1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks the Super Bowl with Daniel Jeremiah, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and Rhett Lewis. What's Up? Everybody? Welcome to 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks, presented by Castro Ledge, DJ Bucky Rett. 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Back with you here for a takeaway podcast slash video show. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: What's up fellas? How were doing? Man, We're good. We 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: had a great night of football. Super Bowl fifty five 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: was one of the best Super Bowls that I have seen. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Just from a technical standpoint. It may not have lived 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: up to what everyone else wanted to see with the fireworks, 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: but I think it was one of the best chess 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: matches that I've seen with the defensive coordinator and top 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: bowls taking on Andy Read and every the enemy and 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: this high powered can the Chiefs offense. Yeah, I mean 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: it is the best plan and best execution of a 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: plan defensively we've seen against Patrick Mahomes and his career 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: as a starter. I mean points and it's as simple 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: as that. And it comes on the biggest stage in 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. No better time for it. Uh. So many 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: reasons to celebrate the Buccaneers tonight today, and I know 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna do that here in the next few minutes. Yeah, 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: we've got five takeaways we're gonna get to from the 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Also, Buck had a chance to sit down 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Candarius Tony, one of the more explosive players in the 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: upcoming draft, a wide receiver out of the University of Florida, 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: had a chance to visit with him down there at 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: the Reese's Senior Bowl. So we'll have that interview as well. 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: But let's get things kicked off here, guys. With this 28 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, which was really pretty lopsided, and the first 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: takeaway from me the Buck just superior in the trenches 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: just five minutes remaining, but Mahomes is just hammered by 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 1: Dominican Sue. Yeah, it was not close in this game, 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: and it really was a result of what the line 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: of scrimmage look like. And we can we can evaluate 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: these games in the run up and we do it 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: every year and you look at this, that or the other. 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: It's blocking and tackling, right, I mean, that's that's what 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: football has always been. It's what it will always be. 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: And I just thought Tampa was much better in the 39 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: trenches when you look at them defensively. You heard Sue 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: on the sack there. You had Sue and Vita Via 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: both kind of moving around on that front, getting a 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: lot of push, pushing that pocket. Then you had the 43 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: immediate wins with Shack Barrett Jpp on the edge just 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: winning right now and creating pressure on Patrick Mahomes. And 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: then what happens when you create that pressure, Then you 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: get the imagined pressure where Mahomes is not on time, 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: He bailed out of a couple of the clean pockets 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: that he did have. He just never got comfortable back there. 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Then you flip it over the other side and that 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean you look at at their the 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: way they're able to run the football, and you look 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: at the one on ones up front the line of scrimmage, 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: a lot of Tristan Worth's moving around. Uh, Frank Clark 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: there at the line of scrimmage. You saw Ali Mark 55 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: pett on the long touchdown run to four net, pull 56 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: out and show his athleticism. I just thought, talent wise, Buck, 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: when you looked at these two teams in the trenches 58 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: in this contest, it wasn't close. No, it wasn't close. DJ. 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: The playoff football, big time football is really big boy football, 60 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: meaning the big determine who wins games, and we talked 61 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: about it, but we don't really give enough. I may 62 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: attention to the offense and defensive line play, but in 63 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: this game, what we saw the tam Bay Buccaneers defensive 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: lot absolutely control the game. Jason p R, Paul Shack Burried, 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue Vita Villa. They did whatever they wanted 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: to do at the line of scrimmage and they made 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: life miserable for Patrick Mahomes. On the offense, they were 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: able to run the football, they moved bodies, they move 69 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: the Can City Chiefs off the line, they imposed their 70 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: will and in the trenches they were able to dominate. 71 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: And we would go back and we talked about this 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: this game for the last hundred years. If you dominate 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: the trenches more times than not, you win. The tam 74 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers just provided another example of why big boys 75 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: win down in these big games. I think oftentimes we 76 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: talk about a game of this magnitude and we get 77 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: two weeks to do it, like we do for the 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So many of these matchups that we say, man, 79 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: these are gonna be so big, end up. You know, 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: maybe not mattering as much, but I mean I think 81 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: all three of us realized that the matchup of this game. 82 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be those tackles for the Kansas City Chiefs 83 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: on offense trying to slow down and matchup with the 84 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: rush of the Tampa Bay Bucks. And that was the 85 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: biggest matchup of this game. You have to think about 86 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: the injury to Eric Fisher. You know, it infected three spots. Yes, 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: it affected the left tackle, but it affected the right 88 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: tackle because Rimmers moved from right to left and affected 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: the the you know, the right guard because you had 90 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: to get Wiz new Ski in for Wiley who moved 91 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: over the right tackle from right guard to replace Rammers. 92 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: It was replacing Fisher. I mean, this was a depleted 93 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: Chief's offensive line. It's not an excuse. These are all 94 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: NFL players, but you know it was clear that the 95 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: Bucks had that edge and they played like it and 96 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: executed like it on Sunday. And you know, if we're 97 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: talking about the offensive line in the trenches as well 98 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: for the Bucks winning, I mean, you know, we're talking 99 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: about top right tackles in all the NFL. It's not 100 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: gonna take too long to mention Tristan Worn. Yeah, he's 101 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. Really a great year, a great class of 102 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: offensive tackles in last year's draft, and Tristan Worst was 103 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: the best of that of that bunch. And we're gonna 104 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: see another influx of talent at the position this year 105 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: because if you watch this game, you better load up 106 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: on the trenches. That's uh, that's pretty obvious. We got here, Buck. 107 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: What's the takeaway number two? You know, my second takeaway 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: is there's no sense things too much talent. Here's the 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: staff out of the gun play actually fake pastor prokowski. 110 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna score a touchdown, touchdown Tampa Bay. Holy Gronkopoly. 111 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: He brings the record. He's got his twenty three touchdown 112 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: of the post season from Tom Brady Brady to grand 113 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Kowsky for the twenty third time of the post season. 114 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: You know, you know, DJ, we always talk about this, 115 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: and it's like, OHLD coach talked about it's not the 116 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: xs and ohs, it's the Jimmy's and Jones and the 117 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: jo and and and I think what we're seeing now 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: more than ever, he take scheme out of it. My 119 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: job as a team build is to make sure that 120 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: I bring as much talent as I possibly can bring 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 1: to the team, because what happens is your talent can 122 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: overwhelm the opponent. When I look at the Tampa Bay 123 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: Buccaneers on offense, they wind't got Rob Gronkowski, they wouldn't 124 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: got Antonio Brown, they windn't got Leonard for a net. 125 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: And we could say that they didn't even need those 126 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: guys because this team was loaded already with all Stars 127 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: and Pro Bowls and Chris Godwin Mike Evans were like, 128 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: oh J Howard and Cameron Brake. But it didn't stop 129 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers for adding pieces to the puzzle. And when 130 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: you think about who they eventually we're going to have 131 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: to knock off in the Super Bowl, they wanted to 132 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: be prepared to win us shootout against the Kansas City Chief, 133 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: the highest most explosive office in football. You have to 134 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: continue to add ammunition to the arsenal. They did that 135 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: and because of that, that's why they were able to win. Yeah, 136 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: in DJ and we talked about it on the aftermath 137 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: production meeting, you better have some speed, right, and the 138 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 1: Bucks have gone about it in a lot of different ways. 139 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: On the back end, they just kept shooting their shot, 140 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: trying to get the right dbs to be an effective 141 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: secondary felt like they found that mixed, you know this year, 142 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: adding it's on windfield. And then you go back and 143 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: you take a Devin White, you know, a linebacker last 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: year at a position that's maybe a little bit more 145 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: marginalized than others on the defensive side of the ball. 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: And as you're looking at team building anyway, and man 147 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: was his feed on display. You'll see that on the 148 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: aftermath on NFL Network at three o'clock Eastern time later today, 149 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: DJ with one of your exos. So, yeah, I thought 150 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: the Bucks did a great job assembling a talented roster. Yeah, 151 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: and you touched on a little bit there, Red, But 152 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: I think in personnel sometimes we can have the positions 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: in their in their hierarchy, right, And we talked about, well, 154 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: you can't take you know, you can't take a running 155 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: back in the first round. That's not smart. You can't 156 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: take a wide receiver early because you can find wide 157 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: receivers anywhere, you know, off the ball. Linebackers. If you're 158 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: gonna take a linebacker in the top ten, he's got 159 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: to be able to rush the quarterback, you know, run 160 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: stuffing defensive tackles. Those guys are those are dinosaurs. They 161 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: don't really matter anymore. But I think Jason Light and 162 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: the Bucks were smart and that they said these are 163 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: premier players. So I'm not going to I'm not going 164 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: to take a lesser player at corner or edge rusher 165 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: in the draft and bypass what I think is an 166 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: elite premier player at linebacker, at wide receiver, or at 167 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. I think that was smart, and I think, 168 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, Buck, we can talk about I do believe 169 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: there's an importance of position, like we can talk about 170 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: tackles and edge rushers and corners and quarterbacks obviously, but 171 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: that's for when things are close. When when you have 172 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: Devin White, who's ranked up here, you do not pass 173 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: Devon White to take maybe a corner who you have 174 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: ranked down there, Right, DJ, I think this is a 175 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: great lesson for all of us. A reminder man, if 176 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: you pick talented players, you have a really talented team. 177 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: And even though we get pigeon holed into thinking about 178 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: certain positions having more value than others, I think it's 179 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: really simple. If we were going out to the park 180 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: and Devon White is out there and he's running around, 181 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: he looks better than everybody else. I'll want Tom on 182 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: my team. And so Jason Light deserves credit because we 183 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: will talk about it and nausea. Look at the collection 184 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: of talent, the number of first round picks that they 185 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: have on this team. You and I had a call 186 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: off air where you just talked about the number ones 187 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: that are on this team. Man, when you start bringing 188 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: in these blue chip players, ultimately you can have a 189 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: blue chip team if the pieces of the puzzle fit 190 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: together correctly. They fit and I just think this was 191 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: an example of what you can do when you have 192 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: a lot of talent and guys. That leads me right 193 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: into my takeaway from this game. Our third takeaway here 194 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: following Super Bowl fifty five, which was the Bucks pursuit 195 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: of greatness at all levels in that organization paid off 196 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: on something and so like, I'm gonna take it. You know, look, 197 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: I think you got also gotta start at the ownership level, 198 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: because you know, there were some lean years during Jason 199 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Light's tenure as general manager, through the Lovey Smith thera, 200 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: the dirt Cutter era, and then you know, giving them 201 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: the patients, giving him the patients to build this team 202 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: the right way, and then finally once he felt like 203 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: he got close, they were able to make these last 204 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: few moves, and that's where they deserve a ton of credit, right, 205 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: and they make they they say, look, we've got some 206 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: talent here. We need the field general in the elite 207 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: player at the quarterback position. It did not work with 208 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. Let's recognize that that was not the play 209 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: for us, and it's not the play moving forward. Let's 210 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: go find a guy that is. Of course, Tom Brady 211 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: becomes available. Players like that never become available. We get it. 212 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: That's the once in a lifetime kind of thing. But 213 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: they made it happen, right, They made it happen. And 214 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: then once they got Brady, they continued that pursuit of 215 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: greatness that it was going to require to find themselves 216 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: on the ultimate stage. Antonio Brown, uh, you know later 217 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: in the season as a pick up Leonard Fournett after 218 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: getting waived by the by the Jaguars. It all paid 219 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: off on that night. And then again we talked about 220 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, I've talked about it a couple of times. 221 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, they swung and missed on a few dbs 222 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: in the last five or six years in the draft, 223 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: but man, they kept swinging. Sean Murphy Bunting paid off. 224 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield junior this past year as a rookie paid 225 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: off in a huge way. And uh, and so I 226 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: just I think that they deserve a lot of credit 227 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: in that that front office, that evaluation, Uh, those evaluators 228 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: up there and the personnel guys a ton of credit there. 229 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: And how about Bruce Arians, you know, coming back from 230 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: retirement to continue his pursuit doesn't matter. You know, how 231 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: long it takes you to get that opportunity to be 232 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: a head coach in the Super Bowl, But what do 233 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: you do once you're there? But we saw it, and 234 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: we saw it, and we saw the way he's empowered 235 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: other coaches and coordinators on his staff. Um. And so 236 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: that pursuit of greatness, regardless of what that staff looks like, 237 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: I thought, is to be absolutely commended from Bruce Arians. 238 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: And then you know from the players and Tom Brady. 239 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: His pursuit of greatness is documented. But I think he 240 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: is that player that raises everyone else's quest for greatness 241 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: around him, and we saw that this year as well. 242 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: So I just thought that that that core, that greatness, 243 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: that pursuit was on full display on Super Bowl. Submit. 244 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: You know, Redy, I want to talk about Tom Brady. 245 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: What Tom Brady brought. I know a lot of people 246 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: would talk about his skills. I think the best thing 247 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: that he brought was a winning pedigree and how to 248 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: do it because we saw this Tampa Bay team changed 249 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: from the beginning of the season to the end of 250 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: the season. And I think the one thing that we 251 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: can recognize, I believe the Tampa Bay Buccaneers paid more 252 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: attention to detail and were a more disciplined bunch because 253 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: of Tom Brady and what he may have learned from 254 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: his time in New England, what he practices in his 255 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: personal life when it comes to the way that he 256 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: develops his own skills. This team was more button up, 257 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: They were more detailed, and that, combined with the talent, 258 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: enabled him to be champions. I think his biggest contribution 259 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: is teaching them how to win, more so than how 260 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: he played. And I was thinking of a couple of teams. Guys, uh, 261 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: I was saying, first of all about this US team. Right, 262 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: So you you have Jamis Winston last year through for 263 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: five thousand yards. Obviously the turnovers were sky high, but 264 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: you could have convinced yourself, look, this guy's number one 265 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: overall pick. We invested in him through for five thousand yards. 266 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good we can take from this, 267 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: but there was no satisfaction with that. The results weren't 268 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: where they wanted them to be. So they said, we've 269 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: got to get better and look at what an upgrade 270 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: at the most important position and sports can mean for 271 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: your franchise. I think it fits perfectly into what we've 272 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: seen with the Rams. Right the Rams wasn't the Super 273 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: Bowl not long ago, but that wasn't good enough for them, 274 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: uh to come up short. So they felt like they 275 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: had to upgrade that position. Let's go, let's be aggressive, 276 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Let's make it happen. Somebody's gonna try. Multiple teams are 277 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: gonna try with Deshaun Watson and say this is we 278 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: can't overpay. If we can get better at that position, 279 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: you can't overpay, So let's make a run for it here. Um. 280 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: I look at teams around the league, Buck, and I 281 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: think of who's gonna be, you know, much better at 282 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: quarterback next year. I think the Rams are gonna be 283 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: better with Stafford. I think, obviously the Jags are going 284 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: to be better having a Trevor Lawrence, a younger player 285 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: than what they played with last year. But when I'm 286 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: going through all the list of teams. I don't know 287 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: there's a team that that's gonna be more improved than 288 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Just just getting Dak Prescott back. What 289 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: that can mean? So do when you see teams now 290 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: trying to follow this Buck's approach, which is man for 291 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, screw it, We're going all in. Let's let's 292 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: be aggressive. Let's try and build up the pieces around here. 293 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: Uh if it costs draft picks and it costs free 294 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: agent money and we can figure out the salary cap later. Um. 295 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: But I just love the overall aggressive approach. Coming from 296 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: a Padre fan who saw our team be very aggressive 297 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: in the off season, I love it, man, I love 298 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: it when sports look this way, you know, DJ I mean, 299 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: since we're talking about baseball, I love it just seeing 300 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: what the Dodgers continue to do. Yeah, and talent upon talent, 301 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: because that's how you win. I think both of these 302 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks because I want to make sure that we talk 303 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: about Patrick Mahomes and what he has also forced everyone 304 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: else in the league to do. Many of us thought 305 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: that this would be a coination party for the Kansas 306 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: City Chiefs and what they did and how you need 307 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: to get an upgraded quarterback to deal with Patrick Mahomes. 308 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing the most important position in football. 309 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: Everyone is chasing one of those golden goose, someone who 310 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: can do the different stuff, that extra stuff, Patrick Mahomes, 311 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. If you don't have a special player at 312 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: that position, you need to spend every expense to make 313 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: sure you get one, because that's the only way you're 314 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: gonna win over the next ten and fifteen years. Because 315 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are absolutely loaded, no doubt, It's very true. Here, 316 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: let's let's keep it going here. It's the number four 317 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: on the takeaway list, and that was at the Kansas 318 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: City offensive game plan was flawed. Um you know, I 319 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: tweeted out a stat It was I think the snaps 320 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: according to the next Gen stats, they were in five 321 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: man protection. Now there's some dispute about that when you're 322 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: when you're you know, check release in the back or 323 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: you're chipping with a tight end. So they say they 324 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: gave those guys a little bit of help, but not enough. Uh, 325 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: not enough at all. I was on a text thread 326 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: yesterday during the game with two NFL defensive coordinators are like, look, 327 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: they didn't adjust. They never adjusted that. You know, mix 328 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: in some six or seven man protection for crying out loud, 329 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: run the football. They're gonna play with two high safeties 330 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: as much as Tampa did. They're daring you to run 331 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: the football. I know you've got backups in there. But 332 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: when you look at it, when they did run the ball, 333 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: they had success. They just they just didn't do it. 334 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: And I thought it was the same game plan. Uh, 335 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, Buck, we were doing that game, the first 336 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: game Buffalo in the city. We're doing that one for Amazon, 337 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs were like, hey, Andy Reading Company, very patient, 338 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: they want to play that. We're just gonna We're just 339 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna milk it. We'll run the ball right now on 340 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: the field, and eventually that's gonna be lead the victory. 341 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: It might not be the sextiest, might not be the 342 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: most exciting, but if you're gonna play in that, look, 343 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: that's what we have to do. And I thought there 344 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: was some stubbornness with the Chiefs in this game, you know, DJ. 345 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: So here here's the thing where I'm conflicted, right, because 346 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: you're the Kansas City Chiefs. You come in with Patrick Mahomes. 347 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: You won out of twenty six out of twenty seven. 348 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: There's an arrogance where you walk into the stadium and say, man, 349 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: we're just gonna do what we do. This is what 350 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: we do. We're Mary of her Bear. We're throwing the 351 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: cutter and that's all we're throwing because it's been very successful. Now, 352 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: the problem is they started knocking the cut her out 353 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: and you didn't go to anything else. And I think 354 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: this is going to be a defining moment for the 355 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, much like the Super Bowl that we 356 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: saw with the Patriots and the Rams. Altered everything for 357 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: the Rams because the Rams offense hasn't been the same 358 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: since they saw that Patriots defense and the world took 359 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: a look at that blueprint and started copying it. What 360 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: will the Kansas City Chiefs do from here? When everyone 361 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: everybody is gonna put two safeties in the parking lot 362 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: and they're gonna say, we don't think you're patient enough 363 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: to beat us with the running game and the Deacon 364 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: duct approach. This will be an off season where the 365 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs have to add something to what they 366 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: do because everyone is going to see how teams have 367 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: slowed them down and and copy it and still yeah, 368 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: and I think, look, getting healthier on their offensive line 369 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: is going to help help a whole bunch. And you know, 370 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: being more committed to the run game, which I know 371 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna get into here in a little bit, Bucky. 372 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: But um, I think you guys are right. Um, I 373 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: think that there was And I don't wonner if it 374 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: was arrogance, but there was a certain confidence in your 375 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: game play, in your philosophy to win games this year, 376 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: and to win games as long as are Reid Patrick 377 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Mahomes have been together, and to overcome deficits, and this 378 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: is how we've done it in the past. This is 379 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: how we've done it well when you're facing a team 380 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: that's defending you. You know, I don't want to say 381 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: unlike any other team has, but as effectively as any 382 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: other team has, there was this. There was a too 383 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: slow of of a mind, of a thought process to 384 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: figure it out. And uh that certainly heard of this game. 385 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: And I'll get to you, Buck with your last take away. 386 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: And that's just to wrap this whole thing up. This 387 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: was not Todd Bowls did a wonderful job with somebody 388 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: with how they maneuvered some of their rush upfront. I 389 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: thought you know, corners and mixing and matching, but really 390 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: mostly bringing four guys play rush and four playing too 391 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: high against this team is not something that hasn't been 392 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: done before. We've seen a lot of teams do it. 393 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: We mentioned Buffalo Um, but in in Kansas City's defense, 394 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: there's not I don't know there's another team with the 395 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: speed at the second level to be able to suck 396 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: up all that stuff underneath. So even when they did 397 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: take checkdowns, which would be twelve fifteen yard gains against 398 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: most teams, I mean, those two linebackers were sucking those 399 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: dudes up at the line of scrimmage, sometimes for tackles 400 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: for loss on some of those checkdowns. So they were 401 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: uniquely situated to get home with four have linebackers at 402 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: the second level that can really really run um and 403 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: just keep the ball in front of you on the 404 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: back end, so their their roster was constructed for this 405 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: game plan so that that would be the defense. Last thing, Buck, 406 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 1: before you get to your final takeaway, I would just 407 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: add here, going back and watching the tape, homes had 408 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: about three or four plays which should have been caught, 409 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: which would have made this a very competitive game, probably 410 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: the best complete pass in the Super Bowl history. Incredible. 411 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: That was incredible. But you had the one early to Kelsey, 412 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: you had one to Tyree Kill that should have been 413 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown that was dropped. And then that crazy one 414 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: where he was laid out horizontally that you're referencing there, 415 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: So um yeah, crazy, crazy crazy throws there from him. 416 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: All right, Buck, what's the final one? The running game 417 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: still matters. There's the schnapp run the ball to the 418 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: right of blond voice five, touch stop, tap my bay, 419 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: let it four and that takes it to the house 420 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: and the Bucks lead seven to nine. You know, DJ, 421 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: when we read when we think about the tamp Bay Buccaneers, 422 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: a lot of the attention naturally goes to Tom Brady. 423 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: But I think that really helped him the most in 424 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: the postseason was the emergence of the running game. Leonard 425 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: Frenette and Ronald Jones did a great job of balancing 426 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: out this offense. And when you look at this game 427 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: first three quarters, they ran on first down about fifty 428 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: percent of the time, and so at a time where 429 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: analytics tells you have to throw it and throw it 430 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: and throw it all over the yard, the Tampa Bay 431 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Buccaneers knew exactly who they were. They ran the full 432 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: all they controlled it. They shortened the game, and because 433 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: they were to run it, the complimentary play actually passing 434 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: game got going and they never put themselves in harm's way. 435 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: I just believe as we get down to it in 436 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: the last month, the running game always begins to increase 437 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: in priority. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers embraced it and it 438 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why they have the Super Bowls. Yeah, 439 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: and guys, I'll say this the only thing I'll say 440 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: about the Bucks running game, because we've talked about how 441 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: we didn't see enough of the run from the Chiefs. 442 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: But for the Bucks, Ronald Jones, I felt like became 443 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: a different player and a different type of weapon for 444 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: them once Leonard four net was utilized in the right way. 445 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, like you look at the first carry for 446 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: Ronald Jones in this game. He is shot out of 447 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: a cannon, no pun intended for thirteen yards. I mean 448 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: like he has a little bit more that one cut 449 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: quickness through the line than we see with for Netty. 450 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: They have some different styles there, and you know, while 451 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: they're well, it's not like big back, small back type 452 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: of thing man they have. They have a really good 453 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: one to punch in a nice change of pace when 454 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: when you know when either one of them uh institute 455 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: in there, that's a that is a nice running back duo. Yeah. 456 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: Three runs of ten plus yards in this game, as 457 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: Bucky mentioned, all on first down, first and ten. Um 458 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: just established the run, which is kind of old school, 459 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: but it worked in a big way in this ballgame. 460 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: I think it it kind of We finished up talking 461 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: about the running game mattering Um. We started off talking 462 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: about the Bucks being superior in the trenches. I think 463 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: when you boil it all down, that's what it was. 464 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: The more physical team, as is often the case when 465 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: you're getting these championship matchups, the more physical team won 466 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And hats off to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 467 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: All right, it's time for be Prepared, presented by Castrol 468 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: Edge and Buck. You had a chance at the Reesea's 469 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl to visit with cad Darius Tony, the talented 470 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver from the University of Florida I thought was 471 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: the highest rated player going into the Reesa's Senior Bowl, 472 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: had a fantastic week. You had a chance to catch 473 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: up with the talented Gator in First Town and then 474 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: some Tony still on the moot the turn by kicking 475 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: in to join the movies six podcasts. Man, we're so 476 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: excited to have on Florida standout wide receiver ka Darius Tony. 477 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm good. I'm good about you guys. Man, 478 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: it is all good. Just you know, and thinking about 479 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: your journey making it all the way from high school 480 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: to going through college to now you're in the midst 481 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: of the NFL draft process. What has it been like 482 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: for you? Uh, I's been kind of a crazy journey 483 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: to um really see that the work that I put 484 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: in really paying off and I'm getting opportunity that I 485 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: never received before. You know what I'm saying, recognition that 486 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I deserved. But I've never been a 487 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: brag guy. Always been a humble person. So it's like 488 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: it's kind of kind of meeks feelings. Yeah, I can. 489 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: I can understand that. Now you have an opportunity to 490 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: play on a big stage and you after Gators and 491 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: you guys have been known to produce like big time 492 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers. What was that experience like, particularly after Dan 493 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: Mullin got there, Uh, the experience was pretty cool, pretty neat. 494 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: Um just accepting the coaching and um, I guess embarking 495 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: on a new journey would accepting the new head coach. 496 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: You can say, um, because you know I started with 497 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: young Malcoin and that stuff, and the transition with muddling them, 498 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: the the culture that they brought in and uh, I 499 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: guess you could say the foot that they put forward. 500 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: It was it was kind of it was kind of 501 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: need experience to really be a part of, you know, 502 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: and everybody when they have an opportunity to watch you 503 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: play man, just so much juice, like so much explosiveness. 504 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Terrific in terms of like the way that you run 505 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: with the ball in your hands, like when you when 506 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: you think about your game, what is the best part 507 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: of the game. Um, unslassly playmaking? I feel like, um, 508 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: just getting the bottle of my hand just explosive this 509 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: and being able to create players when no one else 510 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: can or when we need them most. Honestly, the quarterback 511 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: trash backing up and froze Kirk an open receiver car 512 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: to a touchdown. You know, it's funny because you talked 513 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: about playmaking, it seems like the NFL is shifting to 514 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: more playmakers as opposed to just pure receivers. You're seeing 515 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: guys like Deepo, Samuel Brandon, I Yuck, guys that are 516 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: terrific for the ball in their hands. Who are some 517 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: of the guys in the NFL that you're patting your 518 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: game after. Uh, I say Camaro. Most people say Tyreek 519 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: Hill because of speed and his electric ability to make 520 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: plays and stuff. But I say America's it's a balancing 521 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: the way he's agile and in and out of cuts 522 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Like that's what that kind of 523 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: similar my games to him. See, I know it goes 524 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: deeper than just the way that Camara plays because I 525 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: know Kmar also dabbles in the music game. Uh, talk 526 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: a little bit about you because I know, I know 527 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: you get down, I know you have bars and all 528 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: the other stuff. Talk about talk about your passion for 529 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: music and how it's it's been a positive influence on 530 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: your life. Uh. Passion for music was always there, like 531 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: in out of this and just playing around with music, 532 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: but I started taking it like serious, like the past 533 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: couple of years to really like I gave you to say, 534 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: keeping nose clean or stay out of trouble whatever you 535 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: want to call it. Um, But I mean I feel 536 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: like it's another way to keep me balanced in a way, UM, 537 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: because I feel like if you have all your one basket, 538 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: you're never going always be successful through like stuff like that. Okay, 539 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: So so now we're gonna talk about you because we 540 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: always understand like what you can do as an athlete, 541 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: but we talked about this music thing. We've had a 542 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: handful of athletes that have cut albums, have been successful. 543 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: We've seen Shock back in the day, like that's that's 544 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: before you Shock. I think you might have had a 545 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: platinum album that that came out. We've seen Kobe, the 546 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: late Kobe Bryant dabbled in it. Right now, I think 547 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: Dean Lillard is the guy that's pretty hot in terms 548 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: in terms of doing it. And so if we could 549 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: think about where you would eventually like to stack up 550 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: as a musician, like like, are we trying to be 551 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: like a real legitimate respected ripers is just something that 552 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: you do for fun. Uh, basically I do it for fun. 553 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: But if if those come with it, I'm willing to 554 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: accept that. I'm not I'm not sure I'm not gonna 555 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: shot away from that there's there's nothing, there's nothing wrong 556 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: with that. I think the music ambitions are are terrific, 557 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: But obviously even the main thing, the main thing. You're here, 558 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: You're on this platform because you have an opportunity to 559 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: be a special player in the league. What are some 560 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: of the things that you're working on from the time 561 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: you finished up at Florida until we get to the 562 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: draft to make yourself a better player? Um? As I've 563 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: been trying to work on my route running ability. Um 564 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: I guess like you can say, like film habit um, 565 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: taking the coaching from the NFL coaching, like different things 566 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: I can work on, Like different things I can pick 567 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: up from those guys and take for Withney. Honestly, you know, 568 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: so the only thing that we're gonna have left along 569 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: the journey is you're gonna have your pro day and 570 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: those things. What would you like to show scouts when 571 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to get in front of them 572 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: one last time in your pro day? What would you 573 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: like to show off? I just want to get show 574 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: on what I'm what I'm made of, Like what what 575 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: I can all do? Honestly, like my vertical how fast 576 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: I can run? How fast I get in and out 577 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: of break how well my hands is what I focused 578 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: and uh that I'm a dog and if well man, 579 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: we appreciate the dog nature. And because when I watch 580 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: you play, you're such a relentless competitive I'm wishing you 581 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: the best of luck on your journey. Thanks so much 582 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: for joining to Move the sixth podcast. Thank you all right, Black, 583 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: What was your impression getting a chance to visit with him? 584 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, I really like him. I really like the kid, 585 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: and I think he's matured, uh the right way during 586 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: his time in Florida. Very competitive player and I think 587 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: you saw that competitiveness come out when we had a 588 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: chance to watch him at the Senior Bowl. I'm excited 589 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: to watch him as a pro because he's one of 590 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: the guys that has that stop star quickness, that explosive 591 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: acceleration that you see on vertical rouse. He can do 592 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: a lot. I think people looking for a catch and 593 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: run specialists, he's one of the best in the draft 594 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: this shoot. Yeah, he came into the week as my 595 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: highest rated player at the Reese's Senior Bowl. Receiver wise, 596 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: I have at Jamaar, Chase DeVante Smith, Jalen Waddle, then 597 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: can Darius Tony so Um as the fourth wide receiver 598 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: overall in the draft class. He dropped a couple of 599 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: balls in practice. Unfortunately I got a little bit nicked up, 600 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: couldn't play in the game. But man, the dynamic change 601 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: of direction to stop star quitness as you were talking about, 602 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: it's pretty elite there. There's some in terms of the 603 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: stop stop start stuff, a little Chad Johnson, which is 604 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: how violently he can get in and out. Yeah, it 605 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: is uncommon to find someone who can go that fast 606 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: and put the feet in the ground and get back 607 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: out and redirect. He has some special qualities. I would 608 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: love to see him get with a really creative offensive mind, 609 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: with a really good wide receiver coach, and really see 610 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: his game go from what I think is already pretty 611 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: good too great at the next level. Yeah, and I 612 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: could see him like somebody like Tyreek Hill who early 613 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: on in his career making that impact on special teams, 614 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: then growing and evolving as a receiver developing. I think 615 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: you could see the same thing with him. He didn't 616 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: have that type of top speed that Tyreek Hill has, 617 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: but he can make a big time impact on special 618 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: teams and as he's developing, flipping him a bubble screen, 619 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: putting him in the backfield, just getting the ball in 620 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: his hands as he continues to develop as a route runner. Yeah, 621 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: I think that's important and I think that's the way 622 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: of the world now right now, it's about how many 623 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: much is can we get our to our top targets, 624 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: our top playmakers on offense. Can we give them enough 625 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: volume where they can impact the game. And I think 626 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: he has that ability to be a high volume big 627 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: play artists. Yeah, no doubt. Well, there you have it. 628 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: That was be prepared presented by Castro Ledge. What was 629 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: a uh, it was a really sad weekend for all 630 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: of us at the NFL media group. Um, you know, 631 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: had the big run up to the Super Bowl and 632 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be the culmination of a really trying 633 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: year and a celebration, but we found out over the 634 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: weekend that we lost one of our brothers and Chris 635 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: west Length who has uh just been battling cancer for 636 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: quite some time and had overcome it for a while 637 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: and it came back in aggressive fashion, and um, you 638 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: guys know him. I'm sure most of our audience has 639 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: crossed over with the with the Around the NFL podcast 640 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: and there are there are, Buddy, we have kind of 641 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: a fake feud that we have a lot of fun with, 642 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: but there are there really are good are good close friends. 643 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: And you know, Rhett, I don't know, uh, I don't 644 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: know how how you found out, but I just when 645 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: when I when I received that phone call, I was 646 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: just in shock. Yeah, it's really the only way to 647 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: describe it. I can tell you this though, sitting here 648 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: in the podcast studio in uh in what was Chris's seat, 649 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: I feel a whole lot smarter sitting in this seat today. 650 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: UM better believe that. And you know, I wasn't as 651 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: close with Chriss as the guys who sat next to 652 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: him for hundreds of episodes in years here on the 653 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, And so I think it's like 654 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: even more meaningful that I was able to recognize and 655 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: easily see so many of the things that Chris loved. 656 00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: His love for the nuance of football, for the profession 657 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: of writing, um, and you know, most notably his love 658 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: for his friends and his family, certainly Lakisha, his wife 659 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: who met here at NFL Network, and their young son Link. 660 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: And I keep coming back to the word sharp um 661 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: because it's got this really this double meaning because Chris 662 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: was as sharp as they come, right if you followed 663 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: him on the Round the NFL podcast, if you followed 664 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: his work online for us at NFL dot com and 665 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: all of our digital mediums, like, he was as sharp 666 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: a football mind as was out there. And that was 667 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: easy for anyone to see. Um. He was sharp with 668 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: his wit uh and and his thinking on the spot. Um, 669 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: but it was always delivered with a smooth edge. And 670 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think about all of that him being 671 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: sharp on that side of the way we knew him 672 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: uh in diagnosing and discussing and dissecting football. And then 673 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: of course that's second only to the sharp pain that 674 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: his loss leaves all those whom he loved. So are 675 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: thoughts certainly with with his entire family, um after his passing. Sad, Yeah, 676 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: very sad, you know, because in this business, man, you 677 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: remember those people who are good to you, those people 678 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: who say great examples for you, and those that come 679 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: behind you. And I would like to say that Chris 680 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: Westling certainly did that for me. Having watched him up 681 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: close and from afar, you have a too mendice amount 682 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: of appreciation for the way that he went about his 683 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: business read. You talked about his embracing of the nuance 684 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: of football in the things that he has been able 685 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: to write, going really up under the hood to talk 686 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: about some of the history of the game and some 687 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: of the innovations of the game, and the way that 688 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: he was able to do those things. And then I 689 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: think about, you know, watching how he got along with 690 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: everybody being a part of the softball team and the 691 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: people that he brought together, and obviously his family, his 692 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: wife Lakisha and their young son Link and you know 693 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: what was ahead for them, And so a lot of 694 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: times during these moments like we're really really sad, but 695 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: I think it is the time to really celebrate all 696 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: of the good that West showed us and if we 697 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: can be better for it in terms of just treating 698 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: those around us nice, helping others, and just trying to 699 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: bring everybody together to make it a very inclusive process 700 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: as we go about walking through life. I think Chris 701 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: will smile upon us and we will be blessed for that. 702 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: A great man, a terrific person, and I think we 703 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: all are blessed to have had our time with him 704 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: while he was on deserve. Yeah, I think there's a 705 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: lot of things that we could use more of in 706 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 1: the world, and I think gentleness is one of them. 707 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: And I would use that word to describe West just 708 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: a general. He was just a gentleman. He really was. 709 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: And I have a couple of stories. You know, I 710 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: got to know West over the last several years, and 711 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: we became friends. We weren't nearly as close as his 712 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: as his buddies there and around the NFL and with 713 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: Erica and Colleen and and others, um, And we're thinking 714 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: and praying for all of them, as well as Lakisha 715 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: and Link during this time. But just a couple of 716 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: stories about my interactions with West. Just gonna tell you 717 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: a little bit about him. I would I would stay 718 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: up during Path to the Draft in previous years, before 719 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: all the home camp stuff started, I would stay up 720 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: in l A a a couple of nights a week. Um 721 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: And West kind of knew that I was doing that, 722 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: and so he asked, like, Hey, where do you Where 723 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: do you eat when you come up there? I said, 724 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: I usually just eat in the hotel like an old scout, 725 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: Like we just get the easy food. You get back 726 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: in your room and you watch tape. That's what you do, 727 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: and he's like, do you like hamburgers? And like, I 728 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: love hamburgers. Like there's a great hamburger place not far 729 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: from where you're staying. And I'm gonna mess up the 730 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: name of it, but I think it's Hanana Burger or whatever. 731 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: It's like a little dive bar. Uh. So he's like, 732 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: I'll meet you there. So he met me there. We 733 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: sat and had had a had a hamburger and sat 734 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,959 Speaker 1: out there and hung out for for the evening there 735 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: and we just talked football. We we just had It 736 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: was so much fun. He's so so passionate. You could 737 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: feel his passion through the podcast, you can feel it 738 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: through his writing, but just that that was a fun 739 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: night just getting a chance to talk ball with him, 740 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: and he's so easy to conversate with. Is. Everybody knows 741 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: that that was one of them and the other one 742 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: was Lakisha is a huge Cardinals fan, a huge St. 743 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals fan. So the Cardinals are gonna play the 744 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: Padres down in San Diego. My folks have had season 745 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: tickets and you can see the picture right there with 746 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: with our buddy Tara Deaker. She was there with them 747 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: and came down with them. I had a couple of 748 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: my kids with me, so we sat in some other seats. 749 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: But what met up It took this picture Um and 750 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: were I was joking with Les. I'm like, so it 751 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: was blistering hot day. I mean like we just got 752 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: fried and and the seats are right in the sun. 753 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, West, did you or you are 754 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: getting fried? The top of your head is fried. Um, 755 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: And He's like, I'm not even a cardinalsman, I'm a 756 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: Reds fan, like we said. So we started talking about 757 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: the Reds. The Potters weren't any good that year, but 758 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: he knew Lukisha loved the Cardinals. He's gonna make a 759 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: fun day of it. So they had a great trip, 760 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: uh down there at Petco watching the game, and we 761 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: talked about Eric Davis and Tony Gwynn and we had 762 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: we had a great conversation there. But Um, a sweetheart 763 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: of a man, Um, someone that is going to be missed. 764 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: To h to say it, I don't know another way 765 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: to say it, but West, we love you, We miss 766 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: you and Lakisha and link anything you guys need. The 767 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: line is very long of us who will be there 768 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: to help you. So we love you guys. Um, here's 769 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: a little bit more on our friend Chris Wesley. My 770 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansas, joined in build with heroes Mark Sessler, 771 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Greg Rosa doll with the pocket square. What 772 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: is up? Boys? Hey Dan? Hey Dan? Hey Dan? Hey Dan. 773 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: It is the game of both skill and valor, also 774 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: known as w is tuster in a big spot and 775 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: a ate three team on a six game when it 776 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: cheek look up to the live show success, the meet 777 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,479 Speaker 1: up even more of a success. You guys have sat 778 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: behind me or sat beside me for seven shows. You 779 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: sat beside me for a growing battle with cancer. Will 780 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: you stand beside me on the most important wine is blue? 781 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: Because we're having a baby bar. Something is always lost 782 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: in art or experience when you analyze it. Mark Twain 783 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: once he became a riverboat pilot and learned the technical 784 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: side of it, the Mississippi River was no longer beautiful 785 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: for him. If I was to hire a sportswriter, the 786 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: first question I was gonna ask him is how do 787 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: you reconcile the essential meaninglessness of sports? I mean, how 788 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: do you reconcile watching young men banging to each other 789 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: and try to advance and inflate a pigskin against Mark territory. 790 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you're doing. How do you reconcile 791 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: the importance of that? And I think it's like Shakespeare's 792 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: poems or Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. This is going above and beyond. 793 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: At its best, sports is look at what humans can do.