WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Hypothetical 53-Man Roster

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>ware with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, August fifteenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number twenty seven. Welcome to our final edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Break live from Oxnard, California. We will be heading

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<v Speaker 1>back to Dallas later this week, so this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the final show that we do from Oxnard.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll start back up with our regular schedule programming on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday back from at the Star. So it's been a good,

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<v Speaker 1>good three and a half weeks, and so it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>to end this on a good note today. How's everybody

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<v Speaker 1>feeling to day? Pretty good? Yeah, we're good. Great. I

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<v Speaker 1>did an interview this morning, um and somebody said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it just feels like you guys just got out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, it doesn't. It actually doesn't, not even

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<v Speaker 1>a little thinking that, but now it really doesn't at all. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday was a day off for the players, so they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back on the field today. They have a practice

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<v Speaker 1>this afternoon. They have a practice tomorrow morning. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a ten thirty am practice. So if you're here

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<v Speaker 1>in the area, in the LA area, and you still

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<v Speaker 1>have not had a chance to get to practice, this

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<v Speaker 1>is your great opportunity to be able to get out here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only two more practices left. Try to do that

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<v Speaker 1>this afternoon or tomorrow morning because on Friday morning we

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<v Speaker 1>are out. If you want to see real, real football,

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<v Speaker 1>you should probably come today though, Like if I had

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<v Speaker 1>the guest, tomorrow morning is gonna be I Phil walk

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<v Speaker 1>through it. It's gonna be light, real real football, real

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, training camp, right, real practice. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>said it was a player's day off yesterday, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you follow any of these people on social media, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>also realize there was a day off for the for

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<v Speaker 1>the staff as well. Most beautiful photos. You still have

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<v Speaker 1>a quite recovered. Yeah, it was. It was really a

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<v Speaker 1>fun day. And I got to give a shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Stephen who was our host yesterday. Uh he is

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<v Speaker 1>a fan, huge fan of this team, UM and just

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<v Speaker 1>was so gracious to be able to give our crew

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<v Speaker 1>a day away and kind of give us a really

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<v Speaker 1>really great experience yesterday on the beach there in Venice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was phenomenal. So shout out to Stephen.

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<v Speaker 1>Can see how the other side lives now and again

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah, I don't know if I'll ever get to

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<v Speaker 1>that stage, but no, it was really it was really

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<v Speaker 1>nice for a day to pretend. Um, Okay, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk some Cowboys football and today we get to

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<v Speaker 1>do what is probably one of my most favorite shows

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<v Speaker 1>of the entire year. We're gonna take right now the

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<v Speaker 1>ninety guys that they have out here on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna pretend as though we are the GM

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach, and we're gonna try to cut this

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<v Speaker 1>thing down to fifty three. And uh, I'm sure Dave

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<v Speaker 1>loves doing that as well. M It's fun because this

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<v Speaker 1>is just kind of the fun of what we do. Right. So, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do is what I I The way

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<v Speaker 1>I line this out is I have a list of

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<v Speaker 1>all the guys, um, and what I'll do is I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go through each position. I will tell you guys the

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<v Speaker 1>names of the people I think are locks to be

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<v Speaker 1>on this team. I want to hear if you guys agree,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you do, then we'll go through the list

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<v Speaker 1>of the other guys and tell me if there are

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<v Speaker 1>any of those guys we should throw on to that list,

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<v Speaker 1>and if not, then we'll hold those in the maybe category.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get our full number that we have that are locks,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll back into the fifty three. That all

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, Ye, Just just a reminder to us that

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<v Speaker 1>are sitting here is I'm sure there'll a bit walk

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<v Speaker 1>through here in a little bit before you might be

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<v Speaker 1>cutting yelling out somebody. He's definitely cut, Like, hey, how's

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<v Speaker 1>it going? So yeah, this maybe it's last these maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's last couple of practices, So let's speed to care

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Why No, I'm just saying it's like, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We cut them, We cut them. Yeah, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>knew what they signed up for. Still is sad they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know. And I'm not trying to belittle And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's three thousand people chasing their dream in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL right now, and half of them aren't going to

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<v Speaker 1>pull it off. And even crazier than that, ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent of them are fighting some type of adversity aside

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<v Speaker 1>from trying to make the team too. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to disrespect that at all, but it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the gig. It's tough, tough league, all right. So

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. We're gonna start with the cornerback position.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are my locks ban Byron Jones, Cheetah Bay, Woozier,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis, Anthony Brown. You guys agree, definitely awesome. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are the guys that I did not put on that list.

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<v Speaker 1>And you tell me if there are any of those

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<v Speaker 1>that you think need to be on the lock list.

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<v Speaker 1>Marks White, Savarius Award, Duke Thomas, Donovan Alumba or cam

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Lock No lock, no, no greed, Dick. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody's a lock. I think those guys have to

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<v Speaker 1>play their way onto the roster. Duke Thomas was going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that last year and then he got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get hurt. Those guys just can't get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now. I think that that's a good battle. I

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<v Speaker 1>would guess the player who performs the best, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the three preseason games between Alumba and there various Ward

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<v Speaker 1>would sneak onto that last spot in my opinion, would

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys enter the season and Amber you can answer this,

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<v Speaker 1>would you think the Cowboys would enter the season with

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<v Speaker 1>just four cornerbacks? Do you think they need more? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, based on what they've done at safety, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, oh, they're cool with just having less guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like entering with four. I wouldn't see that

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily as a problem. Now, those two guys that Nick

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned is tricky right now because certain guys, they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>a shiny moment at camp and then you think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is looking great, but then the next day

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, he doesn't look good, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy goes up. Which is the nature of a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's that far out of the Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just saying that right now, out of that group,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no one that's really standing out much than the other.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we had to say a number, like what

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<v Speaker 1>would be the number of cornerbacks you think you need

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<v Speaker 1>to carry for this team? I think you need to

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<v Speaker 1>carry five, But I don't know why you wouldn't carry six.

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<v Speaker 1>Between injuries and the fact that as of right now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a non zero chance that either Byron

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<v Speaker 1>or Cheeto might have to play safety at some point

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<v Speaker 1>this season. I think six is would be smart. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really I mean, I hope safety's next on your list

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a ten dB uh, it's usually around ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be nine, um, but it's nine. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>got those players that Dave's talking about that can do

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of both. So now your fifth guy

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<v Speaker 1>is a you know, as a player and as Cam

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly is he they've I think that the Cowboys have

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<v Speaker 1>him listed as a safety. He's done a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of everything. He's moved back, he's gonna have to he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna to step it up. He's behind the other ones there,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's a type of player that if he did

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<v Speaker 1>stand out in these preseason games, you could see going,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, he's your fifth corner and your fifth safety.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say heading into camp, I gave Duke Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>and Markus White the edge to be the fifth and

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<v Speaker 1>sixth corner is because they had a year under their belt.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen anything from either of them that I

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<v Speaker 1>just think they absolutely need to make this team. I

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<v Speaker 1>give I give Duke a little bit more of a

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<v Speaker 1>nod than Marquez. If I had to guess I think

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<v Speaker 1>Duke Thomas and then one of these undrafted rookies probably Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so let's move to safety. There are three locks.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion. You've got Xavier Woods, you got Jeff Heath,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got Cavon Frasier. The other three are a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of an enigma because I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>any of them have stood up, stood stood out enough

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<v Speaker 1>to our flag. They have to make this team, but

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<v Speaker 1>you would think you want more than three safeties on

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<v Speaker 1>this team as well. They are Jamil Showers, Mark Queston

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<v Speaker 1>Huff and Tyree Robinson. I assume we all agree on

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<v Speaker 1>the locks. Do you think you need an additional one?

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<v Speaker 1>And if so, is there one there that you think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe should be the guy that that's the fourth. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not that far removed from a year where they kept

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<v Speaker 1>five safeties, so it's hard for me to imagine them

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<v Speaker 1>going with three. That said, I don't feel great about

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<v Speaker 1>any of those options. Maybe my question Huff, but he's hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like he's going to be out for at

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<v Speaker 1>least a little bit of time, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people have thrown around the idea of three safeties.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that idea either, But I wonder, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about Earl Thomas, but I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a safety that's going to make this team

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<v Speaker 1>that's not here, right And I definitely think that they

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<v Speaker 1>will get another safety in here, whether it's a trade

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<v Speaker 1>or not. They have to. They really have to get

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<v Speaker 1>some more experience here at that position. I mean, because

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Heath is not I mean, he's played in the

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<v Speaker 1>league four or five years, but doesn't have a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of stars. Davier Woods doesn't really have hardly any. Kavon

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<v Speaker 1>Frasier has been more of a special teams guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's very important to brand it. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand how, I mean from their standpoint, and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what they're thinking, what they're doing behind doors.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know how you would feel comfortable going

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<v Speaker 1>into this season with the guys that you have right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and not only as far as experienced, but body wise.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by that? Body wise? Okay, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>got you. So I guess the other part to consider that, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>you already kind of mentioned this is those guys that

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<v Speaker 1>can play both safety and corner, right, So if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it from that standpoint, maybe they could go

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<v Speaker 1>long at cornerback, knowing that they're only going to have

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<v Speaker 1>three quoted safeties, knowing that Byron Jones could flip over,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that your best two cornerbacks at camp Byron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>and Cheetahbill Woozy. Okay, I get you, but that's I

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<v Speaker 1>understand what you're saying. But I do believe though that

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<v Speaker 1>this team, if you look at this the history of

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<v Speaker 1>this coaching staff, I do think that that that's not

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<v Speaker 1>always the criteria. I think that if they feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they need the body in a different place, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll put the body in a different place. Yes, Byron

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<v Speaker 1>would be the only option there to me, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>done it in games. I don't think you should move

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<v Speaker 1>Cheeto over there if he hasn't practiced at all. So

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that they're not really thinking that way. Punch

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<v Speaker 1>me in the face if that's their primary game plan,

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<v Speaker 1>just like, let's move these guys out of in a

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<v Speaker 1>really important position and haven't played. But it would only

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<v Speaker 1>it would own being an instance where you had just

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<v Speaker 1>a major catastrophe in a game, because that's the thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the point, they could probably go and get some

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys off the you know, off the free

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<v Speaker 1>agent while if they have a guy go down, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to finish a game. Though, if you had to

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<v Speaker 1>slide a guy back there to finish a game, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you do. If you're only carrying three safeties,

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<v Speaker 1>you're setting yourself up for a catastrophe, like you're just

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, case in point, cavan Frasier is he's battling

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<v Speaker 1>anything right now, he's not completely healthy. That leaves you

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<v Speaker 1>you basically have two safeties that you feel comfortable putting

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<v Speaker 1>on the field right now. I mean, I think Cavon

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be fine, but it's it's troubling. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I every year they send a seventh round pick to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in exchange for a player and defensive tackle and

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<v Speaker 1>safety or two spots that make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Though you did mention, and you've been mentioning this since

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, really since free agency opened. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas's name keeps be getting bantered around, But there

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<v Speaker 1>were other safeties you said that were out there. Throw

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<v Speaker 1>me some other names and maybe some guys are they

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<v Speaker 1>all gone at this point, there's one guy that's not

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not getting signed here. Yeah. Um, Kenny Vaccaro

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<v Speaker 1>and Trey Boston both have jobs now that that ship sailed,

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<v Speaker 1>So you got so really when it comes to those

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<v Speaker 1>veteran guys, there aren't a lot of options there either. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that you're you're talking about what they

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<v Speaker 1>did last year with the cornerback of ben A Ben Wickery,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be that type of guy right at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of camp. They did it. Um. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>did it with the safety and fourteen C. J. Spiller. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that type of player. Yeah, real quick, And

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to divert us a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it's worth bringing up because I have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a few tweets about it yesterday. No, No, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it up, though I know I'm just answering. No. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando Scandrid gets cut from Washington Redskins, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>a few tweets like, is there any chance the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>bringing back? What do you guys think should they? I

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<v Speaker 1>guess is an even better question. Why? Why? No? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I think I feel which I'm good and

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<v Speaker 1>we're good Orlando, Orlando Scandrid probably has some gas left

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<v Speaker 1>in the tank, like you can do some somewhere. But

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<v Speaker 1>you you flipped this thing over you you you made

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<v Speaker 1>that bed. Why go back to it like he's He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna noticeably bolster this thing. Nothing's happened out here

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, we you know, we need him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Cowboys would look at it and go,

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<v Speaker 1>what man, you know, Anthony Brown or or um Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis hasn't done what we I think that they've been.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys feel good. You feel good. You feel

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<v Speaker 1>better about Anthony Brown in the slot than you would

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<v Speaker 1>maybe bringing in Orlando and just playing him in the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>Dez Bryant would fit in just as well as Scandrick.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this isn't just about playing on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about where they think that that the development

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<v Speaker 1>of younger players. And I don't think that they they

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<v Speaker 1>saw that and Washington's only had him for a few months,

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<v Speaker 1>and they looked at it like, we've got young guys

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<v Speaker 1>we'd rather play. If he was, if he was the

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<v Speaker 1>best slot corner in the league, bring it on. But

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying he's terrible, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the difference is so noticeable that you bother with that

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<v Speaker 1>you hinder your young players development. He's an older player,

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't see why you need. Washington has an

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<v Speaker 1>all pro type cornerback and some younger players there. There

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<v Speaker 1>will be some teams out there, I think we'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think there'll be a team that has some

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<v Speaker 1>younger guys and maybe needs more of a veteran. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's the case, then then you know he'll probably go somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Washington did it for that reason to

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<v Speaker 1>keep him out there so he can. I heard he

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<v Speaker 1>was visiting the Chiefs today, So yeah, I mean, like people,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna want to sign him. I'm not He's not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad player, but I just don't set the point here.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't they trade? Yes, the Redskins needed a guy because

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<v Speaker 1>they traded their cornerback to the Chiefs, And now the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs want to bring him into But his salary keeps

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<v Speaker 1>going down. He's getting close to the probably the leak minimum. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, honestly, I think whether his role is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>end up being is he's going to be that guy

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<v Speaker 1>that is a slot only guy. He's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>play on the outside. He's not going to play a

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<v Speaker 1>full slate of of downs. He will be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he will be the guy that comes in for slot

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<v Speaker 1>duty and that's where he's gonna have to focus and be. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably where he's best at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in his career, where he doesn't have to play every down.

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<v Speaker 1>I would much rather just ride with this group. They're

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<v Speaker 1>like they all came in at similar times. They're growing

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<v Speaker 1>up together. Scandrick is in a way different point of

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<v Speaker 1>his career that it kind of it hinders not that

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<v Speaker 1>narrative is a bad word, but like, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>young team trying to prove itself and then you bring,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thirty one thirty two year old veteran who

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<v Speaker 1>has been through the league Ringer and just yeah, you're good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think at the end of the camp, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess this kind of goes back to the corner, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think char Various Award is going to make the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's a guy that they will want

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<v Speaker 1>to cut. Yeah, and Alumba is going to be right

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<v Speaker 1>there with him because of just the body type that

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<v Speaker 1>they have. And we knew that going in. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>credit Brian for saying, hey, this is what Chris Rochard likes.

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<v Speaker 1>These two guys fit the mold. If they come out

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<v Speaker 1>here and perform at a high level or a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good level for being you know, undrafted rookies, then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>take a chance on him. I mean, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>what I've seen an award. He competes your sixth cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't need to dress for a game, yea or so.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if this is his starting point out

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<v Speaker 1>here and being right there with Tavon Austin and Tavon

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<v Speaker 1>just making a great play over him, I like, I

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<v Speaker 1>like the starting point for Ward. I just I if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to pick, I think Ward makes this team too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I feel very confident that one of

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<v Speaker 1>these tall, long corners that fits Chard's archetype is going

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<v Speaker 1>to make this team for him to mold and work

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<v Speaker 1>with during the course of the year, even if he's

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<v Speaker 1>not playing a lot. I talked to him at one

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<v Speaker 1>point after one of his good practices, Trevarius Ward, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, players have Warren number forty as

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<v Speaker 1>an undrafted player and made the team before. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Bates, he's never heard of him. Um, no, Bill Bates,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny McCrae. Okay, he's like, wow, you know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>make the team, I'm moving I'm moving numbers. Anyways, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just still. I don't think, let's make the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're not saying that to everybody, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're not going up to the equipment guys.

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<v Speaker 1>In't saying it. But but right now, that's his focus though,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not a bad thing. It focus is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make the team. And yeah, so all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take our first break when we come back. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't know. I don't know if it's everyone. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, that's the goal. But but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's necessarily I don't know how realistic it

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<v Speaker 1>is for other players or not. I mean, some people

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<v Speaker 1>are thinking two or three steps down the road, he's

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<v Speaker 1>making the team, and he's you know, he's changing numbers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's take our first break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to continue to go down this list. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. It is the second segment of The Break

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<v Speaker 1>live from Oxnard, California. Again our final show here from Oxnard.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back in Dallas next week. At the start,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going through and making cuts for the final fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three man roster. We will be submitting these two the

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you guys and say hey, will we're hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got an interview later with Jerry, right, so just

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<v Speaker 1>hand it to Jerry. Here you go, mister Jones. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get it all the way right, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be really close. I mean yeah. So anyway, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so here we go. Let's go to the linebacker position.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Sean Lee, Joe Thomas, Jalen Smith, Layton Vanderish.

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<v Speaker 1>I threw Damian Wilson in there as well as locks.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys agree with those five? Yes? All right? So

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<v Speaker 1>what you got left is justin marsh Lillard Chris Covington.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you need more than five? And if so, should

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<v Speaker 1>either one of those be on the locklist. That is

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<v Speaker 1>something I've seen going around Twitter, like people are suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>five linebackers, and I just think that's insane, like six

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<v Speaker 1>as six as a must, and honestly, I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised if it's seven. That's me. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I consider either of them a lock but I think

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<v Speaker 1>Justin marsh Lillard will make this team. Chris Covington's got

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<v Speaker 1>some work to do, no through no fault of his own,

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<v Speaker 1>just because he's been sick. I haven't seen that much

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<v Speaker 1>of him. Yeah, I actually disagree. I don't think March

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<v Speaker 1>Lillard WILLI make the team, and I know that he's

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie, but I think when you're from a body

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<v Speaker 1>type standpoint, I'm counting both Scarborough in as a linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>from the standpoint of do you need that type of

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<v Speaker 1>player to run the special teams and to be on

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<v Speaker 1>this spot in the special teams part, And so most

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<v Speaker 1>times you can't just say your third running back goes

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<v Speaker 1>right here on the edge as a punt protector. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he factors in for that reason. When you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about six and seven linebackers, it's special teams. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can go a little lighter there. I we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if Covington can get into the mix. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one hundred percent sure. Damien Wilson, if you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it into the camp trade something, what do you got?

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<v Speaker 1>We got a little depth here. He's you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy going into his last year of his deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair. But when you know, again, like

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<v Speaker 1>that type of stuff typically typically doesn't happen until Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>like when they put out the fifty three on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, group the ones we have, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>would be the most proven one out of everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>that's left. Wilson, Yeah, yeah, yeah, after you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Shawn Lee and Jalen Okay, talent wise, he would be

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<v Speaker 1>the next one. None of those other linebackers have done

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<v Speaker 1>anything right who pinkins hero No? No, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think most of those guys have an opportunity to make

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.440
<v Speaker 1>this team because there's so much there's so much ahead

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:21.800
<v Speaker 1>of them. I don't think they have much a shot.

0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.400
<v Speaker 1>The best shot I think is to make the practice squad. Yeah.

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.919
<v Speaker 1>I remember having conversations in OTAs with people where I

0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, you can you can put this linebacker chor

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<v Speaker 1>together today, assuming everybody's healthy, and Covington and marsh Lillard

0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>were definitely included in that. I think I think Nick's

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 1>got a really good point that, you know, the abilities

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of some other players on this roster enable you to

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<v Speaker 1>go light, but with the injury history you've had a

0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:46.920
<v Speaker 1>linebacker in recent years, I don't know why you would

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 1>do that if you've got talented guys here, Like I

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 1>think six is a damn near guarantee, and I wouldn't

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:56.120
<v Speaker 1>be surprised by seven. I'll watch Marsha Lillard more too,

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:57.879
<v Speaker 1>and I mean maybe I need to kind of. I

0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 1>think he's been on him. I think he's been great,

0:22:00.000 --> 0:22:02.399
<v Speaker 1>and that's also the reason why I think, well, not

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that reason, but I also think Damon Damien Wilson makes

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 1>his team because of the fact that this has been

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a position that they've had some injury concerns, and I

0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:12.399
<v Speaker 1>think with his experience, I don't know that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and replace that in free age. He's

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<v Speaker 1>also you know, right, we gave you at least we

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.639
<v Speaker 1>gave Kyle Wilver so much credit for his specialty and

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 1>his ability, you know, and considering he didn't contribute that

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<v Speaker 1>much to defense. I think Damian Wilson is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>adapting that role as well. Like, I mean, he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an active, special teams experienced guy. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you did trade him to another team, you'd hold

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<v Speaker 1>your breath because you know one thing you'd need at

0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.040
<v Speaker 1>this position is depth and because of some injury history,

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<v Speaker 1>minute you do that. That's yeah, that's exactly right. That's

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.200
<v Speaker 1>why you know people ask out, they're like, well, who

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.199
<v Speaker 1>would you trade, you know, if we can get like,

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>definitely don't want to trade a linebacker. I want to

0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 1>That's I want as many good bodies as I can have, right,

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, all right, let's move on to defensive end.

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:01.240
<v Speaker 1>You got de Marcus Lawrence, Tyrone Crawford, Uh, Taco Charlton,

0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregory. I put on the lists a lot um

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and then Dorance Armstrong. I think he's been really good

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.200
<v Speaker 1>out here as a rookie. Um. That gives you five

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 1>guys that are locked up. Do you go five or

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<v Speaker 1>do you go for at the defensive end position? I

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<v Speaker 1>think you you go with five. You go with as

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 1>many as pressures as you have that can rush that

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>are good. I mean, if you had six great ones,

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you'd go with six. I mean you need them, and

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>those five are making the team for sure. Tapper's on

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the who well, who did you read as the Locks, Tank, Taco,

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Randy Tyrone, Tyrone. And then you've got guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sitting right over here that you think about,

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.720
<v Speaker 1>like Cony Elie and Charles Tapper that that you know,

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you feel like maybe there's something there. So this is

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a tough position to cut, I think to

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<v Speaker 1>some degree when you look at other positions, how we

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about as far as guys that you need, I

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:56.679
<v Speaker 1>mean this one, you don't have any one that you say, man,

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.479
<v Speaker 1>I must kip this one for sure. You know. So

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:04.359
<v Speaker 1>again body wise, the amount of bodies that you carry

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>at that position versus other positions, I think this is

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 1>one where you could cut one down. Yeah. But I

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>think the flip side to that is true as well.

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>There aren't guys you're like, oh, he's automatic cut right.

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>So it's like when you start getting to guys like

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Cony Eily and Charles Tapper, they may really say, hey,

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 1>we really want to see what Elie can do. Because

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 1>think about it, this is guy has a lot of talent.

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>He was a high draft pick. They may think, we

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:29.680
<v Speaker 1>really think we want to get him into the regular

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>season because you think he'll provide something for This is

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>going back to the secondary conversation. This is a spot

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:38.919
<v Speaker 1>where you could take six ends, and because several of

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>them can play tackle. Yeah, Tyrone Crawford looks like he's

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>going to spend some time at tackle in some degree,

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't be. And I know Cony Eely can

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and Taco Charlton can too, even though we haven't seen it.

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>So you can talk to me into taking six. But

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>at five sounds about right. Yeah, so let's think about that.

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:58.879
<v Speaker 1>We've got the defensive tackle position here with the locks there,

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>jahad Ward, Antoine Woods, Brian Price, MALIEK Collins. Damn wow, Woods.

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:08.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't you guys not think I mean he's been

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 1>running with the first team. I don't think a guy

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>that's running with the first team. It's a wow. Congratulations

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 1>to him to be at that level. I don't know

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>if necessarily they're all locks. I think Malik is the

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>only name you read that I would call a lot. Yeah, really, yes,

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot? Any of those Wait did you even say

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>datone Jones? He's a lot? You're right, dat Jones is

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a lock. Yeah, Dayton Jones and MALIEK. Collins I consider locks.

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I leaned toward thinking Jihad Lord is a lock, but

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily since Antoine Woods is running with the Ones

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot I'm playing. I'm keeping Woods. I am just

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>from a standpoint of he a body tap. You don't

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 1>have that type of player. Has he not been your

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>best defensive tackle? Lot here too. He's the only player

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>in three or four years that I've seen give Travis

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Frederick this much problem. I agree with what you're saying.

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>But Lewis Neil ran with the Ones in training camp

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>last year too, Like they do stuff like that, you're

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>short on bodies, you're not impressed by the veteran that

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you brought in to start in place of David Irving, etc. Etc.

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got a really good shot to make

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the team. I hesitate to call him a lot man.

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:15.479
<v Speaker 1>Tony Elie is on the outside looking in because my

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>thought was that you would read off the tackles and

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 1>I will just say you can put that spot. But

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>from a tackle standpoint, I like Price better, I like

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Woods better, I like uh deck On Jones better, and

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>I definitely like Mileague better, and let's not forget in

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>four games we think we think David Irving is going

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to come back in league. I mean, David hold on,

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to cut you off there, David Irving is

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, we can say how we want about I

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's coming. David Irving needs that a

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.199
<v Speaker 1>crude season so he can be a free agent next year.

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>He needs to come back. He's gonna do everything he can.

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to come back. I think to camp a

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>week ago. He really needs to be back. So it

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Now will he be good? Will he be

0:26:58.280 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>in shape? Who knows about what? You can defer that

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>decision like you don't have to worry about that decision

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>right now. That will be something that plays itself out.

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>And I guarantee you. I want to guarantee you. But

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance that by the time you get

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to that decision there will be some interest. And how

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it makes people always want to sweat, like who you're

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna cut to get Irving on the roster. It always

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>always works out. I was gonna bring up my league Collins,

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>who is coming back from an injury, but this kind

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>of injury is a reoccurring injury, so you never know

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>when it might happen again, because it's not oh it

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>just happened once. It has been multiple times. I've been yeah,

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm I like your five ends. And then assuming they don't,

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, again, it's hard to predict trades and stuff.

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>But Malik Dayton, Jones, Jihad Ward, oh Man, right Price

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>in Woods, Yeah, I know, and then you go with

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>that five and five like those two. Ten is is

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.959
<v Speaker 1>heavy like and they I know, whenever we do these

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>types of things, people project as many as ten and eleven.

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure in the Rod Marinelli era they've only

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>gone as high as ten once or twice. Like it's

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>usually nine and one time it was even eight. No,

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you're good. I don't think Daytone, Jones and Brian Price

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>makes the team. I think you got the I think

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you got that Angie had Ward. Of those three, I

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think they all make it. I think two of

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>those three, I think two of those three. You're talking

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>about the same type of money, same type of year,

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>same type of tape that they've already shown. I want

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>to see. We just wanted to. Really, Really, the only

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>lock you guys got really is Mollie Collins. What he's

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>the only guy. He's the only guy sitting here on

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>August fourteenth? Is it the fourteenth fifteenth that you can

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, he's gonna make the team. All right,

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put all

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna defer all those others. We'll put Mollie Collins

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>in the lock category, and then we'll come back and

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll have to fill in for the rest of those spots. Okay,

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>all right, So let's move on to the offense, which

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>we gotta move pretty quickly here. All right, So we

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>got we got quarterback. Actually Dak we know Dak Prescott,

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush are in Mike White. Is the decision do

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.479
<v Speaker 1>you go with three here or do you let him

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>hopefully see if you can maybe get him to the

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>practice squad? Here's we always say this, and it's true

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>across the board. Quarterbacks just different. It's a different position.

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Mike White was a He was a quarterback with a

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>draftable grade. Brian brought Us had a third round grade

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>on the guy, and the Cowboys got him in the fifth.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>There's no telling what every other team in the league

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 1>thought about him. If you cut him. There's just a

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>better probability that he gets picked up by somebody than

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>any other position because you see him and you say,

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks are lottery tickets. Let's put a claim in on

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>this guy and see if we can do anything with him.

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, Um, I don't think that Cooper Rush isn't

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 1>necessarily a lot right now. I mean you can say, well, well,

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>just think of it like this. We have three preseason

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>games to play, and he's gonna play in all of them.

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>If he throws an interception in every one of those games,

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna totally have a different opinion about him. Well,

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>we could do that with a lot of people, right, Okay,

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>so that throws a pick in every game. You consider

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the source, though, Consider the source, and I'm not you them,

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>which is that I know it worked itself out over time,

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>but kell him had a bad preseason last year, and

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>they valued his experience and what they thought about him

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and all that type of crap, and he was still

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>QB two when the roster was released. It took until

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>almost November for that to change. It's not like, you know,

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not like Cooper Rush was bumped up overnight. They

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't cut Kellen until they went to Washington in October.

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a lot and they're not going to

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>bring a veteran guy to be the backup. I think

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I agree with Cooper Rush. Is this team's backup quarterback

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>unless his leg falls off in the preseason. But I

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>think and that really and that may even be questionable,

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Like if he did it only has one leg. As

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>long as he has my arm, I think he might say,

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not here to tell you like Mike White hasn't

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>blown me away by any stretch of the imagination. But

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it sounds so shortsighted. Again, fifth round picks not

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a big deal if it's any other position, but it's

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback. And again, we talked about this before we

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>went on the air. Jerry Jones spent the whole offseason saying,

0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>we're done with that veteran stuff. We want to develop

0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a young guy. And I'm not talking about Cooper Rush.

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>He was talking about adding another quarterback. We want to

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>develop somebody. How can you say that you honestly got

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>a chance to develop Mike White over the course of

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>one preseason. But my retort to that is, I think

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>they are developing someone in Cooper Rush. Like Cooper Rush

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>is a young quarterback that they're having to develop. Do

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to have two guys that you're having to develop?

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't talking about Cooper Rush when he was saying

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I get that, but my point, my point still remains

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that if their goal is to try to develop a

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>guy for the future, then to me, they were already

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>doing that with Cooper Rush. They're developing a guy for

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the future. If you want to do that, If you

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>want to see Mike White at all, that you don't

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>play Dak in this game at all. You don't need

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to see Dak in this game. You think you got

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>this great offensive still got to get him ready for

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the season, though, well, then play him in the Cardinals game.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Get If you want to see what Mike White can do,

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>then play him in this game. That's what That's what

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Parcels did with Tony twelve years ago or eleven years ago.

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>He played the whole game, but so couldn't believe it.

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>He's and he should the fourth game. I think the

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>fourth game, you're probably gonna see Mike White play the

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>entire know I want to see him, not I don't

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>want to see at least the screen Kadeem Edwards and

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>those those lines. I want to see him being able

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to you know, his mental clocks should not be a one.

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It should be like one, two, three ball, not like

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>hike ball. I mean, you can't do that. Fourth preseason

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>games should be the Dalton Sturm showcase in my opinion,

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>which I just and I'm I'm not. I can't say

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred percent right about this, but I don't

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>understand why you drafted Mike White if you aren't committed

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>to keeping on the team for at least one season. Um,

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's it's gonna be three quarterbacks. Let's

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>move on, Let's go to running back Zeke Elliott rod

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Smith definitely in Jamaez Ali Wali will put throw him

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>in as well. He's definitely gonna make the team as

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the fullback. Both Scarborough I put on the list as

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a lock. I don't know what you guys feel about it,

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>but I have a hard time thinking they go with

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>only two running backs. And I think he's the best

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 1>of the of the guys that are left. What do

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys think? I think you can sew that thing up,

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and I don't cut that guy. Yeah, you know, he's

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>got enough potential to do some things. Remember he didn't.

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was drafted as high because the

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>stats weren't a lot, weren't great, because he's playing it

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>out Alma and in some injuries and stuff in Alabama.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>It's got Oh, the next guy we saw in the

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>National Championship. You go to the backup quarterback in there,

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>they're even better. So they don't wait for long on

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>those in that position. But you look at him, there's

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>a spot in the NFL for a guy that looks

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>like that and can play like that. I think he

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>keeps him. Darius Jackson is my guy, so I don't

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>want to just write him off. And I have him

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>on the list of the guys that are next and

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>have an opportunity, and I think we should talk about

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>him when we get back to Okay, let's fill in now,

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>we've got X number of spots left. I think he's

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a guy that should be considered right there. All right, Well,

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>if you want to come back to it, that's fine,

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, good, So let's move on to wide receiver.

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Alan Hearns, Cole Beasley, Michael Gallup, Tavon Austin, Terrence Williams.

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I think our locks. You guys agree, yes, yeah, one

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>more time. I'm sorry. Beasley, Gallup, Beasley, Gallerparns, yes all Austin, Yeah, okay, yeah,

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>so five. And we looked at this before the show

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>on Terrence on you know, is he is? He a lock?

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>And we just just did the looked at the numbers

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it cost him. I think it was four million, four

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>point two million to have him on the team right

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>now on your salary cap, it would count another two

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and a half million to put to not have him

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>on the team, you have to pay two point five

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>million on your cap to trade him, cut him whatever.

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>That makes absolutely no sense, which I would be. I

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>agree with you completely. I'll play devil's advocate. If he

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>was just asked if he was a bad person, Yeah,

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>that's it. Not one. It would be a situation where

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't want him to be on my my locker room.

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>The money is not stopping you from doing that if

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>everything else is working against it. But he's had a

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>good camp. He's are the most experienced receiver here, certainly

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>in this offense. Uh, he's a good blocker. He you know,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>fans don't want to hear this I don't care that

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>they value him, and honestly they probably should. Yeah, uh so,

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I just now next year. Next year's a different story.

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>It would make some sense to to part ways if

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't improved greatly. There. All right, let's let's go

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>ahead and move on to five receivers. Yes, I'm sorry, Yes,

0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 1>we do have some other guys that on the list

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>or Noah, but you've seen more out of lance right now.

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Don't forget Deante Thompson. Yeah, yeah, a few guys you

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>have to And I was actually gonna come back to

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>us because that's when you have feeling those I think

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be a position where you really have

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>to talk about when you start feeling in guys. You

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>have Lenor, you have Brown, you have Thompson, and Katie

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Cannon's been getting some looks out here. I don't think

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>he makes the team, but it's worth a conversation. Right

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>circle back, Um, let's talk about tight end Jeff Swam,

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Blake Jarwin, Dalton Schultz. I think we're all in, uh,

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 1>and then you have to have that discussion about Rico

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>gaspeak up. Don't want to speak about this. I think

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Swaim's a lock, and I think Jarwin uh is

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 1>a lock as well. Um Dalton Schultz probably will will

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>make the team. But right now, like you know, if

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you just took every if you just took everything away

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>with like where they were drafted, he wouldn't. I think

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>he would be probably last in the tight end. And

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>he's right there with David Wells. I think Rico has

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>done more things than than Schultz. But uh, that's it's

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>the politics, it's part of it. You've invested in these

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>guys and they don't. No one likes to look bad

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.399
<v Speaker 1>and look wrong. And if you just cut a fourth

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>round pick, that just show you're just admitting that you

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't do a good job with the draft in that

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>particular pick. That's I mean, for that reason, Tapper in

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 1>his third year might get a benefit of the doubt

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>for the same thing. So I doubt they'll cut Schultz.

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>But he has not done anything out here to say

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 1>he deserves a spot other than what happened in late

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>April in the draft. My thing, I don't necessarily think

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong. I don't think Schultz has been bad. He

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:34.320
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't look like he's ready really from a physical standpoint,

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>like he a lot like Taco last year, Like he

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>just needs to be in a weight program for a year,

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and I think he'll be like he looks like he

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>knows what he's doing, he's just not executing it, which

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's a regular rookie problem. But then again,

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>to your point, politics sounds so icky, But I mean,

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 1>this team hasn't cut a fourth round pick in my

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>time here, and they certainly haven't done it during Will

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>mcclay's tenure. I doubt they're going to start doing it now.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Think the last guy was an LSU player who I

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>think it was Skyler Green? Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think he made the team fourth round. I would

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>be I would be pretty surprised I thought he got cut.

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I would be pretty surprised. This doesn't happen a lot.

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be really really bad, and it's not like

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.439
<v Speaker 1>it's not like, you know, the the guy that would

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>push him out would be would be Rico because then

0:37:23.080 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 1>then it's almost like we had you cut a fourth

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>round pick, but we got a bonus player here and

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a guy we dropped in the sixth round that we've

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>been working on. And I mean, I think if I

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>had to do it right now. I think if I

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 1>had to say one or the other Rico Raschult, I

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>would take Rico m really one or the other. You

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>know my football team, and I don't. I'm not. That's

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to say. I don't. I'm okay with

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>cutting a fourth round pick because I feel like this

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>was it was like a throw in bonus player that

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>now now that I've got and I agree with you

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>on that because I think when you look at what

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Rico brings and I've this has been my thing all along.

0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>He does have that one thing that I don't think

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>anybody else in that receiver group, in that tight end

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>group has, which is the ability. As much as you

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about is blocking and everything else, he has an

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>ability to get out and be able to make catches

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>in situations. We've seen him make catches down the field.

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 1>We've seen him make contested catches, We've seen him make

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>catches in red zone. Like we've seen him do this

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in limited number of opportunities. I think it intrigues me

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>at least enough to where I want to enter the

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>season and have that one extra way that I think

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I can use him in the red zone that maybe

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't have with these other guys that gives me

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>something else to be able to rely on. It just

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like something the Cowboys would do. Maybe not.

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's worth the I think it's worth

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the spot. I think it's worth the roster spot. And

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the way I look at it is is Schultz needs

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to be an NFL tight end,

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>how to figure out like where to block and who

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, what routes the run, and he needs to

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>be physically bigger and stronger. Rico needs to do one

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of the two, you know. I mean now, Schultz is

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>probably further along and playing football and all that kind

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and may even have more more long term

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>outside but never gonna get to that type of physical

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you know specimen that Rico is so um you know upside,

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be Rico if it's one of

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the one or the other. But you're right day they'll

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 1>figure out a way for it, and that not to

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 1>be happen. That play the other day that he made

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 1>that the remarkable catch that wasn't even the best part

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>of that play in my opinion. He was going against

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>vander esh and he got down Phil and had two

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 1>or three steps on the guy. Like, that's the part

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to me that I think he's shown something that at

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>least gets me a little bit excited about the future

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 1>of where he could be. Again, this is a guy

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that still has not played a lot of football and

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 1>he's already making those kinds of plays. I just think

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it's worth the spot. I think it's worth the roster spot.

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with you, but I think they might

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe they do. He's not Jimmy Graham, and I'm not

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.439
<v Speaker 1>saying he's gonna be Rico got I mean he's gonna

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>be He's not gonna be Antonio Gates from a production standpoint,

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 1>but I think he is similar to Gates in that

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to ask him to do all this

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 1>blocking stuff. Just kind of get open, use your body

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know. And Gates developed into a Hall of

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Fame tight end. Rico won't do that, probably, but I

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>think he's it's that type of skill set for him,

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 1>all right. I don't like when I hear that whole thing,

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that excuse of like, oh, he this is a guy

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 1>that hasn't been playing football since whatever grade it was, anything, Well,

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a professional level. You're in

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>an NFL. It's professional. This is where okay, you showcase

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>your skills. This is not college or high school where

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you're trying out and oh, let me try out football

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and see if I make it. Like, we're past that level.

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>So right now, I just feel that, Okay, given the

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 1>time that he's been given already, this should be at

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a point where you're like, okay, you know what, let's

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and do this right. But here's where it

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>makes a difference. Where it makes a difference is in

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's shown you enough flashes that says

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to keep this thing going. I want to

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>keep developing him, because it does have to factor in

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.280
<v Speaker 1>from the standpoint of wherever he is in his develop element.

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>When you look at that and say, okay, he hasn't

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>played football and he's developed this much in the amount

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 1>of time we've had him, Where would he be in

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>another year, Where would he be in another two years?

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that worth me saying I will give a roster

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.760
<v Speaker 1>spot to see where that if he continues to develop,

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>and maybe in another year he has quantum leaps above

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>where he is right now because of the development he's

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 1>already had it. What does that show me? Right, So

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 1>that's where I think it factors in. You're right, it

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make a difference. At the end of the day,

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>you still got to produce. Nobody cares that you didn't

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:26.920
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<v Speaker 1>Break from Oxnard, California. We got about fifteen minutes left

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>in the show and we're cutting the roster down to

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.959
<v Speaker 1>the fifty three man roster. We've got forty two guys

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that we have considered to be locks, and so we

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>have a eleven spots left and let me read some

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>of the names. Go ahead, and you put three special

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>teams guys on there. Yes I did. We didn't talk

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 1>about them, but yes I did already already at the

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>three guys to the forty three to talk about. Well,

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.479
<v Speaker 1>we're asking is that part of the forty they're already

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>in the forty two. Yes, they've been counted in the

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.800
<v Speaker 1>forty two. Uh, and that would include our our specialists,

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 1>our kicker, O punter in our long I mean, you

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>guys might disagree on this, but of the eleven spots,

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's safe to say that if they find

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>any of these players that get cut or traded for

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 1>another team, yes you could replace them. So I mean

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>we could say, oh, he's not on this team right now,

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>or that fifth guys not on this team. Yeah, that's probably,

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I think we should say, are of

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the players that are here, these are the guys that

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 1>don't make it. Yeah, they can swap it out. We

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>have any point. That's exactly why anybody not anybody. There

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of guys that are at this point

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>that could be swapped out for another guy. But we're

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna assume for now we're just talking about the guys

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that are the game. Lay a lot, I am playing

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I am playing along. I'm just saying, so

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>we don't sit there and talk about well, I think

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 1>they'll go get another safety for there's another tight end.

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, So I think where we should

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>start with that. There are two positions. I think we

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 1>should start with defensive tackle in cornerback because we know

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 1>they're going to have more numbers than the locks that

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>we have in We're just we're good with the O line.

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 1>We don't need to You didn't even mention. Honest, I'll

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>do it for you real quick. We don't need to

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.320
<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time. The injury to Marcus Martin

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>made this thing really easy. You got your five, Cam Flemings,

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you're six, Joe Looney's your seven. Uh, And then you're

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>probably talking about Chaz Green and Kadeem Edwards battling it

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>out to prove that they belong and maybe you add

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>a veteran in place of one of those guys if

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:36.919
<v Speaker 1>you don't feel good about it. And the only question

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>that you would throw out there is do you feel

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with the idea that you're basically going to be

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 1>rolling with Joe Looney as your guy that can play

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>all three of those inside positions, are you good with that?

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>On game day seven? You have seven game day guys yep.

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And the eighth guy to me would be Kadeem Edwards, right,

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 1>he has been a better player than Chaz Green. Uh. Yeah,

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 1>And I do not. I'm just saying, I mean, I

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>gave I gave some to the thought of going with

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 1>nine there when Marcus Martin was still healthy, but it

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>just makes so much sense. Yeah, And you know, you

0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>fortify yourself with practice squad players if you have to.

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Nobody nobody. And it's very similar to a linebacker where

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>none of those young guys have really caught anyone's eye,

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>like Oh Campos and Bryce Jones, I mean, good offensive

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.719
<v Speaker 1>lineman probably don't want to sign here, you don't. I mean,

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and when I'm talking about undrafted guys like and they've

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>said that before, Like it's hard to convince offensive tackles

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and guards to come in here knowing that the deck's

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>going to be stacked against them to earn a spot.

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.800
<v Speaker 1>The one guy that might factor in here maybe his mama.

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Who's mama, Damien, Mama. I'm not I'm really not trying

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to be a jerk. I've not noticed him. One time

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I did. I did training, campplied. The other day we

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>did one on one pass rushing drills and he was

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>throwing people around. I thought he did pretty good. I

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 1>think he's gone into your mind and brain just because

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 1>he's always right after practice around with his girl, and

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>he's always there, and then in your mind, he starts

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 1>getting in your head. Mama, mamakayama. All right, So let's

0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>let's go to I think the two positions where we

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like they'll have more than what we had in

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the lock, and let's narrow it down. Let's start with cornerback.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>We have Mark quiz White, Tavarius Award, Duke Thomas cam Kelly.

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Of those guys, I think we said we'd get to

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>five or six, we only have four locks. Which of

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 1>those guys do you think make the team? Sorry? Are

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:37.359
<v Speaker 1>we at forty six players now? Now we're at forty three.

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>We added one for the additional offensive linement. Okay, so

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>we're now at forty three. So you've got ten players

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that weren't in the locks that are gonna make this team. Yes,

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that seems it seems like that that would be too many.

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 1>But okay, well remember defensive tackle. We only got one

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 1>right now, Okay, so cornerback cornerback. So you got Mark,

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Quiz White, various Award, Duke Thomas, and Cam Kelly. You

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>can throw in of an Alumba if you want to,

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and talk about him as well. I think there's only

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>a spot for one of those guys. I take Ward,

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:07.800
<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna go with five, I would go with

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>I would go with Ward as well. He has been

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the most aggressive one, and that's the kind of player

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you won on the defense, someone that is aggressive and

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>is not scared to go for it. I want six.

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll take Duke and Ward. But that's just me. How

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna How are you playing this game? Derek? Uh?

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.320
<v Speaker 1>You be the tiebreaker. Honestly, I go with Dave on this.

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I think you take six corners because I

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna live a light at safety. Okay, um,

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And so I go with Ward as well, and I

0:48:35.680 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 1>think Duke Thomas. I'm kind of torn a little bit

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 1>on White and Thomas. I think one of the two

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>of those guys, um, and I'm not really certain how

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>they evaluate them. And I think both of them will

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Sunday evaluated. They evaluated, But what else can you do?

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.720
<v Speaker 1>And and Duke Thomas returns kickoffs, he's your primary kickoff

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>return guy right now. So uh, mark Us White would

0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:56.439
<v Speaker 1>not be doing that at all? Um, So yeah, I would,

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I would think. So let's let's go with let's go

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 1>with two more? Yeah? Yeah, oh, with two Given the

0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:03.239
<v Speaker 1>fact that if you're looking at the roster and the

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.719
<v Speaker 1>safeties of we have right now, then yeah, you let's

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:08.799
<v Speaker 1>add in corner Okay, So are we gonna If we're

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:10.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna do that and we're gonna go with six cornerbacks,

0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 1>do you feel like we stick with just three safeties

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 1>or do you think you need to add an additional

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 1>one from Jamal Showers McQueston huff or Tyree Robinson. We're

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:23.560
<v Speaker 1>adding a player. You wouldn't need a body Tyree Robinson

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 1>until he's the guy that makes the team until Saturday

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>or Sunday. Don't pop the champagne just yet. Don't go

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 1>out and buy a house. Don't buy a house, all right,

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>just get an apartment for now. All right, let's go

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.799
<v Speaker 1>on the linebackers. We had two guys that were left

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>over that we were considering justin march Lillard and Chris Covington.

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you take any more than the five you have?

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>And if so, which one? Given me? Covington? But I

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.840
<v Speaker 1>know that for the purposes, I feel we're gonna disagree

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:52.879
<v Speaker 1>on some things. But I'll take march Lillard. I'm going

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 1>seven linebackers, but I'll deal with six, and I'll take JML.

0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>All right, amber they're pretty similar as far as what

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I've seen so far. No one that really like stands out.

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>But I would say Chris Covington just because I don't know,

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>just a feeling. It's it's a Rico type thing for me.

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he started off college playing quarterback. He's developed

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>his body, he's developed, he getting into that that role

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 1>of being a linebacker. He showed enough on tape the

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years to be an NFL worthy player

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to be drafted. So I think I think they are.

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 1>That's the guy they liked too, Yeah, they liked him.

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I think both. Okay, keep them both, all right, So

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 1>let's tell you what. Let's do this. Let's hold that,

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:40.839
<v Speaker 1>and let's say that right now they're at forty seven

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 1>or forty eight. Let's depend on whether they keep one

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 1>or two and see if we get to a point,

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>but we have to make a decision on that. We

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>may have enough room to be able to put them

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 1>both there right right, all right, So defensive end we

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 1>have the five. Do you think Colney Eye or Charles

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Tapper get considered into this mix and you keep us six?

0:50:56.680 --> 0:51:00.799
<v Speaker 1>H think they both go? I really like Honestly, I've

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>been focusing on the edge dreshers so much, but we

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 1>had this defensive tackle conversation and I liked what we

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>were saying. So I want to hold on to a

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 1>couple of those guys. Good, So let's move to defensive

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 1>tackle then, I do I do think they're gonna try

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.320
<v Speaker 1>to keep going eily because they're stubborn. They like a

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>player they like three years ago in the draft. They

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:22.479
<v Speaker 1>still like them. Um me, they'll I think they'll figure

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 1>out out a spot for him. Okay, um let's talk

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>about go ahead. Okay, so let's go to defensive tackle.

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 1>We have to add some defensive tackles on right now.

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 1>So you got your Hardward Antoine Woods, Brian Price, Dayton Jones. Um,

0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of, I think from the standpoint and discussion,

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.959
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of uh put put aside guys like Richard

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 1>ash Lewis Neil for by the time being, we agree

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 1>with that. Yeah, okay, so of those four, how many

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and which ones do you keep? I think you keep

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 1>three of the four, okay, and if so, Malik plus

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>another three, so you're gonna keep four. Yeah. The three

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>that I would pick from that group would be Woods,

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>um Ward and Jones. Yeah. Oh, I know it's tough.

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Brian Bryce has do you think if you don't keep

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Ward then you don't really have another guy who can

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 1>play the three? Well? Like, that's what But the three

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>is the part. I think the three is the part

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 1>where you could slide one of these defensive ends down

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Cree technique. That's where you you feel pretty good about

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:29.919
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys going down to the three technique. Yeah,

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>if necessary. The one technique is the issue, and Brian

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Price to me is your he is a Him and

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Malik are the guys that play one technique can play

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:41.319
<v Speaker 1>it well. Antoine Woods could as well if the team.

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>If War makes the team, I think he's the guy

0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 1>that cut in week five. If who I'm sorry, I

0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 1>got you. I think he's your David Irving cut. Maybe

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I think now like you guys have said, everything always

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:54.359
<v Speaker 1>works out, you everything. So how many do we think

0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 1>they're keeping? Nine? Ten? Five? And we got all right,

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna do five ends? I don't. I

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>think I agree with Nick on the Coney Eily thing.

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know how you do it. So I'm

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of waiting to see if I have a spot left.

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:09.399
<v Speaker 1>But yes, right now we got five ends, and then

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you presume take four defensive tackles. Let's not forget too

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:15.359
<v Speaker 1>that that you know, Cowboys signed Cony Eily. They they

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know if doren To Armstrong can be ready to play.

0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:19.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't think they've probably signed him before

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the draft. Um. And then also, I mean, there's no

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 1>way you could have ever assumed that Randy Gregory was

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:28.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna factor into anything. And if they were, they were,

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:30.719
<v Speaker 1>they would have been really dumb to say, well, we

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 1>got him, so we won't do this or this or this.

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't. You don't play that game. So uh,

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 1>this is a good problem to have. And and because

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:40.239
<v Speaker 1>now Gregory's back in the mix, he's gonna squeeze somebody out.

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:44.240
<v Speaker 1>And and then the play of Antoine Woods and Brian

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Price and Dayton Jones is probably gonna squeeze out Cony Eily. Actually,

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 1>for the time being, I'll say MALIEK. Collins, Dayton Jones,

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Jihad Ward and Antoine Woods. I kind of I don't

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:58.399
<v Speaker 1>really believe that Brian Price isn't gonna be on this team.

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't either, But but Woods, that's what you know.

0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:05.400
<v Speaker 1>You have him there because you don't expect Antoine Woods

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 1>to do what he did. But when he does, you

0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:09.359
<v Speaker 1>take out the guy that's been in the league three

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 1>or four years for the young guy that's promising. Yeah, honestly,

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think and this is just my opinion, I

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 1>don't think gihad Ward really Dayton Jones either. I don't

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>think either one of them have been better than Price.

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 1>The Woods out here at training camp. Now. Of course,

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:24.879
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't matter as much all the time because they're

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 1>also going up against different guys. You know, looked pretty

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 1>nice in the preseason game. He did. He did. But

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess from that standpoint, I look at it and

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I say, I think I think Malik obviously, and then

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I think Woods, Price, and I think I'll probably go

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:43.239
<v Speaker 1>with Jones for sure. I think I think Gihadward is

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the guy I will probably have out on that. Yeah,

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:49.320
<v Speaker 1>but I would not be surprised if they say, screw

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the numbers, we're going to take all five. That wouldn't

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 1>shock me, just because there's a position where they could

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of just again if you had they decided they

0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.239
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go with end. It's not the worst thing

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:01.839
<v Speaker 1>in the world. A defense and on the defensive line. Yeah,

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's go on to a quarterback. Mike white

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>In out in in, Yeah, I'll come in. I'll come

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:13.279
<v Speaker 1>on here and I'll eat all the crow you want

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:15.320
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't make this team. But I don't understand

0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 1>how you don't. I think you can't go along everywhere.

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.320
<v Speaker 1>And this is a position where it's a convenience position.

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.759
<v Speaker 1>It's not necessarily because you have to have him on

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 1>this team. So I kind of believe they may opt

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 1>to just go with two and hope that they can

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 1>get him to the practice squad, which I don't think

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 1>is is beyond the scope. Like I think they could

0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:33.279
<v Speaker 1>probably get him to the practice squad. It's not beyond

0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 1>the scope. I just fourth round picks don't get cut

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 1>very often. I know he's a fifth, but he's a quarterback,

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 1>don't I'd be surprised. Yeah, all right, let's go on

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 1>a running back, Darius Jackson. Can you fit him in? No? No,

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:48.160
<v Speaker 1>nor Fortunately, wide receivers, you're gonna have to get one

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:51.799
<v Speaker 1>or two more Lanceloor, Noah Brown, Deontay Thompson. How many

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 1>more do you get? And who are they? How many

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:57.319
<v Speaker 1>more spots do we have? Yep, you're right now, you're

0:55:57.400 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>at for sure, you're at forty eight. I would love

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry, you're at fifty two.

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a big difference yet one receivers. I would love

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to keep seven receivers for a variety of reasons. But

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I had correct, that's fifty one. I'm sorry, I'm there.

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 1>You go, well, we haven't hit the tight end position.

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 1>And it also depends if you're if Mike We didn't really,

0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you guys are all greening, Mike White's

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 1>in you actually fifty at fifty two, did we decide

0:56:27.480 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 1>we were keeping four tight ends already? No, we had

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 1>not decided that that's that's gonna be I think that's

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna be it right there is? What what are you

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:37.239
<v Speaker 1>doing at tight end? Or you go you're comfortable with three.

0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna carry Rico. You're gonna add a veteran tight end?

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? And if so, I don't know

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:44.799
<v Speaker 1>how you keep seven receivers if you're keeping four tight

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:46.840
<v Speaker 1>ends unless you're willing think you gotta go six. I

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 1>gotta go six exactly, and that that gets you at

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that point. Then you're at fifty three and you haven't

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about the Titans. So you're assuming at that point

0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Rico's out. Yeah, yeah, which I don't know that. I'm

0:56:57.680 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 1>just I don't think you can. You can't have your

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:02.879
<v Speaker 1>cake and eat it like you gotta. Right. It's also why,

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:05.680
<v Speaker 1>which is also why I think quarterback is the position

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 1>where you go short, find me a fifth quarterback next year? Yeah,

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree, you can go back and get another. See

0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll take the counter argument and say, I'm not gonna

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 1>let somebody else take a quarterback that I feel good about,

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 1>just because this seventh receiver that I like, but who

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>won't dress. That's also the question do you still feel

0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>good about him? Right? I mean you you felt good

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 1>on draft day, You've seen a whole camp, do you

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 1>still feel I'm not worried about a fifth round about

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback because I mean, yeah, I think they took

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a flyer, they had a higher grade on him. But

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not I wouldn't be worried about cutting

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>a fifth round quarterback knowing that I have a starter

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 1>who's twenty four. I have a backup twenty three. I'm

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 1>okay with that. That's my point, Like, you're still developing

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 1>your starter in your backup, so I don't think it's

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:48.240
<v Speaker 1>a situation. You got to be thinking about the future.

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:50.360
<v Speaker 1>You're thinking about it. He's got three games to prove

0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>your wrong and he and he might. Why why'd you

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 1>even draft him then? Just just to see if Cooper

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Rush was a flash in the pan and maybe this

0:57:57.440 --> 0:57:59.560
<v Speaker 1>guy's going to be better and they still they still

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 1>might developed into that way. It's early. I think you're

0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:04.960
<v Speaker 1>okay with a young quarterback. I think you're okay with

0:58:05.080 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 1>two there. All right, we will be handing these over

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to the Cowboys brass and we'll see what they think

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 1>about it. So we settled on six receivers. We settled

0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>on six receivers. You got to tell me who it

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>would be Lance right now, But we got a lot

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of time left in the preseason. Noah Brown's still got

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:21.440
<v Speaker 1>time to make a case. You got you got the

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:23.240
<v Speaker 1>guy that's done the most out here in Lance. You

0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>got the guy that's the fastest in Thompson. You got

0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the guy that's the biggest with in Noah Brown. That's

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 1>a good battle there. Thompson worked with Sean Jay Lal

0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and Buffalo too. That counts for something. We will have

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:35.000
<v Speaker 1>more on this on Monday. We'll talk a little bit

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:37.120
<v Speaker 1>more about this and wrap up training camp on Monday.

0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 1>We'll do a lot of questions and give you guys

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:41.880
<v Speaker 1>a good synopsis of what has happened over these three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you taking time with us in this entire

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 1>training camp out here Oxna, California. We will be back

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