Speaker 1: Well, what's up friends, and welcome in to Fantasy Pros.
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Speaker 1: rest for us during the All Star break, really, But
Speaker 1: how are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing very well, my friend. It's sad that this
Speaker 2: is our last show, but it's been a good run.
Speaker 2: I hope we get to run it back again next year.
Speaker 2: It's been good talking to you guys, and I'll up
Speaker 2: the chat, ask your questions and hop on stage. Be
Speaker 2: on the pot of us. Because this is the final countdown.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. Let me start with a question
Speaker 1: for you here. This positively and negatively, the All Star
Speaker 1: break kind of represents, you know, the first and second half.
Speaker 1: But what we know is it's numerically that's not actually
Speaker 1: the case. There's less than half the games. But what
Speaker 1: it also represents is a time where you get a
Speaker 1: lot of checkouts. We're gonna have a period where there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a handful of teams that are gonna look
Speaker 1: at themselves and they're gonna go, I'm too far out,
Speaker 1: I'm completely done. I can't do it. So you have
Speaker 1: this weird dichotomy in fantasy baseball where you know there
Speaker 1: is still so much more to be done. This is
Speaker 1: where you win your league, but you also are going
Speaker 1: to be battling with teams that are going to be
Speaker 1: out of it, the trade market in general. FAB, What
Speaker 1: is your top singular or multiple piece of advice in
Speaker 1: the second half. Is it streaming? Is it FAB? Is
Speaker 1: it aggression? Is it trade market aggression? Is it actually
Speaker 1: maybe being a little bit more passive holding on to
Speaker 1: your players longer. What do you think a couple keys
Speaker 1: to winning this second half is?
Speaker 2: I think the big one for me is understanding your
Speaker 2: team and the construction of it. Where you are in
Speaker 2: the standings, and especially for roto players, look at where
Speaker 2: you are and what categories you need to make up.
Speaker 2: If you are way behind in certain categories, maybe it's
Speaker 2: time to give up on them. If you're a very
Speaker 2: dead last and stolen bases or home runs or certain categories,
Speaker 2: it might be time to give up on them. There
Speaker 2: are certain categories where you can see that there is
Speaker 2: a path for you to make a push up the standing,
Speaker 2: so you target those particular categories. It's really about understanding
Speaker 2: your team. If you're in fifteenth place in a fifteen
Speaker 2: team league and you got thirty two roto points and
Speaker 2: you maybe don't need to devote any more time to
Speaker 2: that league. As crappy as it might sound, you know,
Speaker 2: people say, well, there's a something to be had for
Speaker 2: going from fifteenth to tenth if you can move up
Speaker 2: in the standings of this part of the year. But
Speaker 2: I think prioritizing those teams that actually have a shot
Speaker 2: is what makes the most sense. You spend the most
Speaker 2: time researching those teams as opposed to trying to have
Speaker 2: some you know, moral victory by moving up a couple
Speaker 2: points at the bottom of the standings, really understand your teams,
Speaker 2: understands which ones have a shot, and then I think
Speaker 2: you give yourself the best chance to actually compete for
Speaker 2: the league title or to finish in the money in
Speaker 2: those spots where you actually legitimately have a chance. Just
Speaker 2: about understanding where you have a chance. If you're in
Speaker 2: tenth or eleventh place in a twelve time leads, it's
Speaker 2: probably time to give up on that league.
Speaker 1: I like the one of really understanding, having a true
Speaker 1: understanding of your team, your needs, and whether you're punting
Speaker 1: a strategy or going hard on a strategy like this
Speaker 1: is the time to do it. Whether you do it
Speaker 1: in the trademarket, whether you do it in the whether
Speaker 1: it's a trade market or the waiver market, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: is just like really understanding the construction of your team
Speaker 1: where your benefits are. Obviously rodos a little bit easier
Speaker 1: because you physically look and you're like, okay, I'm in
Speaker 1: this category. But it's making that understanding and coming to terms,
Speaker 1: especially if you're head to head being like, all right,
Speaker 1: I should let this go. If I'm consistently losing week
Speaker 1: in and week out on saves, the save market is
Speaker 1: kind of blah, and I've got maybe I drafted one
Speaker 1: hero save guy and then I got it like one
Speaker 1: or two other just middling, but I just consistently lose.
Speaker 1: Maybe it is punting that category. Maybe you can sell
Speaker 1: that closer to jump ahead in another spot. So I
Speaker 1: think the understanding of your team is massive important, massively important,
Speaker 1: and kind of in the same vein as being as
Speaker 1: active as you possibly can. Fantasy baseball is a grind,
Speaker 1: and you've had a sea you feel like you've already
Speaker 1: put in a full season. You've got this second half
Speaker 1: of a season going where your twelve team league might
Speaker 1: now be eight active, or your Rodo might only be
Speaker 1: seven active in that, you've got to be as proactive
Speaker 1: as possible and your ability to stream pitchers if you
Speaker 1: don't have caps, paying attention to hot turnarounds, maybe not
Speaker 1: dropping too instantly a player that's been solid for you know,
Speaker 1: the shiny new toy, and as the season gets a
Speaker 1: little bit further along, maybe having a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a stomach for cutting your dead weight. That's what
Speaker 1: fantasy baseball is all about, and you know all you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to find a trendy. Every fantasy winner has
Speaker 1: like one or two guys that they probably picked up
Speaker 1: in August or September that's going to help carry them
Speaker 1: in some capacity, whether they're the number one carrier or
Speaker 1: top five on their fantasy team. So be active in that.
Speaker 1: But just you know, a couple of little tricks of
Speaker 1: the trade for this final run here, because baseball is
Speaker 1: unlike any other It just it goes long and you
Speaker 1: can have those leads, or you can have this great
Speaker 1: team and it can fall apart, or I have had
Speaker 1: a couple instances where I was I remember I was
Speaker 1: a team Bog will remember this. I was a team
Speaker 1: that was out of it in this one league I
Speaker 1: sold off and it was a dynasty I sold off,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, because of some of
Speaker 1: the pickups I made, I started winning. I squeaked into
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I ended up getting to the championship
Speaker 1: on a team that I sold off three or four pieces,
Speaker 1: just by having these like rentally waiver guys out there,
Speaker 1: so you know, being proactive and understanding your team, it's
Speaker 1: the key key point here, mister Joe Rico.
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, And like you you kind of alluded to it,
Speaker 2: like some of that dead weight, like you might have
Speaker 2: been waiting for the whole season for Michael Hay to
Speaker 2: turn it around, for Matt McClain to turn it around,
Speaker 2: you know, Brenton Doyle.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of these.
Speaker 2: Names, Ozzie Albi's, and it gets to a point where
Speaker 2: it's like, well, maybe it's just not their year and
Speaker 2: it's time to just move on from some of these
Speaker 2: players as opposed to just waiting and waiting because they
Speaker 2: were top one hundred draft picks. So I think part
Speaker 2: of cutting that dead weight and moving on, like this
Speaker 2: is a point of the year where it's like you've
Speaker 2: given guys some rope, You've given them more than an
Speaker 2: or about one hundred games at this point, and now
Speaker 2: it's time where you can probably start to move on
Speaker 2: from some of those guys who've been truly, truly disappointing.
Speaker 1: Put a pin in the Ozzie one. That's a good
Speaker 1: one because at the end here we want to answer
Speaker 1: some of our listener questions. But I want to talk
Speaker 1: about a few guys, and I'll just tease it right now.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Ozzy and some players. Are you comfortable
Speaker 1: with them in the second half? Are you going to
Speaker 1: buy into them being able to either turn it around
Speaker 1: in a way that's worth buying or turn it in
Speaker 1: around in a way that is worth holding. And I
Speaker 1: think Ozzie's maybe the first one we can talk about.
Speaker 1: But let's get to the audience here. Always under says,
Speaker 1: hey should I pick up Zebi Junk? I was about
Speaker 1: to say, is that the same person? But Zebby Comma
Speaker 1: Junk or Schlitzler and drop Geo, Jacob Lopez or Shean.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about the three potential pickups
Speaker 1: versus the three drops? And then I'll go on to
Speaker 1: the rest of the question after.
Speaker 2: So Zebby, I I don't know if there's been any
Speaker 2: like new update on him or anything, but he was
Speaker 2: really pretty disappointing earlier on when he was pitching this year.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm going to be rushing out
Speaker 2: to grab him necessarily. Junk and Schlitler are guys that
Speaker 2: I am kind of interested in at this point, specifically
Speaker 2: Schlitler if he's able to stick around playing for a
Speaker 2: good team, because Junk is not gonna have a ton
Speaker 2: of win opportunities out there in Miami. I think you'd
Speaker 2: be all right to drop Lopez and Sheen and pick
Speaker 2: up junkin Schlitler Dio. Assuming we're talking Lucas Giolito. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's been really good, so I'd be holding onto him
Speaker 2: over Zebby in this situation. But I think Junk and
Speaker 2: Schlitler you can you can pick him up over Lopez
Speaker 2: and Sheen.
Speaker 3: I'd be fine with.
Speaker 1: That, completely agree Schlitler say his name very carefully when
Speaker 1: we say it, one hundred percent, I would move over
Speaker 1: those guys. He also said also option I could drop
Speaker 1: our Darvish and Edward Cabrera or Profar. I'm definitely not
Speaker 1: dropping Cambrera. I mean, we're kind of bracing for the injury.
Speaker 1: I think I think we got it like Lopez and
Speaker 1: she and are fine for those two. Like I'm not
Speaker 1: sold on Darvish or anything like that, but I think
Speaker 1: that's the move. Another question, and my final question, would
Speaker 1: be should I drop Jacob Wilson and grab Nick Kurtz.
Speaker 1: I've got both of them in a couple leagues, but
Speaker 1: one league, I have another good shortstop, and I have
Speaker 1: Sodastrom at first base. So should I grab Kurtz and
Speaker 1: drop Jacob Wilson or Sodastrom or should I not add
Speaker 1: Nick Kurtz? What do you think?
Speaker 2: I can't believe that Nick Kurtz is still available is
Speaker 2: bruly shocking. But what those options, I'd be all right
Speaker 2: to move on from Soderstrom. I mean we haven't really
Speaker 2: gotten much from him outside of that first run of
Speaker 2: the season. I mean he's been serviceable, I guess, but
Speaker 2: really that first month was unbelievable and then Ay was
Speaker 2: a ninety four WRC, plus June was eighty seven. He's
Speaker 2: had a pretty decent July so far. But I think
Speaker 2: given the options, I think I'd prefer to drop Soderstrom.
Speaker 2: I guess it really depends on that. On that shortstop situation,
Speaker 2: and if you actually have to like sit one of
Speaker 2: them every day, then I guess Wilson could be dropped
Speaker 2: at that point. But my initial feeling here is to
Speaker 2: drop Sodashrim for Kurtz. But Kurts being on the wire
Speaker 2: is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Agreed, completely agree. I do think there's probably spots for
Speaker 1: Jacob Wilson, like you said, like maybe don't make sense.
Speaker 1: You need like heavy counting stats and you know he's
Speaker 1: never really playing okay, But I would just I'll take
Speaker 1: Kurts over Sodastrom like in a vacuum, So I think
Speaker 1: we're solid there. I cannot, and I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe Nick Kurtz is available. Can you know
Speaker 1: what makes me sick too? I had just the other
Speaker 1: day I did look at DK's draft odds before Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year and cam Smith had actually moved back
Speaker 1: up to number one, which is great for me because
Speaker 1: I placed a bet. I had placed a bet on
Speaker 1: Christian Campbell and then before that though I had placed
Speaker 1: a bet on cam Smith, great odds, very excited, but
Speaker 1: because Jacob Wilson had been holding that thing. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine if you would have jumped in on Nick Kurtz,
Speaker 1: like a month or two, you probably got twenty to one.
Speaker 1: And I'm not looking at the odds right now. I
Speaker 1: can look it up here in a second, but I
Speaker 1: cannot imagine that you didn't get incredible odds. And the
Speaker 1: al side has just completely opened up. So let me
Speaker 1: see if I can find it real quick under awards
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year Jacob. So they're all plus money,
Speaker 1: all plus money now Jacob Wilson has the lead according
Speaker 1: to DK at plus one ten. Cam Smith is plus
Speaker 1: one forty yo. Nick Kurtz is still three and a
Speaker 1: half to one right now, Roman Anthony, if you want
Speaker 1: really fun odds, just throwing it out there, twenty five
Speaker 1: to one as the Red Sox are winning games. But
Speaker 1: like if you guys remember that was like a minus
Speaker 1: like five hundred in favor of Jacob Wilson some time ago.
Speaker 1: So Cam Smith is in play, and Nick Kurtz, I think,
Speaker 1: is really in play, and I'm actually kind of shocked
Speaker 1: we're still getting that good of odds. It's just when
Speaker 1: players on the same team they can kind of eat
Speaker 1: into each other. That actually might kind of speak well
Speaker 1: to Cam Smith. If we're being honest, But what do
Speaker 1: you think if you were placing If you're placing a
Speaker 1: bet right now, at least you get plus money across
Speaker 1: the board, who would you side within the Al Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably going to be kouraged the way
Speaker 2: he's trending. The guy that's kind of interesting, honestly is
Speaker 2: Carlos Narvaiaz in Boston, the catcher. He's playing phenomenal defense.
Speaker 2: He's got eight home runs, he's hitting two seventy three.
Speaker 3: He's got the.
Speaker 2: Same war as Jacob Wilson if you're looking at fangrafts
Speaker 2: war or the lead in the American League. So I
Speaker 2: think that he could be a dark horse potentially playing
Speaker 2: in Boston going to get more media.
Speaker 3: Love than playing in Sacramento. Potentially.
Speaker 2: Cam Smith is also pretty interesting because he's been phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Picked him up in a couple of places and he's
Speaker 2: been a.
Speaker 1: Fantastic Really you want to hear this, April's say, I'm
Speaker 1: so sad. This is probably gonna be just if you
Speaker 1: guys remember last year. I'm very proud of this even
Speaker 1: though it didn't hit. But preseason I had bet Jackson
Speaker 1: Merrill rookie of the Year seventeen U seventeen to one.
Speaker 1: And if you guys remember, I have an autographed card
Speaker 1: from Jackson, who inscribed my odds I got on it.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite cards. I got Camp and
Speaker 1: I think this is going to go the same way
Speaker 1: I got cam Smith twenty five to one, and my bet,
Speaker 1: they're not even offering any type of payout right now.
Speaker 1: I guess because he's second. But I'm just staring at
Speaker 1: this with a massive twenty five to one return and
Speaker 1: he's second best odds right now, So I'm like, please,
Speaker 1: Cam Smith, please let Kurtz and Jacob Wilson eat into
Speaker 1: each other. My luck, he'll probably finish second and I'll
Speaker 1: have another year where my amazing long shot bet doesn't
Speaker 1: pay off. I'm they give me a nice buyout, I
Speaker 1: might consider it, So it's.
Speaker 3: Fine when you're working. Oh what el was Skis, wasn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Skeens wan, Yeah, there was a legit time where Skeens
Speaker 1: and Merrill were going back and forth. I never got
Speaker 1: offered a buyout on Meryll, and I probably would have
Speaker 1: taken it if it would have been good, because he
Speaker 1: had about a week or so where he was the
Speaker 1: odds on favorite, but then it was like runaway skins
Speaker 1: and it was very, very sad for my book Austin
Speaker 1: Riley and CJ. Abrams. Is that a fair trade for
Speaker 1: Miserowski and Bett's ten team Rodo keeper ten keepers in there?
Speaker 1: So Riley Abrams for Bett's Miserowski. Which side do you like?
Speaker 2: It feels pretty fair on both sides. Honestly, I don't
Speaker 2: know that I have a strong preference. I guess the
Speaker 2: Riley side is probably safer just because Miserowski, like we've
Speaker 2: talked about, or like Joe's talked about a lot, He's
Speaker 2: gonna eventually need to have Tommy John surgery. You can't
Speaker 2: be throwing one hundred and two with ninety seven miles
Speaker 2: mile and our sliders and stay healthy forever.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you would say.
Speaker 1: That about Chris Sale, but that was I guess more
Speaker 1: about his arm. It's it is a different situation.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was Sale throwing sliders at ninety seven.
Speaker 1: No, no, That's what I'm saying, Like you're right, like
Speaker 1: the Sale throws more sweepy stuff, but it was it
Speaker 1: was more of his arm action. But I just I
Speaker 1: always remember every human being forever, which just like Chris
Speaker 1: Zille is gonna have Tomy John. Criszill's and have Tommy John.
Speaker 1: And it was just like okay, yeah, until.
Speaker 2: He did and then Bets, I mean Bets, Bets has
Speaker 2: had kind of a down year. He's getting older, so
Speaker 2: there is some risk on that side. With Riley and Abrams,
Speaker 2: You're getting two guys who are fairly young. Riley should
Speaker 2: in an ostensibly good offense going forward in Atlanta, although
Speaker 2: I know that's not been true the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think the Nationals offense is positioned
Speaker 2: to be really good for the next couple of years
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: As much as c J.
Speaker 2: Abrams isn't somebody that I've always been a big fan of.
Speaker 2: That side's probably safer, but I think value wise, it's
Speaker 2: fair on both On both ends, I.
Speaker 1: Think it's pretty fair. Bets is the oldest still, you know,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have a bounce back, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: go well for his value. Abrams is really interesting. You
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna just say, I think this is fair.
Speaker 1: I kind of think the Miserowski Bets side might be
Speaker 1: the sexiest ten team keepers. It's not quite a dynasty,
Speaker 1: so all of these guys are keepers. Though I think
Speaker 1: it's relatively fair. I actually might side slightly with the
Speaker 1: Miserowski Bets side, especially if mis Like keeps going. But
Speaker 1: you know, two really good young talents in Riley and Abrams,
Speaker 1: I think it's relatively fair.
Speaker 3: Hal asks what do you think I was going to say?
Speaker 3: What do you think about him in the All Star Game?
Speaker 3: Do you think about that?
Speaker 1: It's whatever? I mean, like, personally, I do agree. I
Speaker 1: agree on the side of the players here that think
Speaker 1: this is lame, like Pat Murphy defended it being like, hey,
Speaker 1: come on, Goods, this is entertainment, and it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's also not like guys have bonuses attached to that.
Speaker 1: So I think that if he takes away Now. Thank
Speaker 1: god the Phillies paid out the All Star bonus to
Speaker 1: Cris Sanchez, who one hundred percent should have been the guy.
Speaker 1: For a guy to pitch twenty five innings and be
Speaker 1: in the All Star Game if there was no one
Speaker 1: else that was really worthy, if there wasn't a Chris Sanchez,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not going to cry about it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to like be up in arms and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, these kids but I think Pat Murphy's
Speaker 1: wrong and he's defending his guy. We can laugh that
Speaker 1: Hobby Bayez is the starting center fielder and what has
Speaker 1: he not played center in like forty games over Buxton,
Speaker 1: But that was the fans choice, and I already think
Speaker 1: that is moronic that we allow that to happen. This
Speaker 1: was on the manager side they decided to do this.
Speaker 1: I don't just think it's a flashy like you know, goofy,
Speaker 1: a spectacle like it's supposed to kind of be a spectacle,
Speaker 1: except players' money is attached to this, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of like an honor. So I think they're they're wrong
Speaker 1: in that aspect. But you know, like Misroowski's really cool,
Speaker 1: he's awesome, He's fun to see. It'll be fun to see.
Speaker 1: But you know, I do agree with the the players
Speaker 1: in that, like Chris Sanchez should have had that spot.
Speaker 1: I think they asked Ranger Suarez and he declined. After
Speaker 1: this all happened, kind of probably like in a little
Speaker 1: bit of a protest of it. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: are you like a fan of this?
Speaker 3: No? I wasn't a fan of it.
Speaker 2: I mean, not that it really matters, But like you said,
Speaker 2: when things like incentives are tied to it, when there's
Speaker 2: big money. I mean, fifty thousand dollars to them is
Speaker 2: not as much as it is to us, obviously, but
Speaker 2: it's still a good amount of money. So I'm glad
Speaker 2: the Philly's paid up. I think it should have been Sanchez.
Speaker 2: I've been a big Sanchez fan. But I think the
Speaker 2: people who are like, well, this is gonna help like
Speaker 2: grow the game.
Speaker 3: You're getting a young, exciting pitcher.
Speaker 2: And I think that part is bs because most people
Speaker 2: who are casuals who may or may not tune into
Speaker 2: the game are not going to have any idea who
Speaker 2: Miserowski is. Even if he throws a shutout in it,
Speaker 2: They're not going to really care who he is. There's
Speaker 2: casuals who are not really baseball fans necessarily, but there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people who didn't even know who Mike
Speaker 2: Trout was for a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, the casuals aren't going to be like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not watching that. Wait, Mizzerrowski's in now, I'm watching Like,
Speaker 1: no one's gonna do that, so give me a break.
Speaker 1: Maybe it'll give you a TikTok reel or something exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's silly. Just a reminder
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Speaker 1: I say, I don't know. I think we're going through
Speaker 1: the end of this month. They got to be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I'm not one hundred percent sure. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of craziness going on, but I know we're going
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Speaker 1: house question, but we got l TB three with the
Speaker 1: hand raised coming up on the chat LTB three, what
Speaker 1: is up?
Speaker 2: Brother?
Speaker 1: If you accept the thing and come up and hang
Speaker 1: with us? Right after we were talking all Star Misraowski.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if this is like an all Star
Speaker 1: based question or if we'll even get it because he's
Speaker 1: got to accept it and come up here, going once,
Speaker 1: going twice, and let's see, let's try it one more time.
Speaker 3: Did I like?
Speaker 1: Click it wrong?
Speaker 3: Sold?
Speaker 1: Sold?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: If you pop back up, you just let us know, brother.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going down, but let's get to
Speaker 1: the next one. This was how what is strategy for
Speaker 1: head to head with playoffs for young pitchers? He's got
Speaker 1: schemes Crochet, Burns, Miz and Bubich. What would be your
Speaker 1: strategy with two absolute banger of aces and Crochet and skins?
Speaker 1: But then you got Burns Miz and I don't know
Speaker 1: how you want to associate Bubitch in that, But what
Speaker 1: would be your strategy with the young guys?
Speaker 2: So Schemes and Crochet, there's nothing to really do, I
Speaker 2: don't think unless, like with all of these guys, there
Speaker 2: is some risk of shutdown. It's kind of mitigated for
Speaker 2: Crochet because he's pitching for a competitive team, whereas with
Speaker 2: the others it's kind of a kind of competitive Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: I guess. I think they've been decent and they're kind
Speaker 2: of in the mix, and since and Milwaukee is in
Speaker 2: the mix, yes, but I don't know that they're going
Speaker 2: to want to really risk anything with a guy like Miserowski,
Speaker 2: and I think the same thing with Burns. They'll probably
Speaker 2: not be shut down at all, But there is a
Speaker 2: risk with any of these young guys.
Speaker 3: At the end of the year, teams.
Speaker 2: Start to get a litle bit nervous and start throwing
Speaker 2: them like four innings, three innings. We saw it last
Speaker 2: year with Crochet when you start to push up against
Speaker 2: innings limits. So that's a possibility. Bubitch, I think, is
Speaker 2: the riskiest of this whole group, just because he is
Speaker 2: already kind of pushing up on his innings where you'd
Speaker 2: expect him to be for the entire year, just based
Speaker 2: on where he's been the last couple of seasons. So
Speaker 2: Buobach is somebody like I would be trying to actively
Speaker 2: sell the other guys varying degrees of risk. I guess
Speaker 2: Misrowski's probably fine, but I don't know. There is some
Speaker 2: risk with all of them. If you get a nice offer,
Speaker 2: especially if you get offered a hitter for any of them,
Speaker 2: or a pitcher who is on a competitive team, a
Speaker 2: truly competitive team, I think that makes a difference.
Speaker 3: But there is risk with all of these guys. There
Speaker 3: really is.
Speaker 1: I would definitely look to consolidate, especially Misroowski. I think
Speaker 1: Misrowski's value is so high. He's an All star. He
Speaker 1: looks incredible out there. I have to imagine there's some
Speaker 1: form of a cap that's in play. I will say,
Speaker 1: the Brewers need him, so I would listen if someone
Speaker 1: is really paying up burn I don't know if Burns'
Speaker 1: value is worth moving off what he potentially could provide,
Speaker 1: but I'm listening. I'm paying attention to the wire, and
Speaker 1: I'm really in the market to see if there's some
Speaker 1: like big type of trade that I can pull off.
Speaker 1: Especially for Mizerowski specifically, and as Hall said, you know,
Speaker 1: the four wins for Skeens is killing it, absolutely is.
Speaker 1: That's why I still hold that that Zach Wheeler bet
Speaker 1: that I brought up a long time ago Joe on
Speaker 1: the Betting Pros episode we did is the play because
Speaker 1: how and how can how first can Paul Skeens be
Speaker 1: the favorite cy Young with four wins? But also how
Speaker 1: can he win the award if he doesn't cross ten
Speaker 1: wins overall comparative to what like Zach Wheeler is doing
Speaker 1: or you know, even if you want to get into
Speaker 1: logan web, I just I think betting against Skeens on
Speaker 1: the cy Young is the best play with how bad
Speaker 1: that team is and four stupid wins for Skins, like legitimately,
Speaker 1: like what does he got maybe thirteen fourteen more wins?
Speaker 1: Like he has to win more than fifty percent of
Speaker 1: his games to get to double digits, which is it's.
Speaker 2: Crazy, yeahs pro, he started twenty games and the usual
Speaker 2: numbers thirty two sometimes thirty three starts, so yeah, he's
Speaker 2: got to win at least fifty percent. I think that
Speaker 2: Wheeler is going to be the cy Young winner. I've
Speaker 2: bet it myself. Numbers are close enough with him and
Speaker 2: with Skins. It depends on what metrics you look at specifically,
Speaker 2: some of them Skiings is better, some of them. Whe
Speaker 2: Wheeler has a better SIERRA, he's a better strike up.
Speaker 3: Minus walk rate.
Speaker 2: Skeens has a higher war he has a better FIP.
Speaker 2: So it kind of depends on which stats you look at.
Speaker 2: But Wheeler has been here for a long time. He's
Speaker 2: been a finalist for the award. He's thirty five years old.
Speaker 2: I think in the minds of the voters, this might
Speaker 2: be one of the last times and not the last time,
Speaker 2: that Wheeler puts up a season of this caliber, whereas
Speaker 2: with Paul Skeins, we're probably going to see ten or
Speaker 2: twelve more seasons of this caliber. So I think the
Speaker 2: voters are going to probably lean towards Wheeler if the
Speaker 2: underlying numbers are the same, especially because Wheeler has nine
Speaker 2: wins in nineteen starts. He's probably going to finish with
Speaker 2: he sixteen something like that.
Speaker 1: He's good. The current odds on Favorite now it's moved.
Speaker 1: He's minus one twenty five. But Skeins is also minus
Speaker 1: money at minus one oh five, So that's how close
Speaker 1: this can change last hall Ittt also said like how
Speaker 1: many more starts will he go? Five or more innings?
Speaker 1: I think they're really ratcheting down his innings right now.
Speaker 1: I think he'll kind of pair back up. But it's
Speaker 1: fair they're really babying Paul Skins right now. And you
Speaker 1: know what do they have to vuy for outside of
Speaker 1: him winning a cy Young which but I think don't
Speaker 1: make too much into that big dances. I have at
Speaker 1: least eight points in every category. Things to you guys
Speaker 1: currently in first place at ninety points. Just wanted to say,
Speaker 1: appreciate all the work you all put in. Oh, I
Speaker 1: appreciate that man that's so nice to you. And he
Speaker 1: had a question below saying which spar starting pitcher would
Speaker 1: you guys keep? I've got Hunter Brown or which three
Speaker 1: starting pitchers? Hunter Brown, Freddy Peralta, Yuri, Pez Miserawski. I'm
Speaker 1: leaning towards trying to trade Miserawski for a first baseman,
Speaker 1: maybe Naylor, vinp Kurtz. So I guess the question is
Speaker 1: is Miserowski who's on the outs here? Miserowski or Yuri?
Speaker 1: If you're keeping three pitchers, I mean Hunter Browns hasn't
Speaker 1: been pitching well, but he looks like you'd be like
Speaker 1: the number one.
Speaker 2: One on the outs for me, would probably be peralta
Speaker 2: of these guys.
Speaker 1: It's hard to well, yeah, I think I'm kind of
Speaker 1: with that one maybe, But I'm also I like the
Speaker 1: idea of trading Miserowski and even in a small keeper,
Speaker 1: but aim higher. See if you can aim higher than
Speaker 1: the guys that you're looking at, that's what I think
Speaker 1: you should.
Speaker 3: We're going to overpay.
Speaker 2: People are going to overpay for Maserowski right now, with
Speaker 2: all the hype and all the people putting him in
Speaker 2: like the top twenty pitching rankings. He's brilliant. He is
Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant. But I think you'd be able to get
Speaker 2: like a top thirty or forty overall player for him
Speaker 2: in the right deal.
Speaker 1: Agreed a last one here. In my first Roadow League ever,
Speaker 1: I've ranked eighth in saves, fourth and homers first, and
Speaker 1: stolen base eri whip first and win oh so first
Speaker 1: in stolen base eri whip first and wins second, a
Speaker 1: batting average third and RBI and last in saves right now,
Speaker 1: but projected to be seventh in saves should I forget
Speaker 1: homers and saves and focus on keeping this standing where
Speaker 1: I'm at, or maybe try to get homer and RBIs
Speaker 1: up even if it drops drops to second in stolen base,
Speaker 1: in third and batting average. So the question is which
Speaker 1: side are you going sans getting away from homers and
Speaker 1: saves and try to boost up the other categories or
Speaker 1: kind of hold suit.
Speaker 2: I'd forget about any projections for saves because it's a
Speaker 2: complete crap shoot and anybody, even the most accurate projections
Speaker 2: for saves are not going to be able to predict
Speaker 2: anything there.
Speaker 1: I think of how many guys might become new closers
Speaker 1: in the next three weeks. You might have three or
Speaker 1: four new closers on teams that sell off relievers that
Speaker 1: are in front exactly.
Speaker 2: Bednar might not be a closer Ken who knows what's
Speaker 2: going to happen over the next few weeks, So there
Speaker 2: could be some opportunity on the waiver wire to kind
Speaker 2: of make up ground in that case. So I think
Speaker 2: you kind of have to just evaluate your league for
Speaker 2: the next little while, see who's available, See among the
Speaker 2: closers in the league who you might be able to
Speaker 2: pick up, because I think you could viably just punt it.
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's an eight team league just based
Speaker 2: on the way you're describing eighth and last.
Speaker 3: So the fact that you're.
Speaker 2: First in the other you know, in four of the
Speaker 2: other category, second in batting average, I'm assuming you're winning
Speaker 2: this league. So I think you do have a little
Speaker 2: bit of leeway here to kind of see where the
Speaker 2: market goes with saves, if there's somebody you could pick up,
Speaker 2: if there's perhaps a trade. Because you mentioned your first
Speaker 2: and stolen bases, maybe there's a stolen base guy that
Speaker 2: you can trade off and try and boost up your
Speaker 2: saves a little bit. But I think you do have
Speaker 2: the luxury just projecting where you probably are in the
Speaker 2: standings to kind of just play it out until the
Speaker 2: trade deadline and just evaluate your team over the next
Speaker 2: couple weeks, and also just to see who becomes available.
Speaker 1: I couldn't add any much more to that. I think
Speaker 1: that's really great analysis. Quick let's do some quick hitting
Speaker 1: at the end second halfs buy or sell these players
Speaker 1: we mentioned Ozzie Albi's. Ozzie Albi's has just struggled on
Speaker 1: the year. Do you think you can trust in holding
Speaker 1: onto Albi's or do you need to just let go?
Speaker 1: So even outside of just buy, I'm not gonna even
Speaker 1: ask you to buy. If you're an Albi's owner, do
Speaker 1: you hold for a second half or are you worried
Speaker 1: that it's been so bad and this team is probably
Speaker 1: selling off that you don't want any part of it.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I don't want any part of it,
Speaker 2: but I think that we're getting to a point where
Speaker 2: there's not really much to hold out hope for. The
Speaker 2: team has been awful, and any sample size you look at,
Speaker 2: whether you break it down by the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: by the whole season, Atlanta has been miserable, miserable this year. Offensively,
Speaker 2: they are the eighteenth ranked team of the ninety seven
Speaker 2: WRC plus. So the surrounding environment's not helping him, and
Speaker 2: he's not helping you. Seven homers and seven steals. I
Speaker 2: guess it's not the end of the world if he
Speaker 2: finishes doubling that and it's like fifteen and fifteen. But
Speaker 2: he's hitting two twenty his twenty nine RBI, his on
Speaker 2: base percentage is two ninety. He's never getting on base
Speaker 2: to be scored. You know, the data has gone in
Speaker 2: the wrong direction in terms of the barrel rate, in
Speaker 2: terms of the hard hit rate. If you look at
Speaker 2: the plate discipline metrics, they're not too far off from normal.
Speaker 2: You know, zone contact, oh, swing swinging, strike rates, they're
Speaker 2: all about normal. But he's just not making good contact.
Speaker 2: You know, a three percent barrel rate, twenty nine percent
Speaker 2: hard hit rate, that's pretty terrible. He's barreled up eleven
Speaker 2: balls the entire season. So I just don't know that
Speaker 2: there's really much hope and thinking he's gonna turn around
Speaker 2: this year. There's a good chance on buying back in
Speaker 2: on him next year, just you know, expecting that price
Speaker 2: to go down into probably the one fifty to one
Speaker 2: seventy range.
Speaker 3: Overall.
Speaker 2: I'll probably have a couple shares next year. But I
Speaker 2: think this year you're most most of the listeners are
Speaker 2: probably in ten or twelve team leagues.
Speaker 3: You don't have to wait around anymore. I think you
Speaker 3: can cut eight all.
Speaker 1: Right, A couple more quicker hitters Mookie Bets. Mookie Bets
Speaker 1: has not been the Mookie Bets that we've known. Joe
Speaker 1: and I talked about it on the trade video. Two
Speaker 1: forty four eleven homers, six stolen bases. Are you a
Speaker 1: buyer of a bigger seller second half on Mookie Bets,
Speaker 1: or do you think we're going to get a lot
Speaker 1: more of what we've gotten in the first half.
Speaker 2: I am not overly optimistic the fact that he's still
Speaker 2: in a great lineup, like he has fifty six runs,
Speaker 2: forty five ribbi. Those are going to be fine by
Speaker 2: the end of the year. But again, another guy who's
Speaker 2: just not making great contact. Five percent barrel rate, thirty
Speaker 2: five percent hard hit rate. I don't think he's gonna
Speaker 2: be somebody that you're ever dropping. But I don't think
Speaker 2: we're getting prime Mookie Betts probably ever again.
Speaker 3: At this point. He's gonna be thirty three years old
Speaker 3: pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Dylan Cease It is one of the worst qualified ras
Speaker 1: out there. He's near the top. Expected numbers are still
Speaker 1: so dramatically better than what he's putting out. Are you
Speaker 1: buying or selling Dylan Ceese in the second half.
Speaker 2: I'm still buying all the expected numbers, like you mentioned,
Speaker 2: are still good. Three sixty nine FIP is very good.
Speaker 2: His Sierra at three forty one is the best of
Speaker 2: his career. The walks are not a big problem. He's
Speaker 2: giving up ten percent barrel rate, which is a problem,
Speaker 2: but you know, just based on a lot of the numbers,
Speaker 2: he's still getting whifts outside of the zone. The swinging
Speaker 2: strike rate is still good. The stuff is still good.
Speaker 2: I'm a big buyer on Dylan Ceas right.
Speaker 1: Now buys and sells. We got the video for you
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