, like, hey, you know you're 779 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: you're in the same boat as I was. Yeah, it's done, 780 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: and you want to be a supportive wife. But if 781 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: everything they went through, you would think some wives might 782 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: be you know, this is it. We were done with football. 783 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: Let's thank god you're alive and you didn't lose your leg. 784 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know how you could stand 785 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: by him to that extent, Have you that brave and 786 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 1: then be fine with him going back out there again. Yeah, 787 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: because it's more on her than it is on him, 788 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: because she has to just watch. And you know, having 789 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: been there, when you watch somebody you love have surgery, 790 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: even going through childbirth, like you you can't do anything 791 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 1: about it. You're you're there, but you can't do anything 792 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,959 Speaker 1: about it. And here she is in the stands, she's 793 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: holding her head like, oh my god, and his kids 794 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: are reacting like yay, Dad's in the game, and then 795 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: mom is just going And she was quoted as saying 796 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: she was nauseous, like she was feeling sick while watching him. Yeample, 797 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: you do remember the last time he's in studio with 798 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Super Bowl week and we did not know 799 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: he was going to be traded to the Redskins hours earlier. 800 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: Hours later, and we were throwing the football around, and 801 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: I think mclovin said to him, give me a fastball. 802 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: It's not like it's Mahomes. I shouldn't have any problem 803 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: with it. I think that's what you said to Alex 804 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: Smith last time we saw. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But for 805 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: some reason he didn't seem bug that day. Dan. It 806 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: was weird. Is it almost as if he knew something? Yeah? 807 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: And now we find out when he said in my 808 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: under oath, and I realized that he did know Jeff 809 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: and Detroit joins us. So, Jeff, what's on your mind today? What? 810 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: No one time for chat Row? I'm calling this morning, Dan, 811 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: because I owe you an apology. I needed to do 812 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: a little research. I did not know that the Cowboys 813 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: offered dak Pruscott thirty three million with one hundred million guarantee. 814 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: And excuse me, but I really don't know any broke 815 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: Cowboy quarterbacks. I mean it's like you get the penthouse, 816 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: you get the limits, and you get all of the perks. 817 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: All you have to do is do something decent with 818 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, You'll be the man forever. So that's 819 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: n That was his fault and I like to just 820 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: say big ups to Mark Cuban going off finding Delonte West. 821 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: My cousin sent me a picture. He was panhandling on 822 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: the side of the road having mental problems, drug issues. 823 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban went out hisself, found Delonte and got him 824 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: into a treatment program. I don't know too many billionaires 825 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: that would do that, So big up to Mark. He 826 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 1: got a big heart. Thank you, Joe. You know, Delonte West, 827 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: former NBA player, got him into rehab. Yeah, the whole 828 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: Dack situation. You know, best case scenario is probably going 829 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: to be they franchise him, But do you want to 830 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: see what that progress is like. You're not going to 831 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: be able to see him in a game. You're not 832 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: gonna offer him one hundred million dollars out of sympathy. 833 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: Final Hour coming up. CC Sabathia, the former Yankee Grape 834 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: will join US. Jan Patrick Shall